Reducing Electronic Drum Noise
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- čas přidán 25. 12. 2017
- Your electronic drum set is too loud and you have trouble with neighbours? This video is about decreasing electronic drum noise.
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For the majority of people, there is only one main reason to buy an electronic drum set. Namely noise reduction! They don’t want to disturb others when playing the drums. Sadly, most e-drum kits are still too loud to be played in an apartment and no one has warned them about this before buying an e-drum set.
The most critical part of almost every e-kit is the kick pad. The impact noise of the beater travels through the floor and is audible from underneath. But other components can be a problem too.
Almost all electronic drum manufacturers are very good at hiding the fact that their drum kits are not nearly as quiet as advertised.
What follows is a disappointed drummer who constantly fears an angry neighbour knocking at the door.
In this video, I will tell you everything about e-drum noise and how to reduce it to a minimum.
I will tell you what gear is effective and what you should buy or build.
#edrums #vdrums #vdrumtips #roland #electronicdrums #drums
That was a great video! Covers all the angles and questions edrummers have on this topic.
It's our boy 65
yo
What am I doing here, I don’t even own an electronic kit
Not yet 😜
I usually research before I make major purchases also.
Knowledge is power yo!
His voice
You’re here with me….who also doesn’t have one either!
Fantastic work! This is going to be an industry standard video covering this issue for people around the world.
Thank you Mike! Glad you do not have to cope with noise problems:)
Literally just had a knock at the door for the noise I make playing my electric kit. 2nd floor apartment and the kick travels through the floor a bunch. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely love this. Just bought myself a Roland TD27kv2 and will have to figure out a solution for my office setup. This video will most likely come in handy. Hopefully I won't have too many issues with my neighbours.
numerous bullshit blogs and sites on the web on the subject and finally a professional straight, honest video. Many thanks bro! You nailed it.
Definitely one of your best videos
DUDE BRO love you’re kit damn it’s beautiful looks as good as an acoustic kit
Hands down the best video about v-drum noise reduction on the web. Detailed, to the point, honest and it covers everything.
About the segment ”Dampen your room”.
Acoustic treatment won’t help stopping noise entering other rooms or apartments. It’s used to treat the room you’re in to balance frequency levels. It’s good for getting rid of things like flutter echo or frequency cancellations.
Your knowledge is incredible! Thank you.
If you’re not into DIY, the manufacturer DEMVOX that made my sound booth also builds these sylomer platforms for drums (electric or acoustic). In fact, I placed one of these inside my sound booth, to be on the safe side. I put the electric drumset into the sound booth to also eliminate the clacking sound from the cymbal pads (and whatever noise the sticks still create on the mesh-head toms).
This is the most helpful video I've seen on this topic! Thanks!
Excellent video! Very informative. Thumbs up!
i love that DIY perks acoustic panel idea, i love his channel, never saw that vid before. i think my neighbors will be grateful i watched this video
Thanks for the detailed work! Appreciate it
Very nice tips here👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. My experiences are equal.
This was very very informative. Thank you!
Great presentation! Lots of good tips. I especially like the Roland KD9, but need to try one.
This was a lot of help, thank you!
Very well done - thank you!
I live on the ground floor but I still found this vid to be informative, cheers!
Good work. I think you covered everything. Thanks.
Almost, there are some new products in the meantime.
Ok. added to one of my favourite drum tech videos.
Cool
really nice video!
thanks!
GREAT TUTORIAL THANX!
I have no reason to be here as haven't played drums in years but this video was very well done. Good job!
Great video dude. Thanks.
Amazing video at all man!! Great Explanations!!
Thank you! Very helpful!
Great info!! Nice video!!
this was very helpful. thank you
dont normally comment on videos. very well done. thank you!
My problem isn’t neighbours, but hearing the sounds myself when playing with headphones. Especially the god damn ride symbol and hi hat. It’s drives me insane.
Great video man
thank you so much
it helped out a lot !!!
Great video!!
Excelent...amazing..greetings from Colombia!
Nichts klingt geiler im Ohr, als ein guter deutscher Akkzent xD
Ein Ostdeutscher Akzent klingt noch geiler! :D
Das ist dann das Sahnehäubchen auf der Torte ;)
wahnsinn
I live in a first floor apartment but I'm still wondering if the neighbors above would still hear me? I wanna be totally confident when practicing cause being paranoid about noise can be really depressing.
Most likely not if the building is well made. Do you hear them talking or do you hear anything but their foot stomps?
Vdrum Tips the only thing I occasionaly hear is foot steps if they are rushing to go to work or the slaming of their entrance door and I'm able to hear that only in the early morning when its very quiet.
If you do not hear them screaming, talking or doing anything else, then you should be fine.
@@Vdrumtips1 I don´t hear my neighbor talk, watch tv or so, sometimes I hear him scream :D and I hear his footsteps. Think he can hear me?
Also I plan on buying the Alesis Nitro Mesh Kit, Millenium mps 600 mesh, or Roland TD1 DMK. Which one is least noisy? I can´t find them acoustic sounds on CZcams...My Yamaha DTX450k was too loud, it even annoyed me xD
@@decaenofficial just fuck him and play some drums bro \m/
very good video, thank you very much
Excellent video.
Thanks Robert, hope it helps you:)
Good video!
Very very very helpful
Your videos are awesome. Thanks for sharing. I'm actually dealing with my noise reduction but with an acoustic kit. Some of these tips still useful.
Great video
Thanks buddy!
This really is a great and absolutely competent compilation on Noise Reduction. Unfortunately there are so many fairy tales about the topic in forums or even here on you tube. You show how easy it is to achieve dramatic improvements by following some simple rules. Well done!
I can only confirm all your tips. Thanks to your hints i also just changed from tennis ball to sylomer and am very satisfied. You do not need very much (if you do not sit on the platform) and you end up even cheaper than with the tennis balls.
A supplement: The protection dots for converted bass drums are mandatory if you play with felt beaters, they reduce the structure-borne noise (because they absorb energy), but give off more airborne sound. In combination with Sylomer, I have therefore made the best overall noise reduction with single-ply skins and a normal plastic beater.
Thanks! Yes, many products claim to be a solution but aren't. Yes, totally right about the protection dot, otherwise the soft beater will be shred:D
Congrats for this graet video!
Best video so far. Just purchased a td1dmk Roland, and I live in a apartament (6th floor). Tell me, guys, an EVA carpet (like a Dojo, tatame) with a good another carpet above could help me?
Good tips here! I moved in the cellar to practice because my house is crappy built and you hear EVERYTHING through the walls and floors.
I have 2 x KT-10's in my setup, very effective. They are fairly quite, it's still a thing hitting a thing. The other huge benefit to these is simplicity, and space savings. Oh yea, and you can daisy chain 2 of them together, so the double bass only takes one trigger input. Simply brilliant. Roland is very proud of them(there expensive), but they are great. Haven't got the Noise Eaters, i have heard they work great, but i think they are way to proud of them, sheesh. 150 ish each, come on Roland i know you dont want to give them away, but you can't convince me these cost more than 10 bucks to manufacture. I'll buy three right now, for 60 each, but 150 each, not happening.
Really pro video
For bass drum I would recommend a 'Softapad' if you can find them, it's like a sponge/rubber sandwich you can stick on the play area of your pad using strong double-sided tape. I use a double plastic beater so I still get the feel, but the noise does not travel, this is on top of my platform. Because of the pad thickness you can lose a little of the travel but heyho :).
Your drum tec set is a beauty! I was really considering it but was afraid of the import tax at customs with trumps taxes in effect adding another 20%.
I live in an old house with floors that basically float on wooden beams... with a decent noise isolating platform (IMO a must for e-drummers) I don't have any issues with my neighbors below.
My noise isolation platform consists of four layers, though: 2.4cm OSB (i.e. heavy, "lazy" stuff) on top of some neoprene dampening material (there was a rail construction site in the neighborhood and they had cutoffs of their vibration dampening material laying around, so I asked and got some for free), 2.1cm OSB (another fairly heavy, "lazy" layer) followed by some heavy-duty packaging foam.
Sylomer would probably increase the efficiency of that platform by quite a bit, but since my neighbors below are already happy, I'm fine with that and the most expensive stuff was obviously the OSB. Also, the platform is very stable with minimal wobble.
But: The neighbors above are having issues with my cymbals. There is very little I can do about that, aside from redoing the ceiling and I have a deal with them, but IMO, that is something you have to consider: Reducing noise going to your neighbors below is comparatively easy and can be done by investing perhaps a few hundred bucks, if you're going all in, but reducing the noise going to the neighbors above you is... well... very complicated. So: Moving to the ground floor in an old house might be just the opposite of what you want to do. If the house is fairly modern and the floors are "solid" enough, you're good in the ground floor, though.
Clairvoyant81 Good point. The cymbal noise is not the the most critical issue for the majority, but definitely a problem for some. Old houses are never drum friendly I am afraid:(
I am currently having this problem. Never had a complaint from people downstairs, but now that I have a new Roland drumset the first day the neighbor upstairs started to complain. She seems nice, but she really needs me to dampen the sound because it is driving her crazy.
Any suggestions on how to decrease the sound from the cymbals and hi hat? I have a Roland TD 27 kit, with VH14 D hi hat
One of the few videos I would reward with multiple likes if it was possible. What's left is leaving a comment for the almighty algorithm :)
Thank you very much for this informative video! Noise is the main reason why I'm still hesitant to get an e-drum set.
One question, if you don't mind: Would you rather recommend a DIY noise reduction platform, Roland noise eaters or even both?
12:50 "talk to your neighbors" is definitely the cheapest and most sustainable solution. I know the urgent need to play drums in the middle of the night, but maybe get a digital piano that you can play in these situations - with the nice side effect of practicing another instrument ;)
man.. where was this video like 2 weeks ago when i was buying a drum kit 😁
I am so sorry, it was still in production back then.
I used to own the Roland HD-1 with beater-less pedals (it was my first electric drumset), and I can assure you those were NOT silent at all. Perhaps that’s because they’re attached to the rest of the structure, allowing the vibrations to spread through the entire drum rack, and thereby, also into the ground.
Very in-depth video of basically everything you can do to reduce the noise of your e-drum kit. I did the tennis ball podium, which works perfectly for me (with the right amount of tennis balls), for the contact/pedals sound and used noise diffuser foam for the acoustic sound reduction in my room. I can play all night and never any complaints! However, you forgot one thing... the drumsticks!! Now I do realize that the drumsticks are very personal to any drummer, but the same goes for his pedal(s), so if noise reduction is your main concern then I really suggest to try a lighter or smaller set of sticks. So try out some maple sticks in stead of hickory. The Steve Gadd signature sticks you happened to have in your video are also a great example of such lightweight and low-noise sticks. And Balbex also makes a lightweight stick. Lighter sticks break easier on acoustic kits, but since we're on e-drums with rubber rims... hey, we're safe! Happy drumming all!
Best Video on this.
What about L80 Cymbals though? Gen 16s are extremely expensive
"talk to your neighbor, share a schedule and have an agreement"
This is exactly what i do and i recommend it !
And also : get a job with flexible hours/days where you can be home while your neighbors are at work haha :)
That is great. Well done for being diplomatic:)
Spot on mate 👍🏻, as long as the neighbors are easy going and not flogs 😄
amazing video, thanks!
isnt the thomann podium similar to what you have built yourself? could you maybe do a review of the thomann podium and compare it to yours?
I live in a ground floor apartment but the noise of my DW go anywhere-kit is just so annoying. the wall behind and in front of the setup is blank, wall dampening can already help a lot. Also the pedal causes a lot of vibration in the wooden floor. I have been thinking to buy a rubber mat (made for washing machine vibration) and put it under a casual rug and the drumset on top. there are 6mm and 10mm versions. ofc it's a price difference. do you think it can help? and if yes, would 6mm (+ rug) be enough?
i have the drumtec foam square beaters but they feel kind of light, and the issue is that they bounce all over the place, even when my spring tension is tight. Any solution to that? drum beater rings maybe?
How much was it all adding to it over the years if you did?
Great video! Are the Roland Noise Eaters as effective if the floor is carpeted?
Although it still uses a beater,the KD-7 with a felt beater is still pretty quiet compared to every other Roland kick pad.
Slicklickz The room noise might be quiet, but the impact noise is not great on these.
Fantastic video. I'm just exploring the possibility of getting into drums while living in an apartment, and this video was extremely enlightening.
Been playing 35 years only on real kits on stages and rehearsal rooms. Now I'm settling and need an as quite as possible e drum kit that feels as real as possible. Can you please give me some tips where to start? I have absolutely no idea whatsoever about drum kits... This video was very helpful and interesting but I feel it's a complete new part of drumming I have to learn.
Check out the roland VAD series or Efnote drums
I have a question, so hopefully you can get me the answer.
I live in an appartment on the first floor (dutch wise) or the second floor (english wise) so, there is only the ground floor beneath me.
In the ground floor, are only sheds to be found, so no one lives there.
The room im going to place my drumkit in, only has walls that are connected to my own appartment's rooms. Only on one side (not the side where my e-drum kit is going to be placed) is attached to the public stair case.
My appartment is east of the staircase, the neighbour is west of the staircase, and directly above me, there are 2 other apartments both east and west. So there are 3 floors both east and west of the staircase.
Directly down my whole appartment is my own shed, and a garage box.
So the question is, when i have a mesh headed e drum kit, the neighbour thats on my floor, but on the west side, wont hear me playing at all i presume without having a the platform you have build?
And for my neighbours that live above me, will they hear me playing?
In the end the question is, seeing the situation, if i should build a platform, or can go with a mesh headed kit, and maybe soft beaters, maybe even noise reflecting panels in the room.
Thanks in advance for helping me!
Just buying 1 of these Roland stuff i could isolate the entire room.
Great Video ,thanks. I am debating between e drum set or playing an normal set with mesh heads, I am open to you opinion ,,and any opinion in general .thanks
Should I get a noise eater for my snare stand legs?
What's your opinion on how sound from an e kit travels to the house next door, not in an apartment?
Great video! Would you recommend the Roland Noise Eaters for an acoustic kit? I have a drumset on an isolated studio, but I would like to reduce even more the vibrations from the bass drum :) thanks for your time!
Jairo Ubiaño Yes, they work for an acoustic kick too. Just make sure the kick drum is not too heavy.
Will the Roland NE-1 cups also work for the Yamaha DTX 402k?
Maybe an update is needed: I have bought the Silent-sticks from Adorno and they have decreased pad volume by so much, I can now even play in the middle of the night if I want to. 24$ for a pair (a bit more for the beater which i did not get), and you are good to go. Not
Much when you consider the issues you go through to else get
the Noise down. Played the sticks for half a year now with no visible wear.
Thanks for mentioning! We
Make the silent sticks, lots of drummers use them for electronic drums
Does a 5cm thick rubber mat that use in gyms along with a drum rug on top of it works by absorbing the vibration from e-drums? I lived in an apartment and plans to get an e-drum.
Is the pedal and drum rack(when hitting) still is noisy even with concrete slabs?
About to by my first kit after some time , Roland TD27 or pearl decade, I don’t have access to a drum tutor and that’s why I’m considering the Roland kit. Any advise would be appreciated ✌️
Does Roland KD-9 need isolation pads or it just needs isolation board?
Great video! Thank you! Question: @9:09--what is that assembly inside the snare drum and where can I buy/build it for my snare and toms???
I see and hear about so many solutions to dampen noise for the people BELOW you, but what about the people in the room next to you, are the roland noise eaters worth it? What about acoustic sound foam?
i really love your accent
Thanks, I hate it though, trying to sound more "American", but it is simply not possible:D
Vdrum Tips hahahahahz dont try. its so cute. im not a native speaker but im happy with my accent
Hey, great video ^^ I have been playing drums for 13 years now and i want to upgrade my old alesis to the Millenium MPS 850. The problem is that i am living in a apartment so i need a nice kit with a good feeling and sound but also quiet (and
Nysek The Millennium MPS-850 is the perfect choice
Puzzle Exercise Mat is also popular… Are they helpful?
12:40 By the way, it's easier to transport equipment. You could also give it through the window
I can't believe the price of the NE1s for just ONE puck.
Also surprised no one has taken apart these and the NE10 to figure out it's design and make a DIY version. Everyone is making gigantic platforms when they should just be trying to remake the small NE10s and small NE1 pucks.
I'm a new drummer and several months ago I started with the least expensive electronic kit in the store the Alesis Nitro. My apt is on the first floor of an old, well-constructed building, however there's a subfloor beneath me occupied by a psychotherapist. His office is directly beneath the spare bedroom where I play. One morning at 8:30 am, he complained of a vibration directly over his head. It was the kick. My landlord knocked and I invited her in and showed her my drumkit. We discussed the possibilities. Could I perhaps move my kit to the opposite corner of the apartment over the rarely used portion of the office below? My BF had a better solution. Speak to the guy and agree to work around his hours, he's only in the office 3 weekday mornings per week. And so it's midnight and I am getting ready to play for an hour or so. I can early play in the morning or on the weekends to my heart's content. My upstairs neighbors do not complain of noise or vibration. I will buy that Roland noise eater though. This is an outstanding video, thank you!
How about Auralex Hoverdeck V2?
May I ask you for the inner diameter of the NE-1? The diameter of the smaller inner pad basically. I'm thinking of putting my whole kit on NE-1's but the legs are relatively thick, 3.5cm diameter of the poles and 5.7cm diameter of the feet already on there. If anyone owns an NE-1 I'd really appreciate if you wouldn't mind sharing the diameter of the inner pad, thanks!
Fifiira I would say it is around 4cm. But keep in mind that the NE-1s only work with a certain weight. If the weight is too high, they get compressed and do not isolate anymore.
if you can't afford the "Noise eaters" try it with washing machine damper pads. Cost around 40€ for 30x pads.
12:36 I want to keep playing the drums very badly :)
I also want very badly to keep playing the drums (very badly).
Hello. Does anyone know if the
Yamaha KU100 Beaterless Silent Kick Pedal
Is compatible with the Roland TD50 module
I'm sandwiched between 3 floors in a apartment building. I use the thomann isolation podium with an alesis strike pro kit and a 24 acoustic kick drum conversion. I work in nvh and this podium metered. nearly fully eliminates the under floor noise from my kit. So sorry I completely disagree with your statement.
I have a kt-10 and kd-9 and still getting a complaint. Just ordered a noise eater, puzzle mat, and washing machine anti vibration pads for the poles. For those saying use headphones - we all are. It’s the vibrations
Roland td11. Yamaha mg06 or10XU Mixer. (1channel drum, 1 for youtube. 1 for mics singer or karaoke). (Mixer comes with cubase) No roland speaker. Logitech speaker! And real pa speakers. Laurindrums. Superiordrummer.
Neighbors nowadays are also more technological... they complain by WhatsApp
Never give them your number:D