What if Mario Couldn’t Get Into Bob-omb Battlefield in Super Mario 64?
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Super Mario 64's story is something that is pretty much engraved in us. You jump out of the pipe, race to the castle, ignore Bowser, and launch into Bob-omb Battlefield as you hunt down the first star from King Bob-omb. But what if that didn't work? What if Mario couldn't get into Bob omb Battlefield? How would the entire story change if this was the case? Well, it gets a bit complex, but join me for another dose of overthinking video games as we remix the timeline from this Nintendo 64 classic!
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Written, filmed, and edited by SwankyBox.
Voiceover editing by psnyomi133.
Music credits:
Songs from various Mario games.
"Dusk" - Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
"Bob-Omb Battlefield" - Super Mario 64
"Ending (Yoshi's Story) - Super Smash Bros Brawl
#mario #supermario64 #supermariobros #swankybox #outofbounds #gamingmystery #sm64 #m64 - Hry
Speedrunners: The what battlefield?
0 & 1 Star Runner: _The huh what now?_
Other Speed Runners: The bomb clip cage world?
@@davidthecommenter ok
0 star speedrunners: I don't remember.
Of course, for 0 & 1 star runners.
"What if Mario Couldn’t Get Into Bob-omb Battlefield in Super Mario 64?"
Mario: "Yahuuh! YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-YA-
U are thinking the right thing
-HOO
YA YA YA YA YA
YA-A-A-A-A YAHOOOOOO!
OOF!
If you /really/ wanna overthink things story-wise:
While this might be a bit of a headcanon, I would argue that the paintings are portals to actual place in the Mushroom Kingdom. Essentially, their purpose is to let Peach access places in her kingdom.
Hypothetically, if Mario were unable to access the portal paintings, I would argue what he'd eventually do is return home and book a flight or something-maybe call up Luigi while he's on it. He would then go on a more traditional journey around the Mushroom Kingdom looking for at least one star. Maybe just head on over to Bowser's castle and wreck stuff there.
Oh wow
i read this this man has BIG BRAIN and and i agree the portal goes to somewhere in the kingdome
Yea, Peach just casually has a portal to her kidnapper's home. That's totally smart and normal
@@Chillyxz It wasn't originally to Bowser's home, but he coopted those areas for his own convenience and/or set up his own paintings so he could leave easily after kidnapping Peach.
They are hazy maze cave was made by bowser and dire dire docks is also part of the real world
To think Bowser could've won if he just switched the paintings...
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The video does argue that Mario would still win in this scenario.
WALL OFF THE WATERFALL DUH!!
Um 0 star runs are a thing
Zombie Rusher nobody said they weren’t
"Goombas can't jump, so it's impossible to collect stars"
Pannenkoek: hold my HOLP
Made my day xD thanks
Hello, Doomguy.
Pannenekoek: **clones every single coin**
What's pannenkoek? EDIT 399 like is me
Actually goombas cant grab anything too, so i think its really impossible to collect any stars
What if Bob-omb Battlefield was a 1-star door while Princess Peach's Secret Slide had no stars at all?
I think that would make more sense from a story perspective. For all Bowser knew, it was just an empty room, so why would it require a star to be opened? Meanwhile, we have the Bob-omb room, which does have a painting world that Mario could go into...yet it requires no stars to open. If Mario got just one of those stars, he'd be able to access Whomp's Fortress and take the stars there. And so on.
Mario has deepest lore
Smithers, find this man! I want to make him my executive vice president.
this is actually brilliant imo
Sure, but that's ignoring the fact that no one can be kidnapped as much as Peach is by the same dude without them knowing the layout of their home. Bowser would have locked both doors... Besides, there's the fan theory that the "kidnappings" are, in fact, clandestine romantic escapes. In which case, Bowser making sure Mario can win makes total sense, as he only needs Peach for like 45 minutes a kidnapping.
If Mario couldn't enter Bomb-Omb Battlefield the game could still be beaten. BUT FIRST WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PARALLEL UNIVERSES
in the First Version you are able to Glitch on the Floor of the water outside the Castle, then you can enter the basement and complete the level
@Mariofan100 Cadman Wtf? Are you drunk?
Mariofan100 Cadman TF dude
@Mariofan100 Cadman *_What_*
I wot it
I like the idea of Mario problem solving like a human, normally he just blindly runs through things.
As human as a 3'11'' creature that casually smashes through bricks can be.
How would mario get through the castle without entering bob omb battlefield?
It's simple. "YAHOO YAHOO YAHOO"
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA
GoTree64 Y A H O O O O O O
So long gay Bowser!
or YA, YAYAYAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAHOOOOOOOO!
GOOGLE WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
"Mario's stuck"
*laughs in BLJ*
And the 180 star speedruns?
Can’t like, it’s at 69 :(
@@h.e482 Well now its 70 also I didint like
It was me
@@JPGpack :O
6:30 one of the tutorial signs actually clearly states "you can't open doors underwater", so we can certainly accept the story that Mario would not be able to open this door.
which could apply for gameplay reason but other games show Mario could find a way to open it while underwater
ITS CANON BOIS
yeah but theres a glith in the ds port that allows you to walk underwater
"You can't open doors while underwater"
The 0 star TAS speedrun: *PU movement noises*
@@masapeeta4140 Honestly even if we are looking at it from a story standpoint, I imagine it would be extremely difficult to open a metal door like that specific one while underwater so.... I dunno
Those doors are made from wood. Princess Peach might not like having some the doors smashed open or knocked off their hinges, but given that Mario would be doing this to save her, I'm sure she won't mind too much if Mario just went and grabbed a sledge hammer from a Toad Town shop or some such. And bam, problem solved. Plenty of levels to access now.
Or just punch through the door like Kyle punches through drywall since he can easily punch through solid rock like Chris Redfield.
@@kevgmei Actually you don't aim for the door silly. You aim for the lock the piece of wood that holds the door shut. (These days it's cylinder locks with pins that a credit card can swipe at if done correctly) but in those days it was a block of wood or a spring that holds the door shut when locked. There's a reason skeleton keys went the way of the dinosaur.
@@kevgmei Or Mario could go to our world and 'borrow' The Big Red Key AKA: Battering Ram which opens anything!
@@kylehill3643 You must remember that we're talking about a Mario game here, bud.
Or get toads bazooka.
Todd Rogers can still enter this area due to starting the game in 2 gear
its jolly roglers bay
@@douuian9724 what
mueitrust r/ihadastroke
What you re forgetting is the HuMaN ElEmEnT
@@jmackpa30 r/ihavereddit
In line with going into absurd detail, I would imagine a better in-universe explanation for not opening the door of the moat: the pressure of the water combined with the fact it's a somewhat rusted heavy metal door.
Just think of it like how you can't easily open a car door underwater with the windows up due to the pressure against the car. Opening the windows and letting water in until the pressure is equal is how you can open the door
It kinda depends on which way the door opens
@@jakewenttocolorado true, though I just confirmed the door swings to the outside (which I originally remembered), my "real life" theory stays. Technically even if swung inside the water inside might keep it shut. (maybe not cause of outside water pressure but still)
There are so many times I wish there were additional levels in the game. The one "night" painting on the stairs to the third floor, or even a whole new level to the castle entirely.
I wish that too.
That's what they almost did in SM64DS with the extra boss stages and battlefield stage in the courtyard
Do you think there's a afterlife?
Bowser would like your advice on how to beat Mario.
Erase every star there is . If needed erase every key. Or...erase peach
@@TomekKorgel its too late mario has already broken in using glitches
Just copy mario maker levels.
Launch a surprise attack on Mario before kidnapping Peach.
@@Dreamheart101 So super Princess Peach
2:19 just grab the stars that appear when you fall
r/kidsarefuckingsmart because your pfp is a kid
Lmao
iq: 999.999.999
Nasa would lime to know your location
Infinity IQ
@@cir00ls lime 🗿
Today: It’s basically just a theory.
Tomorrow: It’s a ROM Hack.
@shadowfr0st Well, Nintendo has a reason to be stringent toward their IPs at least. Sonic has been so dead with Sonic Team that the fans do make better games than them.
@shadowfr0st CZcams violates that themselves all the time, though. That isn't a Nintendo problem.
@shadowfr0st Yes, but CZcams does that too. Again, nothing new.
@shadowfr0st Of course it doesn't. I'm upset in general that this crap happens all the time.
@shadowfr0st They changed their CZcams policy toward content creators, so at least they're getting better treatment. But, they do go after strange things.
"what if mario couldn't get into bob-omb battlefield in super mario 64?"
Normal players: well that'd be impossibl-
Speedrunners: *are* *you* *sure* *about* *that?*
Speedrunners:
*It's easy, actually. Barely an inconvenience!*
Achoo, I think someone is talking about speedruns
9:20 Couldn’t Mario jump back into the inky pit and just go out via the waterfall to get back outside and progress normally? Seems odd to point out all the ways he couldn’t get back upstairs (door locked, etc) but ignore the method by which he (in this hypothetical story scenario) got in in the first place.
Notice how he finishes every sentence in the same way
i cannot unhear it now....
Because he's reading a script, it's normal
I read that in his voice
Dr. Wily (the Zelda youtuber) does the same thing, but it sounds robotic and annoying
You're right!
Huh. He sort of holds a note each time.
You can't beat Super Mario 64 without jumping.
Pannenkoek2012: Hold my A button.
I know this is a joke, but wouldnt holding the a button make Mario jump? I get this is a joke. Please dont put me on r/woosh or something like that
@@paper6407 it was a variation of "hold my beer" meme.
@@fendoroid3788 I know I said I get the joke, but I like some my memes making sense
@@paper6407 Well, if you press it underwater, in mid-air, during a cutscene, or while stunned/hit, it shouldn't make Mario jump.
The easiest A press to hold without making him jump woulb have to be the very first text box.
Pannekoek sounds dutch
Mario: *Snorts cocaine* alright... another way... OH I GOT IT! YAYAYA-
That ain't cocaine, that's meth
What if Mario couldn't get into Bob-Omb Battlefield.
Mario: *”Well, i tried...”*
I'm about to boundary break right into swanky's box
😏
Google Aids I wonder if he realizes what he just said
BLJ jump intensifies
There's not any fetishes here.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
"Yes, we're going to overthink this to death, welcome to a SwankyBox video"
.... Okay, now you've tempted me. And unless my ADHD kicks my ass on this, I'll show y'all what overthink really is.
Couldn't have said it better myself
4:47
hey, mario, buddy....
*what in the heck are you doing.*
AzMC hes throwin it back
Blj's
Kami_yada suuuuuure
Look who I found here!
I actually saw that all-goomba run, even though you guys made very little progress, it was hella entertaining!
What is the name of the hosting platform he used for the goomba run?
Mario can't BLJ so he's stuck in GBJ
Shoutouts to FimpleSlips
@@monkeylikeredbull nice joke
@Lucatin finally someone knows what GBJ is
there's no collision from inside tho
Shout-out to plesimflips
I've always appreciated the quality of narration in your videos, and this is no exception. I enjoyed this video.
I wish he would stop trailing off at the end of every sentence...
It's fucking annoying.
The Jrr what do you mean by trail off?
@@kylecampbell565 listen to him talk carefully, everytime he's at the end of a sentence he stretches the last word out for way longer than it needs to and it's fucking annoying.
@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts Yeah, I hate that as well. Every sentence finishes in the same way. It's so unnatural and annoying.
I literally can’t finish the video because of the narration
"The door is locked on both sides." Cause yeah thats how doors work.
I saw a big argument about this on the comments of another video. Apparently in Europe it's normal to have doors like that, I still think it's silly.
@@handsomebrick why would you need to both lock something and out?
@@robertharris6092 Supposedly you can leave the key in the inside keyhole, and no one can pick the lock? According to my dad who came from mainland Europe, it's common to see roving bands of gypsies trying to break into everyone's house there. I once saw a scene in a European movie where a guy stole someone's house key by slipping a piece of paper under the door, poking the key out so it would fall on the paper, and pulling the paper back with the key on it, so leaving your key in the inside keyhole must be a normal thing in Europe. I guess you might also want to lock your kids in, which makes sense in theory, but in practice I don't think any parents in North America ever thought "gee, I wish I could lock my kids in the house from the inside." Some people also say that inside-locking doors used to be common in North America, but we got rid of them because they were unsafe, there were incidents of people unable to escape burning buildings or something.
My house had one of those one-way doors, ended up trapping myself in the garage thinking the door was unlocked.
@@handsomebrick Doors in Europe can usually be opened with no keys from the inside but you always need a key to open them from the outside, i think its way easier that way cause u cant forget to lock the door or something like that
Who is Marr?
Mario just smashes through the door and says "Here's Mario!"
*Yayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayahoo!!!
0:23 SpOnsErShiPs hElP ouT a- *skipping intensifies*
I remember trying to get into the waterfall as a kid... It would have been a cool world building tidbit if they let you at least see into the cave and catch a glimpse of what was to come.
I feel like at this rate we are just throwing out random scenarios and *Mario 64* just happens to casually fit...each...and....everyone...one.
Almost as if it’s...personalized
Gotta say I'm impressed with your (and the hypothetical Mario's) determination to save Peach. Also kinda nice to know its possible to get on the roof and into Hazy Maze cave. Looks like Bowser's plan to switch the Bob-omb Battlefield paintings didn't work.
I really like the concept of an AU where this scenario happens and Mario is forced to get a bit more creative and does this as his solution. I think it'd make the story a bit more interesting too, and it'd show why Mario constantly beats Bowser all the time; he really is good at thinking on his feet and coming up with solutions on the fly.
Great. Now I'm overthinking this too, haha.
I always though the Bob-Omb Battlefield painting showed some weird creatures with beaks. I now realise that's the Bob-Ombs' feet.
The giveaway website is weird. There is no confirmation that it accepted the entry.
What if Bowser didn't actually kidnap Peach but she just really wanted to play an elaborate game of Hide and Seek?
What if Princess Peach was stuffed into a closet this whole time while Mario went traipsing all across the world never to find her while Bowser decided after being bored to bring her to his castle when he realized Mario was that dumb?
It's not really possible from a realistic perspective for Mario to be able to open the door underwater, either. The pressure being exerted on the door by the water would be too great for him to be able to pull the door open, and even then it would flood the entire basement, making the rest of the adventure considerably more difficult as well.
But the water level is the same on both sides so no big pressure should be pressing on the door
Simple solution for 9:13
Go back into Hazy Maze Cave, and to the Metal Cap cave, slide down the waterfall and you're suddenly outside, walk into the front door and enter Whomp's Fortress, gameplay proceeds as normal.
Bob-omb battlefield painting: *is swapped*
Mario: *is stuck*
Speedrunning: hold my spaghetti
But Mario can do anything.
he'll BLJ through the painting, or to another room and get the stars.
Terminalmontage fans (me) hearing Swanky mentioning him:
"YaHOOOO!"
This video was so fun to watch. I like what you did by linking areas together to create a hypothetical way he could proceed.
Something i really appreciate about yours videos is that you always go to games that were popular
Thinking of making a ROM hack called Super Mario 64: Beyond The Mirror. What do you think?
yes
Olive YTP good
call it behind the mirror, but make the words be mirrored
Yes do it
if you haven't thought of it yet, you could literally mirror the entire first half of the game through the Mario 64 ds mirror. so you play one half of the game forwards, and one half mirrored. That would be a sick rom hack.
I so want that Yoshi's Story cover you play at the end with all the extra percussion. What is it called?
5:38, probably because he smacked headfirst into a painting... he probably has a concussion
Title: What if Mario couldn't get in Bob-Omb Battlefield?
Speedrunners: Let us Introduce ourselves.
You can get a star as a Goomba in Bob omb battlefield, you can use the cork box glitch to get the 100 coin star, I did it, the reason it can't be done glitchless is because the Goomba constantly has the A button held and most stars in BoB are terminating meaning you have to be not holding the A button, cloning is terminating, but if you break the cork box at the same time as it despawns it will give you the coins and respawn, this is non-terminating meaning it is possible, I have tried it successfully, I know this wasn't the point of the video but I still feel it necessary to mention.
Wait, so playing as a Goomba means you are automatically playing with a permanent 0.5 A press?
@@RickRaptor105 yes
the goomba can not pick up anything that's why the king was unkillable. so no 100 coin star
@@schildiish he can pick up the box, he can't pick up heavy objects like the king Bob omb, he can pick up boxes via a dive. Edit: if you want proof there is video proof of me doing it on my channel
@@skyeturner5003 interessting. Well i watched their goomba video months ago and all i could remember where tiny jumps and no b button but only diving but yes dive pick up is possible.
So is there a way to do it glitchless or only the coin glitch?
And it would be interessing if they make a new challenge take on it and see how far the come now
Promotions end at 1:20. This is like the third time I posted this, but SwankyBox keeps deleting my comment.
2:36
Toad busy doing things
SwankyBox: What if you couldn't get your 1st Star in Bob-omb Battlefield?
Speedrunner Mario: What's a Star?
“What if mario could’nt get in to bomb-omb battlefield?”
Simple. Just break down door #2 and go in the second level.
P.S: Yes I know you can’t do this, it’s a joke people!
actually, in the rom hack with captain falcon, you can break doors with ease
Someone needs to make a rom hack out of this idea
Assuming you're only making Bob Omb Battlefield inaccessible, such a ROM hack would take 30 seconds
@@AnonymousFrogNG Don't forget entering the waterfall.
@@Medachod The only thing you would need, is to move the Bob-Omb Battlefield painting over to the tower, and replace it with a fake.
@@AnonymousFrogNG "Don't forget entering the waterfall."
@@Medachod What do you mean? You really had to reply twice.
The door wouldn't open because of the massive pressure difference between the flooded castle grounds and the unflooded basement. It's the same reason why emergency plane doors can only open outwards, but this pressure difference would be even bigger.
This reminds me of how I always laugh about how in Zelda games, Ganon could easily stop Link from reaching him by making a locked door with no key
*reads the title* "of course bowser first!"
"What if Mario Couldn’t Get Into Bob-omb Battlefield in Super Mario 64?"
0 star speedrunners:
It just blows my mind how these over-analyzed videos about very specific aspects of a 20 years old game can make so many views. CZcams never ceases to surprise me.
Here's another what if idea: what if Bowser made the final boss fight in Sunshine more serious, by showing Jr. how to properly use that paintbrush sceptor, to the point of vastly extending the game under his much mightier magics?
The castle in Odessy real made me want a 64 HD or 4k remake, maybe for the next gen switch that they anounced?
"what if mario cant get to bob omb
Painting"
Simple. mario will say
YA HOO YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA YA HOO
He already tried that in the gameplay perspective.
loved the "if link never left kukori forest" video. loved this one. thanks for the quality content swanky. looking forward to more
I could see a reason, why Mario can't open the door under water early:
If we look at the water level outside the castle and compare it to how far down we go in the basement to drain it, it seems like the water level inside is a lot lower relative to the outside water level.
This would mean, that there would be a stupid amount of pressure against the door.
So if the door would swing outwarts away from the castle, it would be (for all intends and purposes) Impossible to Open, because you would work against the weight of all the water
If the door would swing Inside, the must be some sort of locking and sealing mechanism to prevent the door from opening because otherwise it would just flood the whole basement
This comment is like the video, overexplanation
What if Mario Couldn’t Get Into Bob-Omb Battlefield in Super Mario 64?
Well first, we need to talk about Parallel Universes.
Mario's! King kooper has kidnapped the peach, and stole my eggs.
that depressed mario in the thumbnail though!
Every SwankyBox video: come up with a concept literally no one thought about for a popular game, create a 10-20 minute video about said concept, then somehow make the video super entertaining.
Mario: *cant get into bob-omb battlefield*
Princess Peach: guess i'll die then 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
*BLJ INTENSIFIES*
princess peach escapes on her own and swaps the paintings back. and then sends mario to sarasaland. and then goes on an adventture alongside luigi.
Alright here's that one nerd that will disagree with the "unscientific" statements Mario would not be able to open the door underwater because the pressure would keep it shut with there being two bodies of water on either side
That would only work if there was a body of water on ONE side. That's why if your car is sinking in water you're supposed to wait until there's enough water in the vehicle to subside the pressure.
Super Ascended Sean Pazdera would inequal amounts of water make a difference?
@@shrilleth A little bit, that's why it would still take a bit more effort than normal to open it.
But the pressure would be the same on both sides so it would be a lot easier actually
but why isn't Mario able to open doors when it's so cold, as in the slide door from outside in Cool Cool Mountain?
Video starts at 1:45.
Geez, he starts off by promoting his other videos, then a very long sponsor's message, and then after, promotes his other video again just for good measure.
The rest of the video I found interesting though.
I remember the first time I played this game as a kid I couldn't find the Bom-omb painting and now I know that having that course NOT sealed off made all the difference while playing.
"Mario can't get back upstairs." But what about the vanish cap by draining the moat?
1.he literally used that way in the video
2.why vanish cap?
Short answer:
Some hackei boi will find a way through
5:24
I feel dumb as I don’t understand he Todd Rogers joke.
You make the best videos, Swanky Box.
I watch them a lot!
How to stop the hero - villain guide:
>Lock all the doors with a seal for 110 stars
>or lock the doors from the inside
>profit
How funny this is if ya watched the orignal Gumba Video xD
Did you HAVE to give Bowser an idea????
*BLJ INTENSIFIES*
bowser is not the true big bad. bowser is working for someone called crysta the evil. even then, crysta the evil is working for dr. evil. but the true big bad is marvetta.
It's freaking crazy just how many videos can come from this one game. I love it.
I really liked this video! I love it when people overthink things like this.
Music ,
Paper mario 64
Super Mario 64
Yoshi 64
YOO ALL NINTENDO 64 MUSIC ON A NINTENDO 64 VIDEO!!!
All N64 MUSIC! ALL THE TIME! Stay tuned! Don't touch that dial!
Oh. I thought you were doing a littler radio jingle.
6:55 Once Mario grabbed the star from the Vanish Cap stage, he could just enter Whomp's Fortress and finish the rest of the game normally.
what if you can't enter bob-omb battle field?
TAS speedrunners: yes
9:04 The star door out from the hazy maze cave room needs 31 stars to open, so since you want to "play by the rules", Mario would have to go back to the front of the castle again.
@Lukas von das Eis No, I think the Hazy-Maze Cave door don't need stars
@@cauaplays1331 technically, you have to get at least 8 or 12 stars (depending on the game) to reach the door itself.
nice, you made it past the 10 minute mark. Congratulations, you obviously worked really hard on that
This is so cool.
To answer that we need to talk about *parallel universes*
Mario-eh, not a problem SPEED TIME
Toad-What in the world?
Skwanky: mario how did you beat the game without bob-omb battlefield?
Mario: *TO AWNSER THAT, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PARALLEL UNIVERSES*
Pannenkoek2012 talked about that like 100 times
Mario's! King kooper has kidnapped the peach, and stole my eggs.
Ok CZcams,
I watched this video now.
ARE YOU HAPPY?!?!?!?!?
mario: can't enter a painting
a nice, clear path outside that he could just walk on in order to get to BBF
also mario: "guess I'll die"
The Mario 64 TerminalMontage video actually appeared right below this one
Is it actually possible to get into hazy maze cave through the waterfall?
no
Gameplay wise, no. But like he said, lore wise, the cave is right behind that waterfall, so from a STORY perspective, he could enter it.
I like how you repeat yourself a bunch of times to hit that 10 minute mark. Sneaky.
Woah!
wow!
5:43 where the video actually starts
If you are going to argue that Mario can just jump onto the Waterfall into the Metal Cap stage, couldn't you argue that Mario could just break Peach out of the glass-stained window (in a more careful way than the end of the TerminalMontage video) and save her without having to deal with Bowser at all?