The Tarkov Weapon Builder You NEED To Try | Evo Ergo Tutorial
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Thank you for still doing tarkov content, I know its a rough time with the community as it is but I still love the game and im glad you do too
Of course he's still going to post tarkov content. Its his way to make money, nobody is watching giga for his presence lmao.
Lol bro it’s not that deep really, you see how many blue names there are now? Still getting full raids as well, I seriously don’t think the game has been affected that much even with the release of ABI and GZW as well
@@SotEnjoyer113 Everyone complaining doesn`t play anyway. You`ll see the main audience for ABI is people that claim they don`t have time to play Tarkov......which is actually just a coping mechanism. If you have time for any game, you have time for Tarkov. They just get trapped in this idea of ~everyone is a higher level with better gear than me~ yet I`m constantly finding level 5-15 players even now as we approach 5 months of wipe. I run into more people under level 20 than I do people over level 40.
@@xmapa4677I have plenty of time for tarkov over 8k hrs doesn’t change the fact they ripped off all the OG EOD players. Unheard went from 250$ to 50$? That doesn’t ring alarm bells as a player? Then you’re simply a shill.
I feel very sorry for people
Just getting into the game totally best game in the genre until you see the cracks in the progress of a 8 year beta.
Also feel sorry for shill content creators like my guy gigs here doing the beta bend over for daddy Nikita.
@@xmapa4677 its because people reset their accounts out of boredom of having to slog through the end game tasks which are the most boring things I've ever had to do. I've had kappa every wipe for 4 years and yes people can really not have time for tarkov, nothing is more boring to someone who works a 9-5 than going to get their pocket watch after a hard days work and see me and my no lifer friends b-hop through customs and shred him to pieces with a kit worth more than his stash worth. Tarkov isnt for casuals in the slightest, stop pretending it is.
".. so you don't need to use it anymore with the chart.." 😭😭😭 witf is this game, it's crazy when you think about it
lol I thought the same thing! 😂
Every game is an excel sheet lol
if you're a nerd, data collection and spreadsheets ain't abnormal. Now we just have technology to make it easier to use :D
games like DnD compared to Skyrim are what I'd say Tarkov is to mainstream FPS. saying "wtf is this game" is ignoring the spectrum and being too limited in perspective
@@jaylebowski9745 a LOT of data collection, graphs and spreadsheets used to make this tool haha, let me tell you :)
this is the exact kind of technical video i expect out of giggabeef. cheers sir
Thanks this will be very useful in SPTarkov 😂
have fun cya never
Aren't you edgy
Will use this in spt too
It baffels me the people who would play that garbage just out of spite and malice, the cognitive dissonance is unheard of.
@@MachinedFace88ttvit’s objectively a better game 😂 keep sucking Nikita’s cock bud
Great tool, gonna use it right away.
Thanks! I’ve been looking for something like this! I love off meta builds but they take so long to put together!
Now you can make "off meta" builds that are objectively better than "meta" weapons :)
Having no OverSwing is objectively the DMR meta if you plan to use an optic with it.
@@Stephen_Hawking and now we get to make those weapons strategically and not just messing around in the hideout until something works :)
@@spacemonkey037 Yeah, it's a huge.
great resource - thanks Beef 🙂
I use the App version and it completely changed my game! I can always get the absolute bang for my buck builds or just full our Meta. Simply incredible tool
I had the app installed on my phone, but never used it much... maybe I'll come back to it, wow the tools the community builds are next level !
I love the app mostly at start of wipe since you can see what’s cheap and what’s available by traders
This system has pretty drastically changed what I build. Ideal builds used to be totally static but this really brings out different designs.
Thank you for great video and using the web xD
Big showout to DB4 tarkov dev, iv been following the app development for a couple years and always recommend it to raid buddies, it's great, the couple of times iv found bugs iv reported them or mentioned them in his reddit post and they have gotten fixed!
Cool showcase!
I'd much prefer if overswing was a more gradual condition rather than having this sharp yes/no situation. Till then, it's good to know we've got a place that can help us determine if you're going to get overswing or not. Thanks for sharing!
What do a overswing
That would be good game design can't expect that from bsg lol
Overswing is gradual... kinda. The... total degrees outwash of the overswing will scale with EvoErgoDelta(EED). The worse EED, the further to the side the gun will move. However the duration of the overswing animation seems to be mostly fixed time. So regardless of how far the overswing will move, it will always center up at the same time.
That brings on problems of its own. The real time until aimed I consider to be the time until the reticle is on the head of the target. So it really doesn't matter if the overswing kicks you 10 degrees or 20 degrees of target, because the time until it recenteres is the same, the time until it is on the head will be mostly the same as well.
You can definetely get away with a bit of overswing. At 30 meters I think -10 EED is just about enough to not go outside of the head. -10 or 0, both will have more or less the same effective ADS speed for that reason. However when you push 100 meters etc. the reticle will go outside of the head, and so you have to wait for the animation which is always the same time, and you'll and up having a quite horrible ADS speed.
And so there's really a threshold point for true ADS time which is dependent on both your EED and the size/distance of the target you're shooting at.
Hope that clears things a bit up :)
YOU MY GOOD SIR, ARE THE MAN, WHAT A GREAT SITE!!!!
phenomenal website!!!! Btw should i look only at the best ergo value instead of evo when weapon has no overswing?
Like the thumbnail says. Ergo is DEAD. There is literally no reason to look at ergo anymore. EvoErgo is the same as Ergo, just better as we're adding in weight and scaling Ergo correctly to how it actually impacts ADS speed.
Great vid :)
Hey man great vid for tarky and I know you mention it in the video but, if possible, would you be able to put a link into the description just for ease of access?
DONE! Good suggestion
I'm always baffled how many videos people put up and don't put a link in the description. I guess it goes to show the privilege of being a creator instead of a consumer.
@@jaylebowski9745 I do try, it's just easy to forget :) You know what, I'll add it to my "check before live" list to try and catch it in future. Cheers!
This is dope
hey, a little question, the tool doesn't account for a rear sight on the M1A stock you're using
Talk about an awesome way to make builds when you're bored at work lol, nice.
Be careful! Or else you might not keep that job for long ;)
That's crazy. I have 4.6k hours and I didn't even know "OverSwing" was a thing, I thought it was something with the SVD and M1A you couldn't change...
Nice! I'll have to check it out. I'm glad to see you dropoing more Tarkov content. Not everyone is perpetually salty and obsessed with drama.
You notice! people just love to hate .. cringe
“Quit complaining and just pay the dev an extra $100 for PVE and pay to win features😡”
There’s a reason BSG have been walking back their “amazing” new changes and new $250 edition, and it’s not cuz Tarkov fans are being dramatic 😂
@anthonyapplegate That's a pretty nice strawman ya got there.
If I had to choose between BSG leaving all of the stupid Unheard crap in the game that had zero affect on my life or my product or being subjected to insufferable self righteous morons who think they're saving the world by whining on the internet about a video game... I'll be honest, it's not really even close.
Id call you an oxygen thief but clearly you've been deprived of oxygen
@@MachinedFace88ttv Im not paying another £100 to access features i was previously promised , BSG can get lost.
this website looks like an awesome resource. I wonder if we could take the data and plug it into an algorithm to produce the most unexpected meta combonations of every trader class and caliber
That's something we've considered, however it's a pain to actually pull through and the results you'd get would be quite horrible. "Meta" isn't really a thing anymore imo, as you can now make builds in relation to specific ADS speeds. Your desired ADS speed might be different to mine. I might not be able to handle a worse ADS speed for example, and so I'd have to run high EvoErgoDelta builds with high recoil.
If you press on the little information icon in the gun builder page next to the reddit logo, you can click on a Full Explanation video that goes in-depth on how to make builds with ADS speed as the main factor and then maximising recoil to keep that ADS speed.
@@spacemonkey037what if i chose the caliber of bullet, and chose if i wanted more ergo or more recoil or in the middle; and a gun pops up with the suggested combo. What if we discover an all new combo we never thought of, such as an obscure dove tail combined with no dust cover that would create an ultra light weight ergo build
But Gigabeef, how do I speedrun Factory with 0.5x A presses?
What do you think of removing Fir? Any video coming about that?😄
Can’t tell if this is satire but he literally already has one haha
Huh
Overswing... I've never even heard of that before.
Just how long has that been in the game??
Since forever afaik, at least the least couple of years. It was Giga's G28 video a long while back that originally inspired me to do the research to make the formula for overswing and now EvoErgo.
Well this is nifty.
I tried building the exact same m1a you have showcased at the ergo threshold and it sways for me still
Could be even the ammo used. Ammo weight is slightly different between bullets so with a 20 rounder you might end up with a sizable difference.
You also have to take Ergo penalties on equipment into account. The website has it integrated by pressing a button in the top right to select your total ergo penalty %. Press enter once you've put in your number :)
You also have to keep in mind that the formulas used are based on in-game testing, not code stealing. This means that there is an amount of error to be expected. It's somewhere around +-2 EvoErgoDelta.
What I'm sorry about is that there is an incredibly passionate community to the point of creating such sites. Functions that should be integrated into the game with an "advanced" card. Instead, we have users who do their utmost to create these beautiful sites, including tables and guides, when then an update of the game is enough to destroy part of the work, just because "You have to find out for yourself"
Got really lucky in the new update as it made changes to inertia which may have and affect on ADS speed. However turns out ADS speed is not a part of inertia so the formulas are still correct :) Had me worried though haha
Neat
I just put on what I like and deal with it
when you have max strength, does this still mater, as the gun weight is technically zero?
yea max strength is not helping you with that
Skills have no effect on raw ADS speed. So the weapon weight will still matter. However once your character is overweight the aiming animation is slowed down. Doesn't do anything with overswing, but everything just goes slower. So if a skill increases your carrying capacity, that could effect your ADS speed if your character would otherwise be overweight.
Giga when are you doing spt videos 😫
Website is down lol, theres so many people acessing it, I cant even load the website
Sooo what is an overswing?
It's the strange effect that happens when you go to aim and the weapon is "thrown" too far to the left, and so your PMC has to slowly drag it back to center. This is a predictable effect that happens very consistently. Make a gun with overswing using the website and you'll see what I mean haha.
Imagine improving the in-game weapon modding UI to actually show the relevant information where it should be displayed in the first place 😇 bsg would never
Even with this website, preparing a good SA-58 is difficult. If I want to use supressed, has very few ergo.
Yeah, you don't have a lot of options on the Fal. Definitely go short barrel though!
@@spacemonkey037 yes, short barrel is the best for this gun.
What have i missed. What is overswing?
2:30 - When you ADS and get your sight picture the reticle will be to the upper left of where you are actually aiming and it takes a moment for your PMC to correct/center the reticle. When you don't have overswing you aim where you want immediately. Overswing is basically on or off and is dependant on both ergo and weight of the gun. The site he talks about allows you to check if your weapon build will have overswing or not since there is nothing ingame that tells you about it, except checking trying a gun on the range.
It kinda feels like you get aimpunched whenever you ADS in a way.
@@umbrella4407Yo thanks I was looking for this I’m pretty experienced but never heard ab it either but Ik exactly what you’re talking ab, never heard it called that but thanks .;,;.
@@umbrella4407 Slight correction. It's not really an "On or off". The amount of overswing you will have scales. You can have YES overswing, but like 0.1 degrees which you will never feel. The amount of negative EvoErgoDelta you have will determine how far the gun will swing.
I've been playing Tarkov for a while, and I didn't do a Masters degree in it - so I had no idea that there was even such a thing as 'overswing'. Now I am torn between going on a dinner with my partner, or creating a Python tool to calculate the various negative overswing options per gun. She does not know.
What is "overswing"?
2:30 - When you ADS and get your sight picture the reticle will be to the upper left of where you are actually aiming and it takes a moment for your PMC to correct/center the reticle. When you don't have overswing you aim where you want immediately.
@@umbrella4407 Thank you for the explanation!
webside alrdy down ?
its back :D
Now that someone figured it out, BSG gonna hit the randomiser button again so no one understands it. not even themselves.
I think we're already at that point. For instance we've seen that the tarkov code for arm stamina has no coloration to the actual arm stamina you get in-game. You can see your arm stamina in seconds on the website Giga showcased for your specific weapon build :)
They should just rename Escape From Tarkov to "Feature Creep". Don't get me wrong, I love it, but if this isn't the definition of getting into the weeds, I don't know what is.
Haha, yeah we're really digging down to the bottom here, on multiple levels.
So far we've figured out how ADS speed works, how accuracy works in tarkov (1 MOA is not 1 MOA of accuracy, the "80% headshot chance distance" on the website uses the actual accuracy measurable in tarkov), and how arm stamina works.
It's crazy how much un discovered stuff there is in tarkov. I mean, ergo is such a central part of the game, yet nobody actually understood it to this extent.
@@spacemonkey037 I hadn't even heard of overswing until this video and while I'm not exactly a Twitch devotee or anything, I've got 3k+ hrs over ~5 years. Hard not to get my interest piqued.
I just play spt. The weapons ergo and stats aren’t as important.
If only tarkov was still a game people played
Still getting full raids daily!
Эво Эрго Туториал
Wat? This must be something about the Russian C-3PO.
@@OTOss8 эво не понимает мемы из ВК
смартфон vivo
well it was fun when it lasted seems like the site got taken down
Its alive now, sorry about that
We shouldn't have to do this just to make our guns good
Wait this isn't Arena Breakout Infinite.?
"Ergo is Dead"
Me, a person who puts Aesthetics over functionality of a gun: 😢😂😂😂
Hey first off maybe explain wth over swing even is
What if I told you there was a way to uninstall tarkov
i'm all in favour of programs that mean you don't need to log in to tarkov.
This isn’t an airport….we don’t need you to announce your departure from the community in the comments.
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Tarkov logic: Adding weight to the gun decreases ergo. This game is a joke.
The need to make a calculator to mod a weapon explains much of the problem the game has with wasting players time.
the BSG blunder has barely made an impact on the gameplay of tarkov and yet people still complain about it thinking its such a big deal who cares about the trash pve or p2w things that i havent seen used ever in a raid
People most obsessed with Tarkov that think about it all the time (watch CZcams videos on it) are the biggest complainers
I prefer not to be lied to. It doesn't really have anything to do with gameplay.
How did you get lied to?
Man this really sucks, because your video is really catching me, and engaging - like I wanna know. But also i'd rather check out arena breakout. I just don't want to sink 15 hours min into gaming each week again. Did that for a year. Just can't bring myself to do it again.
Tarkov used to be more like arena breakout… back when they had unlocked flea, now it’s just a bullshit grindfest.
Guys, BSG has rolled back a ton and made a bunch of decent changes. I ain’t playing until 1.0 but don’t kill the game to go play some cheap chinese knockoff…they can’t keep getting away with it.
we don't have the ability to kill the game - we can play or not... buy or not, but its lifetime and capabilities are outside our reasonable control. Enjoy it or don't
Never playing Tarkov again.
No one cares
who the fuck are you? Are we supposed to care? gtfo lmaooo
who even are you lmaoooo? gtfo we dont care
Good for you. You are a sheep following your sheppard.
🎉 bye 🎉
Not sure if you know but tarkov is already dead.
Don't talk out of your ass, it isn't
Whatever happened to the "play the game & learn".....
There are so many things in this game that are nowhere near obvious and will take probably hundreds of hours to really even notice if you're not looking out explicitly for something like attachment weight balance
You can't "play and learn" this type of things, especially when it has so many gun mods that are widely unbalanced when you look deep into the stats.
@@sooz6092 course you can play and learn. What have you been doing since purchase, or have you been watching every CZcams video made about the game....
@@Dutchman451 the game is simple enough. Keep your weight below 20 kilos, with all the kit you want to move about quietly. The rest of it has been designed for all the CoD players.
@@graemepennell Not for gun mods you don't, there are way too many of them and you aren't even guaranteed to find them, much less have enough money to buy them consistently and "play and learn". This is such a terrible argument for gun modding.
For everything else you'd have a point, but not gun modding.
Imagine you spend ages building this thing then BSG kills the game just as you finish
yeah, thankfully seems like things are stabilizing a bit again so all that effort wasn't quite wasted. That being said the formula I created over half year ago and this was more so a matter of integrating it into a system that was intuitive and quick to use. The idea of EvoErgo isn't "new".
Evo ergo is a terrible name
Well that was either that or "Eff. Ergo", so you be the judge :P
So sad your channel basically died in an instant after couple of GZW videos
And how exactly did you come to this fascinating conclusion?
@@umbrella4407 looked at view count. CZcams usually kills such channels
what are you talking about he is getting more views lately than he used to.
bsg must pay for their crimes
Maybe organise a protest and block the streets 😂
EOD gets PVE .. EOD'ers still complain in comments wah wah
But streamers are still telling me to be mad.
Found a “true believer”. How do daddy Nikitas toes taste bud?
BSG only made changes because the entire gaming community rose up against them 😂I’d hardly consider that a win for Tarkov players.
@@anthonyapplegate who cares, nobody likes complainers, they made the changes and yall are still crying about the same stuff. spoiled brats.
@@Montgumerz bro this exactly it. follow the leader ass gamers
No other game would of made the changes anywhere near as quickly as BSG. Do I agree with what they did fuck now, but at same time I'm 70 days n so I'm not as keen on them more so the game play. I love Tarkov and haven't found a game like it n my life of gaming.
Sorry man, I like your videos and would like to support your efforts, but I am done with Tarkov and won't be watching any more Tarkov videos on CZcams (except the ones shitting on BSG and Nikita, as those are endlessly entertaining). I'll watch anything else from you, but no more Tarkov. I'm sorry people have put so much time and effort into this game and learning all about it. But I'm out.
Yet here you are watching and commenting on Tarkov videos
@@Joe-kl4vuYea. These “protesters” seem to engage in Tarkov content way more than the average player 😂
No one cares lol
@@Joe-kl4vu and I explained why. but why let that get in the way?
Watching a Gigabeef Tarkov video does not in any way support BSG. You can't say that you want to support GB's efforts and then say you're cutting out a whole subset of his videos. Fake fan
Please do SPT content. It is far more interesting than live Tarkov. Very few people are going to be playing live Tarkov after the scandal BSG pulled
Nah bro, raids are still full from my experience. Not to mention all the people just playing PvE mode. The game will be fine, and lots of us still wanna watch Tarkov content. Not everyone is an activist weirdo who spends too much time on the internet.
hailing spt and trashing tarkov like it isn't the same game 😂
SP = pretty boring for a lot of ppl.
And as far as 'very few ppl will be playing live Tarkov'...
Don't confuse what u think (or like to think) with reality.
@@user-xn9gd5dn9s I wasnt trashing tarkov. I was trashing BSG.
@@Pun_Solo But if you want to play PvE, then SPT is still going to be 10x better because it runs locally(no desync) + has tons of mods
Im weirded out the fact you are still supporting this game by playing and posting content, I love your channel since the very beginings but as a memberof the community i feel tarkov doesnt deserve my attention anymore, for that reason I will only support those videos you upload from other type of content moving forward, thanks for all you do.
I agree
lmao
Disagree
Twitter drama doesn't change the fact that content creators have to earn a living and that Tarkov is still the most advanced and popular extraction shooter
Who gives a fuck?
NO1 CARES
Uninstall
fuck this scam game
Unsubbed. Removed from feed. No character. Still advertising for Tarkov
Get a hold of yourself, manbaby
@@gtw1200 Youve got something on your chin, simp