BTS - HARDSHIPS 2013 - 2021 (Reaction)
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- BTS - HARDSHIPS 2013 - 2021 (Reaction)
After I did the first video I was told about this more current video that offers an insight into BTS modern struggles with Racism, mistreatment, accusations + more. I am currently on a journey of learning about BTS before I hear any music.
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Suga was actually recently asked in an interview if it’s painful for him to write songs about some of his darker thoughts and feelings and his response was that it’s actually very healing for him, he said he doesn’t feel like he is re living the Pain at all, rather he is releasing it… this really shows how important his music is to him and his mental health
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About Suga, he has a song called The Last. It doesn't have an MV, but you can find a lyric video with English subs. In this song, he raps about his depression, and you can actually hear the anguish in his voice. I HIGHLY recommend listening to it, even on your own time. I love all the members, but his rap just hits me different. And I'm not even a rap lover! I'm a 67 year old Army who found these wonderful, talented young men in 2015. At my age, I've witnessed MANY, MANY artists, and NONE have come to mean as much to me as these boys. They bring me so much joy. I hope you continue on your BTS journey. You won't regret it, I promise. If I could recommend a few songs, Spring Day, Black Swan, Blood Sweat and Tears, Not Today, Life Goes On, Danger (an "oldie") and So What are just a handful of some of my favorites. I also recommend MMA 2019 and MMA 2020 if you want to experience a live performance of theirs.
The Last is such a good song. 💜
I'm glad it resonated with you too. I'm almost 40 and also not really a rap fan, but I make 3 exceptions to that rule (sometimes 4 when JK feels the vibe). ;)
I hated rap because of most American rappers, but BTS show me rap can be good and meaningful. I am 46 and I have never care about any artists or celebrities but BTS hit differently.
Jim keeps talking about rap as poetry, and I think that The Last and First Love are amazing examples of that from Suga. That one live performance of First Love from Wings: The Final is... powerful. I'm also a newer ARMY, in my 30's, and I never appreciated rap before I found these guys. I really hope Jim checks out those two songs as he continues his BTS journey.
he cried recording it, gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it
its funny how some people are accusing BTS/BIGHIT of manipulating the charts even nowadays 😂 They don't need to pay to boost the streams 😂 THEY ONLY NEED ARMY 😂 we are highly organized when it comes to streaming, we don't need to cheat 😂
Fact
But because their fandom and way of getting streams is so different, the algorithms can't handle it and keep confusing us with bots and subtract streams. BTS is an anomali in so many ways.
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Next updated version of hardships should include the accusation of manipulating Hot100 Billboard chart through sales 🙄duhh.. US ARMY did a marvelous job putting BTS at no.1 with genuine sales.. but being mocked instead. Dont get me started with the unfair filtering rate of streaming against BTS songs. Freakin 30%-40% filtering rate??? Unheard of if it is for western artist😤
The fandom has tons of guides in different formats about how to stream properly so each stream is counted. ARMY has conducted our own global experiments to research how to do it. BIGHIT learns from us. 😅😅 That's how we can beat out artists whose labels are using bots.
The song accused of misogyny was War of Hormone...which was literally meant to be - farcically - a representation of how teenage boys struggle with their hormones when they start noticing women. The lyrics are TAME, especially compared to Western music, and the MV is clearly intended to be humorous and not taken seriously. There was nothing wrong with it at all in my opinion. 🙄
I really didn’t see anything wrong with it especially I had a teenage boy who is no longer a teenager now.
It more like poking fun of themselves at the time, it has a sarcastic tone to it
There was mistranslations which was a bit controversial but the actual lyrics werent bad
I was also just reading their official apology this morning. And then 21st century girl was released as a female empowerment anthem.
@@melsb1825 yes awesome song.
It is tiring trying to prove people wrong about what they think about the boys, imagine how tired the boys are as well.. but seeing the boys doing their best makes us feel like we should too. We would always be here to support them all the way 💜
Re mental illness / depression / social anxiety.
One thing you have to realize is that none of that is acknowledged in Korea like it is in the west. It's viewed as a character flaw... a weakness. That may be changing now, but at the time Suga wrote The Last it was still something that no one spoke about.
So yeah... it was extraordinary for him to bare his soul like that. Korea puts a lot of pressure on adolescents to conform to societal norms and to study/get good grades in schools. Korea also has the highest teen suicide rate.
The saddest thing is that when all the undeserved hate they got at the beginning - they were almost all minors at the time... the hate and accuastions were so vicious and public too... these were adults in the media trying to slander and break children to keep the status quo.... but every time BTS were knocked down we stood beside them and they got up and kept fighting.... now they (literally) heal millions with their kind words and positive actions...... Best thing ever - BTS showed the world you don't need anybody but your fans and yourself - screw the corrupt music industry that want to hold onto power... and thank god for CZcams and the ability for musicians to have their music heard world wide.
You're right about the competition in Kpop. One way to wrap your head around it is to realize that Kpop and kpop fans are like sports teams and sports fans. Kpop fans are highly organized in Korea, so they dig deep into the stats. They also petition entertainment companies on their group's behalf if they think their group is being treated unfairly. This is not something you see in the US.
That clip with Jungkook and the hamburgers breaks my heart every time. When you watch the full thing, the guy mocked his gift and wouldn't let anyone else eat them either, and JK - who was still a teenager at this point! - looked so genuinely bewildered and then made such an effort to smile and act like he was fine when you could tell he wasn't. If I recall correctly, that show involved fan voting and at one point JK actually asked his fans to stop voting for him because of the other people on the show.
The fact that he was able to face that man years later with a smile just shows me how good of a person Jeongguk is - just like all the boys. If it were me I'd never want to see that man again in my life.
I know JK was able to rise above it but it still bothers me. He was just a kid and it was so mean. I’m trying to let it go lol
Yes, you are recalling correctly. Jungkook was making subtle X's with his arms during the voting to tell fans not to vote for him. I am glad he was able to put it behind him but I do not know if I can ever see that man in a good light after he treated a kid that way for laughs on national television.
I still can’t watch it either, especially thinking how much of an effort Jungkook probably had to make to even go on, being so young still, shy and without his hyungs when at this point they were still trying to rise and he didn’t have as much experience with shows like this:(
That clip breaks my heart.... I swear.. it hurts me.. to see Jungkook trying to laugh through the pain and hide his emotions of being mistreated..
As a German, I can unfortunately tell you that the general coverage of that incident in the German media boiled down to:
"Cancel culture by hysteric fangirls is coming for radio-host who was just humorously expressing his opinion".
After weeks of protests and Army being drawn through the mud the media company employing the host decided to relegate him to hosting a podcast on "regional music".
The broadcaster is also part of our public-sector broadcasting networks, so our tax money pays for them. You can't imagine the dissapointment you feel when you have to realize that your hard-earned money pays for this guy to be excused and keep working his job without much of a repercussion.
The host plans to write a book about his "experience" in the near future.
He's writing a book??😭🥲oh nooo
Experience being racist? We should block that book and protest.
@@hoanhuynh7059 he considers himself unfairly attacked for only expressing his opinion. So the book is likely to be about the "outrage machine" and "hysterical, threatening fans". The German media is a serious embarrassement at this point.
So now he's playing the victim card, huh? But anyway, who cares.. he is still in Germany. While our boys's wings spread WORLDWIDE. Comparing to the boys, he is just a merely little flies. He's a trash nobody would look at
@@firstdeediana4389 I guess what really disappointed me, was seeing the way the German media treated this. It was framed as "host becomes victim of the internet outrage machine" and only the most tame of his remarks were mentioned.
The whole thing was presented as "fans are angry he doesn't like BTS", when that wasn't what we were angry about at all.
It's upsetting to see that outlets that pretend to be anti-racism put protecting their own over their supposed values.
Recently while they were celebrating their 8th anniversary and listening to their old song '2! 3!', which is a very meaningful song for us, Suga said: "We had been through a hard time but ARMY got hurt a lot too. We were supposed to shield all the repression [referring to their name 'Bulletproof boyscout'] but ARMY were enduring it with us. Through this song, I feel like that became a secret code for ARMY and us"
Then RM added: "I feel like we can talk about this now and here is what I think: for those 3 years 2015, 2016, 2017, it was tough for us and our fans and there were many people who hated us. ARMY were trying so hard to protect us and we tried harder than anyone else while making content and doing other things. When I look back on those 3 years they mean a lot to me."
I guess you can see now why BTS are such underdogs especially in South Korea. And why they feel such a thankfulness towards ARMY, because they really are doing it alone with ARMY especially at home. BTS success really is thanks to their own efforts and the support of ARMY. And ARMY will always protect BTS. They aren't toxic. They're protective.
Lets be Honest, if someone attack our family, we will be protective and thats normal. BTS and ARMY is a family and will always be. If they call us toxic and sensitive for being a family not a fandom, I am ok with that
@@neenu2320 😭😭😭😭 true
I love the way you chose to get into BTS 💜 And yes, you will feel protective of them, knowing some of these things they have been and still get exposed to.
V telling ARMY about his grandma is heartbreaking, and makes me tear up every time 🥺
Tiny desk would be a good place to start. Anywhere would be a good place to start. The beginning going forward, present going backwards or somewhere in the middle just taking it as it comes. It's all good 😄💜
Thanks for jumping into the updated version mad respect learning about BTS this way
thank you for taking your time to get to know them before judging. you understand more than any other reactor and that’s very touching to us army. enjoy the ride with bts 💜
Can't wait for you to react to the Cyphers, Cypher pt 2 is basically in response to that rapper who called RM and SUGA girls/not real rappers.
BTS and Big Hit have a really close bond. The CEO of their company is like a father to them. I remember in their program Bon Voyage in 2016, their CEO wrote them a heartfelt handwritten letter, where he told the boys how thankful he was that they let him experienced the things he didn't even dream of. It made me cry honestly. They are such one big family💜
He's also mainly a Composer +
Producer, besides CEO, so it was
understandable that he gave the
CEO pos. over, but still is chair
man w/biggest % + in charge of
the musical side he can concen-
trate on as his 1st love.😊💜
Sadly, an ex CEO but I am happy to see Bang PD is going back to what he loves, which is music production.
can't wait your journey with BTS and I will wait your videos about BTS for sure...I love your genuine reaction
the problem about military is that entertainment companies used BTS to get the new law, but after the law was made with requirements of BTS' level, they suddenly claimed that it's unfair and unreachable (though BTS got Order of Cultural Merit in 2018 so they had time to rise their standards). while i agree that kpop industry deserve to get the possibility of military delay with lower requirements just like other public professions, the problem is in the attitude of those companies. don't use BTS as a trojan horse to get what you want or don't complain that BTS is a standart now
A lot of the struggles BTS faced in the industry in their earlier years had to do with classism and corruption. Being looked down on and shut out because they weren't from a big company, and cast aside in favour of the big company groups.
What really shocked me is that BTS didn't have a waiting room even in 2016 - the same year they did so well that they won Album of the Year and Artist of the Year. They were doing well on Billboard and in Korea and they were still being treated like that and looked down on.
BTW, the Garbage Pail Kids was to do with the West. The other artists depicted were Grammy nominees too, but somehow, no one thought it was disgusting to depict 7 Asian men as battered by a Grammy in the height of anti-Asian hate crimes in the US. Even worse, it was being endorsed by Billboard with affiliate links until we raised our voices about how messed up it was.
Outside of Korea, racism is the biggest problem. Somehow, people feel empowered to say the most vile things about them because they feel they can say, "Crazy fans are so sensitive, they can't take a joke." or "I'm not racist, I have a Korean car" (which is basically what the German radio dj said). It's insane that they don't even try to play safe by not being controversial on a public broadcast. They are so blinded by prejudice that they don't care to have an informed opinion on something. And they don't have to worry coz so many people gang up on BTS mindlessly without knowing them that they can get away by playing the victim instead. They often brush off racism by saying that people are allowed to dislike a song, while ignoring that we wouldn't care if they disliked it without being racist about it. It doesn't help that kpop stans in general will happily flock to support any side that is against BTS. Doesn't matter if it's racist and insults the race of people they supposedly like, as long as BTS is being dunked on. And now that fans of Western artists are feeling more and more threatened by BTS' success, they're starting to act an awful lot like those hateful kpop stans.. Really amazing how low people can stoop.
Since you asked about the competitions in Korea having numbers, those are actually music shows. There are multiple broadcast networks that host their own music show. When an artist releases new music, they typically go on these shows one after the other to promote the song. They'll perform it and their fans can attend the show. The numbers are a bunch of score given on different criteria like digital and physical sales, broadcast, pre-voting and live voting. Diff shows may have different criterias or weightages for these elements. So basically you see these scores only for the top songs that got nominated for that week of the show. The methodology is not very clearly transparent, but you can make a guess. Altogether, the music shows are not the Korean equivalent of Billboard. But it's a way to get on TV and get known to the public. Not to mention, artists kinda HAVE to go to these shows if they want to curry favour with the broadcast stations because they're all connected to big dogs in the industry and picking a fight kind of has repercussions in other entertainments fields like acting, commercials etc.
As for the military enlistment matter, it's kinda ridiculous how all the major companies (excluding Big Hit) went together to request military exemption in the hopes of getting it for their artists while using BTS as an example. They thought that if they could convince them using BTS's success (shamelessly, since they have all been happy to trample on them), then they could benefit from them. Funnily, once the law was revised stating that you need to be recognised by the govt for contributions to the country in order to be eligible to postpone enlistment, all these companies that used BTS' name threw a fit saying that it's impossible. It's even funnier coz all these companies have been paying the media to put out news that acts like their groups are just as successful as BTS or are going to be the next BTS. But now, what BTS achieved is impossible. Lol.. the inconsistency.
Anyway, this ended up being really long. But I wanted to lay out certain things that weren't explained for clarity's sake. Thank you for taking the time to learn about them. They've really worked absurdly hard with all the odds against them. They really deserve the world for putting so much heart and soul into their music and actions. They're genuinely good people and it makes me happy to see the good guys win because it doesn't happen often enough..
Honestly, you said all the things I wanted to say. I'm just sitting here and bracing myself for the Hot100 results that will come out in a few hours because as it has happened for the past 8 straight weeks that bts has been topping the chart, I just know that the boys and us will get more attacks from antis and possibly media people that are enraged about their success. It's not easy having to deal with that every week, but as long as our boys are happy that's all I want to focus on.
"The rise of bangtan" Is a really long but incredibly well done docu series made by ARMY that dives deep into both BTS and korean culture, and how kpop is usually percieved over there
Each chapter includes songs (in chronological order) so while its a great series and something I imagine youd really wanna check out, maybe you could watch it after youve heard some of their music
And yes! Their tiny desk now has lyrics too, and shows a small range of what they can do. It includes the song spring day which is the one i would have recommended otherwise too
Love your reactions! :)
Please react to this series. They are amazing)
Yes pls.The best fanmade documentary about BTS. It's Netflix level☺️💜
@@nikkanessbaltazar6955 Absolutely!
I love The Rise of Bangtan, I'm a baby Army and it made me understand so many things, not only about BTS but also about Korean education, culture and how the entertainment industry works, is a very good way to get to know them and to understand the messages behind their music 😉💜
Up Up Up 👆 👆 👆
Kim taehyung also known as V, I respect that man so much like really very very very much. His grandma passed away, antis attacked, he stayed strong. His grandpa passed away and at the same time his close friend suicided too. Still this man stayed strong. Antis on twitter making fun of their death is RIDICULOUS. Pictures of his grandma, beside the picture of Skeletons and stuffs is DISTURBING for us to watch, then imagine how would he feel. Antis are honestly the worst CREATURE ever.
dont worry, friend. when ARMY gets angry, we stream, and we camp at the top of every chart available. and it's easy to do, cos we genuinely love their songs, we love all 7 members, we believe in their message, and we have strength in numbers.
Hello from Finland 😄. You popped up on my recommendations with Tuomas Holopainen ( The Last Sled), and I’m so glad that you found BTS. I’m an old (77) country western fan who didn’t even like rap until BTS found me with MicDrop. For someone with depression you have found the right group be it with their group songs, solos, Japanese or Korean. And Army are the best ever. By the way, V only told about his grandma because the fans had been so worried about him being so unhappy looking! What made me really angry was how JK was treated because he was only about 16yrs old. Welcome to the rabbit hole 🤗💜💜💜
Please do the introduction to the 7 members next. I think it' s really important for you to get to know them personally now!! There is a very popular introduction by Suga & Spice, which is quite emotional but only goes up to 2018. And there is a newer one by Ida S, which is a bit more neutral but up to date in information. You could also just do both (possibly in one video), we would still watch it! And, yes, the Tiny Desk Concert is a good start for their music (remember to turn on the subtitles then).
YES! the 7 members of bangtan is ana amazing vidoe!! Can't wait
I watched those videos so many times :D. I watched the Sugar & spice one first, so I used to like that one more (I like the editing), but the Ida S one is great too- I think he needs to watch both!!
Ida S is more professional and up to date, I prefer that one!
Yeah, I prefer watching Ida S “Introduction to the 7 members (2021 update)”
Yes the Tiny Desk Concert is amazing
JungKook was a teenager 18yo at the time - they were all so rude to him it was disgusting.... he was there alone and very, very shy at the time... and he was tottally out of his depth, he was nearly in tears and begged the audience to vote him off at the end of the show.... They were all much older adults and his seniors in the industry.... to show how much of a great man JungKook is - he recently met that host again and was an absolute gentleman.... needless to say the host was soooo nice to him - how the tables turned........... Karma ia an AMRY!!
Pls, not the disinformation, it was in 2016, so not right after debut and jk was not 16, he was 18, almost 19
@@wowetoona If you read correctly I said "a teenager about 16"... not sure what it is with korean and international ages, thank you for clarifying the year it was released I can only go by what videos were released here oon the other side of the world... no need to be rude about it... have a lovely day!!
@@beccal.5369 I'm sorry, i didn't want to be rude, English is not my first language, so i can't control it😹
@@beccal.5369 and he was 18 in international age and 20 in korean
@@wowetoona Thanks, have updated the comment
I got to attend the BTS concert at the Honda Center in 2017, where Jimin got death threats, and I felt incredibly anxious throughout the concert, especially whenever Jimin appeared on stage. I was so worried about not only him potentially being harmed but also the other members, staff, and fellow concert-goers getting hurt. If someone like me (who was just a member of the audience) felt that way, I can’t imagine how Jimin (and Namjoon) must’ve felt standing in the literal spotlight for hours knowing that they are the target.
I’m glad nothing came of it and BTS performed as wonderfully as they always did. Honestly, I think seeing them carry on as usual, not showing even the slightest distress, is what ultimately helped me keep my cool and enjoy the concert even through my anxiousness. I applaud their professionalism and passion for their craft to no end.
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts on this updated hardships video! It’s interesting to see someone go against the grain and try to learn more about BTS’s story/members and the kpop industry itself before launching into the (arguably) more easily digestible kpop content like music videos and performances. I’m looking forward to your exploration of BTS’ discography/performances.
About the hamburger thing. He was still a minor and was at the filming solo without the other members. It was back in 2016 when they had some success, but not a lot. Bts was really the butt of every joke for a long time in the industry (no power, but enough visibility), until they became too big to joke around with. Even now media isn't completely on their side, and are downplaying their achievement, but luckily people outside of the music industry are catching up and asking questions.
About the White Paper project. It's one of my favorite pieces of army history - essentially a diplomatic crisis engulfed bts, and western media picked up on what the Japanese media was saying without any fact checking or critical analysis. Armys gathered and made an equivalent of a position paper - such as that of governments or NGOs where they academically and critically analyzed the entire situation to explain to the media, but especially to other fans who didn't understand what was going on, what the situation between the two countries is and what our position as fans is (as far as bts involvement goes). It laid the controversy to rest.
ARMYs are like the parents of BTS protecting and supporting them no matter what happen.. we're like a one big family 💜
The german radio host had to cancel his show and as far as I know hasn't been on air since.
Well, I'm glad to know this... racism and bullying should not be condoned in any way.
SUGA was always vocal about issues in our society and about mental health, even when it was more a taboo topic in South Korea. He is open about his own experience not only in his music, but also on interviews. He wants to normalize conversations about mental health and show people that that they can talk about their issues without feeling ashamed. He is actually studying psychoanalysis as he wants to get a license to professionaly help people. I recommend you to listen to his songs "The Last", "So far away" ft. Suran, "140503 at dawn", which he released as part of his first self-produced mixtape under the name Agust D
🙇🙇🙇 please do sir
"Karma is an Army" series would be awesome for you to go through as well. By the way, the Garbage Pail Caricatures of BTS getting beaten councided with Asian hate crimes (Asian getting hit on the streets) in USA and elsewhere. The Bayern 3 radio station never fired the racist DJ but the station were caught playing BTS songs this year. Lol
Plus you are really going to enjoy when you finally dip into the music.
Now you understand why us ARMYs are so protective over them. They are amazing people who deserve nothing but the best in their lives and in their careers. Not everyone will like their music or their work but the least they can do is respect them, which is something they dont have. I am happy you are an open minded person and took time to know them and why they are where they are. Thank you so much for that.
this is the main reason why the BTS ARMYs are so protective of the boys.
Throughout the years I've been an Army, there's one thing I am positive about those boys. They have an incredible strength in their characters. They address the hate, those oppressive tactics and disrespect with class and better music. They focus on their music, their performance and Army, instead of dwelling on those who go out of their way to hate them. That's where my respect for them truly lies. It is the hardest thing to do imho, but they're doing it. These boys are not only talented, they are hard-working but also incredibly strong-willed and determined. Their sincerity and, sometimes, the raw vulnerability they share through their music makes them both human and very real. When you start listening and understanding their music, you'll truly know what I mean, but thank you for trying to learn about them as the people, as the humans behind the phenomenon.
there was an amazing interview by Sakshma Srivastav recently, and Suga was asked what he feels about creating music that is so honest and raw about his pains and sufferings (btw if you want to listen to his solo songs where he talks about his own experiences and feelings, he has two mixtapes under his solo stage name Agust D. Agust D backwards is D t(sugA), where suga is a reference for his other stage name and "D t" is a reference for his birth place - Daegu town)
Suga's answer: _it wasn't that difficult. Because we work on music a lot, we have many songs out there. So when we work on our individual projects, we always think about what to talk about. Now that we look back at those experiences, we feel thankful, because they enable us to tell various stories. And the things that used to be painful to recall. are not anymore, because releasing music also helps alleviate that emotion. For me it has been helpful. Many people are living with their traumatic memories, but i'm sure the moment will come when they overcome that. And i also think you need to go through the process where you organize these emotions. And gor me, one of that process is releasing music_
I recommend "the most beautiful moment in life: A story of bts 2021" by Asian theory to have a larger view of their beginings, evolution, and career.
Really appreciate ur reaction :)
I'm sorry but I need to disagree here, I don't recommend that video. It very much focuses on the K-pop angle and doesn't make clear how BTS are different. It also doesn't do their incredible artistry enough justice and also creates some false narratives. What it says about Dynamite, for example, contradicts what the members themselves have said about why they made the song. There are several introductions out there which are a lot better. Also, Jim has already done an introduction on the whole group, I think he would really benefit from learning about the individual members now.
@@organiccookie1306 I agree. I've never really liked that video because it really downplays how much the boys' honesty and sincerity play into their success. They make it sound like BTS just found the right "formula" when really a lot of their appeal is because they make music they want to make, not because they were trying to become famous.
@@faliciaforward Agree 100%, it's that formula aspect that is misleading! I don't understand why so many people recommend that video...
YES!! This video is amazing to see their journey,how hey end up in the group, how their music changed and what they have achieved. and 2 days ago he made AN UPDATED VERSION of this video. This video was not ment to know their personality and each of the talents or hardships, so for the purpose of the video its doing 100% of what it was meant to show. This is why we always recommend all of this videos together - THIS one, and the hardships video, and the 7 members introduction video. So all of them together is what gonna make the difference.
So for somebody who already know their hardships, this video is AMAZING to see that even because of all of the hardships they achieved ALL OF THIS!!
There is no better video that talks about their journey+achivements in a short form!!
@@organiccookie1306 AGREED. I remember being so hyped to watch this with everyone just raving about how amazing it is but the amount of false narratives just made me feel iffy, some so early in the video too. thought it was just me lol
SUGA has helped me through my own mental health struggles. His demeanor, example, and wisdom (as someone younger than me, too) actually have been enormous breakthroughs for me in living a life more free from mental health struggles that run in my family. All of BTS have been companions, helpers, and friends for me over the last two years that I have been ARMY. Their involvement with us and reciprocating our support is beautiful. I know this phenomenon will be the subject of research for future generations.
(You're probably tired of me leaving comments about just about every part of the video, haha, but I truly have a lot of thoughts so why not share them.) Genuinely the people claiming Taehyung was trying to get sympathy over his grandmother is one of the most disgusting parts of this entire series of terrible things. He's a very young man who has lost so much in his life, but his grandmother raised him. She essentially was a mother and grandmother to him. And when she passed, he was only TWENTY and this is the woman who he spent 14 years of his life being raised by. For people to mock that loss or accuse him of wanting attention is beyond abhorrent. There are no words. And he lost his grandfather a few years later, and the kid is only 25 now. The cruelty knows no bounds and I hope those people never suffer their own cruelty back at them.
Absolutely not! Thank you for sharing your insights with us.
When you said, “I feel like getting mad for them” I’m sure that’s how ARMY feel so they protect BTS a lot.
V crying really breaks my heart very time I see it cause I know how it hurts to loss someone in death. I've known BTS since May 20, 2018 when I saw them for the first time at the billboard awards and I wondered who they were and started searching about them. They been thru so much hardships that they deserve to be where they are at now. They are amazing, talented young men. I'm 69 and I totally love their messages in their music. The first song I heard was "Fire" and I right there and then I became Army. Thank you so much for reaching to our young men BTS totally appreciate it.
We have another strong Army member, Armys! Get ready! I love that we can feel your protectiveness for BTS in this video. This is how Armys feel and this is why we fight so hard for BTS! :)
One of the things I like the most of bts n big hit is that they apologize when they make a mistake, make mistakes is human n they recognize it, I can tell the another 99% of kpop and other artists make so much mistakes and they and their company never apologize
If you want to laugh a little, I suggest the KARMA IS AN ARMY series.
Suga had the hardest life (pre-debut) out of all the members. At 13, he started writing lyrics and learned MIDI . His first love is his piano or music in general. (He made a song about his piano entitled "First Love") who he described as his only friend when he was a kid.
His parents didn't support his passion for music. They were not financially stable and were being practical. They would even throw his lyrics to discourage him but Suga would sneakily continue to do it.
"As for me...[my parents] were very much against [me becoming a rapper] to make me reconsider [my choice], they hit [me] and fought, and things like this...so I made music [under those circumstances].
"I had some basic MIDI gear before entering the company, things I'd bought as lyricist after saving up enough money by walking around for 2 hrs everyday and skipping dinners everyday"
In his hometown, he used to work as a studio engineer while composing and performing in front of 2- 50 people, ( he was part of the hip-hop group called D-town then where he is one of the youngest). He worked part time at a music studio and was underpaid, sells his songs but often gets scammed (gets away w/o paying) . He said his parents never saw him performed back then.
Suga went to Seoul to pursue music at 17. A rural boy who went to Seoul, South Korea's capital city, even if not many could understand his dialect. Imagine pursuing your dream where no one believes in you aside from your older brother. Where everyone told you that if you pursue music, you'll make your family broke.
He had only one supporter at that time, his older brother, to whom he would show his songs.
When asked if his parents eventually gave him permission to make music and Suga replies "well...before giving me permission, I was already out and about doing music."
He struggled at finance in Seoul and admitted that before, he would have to choose between buying a two dollar noodles or using his money to take a bus (he will always choose to starve ). On Wings concept interview, he said that in the past, he had struggled to afford three meals a day.
Q: What happened in the past?"
"I couldn't eat three meals a day It was hard"
"When I was working in the studio, I arranged songs or made beats and even sold them. Then I naturally started to rap and did performances"
Q: How much did you earn?
" Nothing"
Q: You said you were working though.
"That’s what it was like to work there. Usually we don’t have any income. Working in the studio, it was difficult to pay for food and transport. In front of the studio, there was a Chinese restaurant that sells Jajangmyeon for 2,000 won, if I walk down further, there was a place that sells Janchi guksu for 1,000 won. I worried about it everyday. If I eat the 1,000 won Janchi guksu, I could get the bus and if I eat the 2,000 won Jajangmyeon, I’d have to walk 2 hours to get home. Even though it was tough, I want to make music so I endured it."
Suga/Agust D had nothing except for his skills and confidence. He saw an audition poster (From Bighit company) of a rap competition on which he participated and won 2nd place. On semi-finals, participants were asked to perform to the same beat and write own lyrics but Suga modified the beat, not just wrote the lyrics which made him stood out. He was scouted later on. He was the only member who was already an established producer before becoming part of BTS.
His parents couldn't support him in college for they were poor that's why, Suga worked part time jobs as well (at dawn ) while maintaining going to school ( at different times and will end up sleeping most of time because he's tired) and practicing as a trainee (at night). He also used to buy lottery tickets weekly because he was that desperate and hopeless.
When he's on college, apart from working as a sound engineer before, he had worked at convenience store, had taught composing and MIDI lessons, and another is that delivery job where he got into an accident (2012 pre-debut) and his shoulder got shattered. He didn't tell anyone, afraid the company will kick him out, that's why his shoulder didn't heal right. This shoulder will be something that he will have to endure for 9 years, later on.
He told the members that he just fell down the stairs. Eventually, the company found out about this injury and paid his college tuition and hospital fees. It was surprising considering that the company were facing an almost "bankruptcy" at that time.
Suga told the truth about the accident to the members 2018 on "Burn the stage series". It is also where he recalled that the last thing he remembered before the accident was the "wheel" in front of him.
It's one of the factors as to why his mental health issues had worsened.
"Min Yoongi was dead. (I killed him)"
It is music which saved Yoongi and it is also music which Yoongi lives for.
(He's been suffering for almost a decade because of that injury that didn't heal right. It even came to a point that it has become a hindrance to his everyday life. He once said in an interview that when he tried to lift a 50ml bottle when they were filming a commercial, his shoulder hurt. )
Suga, undergoing surgery last November, is his decision because he want to be able to continuously perform on stage. BTS dance choreographies are no joke and if you watch them perform, you won't think that Suga has an injury that he was enduring.
Suga received injections often when he performs on stage. Had his shoulder dislocated often too.
I couldn't imagine how he managed to perform despite of that. If he hadn't talked about it, fans wouldn't know that his old injury was constantly acting up. This is only a part of his hardships. He really had gone through so much shit to get where he is at right now. No wonder he is so independent. Maybe it is why he is so used to carrying his burdens alone.
"Bang Pdnim told me I've become much brighter after releasing my mixtape. He even asked me where the incisive person full of wrath from before had gone. It was my complex and the way to solve it was music that I need to make"
Agust D is Yoongi's way of healing himself and also healing people who also has struggles and is feeling hopeless.
Anyway, half a year later, after their debut (2013), his parents have shown their support to him. Suga was quite a rebel kid, as described by members and he even admitted it himself. He said, he regretted being rebellious towards his parents. Now his parents would always watch all their performances.
"An introduction to 7 members of bts" by Ida S
"This is BTS ARMY" by Xceleste
These are my recommendations.
я из России. Спасибо за реакцию на BTS - HARDSHIPS. Мне 66, я с BTS с 2015. И все, что здесь показано (очень кратко), я пережила. Это было так несправедливо! Музыка и лирика BTS буквально вытащили меня из тяжелых будней и дали мне теплую радость и ощущение единства Мира. У меня 3 детей и 3 внуков, но мальчишки из BTS мне как родные.
if you want to know more about bts and kpop, their relation, the culture, etc, check "BTS vs. K-POP: a video essay" and also other video essays on this channel!
What I love the most is that BTS has honestly never stepped on a single person in order to get where they are. They didn't have the power or money to silence or sensor anything for years, and yet no one has ever heard a single story about them being rude or treating anyone badly - only accounts of them helping literally anyone they could. People are just hateful that genuinely great people are receiving well justified popularity.
The best video to react would be "The Most Beautiful Life Goes On - The Story of BTS (UPDATED 2021)". Its an amazing video that is different from the one about BTS you have reacted and it was updated 2 days ago :)
The other Amazing video is "Who is BTS : The seven members of Bangtan INTRODUCTION". This one in other hand is also different and its about each of the member's personalities so its also interesting and informative to watch.
Hope you can watch them soon and thank you for taking your time to get to know them better.. its the most interesting part in my opinion. :)
Having been an army for around 4 and a half years now, I can sadly say that this only scratches the surface of all the discrimination and hate that has been thrown towards bts over the years. I have seen countless racist statements and shows done towards the guys. It’s so disheartening, because bts are truly just great men, trying to spread positivity. They don’t deserve any of this.
Thank you for giving chance in knowing BTS. I like your insights, hope you can react on their song lyrics.
One if it is certain is that we can see artists or people criticize BTS, but you will never see BTS criticize others. I have never seen them do that.
Rosan aka xCeleste, all ARMYs love her. Thank you for reaction her video.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Speaking about their public personas and how all the backlash affects them i recommend looking at their speeches at MAMA 2018 in Hong Kong. Especially their speech after winning 'Artist of the year', they talked about how emotionally draining that year was for them and how all the pressure was so much that they considered taking a break or even disbanding, but the love of the fans and the members themselves helped each other to overcome all of that and move forward.
Please react to The Rise of Bangtan ongoing series, is the best documentary about BTS and KPOP out there and the best part is that is from the members perspective you dont gonna regret watch that
Former Deputy was just pissed because Jimin's hair looked miles better than her own. 🤭
I am so proud of how BTS was able to block out this crap and used it to fuel their determination. They are such a beautiful example on how respectful young adults should behave. Thank you BTS for being you, in all your colors, shapes, and sizes. Thanks 😊 💜
As for yesterday, President of South Korea Moon Jae-in has appointed BTS (방탄소년단) as 'Special Presidential Envoy for Future Generations & Culture'. In this position BTS plan to attend & represent the nation in major international conferences including the 75th UN General Assembly slated for September. And me right now like a proud mom looking back to their humble journey while watching your reaction. True inspiration💜🥺
Now you know why ARMY are protective over these boys. They've been through so much and as a big family of theirs, we've seen their hardships throughout the years. It leaves such a big impression to me that they still stay positive. I stan the right group. Love Yourself.
When the analyst mentions that BTS make waves on par with Kim Yuna (If you don't know, one of the most famous Korean athletes ever) and don't get nearly as much hype by the media, it reminds me of BigHit's other boy band, TXT. They are doing very well, but they're largely VERY popular outside of Korea because they're a BigHit Entertainment group. (They've made it onto charts BTS has never hit in Europe, for example) It's a very, very complex music industry to say the least. You may have a lot of deep dives to take to get a better idea, but it's so fascinating if you're at all interested. (My area of expertise is New Media and Communication, so I'm so fascinated by how marketing works for kpop as an industry)
because of these hardships thats why BTS & ARMY only have each other. I'm glad the members have shown how much respect they have for armys, how much appreciation they have to us, and even consider us as bestfriends and family. Even us in the fandom, its a constant struggle to protect bts, other fandoms keep wanting to bring us down when we just want to peacefully support bts :') Thank God we have Bighit family, BTS and ARMY who till this day, we love and protect each other.
i like how you are doing your journey to BTS, Jim! Thank you for taking your time to know them! I know you will never ever regret it! See you on your next videos! God bless!
In Korea the Kpop world is really competitive. Therefore bands who don't have big numbers will "die out" you could say. So every BTS fan will know about the tactics of streaming, what is considered a stream etc. bc we want to get them bigger numbers bc its important!
That's why we Armys are so protective of them💜
They did nothing wrong ever😭
RE the accusations of BTS filing a lawsuit against BigHit. I remember when the headline first came out. Correct me I'm wrong, but I think the "grain of truth" buried beneath really bad journalism was that there were members consulting outside legal counsel about company contracts. While that part was true, the crucial information left out of the reporting was that BigHit themself advised the members to seek outside counsel, encouraging them to get an impartial opinion and advice, rather than just signing the contract without fully understanding it or using internal lawyers who might be seen as having a conflict of interest with how they advise the members. I don't know if that's common for labels to do in the West or not. To me, it seemed like BigHit once again having BTS' best interest at heart and giving them a good life lesson in how to protect themselves, even if it means protecting against the company (which they obviously didn't need, but you never know what the future holds and management changes could mean a shift in company culture, so having the company idols set a precedence of seeking outside legal counsel is just super smart).
Again thank you so much for taking the time to learn about this amazing group. We the ARMY are very protective of them because of what they had to go through and continue to go through. They stay humble and wonderful human beings.
Our beloved J-Hope received a lot of hate earlier in his career bc Korean netizens felt that he didn't live up to the Korean beauty standard. South Korean culture seems to have a high expectations for their Kpop idols. RM, Suga, and J-Hope were considered not to fit into those standards. Even J-Hope himself said that he looked like a horse. That broke our hearts. ARMY think that all the members are beautiful in their own ways and that they are all crazy talented. J-Hope is our dance/performance leader. He is also one of the best dancers in the business. The antis can say what they want. It's bc they're jealous. BTS has ARMY, and ARMY has BTS. We support and have each other's back. Welcome to the BTS rabbit hole!
persona wise - i find bts very interesting and unique as "celebrities" because they don't act like a typical one at all. they never, ever get mixed into "drama" and profit off of it for success and popularity like 99% of music artists today do. also, they share a lot while also not sharing much at all.. what i mean by that is they drew a clear line between what can and cannot be shared and we don't know much about their private lives at all (which is not our right in the first place), but we know and see everything about their real personalities, attitude towards life and various key topics in society, we still know them as people. they struck that balance right and that's why people root for them even though we couldn't tell you much outside of surface, basic info about their private lives. the best type of celebrity who doesn't act like a celebrity, bts just get it. that's one of the reasons we love them.
With BTS, you get curious about them but what ends up keeping you is just how interesting, talented, funny, and awesome they are as people. The music is amazing and I love it, but the guys themselves are what keep my interest. I think Tiny Desk is a good place to start - it was the first time I ever saw them. I was so surprised at how good they are live, and it led me to want to know their names. So I found that Seven Members of BTS video and checked that out, and then looked up some of the music I saw in that video, and THEN I found Run BTS, one of their variety shows, and welp... welcome to the rabbit hole. They've made a real difference in a pretty dark time in my life - given me something to focus on, people to laugh with, music to inspire me, and even new friends through meeting ARMYs from all over. They really are just a bright spot in the universe.
I know you won’t see this since there are already over 500 comments, but many of the members have written very touching songs about depression. A recent song from their pandemic album BE written by V (Kim Taehyung) called Blue & Grey is one of the most poetic explorations of depression ever composed. It is a GORGEOUS song that is ultimately comforting in its verse. The 3 rappers also contribute brilliant verses to the song. Also, Jin recently put out Abyss for fans which was based on the depression he faces. He spoke openly about receiving counseling this past year. But perhaps my favorite album about mood/mental state is mono by RM or Kim Nam Joon. In this album he finally comes to accept that he will always exist with a melancholy state of mind. It is my favorite album in the world. 💜
I suppose now you understand why Army (especially veteran ones) are a bit over protective towards BTS. It's the painful experience, we don't want them to go through it again.
I would like you to react to the "karma is an army" short videos, it lightens your heart
BTS has shared a lot of their personal lives and struggles online but what's remarkable to me is that they can still keep their most private lives (romantic relationships if any, family lives, etc) still private. They're good at walking that thin line between being vulnerable and still keeping their sanity by having part of their lives only for themselves. ARMY also calls out a lot of toxic behavior in the fandom like stalking members, etc. :)
Hi! Full on ARMY here (left a bunch of other comments as I was watching but I have somethings left to say, sorry eng isn't my first language so I'll make some mistakes) We are not a cult, or crazy, mindless people. We are individuals who enjoy good music, but we are often called derogatory slurs and insulted for supporting such amazing artists. This video is very objective, and like she said, it doesn't cover everything, it certantly doesn't cover the emotional strain and abuse that ARMY went through. I'm not trying to say we're angels, no, like I said we are individuals, and there will be toxic people no matter where you go. During those years, when BTS was abused and dragged by other fandoms, so were ARMY. Saying you were an ARMY was enough to blacklist you. Fans were being bullied on forums and in real life, by everyone. Others would pretend to be ARMY in order to stirr up fights so they could insult us. But we pulled thru. We are a massive fandom now, there are enough people in the fandom to buy the song for it to remain #1 for weeks. But we are still called kids, BTS organicness is questioned everyday. This video doesn't cover how we have to defend ourselves on a daily basis (I am not exagerating, and yes I was there) from mostly white middle aged men, who think they are industry experts, claiming BTS's success to be inorganic, a push from the industry or driven only by crazy fans. Daily. It's exausting to have to prove ourselves everyday. BTS and ARMY have been through so much, yet we are still here, we are still fighting. But why? They ask us, they can't uderstand. They don't understand how millions of people are willing to spend money on music. And honestly, I don't think they ever will. We do it out of love, we want to show our appreciation. BTS gave us a voice and a hand to grab onto when we needed them the most. They say we are chart obcessed, but they don't understand that the only reason why work so hard is because after everything, we want to make them untouchble. That is our goal, so that no one can downplay their achievments ever again. We chart because we want to spread their message, their music, and what better way is there to do that than to get them to #1 on the charts? There were times when ARMY would put QR codes and stickers on things as a way to draw new fans, to promote BTS's music. We weren't always big, but we were always passionate. We had to learn how the industry works and addapt so that no one can scam us, we created GC and entire accounts dedicated to reporting toxc people. And for what? For a Kpop band? For a band that saved my life. That makes me want to live, makes me want to be a better person. I fell in love with BTS because of them, I fell in love with ARMY because of ARMY, because ARMY is the most beautiful comunity I have ever been part of. Every day is a fight, but surronding myself with such great comrades makes me feel like I can fight till the end of my life. It's a very big and corny text but I truly feel like this. I love being ARMY, even if every time I say it someone mockes me for it, calling me obcessed. I am an individual, I just happen to be an individual with taste for music.
Thanks for your patience learning abt the boys and their origin and journey. You are doing great💜
this is exactly how i got into bts, heard butter for the first time and then decided to learn about them before diving into their songs
I can’t wait for you to react to their music. Especially the “older” stuff. I have never felt this way about any artist ever. I also will not spend my money on any other artist that doesn’t cherish me as a fan like BTS does. They have ruined me for all other concerts.
i was there when most of these things happened and it is still painful, BTS is the best thing that ever happened to me and I'm willing to support and protect them forever
Thank you for reacting to this video
Thank you for this great reaction 💜
The hamburger incident is the one thing that triggers every single army into yoongi 93 mode
As a Korean, I guess the reason data is so huge in the music culture here is based on the education system. Students in Korea are taught to 'win' with the high scores on exam, go to a good university, and become a perfect person. Even there are tutors that guides the path, like how to fill the transcript to get in to the university and what activities to do to look more attractive. It is so natural to compete with each other since age 10 or younger. To get a good grade, students always study from the morning to the midnight 24/7. This has caused Korean students' sucide rate to be the highest among the OECD countries, but it never really stops. Instead, students are getting used to the 'real world' after few years of resistance.This is also mentioned in BTS earliest songs, like No More Dream or N.O.
I truly relate to what you said about feeling protective. I too discovered BTS before hearing their music ( it was via a reality show back in 2015) and immediately recognised what precious people they were and how hard an industry such as theirs can be, not just physically but mentally as well. They had a just mission and great conduct and i felt that should be protected especially in the young. Later i delved into their songs and immediately realised all the criticisms were wrong and was just hate and bad politics. Some orchestrated by shameless people who believe in squashing others to keep their power. The standards BTS uphold for themselves and their art is top class and commendable and i cannot stress enough how hard they work and yet remain humble and mannerful.
You're right about how different BigHit is and was. The founder, Bang Si-hyuk ("Hitman" Bang) was a well-known writer and producer in South Korea, but was frustrated by how the industry was treating music as a commodity and artists as pawns. He vowed to do his best to change the entertainment industry, and he has done that with BTS. Now BigHit/HYBE is researched by companies and business analysts around the world, and the South Korean music industry big companies are slowly showing some positive signs of change.
Suga deals with depression, ocd and social anxiety. He’s been through so so much. He says his mental illness rears it’s ugly headevery couple of years. Even RM said the members worry about him and his health when he gets like that. Suga has ARMYS love and acceptance and in turn he loves his fans very much. But he still doesn’t post much on social media and loves his alone quiet time and sleep lol
they DIDNT fire that german radio host. the station DEFENDED HIM. it was RIDICULOUS.
Loved your reaction! BTS is humble indeed.💜
I love your reactions!! Thank you for reacting to BTS 💜
Thank you again for another thorough reaction and analysis 🙏☺️ it’s so comforting to watch and great to hear people like you discuss these issues.
💜💜💜 borahae!
great reaction, thank you! waiting forward to the further journey
Regarding Taehyung's grandmother - if you saw the full clip of him sharing with the audience you know she basically raised him, lived a simple life on a farm and had a loving relationship. He was away on tour at the time when he found out, it was painful obvious something was bothering him and the fans noticed - all kinds of causes were speculated about. He shared about his grandmother's loss to console his fans, so they could understand and not worry. It was cathartic and a shared loss that everyone could relate to - a brave decision because of it's sensitive subject but he trusted ARMY with his tender feelings. Mutual TRUST. When you get to learn about each member, you will come to recognize their personalities, and why these stories have become a testimony to the depth of their character, strength of their brotherhood, and supportive nature of their company. And always - hand in hand with ARMY!
Thanks for your reaction!
i love your reaction!!! sooo much💜💜 waiting....💜
Yeeeeees moor please this is cooooolllll thank yoou❤️❤️❤️
btw i’ve been a fan since 2016 and that year was really one of the most painful years as bts was rising to fame we had to battle a lot of hate from all sides back then, I remember tuning in for mama where fandoms literally turned off their light sticks when bts performed- giving them a black ocean (it’s a big thing in kpop) and a lot of photos resurfaced in the internet where fans of a certain group that lost against bts were all raising their middle fingers when bts was on stage. 2016-2017 was really one the painful years
Right now many platforms in Korea and in US have change their rules just because of BTS, Grammy, Billboard, CZcams, Spotify and music shows... all just because of the success of BTS and how big they are. But Army and BTS will continue pushing against this big labels IN AN HONEST WAY
oh i remember this german host guy... he recieved a huge backlash and armys all over the world were bringing up the issue about the racism towards asians, not only bts, for a few weeks after that because of the increased aggression due to the pandemic. he and his company tried to apologise a few times stating that he "wasn't intending to be offensive" (yeah calling them "little pissers" and "blasphemy" on air is not offensive at all) and "attempted to express his feeling in an exaggerated manner that hurt the feeling of bts' fans". they claimed it was just a joke and never realized that jokes can be racist too and can have drastic consequences, they also never realised that it wasn't exactly about hurting armys feelings. we never made it about our feelings. we were fighting the blatant anti-asian internalised racism. with every attempt to save his image the guy was burring himself even further, saying he can't be called racist because he uses a korean car (it was japanese) as if it was enough to seem respectful towards the nation; saying he just underestimated armys power, along the way calling us "fanatical followers of a musical cash machine" that "distorted his statements" by the "currently very popular racist stick". it was a mess. a mess that perfectly shows you what kind of environment bts and army have to deal with regularly, because every month there's someone new who wants to assault or downgrade bts. just recently they've been called "a new act", on their 8th year of career with a constant presence in the us charts and at that point 4 number one Billboard songs that places them in one line with such names as Ariana Grande. it's terrifying to say how many articles there are liking bts' success to the image of kpop (when kpop industry has done everything to drown bts), disrespecting, misgendering, missnaming, dismissing their talents, music, message. all BTS get is skepticism about their work, talent and ambitions
this brings so many self-doubt to the boys
from a weverse article (magazine.weverse.io/article/view?lang=en&num=62 ):
"So you’ve started to ask yourself who you are as a musician?"
RM: I listened to Lee So-ra’s seventh album again today. I keep changing my mind but, if I had to pick between her sixth and seventh album, I like her seventh a little more. And then I listen to the most popular songs on Billboard, and I feel kind of thrown off. Um… There’s something Whanki Kim said that’s been running around in my head lately: After moving to New York, he embraced the style of artists like Mark Rothko and Adolf Gottlieb, but then he said, “I’m Korean, and I can’t do anything not Korean. I can’t do anything apart from this, because I am an outsider.” And I keep thinking that way, too. That’s my main concern lately.
bts have often been criticized for speaking or not speaking a foreign language in an English dominated industry. In their post supporting the #StopAsianHate movement, they
shared how: "We recall moments when we faced discrimination as Asians. We have endured expletives without reason and were mocked for the way we look. We were even asked why Asians speak in English".
from a Time Entertainers of the Year article (time.com/entertainer-of-the-year-2020-bts/ ):
RM: As kpop is becoming bigger we should have some debates. What is Kpop? For our “Dynamite,” we sang the whole lyrics for the first time in English and that hit number one (Billboard). So some might say that this is not Kpop because you guys all sang in English. But what’s Kpop? We just don’t want to limit this music or our hearts to this boundary called “Kpop.”
from the Rolling Stone article (www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/new-bts-song-2021-worlds-biggest-band-1166441/ ):
BTS’ downright magical levels of charisma, their genre-defying, sleek-but-personal music, even their casually nontoxic, skin-care-intensive brand of masculinity - every bit of it feels like a visitation from some brighter, more hopeful timeline. What RM is currently pondering, however, is how all of it contrasts with a darker landscape all around them, particularly the horrifying recent wave of anti-Asian violence and discrimination across a global diaspora.
“We are outliers,” says RM, “and we came into the American music market and enjoyed this incredible success.” In 2020, seven years into their career, BTS’ first English-language single, the irresistible “Dynamite,” hit Number One, an achievement so singular it prompted a congratulatory statement from South Korea’s president, Moon Jae-in. The nation has long been deeply invested in its outsize cultural success beyond its borders, known as the Korean Wave.
“Now, of course, there is no utopia,” RM continues. “There’s a light side; there’s always going to be a dark side. The way we think is that everything that we do, and our existence itself, is contributing to the hope for leaving this xenophobia, these negative things, behind. It’s our hope, too, that people in the minority will draw some energy and strength from our existence. Yes, there’s xenophobia, but there are also a lot of people who are very accepting. The fact that we have faced success in the United States is very meaningful in and of itself.”
the anger that you've felt is what we feel too. but i understand that changing the way of thinking will take time and our work right now is to address the problem when we see one
Estou amando suas reações. Ansiosa pela próxima 💜
About getting tv broadcast time when they started, TV is a really major part of the kpop music scene, including artists going on variety shows and the like. The big agencies in some cases actually threatened to pull their own stars if BTS members were cast!
Edit: what you were saying about making music about one’s depression, and reliving that emotion every time you perform or listen to that song, Jimin has a song (which is one of my absolute favourites) which he has said he doesn’t like performing because of the emotions associated with it.
Edit 2: regarding analytics and competition - this is absolutely true. It’s something quite different from western music industry. Even individual members of groups are assigned a ‘Brand Reputation Ranking’ relating to their ‘market value’. Btw, Jimin is #1 and has been for the last 31 months straight.