Very simple: 1. Submariner less flashy, won't get scratched as easily. 2. GMT very flashy (looks amazing in the light), but this comes at the price of easily being scratched. The GMT is the Sub's rich flashy brother. Thats about it.
They are both beautiful pieces. I am more partial to the GMT as all my family is in different time zones and it makes knowing what time it is by them possible at a glance.
The polished centre links can be brushed for a reasonable price, so if you were passionate about the GMT function and design, the centre links shouldn't really be a make or break.
Daniel Evans Yeah, but then it just gets scratched again relatively quickly and you can only brush it so many times before it starts to affect the shape of the metal.
I think you're confused. Brushing the center links means they would be brushed like the outer links and look like a submariner bracelet which doesn't show scratches like the polished center links.
While the Submariner is always a popular watch, it does seem like the less common BLNR 'Batman' is holding its value incredibly well. I've often seen them on sale used for more than MSRP, which seems insane to me. When I had to make this exact choice, I went with the GMT because I do travel extensively for work, so actually use the GMT functionality several times a month, and also have family in another country. So the GMT is great for tracking two time zones, and also quick referencing a third time zone, say to make a phone call and to check the time in another zone prior to placing the call. If I still lived in the UK and did not travel, I am 95% certain that I'd own a Sub. But with my job, the choice was GMT. Personally, despite the popularity of the BLNR, I find the original LN black on black version the best, in that it has more a classic Sub look and is more versatile than a watch with a big chunk of blue on it. I think the clear choice here is UTILITY, as mentioned in the video. If you don't travel or reference timezones a fair bit, then there is very little point in choosing the GMT. Although I think it does dress up a little more than the more tool-like Submariner. The good news is whether you choose the Batman or Hulk, the regular Sub or regular GMT, I don't think you can go far wrong. You'll have an exceptional timepiece that can last many decades, and really can be a collection of one. Once I got mine, I stopped shopping for watches, and wear mine every day.
Couldn't agree more with what you just said!! All so so so true. Ever since buying my Sub I haven't looked at any other watch, which I never thought would happen!!
I love the black dial GMT, but for an investment piece better to stick with the two done bezel. The batman is great but the bezel is just too damn busy for every day wear. I wanted to love the GMT but I couldn't get over how large the new numerals are on the updated model. The 41mm sub is just great!
The Submariner just oozes pure classy luxury, elegant simplicity and rugged tool-watch all in one package, few other watches do that so well. I could see that looking comfortable on the wrist of a deep-sea oil platform worker as well as on the wrist of a company director.
Two different watches designed for specific uses, however, both are great for "general" use. I like the GMT II more because I can dive with it (100 meters) and it's a dual time zone piece; the Sub is only a dive watch.
I have both of these references. The gmt is getting more wrist time at the moment. Just something about polished centre links. Feels more ‘Rolex’ if you know what I mean. Love the sub equally though. More understated and love the way the brushed steel changes in different lighting.
I’m so torn between the two, I travel a lot with work and would use the GMT’s feature, however I just prefer the look of the submariner’s bezel and even more importantly, the non polished links.
Did you mention the Sub bezel turns one way for safety purposes (no way to accidentally increase dive time). I have the 116710 (non-ceramic version), with the the 3185 movement and twinlok. Good review.
Great video Dylan. I own and love both of those watches. The GMT II is my everyday watch. Its a little lighter and the dual timezone feature keeps me on task. My Submariner has a two tone bracelet with a sapphire blue face which I feel looks classier for an evening out on the town.
The no-date, two-liner Submariner is my favourite. I could make good use of the GMT function for work but I love the clean, simple dial on my Sub. That said, the Batman GMT is quite tempting...
I like the way you talk about these watches. Not "blasé" but very natural. Not like you're trying to convince people of a commercial message, but just the truth as the truth is. Fantastic!
Good fair review but second hand GMTs are selling for much more. I think maybe you just had the script backward? Subs go for 6 to 10k usd. You can’t touch a gmt for less than 10.
The GMT II is a better bang for the buck in the used market. If you're not a diver and only plan to go swimming/snorkeling with the watch, the submariner is more expensive for a very little benefit. The bond aesthetic is largely achieved with either watch even though Bond wore the submariner for obvious reasons. If you're diving to a depth where you would be concerned about your watch failing, chances are you will be using a dive computer to give proper readings instead of a wristwatch. Also you can use a Seiko Turtle PADI for only $300 that is ISO certified and well respected in the diver community for many years for such activities. The primary attraction to purchasing a Rolex is for the value of owning a luxury piece that is rugged as well as beautiful and possible also to reflect wealth in the and esteem in the eyes of others. If you're buying new and wish to retain resale value, the submariner is the better option as the speaker mentions. Another thing to note is that Rolex watches don't tend to climb back up in value until they reach maximum depreciation around ten years in age; so your submariner won't likely bring much money unless you keep for a very long time; however, should you find yourself in a position needing to sell the watch in the short term, the submariner's popularity will be a saving grace to regain most of your money provided it is in top condition and only a roughly three to four years old.
Bellerophon 911 Subs are going for $1,200-3,000 right now on the grey market. You could literally buy 2018 Sub today and sell it tomorrow for more! Look at ANY grey market site Bobs, Jonas and Chrono are good sites to attest to the Sub market. New Rolex subs have a waiting just to be able to purchase the watch from an AD! Subs are a great watch for many reasons, but waiting 10 years for it to go up in value is just wrong information to put out on a thread.
Crybabyteamo Thanks for putting this out there! I noticed it just after I finished the video. I can't comment on the difference in comfort as I didn't really notice it but you can see the depth difference
You're welcome. I guess on flatter/bigger wrists there isn't that much difference but I was wearing my SubC when I tried on the batman at the AD, The difference was so obvious and I just had to take it home. Always enjoyed your video with the good balance of background and specs, and wonderful shots on the details and how the watch play under light. Please keep up the good work and keep them coming.
Dragonnetx Paul $11-$15k preowned or new in 2nd market. Discontinued and impossible to find at an AD’s. GMT for me as i see Subs everywhere, i rarely see GMT’s.
Richard Sun a pre owned Batman was at the price range at around 18-18.5k before it was discontinued and taken over by the jubilee bracelet Batman. As for the black GMT I have not checked on the price lately
It is really nice to see the scratches comparison between the 2 watches. I was on the fence as to which one to get for a everyday watch. After watching your review I definitely choose the Submariner over the GMT II. Keep up the good work mate.
really nice video, i prefer the SUB, i just love that simple dial, the easy adjustment of the bracelet and i use really often the diving bezel. But for someone who travel a lot the GMT could be the perfect choice.
If the AD offers you a GMT, get the GMT. If he offers the Submariner, get the Submariner! I own a 2018 Black/Black GMT but I once owned a 1990's Submariner. Don't overlook the Submariner no-date, as it compliments other Submariners in collections, such as the Hulk, Bluesy, or Smurf.
I used to like the simplicity of the Submariner. It's still a classy looking watch that will remain timeless over the years. But i've recently grown to really like the overall look of the GMT. And the GMT is a very functional watch with the different time zones etc and you can make use of the bezel. As for the Sub or other dive watches, we don't really use the bezel during normal daily wear.
Only ever give ‘your’ opinion of the watches and never ‘we…’. I have way more use for the hour timer on the Sub. I’m still to get the proper use out of the GMT. I use the GMT like the dive bezel when timing something but it’s def not as clear to read for this function which I’m aware it isn’t designed for. I wish the new Sub came in a 39/40mm and not just 41. It’s a bit 41mm which is chunkier and 10 grams heavier than my speedmaster. I’m still to try the GMT on the polished oyster. So far I’ve just had the pleasure of wearing the GMT on jubilee. There are size differences that make a big difference even if it’s one mm
The question for me is "Do I travel more often than I dive? " In which case it has to be the GMT to have a practical value! After all the aesthetics are pretty much the same!
That looks like an older GMT. The newer ones aren’t like that. You can control just the date now. In fact, you can go back or forward on the date now, in case you cross time zones where you’re “traveling to yesterday” - which is actually an interesting feature). Good video just slightly outdated and comparing a 5 digit GMT to a 6 digit SubC. Also, now, the clasps are the same size although the GMT still doesn’t have the glidelock extension.
Thank you for a great review and comparison. You're spot on. I ended up selling my GMT and going back to the Sub. I love my sub. I really hate how the bracelet gets scratched so easily on the GMT. I also felt the GMT is dressier. Lastly, anytime there is color introduced, I felt it was overall limiting, except the red writing on my 50th anniversary Deep sea. Love your channel, keep up the great work.
Love them both. Have a 2016 two tone blue Sub, and a 2018 Pepsi GMT Master II, with the Jubilee bracelet. Also a beat to crap 1996 black sub no date that I dive with. I really like the GMT with the Jubilee. The polished center links just sparkle in the right light and is very comfortable on the wrist. The two tone Sub is my everyday and I never get tired of looking at it.
It's good to reward ourselves sometimes . While I'm not one to spend on high-end watch (I spend too much money on travel, lol), I can appreciate your gorgeous and timeless watch. I love how it's a symbol of all your hard work.And i choose NKUWAN every time honestly
Submariner forever!!! Fun fact!!! Ian Fleming's first Bond novel 'Casino Royale' published in 1953 and guess what??? He gives the literary James Bond-007 character a Rolex Submariner. In the films though, Bond goes thru a plethora of different watches starting with 'Dr.NO'-1963 Sean Connery starts him off with guess what??? A Rolex Sub!!!
Had them both. The sub is cleaner YES, but the GMT is a little more fun. I ended up getting the Batman and think I'll stick with that since the added blue is so nice.
Thanks for a great review! I wish i found your website & reviews earlier, would have saved me a lot of research time. I have decided on the Sub-C even though I am an airline pilot. My iPhone wakes me and gets me down to the hotel lobby for the airport shuttle on time, wrist watch might be buried under pillow. Sub-C is so clean and original and will remain after my demise. Denver, Colorado USA
Hi Dylan, I'm certified and typed in Boeing 737 series and for about the last 15 years been flying the Airbus A320 series, 319, 320 and 321's. It is a great job but like anything else can get hectic at times.
Toddao I agree with you. I am also an airline pilot and bought the SUB-C great looking watch and love the bracelet. Would be interesting to make a study on how many people actually use the functionality of the GMT after they buy it.
Great video. This is the problem I have, I can't decide which one to save up for and ultimately purchase. I love the Sub, but there is something about the GMTII which makes me think k that if I didn't choose it over the Sub...then I would regret it. I really don't like the super shiny bracelet on the GMTII though... Ah well, do now I'll stick with my Omega Seamaster Pro.
Love this chanel! I'm learning a lot about my favorite watches I really like it. I had a question if you could make a review of the Rolex Sea-Dweller and campare it with a Submariner!?
On the GMT, I had a Rolex Dealer tell me that you can take to a jeweler and they can Brush the Center link that is polished. Know there have been a few comments on that. Can that really be done easily , if so would it impact value of watch?
Why didn't you mentioned the differents in power reserve? 48h vs 70h? or is this something Rolex just introduced a little while a go? on the upside: nice review! thanks for the extra knowledge.
I prefer the GMt hands down but the polished clasp and centre links are a deal breaker for me - ruins the whole aesthetic of the watch - goes from being tool watch to a scratch magnet.
Mate, Bond never wore any Date Sub. I think Sean Connery wore a 6538, a no date sub, which still is regarded as the finer example of a sub because of it's uncluttered dial. Many horologists dislike a date dub. It would be really nice if you bring these topics to the table, not only focus on consumer mentality. Thank you.
Yeah, I like it especially with the roulette datewheel, in this GMT we don't have it. In 6542 and in some early datejust this datewheel was present, love it! But not on a sub, just think how bad a 6538 would look with a cyclops .. ugghhhh
To many people Worth, the films are more real than the books. After all the films have been around since many of us have been alive. And I'm sure there are many people who have seen multiple Bond movies who have never read a single Bond book. So to many Bond is what they saw with their own eyes, not some character from a book.
I think it’s really not a big deal with the date of the gmt. I mean, how often do you really need to set it? Furthermore, I really..y thing the 100m on the gmt is underrated. It has almost the same case and the same trip-lock crown as the submariner.
Outstanding pieces. After putting several children through college, my wife and adult children surprised me with a Oyster Date-Just 10-yrs ago as I wanted a Rolex for 20-years. I'm amazed at how many people can afford dive watches at this level... I don't begrudge anyone, it's just surprising because the prices are not for the faint-hearted (smile). For now, will continue to enjoy watching these watches. I enjoy your no-frills video approach. Be well.
Very nice comparison although the cases did change when they went to the super case (wider lugs). But I have often wanted to see these watches side-by-side. I subbed you too.
Question: Are the numerals and dots on the black GMT Bezel white, or white gold? Are they identical in material and color of those on the Batman model, or are they different? On the Batman it seems like you get white ones, whereas on this black GMT they seem to match the color of the bracelet rather than the color of the hour dots on the dial. Comments?
Thank you for this video Dylan always enjoy your videos. I love the GMT it's a great watch BUT the Rolex Submariner Ceramic is THE BEST WATCH KNOWN TO MAN!!! It just covers all bases. You won't lose money on it and it will surely out last you.
So many people keep saying rolex is perfect and there is no such thing as imperfection. Well, two of my rollie doesn't change the date at exact midnight and the logo on screw down crown doesn't align perfectly on both. Now where Breitling everything seem to spot on and align dead center. I know the date change can be fix and not sure about the crown.
@@technom3598 Ya'll Batman BLNR fanatics should know your place, the video as well as comments talk about the Black GMT Master II (and the Black Submariner for that mayter) Obviously, the Black GMT is the one being spoken of as discontinued! Bruh. People so butthurt of miscommunication/misunderstanding. 🥴
Damn! those babies have been worn. I had both on my wrist and the decision was for the GMT. I pretty like the polished bracelet. It's more dressy and luxury. But I can feel you with the tooly look auf the Sub. It's like Audi vs BMW
I am torn between this two as my first Rolex. I like the cleaner look of the submariner but I like the function of the GMT. I already got an Omega Seamaster (dive watch) and Panerai (diver also with GMT). Look (Submariner) or Functionality (GMT)?
Good vid, thanks, deciding on one of the two. Question please, would you recommend buying either watch without box and papers? From a reputable seller. thanks.
Thanks Dean. We would not recommend buying watches without box and papers, box is not a massive issue, but no papers is not the best. Better to spend a little extra for a piece with papers, you'll be grateful you made that decision if and when you come to sell. We don't sell watches without papers, its just too risky.
Hi, since last year I was thinking about getting a Sub. But, I can't make my mind up now weather to get the GMT II. Larger money investment (Sub) , or uncommon but still holds value (GMT II)?? thankyou.
Either one you go with you will love. You can't make a wrong decision between these two. Just depends what you prefer, the design differences are subtly different, the polished centre links are one of the biggest differences so see what you think of that on your wrist vs the brushed sub.
Very simple:
1. Submariner less flashy, won't get scratched as easily.
2. GMT very flashy (looks amazing in the light), but this comes at the price of easily being scratched.
The GMT is the Sub's rich flashy brother. Thats about it.
They are both beautiful pieces. I am more partial to the GMT as all my family is in different time zones and it makes knowing what time it is by them possible at a glance.
Waited for a deal on either and a GMT came along. It is truly beautiful and keeps excellent time. Love it!
I like the sub because the polished centre links of the GMT scratch too easily
Trevor Phillip
Trevor Phillips the sub sits very high on the wrist but I know what you mean
The polished centre links can be brushed for a reasonable price, so if you were passionate about the GMT function and design, the centre links shouldn't really be a make or break.
Daniel Evans Yeah, but then it just gets scratched again relatively quickly and you can only brush it so many times before it starts to affect the shape of the metal.
I think you're confused. Brushing the center links means they would be brushed like the outer links and look like a submariner bracelet which doesn't show scratches like the polished center links.
While the Submariner is always a popular watch, it does seem like the less common BLNR 'Batman' is holding its value incredibly well. I've often seen them on sale used for more than MSRP, which seems insane to me.
When I had to make this exact choice, I went with the GMT because I do travel extensively for work, so actually use the GMT functionality several times a month, and also have family in another country. So the GMT is great for tracking two time zones, and also quick referencing a third time zone, say to make a phone call and to check the time in another zone prior to placing the call.
If I still lived in the UK and did not travel, I am 95% certain that I'd own a Sub. But with my job, the choice was GMT. Personally, despite the popularity of the BLNR, I find the original LN black on black version the best, in that it has more a classic Sub look and is more versatile than a watch with a big chunk of blue on it.
I think the clear choice here is UTILITY, as mentioned in the video. If you don't travel or reference timezones a fair bit, then there is very little point in choosing the GMT. Although I think it does dress up a little more than the more tool-like Submariner.
The good news is whether you choose the Batman or Hulk, the regular Sub or regular GMT, I don't think you can go far wrong. You'll have an exceptional timepiece that can last many decades, and really can be a collection of one. Once I got mine, I stopped shopping for watches, and wear mine every day.
Couldn't agree more with what you just said!! All so so so true. Ever since buying my Sub I haven't looked at any other watch, which I never thought would happen!!
I love the black dial GMT, but for an investment piece better to stick with the two done bezel. The batman is great but the bezel is just too damn busy for every day wear. I wanted to love the GMT but I couldn't get over how large the new numerals are on the updated model. The 41mm sub is just great!
The Submariner just oozes pure classy luxury, elegant simplicity and rugged tool-watch all in one package, few other watches do that so well. I could see that looking comfortable on the wrist of a deep-sea oil platform worker as well as on the wrist of a company director.
Two different watches designed for specific uses, however, both are great for "general" use. I like the GMT II more because I can dive with it (100 meters) and it's a dual time zone piece; the Sub is only a dive watch.
100 meters is not for diving
@@nicob3226 unless you're going real deep, most recreational diving is well below 100Meters.
I have both of these references. The gmt is getting more wrist time at the moment. Just something about polished centre links. Feels more ‘Rolex’ if you know what I mean.
Love the sub equally though. More understated and love the way the brushed steel changes in different lighting.
Just purchased the GMT! I am still indecisive on which I like better, but I just feel the GMT has more features then the Sub
Hi Norman, you can't make a bad decision with these two!
Bijou Diamond Jewellery I've been wearing the gmt the last 2 weeks and I love it! Glad I went with it. Thanks for the video
I’m so torn between the two, I travel a lot with work and would use the GMT’s feature, however I just prefer the look of the submariner’s bezel and even more importantly, the non polished links.
Did you mention the Sub bezel turns one way for safety purposes (no way to accidentally increase dive time). I have the 116710 (non-ceramic version), with the the 3185 movement and twinlok. Good review.
Great video Dylan. I own and love both of those watches. The GMT II is my everyday watch. Its a little lighter and the dual timezone feature keeps me on task. My Submariner has a two tone bracelet with a sapphire blue face which I feel looks classier for an evening out on the town.
Bluesy Two Tone? Is it the 4th and last generation?
The no-date, two-liner Submariner is my favourite. I could make good use of the GMT function for work but I love the clean, simple dial on my Sub. That said, the Batman GMT is quite tempting...
You speak my thoughts lol
I like the way you talk about these watches. Not "blasé" but very natural. Not like you're trying to convince people of a commercial message, but just the truth as the truth is. Fantastic!
0:50 "Let's 'dive' straight into the differences..." I see what you did there and where your biases lie. ;)
Hahaha whoops!
I love my 10 year old GMT. Daily wear. Still looks brand new.
Good day! My name is also John Hall. I bought a sub 4 months ago and is completely in love with it!
Good fair review but second hand GMTs are selling for much more. I think maybe you just had the script backward? Subs go for 6 to 10k usd. You can’t touch a gmt for less than 10.
The GMT II is a better bang for the buck in the used market. If you're not a diver and only plan to go swimming/snorkeling with the watch, the submariner is more expensive for a very little benefit. The bond aesthetic is largely achieved with either watch even though Bond wore the submariner for obvious reasons. If you're diving to a depth where you would be concerned about your watch failing, chances are you will be using a dive computer to give proper readings instead of a wristwatch. Also you can use a Seiko Turtle PADI for only $300 that is ISO certified and well respected in the diver community for many years for such activities. The primary attraction to purchasing a Rolex is for the value of owning a luxury piece that is rugged as well as beautiful and possible also to reflect wealth in the and esteem in the eyes of others.
If you're buying new and wish to retain resale value, the submariner is the better option as the speaker mentions. Another thing to note is that Rolex watches don't tend to climb back up in value until they reach maximum depreciation around ten years in age; so your submariner won't likely bring much money unless you keep for a very long time; however, should you find yourself in a position needing to sell the watch in the short term, the submariner's popularity will be a saving grace to regain most of your money provided it is in top condition and only a roughly three to four years old.
Bellerophon 911 Subs are going for $1,200-3,000 right now on the grey market. You could literally buy 2018 Sub today and sell it tomorrow for more! Look at ANY grey market site Bobs, Jonas and Chrono are good sites to attest to the Sub market. New Rolex subs have a waiting just to be able to purchase the watch from an AD! Subs are a great watch for many reasons, but waiting 10 years for it to go up in value is just wrong information to put out on a thread.
Very good and professional review. I prefer the Submariner, because I think it look's better and it is also my dream watch.
Thanks sebastian
The Submariner is just the perfect watch to me. Nice video!
Thanks Haris! We love it too
Can you buy me 1
The GMT master is thinner than the sub - case is a bit thicker but caseback is a lot thinner, which makes it sit more comfortably on the wrist =)
Crybabyteamo Thanks for putting this out there! I noticed it just after I finished the video. I can't comment on the difference in comfort as I didn't really notice it but you can see the depth difference
You're welcome. I guess on flatter/bigger wrists there isn't that much difference but I was wearing my SubC when I tried on the batman at the AD, The difference was so obvious and I just had to take it home.
Always enjoyed your video with the good balance of background and specs, and wonderful shots on the details and how the watch play under light. Please keep up the good work and keep them coming.
Thanks!!! Very kind. Really appreciate the support! I'm amazed you managed to find a Batman in an AD!
Black GMT discontinued. Bound for a price surge soon
Dragonnetx Paul $11-$15k preowned or new in 2nd market. Discontinued and impossible to find at an AD’s. GMT for me as i see Subs everywhere, i rarely see GMT’s.
Richard Sun a pre owned Batman was at the price range at around 18-18.5k before it was discontinued and taken over by the jubilee bracelet Batman. As for the black GMT I have not checked on the price lately
I had one saved on eBay. Two days after Basel World, the price went from $8,200 USD to $11,000 USD.
It is really nice to see the scratches comparison between the 2 watches. I was on the fence as to which one to get for a everyday watch. After watching your review I definitely choose the Submariner over the GMT II. Keep up the good work mate.
Thanks Sam! Glad the scratches turned into a positive
that is why i hate the bracelet on the gmt, i travel 11 months a year, but if overpay for something i would expect they would have fixed that issue :(
GMT for the 2nd time zone and the polished center links.
really nice video, i prefer the SUB, i just love that simple dial, the easy adjustment of the bracelet and i use really often the diving bezel. But for someone who travel a lot the GMT could be the perfect choice.
If the AD offers you a GMT, get the GMT. If he offers the Submariner, get the Submariner! I own a 2018 Black/Black GMT but I once owned a 1990's Submariner. Don't overlook the Submariner no-date, as it compliments other Submariners in collections, such as the Hulk, Bluesy, or Smurf.
I used to like the simplicity of the Submariner. It's still a classy looking watch that will remain timeless over the years. But i've recently grown to really like the overall look of the GMT. And the GMT is a very functional watch with the different time zones etc and you can make use of the bezel. As for the Sub or other dive watches, we don't really use the bezel during normal daily wear.
Only ever give ‘your’ opinion of the watches and never ‘we…’.
I have way more use for the hour timer on the Sub. I’m still to get the proper use out of the GMT. I use the GMT like the dive bezel when timing something but it’s def not as clear to read for this function which I’m aware it isn’t designed for.
I wish the new Sub came in a 39/40mm and not just 41. It’s a bit 41mm which is chunkier and 10 grams heavier than my speedmaster. I’m still to try the GMT on the polished oyster. So far I’ve just had the pleasure of wearing the GMT on jubilee. There are size differences that make a big difference even if it’s one mm
The question for me is "Do I travel more often than I dive? " In which case it has to be the GMT to have a practical value! After all the aesthetics are pretty much the same!
ElNeo9778 very well put, unless you’re a professional diver, you probably travel more often than you dive.
Great review. Appreciated your personal take on the weigh in. Valid assessment.
Thanks :) Appreciate the support
That looks like an older GMT. The newer ones aren’t like that. You can control just the date now. In fact, you can go back or forward on the date now, in case you cross time zones where you’re “traveling to yesterday” - which is actually an interesting feature). Good video just slightly outdated and comparing a 5 digit GMT to a 6 digit SubC. Also, now, the clasps are the same size although the GMT still doesn’t have the glidelock extension.
Thank you for a great review and comparison. You're spot on. I ended up selling my GMT and going back to the Sub. I love my sub. I really hate how the bracelet gets scratched so easily on the GMT. I also felt the GMT is dressier. Lastly, anytime there is color introduced, I felt it was overall limiting, except the red writing on my 50th anniversary Deep sea. Love your channel, keep up the great work.
how the hell does the gmt not have a quick date adjust function!!!
Killing it guys ✌ Keep up the incredible work
Thanks!! Very kind
itsKibble Talks Watches oooo
submariner looks much cleaner. also the bezel action on the sub feels much more positive, while the GMT 2 bezel feels mushy
Love them both. Have a 2016 two tone blue Sub, and a 2018 Pepsi GMT Master II, with the Jubilee bracelet. Also a beat to crap 1996 black sub no date that I dive with. I really like the GMT with the Jubilee. The polished center links just sparkle in the right light and is very comfortable on the wrist. The two tone Sub is my everyday and I never get tired of looking at it.
What do you do for work lol
someone who know what they talk about keep it coming I can tell you wont mind either one
Why choose? Just buy both. 😂 two wrists, one on each.
😂
It's good to reward ourselves sometimes . While I'm not one to spend on high-end watch (I spend too much money on travel, lol), I can appreciate your gorgeous and timeless watch. I love how it's a symbol of all your hard work.And i choose NKUWAN every time honestly
Submariner forever!!! Fun fact!!! Ian Fleming's first Bond novel 'Casino Royale' published in 1953 and guess what??? He gives the literary James Bond-007 character a Rolex Submariner. In the films though, Bond goes thru a plethora of different watches starting with 'Dr.NO'-1963 Sean Connery starts him off with guess what??? A Rolex Sub!!!
Had them both. The sub is cleaner YES, but the GMT is a little more fun. I ended up getting the Batman and think I'll stick with that since the added blue is so nice.
Nice!! Love the batman, one of our most requested watches
I bet you’re happy you did this lol
I have a Sub now, but want a GMT. Really like all models of the GMT, but prefer the Batman.
Thanks for a great review! I wish i found your website & reviews earlier, would have saved me a lot of research time. I have decided on the Sub-C even though I am an airline pilot. My iPhone wakes me and gets me down to the hotel lobby for the airport shuttle on time, wrist watch might be buried under pillow. Sub-C is so clean and original and will remain after my demise.
Denver, Colorado USA
Hi Toddao, Thanks for the support!!! Very jealous that you fly! Thats the dream job :) What do you fly if you don't mind me asking?
Dylan
Hi Dylan, I'm certified and typed in Boeing 737 series and for about the last 15 years been flying the Airbus A320 series, 319, 320 and 321's. It is a great job but like anything else can get hectic at times.
Toddao I agree with you. I am also an airline pilot and bought the SUB-C great looking watch and love the bracelet. Would be interesting to make a study on how many people actually use the functionality of the GMT after they buy it.
Wow!!! very very very cool, I fly R22s so pretty different type of flying haha. I love the 737 :)
Very cool!! Not sure how many people use the GMT function, but I think even less people use the sub's bezel!
Both are beautiful watches... anything the Rolex do is beautiful ..... and high quality ....
Great video 👍👌 the Sub is little less thick than the GMT ?
The Submariner it is then... thanks for the comparison!
Glad we could help!
Great video. This is the problem I have, I can't decide which one to save up for and ultimately purchase. I love the Sub, but there is something about the GMTII which makes me think k that if I didn't choose it over the Sub...then I would regret it. I really don't like the super shiny bracelet on the GMTII though... Ah well, do now I'll stick with my Omega Seamaster Pro.
Either one you get you will love it! But if you don't like the bracelet on the GMT then I'd go for the sub
GMT more utility a bit lighter and smaller .. I would say a better daily watch …
Love this chanel! I'm learning a lot about my favorite watches I really like it.
I had a question if you could make a review of the Rolex Sea-Dweller and campare it with a Submariner!?
The lugs on the gmt are slightly slimmer compared to the sub.
That's because they are comparing two different years.
Historically seeking, pre-maxi case GMT's always had beefier thicker crown guards and a smaller crown of either 5.3 or 6mm.
I just picked up a older model Gold and Stainless Submariner.. it needs a bracelet. I would like to know how much a standard no gold band would cost?
On the GMT, I had a Rolex Dealer tell me that you can take to a jeweler and they can Brush the Center link that is polished. Know there have been a few comments on that. Can that really be done easily , if so would it impact value of watch?
Hi Mike, yes that can be done but it isn't advisable as it will affect the value. People don't like to buy non stock Rolexes.
what is a better watch to invest in? one that holds a value and will go up in value. thanks Bijou Diamond Jewellery
Lovely please get a light box so we can see the time pieces in a more clearer way
Thanks for the review. Couldn’t decide between the two. But now I have. Cheers :)
Mark Gomes which one did you go with, I'm also undecided
Why didn't you mentioned the differents in power reserve? 48h vs 70h? or is this something Rolex just introduced a little while a go? on the upside: nice review! thanks for the extra knowledge.
I prefer the GMt hands down but the polished clasp and centre links are a deal breaker for me - ruins the whole aesthetic of the watch - goes from being tool watch to a scratch magnet.
Very true HextyVision! Every time I see a GMT it makes me love it so much, but the polished centre links really kill it for me
If I must pick one element I dislike about the GMT is that the numbers on the bezel are a little too exaggerating and looks not so seemly as the Sub.
Dunno where you live but everywhere I have seen the GMT is way better resale. The Pepsi and Batman sell for between 50-100% more than RRP
Mate, Bond never wore any Date Sub. I think Sean Connery wore a 6538, a no date sub, which still is regarded as the finer example of a sub because of it's uncluttered dial. Many horologists dislike a date dub.
It would be really nice if you bring these topics to the table, not only focus on consumer mentality. Thank you.
I see...my mistake. But no date sub has horological superiority, that's for sure.
Yeah, I like it especially with the roulette datewheel, in this GMT we don't have it. In 6542 and in some early datejust this datewheel was present, love it! But not on a sub, just think how bad a 6538 would look with a cyclops .. ugghhhh
To many people Worth, the films are more real than the books. After all the films have been around since many of us have been alive. And I'm sure there are many people who have seen multiple Bond movies who have never read a single Bond book. So to many Bond is what they saw with their own eyes, not some character from a book.
Some might say that Timothy Dalton wasn't a real James Bond, only Sean & Roger were. Just kiddin'
Sorry for being slightly off topic.
Thank you for this comparison. I currently own a submariner pre ceramic and will be upgrading to a ceramic maxi case sub rather than a gmt master ii.
I currently own a SS date sub. If I were have the money I would get that BLNR too. I love both and they both have the same weight in my heart.
I think it’s really not a big deal with the date of the gmt. I mean, how often do you really need to set it? Furthermore, I really..y thing the 100m on the gmt is underrated. It has almost the same case and the same trip-lock crown as the submariner.
Outstanding pieces. After putting several children through college, my wife and adult children surprised me with a Oyster Date-Just 10-yrs ago as I wanted a Rolex for 20-years. I'm amazed at how many people can afford dive watches at this level... I don't begrudge anyone, it's just surprising because the prices are not for the faint-hearted (smile). For now, will continue to enjoy watching these watches. I enjoy your no-frills video approach. Be well.
Very nice comparison although the cases did change when they went to the super case (wider lugs). But I have often wanted to see these watches side-by-side. I subbed you too.
Thanks Marc
I was about to buy a GMT, but I think this video sold me on Submariner.
Question: Are the numerals and dots on the black GMT Bezel white, or white gold? Are they identical in material and color of those on the Batman model, or are they different? On the Batman it seems like you get white ones, whereas on this black GMT they seem to match the color of the bracelet rather than the color of the hour dots on the dial. Comments?
Great review! Thanks for the valuable information.
I know i am late.... but what in the hell happend to the GMT Bracelet on the brushed sides???.....😮
Thank you for this video Dylan always enjoy your videos. I love the GMT it's a great watch BUT the Rolex Submariner Ceramic is THE BEST WATCH KNOWN TO MAN!!! It just covers all bases. You won't lose money on it and it will surely out last you.
Thanks for watching PrafitRealtyGroup I'm very glad I went for it as well!
PrafitRealtyGroup The Submariner is second only to the Sea-Dweller 50th Anniversary 43mm, buddy! ;)
gmt every time. sub is nice but I've loved gmt since I first saw it. on my bucket list.
Both are stunning watches, very hard decision choosing between the two #firstworldproblems
So many people keep saying rolex is perfect and there is no such thing as imperfection. Well, two of my rollie doesn't change the date at exact midnight and the logo on screw down crown doesn't align perfectly on both. Now where Breitling everything seem to spot on and align dead center. I know the date change can be fix and not sure about the crown.
God I kind of don't want to like Rolexes because I'm so poor, but they are pretty cool aren't they.
Many people don't dive at all but most of the people who can afford the Rolex do travel internationally, so...
I agree with everything you said!
Thanks!
The GMT is a more expensive watch second hand than the Sub .. I'm looking as we speak.
GMT recently discontinued, big impact for sure.
RC G What do you mean discontinued? The black bezel version, yes. But the model as a whole.
@@michaelfleming8490 don't make things complicated bruv.
@@archie9505 complicated? You mean you don't want to admit being wrong? Bruh...
@@technom3598 Ya'll Batman BLNR fanatics should know your place, the video as well as comments talk about the Black GMT Master II (and the Black Submariner for that mayter) Obviously, the Black GMT is the one being spoken of as discontinued! Bruh. People so butthurt of miscommunication/misunderstanding. 🥴
Is it able to adjust date backward by winding hour hand backward on the GMT ?
Rolex submariner black or green? Tough to pick which one to buy. Your choice?
Need to come out with a 2 tone rose gold sub!
Submariner all day long It’s the icon of Rolex
I thought this was a great review. Well done!
Thank you!! :)
why is the gmt brushed lugs look like they have been polished to shiny finish?
Daily wear and tear can smooth out the brushed surface making it appear slightly shiny rather than the factory satin brushed look
Where did you get your perlon straps, just looking for a nice black strap.
Great comparison
Damn! those babies have been worn.
I had both on my wrist and the decision was for the GMT. I pretty like the polished bracelet. It's more dressy and luxury.
But I can feel you with the tooly look auf the Sub. It's like Audi vs BMW
Have both. Nice until u put them beside the GS Diver and GMT
Sub Date or GMT II for 1st rolex? I'm an Army Officer and want to buy me a rolex. Thx and greetz from Germany
Sir, its been two years, what'd you get?!?
Batman GMT hands down....slthough I wish the center links were brushed.
I am torn between this two as my first Rolex. I like the cleaner look of the submariner but I like the function of the GMT.
I already got an Omega Seamaster (dive watch) and Panerai (diver also with GMT).
Look (Submariner) or Functionality (GMT)?
Notorious Nate submariner as first choice. You will not use the functionality of the GMT trust me.
GMT is nice when you travel to a different time zone. But you are right I only use it probably a few times a year only.
you need a chronograph then...
Got a speedmaster already too. 2 days of manual winding is not my thing though.
Always wanted a GMT. But the sub is growing on me... dilemma for another day perhaps
I love 💕 the gmt
Will you be reviewing the Sea Dweller 50th Anniversary?
What material is that black strap in 4:24? Thanks!
How big is your wrist? The new sub looks like the perfect size for you.
Hi Austin, my wrist size is approximately 16cm.
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Good vid, thanks, deciding on one of the two. Question please, would you recommend buying either watch without box and papers? From a reputable seller. thanks.
Thanks Dean. We would not recommend buying watches without box and papers, box is not a massive issue, but no papers is not the best. Better to spend a little extra for a piece with papers, you'll be grateful you made that decision if and when you come to sell. We don't sell watches without papers, its just too risky.
Hi, since last year I was thinking about getting a Sub. But, I can't make my mind up now weather to get the GMT II. Larger money investment (Sub) , or uncommon but still holds value (GMT II)?? thankyou.
Either one you go with you will love. You can't make a wrong decision between these two. Just depends what you prefer, the design differences are subtly different, the polished centre links are one of the biggest differences so see what you think of that on your wrist vs the brushed sub.
Both watches are great and couldn't go wrong with either one
No need for comparison. Just spend more effort to earn money and get them home!!!!
Thanks for the video
Great vid. Very helpful!! Earned a sub!