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Scotty why on my 08 suzuki xl7. The front tires wear on inside n outside i do over inflate the tires by 10 lb hope u can help me cuz no one can tell me why thank you Don
Any chance you can review the Forte GT manual transmission model? The manual transmission should be good, but I don't know about the turbo. Why not a civic Si? because I'm cheap and don't want to spend extra money if I don't have to and Toyota Corolla no longer has a manual transmission.
I like how Scotty can usually still find the positives while still giving his truthful opinion!
I bought a Forte a couple of months ago. I wanted something cheap and good on gas. This car meets those requirements.
the cars says your low on coffee so go get some now🤣🤣🤣
my sister got KIA got window broken twice just being KIA.
KIABOYS seem not to know which car to steal.
@@SaraMorgan-ym6uemy Honda crv shows the coffee cup on the display and says driver attention low, when I don't drive arrow straight. The other day there were strong wind gusts and it was shaking the car as I was driving, sure enough the coffee cup appeared
@@1whitecottagelife770 well you better fill up your coffee then kid maybe even take something stronger like steroids🤣🤣🤣
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue did you know that if a woman takes steroids, she will turn into a man?
I bought a 2021...same car but in Fire Orange 2 years and 16,000 miles ago. It's been flawless so far.
I bought a 2004 honda , more than 100,000 miles. flawless so far.
i dont even change oil much.
@@tocreatee5736 i love hondas but 100k is nothing....but its ridiculas that you dont change the oil regularly..
Good luck......why wouldnt ot be flawless with 16k miles....ive seen a lot of kias that were maintained blow the motors...
@@richsweeney1115 Why do yo think I said "so far"?! Over the years I've had worst luck with Dodges and Fords during the first 2 years of ownership.
My dad got a new 2019 Kia Forte FE a few years ago - absolute base model, with the regular 2.0L naturally-aspirated port injected engine (same as this one), and a 6 speed manual, for maybe about $17k. He said that even if he only gets the warranty period out of it (10 years) that he'll be happy cause of just how much car for the money it is.
in canada the manual base forte for 2019 had heated seats and steering! That was a deal!
Your dad is a smart man. We all know Corollas/Civics are great and they're several thousand dollars more expensive than a new Kia Forte. Not only is the Corolla MSRP higher, Corollas also have markups and accessories which people are happy to pay for since Corollas are in such extremely high demand. My point is, Corollas are expensive nowadays! So no harm in purchasing a cheap new Forte!
I have a 2019 base automatic. Aside from the CVT, I think it's a decent budget car.
My wife has a kia soul 2013 with 140k and still runs great and us it gur trips.
If you can actually get them to honour any of that warranty, that's the issue.
First time Scotty has liked a Kia😂
Lol😂
He never liked Kia. What happened?
The world will end now.
@@fromthebackofmymindScotty said it was “alright” not great like a Toyota. I don’t see any waffling by Scotty.
@@nameno8735 Scotty said it was “alright” not great like a Toyota.
I rode in the back seat of a Kia Forte, and I was amazed at how much leg room I had. The seats were pretty comfortable too!
More leg room than the Corolla and Mazda 3!
and catch fire on highway. nice car. 🤣
@@dfsdh432v9 and the wheels won't fall off or have their airbags deployed while driving like the toyotas do. LMAO
Should KIA rename this car the "Kilmer" in honor of Scotty not hating it completely? I say why not!
Wife just bought a new kia forte gt line for $26k. She absolutely loves it and it gets 39 mph. It's her 50 mile per day work commute vehicle. Can't buy anything new that cheap that gets u from point a to point b.
I just got my Forte GT line over a month ago and love it. Great car for the money. You can't beat it.
Should’ve bought a GT for that price
No ... because used is better....you could have got a 2 year old honda that will last longer .
I got a GT manual for 2K less
@@Catkinson1076agreed the GT has a turbo and better interior, better styling.
You can find the full post here, Our Chevy Blazer EV has 23 problems after only 2 months, but the headline does a pretty bang-up job of summarizing the unfortunate situation. In short, the car erupted with error messages during a drive from Los Angeles to San Diego. When they took it to a dealer, they received "the single longest list of major faults we at Edmunds have ever seen on a new car." Edmunds includes the entirety of its list in its post along with a full rundown of what happened.
Dude let me mention this. I purchased a brand new 2024 trax in August with 7 miles not even a day of owning it and at 60 miles the car wouldn't turn on anymore. Got my money back and purchased a new Kia forte.. still running strong at 5k miles vs that Chevy trax
@@SnipetsofTimeseriously?? You have 5k miles....thats literally nothing....ive seen a lot of kias blow their motors with lower milage ..under 100k .and they were maintained..the owners had to fight to get a new motor..
I’m very happy with this Kia. It’s been good. I wish I would’ve kept the Chevy but I lost my confidence in the brand although I still own my 2021 Camaro and runs like a bull
Just picked up the GT-Line earlier this month and I'm absolutely loving it. Only up to 370 miles.
2013 Kia soul 2.0 with 184.000 miles all city miles in Chicago and never had no trans and engine issues just ware and tare .💪🏻👍
Cool video, please keep them coming! ❤️
Many Toyota and Honda models have increased their prices significantly over the years. Rent & foods are also a lot more expensive.
So there's definitely a market for affordable cars!
Nissan and Subaru enters the affordable chat.
@@mrgurulittle7000A kia is probably better quality than a Nissan
@@user-li2wv3vs9fNah. Nissan CVT issues were fixed awhile back, and as for the engine and the rest of the car, Nissan is much more solid built than Kia. Kia has hits and misses on pretty much every component of the car.
@@mrgurulittle7000 The Kia Boyz will break into your Kia no matter what. Many places are no longer insuring them.
Nissan never fixed their CVT issues their latest class action lawsuit goes up to 2019
2017-2018 Nissan Altima
2018-2019 Nissan Sentra
2018-2019 Nissan Versa
2018-2019 Nissan Versa Note
@@ArgedisYes. Agree.
My 10 year old Rio is almost 150K still going strong, looks beat up but she gets me from point A to point B without issues
They are reasonably good cars. I wouldn’t buy a Toyota because of the Toyota premium. A 2015 Kia Rio is $4,500 and a 2015 Toyota is $10,000. A Toyota will last 25% longer than a Kia for double the price.
Just got one (10 years, sedan and 133k) as a winter beater (in Salt Country). So far so good. Mileage is not as great as I thought it would be, but it is also zippier than I thought it would be.
I rented a 2023 Kia and was surprised how well it was made and ran, but I purchased a Mazda3 instead. The Mazda was quieter and fit me better. I didn’t notice anything negative about the Kia and it was $3000 less than the Mazda.
Does it have CVT trans?
@@BalakeHart-nh4xh no, they have conventional torque converter automatics
Wait? Did Scotty just approve my purchase of Kia Forte GT Line? 😮 I gotta say so far it's a great car and I love it.
Yea...if you dont mind a car that isnt built well enough that it might not go over 100k without any issues..
@@richsweeney1115 have you owned one yourself?
@@WallyBoots nope...not as only mine..i wouldnt either . My ex had a 2010 soul, with the 6 spd standard tranny...motor blew around 120k....junk...theyre known for bad motors...i knew it was a mistake...but it was what she picked..i liked that it was a standard...otherwise, i didnt want her to get it. And it was babied..i always maintain the cars and trucks, especially when i knew they have issues
Get the GT.
Scotty mentioned a good point. Even cheaper cars can be good with manual transmission.
I like having manual seat adjustment. Got it in my Tundra but have the electric ones in my 4Runner which I don’t like as well. Sometimes the old ways are the best.
I have a 2012 fusion and I have to say the power seats are flawless. I have a hard time finding the perfect seating setting in most cars (power or manual) but this one is S tier. One of the reasons I’ve kept it, the leather seats have held up well and they’re very comfortable.
Lady that runs shipping dept. At work has a 2005 hyundia with 250k on it. Never had any problems. So maybe people don't maintain the cars they own and gives companies bad p.r.
I have the 2023 Forte LXS. Great car. I bought used at 22k miles. It still had the Kumho stock tires, but since I bought some Continental all seasons, the handling is sooo much better.
KIA doesn't have bad transmissions. Yes, their Theta engines had issues, but not transmissions.
Now, their CVT (called an IVT in KIA terms) works well. I have a 2020 Rio I bought new. With close to 40,000 miles it has been flawless. Works much better than the CVTs I had in my previous two Hondas.
Their DCT's had a ton of problems, even the newer 'wet' dual clutches.
how many miles do you have on it now. I bought my kia rio 14 months ago and have abour 20,100 miles on it and so far its been great. Will probably do a transmission fluid change around 30,000 but im curious how your is treating you now
@@apieceofcrap8794 I just crossed 40,400 mikes (as of May 22, 2024). Absolutely no issues. My Kia service rep said don't worry about a fluid change until 60,000 miles. I was planning around 50,000.
Let me know how much the fluid change costs.
I have the 22 Rio too. Up to about 60k in mileage, works like a charm
@@jake_ughhh Have you changed the transmission fluid in your Rio?
I have a 19’ LXS bought new my first car. Now I have 69k miles on it and it’s been excellent literally no problems, I’m honesty shocked and impressed at the Kia and would buy again just want a faster car for my second car
I rented an Optima of that year and thought it was a great car. I like it better than the Camary. It was more comfortable than the Camry I rented prior. The Camary sits too low. I had to raise my seat to make it easier to exit but, the rearview mirror obstructed my vision. I'm 6' tall. CONSUMER REPORTS mentions the ingress and egress was a challenge. The 2023 Camary has the same issues. Since I was in Cali, the rental car company only had Chargers and Camarys so I reluctantly chose a Camary because of better gas mileage. Keep up the good work, Scotty.
I ended up getting one of these since hondas and toyotas are so pricey atm.
I love my Kia forte 2023!
I had a fully loaded one as a rental once I really like it. It was peppy too
I totaled my Chevy Cobalt in an accident in early 2021. "Found" a car almost identical to it two days later at a local Kia dealership 15 miles away. I asked a friend to drop me off there the following morning on his way to work. When I got to the dealership, I was crushed to find out that the car I was there to hopefully buy had been sold the previous afternoon. Because it was minus 15 degrees that day, I ended up driving off the lot in a new (leftover) 2020 Rio. 45k miles later, I still wish I'd had the opportunity to look at other vehicles at different dealerships, but it's been a reliable ride and consistently averages 40mpg.
And you’ll probably never get pulled over.
I remember when my brakes failed in my 82 Escort. I was glad for my hand operated e brake. I couldn’t imagine an electric e brake. What good would that have done?
I have this same car, 2020, 103k miles, great car!
I have a friend who has a 2021 with 220k miles! Original engine and transmission just like mine! Very reliable car
Jesus 220k in 3 years??? You guys doing world tours or something?😂😂😂
Something like that lol. My aunt’s 2017 Soul went up to 470k miles then it got totaled but very reliable too.
I used to have a 2022 GT-Line, the first year for that face-lift & it was a fantastic car, absolutely loved it.
It’s only 2024 - Lease or totaled? Lol
@@BB-ed4om neither, I traded it for a '24 full-on GT lol.
I get sea sick watching Scotty's vids!
Hello Scotty I'm from Trinidad and Tobago. What do you know/ think about Schaeffer's oil? Is it any good?
I test drove a 2020, felt like a Euro car in solidity and handling (was replacing a 2006 330i). Ultimately went with Ioniq plug-in but this car is solid
Hey Scotty, what do you think about BMW's B48, b58/s58 engines? People say that they have been very reliable in the past couple years
I rented one and drove from Charlotte NC to Nashville Tn and got over 40mpg in normal mode. I actually liked .
I have a 2020 Kia Forte GT. Love it. 👍
Greetings from Germany, Mr. Mechanic. I have a question, what do you think about the Mercedes C class from 2015 until facelift 2019.....Diesel 220 cdi. ? I had a Mazda 626 and was very happy with the 2.0i for 11 years and 300,000 km. without a hitch. Now I have a Bmw 316 diesel with over 250,000 km. same no problem...for now. I would like a Mercedes C class 220-250 cdi, but I would like to hear your opinion.....? Thank you in advance.
I recently bought a 2013 Kia Forte to replace a 2019 Cruze that was totaled by a deer .( GM Quality ?) The difference in overall quality is like night and day ,the older Kia is light years ahead of my previous Chevy in comfort size and overall build tolerence. No i am not biased ,i actually retired from the plant that built the Cruze just before they closed it so they could import more Korean made cars. The Kia has 109k miles runs perfectly and as you point out half the price of a Toyota and the Kia is much better on gas mileage ,noy quite as good as the Cruze but is a bigger car
Hey Scotty what do you think about 2023-2024 VW Golf GTI made in Germany 🇩🇪 now i really wanted one manual
My 2015 Forte5 has been a great car, zero repairs at just under 100k. After 8 years, still under warranty.
When Scotty uploads a video I feel obligated to watch
I owned a 2020 Forte and regret selling it. Peppy little car and great mileage.
Hey scotty, i just bought a used 2022 chevy colorado with 30k miles on it. I love it just have some worries. When i cold start it, and then shift it into reverse it takes about a half a second to register then kicks into gear alittle. Should i be worried and do you know what that can be ?
Because of the cold. My Elantra does somewhat the same on a cold morning start, nothing to worry about if it doesn't act that way after being warmed up
Scotty approves this Kia. What has happened? 😂
Kias and Hyundais are popular in Saudi Arabia, for some reason the Elantras last long and handle the scorching heat. But their new prices are ridiculously high, high as a Toyota, if not more.
I have a 2021. Sport mode gives it 1 cojone. And it does handle and look snazzy.
When they sell the car they boast a 7 year warranty. When the customer finds faults they refuse to fix the part. My speedo is inaccurate by 10%. I approached both National Capital Motors (The dealer) and Kia (the manufacturer) and both refused to replace or repair the inaccurate speedo.
The GM platform of the Acura/Honda BEV, is breaking down and rife with error codes and bricking.
When are we going to see the BYD Dolphin in North America?
The Kia EX trim models have some nice amenities, but he's right about how much oil they burn.
I have 175000 on my 2013 soul. No major issues yet.
I drive a 24 Camry LE the 4 cylinder version . But the place I work gives me a Kia K5 the non-turbo version to drive for business trips. I can tell you the K5 has much more refined cabin.The engine is much more responsive, and has more comfortable driver seat.
What year is the Kia K5?
2021@@johnw9245
I had a Kia Forte 2020 lxs model all 4 car widows stopped working within a month of buying it brand new. Had the doors motor assembly replaced on all of them it was a good thing it was under warranty or would of cost me over $1000.00 to fix. Traded it in the next year for a Honda.
hyundai warranty is total nonsense.
hyundai charge you 60,000 for EV battery replacement.
Getting one with that motor and a manual transmission is the sweet spot. So what if it's made in Mexico
you can buy 2 new kias within 5 years vs 1 toyota that would cost the same. 2 cars is always better than one in the long term.
i wonder how the engines in these cvt will hold up. every time i see scotty floor it theyre always bouncing off 7000 and 8000 rpm for a second lol they rev pretty high pretty easy/ fast it seems
I’m not a fan of Kia or Hyundai but my wife and I rented an Elantra when we went to Vegas last year. We drove it to the Grand Canyon and I was shocked the thing got 50 mpg and it was just a base model, not a hybrid. And the interior and ride quality was a lot better than I expected. It seemed solidly built with no rattles or anything and a nice, quiet ride. Dare I say this but I liked it.
KIA and Hyundais small stuff is actually pretty decent.
until your window smashed.
@@tocreatee5736 ok troll
@maga4813 if you read my comments in this comment section, you'll see that I'm supporting Kia Forte
@@maga4813 He's not trolling. Many places are no longer insuring Kia/Hyundai because the 'Kia Boyz' break into them and steal them with just a screwdriver. Big scandal because they have no immobilizers.
So even the cars with push button start get broken into even if they can't steal them.
Scott always looks like he had a few bears with a few liquor shots and one cookie edible before he does his video rants! lol!
Other issue with Kia, Hyundai and more are the sealed transmissions. I've heard that changing the transmission fluid in a sealed unit can be a complicated task even for an experienced mechanic. Do you think that would help extend the life of a sealed transmisson on a Hyundai or Kia?
Transmission fluid still needs to be changed anyway. Maybe an aftermarket transmission cooler can help too
Scotty's awesome! His laugh is hilarious.
It gets you from point A to point B. That’s all the younger folks seem to care about today, generally speaking. I guess we’ll never have any good styling again in any car. I miss great styling. If the engines and transmissions last for years, I can overlook the lack of style. If not, what’s the point?
I got a top of the line 2023 Kia Soul. $24,000. So far so good!!
Took everything Scotty had to say something nice about this Kia. He missed the fact that the 2.0 engine is port fueled which is a plus, even he admits loathing DI engines. He also missed the hydraulic struts for the hood, which he mentions when reviewing other cars with prop rods. My ‘21 Soul has the 6 speed manual, so I missed the joy of the IVT trans (thank God).
GM BEVs, the ones to take them to the promised land, are breaking down on magazine writers, leaving them stranded.
I just bought a used 2022 Kia Forte in Fire Orange with 30,000 miles… I’m enjoying it so far!
My 2020 Forte has been super reliable and the CVT is its best feature! It effortlessly delivers 40mpg combined fuel economy without a turbo and GDI and its way better value than Japanese compacts, HOWEVER the rear torsion beam is extremely stiff and I curse the car whenever the road is bumpy. 😡
40 MPG on the highway is great
I got a 2018 Kia Rio Hatchback EX with out the CVT thank God, had it for almost a years it's been Fantastic no Problems excellent gas millage.
You love Toyotas that’s for sure. I am not really sure Toyota is all that. I’ve had a 2010 matrix where shortly after the 3 year warranty, air conditioning broke, dvd player broke. They wouldn’t give me a break as a Toyota customer, they said basically, too bad we can’t do anything. You are on your own, they don’t care, « reliable vehicle or not «
Yeah, Toyota fucked me over twice. I'll never buy another one again, I bought my first Kia a couple of years ago after the transmission crapped out in my 2016 Corolla. And it's been an amazing vehicle
All Cars Ok When They Are New.
60,000 Miles And The Trouble Starts😢
LC From Chicago 😎
Let me introduce you to ford.😂 My fusion had more problems 0-60000 miles. Almost problem free from 60000-140000 miles where it's at now. So once you replace all the bad quality control parts it's fine.
Dude, my 08 acura type s get to 60 in half the time. I got that used for $10,000 @ 90,000 miles.
The 5/60 full warranty makes these good short term then trade in vehicles.
What's better? This? or a Versa?
Electric parking breaks are dangerous because of my own experience back in the 70s when break lines rusted out on me and I didn't have any breaks and I got home by using the emergency break and that happened twice. How can you do that with an electric break
Really bad when your brakes break!
Unfortunately all new Corollas come standard with electronic parking, one reason why Forte is nicer
I have the Car and I am getting 43 miles to the gallon. I only have 7000 miles so far. No problems We enjoy it.
If I was looking for a brand new compact sedan for cheap which would you recommend this Kia Forte or a Nissan Sentra?
Drive them both. See which one you like and which dealer will give you the best deal and terms. Go online then to check out the dealer for customer satisfaction.
i got a new 2023 gt limited and its not a bad car. It have the 7 speed duel tran in it with turbo, its a fun car.
Civilian secretary at Randolph AFB in San Antonio bought a Hyundai when they first came out. After ten years of absolutely ignoring the oil and other fluids the engine blew at 100,000 miles. She junked it and bought a new one for almost the same price. She was a happy camper with the setup!
Hey Scotty are Hyundai’s better than Toyota’s now?😅😅😅
The KIA has an inline 4 cylinder engine?
Edmunds said the Blazer EV has more error codes than they have EVER SEEN. Bricked, stranded.
That idles so smoothly. 2000cc
Toyota Sequoia? Older. Around 200k . Is it worth it?
The new Corolla's are about 21k starting price, but they have CVT transmissions as well.
Dont they have real 1st gear?
Toyota has a launch gear on the cvt.@@jimkelly1613
New Corollas have a 23k starting price including the mandatory $1095 delivery fee that everyone must pay. So your 21k figure is false. Also here in Dallas, new Corollas are still marked up over MSRP due to extremely high demand
@@jimkelly1613 Kind of. They have a "launch gear", that reduces wear and tear greatly and makes for a smoother start off the line. But yeah, they cost a lot more than 21K.
Hey Scotty, I have a 2005 Subaru Outback and the transmission is hard shifting from 2 to 3 and 3 to 4 when it gets down to -25 Celsius on a cold start.
The trans works perfectly fine when it is warmed up.. I am thinking that the shift solenoids are weak and going out...
Is that a fair assumption and is that an easy cheap fix?
I really like my Subi and it is paid off several years ago.
As I see the prices for some of these new pieces of junk, I figure a few thousand is nothing to fix my car.
What are your thoughts?
I’ve got a 2020 Kia Soul with 60K and it has been fantastic. Their IVT is better than my wife’s Honda CVT.
hyundai n kia, bigger, makin more, sellin more, n giving toyota, n honda
a good run for their $$.
are these those are getting stolen? or did they finally fix that?
They are recalled and fixed!!
I just bought a 2023 Elantra 4 my granddaughter to commute from Boston to Dayton I’m hoping for 300thousand miles, (fingers crossed)
Better cross all your fingers and eyes too
@@wennerygunsmithing5213 stop playing with your blinky. Are you a man or a boy?
You should see the GT models very fun cars
I bought 3 Hyundai Accent 1.6L turbo diesel cars with actual automatic transmissions, not CVT. They are zippy AF with the turbo diesel. I had my personal one tuned also with Borla exhaust, remapped, EGR commanded to never open which boosted torque from 159 ft pound wheel torque to 212 ft pound wheel torque in a super light car. After tuning it still gets 40mpg and drives mostly like stock unless you hammer it because I left the intake side stock. I'd buy another one for use when I'm in the USA but they will never sell them. Interior is basically like the Kia there, except I added custom leather seats with extra cushion to combat small car ride and my wife is vertically challenged anyway. Biggest problem is getting the wife out of my car and into one of our Toyotas, which we also love. Fortuner and Hilux.
My 2020 Kia forte has over 64k miles on it. Still runs as the day I got it off the lot.
Hey that’s my best friend Andrew’s rental lol
I bought me a 2010 kia forte in 2013 with 60k miles. It finally gave out on me 2 years ago at 250k miles! Never really had issues with it until it was actually giving out on me.. and it was a super basic model, had to literally roll windows down 😅
I think Scotty had a customer with a Kia that was a few years old and it was burning a quart of oil every 1500 miles. The dealer told them that was acceptable under the warranty. Not sure what engine or model that was. 🤔
Toyota has the same thing - "if you burn 1 quart per 1200 miles it is considered normal" - it is universal for most brands.
My 2006 Ford Escape with the 2.3 L 4-cylinder engine burns no oil at 280,000 miles.
I have a 2016 Forte with a 6 speed. Got 188000+. It runs like a top. Been a great car.
My co worker bought a Kia and the I can see the primer of the paint because it chipping off. Great work Kia .
😂
@@mrgurulittle7000 trolls will agree with their fellow trolls. Typical mrslowbus7000. Did you take your schizo meds or no?
Your avi proves you're a lowly troll.
Didn't Peter Shrayer the guy behind Audi's TT get involved in Kia?
At 5:00, Scotty points out the mandatory 'Coffee break' feature!
Got a 2024 Kia went out of my way to get a manual. I’m out on cvts. Don’t care if I end up replacing a turbo, it’s not only something I can do, but is also 100k warranty on as much as I can, electronics etc cuz these cars now have so many electronics
Is it high risk for break ins though? I thought KIA’s were super easy to steal?
Scotty in Europe most ppl don't drive that much distances so most ppl have rather small or medium cars with small engines. Big engines dissapear because all governments taxe them too much. I my self bought a small Kia Picanto, 3 cyl with 999 cc engine, second hand for about 4000 e , y 2012 with almost 200.000 km and it runs very good and economic too. Average about 4,5 l cons /100 km. Went several times on holidays no problems at all, good brakes, heating, airco no turbo only 55 kw and as speed limits are quite strict in Belgium it is very satisfactory for me. Really had no expenses so far. Maybe in the US people need to shift to more modest cars that are more economic ...
Got 7k miles in 6 months on my GT-Line. Amazing car so far. Mostly city driving too. 26 mpg