Front Wheel Drive Can Be More Fun
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2017
- Hello folks and Welcome. It's another short and sweet video but however an interesting one. It's a question that always occur in the motoring World topic. Front-wheel Drive and Rear-wheel Drive.
I try and explain why I prefer Front-wheel Drive most of the time especially for doing slides.
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grandma owned=clutch is dead
Never went over 4000 rpm=bad thing
Grandma owned=probably cant use manual properly
Cars need to be revved out! (Warm)
@@joonapuro8055 Exactly! people who claim revving is bad have no idea how cars work
Did you have to park it in a bush at the beginning? 😂
It’s was long grass....
JB CTR XD
i was too distracted by his forehead to notice this
@@Jackson-dg8wb haha
@@Jackson-dg8wb Lmao
This guy drifting his fwd without even touching the handbrake....phenomenal.
Not hard to do just need over 200hp
trail braking (weight to the front from barely braking) or lift-off oversteer (weight to the back from appropriate throttle release)
@@joebone3151 Actually since the front tires are gripped onto the ground and rolling it doesn't really matter what the horsepower is as long as you're in 1st gear
@@qcompressed1409 dude I can drive on the ice and snow using all gears any speed just gage you distance know your traction and boom your racing
@@joebone3151 my god 🤭
I'm 60 and could do crazy stuff with RWD, big block MOPARS, my son at 37 can drive hell out of FWD. Depends what you Learn in I Figure..
Randy Nixon depends. For me if I'm hooning a back road I love its fwd cause I can drive it like this guy can. If I'm on a tight track awd any day. But if it's long cornered track I'm good with rwd cause I can power slide through halfway OR of I get understeer I can just clutch kick and slide it through.
Ayy it's Smoke!
Anyways each type of powertrain does give different handling, so it all depends on how well you learn your car.
Youre a cool old dude
Respect
You remind me of a more mature version of blackpanthaa
damn that's true
I though opposite. Mentally tho yeah.
BRO WHY
If youre new i dont suggest trying this on roads since as i found the rebound is brutal
Yeah, i agree, you should see my ‘95 civic, sadface
I do it all the time in my 8th gen coupe, the center of gravity is quite low so it's really smooth with not too much rebound
wdym by rebound? Also, instead of using the brakes cant you use the handbrake?
Yeah it'll shake the fuck out of you
@fishyrishy788 when you exit and hit the throttle, the traction coming back can jerk the car violently. If you do it right, it won't be too rough, but it's something to be mentally prepared for.
the fiesta st forums are gonna be happy with you ;)
Reece_FST #ILoveSTForums 😈
Reece_FST just about the only people lol
Yup Fiesta ST owner 😂
0:20 It's Hard To Watch
It was like watching a learner pull away lol
Lone Okami the beginning slide was hard to watch lol. FWD is only good for low power to grip cars.
@@THESLlCK Like the 1200hp scion tc?
Moonlight is that the exception or the rule? Give me a break, you don’t have 1,200hp, get real.
@@THESLlCK Did you read the comment? No where did I say or suggest that I have 1200. You'd better go let those guys in the BTCC know that their cars will no longer work according to your new rule. Or just admit you know nothing about fwd
@0:16 "So let me explain"
*Drives off *
Teachers be like:
My dad
I haven't seen or heard anyone debating whether FWD or RWD is best for drifting or more fun, the general consensus is that RWD is more fun, and of course better for drifting if you're into ruining tires and stuff.
Just driving a Fiesta normally or in winter when you have limited traction is going to be more fun than most cars including RWD ones just because it's a fun peppy car with a lot of character. And easier to control without running people over like someone at a Mustang meet up.
RWD car will lose traction when its winter and pray to god it doesn't suddently snowing
@@mayuravirus6134 yes he's just bashing fwd
hes just flicking the car not actually drifting
Just got done doing snow and ice slides
@@pablosoriano6086 that's drifting dumbass
Fiesta STs are ridiculously easy to slide around, literally anyone can do it. Don't even need the brake on these, just go in to a corner a little bit too hot in second, lift off just before it starts to understeer, and the rear swings round. Not just a little bit either, I've done a 180 doing this before.
fifth generation civics are notorious for this as well in stock form. ive turned a couple inside out a few times by lifting off at the last minute and then letting the arse come out hahha
Ahh decent chassis and independent suspension goes along way(sidewards)
@@ryry5249 fiestas don't have independent rear suspension
@@tomelliott9 meant to be a reply about Honda. I didn't know the ST was torsion bar though
how do you slide it? just lift off the gas pedal approaching the turn?
Sooo... what I'm getting from this video is that its a good idea to drift a 145hp '98 Accord autobox?
Like the sound of all them stone's on your paint work
God he rags the hell out of that poor car!
+Nate Dogg And?......
Nate Dogg so what? it's his motor
You don't need to take care of things when mummy and daddy bank roll everything for you.
scroooge22 You sound a bit jealous mate?
scroooge22 No the fact that he does and enjoys it
I agree FWD is more fun, nothing like seeing a Ram owner's face after you pass him on a turn doing 40 over on 3 wheels!
gotta git mah pickup treeuck got dammit OH GOD DARLIN WHAT WAS THAT ASIAN PERSUASION ABOMINA S IAN CAR DOIN RIGHT YONDER ON THEM 3 WHEELS
ight i need sleep I am not okay
@@poppachoppa8956lmao
I think they're both fun in their own forms, and trying to compare them is a bit unfair. I've only just switched to RWD, from what I've experienced FWD is more forgiving, mash the throttle and chances are you've probably saved it. Rear wheel drive is a whole different realm of car control, and something that takes more time to master. Something I will learn...
yes bc its real drifting
@@pablosoriano6086 just because something is harder doesn't mean its more real, have you even ever driven a FWD car? you can have a lot of fun in one if you know how to.
I've done this loads of times but don't need to use the brake, just lift off overseer, floor it, flick it, lift off, slide it. Great fun, i think theres no point having any other car, theres only so much fun you can have on the roads and this is it.
Never do it when theres others around, not a single car if on the road
Agree, someone might be temped to try it too. I did a bit of handbrake drifting( too slow for lift off) at the tail end of a group of rally spectators leaving the venue on a gravel road. Next thing I see is the Mazda3 in front trying it, and going in a drain, that was ssoooo funny lol. Luckily for him he was able to back out of it, and did little to no damage to his car.
could you re-explain in to me please?
@@samuelexxx4013 My experience or marcoGT5's comment?
@@Ricardo_Moto how to drift a fwd
I always love when a youtuber talks about cars and does things with them
As someone who drifts, and autox a spec miata, and also rcently got a civic type r.
I gotta say I wouldn't say fwd is more fun then rwd. But I will say that fwd can be just as fun as rwd when the car is setup well :)
As a type r is ;)
Love how composed you are under pressure 😂 never playing poker with you buddy 😉
Crickey - one careful owner 😳😂
Glad no handbrakes were harmed. Another good tip is to buy a stiffer Rear sway bar. It'll make the rear break traction earlier than the front and cause a little oversteer. Very fun on the track and in the snow. Don't go overboard of you'll spin out but it's still hard to do.
Or do what I did and slide perfectly down the road with the nose point at one curb and the rear at the other curb happened my 1st snow sliding shit was funny. Sliding at 5 mph downhill on a straight road
that car has been absolutely smashed
Jay Is it?... Looks like the panels are still there.
Sid is not only a wrc driver but also a comedian. ill rephrase it, that car has been driven hard as a mofo
More frequent oil changes and bring forward the services no problem
this recommendation was definitely something. Thanks for Teaching Me That Front Wheel Drive Cars are Fun
From my experience in snow front wheel drive I found better than rear wheel drive, as your back end swings out, you always see the front and know when that swings out on Fwd, on Rwd when the back end swings out it can be tricky
where does all this legal madness take place!?!?!?!
+Dean Bay At Legal Locations!!
Trolling_Since_Yesterday he drives on the right. Hes gotta say something like Russia
Dean Bay XD
We on tht real gang shit free smoke air em out in public
Looks like Bradwell aerodrome in Essex. Old perimeter track
My friend had a Swift Dx, he redlined it, seized the engine 4-5 times, his tyres were flat, clutch only picked at the end, he drifts like a pro tho in that fwd, now owns a DLX, drives it like a fking granny. 😂.
Having driven and owned both FWD and RWD vehicles burnouts are more fun with RWDs but gotta say drifting with a FWD is actually more fun
Unless you're in reverse, you're not drifting a fwd.
@@spiralmoment it's technically just sliding when with a front drive I'm well aware
@@spiralmoment please take some of your time to read the wikipedia page about drifting, the first part of it tells it all: "Drifting is a driving technique where the driver intentionally oversteers, with loss of traction, while maintaining control and driving the car through the entirety of a corner or a turn." you can make FWD intentionally oversteer, doing it in a controlled manner, which is drifting, whether you like it or not.
@@BigToro Like I said. Unless you're driving backwards you're not drifting a fwd car. Sliding isn't drifting. I think you missed the part about maintaining control and driving the car through the entire corner.
@@spiralmoment you can go a whole corner sideways using a FWD car, its harder than RWD, but its possible. when you drive in reverse using a fwd its impossible to drift, could you drift a rear engined RWD car with rear wheels being the only ones steering? like a forklift.
please research the matter and don't assume that FWD acts like RWD in reverse.
you can absolutely drift a FWD car, its just matter of skill.
Haha, you saying "the end" just got me, so I've subbed. Ha.
The one thing i like in the winter always to floor it and do weird skids
you are good.
that could have saved me from my spin last december
something to practice for corner turn-ins
Holy crap, that slide at the start!
Doing the same drift distance and angle feels much more satisfying in FWD than RWD, because everyone think it’s normal for a RWD to slide but abnormal for FWD to slide, even if it’s the same distance and speed, that’s why it’s MUCH MORE FUN LOL
Great drifts man. Good video.
Drifting without a flick or lift is the hardest thing to catch ever!
This dude reminds me of top gear. I love it
The first safety disclaimer I have ever heard in one of your videos!😂
Casual conversation while driving like you preparing for a fast and furious role
This guy is great, one hell of a drive too
The skill required to actually make FWD drift makes it really entertaining for me (in terms of racing simulators so far; I don’t have a license yet)
It is just plain satisfying when you use the throttle understeer of the FWD to correct out of a drift
Does my 01 corolla have a decent chassis? I want to either turn it into a rally car or buy a miata and use that. What do you guys think?
Good video, straight to the point and no long ass intro that uses 4 minutes. 👍🤝
the classic front wheel drive lift-off oversteer trick
This reminds me of my ep3 type r. Great car
This guy actually uses his car. Kudos dude.
Their isn't really much rebound for me tbh, but I barely counter steer when sliding and stay on the power sometimes. I just "tap" the brakes while on throttle to get the car sideways before the turn, usually all four stay within double yellow. Sometimes the snappyness can help you out for the next corner if you take advantage of it correctly, just need enough snap to get all the weight onto the other side quickly. Its good for this tight right an then less tight sweeping left with a big dip in the middle. The snap helps me get a little angle while in the sip instead of losing traction because Im falling. Make sense?
That does look like a blast!
Fwd cars are also great for track. More grip, spins out less, and perfect handling. But, it has more understeer, unlike a rwd car.
I do this in my matrix on this one particular hairpin turn, I completely understand when you say you are trying to get the car to do something it doesn’t want to do😂
That first clip is so funny 😂💀
Nice, I wanna try that!
I hope the physics in FH5 are sophisticated enough to get it done.
I thumb it up even before its starts!
Awesome video nice to see some skids on camera again 👍🏼
Chick3nH3ad Cheers mate. Glad your loving it!!
I have the Ep3 type r and it's absolutely amazing for this.....and surprisingly my old passat b5.5 fwd lol.
Remind me never to purchase any used vehicle that has been driven by him! lol Poor ST took some proper punishment there.
And yes indeed...make sure you are not on the public road before you sling it sideways through a hedge!
The car is durable surprisingly
lol it could be treated worse trust me, if it was driven by me lol
So, i raced a friend on a pretty steep hill like a month ago. I have an Audi a4 b8, 2.0 CAGA, FWD. I pushed the car to its limits and usually it tends to understeer. But in that moment i saw an opportunity to overtake him and of course we raced for money so i had to. He was driving a way more powerfull car, more safety sistems, better tires, automatic transmision, all of that. In my head i knew that the only way for me to win would be in the corners. I noticed how i got closer with each turn. When i saw the opportunity i went for it. Half gas until the middle of the corner and then i lift off the gas and the back end swings. I release the wheel and countersteer slowly controlling it. My car's ESP was off. Well that corner was the first time the back end swinged like this and the first time this car oversteerd. It felt like i could go faster in corners. I did this again in the next corner and at the end i won. A week ago another friend came home with a beast. A5 3.0 V6 tuned to 335 hp, quattro. After we drove some of our friends at their houses, we were alone with our cars. on the way to his house he started pushing his car to test it on our roads. Because of what i just found out about my car i could push it like crazy. i was right behind him. After we raced we stopped for a cigarette. He told me there's no way I kept up with him. I couldn't believe it either. My car only has mods on the susspension. The engine, gearbox and all of that are stock. I am talking 143HP keeping up with 335HP. The weird thing is that when i drive is car i feel scared a little bit. I don't feel like i can push it a lot, he's got so many mods and the car feels way more stable than mine but it doesn't feel like a got a connection to it. I cannot feel another car like i do with mine. Now i'm thinking of saving money for some mods on mine. Also because of all the races and pushing it to its limits the cv joints start to fail and that scares me cuz i truly am broke. I'm talking like 2 dollars in my wallet, 10 on my card and 2 cigarretes in the packet. I also don't work yet and i am affraid to race with failing cv joints. I need the car as a daily not only a racer =)
The most fun car is the one you have regardless of drivetrain, gotta get out there and drive and have a few laughs :)
Its snowing. Me and my Golf TDI have a lot of fun
I feel bad for that ST :(
Craigslist listing:
mint condition ST
Well taken care of and maintained
Oil changed every 2500 miles
New tires
Never seen a winter
Owned by a Non smoker
Need gone asap no use for it no more i have a new car and this ones just taking up space..NO LOW BALLERS. HAHA
Very good nice!! Do you think i could do that with my corsa if I'm running to much because i don't have much horsepower.its the 75 hp model?
It's a good way to present yourself
To the youth and also the general public
You make it look like its so easy bro
Please tell me where this was shot. I need some practice :)
as someone who dailies fwd, I can unequivocally say
rwd kicks fwd's ass and if you disagree your girlfriend is definitely cucking you for that dude in the Impreza down the road
OfDaSouth Impreza is awd
OfDaSouth Impreza dudes never hit 5’10 tho.
Impreza is for people whose favorite food is sandwiches and sexual fetish is naked women.
Unless it's raining, snowing, or you're driving on dirt. In that case fwd has rwd beat any day
Wait why tf don’t we have 2 door Fiesta STs in America that’s sick
xTheNameisEthan then US doesn’t get a lot of the hot hatches
You earned my sub. Keep it up 😊😀
Let me know your thoughts on FWD and RWD!! 😀
I've got a fwd 1.4 TDCI 2007 fiesta....nothing to do but every day driving, unusable to..."get fun" just tryied on a rotatory to go sideways and i've achieved it got much fun but come on u need a rwd to make the game
Awd is where it's at
RWD FOREVER i have a v6 s197 mustang and it rips well..sorta someday i will get fwd so i can experience it but for now i will stick to RWD. oh yea and greetings from usa
Sideways Sid Can Plz make Next Video On Suzuki WagonR Car How To Do The Front Wheel Fun Safely Plz It's A Request Because I Had Car Of Suzuki And It's WagonR vxi Model So Plz Next Video On WagonR VXI PLZ
I used to hate fwd but not now it depends on the car and speed
Where do you all find abandoned roads to try this?
i was really considering of getting a 159 alfa but i am really prejudiced of getting a fwd
How is it for tofu delivery?
Going 100km/h on a little road talking like he just woke up😂😂
What’s the speed at which you are doing this ?
how do i make it rear-wheel drive like a rally car?
you have the TPMS light on. It would be even easier with overinflated tires rather than low pressurized ones.
This bloke is the embodiment of a well-presented unpopular opinion.
Getting sideways in a FWD car can definitely be easier to control, you have the safety net of being able to power out of it when you're ready 😂 not so simple with RWD when the back end comes out to the point of no return, which I've experienced a few times haha
Nice driving Mate I love fwd can't get to grips with rwd probably not good enough driver lol
RWD cars slide easier because they have less traction going sideways due to the complete lack of power on the front wheels. RWD cars accelerate with a push force whereas front wheel drive cars accelerate with a pull force. The pull force can be quite thrilling when the driver feels truly connected to the car and pushes it beyond its limit. That's the magic of front wheel drive drifting. Drivers of RWD and 4WD cars would argue that FWD drifting is impossible. That's simply because they don't have a feel of FWD cars.
This work in a vivaro vauxhall van ?
Where is the other video?????
I am a Fiesta fanboy and I am pleased...
i wanna learn this….i need more
Bradwell! Knew I recognised it haha
Avoid the rebound by steering more straight into the turn and drifting the front wheels? You gotta break free all 4.
My daily is a '02 mitsubishi space star that enjoys some offroading and doing what u call "diet burnout"😅 sometimes it smeels like burnt rubber depending on my cornering
Weird part of it is it gives off a smell if i go over 115 km/ on straights
can u do that with a 75cv Diesel Ford fiesta?
Your such a great guy Sid your a true inspiration about cars, having fun and general opinions that im sure 99% of your viewers agree with id love to have a fan base and a product to conduct the same views as you do great guy keep it up would love to meet you for some skids or a talk about the amazing cars about that not everybody agrees on.
I love my car.
C3 my beloved
What are your thoughts on the M135i then ?
+James Hibbert Awesome Car 🙌🏽
Fuckboy car
In Germany we got them with xDrive. Proper drifting gets then more fun as sliding an ST. Without it, it's interesting but it'd need the differential.
nice vids, but never any mechanical sympathy :(
Alex Cant It gets its regular check ups all the time. But as far as I'm concerned that's the entire point of Hot Hatches that makes them so much fun!!
Both can be fun it depends on what you are doing real wheel drive can be fun but more on a track if you're not on a track you can't go sideways really but a front wheel drive car can be more grippy and pull in on country roads using similar techniques as you would to lift off over steer pulls the front in nice and well and it'll go round perfectly can learn rally techniques nice and easy in a front wheel drive car as I learnt with my first car on the road by driving like a loonetic on the roads to college
I did by accident the other day in an Audi Avant (estate) with roof box on. People thought I knew what I was doing. (I didn't) 😅
Looked like power slide dude...
Where was the video shot?
Hey sid where was this filmed??
1. You didnt made a full video.
2. Can you explain about the brake ? when, how much, why the brake and not the handbrake ?
How I do this in my honda v6
Where is this?
What makes it fun:
You need to barrel into a turn in order to drift it
Oh hi