Your brain on improv - Charles Limb

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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
  • Musician and researcher Charles Limb wondered how the brain works during musical improvisation -- so he put jazz musicians and rappers in an fMRI to find out. What he and his team found has deep implications for our understanding of creativity of all kinds. (Filmed at TEDxMidAtlantic.)
    Talk by Charles Limb.

Komentáře • 49

  • @mcspankey4810
    @mcspankey4810 Před 5 lety +18

    When musicians improvise they enter this almost meditative stage where things just flow out of them with ease. It’s amazing and I do it my self so I know how it feels. It’s all feeling in that state, hats why you often see msuxixians faces so full of feeling. At that point to there is literally no thought going through the musicians minds, more thought means less flow, so one has to practice mindful meditation at that point to stay in that flow. Many do it without even know though

  • @Billchu13
    @Billchu13 Před 11 lety +4

    Rapping is one thing... rapping at TED talk quite another. Balls of steel

  • @roidrage11
    @roidrage11 Před 8 lety +16

    when people do improv music they go into flow state.

    • @kooshikoo6442
      @kooshikoo6442 Před 3 lety

      Entering a flow state is really hard for a lot of people, and the best musicians are often much netter at it than others. I'm an advanced musician myself, but often I don't reach a flow state when I improvise, because of many factors. I´m working om it,but it´s very hard.

  • @spencejam1
    @spencejam1 Před 3 lety +3

    "...science has to catch up to art..."!
    Also really interesting in the clip of rap in the machine: you can see optimal breathing (the quick expansion of the ribs, followed by expansion of abdomen with phonation supported by the lower abdominal muscles) - Would be fascinating if the neuroscientists start to wonder about / talk about how breath and brain are working together to produce creativity.

  • @Jordarr8994
    @Jordarr8994 Před 8 lety +26

    Examine the brain playing giant steps

    • @annamakesmusic
      @annamakesmusic Před 3 lety

      Examine it playing giant steps backwards

    • @jeremyirland4586
      @jeremyirland4586 Před 2 lety +1

      Go back in time and examine the mind of the piano player stuck trying to solo during that iconic first recording.

  • @daisyfanning5546
    @daisyfanning5546 Před 3 lety +3

    This is a fascinating talk. Going through a jazz conservatory program, we did a lot of "trading" and interactive improvisational performance, similar to what was studied here, and it's amazing to see the effects it has on the brain. We were always told by our lecturers to "stop thinking and listen" when we improvise with other people. Exactly as described, you need to be “willing to make mistakes” and not be inhibited. That reflects what you see in the brain scan - the area of the brain involved in planning and "thinking" shut off, and self-expression takes over.
    It'd be interesting to see if anyone did a study on the mental health outcomes of "trading" and improvising collaboratively the way jazz musicians do. Anecdotally, it can be a great way to bond with other musicians, and I wonder if that would be reflected.
    Also amazing seeing a neuroscientist rap!

  • @MicahYongo
    @MicahYongo Před 11 lety +6

    One of the best TEDtalks I've listened to, just fascinating. I'm hoping I get to hear more in future from him on the questions he concluded with. Especially; 'Why does the brain seek creativity?' that for me is a biggy.

  • @alexxchavezee
    @alexxchavezee Před 6 lety +8

    "Science has to catch up to art", wow. Well it's going to take a couple of decades.

  • @estebanvenegas89
    @estebanvenegas89 Před 3 lety

    This is exactly what means for me a realized person. Thanks for this Charles, Jazz is not dead!

  • @EncinoRecords
    @EncinoRecords Před 11 lety +7

    would the language parts not light up just because your sort of going "booby dooby" in your head?

  • @draconian99
    @draconian99 Před 11 lety +19

    my right ear feels lonely :(

    • @CogneOmens
      @CogneOmens Před 2 lety

      Same I was wondering

    • @adamp.1732
      @adamp.1732 Před 3 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/MkRJG510CKo/video.html (same vid but with fixed audio)

  • @gooberging
    @gooberging Před 11 lety +4

    thanks mate, i was wearing my headphones in reverse.

  • @MaggieFloats
    @MaggieFloats Před 9 lety +5

    Awesome scientific style rap, hehehe, love the research by the way

  • @lamcho00
    @lamcho00 Před 11 lety +1

    awesome presentation

  • @arhabersham
    @arhabersham Před 11 lety +2

    Scientific knowledge can even provide an Asian (culture not that much known for rapping) into rapping in TED... is amazing all we can do when we crack the mysteries of stuff :D

  • @ChrisWoodsViolin
    @ChrisWoodsViolin Před rokem

    Nice video I really dig it

  • @JoshuaChowabc
    @JoshuaChowabc Před 11 lety +1

    I was definitely doing that! But great video so DFTBA!

  • @punkseth1
    @punkseth1 Před 7 lety +1

    good ted talk

  • @colepeterson9961
    @colepeterson9961 Před 6 lety +1

    what about rehearsed speach vs talking about a subject without preparing for it??

  • @GWOSAPAT
    @GWOSAPAT Před 6 lety +2

    Dr. Charles is cool

  • @politereminder6284
    @politereminder6284 Před 3 lety

    This was awesome!
    The crowd was dead on that freestyle though. 😅

  • @dirtybirdsf
    @dirtybirdsf Před 11 lety +3

    Sounds like a thought experiment to me. ;}

  • @colepeterson9961
    @colepeterson9961 Před 6 lety +1

    if you want to compare it to language please provide an assessment of language along the same guidelines

  • @Jordarr8994
    @Jordarr8994 Před 8 lety +1

    That Bud Powell quote though

  • @JoshuaChowabc
    @JoshuaChowabc Před 11 lety +1

    Yup, me too.

  • @lyricalloonytoon
    @lyricalloonytoon Před 11 lety +2

    Where's the sound??

  • @xaxaxa764
    @xaxaxa764 Před 3 lety +1

    10:24 got a match - chick corea

  • @MrForestExplorer
    @MrForestExplorer Před 5 lety

    This rapper needs to get permission to shoot his next video in the FMRI machine... Could be a dope setting for a vid..word. ?

  • @VIsTheMusic
    @VIsTheMusic Před 3 lety +1

    How about study someone like me who has never had classical training and is someone who improvised my entire sets, hours and hours long, on the spot, spontaneous and often with other musicians, sometimes they are way more advanced etc, all genres. Study me?

  • @Haywire469
    @Haywire469 Před 11 lety +2

    who else unplugged there speakers and plugged them back in thinking they were broken

  • @RedStefan
    @RedStefan Před 11 lety +1

    Where is the right audio?

  • @benfox8709
    @benfox8709 Před rokem

    A little got a match reference at 10:25

  • @ceciliamendezpacheco9829
    @ceciliamendezpacheco9829 Před 11 lety +1

    Tyyyy tOt y

  • @Zaharik1
    @Zaharik1 Před 2 lety

    3:00

  • @Thatguywhoexists
    @Thatguywhoexists Před 11 lety +1

    arrgh, left channelll!

  • @i3e5l4
    @i3e5l4 Před 11 lety +1

    Neat, Mitt! #MittTheQuotingCat on Instagram

  • @mnm2156
    @mnm2156 Před 11 lety +1

    he's so cool. DFTBA!

  • @MultiMam12345
    @MultiMam12345 Před 2 lety

    Talk about music. Audio only on the left. Come on Ted. Check your uploads and your youtube department.

  • @lucasbarnes6436
    @lucasbarnes6436 Před rokem

    This guy needs Harry Mack

  • @georgegalamb7523
    @georgegalamb7523 Před 6 lety +6

    This is the wrong way to study and analyze "creativity-science". Why? Because these "musicians"(in this video) are not "inventing" the improvisational music-style. They've learned it, and they've practiced it enough earlier to recreate it in a very similar way. Improvisational jazz-music and rap-music have been played many times by so many musicians that it doesn't take much creativity to copy it and reproduce it. So, where is the true creativity here? These scientists have no clue how to study creativity--creatively, accurately, scientifically.
    If scientists truly want to study the "creative" brains of improvisational musicians, scientifically, then they should choose their musicians very selectively and carefully. They should select only those musicians or artist, who are truly "inventing" their style of improvisational music. That musical piece should be a type of "experimental"-music, of which melodic part is reaching beyond any other style of already existing music style. The improvisational musician should literally "invent" the melody on the spot, in the fMRI machine(or whatever they are using for brain-scanning) not recreate a music-style that they are already know too well as they did in this video.

    • @josshlegg8647
      @josshlegg8647 Před 6 lety +5

      if you set the requirements for creativity that high, im not sure that 'true' creativity actually exists. No persons brain can just generate new things in a vacuum. When we think creatively all we are doing is combining seemingly disparate bits of information that we already know

    • @mcspankey4810
      @mcspankey4810 Před 5 lety +3

      George Galamb I don’t think humans today meet ur rly high standards on creativity

    • @soarornor
      @soarornor Před 2 lety

      I agree entirely with what you’re saying. I was thinking the same thing. My own experience with music creation is completely created on the spot with no preconceived anything. I never know exactly what I’m going to do. I hit record and go. My music improvisation is usually with synthesizers, sequencers sometimes, signal processors and mixing desk. My music is often slow, beatless, but highly descriptive and evocative. What is played and where it’s placed is just a flow towards fulfilling the piece. It is a highly meditative state, akin to essentially being a receiver.

  • @garyhighley9022
    @garyhighley9022 Před 3 lety

    Jerry Garcia=rap aint music :)