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Intel puts 400+ watts going into a 1 inch piece of special sand and it starts to go wonky
Intel: *shocked pikachu face*
Fun fact mobo manufactures bios dont run stock at 253w even for the 14900ks (intel recommended spec) u gotta dig in the mobo bios to enable the stock power limits
253 max for my 14700k
@@robertvansteinshwaga We're talking about i9's, not i7's.
@@ElectroBlade-jm3jl 14900ks, an all relevant processors have a limit of 253 watts under stock intel settings. A far cry from 400+ as OP suggests. I reckon the real issue here isn't Intel, but motherboard manufacturers nuking the CPUs with ludicrous settings.
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I agree that money is expensive
Its also always "out of stock" 😮💨
Money is in stock only for goverments
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My 4 year old son says don't worry dad we can go to the store and just buy more money
If the Intel chips get damaged from being pushed too hard, that's pretty damaging to Intel's reputation. Those high end chips are for enthusiasts and that's the same market AMD is competing very well in.
People will always buy Intel because they've been using Intel since forever, despite AMD being better value and just having better CPUs (for gaming at least).
Note to anyone trying to warranty a chip with Intel:
When they ask you if you overclocked the chip or enabled XMP, the answer is always "no". Even on K SKUs.
Yup, warranty doesn't cover damage from user error
@@SkateClipsAndTips Not even really about "user error" necessarily (although that is a possibility). Things like enabling XMP, even if it does not cause the processor to run out of spec, could void your warranty. I don't really advocate fraud, but I absolutely believe in holding billion-dollar corporations responsible.
I love it when features aren't covered under warranty. 😂
This is wild if it's true. They literally sell you the K models specifically to overclock them and gladly charge extra money for it
I can tell the truth. Never got around to messing with the BIOS. Default settings . Barely used the system.
Built in December, now crashing constantly.
From what I heard, the reason the Google Find My feature took so long wasnt their fault for once - it was actually Apple dragging their feet to hold up their end of the agreement. (I think I heard this on Techlinked)
apple and google worked together so that airtag can't be used to spy on android user and the same was meant to be done on iphone (so that android tag cant be used to spy on iphone user) but apple clearly took their time to implement this feature on apple product ( literally a whole 1 year 🫡)
What i fail to understand is why people opted for intel in the first place makes no sense… AMD IS CLEARLY BETTER SIMILAR SITUATION IN GPU PEOPLE DONT CONSIDER RADEON DUE TO SAME LOGIC BUT WHEN COMES TO CPU THEY OPT FOR SECOND BEST
While there are actual logical reasons to choose one over the other... It's usually not that and people are just blindly loyal to these companies
The answer: brand awareness
Because not every one buy a computer for gaming…
I9 14900KF, I'm having to underclock to x52 to have anything stable with DirectX12 games. I'm honestly pissed that i've paid this amount of good money, and the CPU runs like shit.
Why you didn't buy a 14700? If you are gaming did you expect the i9 to work better? 5% for 60% more money? Do extra E cores help gaming at all? Did you research?
@@milescarter7803 1) Content creation - Video Editing
2) Because I could!
3) I'm a child with adult money
@@milescarter7803 was it stated anywhere that the chip was mainly used for gaming? Should you care what people spend their money on or judge them because of what they bought? No No and No so maybe shut up and think before you make a fool of yourself like you just did
@@milescarter7803
1) Other than playing games such as Arma 3, I do create content and do need the additional Cores - Video Editing and I sometimes partake in playing around in blender.
2) Because I had the money, and I could!
3) I'm a child with adult money :3
1) apart from gaming on badly optimized games such as arma 3, I do create content and having a high core count cpu does help!
2) Because I wanted it, and I could afford it
3) I'm a child with adult money :3
Hey, how come the protective sticker is still on the tempered glass on the case in the background?
Thou shall not peel. For if thy peel, it is sinful.
To annoy you, haha
As a long time technician, I knew Intel was pushing voltage/power/heat too much with their i9's the last couple of generations.
If you're a new builder, here's my advice: if an air cooler can't cool it, don't buy it for a daily driver/regular gaming PC.
Anything that REQUIRES water cooling is asking for trouble, at least in the medium to long term.
Hell, even my 13700k is pushing it on air with a Noctua ND-D15 which is silly. I've always avoided water cooling like the plague because in the past it was just an unnecessary risk for a 2-5% overclock. The trend pushing things towards requiring it is ridiculous, I don't want a space heater, I want a functional computer.
@@scarx4181 Watercooling isnt that bad as u think- o and i got a 25% uplift attimes. Clearly both of you lack knowledge. LOL @ both of you. a quality 420 will do the job very well and to top it all off if ur not using the bracket support as well as pad it makes a positive differce w temps too. im on a 14900k now and its fine.
@adamtajhassam9188 they aren't saying temps will damage the chips, they are saying the voltage (or amps, I'm not 100% sure as I'm not experienced in the electrical side of things) will damage them (atleast I think)
@@adamtajhassam9188just because you buy a bigger radiator to keep the temps under control it doesn't change the fact the pc is dumping huge amount of heat into the room.
@@adamtajhassam9188 Do you understand the phrase "in the past"? I was clearly speaking in the past tense about older CPUs, I'm aware of the performance uplift watercooling brings to the table these days. I don't like that it's becoming necessary to water cool.
I'm having instability problems with my i9 14900k as well .. games crashing .. yesterday, I couldn't even run cinebench r23 benchmark without crashing .. gana make more tests today .. hopefully fix it.
My i9 runs most games well
If you still have a warranty, make sure to use it if its pretty bad.
My i7 13-620H might have certain issues. Mines crashed a few times but only in sleep mode, and Source Filmmaker always messes up and stops responding when loading it. I have to try a few times. It’s not really using the CPU much but it’s worth mentioning
I have some issues with my 13500T :S it's running all the time at 35w and temps ??? it's about 2 degree above ambient temps
Damn I was ready to buy an i9 14900k + Rtx 4080 super. I’m currentlt working on a Macbook Air M1 and wanted to build a custom pc (I’m a video editor but I still like to play with my friends before going to bed).
So do you recommand waiting for Arrow lake? Or just stick with Apple?
Consider AMD
UV in RGB? Are they trying to fight vampires?
You don't get vampires in your PC?
Nope they are trying to make your uv reactive mods glow and it's my favorite look a deep purple barely visible with uv reactive green cable sleeves and uv reactive model paint on whatever I want to glow. It looks amazing and isn't super bright so I don't have to shut off my rgb for keeping me awake at night.
I have ssd dissapearing issues with z690/z790 platform. I tried 12900k, 13900k, 14900k and 14900ks. Tried Z790 strix d4 and z790 apex. Same issue. Ssd just randomly dissapears
I have some issues with my 13600kf. Cant run CB24, and playing games like CS2. Always freezing…
upgraded my 12700kf to a 14900k and getting status access violations in chromium browsers and other stability problems even with or without contact frame, memtest86 all stable so only think i can think of is the 14900k.
Power settings are handled by the mobo manuf., not Intel or AMD.
Jay's done several videos on this, like at least one for every AMD/Intel generational release for those that want more info.
The reviewer with the 4090 and i9 14900KS that put it in a B760 board was fishing for issues. DDR4 12gen board, sure you can update the bios and drop in the 14900KS but why?
Yes power settings are handled by the mobo but intel sets the limits tho. I’d understand if someone Overclocks those 14900ks to extreme but if they are failing with intel’s own settings/OC its on intel!
@@NewishJordan You can technically run 250W through a B760 mobo but no guarantee that the VRMs are going to stay cool at that sort of constant power draw under benchmarks and stress tests. Any CPU that is rated 190W+ should be using a decent Z790 mobo with good quality VRMs and sufficient cooling for those VRMs especially if you're planning to fully utilize the CPU with heavy constant loads. Honestly not surprised their mobo started having issues after the poor VRMs in that B760 mobo got up to nuclear fusion temps under stress tests, most likely melting and shorting some nearby trace paths that routed the PCIe lanes.
@@a-alex-p7033 It's possible there's some fault on the part of Intel here. Are Intel's limits too high? Maybe. But the Intel limits are still lower than what some motherboard manufacturers are setting as their defaults. If someone doesn't know this, then they aren't running Intel's limits. It should be the other way around, which is the primary point Jay makes in his videos. Motherboard settings should be Intel limits by default and then allow the user to alter it as they see fit. For anyone who own's a 12th, 13th, or 14th Gen Intel CPU, learning to undervolt is a must.
@@jerome620 I think both parties have their faults. Mobo manufactures really should put more work into their bioses. I hate those set up wizards that let you choose if you have air cooler or AIO and then clock the cpu themselves. My last build’s 11600k crashed with the AIO setting even tho I had one. But also Those 14900ks chug lots of power and are clocked very high. Its a real possibility that intel pushed the chip too far but little unlikely because they obviously run tests. So I suppose it’s bit of both.
My i7 14700kf has been fine from day 2, day 1 was full of driver and bios trouble on a mobo that wasnt updated. Is it just i9 or wha?
some i7 are also affected but im guessing the issue is mostly on the i9s since they are being pushed the hardest in terms of clocks and voltage whereas the i7s are slightly more tame
its affecting the 13700 to
my cpu lags while loading things
All I know is both my brother and I upgraded to i9 14th gen and we both crash on games all the time now… gotta be some major stability issues with the chip
I had all kinds of issues with the 10850k with insane voltage and power being dumped to CPU, and they've only ramped it up since then.
Bought my 4090 at launch. The price later went up $200 and has never came down. Happy I purchased when I did.
Found a used 4090 liquid suprim X for $1800 😎
Where are you guys getting ripped off? Oregan Best buy has like 20 to 50 4090 for 1500$ no tax
@@everythingpony oh, I could have gotten a 4090 air cooled for that price
Mine has AIO for my ITX build
So you got your 4090 for $1,399.. Sure. 😂
@@Hamuhh who said $1300?
For Tekken 8 the instability is a mix of processor issues mixed with gou driver updates. I end up having to preload the stages in the game before I can play without crashing.
my system started crashing with my 14900ks, but I found out it was the new NVidia driver causing it. I rolled back, zero issues. It was specifically Unreal engine games that would crash the whole PC.
but nvidia fans can`t see nvidia driver issues :)
Currently in the middle of the RMA for my 13900k, installed December 2022, for this same issue. Worked great until a couple months ago when a few apps began crashing frequently. It really mimics memory issues. I suspect the memory controllers are cooking themselves to death.
I had a 14900k that worked fine for 4 months since I built my PC but one day just decided to start causing a BSOD/restart loop. RMAd with Intel after microcenter confirmed the issue was a faulty chip. temps were fine the entire time, just decided to break one day.
Uv Burning depending also on diodes itself and also brightness ofc plastic backplates are painted with different well...paint and steel & alloy backplates have different paint types so it's hard to tell which one will suffer from this
Any AMD FX-9590 CPUs still working out there? That's the closest comparison I have to the 14900K.
I have 4 of them and I generally use those systems for winter.
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Unfortunately, you need really good cooling for intel 12-14th gen i9, not sure what coolers and BIOS settings are used in South Korea. This should change with "15th gen" arrow lake, since they are effectively letting e cores replace hyperthreading.
Sadly I mostly can’t use new egg because of shipping costs £50 in the uk even though they have the best prices aside from shipping
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I bought a 13900kf day 1. Until about 4 months ago I was able to run it at unlocked Power Limits. But somewhere around christmas 2023 it started randomly crashing when compiling shaders in all sorts of Games but mostly in Fortnite and Sons of the Forest. Productivity Apps are fine. I now have to run the CPU on stock 253W Power Limits and it still crashes sometimes but way less often than on unlocked Power
Hi guys will the 5090 be worth the upgrade?
Some motherboards have been pushing too much power through 13th and 14th gen CPUs when left on Auto.
I lowered the voltage as much as I could while it still being stable so no issues on my 13900k yet
When it comes to that fast degradation of high end intel chips, the issue is also in manufacturers, giving to motherboard deafult settings, that are absolutely cooking these chips(and are also making them even more inefficent) so check your motherboard settings and adjust them, but you don't have to worry about intel i9 13900k and 14900k, because they have locked settings
Sounds like the issue AMD X3D chips were having by burning up due to certain motherboards running too much power through the memory controller (or some part of the chip like that).
How was the eclipse?
I just checked my RTX3080 for RGB burn & nothing. I've been running my Corsair Dominator in purple & green for years.
Damn, I wish EVGA would just build their own video cards. I don't know what the hell Intel is doing with Battlemage, but we need someone else making great video cards.
My alchemist card has been doing great so far, but yeah. The more competitors the better.
ARM, Imagination amd Qualcomm still actively developing their GPU IP. but they did not want to enter pc discrete gpu market because the consumer is absurd in that market haha.
finger crossed on a 14900k since it came out using a noctua NH-U12A and a Gigabyte Z690 MB, it works fine with daily flight simming for this half a year
That portable monitor price is actually a steal. What the hell? It costs 200£ minimum for the similar thing here in the UK. 1080p over 120hz cost around 100-150£
Google's find my device got my mom's stolen phone back to us years ago... We annoyed them so much with the 'play sound' option that they threw it out of the window on the interstate and we then found it using the app too... It's awsome that you don't even need that connection anymore with this new overhaul
Hmmm, that pink cables deal looks like gum...."YUMMY YUMMY DEAL MASTER!"
Was going to wait until next gen gpus but realised i won't be able to afford those either so got an rx6800 on amazon.
Wad on sale and i had £100 gift card by charging Internet provider. So got a gpu and new pc chair for the same price as just the gpu.
my 13700k system just went down this weekend. The Ethernet controller died and took out my wifi chip with it, I have no idea how. This is only my 2nd RMA process in 5 years of building crossing my fingers!
I think it might actually be the motherboard manufacturers doing a little out of the box overclocking... they've been caught doing that before. And sometimes they do this on their cheaper boards, including overclocking features the board can't actually handle.
looks like the first generation CPU might be the most stable for intel when creating a new architecture. cuz they've been cranking more watts to make it "better". Which is probably making them ware out quickly. but who knows. lets see what next gen has in store.
Undervolting/wattage limiting>overclocking now a days
The intel gaming issue isn't specific to Korea. I've had stability issues since I built my i9-14900k system back in December. It's not a degradation issue, and it's not limited to power draw. Just to even get my system to post I had to limit power on the 1 & 2 package, plus I have to severely underclock my ram. Even still I'll have 3-4 crashes a night in games, but it's stopped BSODing on me.
Seeing people still having issues, I'm really glad i didn't switch to the latest generation
I had the same on my 13900k with DDR5 6400. It would crash due to XMP, then have to boot with stock speeds. Updated the BIOS, it is now fixed. There was some issue with the RAM as stated in the BIOS update, so perhaps that is the issue you are having as well. I'd look into it, I haven't had a BSOD since.
@@Mcnooblet yeah, i have the latest bios for my MB. I’m running 7200(or 7400.. cant remember off the top of my head) ddr5 at 6800 though. Still doesn’t like running it at full speed.
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Makes me glad i went with AMD
Arnt you suppose to water cool the cpus?
I got a 13900K with an ASUS Z790-E Gaming mobo and have been having stability issues recently (random game crashes to desktop on a variety of games). Built the computer in March of 2023 and didnt have issues until recently. I went into BIOS and disabled ASUS Multi-core Enhancement to enforce all limits and have not had issues since. This mean it just could be an issue with standard power settings with mobo manufacturers and not necessarily Intel. Definitely worth investigating both Intel and mobo manufacturers.
So Ryzen 6000, 7000, 8000, and 9000 all look the same until you remove the IHS to see the chips more so if you put them under an eletron scanner
Hearing that one specific brand's lights cause this problem doesn't make sense. How many brands use the exact same lights
It makes sense if the light guide design is focusing the light directly onto the backplate. Many other RGB only goes up, or if to the side it is minimal in comparison.
Couldn't Intel push the cost off on motherboard makers since they allow the CPU to pull extra power out of the box?
Solution for the intel issue: Buy an i5 or go AMD if you need the cores. I PROMISE you it's not worth the extra 5% performance. Your eyes are not going to notice the extra 2fps, and your channel isn't going to get shutdown over an extra 20s rendering time. Seriously guys.
I'm using a 13900k and I had to force a power limit on the chip via BIOS(JayzTwoCentz has a video on this). So far no instability or crashes whatsoever and my temps don't go over 75c while gaming and are at 35c idle. However, I am using a Arctic 420mm to keep this chip cool and even that struggles at times. Meanwhile, the 9900k I got many years ago doesn't ever hit 70c with an AIR COOLER. So try watching Jay's video and see if that helps you. I am using an Asus Z790-H motherboard, if that helps.
Jesus...420mm AIO? That's nuts.
@@angleisthebestdamn, that's one power hungry PC...
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Comparing a 6 year old cpu to the latest gen cpu that runs much faster and surprised by the temps. I wonder why they’re so high? 🤯
This Intel issue seems to be happening to people with Horizon Forbidden West. I think they patched it out as I haven't had the "out of video memory" occur since, but I have 64gb DDR5 and 24gb GDDR6X, so I was surprised to see I was "running out of memory" at all. I noticed most having the issue though had either a 13900k or a 14900k, so if this is happening on the game side, they seemed to resolve it so far, on Horizon Forbidden West. Maybe Tekken should attempt to patch it out as well?
Isn’t an “out of memory” more indicative of a memory leak in the games code? This has happened with other games as well.
If i remember right Intel offers a 3 year Warranty on their cpu's.
As soon as I saw that really any rgb lights could discolor the backplate I turned off all RGB in my system. Thanks, new fear unlocked: "RGB syndrome"
No wonder that they're unstable as they're factory overclocked so damn high just to be competive.
13900ks, rapid decline on asus extreme, right at a year and now i can't even open a game without crash or my work VM. Posted on the ROG message boards and there is a few people mentioning it there.
Amateurs, back in my day we watched eclipses using floppy disks.
The intel thing is a ram issue. If they dial back even 200mz it goes away. From 7200 to 7000 for example.
As somone with a I9 13900kf , been running it almost a year i believe and its a motherboard issue aswell, ive seen others suggest it and id have to aggree the asus board i use multi core enhancement is unstable and so is Windows default balanced power settings seem to throttle excessively, on a high power mode it runs better, its all up in the air it may be a silicon issue
Z790-e , also the board alone seems to have many nuance quirks
Will the 5060 come with 16 GBs? Or they'll probably make yet in 2025 a basic 8GB version... I only need it for work, so the 60s are fine for me...
swapped from ryzen 3000 to 12th gen intel to ryzen 7000, kinda dodged all the bullets
I have an i5 13600k that Ive been testing new gen with, its a good option for a gaming system. With the issues around 13/14th gen i9 being pushed so hard Im going to get the i7 14700K which has 28 threads, close to the 32 of the i9. I should have an easier time overclocking it. Might wait til it falls to $350 or less.
To see the out of video memory error finally being talked about is nice. Didnt think it was the hardware I thought it was the software, specifically UE5 and D3D12 having errors specifically as I have found while testing games out. Clock speeds mattered and undervolting could cause the issue so it is nice to see this finally getting recognition. Sadly its tekken and not a bigger game especially all the big titles that require some good hardware so it might take a bit longer.
Intel Engineers, McDonald's has openings....
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My 14900ks crashes during some game titles and I had no idea why. I just went back to using my laptop for gaming.
The intro, was like "GPU prices go UP". And I'm like, what's new they do that every release. It's a small increase in yuan, take note taxes are % based and most places also have % based shipping fees. So even if it's a small increase GPUs not exclusive to china that get shipped out are still gonna increase their price by percentage.
Never thought I'd be happy i bought a 13600k since it's all my best buy had.
I have a 13900k on an Asus z790-E Gaming Wifi and it's been rock steady. Of note, the first thing I changed in the BIOS on first post was Asus' "TO THE MOON!" MultiCore Enhancement (MCE) setting to Disabled, which enforces Intel's default turbo settings. It hits advertised clocks, runs cool, and is stable; that's all I really need from it. Why change it? MCE has been known for several generations for more power draw, and thus more heat, with a side of instability on occasion. Not saying this is what's happening to other people's systems, but with it disabled I've had no issues.
(Yes, I know, anecdotal data point with no control, because I could have very well have been running it with MCE enabled this whole time and also had zero issues (except for it running hotter). Schrodinger's Turbo setting.)
Been using MCE for over a decade on Asus boards and not once had it ever caused an issue. It's free 24/7 performance, just don't buy a cheap motherboard. The mid range Z series TUF boards are the sweet spot.
the most general reason would be UV, since for example cocacola cans will also lose their colour when you put them in the sun for a while(like putting it in front of your window for a year(or shorter might also work))
the thing is the paints which most of industry uses these days will lose colour or disintegrate when exposed to uv light, must be the blue leds in those RGB happen to also emit uv.
Seems like a lot is going bad for INTEL right now. It's stock price has been taking a dump the last week or so. Probably a bunch of insiders selling the stock before the upcoming earnings report at the end of the month. I'll wait for the stock to drop below $28 before I begin buying some of it in the hopes their foundries when completed in a few years will bring them back to form.
I highly doubt it would be up to the GPU manufacturers to use UV resistant paint - it would be up the software devs to blacklist the color spectrums in the RGB control software that allows those frequencies of UV to be emitted out of the modules in the first place.
Recently helped a friend suffering from a 14900k instability due to high clocks, we both use our machines for compression and compile most of the time and was crashing during this type of task. Solution was to underclock the chip all the way down to 5.3ghz and set a maximum Vcore.
My friend seems very dissapointed, he doesn't talk much about the issue since it is "resolved" for the moment, but he spended way too much on the system to have that kind of issues.
Do you think that Nvidia may be waiting for AMD to release Zen 5 so that they (5090) will perform better for CPU limited games?
The 50 cards are gonna be like $5000 to $8000 due too "Demand"
I've got a 1440p monitor and I'm gaming on a gtx 970 please help 😢
I had a ups go nuts when I tried to game the first time on my 4090/ 14900k. drawing 950 watts lol. Went into bios and saw 4000 watt limits lol. MCE has been off since. Mobo manufacturers acting like were all leaderboard OC'ers who don't mind torching silicon for glory..... Now only pulls 780 watts from the wall at max gpu (oc) 50% cpu(also oc but mce off) in tough games and sits around 67c at that usage. During most less cpu intensive games 20-25% cpu usage its more like 60c. 360 aio in a 011 vision case. It will spike up to 80ish briefly during hard loads but for like a second max then back to the 60s or lower. when I say "sit" I mean the highest it bounces to, as it obv bounces around as I play. so 67 goes down into the 50s a bunch too.
I’ve had tons of system issues for awhile now. I’ve sent my gpu in (bc I have gotten the out of vram error) and they returned it with “nothing wrong”…rebuilt my entire pc…psu, mobo, ram, etc… replaced every piece of my system except cpu. About a month ago I got a 13900k warranty replacement and have had 0 issues since. There is def a problem with Intel’s cpu right now. Pray a bios update fixes everything bc I’m loving my performance now. Hope it doesn’t “go bad”
No problems so far with my 13900k. One for gaming war zone and stream. second for AI, chatbot, stable diffusion.
UFD is basically telling me to wake up at 1AM NZT and have breakfast lol
I'm pretty happy I decided on getting an i7 12700k instead of 13th or 14th gen, lol
Have been riding my 13900K since March of last year. Have not had any problems with it at any given time. Running smooth with 4 memory sticks @ 5600MT/s
Had no issues after the first big BIOS update on MB and seemed to be absolutely needed.
Problems w/13th & 14th gen i9's? All the more reason to be content w/my lowly 12900KS. Chose it over newer CPU's due to getting it at $330 and think that was the proper choice...
Was talking to a unreal developer it’s unreal engine that’s got a stability issue when run on CPUs this fast it trips up and crashes out everything their solution apparently was to call it “edge case issues” to launch the games on time and swapped out all the intel machines the developers had and gave them threadripper workstations to avoid the problem all together
I have an Intel 14900k 1.37v LLC mode 6 with pcores at 5.8ghz and ecores at 4.5ghz. No problems since getting it in November.
Neweggs return policy is trash compared to Amazon though...
OMG I can’t even start Cyberpunk anymore on my RTX4090 after getting i9 14900KF. I kept on thinking it’s my ram issue. Holy $hit.
It could be a driver issue. Certain motherboards could be pushing these high-end Intel chips too much with loose voltage regulation out of the box. It could be an Intel design flaw. That has happened before (an FPU design flaw in the early Pentium processors is one example). Other Unreal Engine games seem to be affected as well. It could still be a software problem, but these latest high-end Intel chips use a lot of power to get to 6+ GHZ. They run very hot and that is not good for silicon. They are pushed to limits right out of the box and require substantial cooling. It seems like overclocking headroom is practically nonexistent with new CPUs in general. Maybe Intel did push the envelope too far...
I have an i9-14900k and almost EVERYTHING is unplayable.Especially the unreal engine games(that means most of the games) are crashing before main menu .PLEASE HELP me guys anyone
I didn’t bought a 12th gen (Alder lake) intel core i7 laptop because of this and I wasn’t aware of it back then. But now that I see this I am actually happy I went for an Alder lake CPU Laptop. Especially for someone that doesn’t care about AI features and capabilities of future hardware.
I recently built a new PC, I went Intel Core i7-14700K with 64GB DDR5. I have to be honest... If the experience I had is the norm, I fully expect AMD to absolutely DOMINATE.
Constant crashing, memory errors, crashing 100% of the time I reboot or shut down, random freezing doing thing my old AMD FX 8370 (STOCK EVERYTHING) does without issues, strange error messages, random reboots, invasively present software I specifically DID NOT install... It was an absolute disaster! When it functioned, it was decent. But the times it failed to function properly FAR FAR FAR outweighed it's positives.
What is your motherboard model?
this has nothing to do with the cpu and everything to do with user error lmao.
Bro I got the issue. Had to lower the power to 220W and P cores to 54x to finally have a stable computer on an AIO. Got the 14900kf, 64 GB DDR5.
@@user-pn3th2iv9q it was ASUS Z790-E ATX.
I just switched to a 13700k from am4. Was a pretty easy experience. The only thing I did was lower power limit to 150 and - offset 0.100 Have had none of those issues. Need to see how Intel handles usb hubs because amd always had issues with them.
This intel cpus dying reminds me of my i9 10850k just dying all of a sudden one day