E-Drums vs. Acoustic Drums (Opinion)

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  • čas přidán 23. 10. 2017
  • It is rather hard to compare electronic drums & acoustic drums, as e-drums are a tool to mimic acoustic drums. But which solution is the best for you?
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    Someone has asked me to do a video comparing electronic and acoustic drums.
    Ok, so first of all, I think it is really hard to compare the 2 since no one on this planets decides between acoustic and electronic drum kit on the basis of nothing. There are always factors that make one go for either electronic or acoustic drums.
    Electronic drums that consist the same components as a standard acoustic drum set are mainly a compromise rather than an instrument of choice. People’s circumstances like the place where they live, convenience or their finances are the deciding factor to rather go for an electronic drum kit and not for an acoustic drum set.
    What do I mean by that?
    An e-drum kit is a tool that was originally invented for one main reason. Acoustic drums are too loud and you cannot play them everywhere. That was the main intention to make e-drums as we know them today. Of course, there were some guys that wanted to generate synth sounds by hitting a drum pad, but the synth hype did not really survive the end of the 80s, at least not for conventional rock drummers.
    Almost every drummer would prefer real drums to an electronic drum kit including myself. But the problem is that most drummers do live close to other people, so they are forced to either play a quiet e-drum set or play nothing.
    30 years ago I would not have been able to play drums at the place where I live, but thankfully some geniuses invented e-drums and made it possible for me to play drums in the comfort of my own home, no matter where I live. And that is just great.
    E-drums have some positive and negative characteristics.
    Recording
    It is easy and cheap to record good quality drum tracks.
    Have you ever tried to properly record with an acoustic drum kit? Well, I did. I played drums in recording sessions myself and it was so much effort. You have to apply new heads to your drum set, they have to be tuned properly, you need good drumming mics for every single component of the kit, a proper studio room, a mixing desk and an engineer. And don’t forget that you should own a decent sounding acoustic drum set. If you record with a Pearl Forum you might get fired from your band.
    In the end, the sound you get out of decent “middle-class studio gear” is ok, but not outstanding. It is rather a compromise, cause recording gear, the engineer and studio time is just expensive and therefore limited.
    The e-drum set, on the other hand, can be plugged into a computer and run software like Superior Drummer 3. This is a drum sample software with high-end drum sounds, recorded with the best recording gear, by the best engineers with the best drum kits in the best studios of the world.
    The average drummer could not afford an equivalent acoustic setup in 3 live times.
    The e-drummer spends around 3000 bugs for a decent second-hand electronic drum-kit, a decent computer and Superior Drummer 3. He can now record a high-quality drum track in his bedroom. As long, as often and whenever he wants.
    And if he is a shitty studio drummer like me, he can even correct the mistakes afterwards. Cause this is what modern software allows you to do. And if you don’t want to cheat, you just leave the MIDI notes as they are.
    Maintenance
    Acoustic kits need new heads, sticks, and cymbals more often than e-drums. If you have a good e-drum kit with durable components, you won’t need to spend a lot for maintenance. Good rubber e-cymbals rarely wear and good quality mesh heads last forever if you do not use damaged drum-sticks.
    This does not include cheap e-drum gear. Cheap e-drum gear will definitely not last.

Komentáře • 132

  • @65Drums
    @65Drums Před 6 lety +61

    Really liked hearing your thoughts on this. There are ALOT of misconceptions about what edrums are, and how good they are. Most drummers have never played a really good Electronic drumset.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Even if, the one in the music store is horrible configured like you said. My TD-50 experience was like this:)

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 Před 6 lety

      *A LOT

    • @AudioReplica2023
      @AudioReplica2023 Před 6 lety +1

      65 Drums - exactly. Most drummers reject an Edrum bcuz they think is the same thing than the ones radio shack used to sell. Technology have evolved so much for musicians ...you can even play strings using your guitar now....like cmon! I really can't understand how ppl like that say; Hell yeah, real drums is the shit. And then after sit down on front of a computer monitor and start using fake Eq's and compressors to mix it. Its like...really?

    • @oysteinsoreide4323
      @oysteinsoreide4323 Před 5 lety

      @@AudioReplica2023 You can't mix a good soundtrack without compressing. Because the dynamic range of the earbuds that people use are too narrow to hear the full dynamic range of an original recording.

  • @TheSunMoon
    @TheSunMoon Před 5 lety +8

    Acoustic drums is out of the question for me. Space, neighbours, price (like you said, maintenance and for recording). I just bought an e-drums, to start learning!

  • @ermonski
    @ermonski Před 5 lety +10

    Nothing can beat the way acoustic drums sound and how they move the air around you. But for those of us who don't have the space or sound proofing to own an acoustic kit, the electronic kit is the way to go.
    I've had tons of fun on both types. Plus on e-drums, the slightly fake sound goes away when you start having fun pounding away, which is the point of playing music in the first place.

  • @sagiriizumi8079
    @sagiriizumi8079 Před 5 lety +3

    Look at it this way. If the audience is staring at the drummer because they are using e-drums, then they are paying attention to the drummer and the music. That's a massive advantage. Once you got their attention, kill it and they will cheer.

  • @AlexDrummer
    @AlexDrummer Před 5 lety +3

    You've got a great channel, with usefull information. I agree with all you said in this video but, i think the key phrase is "almost every drummer would prefer acoustic drums".
    And that's absolutely true because i think trying to find your "voice" over your drum kit is an amazing journey you just can't take with a electronic drum kit.
    Tuning your drums, changing heads, microphones, positions ..... nothing can beat that, except maybe playing your drums and letting them give you back the sound and power you worked for!😃

  • @ivanhornak7644
    @ivanhornak7644 Před 6 lety +10

    Also one plus of eDrums that wasn't mentioned is that you buy with one set up sounds of hundred drums, unlike with a real drums. And the biggest downside would be price for me. Hardware mainly.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      I don’t understand the downside. A high end electronic drum set is cheaper than a high end acoustic drum set. You cannot make a price comparison with a cheap acoustic set and the most expensive electronic drum set.

    • @ivanhornak7644
      @ivanhornak7644 Před 6 lety +1

      Vdrum Tips As a beginer I don't have overview of high end drums, but I had a choice for my 1st kit ever; decent eDrum kit for 1000-1200€ or decent acustic kit for 600-700€. And I went for eDrum kit only because of its versatility and also because I have neighbours. :D

  • @VNL-Yake
    @VNL-Yake Před 4 lety +7

    I have an acoustic set, personally, I love it. However, I would like to record and it seems that an e-set would be better. (I have a lot of time to think this over considering im only 14 lol) but if you guys have any suggestions I would be happy to hear them.

  • @rhythmcaster2018
    @rhythmcaster2018 Před 6 lety +2

    Last week I have (sort of) an acoustic gig with my bros. Just one i/o jack and we good to go. No more tuning. I wish I can play acoustic drum but your points are correct. It’s need a lot of money.

  • @JoshCameron
    @JoshCameron Před 6 lety +2

    Great video!

  • @ChrisBakerDrummer
    @ChrisBakerDrummer Před 6 lety

    Not pulling any punches.. I love it! I totally agree with all of your commentary. I can give a friend/client a drum track that I've recorded in my bedroom that sounds INFINITELY better than what they'll get at most any local studio. So many small-time local studios don't really know what they're doing with recording drums and the results are sub-par, in my opinion. Using my Roland kit with Superior Drummer 3 is just an absolute dream. These sounds are SO good and the playability through my e-kit is fantastic. Plus the ability to edit MIDI and really fine tune any hits as necessary! And people disregrading e-drums because of the look is arguably the most common. Which I get for live situations. But I'd hope more and more medium-to-small studios would get on the bandwagon of VST drum sounds recorded through e-kits. Just so much easier and with better results.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Thanks for your comment. Yes, I think a lot of small bands make the mistake to pay too much money for recording instead of going the cheap but very good sounding way.

  • @markomarkovic5729
    @markomarkovic5729 Před 6 lety +5

    Great video! Best regards from Belgrade, Serbia

  • @MacYYur4me
    @MacYYur4me Před 6 lety +10

    Good honest observations. Dude, some of your comments just make me laugh.

  • @BigBoAnimates
    @BigBoAnimates Před 3 lety +1

    i was told to get an acoustic drum set and i got all the disadvantages, including hearing loss. I'm only 17 and i'm having serious problems here :/

    • @BudderB0y2222
      @BudderB0y2222 Před 3 lety +1

      My ears are fucked up from loud sound too, like really bad. Not even a drummer but I want to start playing and I'd definitely be getting an electronic kit

  • @minisurfbanana
    @minisurfbanana Před 4 lety +1

    I had acoustic set years ago...i bought sticks and a practice pad 2 weeks ago to start practicing my rudiments. Now i purchased a TD27KV for $3400 with hihat snare stand pedal throne. A lot of Fcking money but the part it’s on a monthly from sweetwater for like $71 a month for 4 years so it’s a great deal.
    The acoustic set I was looking at was half the price just under $1500.
    My decision was basically the amount of practice time I can get with the drum set.
    I chose the TD27 cause it’s a lot quieter and I can practice at any time. So it just came down to noise for me!!!

  • @vigosun777
    @vigosun777 Před 5 lety +1

    Well if you are a band playing commercial music then the E drums would mostly likely help in different sounds from ambient 808 rap hip pop to pop to famous rock songs all in one click without any hassle. It really goes back to you what you said about it being a personal and circumstantial choice and reasons to why.

  • @gaborjaszfalvi1882
    @gaborjaszfalvi1882 Před 6 lety +2

    Another great video! Best edrum channel of all ;) would be nice if you upload a cover soon .

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +3

      Where is the block button? ....hahaha, thanks. Will do:D

  • @ReignJeffersonCTria
    @ReignJeffersonCTria Před 4 lety +3

    I'm not a hater of edrums they both have their pros and cons edrums are much better for recording especially if you don't have a good studio but acoustic drums are much more realistic they are much more inspiring to play because they are real and they sound the best..

  • @cbee7405
    @cbee7405 Před 6 lety

    Hey vdrum tips, random question, but I recently got the goedrum hi hat controller and in order to trigger it i mounted a cy12r/c on my hi hat stand. However, whenever i mount the cymbal on the stand it always leans to one side and spins. I tried tightening the rod of the hi hat but that did not fix either problem. Any ideas?

  • @daddydaughterchannel771

    Thank you for your well thought out position on this topic. It was helpful for me.

  • @Skullei
    @Skullei Před 5 lety

    One question: can the expensive e drums become unresponsive to the stick after a few years? If so would you have to replace the entire drumset or just buy that one peice that is unresponsive?

  • @TheSloppyDingo
    @TheSloppyDingo Před 5 lety +3

    Love the Beatles analogy!

  • @MikeLuke
    @MikeLuke Před 6 lety +18

    If I want to sound like the Beatles 50 years ago, I buy myself an expansion pack for EZDrummer2. 😉

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +3

      I am still waiting for the Toontrack Mike Luke EZX:D

    • @ChrisBakerDrummer
      @ChrisBakerDrummer Před 6 lety +2

      haha.. exactly, Mike! kind of like the old Apple ad that repeated "there's an app for that", Toontrack's slogan could be "there's an expansion pack for that". they've pretty much got you covered at this point

    • @ImOutsideTheBox
      @ImOutsideTheBox Před 6 lety

      look up NI Abbey Road drums, which is quite literally the same drum kit.

  • @foobar8478
    @foobar8478 Před 6 lety +1

    I picked up a 25KV 4 months ago when I moved into an apartment and It has left me speechless. It is a capable freaking kit and definitely gets the job done. It has also allowed me to demo stuff which I've NEVER been able to do with my acoustic kit.
    You are definitely right about quality though. You need to spend some coin to get something halfway decent. In my opinion anything lower than the 25, and the experience may be iffy enough to discourage you from using it.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Yes, the TD-25 is a beast in terms of sensitivity. And I also think 2000 is the minimum you should spend.

    • @scottbillings3677
      @scottbillings3677 Před 6 lety

      TD20 was flagship kit 10 years ago. so you are right but adjust your suggestion to 20. (I've owned my TD20 since 2006)

  • @aleksandarsavic6202
    @aleksandarsavic6202 Před 6 lety

    Really really nice review! Very systematic guidance!

  • @FoundationElectronics
    @FoundationElectronics Před 2 lety

    I could understand what you mean about the "look" of an Ekit, but to quote Jason Bonham "what are you here for? are you here to look good? or to sound good? I want ppl to remember me by my playing, not what my drum kit looked like"

  • @vincentdublino7136
    @vincentdublino7136 Před 4 lety

    Great job on the video thank you! I'm an ex drummer turn pianist, currently living in a townhome in the city. I want to get back into playing drums even though pianos my main instrument now. With piano, it's simple. Even an acoustic piano would not be too terribly loud for the neighbors. But there's no way I could set up an acoustic kit in the air and get away with it.

  • @shamiksrimany2595
    @shamiksrimany2595 Před 5 lety

    Thanks man helps a lot brooo

  • @mikehughes8886
    @mikehughes8886 Před 4 lety +1

    I have wanted to play the drums since I was in highschool, and that was 44 years ago. I have the money, the fitness and the rhythm so all I need now is to buy my first set and hire a coach. This video was what I needed to make my choice. Thanks for being frank and honest. I loved the commentary. I have my own 1,600 square foot man cave and plan on spending 4 hours a day every day playing until I get good at it. Now, I just have to figure out what high end V Drum system to buy. Any suggestions?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 4 lety

      depends on the budget...

    • @mikehughes8886
      @mikehughes8886 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Vdrumtips1 , After much research, I was lucky enough to find a gently used Roland TD-30KV with several upgrades. I found a coach nearby and pick up my new kit in two weeks. TOTALLY Stoked to start this new chapter of my life! Thanks again!

  • @robertlucas9867
    @robertlucas9867 Před 6 lety

    Great video.

  • @jjbelgium
    @jjbelgium Před 6 lety

    Dude, you're so right. I'm playing a old TD-3, and I will never exchange an e-drum kit for an acoustic. For lots of reasons, processed sound directly to mixing console, space, foldable, lightweight... But the more I see you playing, the more I want to buy a new one.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +1

      Don't fall for the Roland addiction, it is very dangerous! :D

  • @demonocusmetalocus3558
    @demonocusmetalocus3558 Před 6 lety +2

    I have come full circle i started out on acoustic drums,my 1st kit was a cheap crap kit ,i sold it a year later and got a pearl export kit,years later i got a crappy yamaha ekit,sold it a year later and got a roland td 9 now i have the atv ad5 module and have converted my old pearl export kit to an ekit so i'm back to playing my old acoustic kit but now its an ekit so i circled back to my old akit after 20 years. :)

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +2

      I went almost through the same steps:D

    • @chezchezchezchez
      @chezchezchezchez Před 6 lety

      Wow...and I'm still on the TD-9!
      Still love it.
      Am I silly?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      No, I had the TD-9 a long time and it is a great kit. Especially the module. Nice enough for home drumming.

  • @scottbillings3677
    @scottbillings3677 Před 6 lety +2

    Very nice. So many people who have never owned (different than playing in a store like you say) a QUALITY ekit but they feel that they know edrums. Where would guitars be if they only stayed acoustic.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Well, I would not compare electronic drums with e-guitars. The electronic guitar has evolved in a different instrument. The main use is with some kind of distortion, rather than amplification. (depends on genre as well). The e-kits purpose is still to emulate an acoustic drumset (at least for the majority of drummers) and the e-guitar is its own instrument. But an interesting thought..!

    • @josealfredfernandes
      @josealfredfernandes Před 2 lety

      @@Vdrumtips1 excuse me, which is the best edrum you recommend for beginners? First & last drum set, one time investment. I need the ability to turn vol up & down, for hearing safety reasons.

  • @boyerstudios
    @boyerstudios Před 4 lety

    Very good video. I like your opinion of Edrums vs acoustic drums. Very good

  • @meldiyer3904
    @meldiyer3904 Před 3 lety

    What kit are you using at the beginning of the video?

  • @glennnapuli7783
    @glennnapuli7783 Před 4 lety

    What edrum unit is that in the video?

  • @snambawade
    @snambawade Před 5 lety +1

    Which model is that ?!

  • @mariastone5104
    @mariastone5104 Před 5 lety +1

    I hate to say it but I got a feeling I'm gonna be selling me beloved acoustic drums because I'm wanting to make a 1 man band cover album of some Sabbath and shit like that!

  • @nickgoogle4525
    @nickgoogle4525 Před 6 lety

    Danke für das (und die anderen! ) Videos. Sehr informativ und super gemacht!
    Eine Frage zur Plattform. Die wackelt und schwankt doch recht stark. Das ist sicher ein Faktor, warum sie funktioniert und den Trittschall stark mindert. Wie wirkt sich die "Schiffsplattform" (nicht böse gemeint :) ) auf das Spielgefühl aus? Oder merkt man das gar nicht, da man selbst mit der Plattform mit wackelt?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Nick Google Hi Nick, danke für dein Feedback. Ja die wackelt etwas. Ist mir auf dem Video dann erst richtig aufgefallen. Beim Spielen stört es nicht und ich hab jetzt auch die Noise Eaters entfernt damit die Hihat nicht so wackelt. Es ist überhaupt kein Problem. Wenn es wackelt, funktioniert es:)

    • @nickgoogle4525
      @nickgoogle4525 Před 6 lety

      Danke für die Antwort :-)
      Ich hätte gar nicht gedacht, dass die Noise Eaters noch nötig sind / etwas bringen, wenn Du schon die Plattform hast.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Die Plattform isoliert ja nicht 100%. Die Noise Eaters isolieren 75%. Ich wollte mal testen ob ich noch mehr rausholen kann. Eine der beiden Lösungen reicht aber völlig aus. Beide zusammen sind unschlagbar.

    • @nickgoogle4525
      @nickgoogle4525 Před 6 lety +1

      Vielen Dank für die Ergänzung. Das hatte ich vermutet, dass die Plattform ausreicht. :)

  • @okentheflocken5318
    @okentheflocken5318 Před 4 lety

    In my opinion the acoustic drum kit ist the best. In my ears is nothing better than a loud, god looking drum kit. Only the feeling, playing it makes me happy. But for People who lives in a flat or something like that is a E-drum kit very nice!

  • @MusicJunkie37
    @MusicJunkie37 Před 5 lety +1

    Are those sounds from the module? That snare tho :O

  • @benjihuh927
    @benjihuh927 Před 6 lety

    Why do the headphones have wires? are the headphones connected to the E - drum set so the sounds of the drum sounds do not escape your headphones? I'm a novice trying to find a way to practice without having sounds of cymbals and drums and have them not annoy the crap out of my mom.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Sorry, but I don't get your question.

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 Před 6 lety

      Headphones are connected to module. Volume can be controlled there. Others wont hear what is in your headphones. You can also mix music in to play along with from your phone. There is still sound because you are hitting something with a stick but way less volume than regular drum set . you can also buy a drum or keyboard amp not guitar or bass that will let you control volume also.

  • @celilexus
    @celilexus Před 4 lety +1

    I wanna start learning so maybe e-drums are good to start with.

  • @maschinemademan9053
    @maschinemademan9053 Před 4 lety +1

    Dang the power went out. Can’t play my drums now..
    Dang my little sister poured water on my drums and fried it. Can’t play my drums now..
    Dang these drums are 10 years old and over time it’s started to short out. Can’t play my drums now..
    These reasons are why I go acoustic.

  • @vladutu99I
    @vladutu99I Před 5 lety

    The biggest question is, is playing a edrum set any different from an acoustic one? Can you practive most of your life on edrums and then play an acoustic set right off the bat when you finally have the conditions for one? Can you just swap between them at any time?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety +1

      Ryuu It is a bit different, but you can swap at any time for most music genres. Might not be the case for Jazz.

    • @vladutu99I
      @vladutu99I Před 5 lety

      @@Vdrumtips1 That's great, i don't think i was planning on Jazz anyway :D Thanks for the answer!

    • @merpmerp3815
      @merpmerp3815 Před 5 lety +1

      I had a large Tama Superstar (vintage (old), not the new one that they call classic) that I basically cut in half and turned one half into electronic (a to e) and kept the other half acoustic. I use electronic cymbals, but the feeling going around the drums is basically the same. However, I wasn't able to play the acoustics for a while, about a year, and when I got back on them, what a difference. The double bass took a lot more effort, I was fatigued more quickly, and my dynamics were for shit. I know if I was able to play more on the acoustics (unfortunately I'm not) I would get it back, but there is that to consider.

  • @shaunmendes8740
    @shaunmendes8740 Před 5 lety

    what Roland drum kit is in this video

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety

      That is a custom shell set with Roland Cymbals and TD-30 Module

  • @makuubb2365
    @makuubb2365 Před 5 lety

    How much is the cost of your electric drums in total?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety

      Boosted Fam Hard to say, I bought and sold components consistently. So no idea.

  • @connor7361
    @connor7361 Před 3 lety +3

    Your title is misleading. It’s says electronic vs acoustic yet you don’t give any points on acoustic only your opinion on electric

  • @Stretchwreckedem469
    @Stretchwreckedem469 Před 4 lety

    As much as I want to record with a real drum kit, my band is probably going to have to record with an EDrum kit until we find a way to record drums in a special shack or a space to where we can set up mics for an acoustic kit. And even when we get the space to record with acoustic drums, I don’t want my drummer to have to feel like they need to record with a $3,000 kit. If they need too, a $700 or $800 basic kit will do just fine.

  • @matthiasrambally1899
    @matthiasrambally1899 Před 5 lety

    I dont know but my hurts really bad with an acoustic drums since alot of electronic drums are smaller it's easier for my body

  • @evangeloskostakis8071
    @evangeloskostakis8071 Před 2 lety

    "they look like shit" is so accurate. People just think that because they see the early really shit modules and think that they'll never change. All these new advancements now made e drums close if not just as good as acoustic drums.

    • @adriansmith3008
      @adriansmith3008 Před 2 lety

      Yeah like the Roland VAD506, I’m thinking to sell my accoustic and electric kit for one of these, it’s like an accoustic and ekit in one

  • @sagiriizumi8079
    @sagiriizumi8079 Před 5 lety +1

    E-drums look badass live. New Order uses them. It matters how they "sound." Only troll musicians or musician wannabe types will shit on them. All that matters is if people are dancing.

  • @makkrohero59
    @makkrohero59 Před 6 lety +1

    I'm sad, i'm stuck with a Alesis dm6, and it sucks. I can't afford the big Roland kits

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Just save up some money and buy a used Roland drum set. A TD-3 or 4, save more and sell it after a while to buy a bigger one. This is how I did it, step by step. My first set was a shitty Fame kit, much worse than the Alesis one.

  • @DerVampyrEngel
    @DerVampyrEngel Před 6 lety +1

    Got to day I prefer EDrums I have played Acoustic Drums and they can be nice but a lot of the time they are inconvenient as you can't use them in a domestic setting , (You need a dedicated place to play them) and I like having hundreds of different drum sounds on the modules Running a Drum kit from a laptop is a bit risky and better to use a dedicated module if your going live but I like EDRUMS I guess its because I like electronic music anyway so edrums would be right up my street. I really don't care so much about traditional drummers 90% are all pretty back in time with the acoustic drums anyway If I could get a backing band together the first thing I make sure is the drummer was an electronic drummer NOT an accoustic drummer and the minute he thought of acoustic drums? Out the door / Bye Bye
    One thing that annoys me though is why the bloody hell do manufacturing companies try to make them like real bloody drums all the time? And another thing is I literally hate the way bass Drums are going , they are not the big drum but some stupid footpedal with a rubber base or even these small drum pads that move about the floor and they never use to have that till the 90's . My old Arbiter XTD102 kit has the same problem with floating bass drums till I got an extra pole and attached that to a 6 '' inch drum pad and attached both to the drum frame I prefer to have a big bass drum like the Traps Electronic Drum Kits do but at least if these electronic drum companies want to have small electronic Bass Drums they can at least attach the damn thing to the drum frames instead of having the damn thing float about all the time, thats bloody ridiculus

  • @KiroVencenzo
    @KiroVencenzo Před 5 lety

    I preferred acoustic drums but because how loud the drum is so I forced to use Edrum but it’s no compare for real thing

  • @dergroewirsing2611
    @dergroewirsing2611 Před 6 lety +1

    I like playing both. The one thing an eDrumset will never be able to do is to connect with your body. I played an TD-3 for years, and when I first sat behind an acoustic kit, just the feeling blew me away. Just stepping on the bass drum pedal was a blast. I literally could feel what I was doing.
    The way I have to play each of them is so different, that I tend to see them as two seperate Instruments that are not comparable to each other and each have their own place in music.

  • @thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396

    I still prefer acoustic drums. I just don't like the sound of electric drums. it's just not the same.

  • @ImOutsideTheBox
    @ImOutsideTheBox Před 6 lety +1

    07:45 fuck me preach it brother, you wouldn't believe the shit I get for using amp models for my guitars, from guitarists playing 30w solid state POS amps, who don't even know what the midrange knob does. One of my clients wanted to record with magnetic tape reels, cheap lo-fi reels from china, to get a modern hard rock sound, it's agonising explaining to them how shit that's going to sound compared to highly tweeked models DI'd into Reaper which will sound just as good as anything they're listening to on Spotify with very few exceptions.
    And rock musicians wonder why producers are flocking to hip hop and pop artists.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +1

      That is one of the new hipster musician type trends. They all want to record on tape now and are against anything digital for no real reason. Most of them don't even understand the technology (not the new one and not the old one) but insist on getting their recording produced like this. Most sound engineers pretend to process it old school but in reality, use a plugin. The hipster musician will never notice it anyway:D

    • @ImOutsideTheBox
      @ImOutsideTheBox Před 6 lety +1

      Vdrum Tips ignorance of the technology bothers me more than anything. I understand a preference for valve amps (though I think DSP will actually sound better by the 2020s), but If they knew what they were talking about then they simply wouldn't be thinking about tape reels.
      Even the synth guys are doing it now and shelling out thousands for busted gear from the 80s when they could have just downloaded a free reaktor ensemble.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      I heard the workflow is more real with tape, as you do not cut pieces together as often, but that's about it. The rest is just elitism and a hype. And the saddest part is, that musicians do it who aren't successful enough to afford this effort. I am happy that recording became affordable for everyone. They are not happy but nostalgic.

  • @TheFinalGamerRN
    @TheFinalGamerRN Před 6 lety

    Those are the M50X or the M40X?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      MX40X The50s are a bit better in the lows but not as neutrals as the 40s.

  • @mikelegofan
    @mikelegofan Před 4 lety

    Recently, I was to play e- drums ( church, which hired me, made a stream of performance)... This was my second time behind this shit( Roland TD4) the sensitivity of pads is waayyy different from acoustic kit, the dynamics... I am disappointed ☹️

  • @alvallac2171
    @alvallac2171 Před 6 lety

    What words are you saying at 2:14? "If you record with a ________, you might get fired from your band." It sounds like you're saying "pro forum," but that doesn't make any sense.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +1

      Pearl Forum (Entry level Drum set)

  • @schnuffschnuff3972
    @schnuffschnuff3972 Před 5 lety +1

    Where do you live? U sound like a german guy

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety

      Schnüff Schnüff That is top secret info:)

  • @Hexen558
    @Hexen558 Před 6 lety

    Yey

  • @EmondJeremie
    @EmondJeremie Před 6 lety +1

    Rammstein ! :) 6:50
    Do you know Michael Shack ?
    czcams.com/video/PBr5GTsA15U/video.html
    If that guy doesn't make you wanna play an ekit, no one will !

  • @guitar_md
    @guitar_md Před 5 lety

    My brother in law exclusively plays E-Drums and loves it. He recently recorded at a studio and they were really happy that he did, as it made their lives a lot easier.
    As for me, I'm a guitarist who just got into finger drumming using an AKAI MPD218 pad controller. I used to jam regularly with some truly awesome drummers, but jams have been nonexistent lately, and when I'm working on instrumental tracks in my bedroom studio, being able to add drums myself makes an entire world of difference. Being a rank beginner, I'm just using Kontakt Player and Drummic'a!, which are both free. To a real drummer, the MIDI pad controllers may be seen as a toy for children, but for non-drummers who want to make their own beats, they're a game changer.
    Not to mention I can compose and record instrumentals, drums included, and bring them to a jam or band practice to show my friends who can actually play drums and give them an idea of something I'd like to do or work on.
    Drummic'a! has a lot of options for EQ, and I simply looked up CZcams videos of people talking about how to tune drum heads, and when they got to the final sound, I'd replay it over and over and EQ each digital drum head in the program to sound as close as possible to what I was hearing in the videos. For a free program I think it sounds great.
    I'm having an absolute blast learning how to play drum beats on my MIDI pad controller, which is all I have room for anyway, and that's only possible because of this awesome technology.
    In a perfect world we'd have all the best musicians to jam with and best sound engineers to record with all of the time, for free. That's not reality. MIDI hardware and software have absolutely raised the "musical standard of living" by making music production far more accessible to far more people, especially people with limited musician circles and finances.
    This is also coming from a guitarist who was previously dead set on recording guitar only with microphones and a really good amp. Ever since getting my Focusrite 2i2 I've become a convert to Direct In recording despite owning some really nice amplifiers and microphones. The convenience of going Direct In is very hard to beat, especially for all those times you come up with musical ideas at 1 or 2 in the morning, when cranking an amp to record wouldn't be an option.

  • @edsalisch4322
    @edsalisch4322 Před 6 lety

    There are upsides and downsides for playing electronic drums. As a practice tool they are great because you can save a lot of money on sound proofing your living space. As a recording device, they are an adequate ersatz but still not as good as using microphones with a good kit. As any drummer or better yet musician knows, the more moving parts or the more complicated your set up is, the more likely things will go wrong. Murphy is always ready to arrive as we always said. My last gig in Germany, we showed up and I was playing a hybrid, nord drum 2... with tama house kit and my cymbal set up. Luckily for me, my stuff worked for the most part but my guitarist who had a lot of electronic gear and a laptop. It all failed. ALL FAILED. I would recommend if you are going to play live, play acoustic if you play electronic, use the module and avoid the laptop because, while I have seen computers die on guys in the middle of the show and then comes the tomatoes, water bottles or whatever. Keep it simple, stupid or KISS is the best way to go.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Well, in terms of recording I think they are now at the level with SD3. Oh the laptop at a gig is still a risk, I totally understand. I made the same experience at a live gig. The bands with electronics where mostly on the stage for troubleshooting. Agree.

    • @edsalisch4322
      @edsalisch4322 Před 6 lety

      Honestly, the Aquarian On or Inheads are the only things that give you the sensitivity with Ghost notes. Sure you see those gear videos on You Tube before shows but of course they have roadies and all of that crap. I was in a band one time and the other members hated me because we needed studio time for the drums where everyone else could record on their laptops and I would get offended when they put drum machine stuff on there. My TD20 rig and DAW always had horrible latency issues. Frustrating as hell.

    • @scottbillings3677
      @scottbillings3677 Před 6 lety

      I've recorded from my TD20 with no issues.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +1

      Sorry to hear that, but that latency issue can be solved. I had the TD-20 before and I had almost none. The issue lies in the setup (DAW, ASIO Driver and computer). You can only do it right if all that is working.

  • @KingGemini
    @KingGemini Před 3 lety

    Mans got more cymbals than drum heads lol

  • @AudioReplica2023
    @AudioReplica2023 Před 6 lety +1

    I think is kinda ridiculous this type of comparisons FAKE vs THE REAL DEAL. Compares SD vs real drums everybody vote for real drums ...but then go crazy mixing the kit using an SSL plugin emulation ...which is a FAKE SSL piece. Really stupid. So they want a real drum to mix it with fake eqs and compressors? 🤔 Nothing against the video but rather to ppl thinking e drums have no feature but a analog mimic does it?. 🤔 What some ppl don't understand is theres a bunch of albums out there right now which have used Superior drummer , Slate drums ...and nobody...said nobody can tell the difference. Ppl are so drawn to the visual thing instead of how it sounds that you could still play a drum track recorded with real drums and pretend is you playing and still they say it sounds fake ...just bcuz their eyes are locked into an electric kit. But wait...isnt that exactly what we have with superior drummer or slate drums? Hmm

  • @nunopumpkin
    @nunopumpkin Před 2 lety

    for me was e-drums or NO drums, so , no brainer

    • @courseFPS
      @courseFPS Před 5 měsíci

      Me too, even though e drums feel so much worse than acoustic drums atleast i can play!

  • @bowlsie5668
    @bowlsie5668 Před 5 lety

    "They sound shit" 😄🤘

  • @stevensimons4677
    @stevensimons4677 Před 3 lety

    Ooooohhh, i think thats a bit lame..beatles...seriously...they quit because the music couldn't catch up.

  • @csinggol
    @csinggol Před 4 lety

    I hate electric drum btw i like the classic

  • @danielwoger2217
    @danielwoger2217 Před 2 lety

    Acoustic are better.

  • @jwc3104
    @jwc3104 Před 5 lety +2

    With advances in computers, E-Drum wins. People in recording industry rarely ever record acoustic drum anymore... they all just use VST's, which is essentially an E-Drum. So I could say 90% ALL studio-recorded music is done with E-Drum. Raw acoustic drum sounds like SH!T. Honestly... the minute you touch the raw drum sound with Gate/EQ/Comp/Harmonic etc to make it sound better... it's no longer a true acoustic drums.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety +1

      JWC I agree that many producers use drums this way, however, I would like to know where you got the number 90%?

    • @jwc3104
      @jwc3104 Před 5 lety

      @@Vdrumtips1 I heard from a PodCast done by a KPop studio recording engineer. He said 9 out of 10 clients would NOT pay for an acoustic drum recording session. They all say VST drum (Superior Drummer) is fine. You see, it's all about the money at the end of the day. If you have to pay thousands of dollars extra for all the risk (delays and issues) of acoustic drum recording @ virtually no realistic gain... why would you?

    • @CaseyHuffmanCaseyHu
      @CaseyHuffmanCaseyHu Před 5 lety

      you're so fucking wrong it isn't funny lmao

  • @MySoundscore
    @MySoundscore Před 4 lety

    I can’t listen to your English pronunciation longer than three minutes without getting a headache ;)

  • @boyerstudios
    @boyerstudios Před 4 lety

    Very good video. I like your opinion of Edrums vs acoustic drums. Very good