Why Millions Of Gamers Are Boycotting Asus
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
- Did you know that much of the gaming community is boycotting Asus? In fact, even many large CZcamsrs who have an extensive history with Asus have turned on the company. Why, you ask? Well, one of the main reasons that Asus rose to fame was because of their high-quality hardware. This is what led to their famous sub-brand ROG or Republic Of Gamers which many enthusiasts swear by. But, more recently, it seems that Asus is falling short on the quality aspect and just using ROG as a marketing play. This was first noticed in their budget hardware which was noticeably less reliable than what Asus was known for. The nail in the coffin though was when Asus’ negligence started rubbing onto their enthusiast hardware as well. They pushed out a bios update that fried people’s computers and they refused to take responsibility. This video explains why consumers are boycotting Asus and the future of the once-beloved brand.
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It takes a lifetime to build trust and a few seconds to destroy it... No matter how big the company is.
Worked for Israel.
Unity having Vietnam flashbacks.
unless you are apple cause your customers are mindless sheep
except for apple because apple fanboys never leave apple unsucked, find a spouse like apple fanboys yall
@@Yoru05The thing is - most Apple fanboys aren't really fanboys at all. Fans typically obsess over the object of their fandom. Apple doesn't succeed cos of those people, it succeeds cos of all the people who just know them as a high end tech company and hence buy their products WITHOUT putting much thought into it. Most of them probably wouldn't even be able to tell you the specs the device they bought, cos they never researched it. They just associate Apple with quality and so default to buying from them. Apple gives them a generically good system that they didn't have to research to find - even though better options exist, it would require more effort from them to find them.
ASUS for me had the worst customer service when something went bad and was still under warranty. The place you buy it would not honor a refund and your only option is manufacturer.
Oof
HP is by far the worst customer service. I work for a partner and I still get horrible service!
@@DNeed77They are and so are Samsung and Steam and many other companies.
I've learned to wait 6 months before buying anything tech related and since then I've been able to avoid every major issue.
Same here, I once tried Zenfone 2 and had to send back 4 different replacement units and in the end I gave up and bought a Galaxy S7 and never looked back since
Asus still is unwilling to rma my z690 rog strix because this POS takes 4 minutes to boot. Their support is trash tier, they do NOT deserve to have the brand clout they have! I hate asus now!
Who are these "millions" of gamers again? Just because Nexus and Jay's videos have millions of views, it doesn't mean anything. No one's boycotting ASUS, their sales doesn't show it, their stock price is not showing it, infact, 99% of gamers either don't care or don't even know that these issues exist. No one even buys ROG products to overclock them, the majority of gamers just bought into the brand. Less than 2% of PC users overclock their systems. I know you need views, but this video is too long of a stretch.
It is clickbait, CZcamsrs are more like crappy tabloids nowadays
I bought a new computer recently. Was going to go for an ASUS motherboard, saw CZcamsrs talking about how terrible ASUS was, then went with MSI instead. Anecdotally I at least avoided buying ASUS.
yeah Asus and Apple fans are all sheep so their downsides never mattered in the slightest
@@OryAlle Wouldnt say msi is any better
@@NamTran-xc2ip MSI's motherboard in this particular case had the best VRM for its local price class. Gigabyte had also apparently faceplanted, so it was MSI or bust.
Nah. I stopped overclocking many many years ago when I decided my time and reliability of my PC was more important than a benchmark or even the greatest slaving game…
Fair enough
I overclocked every cpu I had, including ones with stock coolers running kinda high temps and never had a problem, overclocking is such a low risk it's insane people think otherwise. There are too many protections even if you don't know what you're doing and intentionally wanted to fry one, iwo
so you might understand how mad people are when their stock clocked cpus starts dying due to auto oc by asus mobo
Exactly! I got tired of the amount of time spent on tuning to get that extra, unnoticeable 2-3 fps. I now enjoy spending more of my time gaming without crashing than tuning.
Either way, all the major MB manufacturers are all scummy in their own ways.
overclocking is bairly worth it when the stuff is basically overclocked to the max from factory today
The video is good, but the thumbnail feels misleading because it implies that Asus has dropped by over 50%, but as far as I can tell (maybe I’m wrong?), there isn’t a metric cited that aligns with what the thumbnail is implying.
typical clickbait BS from this dude
Clickbait trash
@@artarealmblazer8452try focusing on other youtubers that clickbait worse. This guy actually has quality videos unlike clickbaiters.
Yea I was mislead too... normally i hit the report button on videos like that but only when its a repeat offender.
the report button doesn't do much but when enough people do the same it sometimes actually does work
@@Stratxgy.True. The title and video content match.
i had a ASUS tuf laptop , the motherboard died just one month after the expiry of the warranty. so it lasted 1 year and 1 month. the ASUS customer service quoted me a price that was 65% of the original price. Never buying ASUS gaming laptop again.
Which model? Any symptoms before dying? My Tuf laptop starts a crackling sound when playing Heavy games
the asus tuf laptops are just poorly engineered pieces of crap... i had a part of the motherboard fry on me as well, and now the laptop is unusable for gaming, as the GPU always thermal throttles after a few minutes of use. i can only use my asus tuf gaming laptop for basic tasks like browsing, office work and coding.
I had TUF mobo and monitor, monitor picture quality is just shocking, tons of backlight bleed. Mobo died after few months killing cpu in the process. Would not recommend anything with TUF logo on it. Shame asus
My friend bought a Tuf a couple of months back, since I have an excellent Asus Vivobook. His laptop freezes completely when using browser while being plugged in. The Asus service centre simply update the Bios and gave it back, which started freezing again. Can you recommend a course of action?
I have just purchased Asus Vivobook 16X Creator Series 😢
Gamer's Nexus have rightfully earned A LOT of respect from the gaming/PC-hardware communities over the years. If they tell me not to buy from a specific company, I have no problem complying first and asking questions later.
Gamer's Nexus is the GOAT in documentation of incidents within the PC space. Although I feel they should've been more critical of the 12VHPWR.
@@filip9587 they tried and even found the core issue with the connector.
But this connector by itself is a JOKE, has absolutely no reason to exist and it's BADLY conceptualized and engineered.
@@JohnWiku Agreed. Thinking about it, it might also lower the price of 40 Series cards on the used market (or at least here's hoping) given how bad the longevity of this connector is.
Gamer nexus also does blind product reviews. Personally hit by their Enermax AIO recommendation which you can google
Tech Jesus is not to be trifled with.
Blessed be his Binary Word.
Asuspected something was off with this brand.
A gut feeling
A sus feeling
MSI, Gigabyte, Asrock, Corsair and many other pc hw companies have pretty much the same crooked reputation... One of the few brands I could somewhat trust that will not treat their customers like a garbage is Noctua.
@@veduci22 The problem is they've all learned that if they all treat their customers like crap and cut costs by cutting corners and giving people sub par products they know there's nothing anyone can do. What I mean is if person 1 buys brand A and person 2 buys brand B and they both have a shitty product and experience. But there are only brand A and brand B products. What happens next? Person 1 buys brand B and person 2 buys brand A. They both get screwed again and the company's make the same.....No they make more money because they've made both consumers buy something twice "so far" that should have lasted much longer the first time and they've also spent less on their sub par manufacturing costs. Sure there's usually more than Brand A and B. But there's also a lot more than Person 1 and Person 2 and the only long term difference is we all bounce around more brands as we get screwed by each one.
@@octaviondeminicolas1941 Sus? AMOGUS?.
This is honestly the first time I heard "gamers" boycotting ASUS. Is there even a forum calling for the boycott?
Nah, this guy pulling the info from his ass and without source
Putting the "SUS" in ASUS.
😂
CLEVER!
Asustor
Putting the clickbait in youtube
10:53 speaking of anti consumer practices with their phones Asus pulled the ability to unlock the bootloader of their phones last year. This wouldn't be horrible if they gave 7 years of updates like Samsung or Google but they only give you 2 years of updates which effectively makes your phone useless after 2 years
Everyone buys new phones in under two years. So what's your point?
@@capnobvious2718 If it ain't broke...
Well that sucks, I got an Asus Zenfone 9 late last year because it's the only small(ish) phone series with a 3.5mm jack and modern hardware. I'm not a power user though, so I expect to still be using it in the early 2030's the way I got 10 years out of the Galaxy Note 3 before it.
@@capnobvious2718 Everyone buys a new phone in under two years? Lol. People are holding onto their phones for longer these days. The average phone replacement cycle is three years, and it has been going up.
@@capnobvious2718 Stop projecting yourself onto everyone
Quite the timing, I bought an Asus gaming laptop yesterday 😆
Don't worry, they are most likely still the top. Not because they are a beacon of quality, but because the rest are even worse.
i had ASUS TUF laptop for.....2 and a half years now, i think....
sure, it' can't ....let's say, run metro exodus at full Ultra 4K, but, it can at 1080p at medium, and extremelly satisfied.
casual gaming = asus is good enough :D
@@ionut-cristianratoi7692 simp
Congrats! Enjoy it and forget about this 😀👍
Don't worry that was a drama that happened a few months ago, the OP probably got their MOBO fried, and it's furious with the RMA process, because asus is one of the worst when comes to customer services, but quality, still pretty much on the top.
I think ASUS really let their reputation get over their heads. It used to be that people, including myself, bought ASUS because of their reputation be being built much better, and more importantly, had a BIOS that wasn't absolutely infuriating to use. Throughout the 2000s and 2010s, every time I was asked by family to build a computer, it would be the similar combination of Intel/ASUS/Nvidia simply because I could trust that the computer wouldn't end up having any teething issues the moment I handed it off.
It took all the other vendors years before they caught up on their BIOS UI, but they eventually did and that meant that ASUS could only compete on the quality of their engineering if they wanted to command the same premium price.
At this point however, even if they aren't willing to stand behind their products, even the quality of their products is garbage, the reality is that the products they produce are not unique; I can very easily move to another vendor. ASUS has no 'moats' around their products, they have no ecosystem that anybody is locked into, they have literally nothing that stops any consumer from jumping to another vendor. So that's exactly what I have done for the last few years, and will continue doing so into the future until further notice: this isn't me boycotting them, if ASUS is going to produce an inferior product for a higher price point than their competitors, why would any sane person even take their products into consideration?
Nailed it
My ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Wifi II has some of the dumbest fucking errors I've ever seen, all of which are resolvable with just adjusting a few settings in BIOS. But after on-the-spectrum levels of fine-tooth combing over every single BIOS setting, I have discovered that the out of box settings are just mind-bogglingly stupid, either hindering performance or leaving performance on the table, all while introducing the most asinine error codes. Have it up and running now, but oh boy, it gets better.
Coil whine. ASUS have more products with coil whine than I've ever fucking seen. My ASUS TUF 4080 sounds like Leatherface grinding down a bunch of robot orphans when I play at 240fps (my monitor is 240hz.) I have to lower down to 120 fps to virtually eradicate the majority of it. Undervolting and even power limiting GPU only changed it from the robot orphan pedicide to the sound of a bunch of rabid electric bees foaming at the mouth and swarming my side panel.
During my research I found INSANE amounts of people with similar experiences with ASUS motherboards and GPUs. That includes Intel and AMD on the Mobo side of things, btw.
ASUS told me my 4080 was operating within tolerable frequency and since it was not mechanically defective they would not replace it with another and sent me back the same one. Pretty sure whoever handles coil whine complaints in their testing service is deaf. I'd bet my life savings on it.
Then there's the 7800X3D debacle...
Then there's the BIOS settings destroying Intel 13th/14th gen CPUs...
Like it's just baffling to me how they let this happen to their brand. What a bunch of incompetent rats.
people are loyal to quality and trust & competition, if they are not anymore, it's time to move on to other competitors.
some of the worst motherboards Asus sold were made in 2000-2005. Pure rubbish. Frankly most products from that time period suffer from issues, mostly due to capacitor plague, but asus boards, especially mid and mid-high end ones were some of the worst offenders. At one point we had a shelf packed full exclusively with dead Asus P4P800 and A7V880 motherboards. MSI was a close second. We stopped putting their boards in our prebuilt PCs after 2005, opting to go with Biostar for budget PCs and Asrock for high end offerings. Their boards slowly started getting better from 2006 onwards, but they started dropping the ball with video cards in about 2008 or so. 8800GTs with dingy coolers that cocked themselves, 7970's and 280x with no cooling for the bottom ram chip, Vega64 with under specced VRMs, GTX 780's with paper thin PCBs and so on. I'm pretty happy with their laptops tough.
they are a publicly traded company and they have investors and stockholders they are required to service. Their stock is also up 50% over the last year. they dont give a s about any of that stuff. they ship products, they make money. typically when companies run out of growth opportunities their excising products start to suck, this is not typical. This is like nvida raising prices to the stratosphere. I bet asus can get way worse before they care at all about it.
Asus also had a huge security flaw they knew about on their routers that put the people that owned that routers network under threat.
That was done by design. Anything coming out of a Taiwanese company is hackable by government sponsored hackers. That's why the United States loves Taiwan, they love to have backdoors into everything but don't want Russia or China to. Hypocrites, yes.
Yeah and I was one of them. Thats why I replaced them with OpenWRT routers. Dont want to mercifully beg big corporations to do something. Looking at you too, Microsoft and Apple...
As did every other brand.
@@tomasbarek2852 Merlin firmware on mine.
I just recently purchased the rog phone 8. And I have a Pro Art motherboard in my desktop. I was unaware of their anti consumer practices. But I was also unaware that they were considered premium products.
Basicly you are pritty unaware ...
So you buy high priced products and don’t expect them to be „premium“?
Your proart mobo is more expensive than other motherboards that may have better features. Looks good tho. I personally was looking at the ProArt Z790 just because it had 10G + 8 Sata Ports, and then I realized I could buy a different Z790 for half the price, and get a 10G PCIE card if I want that.
I have a ROG monitor, top of the line, and came with blocked pixel and very very small piece of dust behind the panel. Luckily I fixed the blocked pixel myself, oldschool, by putting pressure with my fingers on the panel and magically solved the issue. Obviously their Quality Control is bad lately. I owned asus products for almost 20 years, mainly motherboards and never had an issue.
No other manufacturer ever sold dead pixel lcds. It's disgusting that asus sold you one. /sarcasm
@@capnobvious2718 Dell has pretty nice warranty on dead pixels.
I bought s $550 mobile monitor that started flickering. I RMA'd it and they sent it back to me with the same problem, only worse AND they added some pixel smear for free. Thanks ASUS
LG has better monitors than ASUS... ASUS is best in manufacturing mainboards. Almost everything else has comparable or better alternative, but for mainboards ASUS is the best.
to be fair Asus doesn't really have control of the manufacturing of the panel that's usually Samsung or LG or AO
15 years ago and earlier I used to swear by Asus for motherboards and other components.
Nowadays I avoid them like the plague.
They went downhill in record time.
Their professional line-up is still pretty solid. I use such a board in my workstation and a monitor.
I used Asus mainboards during the Athlon64 and Core2 era. But later switched to MSI, but they are lacking nowadays too. The Z390 MSI board in my gaming system has issues that it shouldn't have, but at least nothing that breaks the entire system. Only USB ports glitching out. My sister in law had an awful experience with a Gigabyte graphics card.
Funny enough, ASRock ("cheap Asus") has solid middle class consumer components.
But when it comes to graphics cards, EVGA were the only ones which had good ones in my opinion. A shame they don't make them anymore.
I wouldn't trust them if they can't even get their latest high end product right (Rog Ally and the SD card of death).
I exclusively bought Intel CPUs and Asus motherboards between '01 and '21, even before GamersNexus and Jays videos there was something stinky with Asus QA that I really wasn't interested in and I didn't really want an intel CPU that boosted into corium either. I think intel made their later cpu's more reasonable but I'm never touching Asus again.
Which one is better for mainboards?! Gigabyte ???
I now parise Asrock Now
I never heard of millions of gamers boycotting ASUS
Same here. Typical youtuber clickbait bullshit. While I feel for people who have had issues with the brand, I myself have had no real issues with my Asus X99 motherboard to speak of.
@@iAmCodeMonkey x99 is OLD
I’m not boycotting them, but I did cancel my PG32UCDM order in favor of the AW3225Qf, my motherboard and GPU are both ROG.
Fair enough
My dad works on a big graphics design company and he needs a beefy pc to work. I remember him during the pandemic screaming because the connectors on his Asus gpu caught on fire (no kidding) and he lost the thing he was working on. We never got refunded, but he was able to work on an older graphics card until he bought a new one a month later
tbf that could be due to nvidia's infamous new psu connector issue
@@wasw Sounds like RTX4090
@@sergiofonseca2285 I think it was a 3090
@@wasw so NVIDIA was to blame? That’s messed up
@@Papasot Yep sounds like that issue with the Nvidia connectors for sure. On a side note, I feel for your pops, that's rough. I hope his boss or client at least cut him some slack and let him redo it. I work in the architecture, BIM industry, think model buildings in 3D and make construction documents (blueprints) to be followed in the field. This type of thing is the exact reason I am obsessive about backing up my work on external hard drives. It's not as much of an issue now on larger projects because of the way the industry has moved to work sharing through cloud sharing. But say 5-10 years ago you could imagine if you were the sole person for a small scale architecture firm working on a Revit model for 3-4 months and then poof it's gone. Meanwhile you had GC's with permits in hand and everyone ready to go. It'd be a bad day.
Having built computers for 20 years I don't think I've seen a fiasco as big as the AM5 motherboard barbecue BIOS. With that being said, keeping any manufacturer accountable in this industry is a constant battle. Computers are mindblowingly complex devices and things go wrong all the time on the manufacturer side, but if companies like Asus and MSI don't take immediate responsibility and implement measures in a timely manner there will be trust lost with the consumer.
It isn't limited to pc hardware space either, which is the sad part. Holding mid to large sized companies of any kind or genre accountable for anything short of genocide is next to impossible in the US. Corporations have more rights than people. And it sucks.
@@azmalguthek4502 It's not? Oh crap here I was thinking we live in a perfect world of the almighty invisible hand of the market, thanks for setting me straight though.
@@Dystopikachu Think you misinterpreted my intent, homie. I wasn't implying you were daft enough to not understand the premise, I merely stated it and elaborated on it to outline my discontent with the state of affairs of everything, as someone who builds PCs and games a lot. I in no way intended to insult your intelligence or imply that you did not understand this, and I probably should have worded that a little more appropriately to better convey that. That's my bad.
Edited original comment for better clarity. My apologies for the mixup.
@@azmalguthek4502 No worries, and thanks for clarifying. Snark is the bread and butter of youtube comments, so my interpretation perhaps tends to lean in that direction.
For the warranty voiding beta BIOS Asus said that the warning was present for all Beta BIOS and they forgot to remove it because it was chaos in the company
"Forgot", until they were called out on it.
Even if that's actually the case, "we're a mess, cut us some slack" is hardly a reassuring response.
Unless you're getting something for a special use case like like a dual cpu socket, with support for something like 1TB of ram and 8-10 pcie gen5 slots, there's absolutely no reason a motherboard should cost anywhere close to $1,000.
My latest ASUS experience, is their notebook battery connector, designed to tear from motherboard if you failed to notice an uneven sliding lock on it.
Very important. Now ASUS apparently refuses to sell product. Many people have had problems purchasing ASUS products over the last 2 years. ASUS just repeatedly cancels orders without explanation. Some people even go as far as calling the CEO office to clear their purchase. I tried this myself and had ASUS cancel 4 orders, using 4 credit cards from both Amazon AND their own website. Something is very wrong at ASUS.
Asus also didn't recall their Rog Ally for burning SD cards. And they did 24 Days of Rog giveaway and only gave away the first few days. Then they deleted the giveaway page and didn't respond to everyone commenting on their Instagram. They got free advertisement from creators and tons of social media growth and then flaked. Looks like this has happened before too.
I recently re built a desktop in late 2022 and had so much trouble with 2 ASus boards
I had the right CPU and kept getting an orange light and ordered like 3 replacements & returned them all back to Amazon. F Finally just got an MSI and it worked on first try. What a terrible expereince
I build my new rig after 10 years of slaving my old trusty piece of garbage, considered buying an ASUS board at first but after watching a couple of Jays videos and Steve's I decided against it and went with a 300€ expensive MSI Tomahawk board. Absolutely satisfied with it so far.
Were the cpu and motherboard compatible? as in bios update?
@@TwiztedHarlequin As long as it isn't the z790 tomahawk. That one has been recalled partially due to cracking pch's
@@apotato5563 Yep I checked before buying it to make sure. Ironically the MSI that worked right away has a feature where you can flash the BIOs via USB in case.
I want nothing to do w/ Asus
@@luckychukiye8743 that sucks. What boards where they?
The overvoltage issue was about a year ago. Is this still not resolved?
It has been resolved for a long time
Well my 7800x3d cpu isn't fried yet, so far so good. Just have to make sure the BIOS for your ASUS motherboard is somewhat new and the SOC voltage isn't too high.
Millions of gamers? Where's the data to support that clickbait claim?
This makes my laptop look great by comparison.
Only issue my laptop had was the battery died quite fast after a while of owning it. I asked my Dad to buy a replacement battery, but Dell didn't sell any (I checked Dell's website just to make sure), so Dad bought a replacement battery from a third-party. That battery was fake and held no charge at all, so I asked Dad to put the old battery back in, but he'd already sold it for recycling. And now I have to have my laptop plugged in whenever I want to use it. Which is a little annoying.
Much better than fires, though.
But my next laptop will definitely be a Framework (if I ever get another laptop).
Same here, the Dell was my backup until 3 days ago, when my ASUS crapped its pants, now I am even more grateful that my Dell is still cooking, even if it has to be plugged in all the time.
What?? I never heard any community is boycotting Asus before. Until this video...
It's sad. We used exclusively ASUS and Kingston products back in 1997 to build custom business machines where I worked (main board and memory). Nearly zero failures, and on the RARE occasion there was, either company would overnight exchange anything for the business, and within 4 business days for the average consumer. Diamond was just about as good as well. However, ASUS started going downhill around 2012. Their return policies became longer (granted, they were getting bigger), their rejections for replacements became a little ridiculous. They started hard-lining warranty dates - they originally didn't bat an eye if something died within a couple weeks of expiration. As of 2018 they just went to crap entirely. No customer service to speak of. Returns were almost impossible, even inside of warranty they would argue. New models seemed to have BIOS issues with some edge case, and it would always be a delay in getting an update. Kingston has never changed. Ask and it's resolved. I never have and never will own another ASUS product since 2012. It used to be my go to. It just sucks.
My months old asus phone suddenly died while charging at the start of the pandemic, i wasnt able to get it fixed. So when places opened up, i tried to get it fixed and learned that the original motherboard will be about 95% of the original price of the phone, and no available OEM parts since it is not a popular device. So tough luck, whatever pictures/files i have on that phone was gone.
RIP Belle Daphne 🌶 pics
Same, my Zenfone was a few months old and it just died in my hand one day. I went out of office and made my way to an Apple store that same hour, and... I'm not exactly happy with iOS, but then I also was never exactly happy with Android either, and at least it works.
@@caffeinecreature Not trying to be rude but you just bought 2 of the most evil phone companies in the world, they're not even necessary evil, they're just straight up. Anything but those two.
As someone said: Don't make decisions when you're mad.
Overclocking is not nearly as common in recent times, as you make it out to be. 5years ago yes it was just the way you describe it, but now it can be said that overclocking is pretty much dead. Apart from subzero cooling, if your CPU sees thermal headroom it will boost itself to the max except in situations where it is undervolted for power bill reasons.
I guess it would be only fair to say that GPU overclocking is still a thing. What I was talking about was CPU
With overclocking he is talking about Multi-core-enhancement.
Intel set's the powerlimit to 253 watts on 125w sku's
ASUS ai overclocking sets the maximum op to 4095watt And pushes extra voltage to make the cpu always turbo up to it's maximum speed. That is also technically overclocking because you go out of powerlimit speck but you don't go out of clockspeed spec
I recently sold all my Asus components. My last 3 boards and 4 GPUs were all Asus. However, their current prices are ridiculous, and other brands have stepped their game up and offer more or the same for less money. Thr Asus Tax IS REAL!
I'm lucky to be running an ASUS X99 motherboard that's still working fine, but even back when it came out there were a lot of people online saying theirs were suddenly dying. This was about 8 years ago, so even for their premium products their QC has been slipping for a good while
The same reviewer applauded their recent gear such as their latest laptops. This just lives in your head
Overclocking has always been asking for trouble. The reality is, if you're spending extra for a more overclockable motherboard, perhaps you should consider simply putting that extra money towards more powerful hardware.
That was always my mentality. People who overclock their PCs don't seem to do anything important on those machines. Having an unstable system for bragging rights and FPS seems silly given the potential downsides. Might as well buy better hardware if you want better performance.
The only reason to buy a high-end motherboard is because you want to overclock! There is literally no other feature that matters which justifies spending 250% price premium on a high-end motherboard!
I got my 16 core 5950x to run 6% faster. Literally I now have a 17 core CPU..
What if they already have the fastest CPU and GPU available? You don't really need to spend extra for a fancy motherboard, my CPU has been overclocked by 600Mhz (15%) for about the last decade and it's never caused any issues. I'm not trying to break any records, it's just nice to have 15% extra performance for no extra cost....well besides higher electricity use.
@@GigaChad_169 I agree on overclocking your PC to the point it's unstable just for bragging rights, but that's a fairly niche level of overclocking. I'd imagine most people who overclock just want a bit of extra performance from the hardware they already own. My CPU has been overclocked by 600Mhz for about 10 years, 15% extra performance for no extra hardware cost is pretty nice.
i tried to get a refund for my zenfone 10 after they refused to deliver a promised feature which i specifically bought the phone for, and i was met with radio silence. someone else in my country took them to court over it, won, and asus paid the legal fees and issued a full refund
As someone from where ASUS is based, they are not just shit to consumers, they are shit to their employees as well, which costs them the most skilled engineers (who got plenty of choices in our booming hardware industry).
About 6 years ago I bought an Asus ROG Strix Geforce 1080 card. Has worked flawlessly over the past 6 years. With all the drama going on and how they dealt with it, I'll be replacing it with a competitor's when the time comes.
Why would you, this video is just a clickbite. The other manufacturers are not better, probably Gigabyte is closest to ASUS in quality, despite some people saying MSI is better... it's not. ASUS has the most robust testing and QA checks.
At least don't get a new gpu from: MSI/Gigabyte/Zotac. Those all cheap out on components. Unless you are getting the MSI Suprim X. That is a solid card
We are? That's news to me.
We were. Quite a while ago. For a short time. This video came much too late :p
I had an Asus TUF F15 gaming laptop, with Asus' Premium Care with Accident Protection warranty. One day I had a liquid spill on the laptop, so I sent it in for service.
They quoted me for an entire replacement of the motherboard, back plate, chassis, and battery. When I asked about my warranty, they made up some reason about why it couldn't be used. I ended up just asking for my laptop back, and when I received it, there were scratches and a massive dent in the metal chassis exposing the inside, and one of the screws was torn completely free from it's screw hole and would no longer stay in.
I'm never buying Asus again.
Yeah, Sorry about that. Yeah I’ve had a better experience with Dell warranty service
Where do I find the 690 recall board list?
So a-sus or a-zeus ? I swear no one ever agrees on the pronunciation 😂
Who knows man
It comes from pegasus, so a-sus sounds more right. It used to be one company but was split into Unihan, Pegatron(peg-) and Asus(-asus).
sus a
SuS
It's a-Zeus. It's pretty common knowledge
I have been using Asus motherboards since the mid 1990's. I stopped in 2019 as they demand a price premium over Asrock, Gigabyte and MSI but are no better in featureset or quality.
I brought an Asus X670E board earlier this year due to Asrock shortages but ended up returning it unopened due to the scorched CPU fiasco.
NVIDIA has also joined Asus on my very short "sh1tlist" due to their shady pricing practices during the pandemic and their general lack of carung about their loyal customers that got them to where they are today.
True Nvidia is also gluity like Asus and with time they will both fall
@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns Asus might, Nvidia is far too big to fall at this point.
True
I own a Asus ROG laptop and made my friend buy one, we both had issues with fan and screen, but they were well sorted out by the customer service, but the irony was that the issues just arised after the warranty expired. After the resolution there has been no such problems further
Yeah I no longer recommend ASUS anymore.
I now recommend MSI or Asrock
I recently purchased an ASUS Prime B650 motherboard for my new setup (primarily due to budget considerations). While it initially handled everything well, including VR, I've encountered persistent errors regarding the USB controller being overloaded within the past month. This occurs when launching VR and has now extended to my headphones.
I've confirmed that all drivers are correctly installed and even performed a fresh Windows installation, but still getting the same error. I messed around in the BIOS, disabled, enabled certain settings; to no avail. I did a bit of research, and as it turns out, seems to be a common issue.
Ironically, I upgraded because my previous ASUS ROG STRIX X570 motherboard damaged one of my RAM modules. Given these consecutive hardware issues, I would likely have considered a different brand. Kind of crap luck, isn't it?
Interesting yeah go for MSI or Asrock Next time
@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns I used to have everything MSI back then, but ASUS was regarded as *the* brand. Suppose that's a far distant past now
Interesting same here. I used value ASUS as well. But after the recent events, quality control, and their handling. I decided that ASUS is no longer a good brand.
MSI on the other hand feels premium and there products seem to be better quality. In addition their RMA service is decent.
For me MSI form now on.
@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns Personalyl I have had a pretty bad experience with MSI and their gpu's where absolute garbage form plastic backplates to only covering half of the vram chip with a thermal pad. Or that they are the only 4090 aib that doesn't use a vapor chaimber on their cards (except suprim x) But on the otherhand their motherboards do seem solid.
I think that you should buy an MSI motherboard and an ASUS GPU because that's what those two company's excell in.
Hmm interesting point. I’ll take note of that.
Rule of thumb in retail and in life: never buy the cheapest nor the most expensive.
Yes Sir, thank you. I am using a midrange HP Laptop, working good.
It's a shame to hear these issues. I have an ROG Strix G16 laptop, and I've been pleasantly surprised by the performance.
It's hard to say whether it'll last, but it's light-years better than my old Mac Air, despite being only a bit more expensive.
The first Asus product I remember buying was an old Fonepad 7. The sim card tray was deffective and the assistance was very responsive in picking it up and getting it repaired. I've been buying Asus hardware ever since (mostly their mid-entry level stuff, I am not into the gamer aesthetics) and it has been working great so far. I guess I am just lucky. I'll do proper research when I need to make a new build.
I loved my old Asus zenbook. But when the screen broke out of warranty, getting it repaired was a HUGE pain in the ass. I couldn't buy the display assembly online to do the repair myself, local repair shops couldn't get ahold of the screen, can only send it in to their service center. Getting them to let me send it in was tedious. And the repair ended up being $500 to replace the screen which is way too expensive.
From the laptop aide of things, I personally haven't seen that many people hating on ASUS. Cool video though 👍
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I currently have an asus tuf f17 gaming laptop and use it on a semi-daily basis. About 2-3 weeks after the warranty voids, the wifi adapter started stuttering out a lot, then broke completely. A few weeks later, the bluetooth had the same fate. I had to buy an 3rd party usb adapter for the wifi connection.
If you're out of warranty, you can likely replace the chips on the board. Would you know if the bios is locked? Or does it let you put better hardware on? Assuming it's not soldered
Msi having the same issue, which i suspect to be planned obsolescence, i did a clean install or windows 11 on my msi GL73, suddenly it stop charging the battery , there is no new bios or cw update. Decided to Google it, and boy o boy i wasn't the only one with the issue. smh
1st comment
Damn
Thanks for being early Amit!
Had no idea a boycot was goin on since it's impossible to find the Asus QD-OLED monitor
Honestly what most people should be doing is undervolting, it provides similar performance (usually a 5% decrease in performance if nothing at all) while being cooler and less power hungry, reducing the risk of thermal throttling
Undervolting consideres base spec powerlimit's and clockspeed. If you run a 7950x/13900k with the base powerlimits you will already have about 20% less performance and undervolting will only make it more.
What people should do is just set their max temp limit to 75C
how about a video about dell, acer, hp, lenovo etc? interested to know how these brands survive in the market, be it laptops, mobile, or any other consumer / enterprise pdts
DELL, Scams old people
Acer, he made a video on it but a like a dell light
HP, trying to improve
Lenovo, is like that kid got above average on a test while the test average was a 3. Their one of the best in the buisiness but that doen't make them good.
(I have had experience with DELL, HP and Lenovo. Lenovo was the worst in my opninion and HP the best. But the HP is from 8 years ago)
I also faced issue when asus rog laptop motherboard failed after week of 1 year warranty. Had to pay for new motherboard. This motherboard didn’t failed. There is no perfect brand. Hardware fail can happen with any brand anytime.
Huh... I did not know about those stuff. Crazy that after frying motherboards, they did not refund or did something positive to the clients.
Thanks for the video!
tehnician here, 70% of laptop that come to my shop were asus, their build quality were amazingly weak especially for the middle range laptop (just like the video stated).
i see ASUS products fail more than any other brand at work!
I bought a high end non gaming laptop, around 1500 bucks and it decided to die in a windows update a couple days after the warranty expired. I now have an expensive paperweight.
Almost all modern 64 bit CPU's have a thermal back-off function to keep the device from damaging itself from a combination of high clock rates and processor loading. That being said there are several hacks to defeat this feature allowing you to skate on thin ice and possibly burn up your $500+ CPU.
The overheating problem on those AMD cpu's happend so fast that your pc didn't have time to respond
Thanks for the heads up. I bought an ASUS ROG Strix 18 last year, but have not had any problems with it so far. That said, I have not overclocked anything or even changed any BIOS settings, nor have I run any particularly strenuous games on it yet. It's had some third party upgrades, replacing the RAM and SSD with higher capacity ones. It has a Core i9 13980HX, so I'm monitoring the situation about recent Core i9 heat issues. So far, it's been a great system. That said, I am aware of potential problems and don't plan on aggressive overclocking.
I bought a 2016 Asus Zenbook UX305CA and it stopped working after two years so i had the mother board replaced, then the same issue later reocurred and I had the mother board replaced again. I have not seen anything about UX305CA reliability online however the 2015 Apple MacBook, is known to have reliability issues and also has a fanless design with Intel Core M Skylake series cpus. I did of course get these logic board replacements for free thanks to Norway's mandatory garuantee for laptops of 5 years. However the issue was that the UX305 would freeze inconsistently and the issue would not always appear so I had to send it in twice every time the issue appeared.
I bought a $3000 Asus zephyrus Duo 16 Rtx 3080ti and Ryzen 9. Right after one year of warranty, the hinge on my laptop started to tear apart and I have only used this laptop at home, never dropped it or even took it outside the house.
Never am i ever buying Asus again and I would strongly advise others the same.
Tip: just don't buy a gaming laptop. Every gaming laptop uses these hinges, HP and MSI both do it. Infact MSI even got a class action lawsuit due to their weaponized incompetence with their hinges.
The absolute audacity of getting an asus ad before this video
I have a RoG laptop.
It works since now, but the cable of keyboard is damaged, because the cable layout is bad.
Now I have to use a USB keyboard all the time, if I want to use the laptop properly.
My 2nd Asus monitor motherboard also had issues after the warranty period. I was watching movies and it suddenly died.
I ended up getting a ROG X13 this past christmas as I needed a computer but the one I had ordered had been delayed. Immediately I noticed that in windows the fans barely ran, meanwhile the chassis was always super-hot... and playing games sent it to melt-lead land. I tried to do adjustments, but those never seemed to take. I ended up having to replace the ASUS software with a 3rd party software that actually set reasonable thermal controls. In the end I dumped windows entirely and switched to a linux distro. Not only did performance increase dramatically but there was enough community effort in supporting the hardware that I was able to get a fan-control that actually works exactly the way I set the curves. Since I've set the curves extremely aggressively the system doesn't get over 75C. I suspect that this will buy the motherboard at least another 2-3 years of life. But if I hadn't done that kind of aggressive configuration, I'm sure the system would only last a year. Which is a shame, because the design is actually good and I love the keyboard.
I've owned 2 asus motherboards in my life. Both had cold boot and memory issues that never went away. The Asus 280 GTX i've owned was solid.
I had no less than 5 Allys with the SD Card issue. I opted to RMA the last one, and it came back damaged. Bumper cracked and the screen protector that I had installed scratched. Absolutely unacceptable.
i have ASUS laptop and its wifi is faulty. I dont know if win11 cause this or ASUS itself. I use WIFI Dongle to fix this issue. I wasting so much time to search what the solution is.
Had Asus laptop 20yrs ago, customer service sucks even back then. Never went back.
My current Asus motherboard as been going for 5ish years strong along with other accessories. I fear when I go to upgrade that I won't have the same kind of longevity and keep putting it off. It seems like electronics in general these days aren't build to last anymore.
I never attempted to overclock any component of a pc. I don't want to reduce its usability life.
Overclocking doesn't in itself reduce the life of components. If you run your RAM at XMP/EXPO at its rated speed, you are overclocking for example.
I've never had to really deal with Asus customer support but I've had two ROG laptops and one Alienware. Both ROGs have lasted the test of time and continue to function perfectly. Even the one that is so old the battery bulged and died, runs perfectly fine if it is plugged in. The Alienware, on the other hand, died the moment warranty was over and was non-recoverable.
I had an ASUS MB. It developed a USB port issue on all ports. Receipt said I had 3 months left on the warranty. Called ASUS. ASUS says warranty starts on MFG date not purchase date. I ask, "How can I tell what the MFG is?" ASUS- "It's encoded in the serial number." Me-"How can I read it?" ASUS- "We can't tell you that"
Since then, (about 2005), I never bought ASUS again. I now and have been doing the purchasing for our IT dept at my company, which is a sizable company. I'm glad they are finally paying for their SOP's.
Don't know if I agree with the "high quality" bit, both my wife's Asus laptops had their batteries stop working after a year or so, while my Lenovos run like a clock.
I wish EVGA was still putting out hardware. Brand loyalty leads to complacent companies.
They can make GpUS again for AMD or Intel if they choose
I bought my Wife a Asus Zenbook for 950$. That is the worse I ever bought, constant blue screens, Bluetooth is not working anymore, speakers are scratching. It is a clear mainboard error, I brought it back ones and got it "repaired". The Notebook is 1.4 years old. What is worse is that it was a X-mass present for my Wife, it was the first top notch Lap-Top she ever had.
It's true. Half my kit is ASUS, And that includes several generations of PC builds over nearly two decades..
Also there's recent asus phone bootloader unlocking situation
What a horrible time for me to have built an entire ASUS ROG setup and absolutely no money to replace it.
I do have a ASUS Display (ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q).
I bought it in 2017 and tried to RMA it in 2020 just a week after the warranty ran out.
The reason is that it started to burn in the images(on an IPS panel).
They refused to repairt or replace it so I just have to live with it.
I use it as a secondary display now.
I also bought a mainboard in 2017 (X370 ROG Crosshair VI Hero) which broke last year.
I did choose to buy a ASROCK mainboard for my new PC since ASUS doesn't seem to care about quality and their users anymore.
I don’t think your suppose to overclock parts so that would void the warranty and damage hardware
In the past companies would start slipping, mostly because they are required to show growth every year which is impossible, and consumer would stop buying their products. Nuff said.
Bought a Asus gaming laptop and just after 2 days of use (moderate usage), the GPU came out to be faulty and would constantly crash or freeze the laptop
I was super excited to buy the 2022 ROG zephyrus g14 at the time of it's release, but after purchasing it, I have to say that I am quite disappointed with it's quality control and reliability.
I remember my asus phone dying all of sudden in the middle of the pandemic. I had to purchase another phone immediately, a different brand and it was one of the best phones I had.
Bought an ASUS TUF (2021 model) at the close of 2022. Bugger the camera fails 95% of the time, sometimes the wifi also fails.
I have abandon them 10 Years ago when all of this here started to emerge and never looked back at Asus.
I have an Asus B650-A Gaming Wifi and a 7 7800x3D, do I have to worry?
No. The motherboard issue that this video is talking about is for Intel sockets... 11 months ago. This video is OLD news.
My strix soundcard basically died within 2 weeks of buying it. I've been boycotting the entire strix product line ever since.
which company do you recommend for computers then?
At 28, I built my first PC for my brother, told him I'd help him instead of paying for assembly. Put the whole thing together and nothing would work. Turned out that the ASUS motherboard needed new drivers and it took 3 weeks for a computer tech to obtain the drivers from ASUS. Disaster! I felt like I screwed the pooch for him.
Damn, what a shame.
I've had my old ASUS ROG gaming laptop for years and it always ran great no matter what game I ran.
It finally died when my son left it plugged in for over a week while we were out of the state visiting family.
Was planning on purchasing a replacement, but I guess not.
Hmmm! Which motherboard was it that's in my PC? ~Checks~ Dang it! ~Starts sweating~