Too good to be true?! | Behringer BDI21 Bass Pedal [Demo/Review]
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- čas přidán 29. 09. 2021
- An UGLY ducky... that turns out to be a beautiful swan?
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To summarize: You get 90-95% of the Sansamp bass driver for 1/10 of the cost.
I read a great many comments about the "cheap plastic Behringer boxes" yet I have never read of anyone actually breaking one. I have used two Behringers for 20 years or more; tuner and bass chorus. Both used 3 to 6 shows every week for a couple of decades. No breakage, ever.
This. For sure it's not a tough as steel... but it's plenty tough for most reasonable use cases.
I broke one where it hinges for the switch many years ago. It still worked until it was stolen with the rest of my board a few months later. That’s the only one I’ve seen break though.
This is the kind of pedal that I put on my gigging board with the reassuring thought that no one is gonna try and steal it. Just what I wanted! Thanks!
Sorry for what happened to panda. Please take care of yourself.
Also, great video as always.
Thank-you Ivan x
This pedal was definitely the best investment I ever made. Bought it for 17€ and really improved the tone of my basses. Got it for the past four years, used it in studio, on stage, everywhere and truly unbreakable.
Not a SansAmp quality, but for the Price.... Incredible !
Thanks for the video !
Glad it's lasted! I suppose the cheaper feel doesn't matter so much in a studio situation. It's insane value! 😍
Good to know! Thanks!
It's insane. I've even used it for live electric guitar at blues shows, and people will come by later to ask what I was using because the tone was so good. Love this pedal!
The video is fantastic as always and as I’ve come to expect. More than that though, so sorry for your loss. I saw the post with the pictures, and from those alone it’s obvious that Panda was a wonderful and loved companion.
Thankyou fir the love and support. She is sorely missed, bless her x
I'd like to see Beringer just put in an extra $8 into each pedal to give them a metal casing. Obviously we in the user end could do that ourselves but, it would be nice to have that quality there
Yeah that would be great! Still cheap and cheerful too
Just don't stomp on it.
I wanna know how hard y’all be stomping on yours though for that to be a must, I’ve had a plastic fuzz pedal for 6 years and it’s still good
I’ve one of these things for about 15 years
Never broke it or any other Behringer pedal
Most people have their pedals in a case anyway
I mean arguably that's what tc electronic pedals are
This is a great peddle for the price. I have owned a few behringer pedals in the past, but sold them off as they normally made noises I didn't want in my recordings. I watched this video a few times, as well as a few others on the same pedal. Johnny, this is a keeper, as always keep up the good work. Sorry to hear about panda Cat
It's insane value, Ive had similar experiences wity their pedals before, but this one is good! Thank-you mate ☺
Our bass player had one of these and it quite literally caught fire mid-rehearsal. Up til then the tone was flippin great though!
I love mine. Paid £17 for it about 4/5 years ago and it’s never let me down. From the studio, to big stages. I love it when people compliment my tone, and they’re amazed at how little it cost.
I completely get though that going from a SansAmp to one of these is a massive jump with let down points. But, like you say, it’s exceptional value for money for the cheap price!
Totally I was a bit worried about build quality and durability, so that's great to hear 😁
@@JonnyDibble like you say, it’s fine for when it’s switched on constantly, but I can imagine that constantly being stamped on during a show would completely destroy the pedal completely 🤣
One day, I’ll invest in a SansAmp. But for the moment, this thing gives me the tone (and playing punk I’ve always had a specific tone in mind that I’d want) that I’ve always imagined 😁
@@jamescruttwell375I saw your band's video and I liked it. Are you still using the Behringer BDI21? What equipment are you currently using? I got together with a group of old friends to play punk rock. This is really cool! Sorry for any errors in my writing. I don't speak English and used Google Translate.
I really dig the weird stuff you're doing with the video 🤘🏾😎 lights, camera and all that
Thank-you sir! Let's see where it goes 😝
I've used this pedal off an on for years and it does the job for the most part. I recently switched back to it when my Billy Sheehan EBS pedal crapped the bed.
It makes a great backup! So handy 😊
Just ordered one today, should be here about the same time I pick up my Seafoam green Squire CV P bass! So excited!!
Amaaazing! Let me know how you find it all
I like this pedal so much! I just lost mine and immediately ordered another one. Now waiting on the delivery.
And still hasn't cost you half as much as a sansamp!
Nice vid:) Using a looper to set your tone on another pedal is an awesome idea!
Thank-you! Saves time and makes sure it's consistent when demoing all the sounds! 😁
@@JonnyDibble Exactly - and you don't need four hands :) I have that BDI21 pedal BTW, and use it a lot when recording, its surprisingly good
i love that pedal! I use one at my bands practice space in place of my actual sansamp in case it gets stolen or broken I can just buy another for like $30-$40 !
A great backup option!
Thanks Johnny, just subscribed, hope you have more demos on lower cost pedals vs higher cost.
Thanks so much! Definitely need to do some more 😊
I use one of these as an always-on pre-amp - it's a life-saver when playing a support gig or in a practice room with a borrowed bass amp. I've tried other bass pre-amps, but prefer this, I keep meaning to order a spare!
Preamp pedals are sooooo good for when using crappy amps, brings them to life!
Had mine since 05. Still works fine. As a DI box alone it’s worth the price of entry.
I have the same Behringer DI pedal that i haven't used since i got it 6yrs ago.. I'm now about to get into it after watching this video using my looper pedal.
I have a few Behringer pedals, and while not exact duplicates of the originals, they definitely offer tremendous value...and for a musician like me, value is ALWAYS a consideration. Thanks for the cool review.
Great review. Very indepth and informative.
That pedal for £25 is a good buy.
Thanks Paul!
Been waiting for you to do this one! Great review, for the price it’s pretty damn good! Can’t see it lasting very long before that switch breaks of the jack soldering breaks down. Be interesting what the little bod plugin sounds like in comparison!
Cheers me dears! Ooooh both solid options. That'd be fun.
This crap all breaks prematurely regardless of its performance (they steal the best circuits so there's that). "Vintage Behringer" - LOL
Been using the V-Tune Bass BDI21 since 2008 and it's still as solid as the day I bought it and I use it a lot.
Mine is 15 years old, 100 shows a year.
No bother
Hell yeah, that was my first pedal! Great first pedal choice. Still my main DI!
Awesome! Great for someone stepping into the world of pedals and beyond 👌
@dynocap
question! can I use this just as a DI?
like: I want a way to record the dry signal of my bass or guitar (and then process it via software). Is this a way to do this?
@@diom00 I'm wondering the same thing!! I got the bass tone I was looking for just with plugins and no di but I was wondering if using this would make my tone even better (and maybe add a distortion pedal to try and get the same tone without any plugins and see which one I like most)
Winter beard is coming on Jonny boy!
Getting there!! 😝
I am so sorry for your loss! Lost my little Spike 3 month ago too :-(
Oh noooo! So sorry to hear that. It's the worst. Hope you're keeping well!
I've been using the pedal for two years, on stage, I recorded an lp, and I think it's the best investment I made, it's a really cheap pedal, but it can help the sound of a cheap passive bass too, if you don't have much money (like is my case) is really recommended, you will have a great sound! (the sansamp pedal is very expensive here) greetings from argentina
By the way, I have been using this pedal for a bit now. It's pretty good. I used to just plug direct in and get a big flabby, tubby DI sound that I'd kill myself trying to eq later. This is my first bass pedal and it makes it possible to get a much better sound in.
Awesome! Glad it's working out
Great video as always. Sorry to hear about Panda's passing
Cheers mate, sad times but getting there ☺
I wasn’t sure if I wanted to plop down the gheetus for a Sansamp. I thought this pedal is inexpensive enough to test out, so I bought one. Really enjoyed the sound of it. Nice tones I was looking for, I just wish it had a midrange control. I liked it well enough to purchase a Sansamp v2. A good tip is to add a touch of white paint or glow-in-the-dark paint to the little divots in the knobs so you can see where they are set easier. I’d definitely recommend one. It’s a good pedal.
I really want to try one of the newer sansamps with the mid control. That's a great shout!
there was a video somewhere with instructions on how to add midrange and one more control pot to open up more possibilities of this pedal.
Haha this was the first pedal I bought for bass (figured at that price point (I think it was 22€ brand new), can't really go wrong with it) and one of the first things I did with it was painting the little notches on each dial white. MUCH easier to use after that simple "mod".
It's certainly not the greatest drive pedal in the world but for the price, it's pretty awesome!
Great review Man 👏👏 perfect
Cheers! 😄
I know you said you get what you pay for with the Sansamp, but in the BDI21’s case you get far more than you paid for 😉 - you are totally right with your suggestion for marking the knobs though!
You're not wrong, the value for money is there!
I have one in my bass case as an emergency backup. I never plan to use it, but it’s good to have a parachute for when the main rig dies at a gig
I was gifted one of these and, as fate would have it, the line-out on my amp head is dodgy AF. So I run this as an always-on pedal through the effects loop to replace the amp D.I. Honestly, works a treat.
I have been using a SansAmp ever since the days when making such a purchase meant not eating for a few days. I must state now; I have never "out-grown" it. I am never without it. Not long ago, I demo 'ed a BDI21. Had this Behringer been available to me during those times, I would have eaten much better that week and I doubt anyone would have noticed any difference in the band.
😂
I owned two BDI21s before I went for Sansamp programmable. Funny enough I found Behringer easier to find great tone. If Behringer would sell programmable unit in metal case, I would sell my Sansamp without regrets.
That would be a great improvement!
I always heard about the constructive weakness of the behringer's pedals, but 'till now I've never see a smashed behringer's pedal. If anyone would break his behringer pedal i would be happy to buy the broken one and house it in an aluminium case.
Honestly, the first time I saw my BDi21 I thought the same thing: "as soon as it would break, i will house it in an other case". But it is still in good conditions... And I'm 75kg often wearing skate's shoes, but sometimes wears boots.
I found something interesting ......so thank you jonny....i must have that pedal....yeah!!😀😃
Woohoo! Thanks bud ☺
i really wish there was an option for mids on this pedal like some sans amps have, but besides that and it being a little noisy its amazing for the price, it transformed my pretty boring sounding combo into something way better.
Yeah that would be great, maybe a V2 to copy the newer sanssamps with the mud control. I really want one of the new ones!
There's a mod on CZcams here. Explains everything in pretty good detail. Not sure if it's what you're looking for but it's something.
You rock mate! You should do EHX bass battalion 🙏
Ah thanks very much! 😝 That would be sweet!
Excelente vídeo. Parabéns!
Thanks very much!
at 11:30 noticed you had the bass and treble on the BDI21 reversed when A:B'ing the two .. but thanks for doing this!
Hey guys, I just got my BDI21 in the other day and I’m loving it. Definitely adds that umph I was looking for. If I’m running this pedal along side other pedals where would be the best place to place this in my signal chain. Right now I’m running tuner > compressor > bdi21
You are doing it right.
Awesome demo. I'm impressed by Behringer stuff lately. I mean for the price you pay for it with the quality you get is pretty good.
I love my cheap bdi21 - what a deal 😀👍
Insane deal!
Have this playing at church, also have a boss GT1B but i find my self going back to the BDI. I use it as a preamp and have a compressor and drive pedals before it. If the Sansamp is anything like the TriAC that I have from them I probably wouldn’t like it anyway.
Hi Johnny! Thank you for all the good content you make. I have one question. I never had a preamp and never used it. I only use passive basses and I recently bought a POD GO. My signal chain is: bass>compressor pedal>POD GO + Tc Electronic Sub n Up into the fx loop. Since the pod go is limited to only 4 blocks, with the fx loop I am able to use 5 fx instead of 4. The sansamp in the pod go I like it for having a clean slighty dirt tone (like a Justin Chancellor one), but for the really dirt I prefer the Obsidian one. I don't like the obsidian before the sub n up and since the pod go i limited compared to the HX stomp I ask you. Would it make sense buy a sansmap and use it after my compressor pedal using the obsidian as only distortion or it would be better buy a Darkglass and put it after my sub n up into the Fxloop using the sansamp in the Podgo? I don't use D.I., I use the pod go as Audio Interface as well. Hope I have been clear. Thank you so much.
I use the SansAmp RBI rack unit for recording, and wanted something to emulate that live, it's working for me, and it's cheaper than a passive D.I., just for that it's a good option.
aww sorry about panda that is such a cute cat
I’ve got this pedal/DI and honestly think it’s absolutely amazing for the price - it’s easy to pick holes in it being a bit ugly and basically not as well made as a SansAmp but it cost me 6 times less than a SansAmp, is the SansAmp 6 x better? Not even close - IMO the SansAmp is an 8/10 but the Behringer is at least a 7/10. Great vid anyway 👍
Which would be a better buy for getting a good live tone between this pedal or the Valeton Dapper Bass?
I have a Behringer amp and it isn’t very good so my judgment on their products is a little bit biased against them. That said it’s not like you need a second mortgage to get this pedal so maybe a good buy for someone starting out on the journey?
Another great video Jonny, keep them coming.
Yeah I can imagine their bass head not being great. I've played a few of their cabs and not loved then. Definitely a good starting point and/or backup! Thanks mate
Do you have an opinion on the
Caline CP60 in comparison to the berhinger?
I’ve had two of these and the hiss I get from it makes it nearly impossible to use. I have to really crank up the volume on my amp to drown out the hiss. I wonder if anyone else has encountered this problem.
i have this BDI21...it is powerful
Power that fits in your pocket 💪
I've had mine for a couple years and use it as an always-on pedal to warm up my sterile solid-state amp and it does the job perfectly. My only gripe with it is, as you mentionned, it's kinda confusing to see your settings, even in broad daylight. On a dimly lit stage, forget it. Thinking about modifyng the knobs, or replacing them.
Personally I put bright neon nail polish on each knob. Been gigging my with it for months and it hasn’t rubbed off!
I own a few bass Di’s and I must admit my Eden wt is my go to but the Behringer is always in my case as a b/up.Not my Sansamp,Ampeg or Boss but the Behringer.Also a hats off to Caline Wine Cellar(Geddy???)just as cheap.If it weren’t for the fact I can get a glorious fret less smooth tone out of the Eden the B could be a winner,
I'd like to see inside it.
I've repaired pedals for people and have retrofitted quality pots and stomp switches from more expensive equipment to "favourite" cheaper examples. Perhaps the guts of the BDI21can be used as the basis for a really cool DIY project. Fitting it into a more sturdy customised housing with more robust potentiometers and foot switch.
It's not a hard thing to do. Anyone skilled with a soldering iron and possessing a little bit of electronics knowhow can do it.
A toothpick and some white paint solves the knob direction problem, and also I've been stomping on mine for a few years and still haven't had a problem.
I just play at church and I’m going straight into a DI box. I’m really curious how this would do for helping me beef up my tone
as you are so much into attention to details have you tried to get these sounds SVT , Chris squire, with Rick on your HX Stomp if so what are your settings?as no one on the tube has done. what a challenge for you!
I have it in the rack version, i.e. Bass V-amp pro👍
What are the settings at the end part? Sounds amazing!
Hi! What you think is use BDI-21 and Beq700(graphic equal) ?
It's a good combination to have drive ?
Thanks a lot ..
Great channel !!
Hi! That wpuld definitely give you more tone shaping options! I've not tried the EQ personally though. Thanks very much! 😄
aww panda
I have the version 1 of the original Sansamp that has been with me and has played thousands of shows with me since 1998.
I picked one of these Behringers up just to see if it was a dead on copy. Pretty much is but plastic and doesn't have the parallel output. It doesn't sound exactly the same but close enough that I don't know how they're not in court for copying Tech21.
It's what I have to leave at my practice place so I don't have to leave my Sansamp.
Oh awesome 😍 I'd quite like on of the new ones with the mid control. Great idea for a backup!
I wonder if the pots on the sans amp use an audio taper and the BDI21 pots use a linear taper.
Is the hi-freq hiss a feature of the pedal or is it because of daisy-chaining?
Is this effective Bass amp modeler if i use it with my electric guitar?
If I add eq for BDI21, do you think there's a help or nah?
Let's say... I don't have an amp head only the 2x12" bass cabinet... Does it work just plugin the preamp bass to the cabinet? And how loud can be?
Hi! Afraid not. Amps have two sections, a preamp and a power amp. The power amp is what powers the cab and preamp pedals are essentially the EQ controls of an amp, without the power amp section to power a cab. You can by separate power amps, check out the Ashdown Ant or Seymour Duncan power stage. Hope this helps!
I got this pedal, and it’s trully surprising for the price.
It really is!
@@JonnyDibble I used it in live situations both plugging it in the PA and into my amp and it sounds great on both uses live.
So, bedroom bass players who want to make a sound 'like Geddy' will never justify getting a Sansamp but they can get a 'similar' effect for a tenth of the money?? Looks good to me.
I own both units, behringer is a very good pedal for its price, but sansamp has a certain quality that can't be beaten. And will probably last you for a lifetime.Sooooo... Get the behringer while you save for the Sansamp my friends :P the original tech21 product is a Beast.
Totally agree 😄
Good review. You need to drop your pickups on the Bass side of your bass. The E is thunderous compared to the other strings....or that appears to be the case to my ears.
Thanks!! Yeah there's some setup issues with that jazz atm
I Play this f…..g Pedal on Stage with a lot of different Squier Pj Basses and the LTD Sureyvor 87 all with EMG PJX Pickups with a Hartke set up and the Sound like Frank Bello je is my Inspiration
I think I will get 2 of these and slit my signal and go into each one for distortion with all highs and the other all bass with compression then sum them together
Panda ❤
How does it react to pedals put in front of it
Behringer did it right this time
Look into the modded versions - there is a mod that you can do them (but I've destroyed three with sloppy soldering.. lol)
I would definitely destroy mine haha. Will check out some demos though!
CAn you make a video of the JOYO Tidal wave?
I have a question: can i use this preamp getting into amp or only direct into a speaker?
Of course! I almost exclusively use my preamps going into an amp. That's essentially What you're hearing here 😊
@@JonnyDibble Thanks for your answer dude! i apreciated it!
I've had a BDI21 for almost a decade. Not a single issue with it (as has been the case with all the Behringer stuff I have bought over the past 15 years). I had a Sansamp for about 2-3 months and got rid of it. It wasn't bad, it just wasn't better than the BDI21 for 5x the cost.
Cool
Behringer make their money as follows:
1. They make clones. (This is a clone of the Tech 21 SansAmp Bass Driver DI.) Most circuits can't be patented so as they copy they don't have to spend money on R&D.
2. Behringer has a giant factory in China which means that they get parts easily (and without transport costs). They also have a highly skilled workforce and low labour costs.
3. Behringer is a giant company, but it is part of a larger conglomerate that means it has extensive buying power as well.
Yep!
сool video.
maybe u can do some fight with sansamp and sonicake boom ?
That would've been cool! Unfortunately I no longer have the sonicake 😪
(i know that i commented on another comment that refferensed the DI part of the pedal, but i created a new comment for if you dont see the old one)
can I use this just as a DI?
like: I want a way to record the dry signal of my bass or guitar (and then process it via software). Is this a way to do this?
When you record through the DI, it is coloured by the preamp as apposed to a bypassed sound through the DI. Hope that helps!
@@JonnyDibble but if I turn the blend (or presence, not sure which of them) knob all way down, wouldnt the signal be completely dry then?
@@diom00 correct, the blend could be a way around it!
@@JonnyDibble would you recommend it or should i buy a 'proper' DI? I mean dumb question but i dont know which DI suits for my needs
(sorry for the questions lol, I thank you very much for your responses!)
@@diom00 I've not tried it myself, but I don't see why it wouldn't be effective? Of course there will better quality DIs, but for the money you can't argue!
My deepest condolences about Panda🙏❤
Just use white nail polish on the knobs to be able read it easier
Ah Jonny, sorry to hear about Panda.
Thank-you Eric. All she knew was love 🥰
my manager gave me this as a gift :)
Tavsiye ve video için teşekkür ederim, çok yararlı oldu benim için. Hemen bir tane sipariş vereceğim. Thank You.
Make a premuim anniversary edition with a metal casing and button and switch...id pay 15-20 extra...why not?!
The Joyo Dr J Sparrow is a better Sansamp, Caline Wine Cellar too, in that order. About $55 and $35 respectively, quieter, ballsier and far sturdier.
I'll check out the Joyo! Is it just a better clone or better in general?
Often times with inexpensive DI boxes, you get great clarity and grit but you lose a lot of the bottom end of the signal. Not sure I can really tell using my headphones or by monitors while listening to a youtube video. Fellow bassists, how does the bottom end of this pedal compare to a much more expensive box (or DI from a head)? Thanks!
If you're a pro, buy the Sans amp. The v tone will do what I need.
Best Bass Tone for under $100 US. Favorite feature is running a stereo dry/wet signal using the XLR for clean and 1/8 into effects into separate amp. Fan Fucking Tastic
Love that approach! Awesome 😄
@@JonnyDibble Thanks Man! Love your channel. One of the best bass channels out there!
Is there vol loss or my crummy headphones?
Mic might be lower in this one. Forgot to change my input volume back up after recording my podcast! Whooos