The difference between BPD and Autism
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
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The link between neurodivergence and BPD makes so much sense especially since BPD can be caused by consistently not having your needs met and your emotions invalidated during childhood. Guess who constantly has their needs and emotions and boundaries invalidated? Neurodivergent people especially if we grow up undiagnosed and are constantly told that we’re just lazy, whiny, difficult, too much, too weird, too sensitive, too annoying, etc. Plus our current world makes it basically impossible to be neurodivergent and not have some level of trauma which obviously causes conditions like BPD. I also have both and yea they’re definitely connected.
I was diagnosed at 19 with borderline personality disorder and now at 24 autism. My other diagnosis included depression anxiety. I’m also suspected adhd too x
I think you’re onto something with the link between BPD and autism with trauma. I would add to this discussion the element of attachment style, specifically fearful avoidant type. I wonder, have you looked into attachment style theories at all?
No I haven’t, but I definitely will! I always forget about attachment styles and love languages!
@@GLOsLifelove languages weren’t psychologically backed up btw as an fyi. Attachment styles are
First vid I've watched. I really like you, I think you're brilliant and hilarious. I've laughed at myself so much , but in all seriousness, you're doing what the UK mental health system is failing miserably at. Educating people about thier conditions ,bringing clarity ( and that is a miracle with a bpd/asd brain😂) but most importantly you are helping people by validating our experiences. Thank you. ❤💚💛
Thank you so much 🥰🥰🥰
I was diagnosed Bpd age 40 and this year diagnosed Autism age 47.... im sure my bpd was triggered from childhood trauma .... you are very good at explaining and this is fantastic video 🙏🏻❤️
Thank you!
I was recently diagnosed with BPD in a partial program. With my new psychiatrist I am going to be tested for ASD and ADHD. Love your channel! ♡
I am crying because finally someone is saying what I have been experiencing for so long. I grieve about how much more differently my life would have been if I had been born male
BPD has also been linked to being a misdiagnosis of ADHD and Autism, particularly in women and those AFAB, which is also part of why it can be more difficult to get a late diagnosis. This goes hand in hand with what you mentioned about the hysteria and misogyny, and then also additional evidence pointing toward your theory that BPD could potentially be traumatized neurodiverse individuals.
I myself was misdiagnosed with BPD, which ended up being ADHD upon being assessed correctly and I am currently working to get an assessment for Autism, which I am certain that I have and has been highly suspected for a while now. I also have CPTSD, which is likely another aspect of the misdiagnosis for me specifically.
The main reason my psych doctor decided to assess me for ADHD is because I didn't resonate with some of the more unique symptoms of BPD, such as hallucinations (both visual and auditory), and splitting. Yes, I can have rage and become very upset, but it is always me, meaning that I typically have control over what I am saying and how I am saying it.
My "rage" fits are more equivalent to Autistic rage or outbursts. I have known several individuals with BPD who when they would "split" or "snap" as they would phrase it, they would tear me apart viciously, block me, etc, come back and act like nothing happened. I am not capable of that. I also am not afraid of being abandoned anymore, as I am used to being alone and also losing people.
Something I am considering is that if someone got Autism and borderline at the same time is if you're female then Borderline is going to be detected first and if you're male then Autism is detected first. I am a bloke who is diagnoed with Autism who is going to be evaluated for Borderline some time next year because from the moment I found out what Borderline is then it sounded just like me
Given that you didn’t review all of your symptoms consistent with BPD, I will not be able to assume whether you truly meet the criteria. However, I advise that you consider the possibility that you are AuDHD with a history of trauma as a result of being so frequently rejected/mistreated, so complex PTSD. Also look into rejection sensitive dysphoria. Autistics are more likely to have cooccurring ADHD. I didn’t get properly diagnosed after my son was, but I was misdiagnosed with BPD when he was already suspected to have autism. I remember asking the assessor how I could have been born with BPD. She couldn’t give me an answer. I was trying to be the good patient, thrilled to have any diagnosis and treatment plan. The problem was that the diagnosis was wrong and the plan didn’t help. It became more and more apparent with time.
The eye contact part, painfully relatable 😅
I believed I was a BP for 20 years. The symptoms and my past-narcissistic abuse by my parents and sa by my mother's second husband seemed tp have caused it. everyone thought ans told me I was crazy, but I never felt that was true. At 35 I was with an autistic man for 5 years and did many tests which made me realise I'm autistic, but I dismissed it due to the typical myths and prejudices. At 42 I learned I am an HSP and I felt that my introversion and insecurities came from my trauma. At 47, after leaving an abusive relationship I learned about covert Narcissism, which my mother and ex have. I realised I had CPTSD. At 49 I chose my first healthy partner ever and litterally all of my previous issues were gone by 99%- the supposed "jealousy", my violent outbursts, my depression and suicidality. About four months ago I had a surgery and was on a sick leave for several weeks. My "outbursts" started again and I tried finding out what was happening. And one evening, I just stood in front of my now husband and told him that I think I'm autistic. Why? I had no regular schedule and couldn't work, which seems to be stimming for me- I clean houses for families. About four weeks ago I was pre-diagnosed ADHD and highly intelligent, the Autism isn't confirmed yet, but there is absolutely no doubt, my whole life and childhood, everything people, especially my family, blamed and shamed me for, point at this one diagnosis. The last time I ever tried making friends was at about 15, when I desperately tried to fit in. Since then, I'm a total loner and I love it. Due to the changes in my life and my own personality changes coming with them, I was finally able to distinguish between BPD and AUTISM
How the psych system works:
Boy is struggling: ASS/ADHD depending on energy levels
Girls is struggling: BPD
3:40 I am over 40 and only figured out TWO YEARS AGO that when ppl ask you "how are you?" That they don't actually care. AND I only figured out last year thst when ppl say "I'll calk you back later" that they actually have ZERO intention of actually calling you back later. It's so weird. I am diagnosed with BPD but I wonder if i am also autistic.
Yep, I would never tell someone that I would call them back later unless I intended to do so. I also wouldn't ask someone how they were without genuinely wanting to know. People are so ridiculous and shallow yet they say that I am the problem. I am now realizing that they are the problem.
DAMN, this is my new favorite channel.... you are BRILLIANT!
I have bpd iv wondered about this a few times. Ty for the video
Oh wow, I hate conversations and generally try to avoid them, because of feeling like I'm rude if I interrupt and if I wait and say it the subject changed 10 minutes ago and no one cares by then. Also I relate on is: the not understanding small talk and not picking up on cues when people are not just saying what they mean it's frustrating to me, cuz I'm just direct about stuff and say what I mean. I actually prefer dating someone also with bpd and bipolar, cuz they understand my highs and lows and we can help each other with the things we relate to, I mean same with also being autistic, but rare to find someone with all those at same time, although I do also understand if you get someone manipulative how that could be a bad situation, just ig I have been lucky enough to never run into that well unless it was undiagnosed and the person didn't know cuz afaik I haven't, but I've had bad relationships. I have never been officially diagnosed with autism, but I have always thought I had it cuz I relate to it at least higher functioning autistism i relate to a lot of the traits
Great video! Love your theories. I would also like to have medicinal weed but illegal here. Stopped drinking too. -Fellow autistic.
Thank you so much! Hopefully someday soon it will be legal for you, but giving up alcohol changed my mental health for the better in soooo many ways!! I’m proud of you!! 🩵
I love your videos, pretty much everything you're saying I relate to so hard. I have bpd but I think I was misdiagnosed and my doctors are being super awkward. I told them all my symptoms (most of what you said in this video and some others) and they just said it was completely normal 😂 How is it normal to beat your head until you pass out, it felt super invalidating to hear. But your content makes me want to pursue it even if the doctors are gatekeeping services 😂
Maybe who told you it was normal is autistic and it’s normal to them too? So weird honestly! A lot of health care workers know nothing about mental health!! A massive part of getting what you want from them is to never take no for an answer! Always go back! The squeaky wheel gets the most grease after all!! 🫶🏻
@GLOsLife I went back and spoke to someone who was a lot more understanding and now I've been referred for an assessment! Thank you for your advice, I really appreciate it 💗
and oh my goodness, regular people just DO NOT understand the difference between recreational and medical weed. to them it's all just about getting that buzz on rather than symptom alleviation. my mom is probably the only person I've met who doesn't secretly think medical is just a code word for getting legally high, and that was a lot of work just to get her to accept weed, even though it was way too little and too late, it at least allowed me to continue living. it's been very difficult until the 2018 ish and regular folks just don't get how bad it has been for medical users in a world that didn't even allow recreational, at least in canada. now that recreational is legal, it's not a constant nightmare of too expensive product whilst living in abject poverty doing anything i had to get my pain controlled at least for one night.
Ive always said all feelings have an underlying reason even if thats a misunderstanding or a past trauma.
I definitely have empathy, i feel others emotions, i care about others… but i may be so overwhelmed, or don’t understand their perspective, or dont respond in the “correct” way.
Liked how you mentioned to comment to push the video haha. Lol. Nice done. 👍👍
I think some people can have both bpd and autism and/or adhd. But i think it s also possible to have bpd without autism/adhd. Because if you don t meet one criteria of autism you don t have it. But in terms of misinterpreting something than being dysregulated is sort of similar (also no misinterpretation can happen that causes dysregulation)
Constant trauma before aged 5, (without comfort or regard) and specifically as an infant and beyond causes all of this.
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Thank you for this!!
yes! i hear you!
Love u Glo, thank you for sharing. I think my parents have bpd, currently researching I think I share the traits because of how i was raised but idk if I have the disorder
Good luck on your journey of understanding, I wish you endless happiness 🩵
You can have both a lot of late diagnosis of autism can make it more vulnerable to becoming bpd
I know I'm ADHD and Autistic but I'm trying to figure out if I have BPD as well.. I had an extremely traumatizing upbringing
"fuck me for believing what you're saying"
oof, it's almost the same guessing game as my hearing impairment when talking to NT people in regards to whether they're joking or not lol
Amen!!!
diagnosed bpd then asd adhd also ptsd and cptsd but also checked bpd in an assessent this year and yeap its still there still with me
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"Trauma Induced Neurodivergence," I been sayin this.
i need to get every video you have, give it to my doctor and say - here this is me!
it's too exhausting talking to/working with doctors, trying to 'figure out what's wrong with you' when doctors 1. are too busy 2. seem like they don't care enough and 3. forget everything you say and don't write it down.
Then you have to repeat yourself to every other professional you see
I was diagnosed last year with BPD. I was diagnosed with autism at 4 but not medically. I believe I don't have it, I was misdiagnosed.
Wow this makes a lot of sense
p.s. hair is gorgeous ;*
Thank you aww 🥰🥰🥰
ASD
CPTSD
BPD-quiet
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That's me I think , it would make sense.
i'm pretty sure personality disorders are considered types of neurodivergence. i may be wrong (PDs are a big interest of mine, but i'm not an expert), i've just seen it online when reading about them
Interesting
I barely have empathy fr myself let alone others m
you still have some ?
I only have empathy for others which I suppress since it makes me feel even worse about having none for me
Aww my little girl is on a waiting list for adhd diagnosis & she has that issue with socks & labels big time 😅 makes her so cross
You're right! BPD, and i suspect autism.
you know what the guy who invented the knock knock joke got ? a no bell prize!
You're using the weed to medicate for the borderline?
And autism yeah
@@GLOsLife ok please expand on this. I'm smoking weed and I feel like maybe it's not a good thing. I think I'm kind of using it to manage my mood swings, it keeps my thoughts slower and more manageable. But I'm worried it could b having negative effects on me. It's hard to say if it's a good thing for me. I'm worried it could make anxiety and depression worse which I really don't need. I'm pretty sure I'm autistic too but I can't afford the assessment.
@@heedmydemands I dropped all medication and substitutes, all you do is numb yourself.
I literally self-destructed after that and had something like a hard reset.
I'm still empty and unable to connect, but I'm no longer miserable
I think a lot of nuance is lacking when you havent been in medical education and employment and read this stuff. It takes many years of education in the field to be able to read and comprehend medical litterature. This is stuff is best left for doctors to differentiate honestly. That is why people specialize afterall…
That’s why I made it very clear 4 times I am not a professional lol. I want to be able to talk about my own diagnosis’ and make sense of it whilst having open discussions with others in the community. I’ve definitely learned from my 15 years of receiving mental health ‘care’ is that a lot of doctors also have no idea what they’re talking about lol!! It’s also hard to cover all nuances in a video less than 20 minutes long but I thought that may be obvious. Thanks for the comment :)
@@GLOsLifesuper angry after trying to get help for my partner and I for almost 3 years. At the end of it I realized only 1 person knows what they are talking about. Thousands of hours, thousands of dollars and effort and fights and babysitters etc etc and that one person is a coach and can't see us regularly. We are meant for each other and no one could help him with his Paranoia and ASD. And we are recently broken up, he said he is broken. I'm angry and don't want to talk to another therapist again.
You're used to seeing you in the mirror effect. Feels natural to you, but everybody else sees you the other way around. It especially doesn't make sense when you show writings... Flip it after recording...
Yeah BPD has nothing to do with misogyny. BPD is pretty much split evenly between men and women.
the diagnosis of Both is harder to do due to socialisation, girls hide ASD better, guys hide BPD better- in general
Take a drink every time she says, "literally".
fake
Sorry.. you lost me at mysogony!!🤷♂️
Please clarify
@@leilap2495 from my perspective, coping with and/or dealing with BOD is not by product of the so called “patriarchy”. It is a by product of either childhood trauma or a biological predilection to the disorder or a combination of both. Societal and feminist/misandrist perspectives just muddy the waters for people who are on the wrong side of the ledger in these relationships. That is my perspective at least.
@@jamescomber5531 I then ask you to consider then the expectations placed upon girls that are different than boys and the use of diagnoses to explain away a woman’s symptoms, often leading to the overlooking of inborn neurodivergence.
@@leilap2495 mmm.. the societal expectations of men and women are different I absolutely agree. That isn’t a misogynistic behaviour, society is a combination of all genders. The role of men in families is an expectation to be the provider, the protector, the leader, the teacher. Women have an equally important role in the family nurturing, emotional empowerment and understanding, providing a stable home environment. I don’t stand on a soapbox of mysogony, I love women and I have great empathy and compassion for the current generation who are so confused with the mixed messages from radical feminists that preaches equality and empowerment above all else. Women, in general, have never been more unhappy with their lives now than ever in the history of human evolution. Is that the fault of the patriarchy? Men? I just want children to have the opportunity to live a happy, safe and fulfilling childhood in an environment of a loving, united, functioning family. Call me delusional, but life growing up 50 years ago produced a population of more emotionally and psychologically balanced humans.
@@leilap2495 as an addendum, the science isn’t settled on the source of cluster B personality disorders. Some view it as a biological condition, some as a developmental consequence and others as a combination of the two. My view is the latter. But the data does, irrefutably suggest that women are far more likely to be affected by these emotional disorders of the person. Just dealing with the facts here. 😊
I loved video. But omg, the flickering rainbow is justperfect. ♡
Thank you, awaiting ASD diagnosis at 63, been labeled many things. Nothing relates other than many comorbid symptoms.
Thank you 🦋🧡🦉🪶