James Hunt blames Alain Prost for 1990 Suzuka crash with Ayrton Senna

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  • @danw5760
    @danw5760 Před měsícem +730

    This standard of discussion is so superior to what we have now

    • @steveb6718
      @steveb6718 Před měsícem +73

      can't discuss things with liberals, transgenders, socialists or people who hate white exceptionalism

    • @jackayres1569
      @jackayres1569 Před měsícem +13

      @danw5760 Great comment

    • @freedomisslavery6840
      @freedomisslavery6840 Před měsícem +68

      The level of intellect in society has massively deteriorated.

    • @steveb6718
      @steveb6718 Před měsícem

      @@freedomisslavery6840 smartphones, porn, endless sport, communist education centers called schools = a generation of utter morons

    • @TheBroz
      @TheBroz Před měsícem

      @@steveb6718 Not quite sure what any of them have to do with this video, snowflake.

  • @markwilliams7091
    @markwilliams7091 Před měsícem +399

    This is the first time I've seen this. Total respect for Hunt's opinion.

    • @truantray
      @truantray Před měsícem +14

      Hunt actually had a history of attacking drivers incorrectly. He absolutely vilified Riccardo Patrese for the Monza 78 crash when in fact he had no idea that the race was started incorrectly. As a commentator, he was a complete hypocrite criticizing other drivers when he himself was known as ”Hunt the Shunt" by his contemporaries. The reality is after a very lucky championship off the misfortune of Lauda, he did little/nothing after 76, very unlike Lauda.
      Still, nice to see a time when TV commentators and drivers were allowed to be opinionated. From the 90s, F1 got just a little worse every year until we are left with the unwatchable farce of today.

    • @markwilliams7091
      @markwilliams7091 Před měsícem +15

      @@truantray Lauda is on the record on numerous occasions stating his total respect for the professionalism of Hunt's driving. You undermine all of your criticisms w/ this "Hunt the Shunt" silliness. It rhymes. That doesn't make it true.

    • @dickieb2233
      @dickieb2233 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@truantrayWhilst James was a wild card in the car he had an insight from the commentary box that was a first until that point. After watching the playback shown, I have to agree that The Professor turned in too early.
      Agree, Eff one is unwatchable these days.

    • @ErwinGreven
      @ErwinGreven Před měsícem +1

      @@truantray And don't start about how he thought about French drivers. Like Alain Prost ....

    • @rafaelmartinmeuldijk6030
      @rafaelmartinmeuldijk6030 Před měsícem +5

      It was clearly The Facts Alain Prost was Wrong !...And Senna was right . Not to speak of Prost Was very close with the boss of f1 these days.
      QUOTE! " There is Only One Right Decision, AND that is My Dicision !"
      The BEST Formule One 80s 90s Never coming back !

  • @doric_historic
    @doric_historic Před měsícem +296

    Hunt telling Walker he did not listen to Senna's comment, faaaaaaantastic!

    • @titanent.6897
      @titanent.6897 Před měsícem +19

      Hunt is right. Murray didn't listen. Y is that fantastic? Hunt was just trying to wake Murray up to the truth of the situation and not the b.s. side the rest of the media had spun.

    • @dacianmortocean5774
      @dacianmortocean5774 Před měsícem +14

      We know that Murray did not like Senna

    • @assininecomment1630
      @assininecomment1630 Před měsícem

      We also know that Walker barely even listened to _himself,_ @@dacianmortocean5774- much less, seriously consider the crucial statements of any other relevant people. 😆

    • @TheElite1102
      @TheElite1102 Před 29 dny +6

      Walker was a declared Prost fan and he'd go over the top praising him when he was untouchable in 85 & 86.

    • @largol33t12
      @largol33t12 Před 27 dny +8

      ​@@dacianmortocean5774booohoooo. Not everyone likes Senna. Get over it.

  • @mikulitsi1819
    @mikulitsi1819 Před měsícem +311

    Got to love James Hunt. What a shame he and Senna aren't here with us today seeing the current F1

    • @AlanMcB
      @AlanMcB  Před měsícem +47

      Imagine what they would think of F1 nowadays... lol

    • @freedomisslavery6840
      @freedomisslavery6840 Před měsícem +29

      I'd say its a blessing that neither of them are with us to see the utter state of the racing today. Can you imagine what they would think about DRS, V6 Hybrids etc?

    • @AlanMcB
      @AlanMcB  Před měsícem +22

      @@freedomisslavery6840 And the penalties they dish out nowadays.

    • @mirial2108
      @mirial2108 Před měsícem +57

      @@freedomisslavery6840 What's laughable about F1 is the now sizeable following it has. The cars are awful: they're just moving sim-rigs. They have no rear brakes (probably because as the wheelbase is that of a London bus, they'd spin off if they had some), they don't rotate, they stay planted, almost all the liveries look like they've been done by teenagers, DRS has reduced passing to be just routine, the tracks are much of a muchness, the drivers have no opinion. The soul and the romance has gone. I'm glad I saw it in much better times (1986- circa 2010) when live qualifying and live races were free as well!

    • @AlanMcB
      @AlanMcB  Před měsícem +11

      @@mirial2108 You've summed it up perfectly there.

  • @DarylLewis
    @DarylLewis Před měsícem +222

    Where on Earth did you find this gem!?
    I thought I knew my 80s / 90s F1 inside out but in my life I’ve never seen this video of Hunt / Walker.
    What a find. 👏🏼

    • @rm3266
      @rm3266 Před měsícem +7

      It’s from the 1992 preview show. It’s on CZcams.

  • @reds005
    @reds005 Před měsícem +96

    Walker and Hunt every race. We never had it so good.

  • @richhowe7193
    @richhowe7193 Před měsícem +27

    I’m so glad that James changed his opinion on the 89 incident. He said at the time during race commentary that it was Senna’s fault and i always thought that he held this belief, which I found incredible as James was usually on the money with race craft. Might be insignificant to some but seeing this has made my day.

    • @John-mi2rt
      @John-mi2rt Před měsícem +3

      To be fair he changed his opinion on the incident during his live commentary

  • @onkouth
    @onkouth Před 14 dny +5

    This the first time I've seen this, which is odd considering how big a fan i was during this period. James was absolutely 100% correct in his assessment of what transpired here. It was shameful what Prost and Belestre had done to Senna and yet Ayrton is often vilified for that accident. Huge respect to James Hunt, he was an incredible driver and everything he said is proven right by simply watching these clips. RIP to some of our racing heroes Ayrton, Roland, Jules and of course, James ❤

  • @42much1
    @42much1 Před měsícem +171

    Both replays show that he is absolutely right!

    • @aberamagold7509
      @aberamagold7509 Před měsícem

      Hunt was always right.
      When it came to racing.

    • @KapitanPisoar1
      @KapitanPisoar1 Před měsícem +19

      No he is not

    • @cristianocarrilloso3343
      @cristianocarrilloso3343 Před měsícem +11

      Indeed! True F1 fans knows better that James Hunt is right! Some idiot here still can't take the facts.

    • @KapitanPisoar1
      @KapitanPisoar1 Před měsícem +9

      @@cristianocarrilloso3343 James Hunt said many things, and just because he ended up winning a title by accident doesn’t mean that everything he said is a fact. Senna was a dirty driver and just because Hunt likes him and dislikes Prost doesn’t change it. And I don’t which one of us acts like an id..t

    • @bnice9810
      @bnice9810 Před měsícem +16

      @@KapitanPisoar1by accident 😂 man drove in the days where you got killed or burned up from a crash around a soaking wet track and managed to hold his nerve and finish to win the championship when others couldn’t do it, that’s what makes a champ

  • @clintjohnson2245
    @clintjohnson2245 Před měsícem +218

    The professor who hardly ever touched a kerb when he raced managed to turn into senna 15metres before the chicane. What a mistake!

    • @simonkevnorris
      @simonkevnorris Před měsícem +31

      That was 1989 - the conversation is about 1990 where Senna finally admitted to taking Prost out a year later.

    • @VjRj84
      @VjRj84 Před měsícem +44

      @@simonkevnorris 89 is where this conversation starts. 1990 only happened because of it.

    • @josephfreda6316
      @josephfreda6316 Před měsícem +28

      @@VjRj84 89 only happened because Senna thought Prost would jump out of the way for him as other drivers had. Prost was tired of it so gave him a taste of his own medicine. I respect both drivers though of course

    • @pjay3028
      @pjay3028 Před měsícem +7

      Exactly, because it wasn't a mistake. That's the very point.

    • @VjRj84
      @VjRj84 Před měsícem +35

      @@josephfreda6316 no need to jump out the way, just do a wide turn. It doesnt matter, prost turned 15 meters before the normal line, let alone the normal or wide one. Try again.

  • @johnpalumbo6960
    @johnpalumbo6960 Před měsícem +126

    thank you for uploading this! So little James Hunt content out there besides his commentaries.. I'm still as gutted at his loss as I was 30+ years ago

    • @jamestrimbee8278
      @jamestrimbee8278 Před 28 dny +1

      I remember being surprised at myself at the news. I was so upset about it. I had just watched Canada '93 too.

    • @joeycusack8314
      @joeycusack8314 Před 8 dny

      Me too. Still the best commentary team.

  • @thatguyfromcetialphaV
    @thatguyfromcetialphaV Před měsícem +61

    I grew up with F1 in the 80s and 90s. We didn't know how good we had it compared to what passes as our sport now...

    • @pixelwings821
      @pixelwings821 Před 17 dny +2

      I could not agree more. It is tragical really, and I feel that way about most motorsports now.

    • @Navpo01
      @Navpo01 Před 11 dny +2

      I miss 90s F1 😢

  • @PapaOfGags
    @PapaOfGags Před měsícem +38

    Taken too soon, Ayrton had an aura inside & outside of the car.
    R.I.P. you legend.

    • @melb.1906
      @melb.1906 Před měsícem +4

      💔😭

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire Před měsícem

      Senna was a crash driver. Complete idiot.

    • @johnnytopgun6414
      @johnnytopgun6414 Před měsícem

      and Mr Hunt around the same time unfortunately

    • @PapaOfGags
      @PapaOfGags Před měsícem

      @@johnnytopgun6414
      Yes Johnny agree.

  • @nileaoux
    @nileaoux Před měsícem +33

    Suzuka 1990 was always to end the way it did. No man was ready to give an inch

  • @C_and_C...
    @C_and_C... Před měsícem +84

    I like James Hunt & he was absolutely straight to the point but he certainly changed his tune on Suzuka 1989. On the original broadcast he blamed Senna for the collision.
    Great chat between Murray & Hunt though, I've never seen it before.

    • @fading_trails
      @fading_trails Před měsícem +5

      "... the year before Prost drove into him, without any doubt at all, at the hairpin in Japan."
      Is Hunt mixing up chicanes with hairpins or was there another incident at the hairpin?

    • @MrToddness
      @MrToddness Před měsícem +10

      From memory, and I could be wrong but I think he blamed Senna for 1989 crash because Senna put himself in a vulnerable position that Prost was always going to take advantage of, and well, he did. Either way, I see it that Prost and Balestre got their just desserts in 1990!

    • @technounion1892
      @technounion1892 Před měsícem +22

      Hunt didn't change his tune. On the Suzuka '89 broadcast he said that Prost turned into Senna, which he maintains in this interview. The Senna blame you're referring to was Hunt's comment on the Suzuka '89 broadcast that Senna was at fault for ending his own championship, as he should have known Prost would have turned in on him. Hunt never actually said Senna caused the crash.

    • @VjRj84
      @VjRj84 Před měsícem +5

      @@fading_trails prost took senna out a year before when he was getting overtaken by senna. Then ran to ballestre to get senna DQ.

    • @cardiffgiant9406
      @cardiffgiant9406 Před měsícem +7

      @@technounion1892 But didn't Hunt say something to the effect that Prost 'had every right' to turn into the corner? Admittedly that was before the overhead view was shown.

  • @1970PMD
    @1970PMD Před 25 dny +24

    I've been saying the same thing since 1989. The facts are indisputable unless you are a Prost fanatic in which case is useless to try to explain. 1989 helicopter view of the incident at Suzuka clearly illustrates based on prior laps by Prost, the entry into the turn of the incident was completely different and done by Prost to avoid getting passed by Senna. Prost triumphantly jumped out his car thinking it was over but got schooled once again by Senna. Balestre took care of the rest. 1990 again, Prost clearly shuts the path for Senna to race, resulting in a high speed crash. Balestre made sure Senna was on the dirty side of the track. Well spoken Mr. Hunt. Truth prevails.

    • @SennaStar
      @SennaStar Před 6 dny +3

      I've been saying the same thing too since 1989. I hope Prost is happy in his skin as he gets older..
      None of us are here forever and we are all responsible for how we live our lives..
      Balestre is long gone and I hope he turns in his grave..
      Ayrton Senna is the GOAT and god bless your soul Ayrton wherever you are ...

    • @casualxxgamerxx9662
      @casualxxgamerxx9662 Před dnem

      That's all well and good except the pole had been on that side every year. Senna argued that it should be changed, but the FIA had no reason to go and make that change with 24 hours to go.
      Senna was 100% to blame for 1990 as was Prost for the one in 1989.
      You can have your favourite driver, but there's no need to be biased, it just makes you an unreliable source of information and any argument and / or debate you wish to have completely null and void.
      Yes, I dislike Prost and Like Senna.

    • @1970PMD
      @1970PMD Před dnem

      @@casualxxgamerxx9662 We can agree to disagree. My opinion is the same as Hunt's on the 1990 incident. Prost is 100% to blame. Cheers.

  • @peterivanac7359
    @peterivanac7359 Před měsícem +78

    You know what, I actually agree now.

    • @Mystipaoniz
      @Mystipaoniz Před měsícem +2

      nah, not me. I'm not fan of either pilot. I agree that the Suzuka chicane, Prost could have avoided the crash. We clearly see he's turning earlier than normal. But the first turn, the year after...Senna doesn't budge. They are both to blame and it's ok.
      Two racers of this magnitude competing against each other, of course there will be trouble at some point ^^
      That's what's awesome! Agreed? ^^

    • @VjRj84
      @VjRj84 Před měsícem +7

      @@Mystipaoniz whats your point then? 1990 only happened because of the year before, so yeah, like hunt explained to you, prost is the bad guy in this.

    • @DarylLewis
      @DarylLewis Před měsícem

      @@Mystipaonizagreed!

    • @CertifiedSlamboy
      @CertifiedSlamboy Před měsícem +3

      @@VjRj84but that’s not what Hunt says.
      He says that in both instances Prost caused the collision.
      I disagree with this. Sure, Prost caused 89 and you could argue that “he started it” and that, in turn caused Senna to do what he did in 90.
      But 90 was clearly more on Senna. Therefore Prost wasn’t at fault for 90.
      So Hunt is wrong on that part.

    • @VjRj84
      @VjRj84 Před měsícem +6

      @@CertifiedSlamboy he isnt saying senna didnt take him out, he is saying alain couldve done the turn on the outside(of course he wouldnt). And its true that ayrton was on the curb on the moment of impact. He is saying alain didnt avoid a crash either.

  • @theakyosmith
    @theakyosmith Před měsícem +60

    Hats off to James Hunt for making things clear. I have to say that I love whe he says "He did not!" when Walker said Senna said he crashed Alain's car.
    Got to love James Hunt.

    • @user-sy8rw9vi2f
      @user-sy8rw9vi2f Před měsícem +1

      James was wrong... it happens...
      Senna said 1 year after that he intentionnaly crashed Prost in 90...
      End of discussion i think.

    • @M4ver1ck01
      @M4ver1ck01 Před 21 dnem

      @@user-sy8rw9vi2fProst was equal to blame plus it’s racing you want these things to happen otherwise to get todays pussy f1

  • @theiceman7590
    @theiceman7590 Před měsícem +25

    I never knew James Hunt changed his stance on the Suzuka title deciders. Is this interview in 1991? Wow

  • @krisverstraelen9774
    @krisverstraelen9774 Před měsícem +145

    James is right

    • @juventinos81
      @juventinos81 Před měsícem +2

      No,he isnt.You just agree with him.

    • @RichardHartley65
      @RichardHartley65 Před měsícem

      Senna was the best driver of his era and is my favourite of all time, but I think his clashes with Prost at Suzuka diminished his reputation. He was definitely in the wrong in 1990 and the year before was 50/50 at best. Yes, of course, Ballestre was manipulating things to jeopardise Senna, but that still didn’t justify what Ayrton did at the first corner in 1990.

    • @krisverstraelen9774
      @krisverstraelen9774 Před měsícem

      @@juventinos81 no I don't but he's right!

    • @ysgol3
      @ysgol3 Před měsícem

      @@juventinos81 LOL - yes, spot on - just opinions!

    • @144ADT
      @144ADT Před 14 dny

      @@RichardHartley65The facts are plain. Look at the overheads of each incident it is clear that Prost initiated and forced both conflicts. The only thing that Senna was guilty of was not backing down. Prost deliberately drove into Senna knowing full well that Senna wouldn’t back down and Belestre would rule in his favor. Prost is a typical elitist French pr**k. He is so sure of his own superiority that he is going around even to this day whining that he isn’t given enough praise. His first reaction to any issue was to run to Belestre and hide behind his mommies apron. Not to mention that he looks like an uglier version of Arnold Horshack from Welcome Back Kotter. Yes, certainly he was a very talented driver. He legitimately won 3 WDC’s but it doesn’t change the fact that is an insufferable c**t.

  • @adamclarke7394
    @adamclarke7394 Před měsícem +16

    A piece of video footage that I never knew existed vindicates my long-held view. I had always believed that Prost caused the chicane accident by turning in early, and the replays showed that. I feel honored to share the same opinion as the great James Hunt, and I wish he was around today to add spice to what are some pretty bland "expert" opinions. Thank you for posting this.

    • @MrRodzilla
      @MrRodzilla Před měsícem +2

      i think its pretty common to believe prost caused the 89 collision, but definitely senna caused the 1990 accident

    • @dmtc6913
      @dmtc6913 Před 27 dny

      ​@@MrRodzillawell I also thought that but he does go well inside to the grass.. maybe too little too late but prost would have been better off going a bit wider

    • @bojandolinar1535
      @bojandolinar1535 Před 7 dny

      ​@@dmtc6913 Look at the pair behind Prost and Senna. Mansell realized very soon he could not possibly take such a fast corner by going completely on the inside, so he backed up a bit and turned to the left. Senna (and Prost) realized that, too, but Senna's plan was not to make a corner. And had Prost known that was not his plan, he would have gone a bit wider.

  • @musculusiv4172
    @musculusiv4172 Před měsícem +12

    These two really look like the perfect pairing. The hot headed no-bs ex racer / champion and the very reserved, diplomatic and polite veteran gentleman-commentator

  • @janikakis
    @janikakis Před 14 dny +2

    Greatest F1 commentary duo of all time.

  • @xtn-gw4xe
    @xtn-gw4xe Před měsícem +64

    I used to think that Senna was the villain but James Hunt who is a a real F1 driver, and knows what it takes to be a World Champion has changed my mind.
    They don't breed 'em like James Hunt and Senna anymore, they were a man's man

    • @melb.1906
      @melb.1906 Před měsícem +4

      ❤🫶

    • @peterf1
      @peterf1 Před měsícem +2

      Love JH, but this is a case no matter who you are, you will form a very logical conclusion... that differs from someone else's very logical conclusion. Prost had every right to turn in during both corners. Just because someone wedges a wheel 'underneath' you, doesn't mean you must yield the corner to them. Hunt once drove Andretti literally off the race track at Zandvoort with this understanding.

    • @RobAustinonyoutube
      @RobAustinonyoutube Před měsícem +3

      @@peterf1 You cant turn if in if there is a car alongside you, he had no right turning in! And in 1989, why else would Prost be turning in dramatically early for the corner if it wasn't to drive in to Senna? Unless he was aiming to drive 4 wheels over the grass on the inside of the corner...
      I'm actually more of a Prost fan than Senna but Hunt is absolutely correct and these are just facts

    • @peterf1
      @peterf1 Před měsícem +3

      @@RobAustinonyoutube Of course you can turn in. These are poor "F3" tactics brought to F1. This is merely "yield to me or there will be an accident" rubbish racing. It used to be either you "took" a corner, or you had the racing education to back off. Senna helped move the lower formula tendencies to force drivers to choose between an accident, or accept an inferior maneuver to succeed. It's been well documented and it's not my accusation. It's a shame as Senna was a massive talent, but he, like Michael had a tendency to resort to dirty racing.

    • @RobAustinonyoutube
      @RobAustinonyoutube Před měsícem +1

      Imagine Prost had left a cars width on the apex in both of those situations. There would have been no crash and he actually would have probably kept the position, at least for that moment.
      Anyway. Whether Senna was right to dive up the inside at the chicane or not makes no difference. Porst turned accross the track to hit him! He wasnt taking his normal racing line and just turning in to the corner

  • @henshin587
    @henshin587 Před měsícem +14

    Footage of older James Hunt is rear, especially one as valuable as this one. A popular opinion arose that Senna admited going into Prost, but there is no evidence of that. You can clearly see that Prost goes into him both times, in Suzuki he even tries to avoid collision by going onto a curb....Prost was shaken and furious with Senna, and simply could think straight in those situations.

  • @chicobicalho5621
    @chicobicalho5621 Před měsícem +6

    James Hunt was an enormous loss. I do wonder how a 77 year old Hunt would comment today, because there is no doubt in my mind it would be as witty, funny, and as entertaining as always. Like calling Murray Walker "an idiot" to his face on live Television, as he did right here.

  • @LukeVesty
    @LukeVesty Před měsícem +3

    I love how yesterday's ruffian is today's gentleman. Hunt sounds as well spoken as anyone I've ever heard.

  • @mikesouter
    @mikesouter Před měsícem +20

    I'm glad that I have eventually seen this as I didn't see this interview at the time. I have always maintained exactly what James is saying. I was a Prost fan until that chicane coming together in 89 and became all Senna after that. In 90 I thought Senna had just taken Prost out until I looked carefully at the footage and saw Senna taking to the curb. Says it all.

    • @CertifiedSlamboy
      @CertifiedSlamboy Před měsícem +3

      I respectfully disagree. It doesn’t matter if you take to the kerb.
      He was behind and going into a closing gap.
      Prost has the right to take that line and Senna should yield.
      He didn’t and he went onto the kerb a bit then still took Prost out.

    • @juventinos81
      @juventinos81 Před měsícem

      The only thing that we understood is that you have 0 idea about racing,racing lines,overtakes and divebombs.

  • @lorrainewhyte2296
    @lorrainewhyte2296 Před 5 dny +1

    I miss them both terribly. An absolute golden age of F1 commentary.

  • @malhotraroger9106
    @malhotraroger9106 Před měsícem +9

    Always loved watching him race and listening to him commentating. RIP .

  • @jakemarcus9999
    @jakemarcus9999 Před měsícem +12

    This is the best part of F1. You can argue about these situations forever 😅

  • @josexavierneto
    @josexavierneto Před měsícem +2

    There you go. For all to see. Perfect edition. Perfect reasoning. Sincere and quite obvious conclusion. It is rare to see character in this world. A rare specimen in his side of the world indeed.

  • @karagoddess3328
    @karagoddess3328 Před 5 dny

    OMG I LOVE THIS. I cannot believe this gem of an interview isnt more widely spread

  • @Jimburgess1977
    @Jimburgess1977 Před 12 dny +1

    I used to love watching f1 when these two were commentators on bbc. Prost, senna, mansell, patresi, allesi etc greatest days of the sport imo

  • @kokhueing9533
    @kokhueing9533 Před měsícem +3

    This is the first time i get to realise how does James Hunt looks like in 90s

  • @m.a.2407
    @m.a.2407 Před měsícem +4

    Thank you for upload. Enjoyed very much. Especially James Hunt

  • @theakyosmith
    @theakyosmith Před měsícem +15

    "There are evidences. It's not a question of view, there are evidences!"
    Slap

  • @mks4682
    @mks4682 Před měsícem +3

    Never seen this before but JH highlighted a very good fact , these 2 commentators were very different but together they were the best

  • @jonelsorel
    @jonelsorel Před měsícem +37

    I've just seen this for the first time in 2024. Hunt is the only person I've heard in 34 years, from the sport or from the press, that is able to comment on Suzuka 89 and 90 with an objective analysis of the facts that goes beyond personal preference and Walker's silly attemps to polarize. Walker puts the cherry on top with his kindergarten answer at the end, visibly upset by the "idiotic press" comment. Press which to this day is more interested in polarizing people on Senna and Prost than anything else.

    • @brendanbrown3100
      @brendanbrown3100 Před měsícem +2

      Er no - I’d take Jackie Stewart’s view over Hunt’s - and I think Hunt was a great driver!

    • @buckfaststradler4629
      @buckfaststradler4629 Před měsícem

      @@brendanbrown3100 Sir Jackie was also a great driver but , as Max Mosley once said, he's a "self certified half-wit" - opens his mouth and lets his belly rumble.

    • @brendanbrown3100
      @brendanbrown3100 Před měsícem +1

      @@buckfaststradler4629 You’re relying on the words ofMax Mosley lol - buff said!

    • @buckfaststradler4629
      @buckfaststradler4629 Před měsícem

      @@brendanbrown3100 No ! It’s Sir Jackie’s words which prove Mosleys point.

    • @brendanbrown3100
      @brendanbrown3100 Před měsícem +1

      @@buckfaststradler4629 what words? - Jackie Stewart has done more for F1 than anyone else I can think of. I know Max tried to take credit for safety but it Jackie who took all the slings and arrows in the 70s when trying to get circuit owners to replace straw bales with armco barriers. You know this tho don’t you as an F1 expert?

  • @STRAKKERSTECHNO
    @STRAKKERSTECHNO Před 29 dny

    Brilliant thank you for this upload 🙏🏽James hunt gone way to early 😞

  • @JamesHunt0207
    @JamesHunt0207 Před měsícem +4

    Thanks for this excellent video !

  • @hugoagogo9435
    @hugoagogo9435 Před měsícem +29

    Proper commentators with passion for the sport. Prost to blame 89. Senna to blame 90. Simple as that. But good to see a real F1 discussion. Been a few years since there’s been one of those on tv

    • @igotmyheadstuckinapumpkin5154
      @igotmyheadstuckinapumpkin5154 Před měsícem +6

      Hunt is wrong. About '89 you can argue as Senna put himself on the penalty spot at Casio triangle. In '90 he clearly and deliberately eliminated Prost in turn 1. As revenge for' 89 and on Balestre over starting from the dirty line from pole in '90. Senna has admitted this himself years later to Jacky Stewart.

    • @crazyRCSC
      @crazyRCSC Před měsícem +1

      @@igotmyheadstuckinapumpkin5154 Senna did not confess to Jacky Stewart that he took Prost out of the race. These were statements made by Jacky Stewart regarding Senna's alleged confession to him. Since Senna is not here today to confirm or deny Stewart's claims, it remains uncertain. Additionally, it is evident from Stewart's comments on various occasions that he never liked Senna.

    • @hexgraphica
      @hexgraphica Před 18 dny

      ​@@crazyRCSCMr safety in F1 never liked a driver who is broadly praised for his unsafe moves? It's not a surprise

  • @edivadoccirb8512
    @edivadoccirb8512 Před měsícem +25

    I think Cristian Bale would be perfect for a movie on James Hunt

    • @Lavaman3682
      @Lavaman3682 Před měsícem +1

      Interesting....

    • @himthatis6698
      @himthatis6698 Před 29 dny +2

      I noticed the similarity as well. And thought he would have looked a better choice than Chris Hemsworth. Was happy to see your comment.

    • @sandrinedefaux3290
      @sandrinedefaux3290 Před 29 dny

      Rush 2 about Prost/Senna rivalry, Christian Bale playing a cameo of the older James Hunt .
      That would be awesome !

    • @josephguillerey4391
      @josephguillerey4391 Před 29 dny

      @@sandrinedefaux3290 and if we start the movie in 84, we might have a cameo of Brühl as well

    • @cobrakaier238
      @cobrakaier238 Před 13 dny

      I always thought that Chris Hemsworth was an odd choice but I can see the resemblance in this video. Bale would be also Ok and he is British, doesn't need a dialect coach.

  • @KevinShoreHealthyEating
    @KevinShoreHealthyEating Před 28 dny +1

    I grew up with formula 1 in the 80's and 90's. Prost and Senna were amazing. Fair play to James Hunt speaking his mind. I remember on his commentary in 89 he said Senna went for a gap that wasn't there, but with the replay of the aerial shot, Prost clearly turns in way too early.

  • @sarah-ws2tg
    @sarah-ws2tg Před měsícem +5

    This is brilliant and thank you so, so much for posting👍👍
    I remember all these years later watching this crash live and saw then that Prost had turned in way too soon. However, this was only clear on the one replay which you have provided here. This is only the second time I have ever seen this replay, the first being straight after the accident so I’m genuinely thankful for you posting it…especially after so many years have passed…bloody well done👍👍
    Sundays have never been the same since, when you could sit down and enjoy watching sheer brilliance at work. Like Hunt used to say, “Tremendous stuff.”
    This replay was ‘somehow’ omitted from almost ever being shown again as Senna was so devisive a character.
    Still miss him every race day, but truly incredible memories.
    We are blessed so rarely with absolute brilliance, Senna being one such example along with a Mozart, Ali, Cleopatra…
    They will always be remembered and spoken of, long after they’ve passed…
    Thank you once again🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @357eea
    @357eea Před měsícem +3

    Wonderful commentary. I completely agree with Hunt. Prost initiated the contact on both occasions.

    • @josiewallace7968
      @josiewallace7968 Před 21 dnem

      No he didn't. I'm a Senna fan but the great man admitted that if he couldn't get into Turn 1 in the lead then neither would Prost

  • @MIKandJEAN
    @MIKandJEAN Před měsícem +14

    James is right and the evidence is there if you listen to the BBC live race feed that Murray also blamed Prost straight away when the two McLaren's locked wheels. Murray later changed his mind...

    • @samtorr3947
      @samtorr3947 Před měsícem +1

      I don't think Walker did change his mind, he was a commentator and in this scenario an interviewer who needed to ask questions that would allow Hunt to provide eloquent answers.

    • @MIKandJEAN
      @MIKandJEAN Před měsícem +1

      @@samtorr3947 Murray would always stick to the post race "official" out come regardless of who or what was to blame or at fault. But this one time he correctly blamed Prost when it happen which makes interviews about the subject just a little more difficult to watch if Murray is in them. We all love Murray though, just pointing out what he once thought. 🙂

  • @1982craigyboy
    @1982craigyboy Před 4 dny

    I just found this thanks to CZcams’s algorithm and I have said that exact thing about the famous 1990 incident since it happened and it baffled me how everyone said otherwise. It’s annoyed me for decades and finally I have a very respected person to call on to back my argument up. This is getting sent to a few people now lol! These 2 gents were fantastic, F1 will never be the same without them

  • @luliluli1471
    @luliluli1471 Před 20 dny

    These were the days F1 racing was truly interesting and authentic. Not only proper rancing drivers but also proper commentary and broadcasting. Hunt telling the great Murray off is epic. Two absolutely great icons of the sport and above all, true gentlemen.

  • @bravo1821
    @bravo1821 Před 3 dny +1

    That’s the difference between someone who did it and someone who just make commentaries. Agree with Hunt.

  • @tonypap1
    @tonypap1 Před měsícem +1

    I remember this chat. 1992 season preview on Sportsnight ❤

  • @PatMann-mu9st
    @PatMann-mu9st Před měsícem +1

    Just love how tough James Hunt was. Just wow!!!!

    • @jameshogan6142
      @jameshogan6142 Před měsícem

      Yes he was teak tough. Anyone that drove in the 1970's was really taking his life in his hands.

  • @sohmm7732
    @sohmm7732 Před měsícem +4

    both prost and senna were incredibly cunning, but at the same time their driving styles were completely different, and that's what i love about their rivalry. even though it was way before my time, looking back on it now, it still feels like two of the greatest drivers the sport had ever seen, who despite being almost polar opposites driving wise, could still push each other to their extremes, both on and off the track. personally, i think suzuka 1989 was definitely caused by prost, but i think it's also a little bit justified by him wanting to give senna a taste of his own medicine by using his aggressive 'yield or crash' driving style against him. in the 1990 incident, i guess you could argue that it was 50-50, but if senna is completely without fault like hunt is claiming here, i don't understand why senna went off on that "if you don't go for a gap" explanation in his infamous interview with jackie stewart after the race. surely that sounds like he was trying to justify his overly aggressive antics at the start there? it doesn't really make sense to me, but oh well, i respect another opinion, and i think it's awesome that this is still being debated today, because it's such a controversial and complex incident, where a lot of the finer details have been mostly lost to time, so it's natural for different people to view it from different perspectives all these years later.

  • @TheGolfgti200
    @TheGolfgti200 Před 18 dny

    These two men did just as much for the sport we love than the battles on track in them days,oh how I wish we had the same level on competition today

  • @timlatham777
    @timlatham777 Před 27 dny +1

    This must have been one of the times Murray spoke about when he wanted to punch Hunt in the face.

  • @philwoodward5069
    @philwoodward5069 Před měsícem +2

    Gotta love James Hunt.
    Yes, James, he drove onto the kerb so as to make sure he fired Prost off the road rather than hit him from behind which (a) might only have punctured his rear tyre without necessarily taking him off and (b) would have eliminated any plausible deniability.
    Problem is if you go flat into that corner and you're on that kerb, you're not making the corner. Nor does it look remotely like you're trying to make the corner.

    • @garyoneill8868
      @garyoneill8868 Před 18 dny

      (a) bullsh1t.

    • @philwoodward5069
      @philwoodward5069 Před 18 dny

      @@garyoneill8868 It also would have tipped over from bravery into stupidity to hit somebody from behind hard enough to guarantee breaking their rear suspension or rear wing. You could still break your legs fairly easily in a 1990 F1 car. Or kop a wheel in the face.
      The way Senna did it was a good balance between crashing in a way that was unlikely to hurt either driver, and being sure of firing Prost deep into the gravel and breaking his right rear suspension. He did it well and he did it on purpose.

  • @gold333
    @gold333 Před dnem

    Of all the races I've seen in my life, the one Hunt and Senna are having up there would blow them all away.

  • @VjRj84
    @VjRj84 Před měsícem +8

    This should be posted on all the forums. It will make a lot of idiots have a meltdown. Just look at the comments here denying it.

  • @rafamericano
    @rafamericano Před měsícem +2

    Interesting that James Hunt changed his opinion from when he was commentating live in ‘89. At the time he blamed Senna for the chicane crash and said he had gone for a gap that didn’t exist (per clips found on yt). Maybe later he saw some replays and changed his mind.

    • @Ellemerob
      @Ellemerob Před měsícem

      I don't remember Hunt saying that Senna went for a gap that didn't exist at Suzuka 1989 but if you listen to him after the final replay of the incident he states that under normal circumstances it would have been Senna's corner.

  • @peterfighter
    @peterfighter Před 25 dny +1

    I don't why Prost turned so sharp in 1990. He was the one who was behind in the standings.

  • @JamesJohnson-ul9ox
    @JamesJohnson-ul9ox Před 13 dny

    Loved James Hunt, he was a breath of fresh air to F1 commentary 😊

  • @Car-guy307
    @Car-guy307 Před 26 dny

    Wow, this is what I have long thought and this is the first media person who shares my views on Prost being at fault in 89 and it was 50/50 in 90

  • @justinbest9429
    @justinbest9429 Před měsícem +1

    What an incredible interview! James was absolutely correct, if you watch the replay, especially 1989 Prost turns in three or four car lengths too early, only reason, to cut Senna off before it's too late no matter if it does cause an accident. Prost is a dirty drive on and off the track!

    • @jameshogan6142
      @jameshogan6142 Před měsícem

      I don't think Prost was a dirty driver. His driving into the turn early could be interpreted as his intention to hold the racing line and giving Senna time to react rather than turning in when Senna is already there and causing an inevitable collision.

  • @GT95_302
    @GT95_302 Před 12 dny +1

    Wasn't there also controversy over the starting grid being changed. Historically, the 1st pole position is on the left side of the track where Prost was positioned, even though he was in 2nd place. Essentially giving him the better start due to that being the racing line.

  • @bradnelson4778
    @bradnelson4778 Před 6 dny +1

    Still the two best commentators.

  • @sonnysting2663
    @sonnysting2663 Před měsícem +3

    Absolutely right.

  • @gareththomas2000
    @gareththomas2000 Před měsícem +5

    If i was the BBC in the late 80's / early 90's, I think they should have sent Hunt to interview people and rip them to shreds in one on one interviews. I think had the BBC went that route, it would have been fun to see Hunt ripping into Balestre, Prost and others in one on one interviews.

  • @justneedalogin
    @justneedalogin Před měsícem +2

    I love Hunt to bits but he is dead wrong here. Not only did Senna admitted how he deliberately crashed into Prost, McLaren crew members also confirmed how his telemetry showed he never even lifted for the corner.

  • @jonathanpatterson2798
    @jonathanpatterson2798 Před měsícem

    Two legends.wish interviews where this forthright to day.no BS and to the point.

  • @SilverSurfer5150
    @SilverSurfer5150 Před 29 dny +1

    Hunt was SPOT ON!! ❤

  • @Milkydrummer
    @Milkydrummer Před 22 dny

    We could use James Hunt back on our screens today, and Murray, bless him!

  • @pintsizedbiker
    @pintsizedbiker Před měsícem +2

    I don’t fully agree with James but his passion to argue it is fantastic

    • @jameshogan6142
      @jameshogan6142 Před měsícem +1

      He certainly caused me to reconsider both incidents because up to now I was set in my opinion. It would have been nice if James had expanded his explanation as to why he thought as he did and provided more detail on each collision.

  • @BigDuke6ixx
    @BigDuke6ixx Před 16 dny

    Hunt originally said of the 89 incident, ''Prost had every right to close the door'

  • @martinclapton2724
    @martinclapton2724 Před měsícem +1

    Looking at the replays again , I think James was absolutely right.

  • @brucemeyers5617
    @brucemeyers5617 Před 12 dny

    met James hunt in the late sixties when he was in F3 and had a lot to say even back then

  • @the_one_eyed_man_is_cursed

    What a nugget! Eloquent, forceful, logical, correct. Hunt was my first F1 hero, I was nine in '76.
    This pair made a fantastic team. The Chain!

  • @robertwhitten265
    @robertwhitten265 Před měsícem +1

    Did he just call his broadcasting partner an idiot?

  • @geoffnelson4777
    @geoffnelson4777 Před měsícem +1

    When Stewart interviewed Senna about Suzuka, he said one thing - he absolutely disagreed with Stewart - but in an interview with Stewart, like a year later, he changed his tune.

  • @danikahn5378
    @danikahn5378 Před 25 dny

    This man left us way too soon. Miss you James 😢

  • @rogerb08
    @rogerb08 Před měsícem +1

    Both very intelligent guys, I’ve read both of there biographies , well worth a read. MW was a successful advertising guru and came up with many well known advertising slogans. JH was an F1 champ, an outstanding TV commentator and in addition to being an avid bird collector was a Miss. World judge + he had Sennas corner from the early days

  • @allenbabcock6134
    @allenbabcock6134 Před 26 dny

    I never saw senna turn to the curb until now, i always thought prost was at fault and senna was in fact giving way !! amazing video!

  • @ninonero2105
    @ninonero2105 Před měsícem

    Senna Sempre & James Hunt Forever ❤R.I.P.❤

  • @MM-mx8sr
    @MM-mx8sr Před měsícem +20

    Hunt is right. In 89 prost did turn in much too early and drove into senna, in 90 again. I like both, senna and prost for what they did to motorsport, but these were prosts faults.

    • @4637812648
      @4637812648 Před měsícem +5

      He's right about 1989, about 1990 not sure. Senna admitted later he was seething over injustices which resulted in a pretty wild attempt.

  • @azynkron
    @azynkron Před měsícem +1

    What legends. Hunt also blamed Patrese for Petersson's accident, but the footage is so bad from that race it's difficult to decide. That said, Hunt was on the track when it happened so..

    • @nicholasellis5965
      @nicholasellis5965 Před měsícem +2

      At Monza in 1978 Hunt was forced into Peterson`s car by an overly aggressive move by Patrese who had moved over from right-to-left towards Hunt by over a full F1 car`s width as the track narrowed,heading towards the first chicane after the start. Hunt was left with no space to avoid colliding with his friend Ronnie as Patrese attempted to pass them both at around 140mph,squeezing the McLaren into the Lotus. Patrese was involved in a high number of contact incidents along with very dubious,sometimes overly aggressive driving standards in his early F1 & F2 days from 1977-`79. The starter at that Italian GP in `78 was the root cause of the carnage shortly after by giving the green-light when only the first two rows of the grid were (just) stationery, everyone else behind had a rolling start which caused a great deal of bunching-up as drivers from much further back attempted to overtake those who had in some cases started on the front 3 or four rows of the grid.Not sure if the start-official was ever implicated through negligence or the like. Hunt received much criticism after his assessment of Patrese`s driving being the determining factor which led to the accident resulting in Ronnie`s death later in hospital.Everyone who had little understanding of race driving just assumed that as the Mclaren of Hunt was the car which collided with Peterson he was the man responsible and that he blamed Patrese to take the attention from himself. Hunt was the driver who ran to Peterson`s fiercely burning car and pulled Ronnie out,they were friends.Many of the other F1 drivers at that time had been on the receiving -end of Patrese`s `over-enthusiasm`, but i`m glad he later matured into a much better and highly respected driver. Hunt was correct at the time,his honesty and intellect would never have allowed himself to resort to `bull-s**t,if he had f**cked-up he would certainly have admitted it. RIP Ronnie Peterson and James hunt.

  • @cthulhstu
    @cthulhstu Před měsícem +1

    I sorely miss these two. The voices of F1 when I grew up and I loved James Hunt’s no nonsense attitude. As another commenter said, today’s sanitised ‘opinions’ pale in comparison.

  • @tommyduk1779
    @tommyduk1779 Před dnem

    According to Wiki, Lauda said that Hunt was one of the very few people he liked, a smaller number he respected and the only one he had envied.
    Seems about right.
    I miss him.

  • @Rondo2ooo
    @Rondo2ooo Před 13 dny

    How I miss straight forward no bs discussions on TV.

  • @tonypap1
    @tonypap1 Před měsícem

    “No he didn’t, you didn’t listen….” 😆. Loved James Hunt.

  • @mrbbqlvr4274
    @mrbbqlvr4274 Před měsícem

    Hunt saying it like it is. No b.s. No filler.

  • @lordsuch5762
    @lordsuch5762 Před měsícem +7

    Ive heard that the telemtry showed Senna was flat on the throttle at point of impact . Does n't sound like avoidance to me.

  • @moisespereira9966
    @moisespereira9966 Před měsícem

    Paying attention to what he said and watching again that two moments, Hunt is absolutely right!

  • @Felipe7Morais
    @Felipe7Morais Před měsícem +1

    James wasn’t a genius on track, but, in my opinion he is the best commentator that F1 ever had!

  • @IkerPineapple
    @IkerPineapple Před měsícem +3

    in 1989 its very clear that its alain at fault, but id argue in 1990 it was senna's

  • @DarylLewis
    @DarylLewis Před měsícem +35

    I’m the biggest Senna “fan boy” (I think the cool kids call it?)
    I idolise the bloke. But let’s be honest here… he took Prost out in 1990.
    However, I believe Prost turned into him at the Chicane in ‘89. The steering angle turning right is long before the normal turn in point to the corner.
    But yeah, I’d love to justify Prost taking Senna out in ‘90 because as I said, I’m openly a massive Senna fan.
    But that’s not how I see it.
    Great video, thank you for the upload!

    • @vonPelger
      @vonPelger Před měsícem +4

      1989 is not so clear like 1990. but Look at the onboard from Senna in 1989 he turned left when the chicane was on the right... it is obvious once you see the Senna onboard.
      Yes Prost turned in early but so was Senna and others too. it doesn't mean you take somebody out with that move especially because he was on the outside. It just means you want to squeeze him and make it hard for him to pass.

    • @lucybarney1
      @lucybarney1 Před měsícem +5

      Me too , but if I remember they changed pole position place after qualifying ,so Senna was aggrieved about that

    • @DarylLewis
      @DarylLewis Před měsícem +2

      @@vonPelger we’ll agree to disagree respectfully 🤝 😌

    • @jjharson7344
      @jjharson7344 Před měsícem +3

      @@lucybarney1 this is always misquoted, I'm a Senna fan boi too, but they were never going to change pole position from the outside to the inside as Senna allegedly requested.... Pole was back then on the dirty side of the track - Senna had a point it should have been moved to the inside of the track giving the pole sitter best run into turn 1 - theres 2 stories to this, check out Aidan Millward's channel on YT, he can best explain this better than anyone else, he did a full video about it and it is very informative.

    • @42much1
      @42much1 Před měsícem +5

      I do not agree. If you see the width of that turn , Prost had a lot of room to turn side by side with Senna. Instead, he just squeezed him, who put the wheel outside the track as a defensive maneuver.
      Thanks James !Hunt!

  • @limitedmark
    @limitedmark Před 11 dny

    Thankyou James Hunt. 😎 You are missed as much as your opinion in F1, we will never have this excellence in F1 ever again.

  • @graysimmo5399
    @graysimmo5399 Před měsícem +7

    1-1 Prost turned in early in '89, but he had the perfect line in '90. In '89 Senna assumed Prost would give way which, when Prost had nothing to lose, was a bad call. In '90, with the title in his grasp, he didn't care. If Prost didn't move he was happy to take them both off. Freeze the video at 2.21, Senna's front wheel is alongside Prost's rear wheel. Prost had right of way. Where as in '89 Senna was much more alongside, so Prost should have given way

    • @jameshogan6142
      @jameshogan6142 Před měsícem

      Prost didn't give away on a point of principle in 89. I am not sure if he was in the wrong but he probably should have allowed Senna through as even so he would have still won the championship. In 1990 Prost was trying to keep his winning hopes alive so might have been better waiting until later in the race to try to take the lead.

  • @michaelbyers8931
    @michaelbyers8931 Před 11 dny

    The only race commentators that I liked. Respect!

  • @kathybaxter5746
    @kathybaxter5746 Před měsícem +1

    Something i have never seen anyone discuss is the fact that Prost jumped the start in 1990. He was rolling before the green light came on. He actually did this a lot.

    • @Ellemerob
      @Ellemerob Před měsícem +1

      Prost jumped the start at Suzuka 1989

  • @Colevid19
    @Colevid19 Před měsícem

    Where did you find this clip? And is there a full clip ?

  • @philipmichaelhughes5719
    @philipmichaelhughes5719 Před měsícem

    We miss both men massively but James especially, what a racer, and e lived life to the full, gone too soon.