For the future of TUP, I hope you guys do what feels right to you. I will say personally, I really like the long format rambling hangout videos so don't shorten them on our behalf because I suspect I am not alone.
The thing about the podcast that I truly enjoyed the most is it really feels like two incredibly close friends who just record their bi-weekly in person hang out. I like that it's long-winded, I like that it is it based in the things that you both connect over and the things that you are interested in, and I like that it just feels genuine. It doesn't feel like something to reward the algorithm as much as it feels like something you do for yourselves and each other. I think as long as you honor that, as long as you both want to honor it, that's what matters. The authenticity of your bond. 🤷♂️
Hey guys! Just a quick "silent majority" comment here, but I am one of those people who definitely go back thru a YT channel's backlog after I discover a new channel! I did that with both of your individual channels, with TUB, and with other channels I've discovered thru you guys!
Scott, you're one of the reasons I'm even in this hobby. You and Jon were so foundational in my interests. Get back to making the videos you enjoy, and I'm sure you'll find your groove again. I think I noticed things start to slide after the GW incident. Worried that took some wind out of your sails. But you rock, and I look forward to watching and supporting you.
As a mini painting "Chip", I find Scott's recent mini segments at the white board explaining painting theory to be some of my favorite bits of his videos. Not sure if that's the kind of segment he LIKES to make, but if it is, I'd like to see more!
This may sound cheesy but I think you two have the minds of champions. Setting goals and having the ability to critique yourselves honestly is huge. I'm happy for you guys and looking forward to the future!
"Show a critique" was the thing I immediately thought of for a new segment. As to what to remove, it so varies from episode to episode - some episodes I'd kill the pre-amble and others the main topic. However, after a bit of thought its more the "news" segment. The news dates quickly (sometimes being irrelevant by the time the episode goes live) and generally lacks the value - and the best bits of it could just as easily be in the pre-amble anyway.
I’m glad you’re having the conversations about looking after yourselves as part of going forward. It’s important and not something we talk about enough.
More guest segments would be great. I would love to hear from TOs, store owners, independent game creators, etc. Also, could you go weekly, but have one TUP be remote to cut down on travel time. Main reason I listen is your personalities and take a general pulse on the overall community.
Future of tup from my perspective: I mostly listen when painting or hobbying in general and love the longer form to keep me in the hobby space. I feel like if it is shorter I would find something longer to listen too to keep my hobby juices flowing.
Let me preface this by saying this is a great video and I really love your content. Regarding your comment about how video game related content does not do well - I got into this hobby because video games stopped being fun for me. Miniature painting and tabletop war gaming have been a huge boost to my mental health, where video games had a powerful negative effect on me. So while I still watch the videos related to video game miniature painting for the painting side of it (Miniac’s recent video he did), I really tune out when the video game content comes to the forefront of the video. For example, there was about 30 minutes of WOW conversation in this video that I just straight up skipped through because WOW grates on my nerves like nails on a chalkboard. If there are others like me in your fanbase, that may have more to do with issues you are having than the algorithm. Have a good day!
For me, I really prefer your longer content so if I am painting (or at work) I am not having to stop what I am doing to find another video. So I wouldn't be a huge fan of weekly TUP if it would be shorter sessions. Maybe rotating segments, while I enjoy the news segment if it was every other show I would be okay with that. I do hope to see more interviews, those are some of my favorite sessions. I appreciate you wanting to grow the channel and what to hear what your audience is interested in. Your love for the hobby comes through, and don't ever lose that honesty.
hearing asmon being mentioned warms my soul, thats the crossover we need. He has mentioned a few times he used to collect warhammer when he was a kid. Should reach out
Drop the news add critique, news can be a week late and only due to your recprding schedule. Its loads easier to just mention it if youre excited bout it. Add the mini critique!! We all learn from the critique of any model cos then we all avoid those shortfalls.
Just to let you know, I found Jon’s channel. Worked my way through his videos from earliest to oldest. Found the collab with you and discovered your channel. Started from your most recent and worked my way back and now I am doing TUP from newest to oldest. It does happen. You guys are awesome. 👏🏻
Hearing you guys talk about life and work reminds me of a conversation I had while at university. I'm and architect and we had practicing architects come speak all the time. I was chatting with one of them. He had really nice work, had been running his own practice and seemed to have it all. I was chatting with him after his talk and somehow we got onto if he had any regrets from his career. He said something along the lines of "I don't think I was a very good father, I think I'm being a better grandfather though" That comment is one of the things that stuck with me most from my entire time at university.
You could split the episode into one week as the main topic focused, and another focused on painting techniques. Example format: Week 1 -Painting preamble ramble -What we painted -Patron model critique -News on model by pro painter that was significant to you, possibly related to a technique in the Patron mini. Week 2 -Preamble ramble on mini community - main topic -News in mini community Episodes will be a bit shorter, but each episode is distinct enough that people can pick their jam or watch both.
I prefer every two weeks. While trying to follow other weekly podcasts, I often find myself not finishing one before moving on to another. Bi weekly TUP gives me enough time to finish listening, and just start jonesing for another when it hits.
I like it the way it is... I'm looking forward to every release... and I always listen and watch while I paint and it's always a happy moment with you guys talking shit in my ear😂... keep it up...
Scott, hearing you talk about drive and energy is spot on. You have the resources you need to succeed. Now decide how you want to spend your limited time, money, effort, and attention to grow your endeavors. Go you.
I have had a big life and work decision to make this week and your conversation about work life balance has helped me make it. I never knew that I would get great advice from these two. But turns out they are actually smart and insightful if you really pay attention to them. Thanks guys.
I love the current format of the podcast. I listen to it at work on Mondays and it keeps me entertained. My issue with the Patreon backer mini review is I already back both of you on Patreon and Scott separately on Twitch. It isn't in my budget to back the TUP Patreon too. Maybe have a bi-weekly FB post for a mini to review or showcase on the podcast and leave the Patreon review for those supporters.
That's how I got back to the hobby few months back...I wanted to restart painting but found it difficult concentrating...then I put one of the tup episodes on while I tried to paint a mini and had to go back and save all the episodes on a playlist...now I can't paint without that sweet Jon boy voice talking about tendies..mmhhh mh!😂😂
Re Wolverine, the best-known version of his catchphrase is “I'm the best there is at what I do, but what I do isn't very nice”. To those well versed in X-Men lore, this is, of course, a lie.
This was a VERY enjoyable episode. I run a weekly podcast with interviews as well, and I relate so much to the "8h of energy in 2h of recording" and not being able to remember what I said. Hah! I really appreciate you both being incredibly open and vulnerable on your show. Your planning, reflecting, and chatting about being a good partner and parent is so important for every one of us, content creator or not, and I'm a supporter of you and the show precisely because you're not "playing roles" but just honestly talk about things that are important and under-discussed . A big Thank You from me :)
Just getting to watch this one. I've actually been going through all your old videos and its neat to see all the differences as the podcast has evolved. Just happy to hear that you guys are gonna continue the podcast. No major suggestions I just enjoy hearing you guys chat about anything and everything. Cheers buds keep up the great work and paint more minis!
As much as I'd like to have more videos I don't want them episodes to be any shorter. Keep the length. If that means o ly a couple episodes a month then that's ok. Long form content is the best!
I think you'll figure it out. Stepping stones. Listening to you both speak on making more and better videos makes me want to kick it into high gear for the meager sculpting and converting videos I want to do. But it is a steep learning curve; learning the camera, the recording and editing software, logos, intro, etc.
I'm subscribed to both of you and I haven't seen a video from either of you in my recommendations in a while. Or any of the other mini painters I'm subscribed to. I've been putting in my garden and am getting only garden and news. Even in my subscription recommendations. It's the algorithm adapting to some types of watched videos to the exclusion of all the other.
Just found this, subscribed for a while now to both your individual channels. Loved it! I would still watch your other channels even if you discussed here as well. Seemed like your were trying to avoid overlap. Really enjoyed seeing you too talk in this format. very cool.
Absolutely love this show and it's definitely my favorite hobby podcast for sure. What you guys are doing is unique and your goals seem pretty clear which is awesome. This was my first episode since around Christmas and like you mentioned, the show has evolved so much. I always ended the shows previously wanting to hear more and I always wanted them to be a little longer which is now great 😉 Though the main theme is the hobby I love the ramble, and I think it's quite refreshing to hear how you guys are just people too with relatable speed bumps and also have other interests. But yeah, great show guys keep up the good work 🤘🤘
I don't care about once or twice a week if it's split up because I don't listen to the preamble anyways lol. I like the miniature painting stuff so more about that is always welcome but don't burn yourself out. the enjoyment you clearly get from the current format is part of the draw.
Hey fellas. Some thoughts on the week to week structure. I think the mini weekly episodes would go over well for me specifically. I usually listen to you guys while driving so when i get to where im going and then come back to the video, ive lost the thread of conversation and usually tune out. If they're more condensed youd probably have me for the whole run time. Alternatively, i know your studio is up by Scott but what if every other week Scott came down to you and you did a casual vlog style episode of the podcast. Could just be going to the local game store getting "laymans" opinions on things or what have you. Wouldnt need the production value of some of those travel vlog videos that scott has done in the past, but it would help split the travel load and would get TUP like content out weekly.
Looking forward to seeing how your channels change and grow. I was one of the people who watched the backlog of TUP when I started listening around when season 2 began I think. Just wanted to say that I did the same with Scotts backlog when I started the hobby in 2020, I'd guess like 80-90% of it. So it does happen with youtube videos but perhaps not as much as with the podcast.
I would say that it's not so much people are too busy to sit and engage. There is just more time in my day where adding listening to a podcast on top of what I'm already doing is possible. Painting, working, driving, walking, mowing the lawn, etc.
Please keep it every other week, would rather just listen to you guys hanging out for the duration of the thing. I wouldn't change anything about the podcast, the improvements you've made have been great and I'm here for it.
Scott, dude! I LOVE the passion about your Miniac channel! I actually think Jon was being nice about your “hiccup”… I thought you were getting away from it and transitioning to a different direction. That being said, I partially (hopefully) chalked it up to how much you had on your plate. I am SO thankful to see your passion about the channel and can’t wait to see you getting after it again! On the topic of employees, I’m with Jon, too many will take away from the quality product I fell in love with years ago. Jon, love your perspective and the fact you’re happy doing what you’re doing because I love it! For TUP, if you guys split it to make weekly shorter videos…if it’s two separate subjects, cool! While I enjoy the preamble ramble, if that was shorter, you guys would have quality time for “the main topic.” Bottom line…I appreciate what you guys give to the community, enjoy all your channels and look forward to learning more about the hobby I enjoy while being entertained by amazing personalities. THANK YOU!
As far as for Jon streaming, why not just hop onto streaming your painting of the minis your doing for your video, people then get behind the scenes looks at the painting and can talk to you some while your record bits. I personally love seeing behind the scene stuff especially once i get to see the fully edited video at the end of it.
Hey Scott, I thought that video game model came out beautifully. I'm really sorry that the video didn't do well as the quality of your art is well worth the recognition. The sculpt and basing choices you made in the design phase were brilliant.
Man I have so much more respect for what you guys do with minis after starting to shade a unit of airbrush-camo'd shroud runners... In the immortal words of our cousins across the pond "I just can't be bothered" 😅
As much as we'd all love more TUP, i think we can all understand the logistics and time that goes into it, just do what feels right, we'd all hate to see you burn youselves out or even worse for you guys to start resenting each other
I like every other week. Also, if something needs to go, I think I'd miss what you'd painted the least, because 1) I mostly listen, not watch, and b) more often than not, I have already seen the stuff on your other channels!
Hey champs, Some ideas: Split Tup but have 1 recorded and 1 YT live? So, Tup live becomes a regular thing. Would try dropping main topic, as it can be polarising. Some hut with some, others don't. Thinking maybe record short interviews with industry peeps? Introduce and just play them. Would love to also see: Sculpt reviews. What's the hotness? Hard to paint? Etc. Like the critique for someone for everyone.
I appreciate you guys and I love your videos. I try to listen to a TUP when I can but the length of it does make it hard to get through a full episode. There are just so many things competing for vanishingly fewer (child free) leisure hours. So sometimes, knowing I might not get through the whole thing I don't click because I don't want to hurt the metrics. I am sometimes able to listen while I work but not always. That leaves driving and the evenings while mini painting or other hobbying. Personally, I think TUP would benefit from having a tighter run time and leaner segments. I also really enjoy mini critiques as the feedback provided helps me think about my own hobbying. Enjoy the character, humor, and flavor you both bring. Especially love the guest episodes. But yeah, 2 hours is a long time. But that's just my view.
What Jon says about his approach to his YT channel is relevant to TUP as well: don't overpace. I for one am here for what you are doing and how you it. That said: I would be very happy to see you keep at it in 2030 while you still get enjoyment out of it.
The current format is amazing, but I’m sure you guys will top it. Also, the every other week release schedule is awesome. Knowing I have either TUP or Paint Bravely to listen to every Monday is a treat.
Things That have always stood out about your channels are the creative editing in Scotts videos, even from very early on the creativity of the edits was something that stood out to me, it made the videos entertaining and inspiring, also the extent to which Scott focuses on understanding his equiptment and breaking down the things he's learned in a way that is easily understood is very impressive, I always try to put links to his videos when people ask me about stuff in comments on my stuff because he's covered so much stuff so well. Jon is a natural storyteller and has a charisma to the way he speaks and scripts his videos, personally I like when he alludes to childhood nerdy shit cause we are a similar age and so it's often geeky shit that I remember fondly and the lack of diverse entertaintment for our generation as youngsters has created a whole generation of people who remember the same stuff because it was all there was at the time. I'm not sure what context it will work but, for tup I wanna see you spin a wheel, no idea what for or how it will function but there it is...a wheel to be spun is my feedback, do with it what you will.
Fellas after the night I had. This is so the perfect video. Speaking of work and work life balence. Or working a job that pays well but destroys you mentally and physically. Thanks for smiles guys. Scott just make videos you want to make without over thinking it. Not every video has to be a mindblowing take on a style or technique. Sometimes these vids for us the viewer is like a hang session.
I really liked the Apex video. I'm familiar with the game, and the character, since my kids have played the game (and character) quite a bit. But I can't say I have interest enough in either the game, or the character, to "want to do that". Maybe that is part of drop in views? Maybe, even if someone is never actually going to do it themselves, as long as they don't come up with something that affirms their "never gonna do it" tendency then maybe those folks will pay attention and watch longer. The basing on that model is the star to me. The character is great, sculpted and painted really well, but the thing that kept me watching was actually the "how did he do that basing?" So ... I don't know ... maybe sneak the reality of the character into it. Like, even though it is obviously Bangalore, and obviously the focus of the model, and painted really well, maybe don't even bother calling it out right away. The folks that are like, "hey, that's totally Bangalore, isn't it?", might keep watching trying to figure out why you aren't stating the obvious (and getting their keyboarding fingers ready to point it out themselves since many like everyone to know they were right about something) and the other folks that have no idea, or don't care, keep watching to figure out the basing (or painting) parts that "they might do themselves". Then, as the video keeps on playing, tease more and more the obvious (to some) via inside jokes about the character that only the geeks will know until sponsor time around half to 3/4 of the video is through. By then, those unaware and uninterested in the character, are already invested for other reasons (how to paint, how to base, etc.) and those that totally caught the inside angle are orgasmically vindicated (and kept watching long enough to find out). Then, in those waning moments you can cover your connection to the character, the game skin you love, etc. Or don't. I probably have no idea what I'm talking about. But, I am aware of having to push through my disinterest in learning how to paint Bangalore and click on that video ... because I have never painted a video game character and don't really have any interest in learning how to do that. I love painting though, and have watched your videos, for years, to get better at mini painting. So, on that basis alone I pushed through my disinterest in the supposed subject matter and watched the video (even "liked" it). It was well worth the watching.
I know exactly which pigman elite Jon is talking about, where he paths, what he drops and where the best places to hunt him was, and I haven't played wow in a decade. That game consumed my life for so long.
Favorite part of podcast: what y’all painted Second favorite part: when my hobby role models make fun of me/ their viewers lol. Lol every time it happens Least favorite: main topic (don’t remove it, but maybe it is just another equal part of the podcast instead of a full hour?) I’m not a Patrion supporter (sorry) but I’d be happy to hear a mini critique as part of main episode (maybe tease me with one or two a month?). I am happy with a 2 hour episode but would be equally happy with weekly one hour episodes. I use to go through backlog of podcasts and CZcams channels until I found so many channels and now have so much content to watch each week that I no longer have the time. I usually listen only to CZcams and podcast. Hope this brain dump helps!
This episode alone is 2 hours worth of good stuff. If you want to grow, splice that up and post on other social sites. It's not about changing what you got it's about reframing it for other platforms. Using what you already got, you have near infinite shortform content.
I think including your audience more in your episodes would allow you to tap into a deep well of content you won't even have to think about much. So if you asked your patrons to submit comments, questions and concerns on discord or wherever and you were to read those out and discuss them on each episode, that can make for some hilarious and interesting content whilst including your fans. So the start of the episode you can have some preamble ramble questions (not related to mini painting) and then maybe 2 or 3 questions related to mini painting later in the episode. It would get people excited to think they are actually being interacted with and can help the community discuss more topics with each other. As much as we love hearing about you two eating tendies and taking dumps, I also would like to hear what the fans of the podcast are up to. It will also incentivise patreon subscriptions if people will think they will get their stuff read on the podcast. I've managed to work through the backlog over the last year and now I've literally just caught up. Cheers for the great content over the last year 🔥
Love your guys channels and this podcast - only properly got back into painting minis again last year and your channels were very helpful to build up some skills (but I'm definitely one of those who probably spent too much time going through your backlog of vids when I should be painting, or listening to your podcast while sat at my desk at work). Personally i like the format but obviously more episodes would be cool... Would be hilarious to have a 'live from Canes' one off segment and just log on to the WiFi there or whatever and just have a post-ramble ramble over some tendies for lunch
I don't necessarily want a weekly Tup episode if it's going to be split but I definitely understand it will probably get you more views which makes it more worth it for you guys. And/or means you'll be able to hire more people but I'm just afraid it will turn into a job for you guys and one of the things I think k is cool is that you guys have fun doing it. And it shows. So, whatever happens I'll enjoy the show either way. 😊
Scott, Love the drive to build more. I suggest looking for a virtual assistant. Don’t wait until you can afford full time, find someone who could take on part of that in stages. Especially more administrative stuff.
I personally like the long form that you all have now. It makes it feel more like a genuine hang out when you can just ramble freely without the constraints of time management. But selfishly I would also like to have more. What about in between weeks a virtual podcast focused on viewers topics like a super chat conversation with your viewers? It could be more condensed than the normal show but also engage more with your audience and drive participation in your Patrons? Idk just a thought.
Future of TUP: 1. You should do whatever you guys have to do to ensure they keep happening. The worst outcome would be if you get burnt out and don't do it anymore. 2. Taster critiques is a great idea. 3. I love the rambling, pre or otherwise, and that is part of the charm of TUP - so don't take this the wrong way, but sometimes the episode can be a bit light on painting. I realise that sometimes you havn't spent much time painting since the last episode, which is totally understandable, but in that case, other business/youtube/etc. chat is also interesting to me. 4. Every other week is my preference but I understand if you think it will help with the youtube algorithms.
Enjoyable episode this week! Have you all considered “joining forces” for your regular channels and not necessarily consolidating into a single channel, but instead becoming a consortium of mini painting media, leverage the same backend services, etc.? Perhaps I’m suggesting something that has already been evaluated and dismissed, but you have good chemistry and would be a good duo outside of TUP.
I think if anything would be removed from the podcast it would be the CZcams growth talks, I get that you guys are in the trenches living that, but it’s really not what I personally come here for. I mean this in the best way possible.
Favorite part is the preamble ramble, like hearing the random stories. Don't have a leave favorite part. Give me all the tup. Kind of indifferent to the weekly or biweekly, I like the long run times of the biweekly.
Definitely do what you think is best for yourselves, but I think.its easier to.habe longer episodes every other week. I think it gives you longer to get into yall's discussion and flow. And from my perspective I like longer form videos, the feed moves so fast its easy to miss most videos from channels that post a lot, but a single long form every other week, even if I don't catch it immediately, is easier to find time to throw in and listen when I can to catch everything
John, I believe I agree with you on the hard core wow. After the 15th character not getting past 8, I've had my fill of it. Couldn't even last long enough to get my pet. Lol
Jon isn't focused on how to generate revenue of growing his business, but rather developing the operation to be more efficient. He's perhaps thinking this way because he's a one man operation. Very successful entrepreneurs & big businesses aren't so focused on development, but instead place more importance on growth. Think you guys need a different perspective. I know Scott has mentioned he has a business coach, so I'm curious what that person has been teaching or providing insights on. Definitely if you have a project that is sucking up a lot of time and money then it makes it real tough to expand into new things. Definitely know what that's like. What can help is having a vision of the goal. Whether that be a specific subscriber count, or a gross revenue target or other tangible improvement and then set a rough timeline for when you should/want to achieve that goal. That goal should be big, like, 700k subscribers in 3 years, but not ridiculous. No idea if that example is at all realistic. Then work backwards to determine what you need to do to make that happen without compromising your lifestyle, health (mental & physical) and monetary needs/wants. Just two cents from one business owner to another.
For feedback about replacing segments of your show. I personaly do not like the preamble ramble, i always skipp it. That dos not mean that it is not interresting, but its not for me. I would suggest to make seperate ramble episodes, and miniature focused episodes, so that each episode would get their respective audiance. i think thats better for the algorythm, then people skipping parts of the video or switching off.
TUP without the preamble?! Can you even call it TUP?! I vehemently disagree - i'm here for their personality and the hangout vibes. Hobby stuff is ancillary in my subjective opinion.
Step one: Do react Andy videos where you guys just react to Slap Chop Videos Step two: Start internet clout beefs with other creators. If these can culminate in a boxing match with Squidmar all the better. Step three: Totally prank Vinny V. Prank content is hot.
I’d like to see you guys do a show every week. One week both of you could be in the studio together the next week Scott could be in the studio and Jon could be at home, kind of like Paint Bravely.
For youtube engagement you could try the linus tech tip approach; you have a clickbait title and thumbnail for the first few days and switch it to be more suitable for the core audience afterwards.
Love these, do more. I personally love listening to you guys talk. So you dont need to break your brain with topics and segments to 'keep' ppl. To grow is a different topic... But maybe you do can do a monthly in-person with lots of in-person goodies, and the rest is just a few hours split into several. (Or not) videos that you can record from home. Or, even better, make this the main channel ❤❤❤
If you get the chance to watch "On Patrol Live" or "Live PD", they follow several police departments in Florida and its always entertaining to see how many people go outside and walk their dogs at night who get attacked by alligators. The majority of these attacks are against the New Yorkers who just moved down here. Its usually once a month. Oh and you'll also see Florida Man when they arrest someone for Meth.
John, you are so right about steak. If you buy quality meat yourself, you can do it as well as most places with a bit of practice. (Use the money you save to invest in a better quality wine to go with your steak.) Unless the restaurant also goes through a special procedure to age their steaks, when it might be worthwhile going (but it will be expensive).
Your audience is small in the first place. For two YT channels that are so hobby-focused, I am surprised that the accompanying podcast doesn't have a segment to talk about listener-submitted hobby projects. Not to critique them but to celebrate clever or inspiring things that other folks have done with their hobby.
Cajun tater here from new orleans lol.. you gotta make sure that when you decide to do a crawfish boil that you use zatarans crab boil and make sure you get your soak time in. also add all the fixing before the crawfish. potatoes, corn, mushrooms, lemons, oranges, sweet fire sausage.. i need a invite if this ever happens lol
Just keep doing what you two enjoy. No complaints here. Idea though. It would be fun to see and hear you both get into a new game like say starwars legion and to see you each with different armies and different painting challenge techniques followed by finally playing each other. Or don't I mean it's your podcast
It’s so crazy to hear that I’m not actually losing my mind. CZcams full time is virtually impossible for one human with a life to do. You just can’t possibly do it.
For the future of TUP, I hope you guys do what feels right to you.
I will say personally, I really like the long format rambling hangout videos so don't shorten them on our behalf because I suspect I am not alone.
The thing about the podcast that I truly enjoyed the most is it really feels like two incredibly close friends who just record their bi-weekly in person hang out. I like that it's long-winded, I like that it is it based in the things that you both connect over and the things that you are interested in, and I like that it just feels genuine. It doesn't feel like something to reward the algorithm as much as it feels like something you do for yourselves and each other.
I think as long as you honor that, as long as you both want to honor it, that's what matters. The authenticity of your bond. 🤷♂️
Hey guys! Just a quick "silent majority" comment here, but I am one of those people who definitely go back thru a YT channel's backlog after I discover a new channel! I did that with both of your individual channels, with TUB, and with other channels I've discovered thru you guys!
Me too. That’s why I’ve started backlog watching here. I finished watching all of Scott and Jon’s videos
Scott, you're one of the reasons I'm even in this hobby. You and Jon were so foundational in my interests. Get back to making the videos you enjoy, and I'm sure you'll find your groove again. I think I noticed things start to slide after the GW incident. Worried that took some wind out of your sails. But you rock, and I look forward to watching and supporting you.
As a mini painting "Chip", I find Scott's recent mini segments at the white board explaining painting theory to be some of my favorite bits of his videos.
Not sure if that's the kind of segment he LIKES to make, but if it is, I'd like to see more!
“I’m the best there is at what I do… and what I do isn’t very nice” - that is the Wolverine quote. John I immediately knew what you meant lol
Came here to fill in this gap. Good on ya for pulling the quote, Michael!
This may sound cheesy but I think you two have the minds of champions. Setting goals and having the ability to critique yourselves honestly is huge. I'm happy for you guys and looking forward to the future!
"Show a critique" was the thing I immediately thought of for a new segment.
As to what to remove, it so varies from episode to episode - some episodes I'd kill the pre-amble and others the main topic. However, after a bit of thought its more the "news" segment. The news dates quickly (sometimes being irrelevant by the time the episode goes live) and generally lacks the value - and the best bits of it could just as easily be in the pre-amble anyway.
I’m glad you’re having the conversations about looking after yourselves as part of going forward. It’s important and not something we talk about enough.
More guest segments would be great. I would love to hear from TOs, store owners, independent game creators, etc. Also, could you go weekly, but have one TUP be remote to cut down on travel time. Main reason I listen is your personalities and take a general pulse on the overall community.
Future of tup from my perspective: I mostly listen when painting or hobbying in general and love the longer form to keep me in the hobby space. I feel like if it is shorter I would find something longer to listen too to keep my hobby juices flowing.
Let me preface this by saying this is a great video and I really love your content. Regarding your comment about how video game related content does not do well - I got into this hobby because video games stopped being fun for me. Miniature painting and tabletop war gaming have been a huge boost to my mental health, where video games had a powerful negative effect on me. So while I still watch the videos related to video game miniature painting for the painting side of it (Miniac’s recent video he did), I really tune out when the video game content comes to the forefront of the video. For example, there was about 30 minutes of WOW conversation in this video that I just straight up skipped through because WOW grates on my nerves like nails on a chalkboard. If there are others like me in your fanbase, that may have more to do with issues you are having than the algorithm. Have a good day!
Agreed! I cant click with content based on video games (becoming old sucks I guess). I ploughed through out of excitement for Scott's content
For me, I really prefer your longer content so if I am painting (or at work) I am not having to stop what I am doing to find another video. So I wouldn't be a huge fan of weekly TUP if it would be shorter sessions.
Maybe rotating segments, while I enjoy the news segment if it was every other show I would be okay with that. I do hope to see more interviews, those are some of my favorite sessions.
I appreciate you wanting to grow the channel and what to hear what your audience is interested in. Your love for the hobby comes through, and don't ever lose that honesty.
hearing asmon being mentioned warms my soul, thats the crossover we need. He has mentioned a few times he used to collect warhammer when he was a kid. Should reach out
Drop the news add critique, news can be a week late and only due to your recprding schedule. Its loads easier to just mention it if youre excited bout it. Add the mini critique!! We all learn from the critique of any model cos then we all avoid those shortfalls.
Just to let you know, I found Jon’s channel. Worked my way through his videos from earliest to oldest. Found the collab with you and discovered your channel. Started from your most recent and worked my way back and now I am doing TUP from newest to oldest. It does happen. You guys are awesome. 👏🏻
Hearing you guys talk about life and work reminds me of a conversation I had while at university. I'm and architect and we had practicing architects come speak all the time.
I was chatting with one of them. He had really nice work, had been running his own practice and seemed to have it all. I was chatting with him after his talk and somehow we got onto if he had any regrets from his career. He said something along the lines of
"I don't think I was a very good father, I think I'm being a better grandfather though"
That comment is one of the things that stuck with me most from my entire time at university.
I like it how it is. I'd rather have a longer episode every other week than a shorter video every week.
I like the fortnightly format. One week I get you guys, the next I get Paint Bravely. Any Monday is a good Monday :-) Thanks for what you guys do.
You could split the episode into one week as the main topic focused, and another focused on painting techniques. Example format:
Week 1
-Painting preamble ramble
-What we painted
-Patron model critique
-News on model by pro painter that was significant to you, possibly related to a technique in the Patron mini.
Week 2
-Preamble ramble on mini community
- main topic
-News in mini community
Episodes will be a bit shorter, but each episode is distinct enough that people can pick their jam or watch both.
I prefer every two weeks. While trying to follow other weekly podcasts, I often find myself not finishing one before moving on to another. Bi weekly TUP gives me enough time to finish listening, and just start jonesing for another when it hits.
I like it the way it is... I'm looking forward to every release... and I always listen and watch while I paint and it's always a happy moment with you guys talking shit in my ear😂... keep it up...
Scott, hearing you talk about drive and energy is spot on. You have the resources you need to succeed. Now decide how you want to spend your limited time, money, effort, and attention to grow your endeavors. Go you.
Dude Scott I’m ready for your return to focusing on the “come back” you can make that empire!
I have had a big life and work decision to make this week and your conversation about work life balance has helped me make it. I never knew that I would get great advice from these two. But turns out they are actually smart and insightful if you really pay attention to them. Thanks guys.
I love the current format of the podcast. I listen to it at work on Mondays and it keeps me entertained.
My issue with the Patreon backer mini review is I already back both of you on Patreon and Scott separately on Twitch. It isn't in my budget to back the TUP Patreon too. Maybe have a bi-weekly FB post for a mini to review or showcase on the podcast and leave the Patreon review for those supporters.
That's how I got back to the hobby few months back...I wanted to restart painting but found it difficult concentrating...then I put one of the tup episodes on while I tried to paint a mini and had to go back and save all the episodes on a playlist...now I can't paint without that sweet Jon boy voice talking about tendies..mmhhh mh!😂😂
Re Wolverine, the best-known version of his catchphrase is “I'm the best there is at what I do, but what I do isn't very nice”.
To those well versed in X-Men lore, this is, of course, a lie.
This was a VERY enjoyable episode. I run a weekly podcast with interviews as well, and I relate so much to the "8h of energy in 2h of recording" and not being able to remember what I said. Hah!
I really appreciate you both being incredibly open and vulnerable on your show. Your planning, reflecting, and chatting about being a good partner and parent is so important for every one of us, content creator or not, and I'm a supporter of you and the show precisely because you're not "playing roles" but just honestly talk about things that are important and under-discussed .
A big Thank You from me :)
Just getting to watch this one. I've actually been going through all your old videos and its neat to see all the differences as the podcast has evolved. Just happy to hear that you guys are gonna continue the podcast. No major suggestions I just enjoy hearing you guys chat about anything and everything. Cheers buds keep up the great work and paint more minis!
As much as I'd like to have more videos I don't want them episodes to be any shorter. Keep the length. If that means o ly a couple episodes a month then that's ok. Long form content is the best!
I think you'll figure it out. Stepping stones. Listening to you both speak on making more and better videos makes me want to kick it into high gear for the meager sculpting and converting videos I want to do. But it is a steep learning curve; learning the camera, the recording and editing software, logos, intro, etc.
I'm subscribed to both of you and I haven't seen a video from either of you in my recommendations in a while. Or any of the other mini painters I'm subscribed to. I've been putting in my garden and am getting only garden and news. Even in my subscription recommendations. It's the algorithm adapting to some types of watched videos to the exclusion of all the other.
As a Plant Biologist, I'm happy you're looking at garden vids - even if it comes at the cost of a Miniac / Ninjon vid 😂
Just found this, subscribed for a while now to both your individual channels. Loved it! I would still watch your other channels even if you discussed here as well. Seemed like your were trying to avoid overlap. Really enjoyed seeing you too talk in this format. very cool.
Absolutely love this show and it's definitely my favorite hobby podcast for sure.
What you guys are doing is unique and your goals seem pretty clear which is awesome. This was my first episode since around Christmas and like you mentioned, the show has evolved so much. I always ended the shows previously wanting to hear more and I always wanted them to be a little longer which is now great 😉
Though the main theme is the hobby I love the ramble, and I think it's quite refreshing to hear how you guys are just people too with relatable speed bumps and also have other interests.
But yeah, great show guys keep up the good work 🤘🤘
I don't care about once or twice a week if it's split up because I don't listen to the preamble anyways lol. I like the miniature painting stuff so more about that is always welcome but don't burn yourself out. the enjoyment you clearly get from the current format is part of the draw.
Hey fellas. Some thoughts on the week to week structure. I think the mini weekly episodes would go over well for me specifically. I usually listen to you guys while driving so when i get to where im going and then come back to the video, ive lost the thread of conversation and usually tune out. If they're more condensed youd probably have me for the whole run time.
Alternatively, i know your studio is up by Scott but what if every other week Scott came down to you and you did a casual vlog style episode of the podcast. Could just be going to the local game store getting "laymans" opinions on things or what have you. Wouldnt need the production value of some of those travel vlog videos that scott has done in the past, but it would help split the travel load and would get TUP like content out weekly.
Looking forward to seeing how your channels change and grow. I was one of the people who watched the backlog of TUP when I started listening around when season 2 began I think. Just wanted to say that I did the same with Scotts backlog when I started the hobby in 2020, I'd guess like 80-90% of it. So it does happen with youtube videos but perhaps not as much as with the podcast.
I would say that it's not so much people are too busy to sit and engage. There is just more time in my day where adding listening to a podcast on top of what I'm already doing is possible. Painting, working, driving, walking, mowing the lawn, etc.
1:28:59 what Scott needs is a steady stream of talented interns 😂
Please keep it every other week, would rather just listen to you guys hanging out for the duration of the thing. I wouldn't change anything about the podcast, the improvements you've made have been great and I'm here for it.
Scott, dude! I LOVE the passion about your Miniac channel! I actually think Jon was being nice about your “hiccup”… I thought you were getting away from it and transitioning to a different direction. That being said, I partially (hopefully) chalked it up to how much you had on your plate. I am SO thankful to see your passion about the channel and can’t wait to see you getting after it again! On the topic of employees, I’m with Jon, too many will take away from the quality product I fell in love with years ago.
Jon, love your perspective and the fact you’re happy doing what you’re doing because I love it!
For TUP, if you guys split it to make weekly shorter videos…if it’s two separate subjects, cool! While I enjoy the preamble ramble, if that was shorter, you guys would have quality time for “the main topic.”
Bottom line…I appreciate what you guys give to the community, enjoy all your channels and look forward to learning more about the hobby I enjoy while being entertained by amazing personalities. THANK YOU!
As far as for Jon streaming, why not just hop onto streaming your painting of the minis your doing for your video, people then get behind the scenes looks at the painting and can talk to you some while your record bits. I personally love seeing behind the scene stuff especially once i get to see the fully edited video at the end of it.
Hey Scott, I thought that video game model came out beautifully. I'm really sorry that the video didn't do well as the quality of your art is well worth the recognition. The sculpt and basing choices you made in the design phase were brilliant.
Man I have so much more respect for what you guys do with minis after starting to shade a unit of airbrush-camo'd shroud runners... In the immortal words of our cousins across the pond "I just can't be bothered" 😅
Thank you so much for Bobby Fingers. It is truly amazing.
As much as we'd all love more TUP, i think we can all understand the logistics and time that goes into it, just do what feels right, we'd all hate to see you burn youselves out or even worse for you guys to start resenting each other
I like every other week.
Also, if something needs to go, I think I'd miss what you'd painted the least, because 1) I mostly listen, not watch, and b) more often than not, I have already seen the stuff on your other channels!
Hey champs,
Some ideas:
Split Tup but have 1 recorded and 1 YT live? So, Tup live becomes a regular thing.
Would try dropping main topic, as it can be polarising. Some hut with some, others don't.
Thinking maybe record short interviews with industry peeps? Introduce and just play them.
Would love to also see:
Sculpt reviews. What's the hotness? Hard to paint? Etc.
Like the critique for someone for everyone.
I appreciate you guys and I love your videos. I try to listen to a TUP when I can but the length of it does make it hard to get through a full episode. There are just so many things competing for vanishingly fewer (child free) leisure hours. So sometimes, knowing I might not get through the whole thing I don't click because I don't want to hurt the metrics.
I am sometimes able to listen while I work but not always. That leaves driving and the evenings while mini painting or other hobbying.
Personally, I think TUP would benefit from having a tighter run time and leaner segments. I also really enjoy mini critiques as the feedback provided helps me think about my own hobbying. Enjoy the character, humor, and flavor you both bring. Especially love the guest episodes. But yeah, 2 hours is a long time.
But that's just my view.
Hearing the two of you talk about the future and the different paths you are laying out is fascinating.
What Jon says about his approach to his YT channel is relevant to TUP as well: don't overpace. I for one am here for what you are doing and how you it. That said: I would be very happy to see you keep at it in 2030 while you still get enjoyment out of it.
Dont change anything its a great view every 2 weeks. Keep up guest appearances and or add more .thanks for the hard work.
The current format is amazing, but I’m sure you guys will top it. Also, the every other week release schedule is awesome. Knowing I have either TUP or Paint Bravely to listen to every Monday is a treat.
Things That have always stood out about your channels are the creative editing in Scotts videos, even from very early on the creativity of the edits was something that stood out to me, it made the videos entertaining and inspiring, also the extent to which Scott focuses on understanding his equiptment and breaking down the things he's learned in a way that is easily understood is very impressive, I always try to put links to his videos when people ask me about stuff in comments on my stuff because he's covered so much stuff so well. Jon is a natural storyteller and has a charisma to the way he speaks and scripts his videos, personally I like when he alludes to childhood nerdy shit cause we are a similar age and so it's often geeky shit that I remember fondly and the lack of diverse entertaintment for our generation as youngsters has created a whole generation of people who remember the same stuff because it was all there was at the time. I'm not sure what context it will work but, for tup I wanna see you spin a wheel, no idea what for or how it will function but there it is...a wheel to be spun is my feedback, do with it what you will.
Continue being yourselves. Don't be a slave to the algorithm. That really only leads to disengagement and eventually people stop watching.
Fellas after the night I had. This is so the perfect video. Speaking of work and work life balence. Or working a job that pays well but destroys you mentally and physically.
Thanks for smiles guys. Scott just make videos you want to make without over thinking it. Not every video has to be a mindblowing take on a style or technique. Sometimes these vids for us the viewer is like a hang session.
I really liked the Apex video.
I'm familiar with the game, and the character, since my kids have played the game (and character) quite a bit. But I can't say I have interest enough in either the game, or the character, to "want to do that".
Maybe that is part of drop in views? Maybe, even if someone is never actually going to do it themselves, as long as they don't come up with something that affirms their "never gonna do it" tendency then maybe those folks will pay attention and watch longer.
The basing on that model is the star to me. The character is great, sculpted and painted really well, but the thing that kept me watching was actually the "how did he do that basing?" So ... I don't know ... maybe sneak the reality of the character into it. Like, even though it is obviously Bangalore, and obviously the focus of the model, and painted really well, maybe don't even bother calling it out right away.
The folks that are like, "hey, that's totally Bangalore, isn't it?", might keep watching trying to figure out why you aren't stating the obvious (and getting their keyboarding fingers ready to point it out themselves since many like everyone to know they were right about something) and the other folks that have no idea, or don't care, keep watching to figure out the basing (or painting) parts that "they might do themselves".
Then, as the video keeps on playing, tease more and more the obvious (to some) via inside jokes about the character that only the geeks will know until sponsor time around half to 3/4 of the video is through. By then, those unaware and uninterested in the character, are already invested for other reasons (how to paint, how to base, etc.) and those that totally caught the inside angle are orgasmically vindicated (and kept watching long enough to find out). Then, in those waning moments you can cover your connection to the character, the game skin you love, etc.
Or don't.
I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.
But, I am aware of having to push through my disinterest in learning how to paint Bangalore and click on that video ... because I have never painted a video game character and don't really have any interest in learning how to do that.
I love painting though, and have watched your videos, for years, to get better at mini painting.
So, on that basis alone I pushed through my disinterest in the supposed subject matter and watched the video (even "liked" it). It was well worth the watching.
I know exactly which pigman elite Jon is talking about, where he paths, what he drops and where the best places to hunt him was, and I haven't played wow in a decade. That game consumed my life for so long.
I'm super hype for the Kickstarter minis I trust Scott will give the best quality ❤
Favorite part of podcast: what y’all painted
Second favorite part: when my hobby role models make fun of me/ their viewers lol. Lol every time it happens
Least favorite: main topic (don’t remove it, but maybe it is just another equal part of the podcast instead of a full hour?)
I’m not a Patrion supporter (sorry) but I’d be happy to hear a mini critique as part of main episode (maybe tease me with one or two a month?).
I am happy with a 2 hour episode but would be equally happy with weekly one hour episodes.
I use to go through backlog of podcasts and CZcams channels until I found so many channels and now have so much content to watch each week that I no longer have the time. I usually listen only to CZcams and podcast.
Hope this brain dump helps!
This episode alone is 2 hours worth of good stuff. If you want to grow, splice that up and post on other social sites. It's not about changing what you got it's about reframing it for other platforms. Using what you already got, you have near infinite shortform content.
I think including your audience more in your episodes would allow you to tap into a deep well of content you won't even have to think about much. So if you asked your patrons to submit comments, questions and concerns on discord or wherever and you were to read those out and discuss them on each episode, that can make for some hilarious and interesting content whilst including your fans. So the start of the episode you can have some preamble ramble questions (not related to mini painting) and then maybe 2 or 3 questions related to mini painting later in the episode. It would get people excited to think they are actually being interacted with and can help the community discuss more topics with each other. As much as we love hearing about you two eating tendies and taking dumps, I also would like to hear what the fans of the podcast are up to. It will also incentivise patreon subscriptions if people will think they will get their stuff read on the podcast.
I've managed to work through the backlog over the last year and now I've literally just caught up. Cheers for the great content over the last year 🔥
Love your guys channels and this podcast - only properly got back into painting minis again last year and your channels were very helpful to build up some skills (but I'm definitely one of those who probably spent too much time going through your backlog of vids when I should be painting, or listening to your podcast while sat at my desk at work).
Personally i like the format but obviously more episodes would be cool... Would be hilarious to have a 'live from Canes' one off segment and just log on to the WiFi there or whatever and just have a post-ramble ramble over some tendies for lunch
I don't necessarily want a weekly Tup episode if it's going to be split but I definitely understand it will probably get you more views which makes it more worth it for you guys. And/or means you'll be able to hire more people but I'm just afraid it will turn into a job for you guys and one of the things I think k is cool is that you guys have fun doing it. And it shows. So, whatever happens I'll enjoy the show either way. 😊
Scott, Love the drive to build more. I suggest looking for a virtual assistant. Don’t wait until you can afford full time, find someone who could take on part of that in stages. Especially more administrative stuff.
Definitely going through backlogs and also trying to stay current
I personally like the long form that you all have now. It makes it feel more like a genuine hang out when you can just ramble freely without the constraints of time management. But selfishly I would also like to have more. What about in between weeks a virtual podcast focused on viewers topics like a super chat conversation with your viewers? It could be more condensed than the normal show but also engage more with your audience and drive participation in your Patrons? Idk just a thought.
Future of TUP:
1. You should do whatever you guys have to do to ensure they keep happening. The worst outcome would be if you get burnt out and don't do it anymore.
2. Taster critiques is a great idea.
3. I love the rambling, pre or otherwise, and that is part of the charm of TUP - so don't take this the wrong way, but sometimes the episode can be a bit light on painting. I realise that sometimes you havn't spent much time painting since the last episode, which is totally understandable, but in that case, other business/youtube/etc. chat is also interesting to me.
4. Every other week is my preference but I understand if you think it will help with the youtube algorithms.
I so love the blue on Jon's Termis❤
Morning all! If the jay and silent bob bit happens, I'm def going to my first adepticon
Enjoyable episode this week! Have you all considered “joining forces” for your regular channels and not necessarily consolidating into a single channel, but instead becoming a consortium of mini painting media, leverage the same backend services, etc.? Perhaps I’m suggesting something that has already been evaluated and dismissed, but you have good chemistry and would be a good duo outside of TUP.
I think if anything would be removed from the podcast it would be the CZcams growth talks, I get that you guys are in the trenches living that, but it’s really not what I personally come here for. I mean this in the best way possible.
And after nick and jay have finished that jon and scott can say "my what a lovely tea party"
How you paint an entire squad in 5 hours blows my mind.
Took me an entire week to paint a Backpack and another one for each shoulder pad 😂
Favorite part is the preamble ramble, like hearing the random stories. Don't have a leave favorite part. Give me all the tup. Kind of indifferent to the weekly or biweekly, I like the long run times of the biweekly.
Definitely do what you think is best for yourselves, but I think.its easier to.habe longer episodes every other week. I think it gives you longer to get into yall's discussion and flow. And from my perspective I like longer form videos, the feed moves so fast its easy to miss most videos from channels that post a lot, but a single long form every other week, even if I don't catch it immediately, is easier to find time to throw in and listen when I can to catch everything
John, I believe I agree with you on the hard core wow. After the 15th character not getting past 8, I've had my fill of it. Couldn't even last long enough to get my pet. Lol
Jon isn't focused on how to generate revenue of growing his business, but rather developing the operation to be more efficient. He's perhaps thinking this way because he's a one man operation. Very successful entrepreneurs & big businesses aren't so focused on development, but instead place more importance on growth. Think you guys need a different perspective. I know Scott has mentioned he has a business coach, so I'm curious what that person has been teaching or providing insights on.
Definitely if you have a project that is sucking up a lot of time and money then it makes it real tough to expand into new things. Definitely know what that's like. What can help is having a vision of the goal. Whether that be a specific subscriber count, or a gross revenue target or other tangible improvement and then set a rough timeline for when you should/want to achieve that goal. That goal should be big, like, 700k subscribers in 3 years, but not ridiculous. No idea if that example is at all realistic. Then work backwards to determine what you need to do to make that happen without compromising your lifestyle, health (mental & physical) and monetary needs/wants.
Just two cents from one business owner to another.
I loved your kickstarter Scott. Don't let the haters get to you. Brush coffin is sick.
LOL WHAT - The editing at the end X'D X'D X'D
I like the idea of a piece of advice. Something painting or life advice you learned over the past two weeks.
For feedback about replacing segments of your show. I personaly do not like the preamble ramble, i always skipp it. That dos not mean that it is not interresting, but its not for me. I would suggest to make seperate ramble episodes, and miniature focused episodes, so that each episode would get their respective audiance. i think thats better for the algorythm, then people skipping parts of the video or switching off.
ok, i reached the point of the video now where you talked about that exactly ^^ so never mind ;)
TUP without the preamble?! Can you even call it TUP?!
I vehemently disagree - i'm here for their personality and the hangout vibes.
Hobby stuff is ancillary in my subjective opinion.
Step one: Do react Andy videos where you guys just react to Slap Chop Videos
Step two: Start internet clout beefs with other creators. If these can culminate in a boxing match with Squidmar all the better.
Step three: Totally prank Vinny V. Prank content is hot.
I’d like to see you guys do a show every week.
One week both of you could be in the studio together the next week Scott could be in the studio and Jon could be at home, kind of like Paint Bravely.
For youtube engagement you could try the linus tech tip approach; you have a clickbait title and thumbnail for the first few days and switch it to be more suitable for the core audience afterwards.
That's an interesting idea
Love these, do more. I personally love listening to you guys talk. So you dont need to break your brain with topics and segments to 'keep' ppl. To grow is a different topic... But maybe you do can do a monthly in-person with lots of in-person goodies, and the rest is just a few hours split into several. (Or not) videos that you can record from home. Or, even better, make this the main channel ❤❤❤
The Wolverine line is 'I'm the best at what I do.'
Damn haven't played WoW in years and haven't allowed myself to be tempted. Until now Damm you Jon!
If you get the chance to watch "On Patrol Live" or "Live PD", they follow several police departments in Florida and its always entertaining to see how many people go outside and walk their dogs at night who get attacked by alligators. The majority of these attacks are against the New Yorkers who just moved down here. Its usually once a month. Oh and you'll also see Florida Man when they arrest someone for Meth.
The greatest Florida Man arrested on live tv... czcams.com/video/ayd0-XGiaWc/video.html
John, you are so right about steak. If you buy quality meat yourself, you can do it as well as most places with a bit of practice. (Use the money you save to invest in a better quality wine to go with your steak.) Unless the restaurant also goes through a special procedure to age their steaks, when it might be worthwhile going (but it will be expensive).
Your audience is small in the first place.
For two YT channels that are so hobby-focused, I am surprised that the accompanying podcast doesn't have a segment to talk about listener-submitted hobby projects. Not to critique them but to celebrate clever or inspiring things that other folks have done with their hobby.
Miniature audience for miniature painters 😉
Cajun tater here from new orleans lol.. you gotta make sure that when you decide to do a crawfish boil that you use zatarans crab boil and make sure you get your soak time in. also add all the fixing before the crawfish. potatoes, corn, mushrooms, lemons, oranges, sweet fire sausage..
i need a invite if this ever happens lol
Thanks guys. There goes my WoW hiatus. Lol. That sounds like fun, I always thought they should make a game where you have to reroll everytime you die.
Just keep doing what you two enjoy. No complaints here. Idea though. It would be fun to see and hear you both get into a new game like say starwars legion and to see you each with different armies and different painting challenge techniques followed by finally playing each other. Or don't I mean it's your podcast
As a turkey hunter myself I would love to hear more about Jon's hunting journey.
Miniac comeback LETS GOOOOOOOOO!!
I like it the way it is, but whatever you guys need to make it easier.
I want Jon to talk about KDM the way Scott talks about all his games
It’s so crazy to hear that I’m not actually losing my mind. CZcams full time is virtually impossible for one human with a life to do. You just can’t possibly do it.