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HELLUVA BOSS - THE FULL MOON // S2: Episode 8
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Notice how when Stolas gave him the crystal, Blitzø wasn't excited or happy. He just kept saying he could do better. Even after being told what the gem does, Blitzø doesnt want to end the relationship with Stolas. But he has no idea how to express that. 😢
I saw you comment this on Sorta Stupid, I guess we're both watching a bunch of reactions to this
I also saw this comment on sorta stupid, we are all watching react I think you have hahaha @@brad1039
@@brad1039 Same
I’m afraid this is kind of how I predicted full moon would go in my prediction. I thought it was mostly just gonna be him and stole us being seen throughout most of the episode and we kinda got that in a way however I had a feeling there would be a hand off with the crystal signify the end ofthe relationship they somewhat had. Only for one of them to completely break out. I’m not well for lack of better words and I apologize for the pun demonizing with blitz here but he doesn’t get it. They’ve been through so many times this is what he thinks Stolas wants he doesn’t realize that he doesn’t want that kind of relationship. He wants one where both of them can love each other for who they are. I would make a comparison to one of my friendships where two Characters why ship half a more wholesome relationship not necessarily for pleasure but more so because they like each other for who they are in the sense that they love each other dearly and just like you know spending time with each other and enjoy with each other’s company and obvious comparison would be fizz and Ozzie. it’s obvious they love each other their relationship despite what they kind of represent is pretty wholesome and some regards and I think the song crooked just encapsulates that Ozzie doesn’t care about what fizz looks like he loves him. He doesn’t care what happened to him. He doesn’t care about it his appearance at all he just loves him dearly because of what he says in the song. With blitz doesn’t get it clearly he’s broken. Now I understand the impact this episode left, but because of the prediction I made I feel like I was kind of expecting what to happen that still doesn’t mean left me with a lot to think about it’s a great episode. It’s just doesn’t get it. I don’t think he’s gonna get it until the final episode of season two and how things are going. I don’t think it looks well for him, especially with the next episode apology tour and the upcoming one in November mastermind. Sorry for the very long comment. This is just how I think and I don’t know if I’m gonna post another comment explaining who the characters are since it’s kind of my own daydream fanfic scenario it’s nothing weird or gross NSFW I don’t write that it’s nasty.
Also the "you think so little of me" HE DOESN'T Blitz thinks little of HIMSELF he doesn't believe someone like Stolas so high on the ladder could ever love him and Stolas doesn't get that 😭😭
“I think so highly of you. I didn’t realize you think so low of me.” That fucking broke me. 😭
Bryce deserves a raise for that line alone
I loved the episode, but couldn't break a tear since Blitz's exaggerated demeanor made me laugh everytime
Bro how does Bryce manage to create such a perfect emotional voice in that line???
This might sound weird but I absolutely LOVE how childish and exaggerated Bitzø’s body language is while he’s screaming at Stolas, because it really highlights just how long he’s been holding onto this inferiority complex of his, and how it was instilled in him at a very young age.
When he says ‘smaller’ he does a gesture, when he says ‘important’ he throws his arms, the whole time he’s screaming he’s throwing his body around like his emotions are just too large for his body, exactly the way overwhelmed children do.
It’s so sad because it just puts extra emphasis on what we already know-Blitzø has been made to feel tiny and unimportant since he was a literal child. And that stays with you.
I'm crying 😢
OH MY LORD I’m so happy I not the only person who thinks this exact thing when I see that scene. You explained it perfectly too!🩷🩷🩷
Oh I noticed that too. Thanks for reminder 🥲
I heard that people who experienced trauma at a very young age basically stay stuck at that age aka sometimes without knowledge they do something they did as a kid without realizing it, when they are overwhelmed with emotions.
Yeah, while I get why Stolas felt so hurt by it, I can also understand that Blitz's reaction basically comes from his fear and insecurities. I can understand why he would be confused about Stolas having actual feelings for him, and it transforming into panic and rage as a defence mechanism. Something he may really regret in further episodes, but we will see how this goes. I just hope they will sort out things somewhat by the end of the season.
I just realized that the argument scene was underneath the chandelier that they played under as kids.
And Stolas covered it, too, probably to hide the painful reminder. 😭
Check out the two books left and right of where he puts the grimoire and earlier during the song the crystal. Those are the pirate and plant books he showed Blitzø when they first met.
I love how you explained Blitz’s point of view,cause some people are quick to say he doesn’t care about stolas but if he didn’t care why would he stay to have the conversation. If he didn’t care he could have just taken the crystal and left, stolas didn’t give him time to wrap his head around the fact that he has feelings for him. I feel like blitz is one of those you need to tell him how you feel for him to know cause he is smart just not when it comes to feelings beyond friendship.
And blitz has such low self esteem that he doesnt understand how anyone could love him, doesnt know how to accept those feelings and just *be loved* 😫
@@asthejayflies it’s heart breaking cause you can see it from both sides and both of them are valid. I think Blitz could have handled it better but in his mind all he could think was that someone else was pushing him away because of how damaged he is 😥
Stolas’s voice crack at the end just broke my heart 💔 😭
Yes!!! That make me cry, it was my breaking point
Always gets my teary eyed😢
Stolas's VA is my enemy because it's not okay he keeps hurting my heart like this :(
"I think so very highly of you. I didn't realize you think so low of me." That line and Stolas crying are so heartbreaking. Also, I appreciate that you understood and discussed both Stolas AND Blitzø's perspectives.
Yeah. Way too many reactors just immediately side with Stolas.
I have a feeling Apology Tour will be even sadder.
That line always gets me.
i LOVE how much you completely understood both sides of that exchange. it's so easy for ppl to get behind stolas' side and not always see blitz's perspective but goddamn yea you fully nailed it
I love how you're including Blitzø's perspective in all of this. As valid and as heartbreaking as Stolas's feelings are, he's still forgetting the one crucial point in their relationship: Stolas has all the power. As far as Blitzø is concerned, this is just a demon lord passing him off to someone else. No matter how genuine Stolas is, he still can't seem to remember that Blitzø really has never had much of a say in the matter, and that's not just something he can just acknowledge out of nowhere.
So many people are completely callous to Blitz's feelings, and tbh that feels dismissive of Stolas' VA. Because his VA did AMAZINGLY at not only showing Stolas' emotions, but the tone that would enable Blitz to misconstrue his words the way he does. People are so "right or wrong" - it's emotions and complexity.
….literally what are you talking about 😭 blitzo showed up to stolas’ house 20+ years later to steal his book, and in order to get away with it, physically came onto stolas even when he expressed discomfort. blitzo quite literally put himself into this dynamic by trying to steal someone’s shit, he isn’t being taken advantage of in that regard in any way.
if you wanna get real specific, stolas was about to realize that his book was missing when blitzo just straight up assaulted him by biting him. I understand that got stolas into the mood, but let’s be honest here. blitzo directly took advantage of stolas in order to get what he wanted. it’s not stolas’ fault that blitzo based his career off of a stolen item.
Not to mentioned the only time Stolas seemed genuine about their relationship beforehand was at Ozzie’s, which ended in disaster. (From Blitzo’s perspective, not audience)
@@lordzedd343 Yeah! It left him with the impression that Stolas was ashamed of being seen in public with him, and Ozzie's words would have solidified the belief that it's all just lust - especially because of Stolas hiding his face afterwards.
Loona got into Blitz's head at the beginning of the episode, so when it started going "south", Blitz immediately panicked because Stolas asked for the book back BEFORE giving him the Asmodean Crystal, by that point he was too full of adrenaline to come down and understand that Stolas was doing it FOR Blitz, not out of guilt about "breaking it off" with him.
And then it just went downhill from there, Stolas not understanding Blitz's self destructive behaviors and not seeing the insecurity, instead interpreting it as Blitz not also reciprocating the vulnerability.
YIKES
Not just Loona, Moxxie was worried as well about him and Stolas. But he wasn't able to talk because of Loona and ended up instilling more fear into Blitz by worrying about the book/job.
If Moxxie was the one to talk first or maybe Millie this could have been different outcome but everything went wrong from the start. Basically Loona and Moxxie's fault to a capacity.
I love how you acknowledge how sudden Stolas’ feelings for blitz are from Blitz’s point of view. Because we as the watchers KNOW how Stolas feels, we’ve seen it but for Blitz, this really is coming out of seemingly nowhere.
Only a Helluva Boss episode could start out with an amazingly fun musical number, give us a bunch of whacky bullshit Zim-like shenanigans, and then punch us directly in the gut emotionally by the end. Blitzø and Stolas's argument broke my heart. I broke down crying when Stolas said "I think so highly of you... I didn't realize you thought so low of me." F*ck who ever wrote this line bruh. I'm still crying.
Well… Stolas wanted to know what Blitzø really thought of him, and now he knows
@@jittercritter The thing is that Blitzø thinks so much more of him but he just doesn’t understand how to express it. The reason he said all of those hurtful things was because he has so much self-hatred that he couldn’t believe Stolas could think of him that way. Thus, he sabotages everything because he thinks Stolas is fucking with him. It’s really frustrating. I want them both to be happy so badly, especially Stolas.
It both is and isn't what Blitz thinks of Stolas. More precisely, it's what Blitz thinks of himself, which he then projects out onto Stolas, because Blitz is so invested in hating himself he can't imagine someone NOT hating him.
The rage of Blitzø and the sadness of Stolas... Brandon and Bryce did an amazing work here. The last 8 minutes of this episode were a masterpiece. The absolute culmination of Blitzø and Stolas' entire relationship. Brutal. Man, Stolas being Self Depricating, and Blitz being Self Destructive sure is something.
Stolas covering up the part of portraits with his face, just like Blitz does, really tells you what kind of mental spiral he’s reached
Despite all the sadness in the episode, let's appreciate the facg that Fizz and Blitz have come this far in their relationship, that they can give each other an casual fist pump ❤
This episode showed so good how complicated Stolas and Blitzo relationship is. Stolas really loves him and and tells that Blitzo directy, he wants to be with Blitzo, but Blitzo could never believe Stolas would like for who he really is. This was good to see in their song. The yelling of from Blitzo was not nice, but he really as to collect his emotion and feelings, before he loses Stolas for good.
It's also so obvious that Stolas rehearsed this, and so as soon as he got what he thought was his answer, instead of waiting for Blitz to process and understand, Stolas just started shutting down because he had this depression on the back burner that was going to trigger if it didn't go the way he wanted it to. Thus shutting Blitz out when he resorted to his typical anger response when he's confused.
Notice how Stolas didn't call Blitzø by his nickname? This shows he was willing to put aside his affection to have a serious conversation.
I Have Noticed.
I don't think he has used Blitzy since the flashback in s2e1, or at Ozzie's in s1e7. Ever since that date, the pet name has been discontinued.
This comment sounds familliar
Yeah sadly he didnt clarify this to blitzø which is way blitzø asumes its a roleplay thing, but despite the current breakup, the firt hurdle us out of the way - there is hope for my two sad/horny demon boys
Loona transformed so she'd take up less space. Smaller target to hit, easier to hide behind the pillar.
The biggest issue these two have is that both are dissociating in their own way rather then properly communicating.
The biggest issue for Blitz0 is of course Stolas didn't actually have feelings for him, no-one could ever truly love him. Everything he has ever lost in his life is his own fault. He lost his mother because of the fire he started, he lost his sister because he cost them their mother. he lost his best friend (crush?) Fizz because of that same fire. he lost Verosica because he got scared of their relationship and sabotaged it.
The two books left and right of where Stolas puts the grimoire and earlier during the song the crystal. Those are the pirate and plant books he showed Blitzø when they first met. Damn that sentimental owl!
17:10 You know what? When Erica Lindbeck auditioned for this show, she thought she was auditioning for some sort of "furry fighting game", as she puts it.
Stolas has given Blitz so many moments for him to realize how much he cares. He wanted to just chill with him. In texts he’s told him. After Ozzie’s he told him. Yes, it’s rough of Stolas to drop him, but if I had 1- hung onto Blitz for so long, and 2- experienced such deep feelings for someone, and was immediately (though Blitz didn’t mean it) seemingly mocked for them, I’d be upset too. However, it would feel more like Stolas to have given Blitz at least a day to step back, and fully absorb everything.
That’s where my problem kind of comes in with it, I love the scene so much, but it’s so reasonable for Blitz to be confused and overwhelmed and then be so quickly dismissed before he’s even allowed to properly think about what he was told, that would hurt like hell as well. So it’s a mix of just heightened emotions from both sides that’s hard to comprehend for them
Exactly. When they were chained up together, Blitzo explained to Fizz that Stolas has continuously been attempting to extend olive branches to him, and Fizz, who does not know their relationship from a hole in the ground at that point could clearly tell that Stolas *really* liked him. But Blitzo was in 100% denial mode. This is very consistent behavior from Blitzo and you can even see it in his side of the opening song where his inferiority complex once again puts him into denial mode.
@@SnowyWolborg it’s written with a lot of care so you can see where both sides are at and it’s really really heartbreaking as the audience because you know both sides hidden feelings while the characters don’t. So it’s easy to side with the one character that’s a more likeable normally when they both are kinda on equal footing with blame and emotions
The problem is that Blitz lives in the worst place in existence and he’s used to that. He’s used to fighting and laughing off everything despite how much it hurts him inside. But he can’t do that with Stolas. He wants him to be open and vulnerable, but vulnerable is such a foreign concept that he can’t allow himself to be honest with how he feels
omg i just noticed blitz blushing in “when i see him tonight” now i’m gonna cry even more😭😭😭
from blitz's perspective stolas is there just bc as blitz himself said "it's a novelty to him", from his pov stolas is only there bc of his fetish. and to be fair it's not like stolas gave him an indication of it not being that, if anything he unintentionally proved that view many times (him never properly calling blitz by his name, him constantly highlighting his "itty bitty impish"ness). so of course it's not only out of nowhere for blitz, but it's also hard to believe. so yeah, you're right in saying that he's justified
Mmh the fact that almost anyone understand Blitz in these reactions yet I understand him so much...
Also almost anyone noticed that Stolas covered his face from every paint like Blitz do,except his daughter Octavia. And THAT scene appened at the chandelier room where they used to play.
Apart from the weird insertion (giggity) of the cherubs and the D.H.O.R.K.S. I really liked the episode as it shows that relationships can be complicated and communication is key on making things work.
I feel for the both of them because Stolas was incredibly earnest, wore his heart on his sleeve and wanted his relationship with Blitz be the opposite of his relationship with Stella- while Blitz's so deep into his self-esteem issues that even when Stolas gave him the crystal so they can have an actual honest romantic relationship; Blitz's first thoughts were:
'Oh no, maybe he did get bored of me'
'What did I do wrong?'
'Am I not enough?'
And his first instincts to protect himself is to lash out. I want these babies on therapy, stat! Even if Stolitz is not endgame, damn it I want Blitz to be happy!
Weird insertion?? Not really
Poor Stolas, Blitz not understanding how that Stolas wants to change the dynamics of their relationship that there should’ve never been a contract but instead Blitz chose to reveal how he felt about him was pretty sad. Nice to see the cherubs and agents again.
I want to feel more bad for Stolas, but he really cannot blame Blitzø for being unable to process his confession.
Part of that absolutely IS Blitzø’s difficulty with processing feeings generally, but I want the show to acknowledge that Stolas holds some of the blame for Blitzø’s response by simultaneously wanting a genuine connection while maintaining the “Sugar Daddy” front for so long.
I guess it's also the fact, that Stolas didn't give him time to actually process the situation after he confessed. Such kind of pressure can result in different emotional responses depending on the person (especially if they didn't suspect the other person may have feelings for them), their life experiences and traumas. In Blitz's case, it's confusion and rage. Contrary to what most mainstream media shows, love isn't that simple of a feeiing, especially for those with emotional scars.
This conflict between Stolas and Blitzø is just so much more complicated than can be put into words exactly. It’s a reminder that Stolas DID use Blitzø for his own wants, not because he actually cared for him. LATER, those feelings came up and he began to regret his actions. Blitzø has been so used to selling himself out that when faced with a different outcome, he thinks he’s being tossed aside. He’s begging to let him try NOT because he loves Stolas, but because he’s afraid to get out of the contract, which he was so used to. His anger is completely understandable and justified, as to him, Stolas used him for a while then tossed him aside when it was inconvenient. (And also, to be fair to Blitzø, he really was just a butler to do stuff when Stolas wanted it). Blitzø needs to learn self love and respect before he even TRIES to get back with Stolas in any shape or form, and Stolas needs to heal his internal issues and self worth.
I love the duality of Stolas’s old fashioned musical number and Blitzø’s more modern one
I think your assessment of the relationship is 100% correct, they're both partially at fault but also innocent as you can see both sides of the relationship which I feel is great writing.
Okay, I gotta say that you explaining what Blitz said at the end there is really thought-provoking for me. I watched the episode on my own twice and I couldn't wrap my head around what exactly Blitz was saying and I don't think Stolas really got it all either because he only picked up on the "rich pompous asshole." All I got was a lot of anger and over so many things in his life.
Both speeches were incredibly heartfelt and heartbreaking at the same time. However, there's a difference between them. Stolas had literal months to really think about everything and form the conversation exactly how he wanted to. He was able to word everything transparently and how he wanted to say it. However, Blitz, on the other hand, DID just have this sprung upon him and wasn't able to have a continuous line of thought to convey his true feelings. He has negative feelings flooding back to him from his previous relationships, he feels angry for being ambushed like this and, at the same time, feels like he's being thrown to the side because his self esteem is so low that he doesn't believe there's a universe where Stolas would want him for HIM and not his dick.
Also, I don't know if you caught this but he tried to apologize as Stolas teleported him away. 🥺
Here's to hoping he can give a PROPER apology to him in "Apology Tour!" 🥺🥺
By far one of the most emotional and gut-wrenching episodes and literally I feel very bad for Stolas after Blitzø angrily criticized him and then bids him goodbye.
On the other hand, It was good to see the Agents from DHORKS and the Cherubs return and team up to go against IMP. Also enjoyed Moxxie & Millie and Loona’s fight against the Cherubs.
"I think so highly of you, I didn't know you thought so low of me" my emotions died right here. How dare we go from shenanigans and badassery to heartbreak so fast
I was afraid that would be how it ended. Blitzø puts up walls and hides behind the transactional side of the relationship when ever anyone suggests it is more romantic. It didn't help Loona suggesting Stolas was getting bored of him.
You do have a point, it was unfair of Stolas to just spring this on Blitzø like that. Especially given this started with Stolas twisting Blitzø's arm to agree to it when he didn't have the time to negotiate. He does need to give him time to process it.
We need an episode where stolas can be just happy the whole time, not a second of sadness
I completely agree about the final scene feeling rushed and not having enough room to breathe and show them processing their emotions, but I was very relieved at how well they did the scene regardless. Room for improvement but they still did it really well, it's a pretty understandable conflict from both parties.
It seems like Stolas, despite articulating to himself his missteps in his relationship with Blitz and seemingly acknowledging it would be understandable that Blitz would have issues with how their relationship has been, was only ready for Blitz to either completely resent him for it and not want anything to do with him, or be completely fine with everything and forgive him and jump in his arms saying he loves him... It doesn't seem like Stolas was ready for Blitz to be confused or have complicated feelings that they needed to talk through first, so at the first sign of anything short of a storybook romance ending, he cut and run. It doesn't help that Stolas has never done this before! He thinks love is supposed to be simple and straightforward, either it's there or it's not, if he confesses Blitz should know he's telling the truth because why in hell would he lie obviously if Blitz doesn't know he loves him it's because he doesn't want him to love him! He knew he hadn't treated Blitz with respect, he HAS treated Blitz as lesser. He KNEW that, but the fact that he has primarily thought about that under the train of thought of "Reasons Blitz Wouldn't Want To Be With Me" made him to afraid and hurt to actually engage with the fact that Blitz might have a problem with that EVEN THOUGH he loves him. So as Blitz is saying "I'm not letting you throw me away like I'm nothing, I'm going to fight you on this, TURN AROUND AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS, YOU SONUVABITCH." all he's hearing is that Blitz is hurt and resents him and has this entire time, without realizing Blitz isn't really pissed about everything up until now, he's pissed Stolas is pushing him away AFTER everything up until now.
I don’t really blame stolas at all, but I think that he kind of did blitzo so dirty at the end because he is already emotionally on a different level then blitz and wasn’t even given a chance to get to before he terminated things.
Blitz not taking Stolas' confession of romantic feelings has almost nothing to do with Stolas himself, it has nearly everything to do with Blitz's personal trauma and his resulting emotional unavailability. Which is why even though Blitz's outburst was far too harsh, he wasnt wrong. Stolas is an aristocrat that has no idea the type and degree of trauma and discrimination Blitz has experienced. So why Stolas was very considerate in giving the crystal to Blitz, he wasn't actually considerate of Blitz's real emotional situation, and considering the connection he has it'd probably be pretty easy for Stolas to do some basic research about Blitz's past. Like when Stolas learned that Fizz hated Blitz he could have just asked around to find out more, or even just look up the Circus he knows Blitz was apart of, which would have immediately informed him about the Fire and would give him much needed context for Blitz emotional state. Stolas didn't ask any questions about why Blitz is the way he is or why he would have the response he did to Stolas' confession, he only cared about his own emotional needs. Which exactly what Via meant when she said in S2E2 to Luna: "Why does he hate her (Stella) more than he loves me?!", and we hear Via say something similar about Stolas loving Blitz more than he loves Via.
Neither one had a healthy family relationship with healthy communication growing up. Both of them are struggling through not having the skills, and just aren't connecting understanding with each other.
Like every episode so far, This one was definitely worth the wait!
It was nice to see the Cherubs return after all this time, And to see them team up with those two Dhork agents was very interesting! And I loved the badass fight scene between the Cherubs and the IMP employees!
As for Blitz and Stolas's interaction in this episode, All I'll say is that is went about as well as we all expected. Though I will say that with a cliffhanger of an ending like that the episode should've a few minutes longer since now there's gonna be so much to resolve throughout the rest of the season.
19:20 feels like the worst possible way to broach the conversation
19:41 and the stumbling over his words AH
20:49 and the nervous tail swish help
21:46 and this (people have mentioned the lack of antidepressants that day - jfc cold turkey until he refills it) is the first key moment (for me) from my POV where we can avoid the worst scenario. Instead of taking his confusion as a final answer that says there's no chance/basis, you say "I'm not roleplaying. I'm...serious."
And then tell him (like I thought he would after Look My Way) to please think about it, and if you want to give it a try...I'll be here."
The second opportunity would be if by pure coincidence Stolas hesitated for one more second before throwing out Blitz (...dismissing him?) because as soon as he noticed Stolas' reaction all the confused-anger driving the moment dissipated and he immediately went for an apology-- which likely wasn't heard (because it was cut off and fictional characters can't autofinish thoughts well, and because he would be too busy processing his shattering [realization] to really hear that "sorry" until later or never. The conversation in both these spots could've gone on for a good while and just 30-60s more would've had the episode end on a slight positive progression
Indeed!
Such a masterfully composed tragedy.
Finally someone else that saw that it looked like a pokedex lmao
Also this was so emotional for both parties involved (stolas and blitz) because i understand both their sides, and a crazy fight scene with the cherubi's and i.m.p. love the reaction this is already a fav episode.
Also love that blitz and fizz are back to being close that fist bump was so adorable.
Blitzø saying “I can always do better” in regards to sleeping with Stolas was so sad. Also what makes it worse that they clearly love each other but both of them are awful at communicating it. Blitzø more so but Stolas still could have really communicated that better as well IMO. 😢
Also Thank you! Finally a reactor that catches that Blitzø is hurting too and Stolas didn’t even even give him a chance to process it.
I really like the insight I saw someone else comment about on how really, at least at the start for this series every relationship Blitz has is, at least to an extent, transactional, and how that can relate to his traumas so he’d be in a place where he’s too scared to get attached to someone but still feels a need to have his own sort of family around him, so being in these areas of employment and deals and everything allows him to have that closeness while still feeling secure that they have a reason for the connection outside of just himself. So while Stolas is feeling it as keeping him prisoner, to him it’s essentially the groundwork he put in place for these close relationships. I hope we do see some more of Fizz since that is essentially the first relationship he’s had that wasn’t built on transactions, and connects much stronger to his whole childhood and everything that happened and I hope we can see some growth there, as well as obviously with Stolas too. I love this glorious trainwreck
To me I think deep down Stolas knew this would be how Blitzø would respond because of how bad he is at processing his emotions and how bad he is at letting people care about him. I think that it was almost his way of self sabotage, similar to how Blitzø is constantly self sabotaging himself. His first response was to protect himself by lashing out because it’s really his fight or flight response, hurt someone before they have the chance to hurt you. And I think he had also been convincing himself this entire time that Stolas was doing this because of his status and because imps are seen as lesser that it hadn’t even crossed his mind that it wasn’t the case. I think it was also easier for him to digest than believing that Stolas was in love with him, because then that would put both of them in the wrong. Blitzø had seen something coming, he just didn’t think Stolas would actually say anything, as referenced by his feelings of how complicated things were and how strained he was when he just repeated ‘we’re fine’. He just thought that what was coming was Stolas cutting him off completely, because Blitzø is so used to others doing that from his self sabotaging behaviors, which, in the end, is what ended up happening because he lashed out.
We all know blitz won’t think about it… he’s gonna get drunk and make wrong decisions, both have depression, and they are immature, so the best for both is to stay away… 💔 none of them is wrong… and I cryyyy rivers we the voice of the actor breaks when he said I didn’t know you think so low of me, damn a stab hurt less
I can see it from both sides i think there's still a huge lack of communication they we're both quick to cut eachother off mid sentence and not give eachother the chance to properly think and answer. Stolas is a lot more intune with his emotions than blitz is. But thats not to say that blitz is void of emotion he just regulates through it at a different pace than most other demons/hellborn.
17:30 There was German game called Gothic which starts when you are thrown down into prison with no escape. First thing you see after falling is some guy picking you up, saying "welcome to the colony" and knocking you out by punching you in the face.
I kinda feel like the pacing was a little off with the inclusion of the Cherubs being there. but i still love this episode and i hope DHORKs and the Cherubs get their own episode though.
With thier relationship, its complicated. I.. kinda hate how people get so angry with Blitz very quickly, without thinking of how his life and his feelings were at this moment. He believes that their relationship, is just about s€×. Which is fair, given how this relationship started. And Stolas hasn't quite explained his feelings before to him, so this is sorta out of the blue for Blitz. They also have a power dynamic. Stolas is way more powerful than Blitz and is of higher power. Which makes Blitz feel inferior towards him. Also to add in that Blitz hates himself and doesn't believe that anyone would love him truly. So when he sees that Stolas does, it confusing for him to process. For Stolas, its also hard. His line of, " I think so highly you, I didn't think you'd think so low of me." That hits because he didn’t expect Blitz to think of him as like "any other Goetia". He has tried to give some sort of attention towards him and wants him around him. It also could be heartbreaking of how Blitz reacted to his confession, he believes its a lie. Which hurts. Idk but yikes! 😅
I like your analysis because this is a very gray and real way to show characters have good and bad sides, that both commit mistakes and both also have good qualities. They both have something to say, and we also get a lot of info through all chapters until now, and we see how similar they are. There's a lot of parallelism happening between them, they're both very bad at communicating too. Stolas speech here was amazing, proud of him for that, not really the overall delivery of the whole conversation though. Starting asking for the book was wrong, no heads up or preparation when Blitzø enters with a very different mood going on.
Fun fact: Stolas covered his face like Blitz does, just letting him care, that is, Octavia {he covered himself too😭😭😭}
I just want to keep in mind dont be mad at blitz like we all know that 1. He doesnt love himself from how he acts and how he portays himself visuallly like you see him didnt care about this crystal he was more worried about was he not doing it right i could do better etc and 2. For a long time it was a business transaction between them and blitz didn't think stolas would or could devolep feelings for him cause in ozzies when blitz droppped stolas he said stolas makes it clear its just about having a goood time so this is where the feelings for both of them flourish stolas fell in love with blitz cause he made him who he is today or at least feel more like the stolas we know and with blitz he found someone that clearly wants him maybe as a transaction but wants him
This makes "look my way" hurt even more now 😢
I feel like it's a good thing the last scene is quick, because it passed quickly for the characters too, as we saw for Blitz who didn't have time to truly compose himself (not that it would have changed much, the whole problem on his part being the self-hatred that prevented him from seeing all the previous signs that Stolas loved him, that even Fizz had picked up) to Stolas who said everything he needed to get an answer he took as rejection, and quickly shut down then got overwhelmed after.
Man you got to praise Brandon and Bryce's voice acting in the end. And I like that you're explaining that while they both have different perspectives, they're also in the wrong too
Blitz believes he is just some cheap dollar store toy, embraced to have someone play him and force himself to avoid being disposable like he always feel
While Stolas believed that Blitz doesn't care about Stolas as long as he has the book/do the deed, from the screenshot in the Circus episode to the text message in the Western episode, and all Blitz said at the end is enough proof of that
IT WAS SO FUCKING PAINFUUUUUL
Absolutely it was painful 😥 poor stolas he must’ve felt like Spyro in my jaws without his plot armor XD metaphorically and by a funny bad ending reference XD that’s how hurt stolas felt 😣❤️🥺XD
when blitz realizes whats going on he said he could be better😭😭 that rlly got me extremly
The Cherubs became POWER RANGERS!
I do also like that the DHORKS based their mech suits on each of the 3 imps. I noticed the tall one had markings like Blitz's arms the first time, but only just noticed the other two. Even though Millie points out that it's mimicking her.
Still wondering who it was who was cosplaying as Loona.
@@phousefilms the DHORK man. You see him put the head on briefly, and he's still wearing the rest without head when the Cherubs return.
@@chromwell7680 Oh, lol! Loved the shot of him walking away sadly after the DHORK lady stops him from going with them.
I am glad you are seeing it from Blitzo’s POV too because yeah while Blitzo’s reaction to taking his confession as some kind of RP was partly because Blitzo hates himself and doesn’t think anyone can really love him, THIS has been the nature of their relationship for the most part up to now. Stolas was very dismissive of Blitzo and once Blitzo realized he was serious perhaps he should have “go home and think about it, I’ll be here”, but Stolas is so sure of his feelings for Blitzo that he thinks that Blitzo should also know how he feels about him. Blitzo lives in denial about many things so obviously that is a false assumption. So Blitzo’s argument back is still legitimate, on course he obviously had the wrong idea on how Stolas valued him. Although Stolas’s reaction may have been a mood swing too because he ran out of his anti-depression medication earlier in the episode too. However Stolas’s last line basically says “you still don’t believe I was serious about wanting to be with you, you think I thought so lowly of you because you were an imp and that I didn’t mean it.” Although to be fair Stolas has been condescending to Blitzo about being an imp before so Blitzo is still valid in thinking that, although obviouslyStolas’s does care for him. has bee been Anyway wonder if Blitzo is gonna be a mix of angry and hurt and lashing out in the next episode until he see’s Stolas’s breakout song maybe he will finally realize he has feelings for Stolas and that Stolas really did as well and start to make amends?
Yeah! The point of Luna going to her human form was to be smaller behind the pillar, since you can see her sticking out from it before she got shot. I've seen a few reactions to this episode, and that's one of my favorite parts of the fight, such a great detail
Am I the only one who saw this Amphibia reference with the portal to another dimension/place starting out tiny? 10:31
Yeah, stolas didn't realize blitz wouldn't be able to react in a healthy way RIGHT AWAY which doesn't oc require stolas to stay in that unhealthiness, but kind dropping this on blitz and then saying immediately that okay, you don't care about me. He kind of put up a wall to avoid ending up hurt and interpreted Blitz's feelings and words without really letting him say more that could feel like even worse of an rejection.
I am 100% sure that stolas will start dating:" I want someone to want....me" , blitz mindlessly fucking and self destructing, and after it really hits him emotionally, in the end: wanting to be better "I don't want to be like this forever".
I was annoyed with Blitz in 1x7 for the same reason why I'm annoyed with Stolas in this episode. They finally start talking and then one of them shuts down communication. Stolas finally started to tell Blitz that he just wants to spend time together, but he did it right after showing Blitz that he's embarrassed to be seen with him in public, so Blitz cut him off. This time Blitz finally does start talking about his feelings, but they're not what Stolas wants to hear (seems like he was hoping for a romance fantasy where the grand gesture of the crystal meant they don't have have to talk through their shit), so he cuts Blitz off.
Yes! A romantic fantasy, that's the perfect way of putting it.
Stolas has been romanticizing this whole time in a very unhealthy way-he thinks and acts in big, grandiose ways, and gets caught up without thinking of others.
Compare him to Ozzie and Bee-both who are very ostentatious and larger than life in public, but are much more grounded in their personal lives.
Poor Stolas.
I don’t think Blitzo is entirely wrong at the end here. He needs time to process this.
For sure! They both had a lot of feelings and Blitzo deserved time to process it all. He had no idea what had been going on for the last few months :(
I get the impression that's how the timing of the scene was supposed to play out and the cherubs were meant to fill in the rest of the time
They both hurt no one but themselves with their own insecurities and don't realize that they do love each other... _NOW THAT'S TRUE _*_ROMANCE!!!_*
Ik this isn't Helluva related but did you see the picture Jeremy shared for Miraculous S6, I doubt they're actually the finished product but it looks amazing, anyway I felt bad for Stolas & Blitzo in this episode, Stolas wants to love Blitzo but, Blitzo doesn't want to let anyone love him 😭 I hope they get a happy ending in the future they deserve it
In a way I can understand Blitzo
He wants to make this relationship better because he fears that Stolas might leave him for what he does
Stolas on the other hand, is trying to make this relationship work, but maybe now Stolas had the thought of “What if this relationship isn’t working?”
I had a similar relationship with my ex. When she decided to pull a complete 180, I was questioning why the hell would she suddenly become toxic towards me, and I was questioning why she was like this. So, like Stolas, I went to someone to get some advice like how Stolas went to Asmodeus to get some advice.
I was a mixture of both Blitzo and Stolas
I was Blitzo because I didn’t understand and this was out of left field, but I was willing to do anything to make this relationship better
I was Stolas in seeking for advice as to what’s truly going on.
It’s been a full year and I’ve moved on from her since then.
I definitely think they added the cherubs to be comedic relief because Blitz and Stolas scene is heartbreaking
Luna was too BIG to hide behind the pole, so she changed to make herself SMALLER.
Deep inside, blitzø was using their transactional contract so he could meet stolas without admiting his feelings to himself. So even after being given the crystal he still was scared of loosing the deal. "I can do better."
I feel like Blitzø's own self-loathing is what prevents him from a having a meaningful relationship with Stolas. Between the way that his father treated him, blaming himself for the way he lost his mom, and his sister wanting nothing to do with him, I think he feels like he's not even worth loving. Even if Fizz forgave him for what happened, and even if he earned the forgiveness of everyone he's ever hurt (excluding the people he was paid to kill), the one person that won't be able to forgive is himself.
I'm still wondering how his relationship with Verosika ended, but i have a theory that Blitzø imploded the relationship when things got serious. He pretty much did everything he could to show her that he was not worth loving or sticking around for, just so she would break it off and leave him. But we'll just have to wait and find out.
Well….that censored toy has a name. Just oh my.
What sucks is it shows stolas ran out of his meds too. And from experience I can tell you just how badly your mind can be thrown off when that happens even without something else stressfull going on. He essentially was in the worst state of mind he could have been.
22:19 "yeah" ?
23:07 big oof because it's also like... he was forced out of the manor but didn't intend to actually run away or storm out yet. Maybe not even underneath the confused anger-upset was a clear "you're not getting rid of me that easily." Even before that when he got the crystal it was like "are you giving me this to get rid of me, 'cause I can change your mind to let me stay!" which was interesting
So it like...it's extra ouch bc the hurtful words surrounding it didn't leave for much processing in the moment. I wonder if Stolas' will notice if he goes back over the conversation later (like people do when emotions settle- that's normal right). I really hope he eventually processes the apology Blitz almost got out, but apart from Loona, fictional characters are concerningly bad at autofilling dialogue
the way Blitzø looks to Stolas, visibly seeking approval, as he shows off the sex toys 😢 like he's still a little kid it breaks my heart
Ah, the episode where we knew things were going to end badly and it still shattered our emotions.
Stolas's escape might be memories of his abusive exwife yelling at him sadly. Hence the running and flinching. Just a huge trauma train exploding in the station :(
Poor Stolas, bareing his soul only to be brushed off. Nothing can hurt more than indifference.
Poor Blitz, thinking so low of himself that he feels his actions are so inconsequential nothing he feels matters. (reminds me of scott pilgrim in a way)
Poor Loona, whatever sound designer made that yelp when her arm got shot really knows how to hurt your soul
33:39 I lowkey think that was the point. Kinda to emphasize the chaotic and quick nature of the conversation
We also have to remember that although Stolas is not actively classist/racist, he portrays tendencies that are and is blind to it due to how he sees Blitz as an equal in a world where they very much are not. He talks down to Blitz, calls him condescending nicknames despite Blitz's dislike of it, and so on. He even abused his Imp butler by using him as a stress toy while on the phone with Stella. Stolas may not be a pompous prick, but his failure to realise the very real class disparity between them has lead him to inadvertently acting as such. It's something he unwittingly plays into even in that final scene with how he controlled the narrative.
Also, another thing to keep in mind, Stolas 100% is the one who made it a sex thing. His entire persona up until Ozzies had been "I have a fetish for Imps, you're my Imp friend, and I'm VERY lonely" so of course Blitz's first reaction is going to be "oh he has a new fetish", so this is where Stolas would've needed to double down and show that he is being serious instead of walking away. Blitz not processing the situation correctly is not an answer to Stolas' question
This episode broke me
You can see through the WHOLE day how blitz is trying to express how he feels. They ask “yes but the mood?” Anyone just for sex would know what “mood” they wanted. He dressed up for him! And at the moment with the asmodian you can see his tail wagging like “please I’m a good boy please 🥹” and then he literally compares himself to a servant and it’s important to remember stolis has played with his heart strings from hiding at Ozzie’s to saving him from nerds to getting hurt… stolis is someone who LITERALLY CHOSE HIM OVER FIZZ AS A *CHILD!* he can deal with trauma but being loved and adored… that “THE SHIT YOU HAVE PUT ME THROUGH!!!” Love is pain so when he says “I WONT LET YOU LETS GO!” he’s asking him BEGGING HIM to have this fight with him… hate him… show him it’s all a lie because stolis has only seen his best… not his worst… and he wants him to see his worst…. He wants him to understand WHY he can’t be loved!!!!
Blitzo want to love someone but don't know how.
For example Verosika loved Blitzo but he broke her heart. [On here shoulder she has tatue with name Blitzo
Plus as yonger he have some love interest in Fizz. #S02 E06 Flashback Circus Fizzy's birthday
Not blaming Asmodius or Fizz, but he did plant the idea that Stolas is just using Blitzø, but is also amplified by the fact that Blitzø thinks so low about himself that he thinks that no one could ever love him.
now I have to play a serious tactical shooter to not cry from this episode. damned good writing from vivzie
Is it over for these 2?! 💔
Also full moon? I think I saw a big bright orange moon last week. Is that's what that was?
For now.
😂 that Loona fursuit gets me every sene it's in.
If you want to add another layer of tragedy to that ending, neither of these two know how to love, from both their own insecurities and ofc the fact one is so starved with love due to his abusive marriage and the other is afraid to love thanks to how everything constantly goes wrong if he lowers his guard.
I've seen people online call this "poor communication", but I see this as something worse: No communication at all, look at Millie and Moxie, look at Ozzie and Fizz, their relationship is not just lovey-dovey, they actually take time to talk to each other, to be honest with each other, and then work together through those bumps.
Every time Stolas and Blitz shared a scene until this point it's either constantly sexually charged, or they are facing some kind of danger and have to surpass it (Striker, DHORKS capturing IMP, Octavia going missing), there's not a single moment where these two actually stop to talk like adults, so of course the one time Stolas tries to, it all went wrong.
This relationship has always been unhealthy and this was the natural conclusion, for them to actually start loving each other, they need to actually talk, to get to truly know each other. Which, I feel is what this story arc is gonna lead into!
If you look back at Fizz when he's entering the storeroom, he's typing onto that keypad on the wall. And the keypad is making some funny faces. 😂
D.H.O.R.K.S: let’s make combative priests!
The force recon unit and seals: are you fucking kidding me?
I think another huge issue is Blitz literally couldn't comprehend that Stolas could be genuine and resorted to deflecting it as roleply or a joke because being treated as a sex object or a joke keeps things from getting too serious and when he realized Stolas was serious he asked for a minute to process and Stolas wouldn't let him. He kept walking a way. He did dismiss Blitz. Because Stolas is talking and sharing his feelings but he's not listening to Blitz. I'm not saying Stolas should be a mind reader or have to read between lines, but being upset and shutting down and walking away from Blitz because Blitz views everything as sex thing, or as something not to take seriously or even just needing a moment and lashing out, was unfair of him. Look at how Stolas was in early season one and how he talked to and treated Blitz and tell me it isn't totally reasonable for Blitz to assume everything is about sex. Especially since, as we saw in the beginning of this episode, he was finally coming to terms with what they are and what the relationship was and opening up to the idea that maybe he enjoys it and enjoys spending time with Stolas.
"I need this book, id do anything for it" and then he gets something better but dosent take it, he still asks for the old arrangment....he wants stolas, he NEEDS him. ❤😢
you explained both of their perspectives so correctly it’s crazy, like how blitz and stolas feel in this situation. UGHHHH💔 need them happy NOW.