He was shifting with his thumb up on 3-4 in the early parts of the video. On the money shift he turned thumb down, which put a little force to the left sending it to 2nd.
@@Altron21 this. Most people that drive manuals don't know how to position their hand when shifting, placing it on the shifter correctly pretty much rules out money shifting. Though in a race it can still happen to anyone because of all the adrenaline and messing about
didn't shift hard enough, your supposed to see a steel plate fall out the bottom of your car, and bolts start spilling out like spent minigun cartridges and a sexy robot voice saying danger to manifold
It's a classic situation we've all found ourselves in, in the 1/4 mile long stretch of an empty parking lot with our two massive 100 shots of NOS™️. Tale as old as time.
You are right mate, that set up was the main cause of the money shift. Aw well shit happens. Since then I have already binned the whole set up and dropped a new K24 race engine. Stay tune :)
Exactly what I was thinking, having it as a offset handle to the shifter looks weird and potentially punishing if you go on to learn tracking in a car without that odd setup. Not sure on the cost of sequential gearboxes but I'm glad you had the same thought.
I understand the concept, it is just one of those things where you can understand and see the concept, but you still don't understand the style. Preferences can be different from racer to racer.
@@zekeinvest7041 it depends. really how fast were you going, it isnt the shift itself, its the transmission instead of multiplying your engine rotations, the transmission multiplies your wheel rotations into your engine. that probably made no sense, either way have the engine checked out.
@@user-hr2zy7ct8h do you even know what money shifting is??? He accidentally shifted down a gear instead of up, sometimes you hit the wrong gear on your shift knob near the top of your rev limit and you engine being a pressurized system with moving internals just cant handle moving that fast and will usually just blow
@@djstatyk1540 Transmissions explode at 4000 rpm higher than they should? which is why the sound gets louder? yknow like... the thing thats making noise constantly?
Tip: The shifts tend to go in the direction your palm faces. Whenever I'm doing an upshift (other than a 1-2) as a LHD driver, my thumb points downward (palm facing away from driver) so I don't miss it. I'd rather miss high than miss low. I've never seen this tip mentioned in any manual driving CZcams video.
A nice, succinct way to summarize this habit (that I'd never heard before). Every time I see one of these videos, I get paranoid that I'll slip up on a track day and have this happen to me, but I think my muscle memory is already set to what you describe--doesn't mean I'd be infallible, but hopefully I can worry a bit less and not make this mistake.
that was a spicy one. really suspenseful watching this and going "oh, oh, is this the one..?" and then you hit a good shift lol (edit: don't mind me, just fishing for subs.
The shifter extension is what killing him.. it offsets the original position more toward the driver, making his arm movement going diagonal instead of straight one!
Hahahha I was just watching him race forgetting it was a money shift video. That shit was so unexpected to me, just as much as it was to the drive lmao.
@@EloynAmmillio yeah and he stops on the track , track etiquette would be to immediately pull off to the side and other drivers will see this and slow down , all the tracks I’ve been too have said in case of any mechanical issues where you can’t drive your car anymore is to pull off the track immediately, your putting yourself and others at risk by stopping on track , I know and I’m sorry I’m ranting but it’s dangerous to be honest
That shifter looks too uncomfortable, it’s way too high and restricts your range of motion when shifting. In other words asking for something to happen like this.
Yeah. It's extremely stupid. Makes the shift throw 10 feet long and kills all feedback from the shifter gates and synchros. Tried it once like a decade ago when the shifter extensions were all the rage and immediately went back to using the stock one.
That was waiting to happen with a shifter setup like that. The way you bend your wrist and how far your elbow moves behind your shoulder is completely wrong. Back to the drawing board on that one unfortunately
@@Cel2333 Sure. As a mechanical engineer having worked for multiple OE's and OEM's hopefully my advice isn't shrugged at, but each to their own of course. Every person's body is different, but for optimal operation, your forearm should be as close to perpendicular to the shifter as possible (thus generally parallel to your transmission tunnel). ie: your fist should be at the same height as your elbow. If not achievable, you're better off with the shifter lower rather than higher. This addresses the height of the shifter placement/configuration. For the longitudinal position of the shifter, you don't want your elbow to extend behind your mid-section. This is for multiple reasons but the primary for myself and lots of people I have worked with is it's far more comfortable to extend your elbow/arm forward rather than backward. There's just far more flexibility and thus reach with your shoulder blade (reaching forward) rather than the front of your shoulder/chest (moving your arm back). You may not notice after just a few shifts on the street but do it for hours on end or under pressure like on the track and you will make far more mistakes if you're not driving within these parameters. Ergonomics aren't really something we focus on when we modify our own cars but in the OE space it's critical.
Not really you can see he positions his hand for a downshift when he does it, he didn’t do that for any other 4th gear shift. That was straight human error it’s like he had a brain fart and shifted into second on purpose, but by accident if you get me.
Haha. I did this in my rsxs TWICE once when I bought it and once a couple months later. Got me to learn quick lol. Much stiffer springs, ride gate 4th to 5th 🤌 proper. Literally stiff ass springs and the only sketchy shift becomes 4th to 5th but just ride the gate and your good. 3rd to 2nd is also sketch but won't do too much harm at all if you do mess it up, probably stall as it'll go into 4th most likely.
I hate when money shift or crash videos are an hour long sends my anxiety not knowing when it’s coming! Haha I also love how he keeps it centerline of the track for a good 300ft after dumping his block into the track until he remembered to get it out of the racing line lol
here before this 'blows up' edit: hey i own a miata as my first car now now. when i wrote this comment it was just a dream. Im 15 years old now. Someone comment and remind me in another year when this 'blows up'
I know this video is pretty old, but 2 things caused that: 1: The shifter extension. It is too high, which causes you to have a bad grip, see point 2: 2: Your grip. You need to get into the habit of gripping the shifter specifically for each shift, in such a way that it forces the right shift each time. For example: From 1st to 2nd, palm against the right side of the shifter (like how you money shifted). 2nd to 3rd, palm directly behind the shifter, push straight up, it will naturally cross the gate to 3rd. 3rd to 4th, palm on top, push straight back. 4th to 5th, palm the left side of the shifter. Reverse this for downshifts. Many people have a habit of grabbing the shifter on top, or wrapping their fingers around it the same way for every shift, and relying on muscle movement to force the stick in the right direction. If you simply palm it correctly, you dont need to direct the shifter, as it will naturally go the intended route.
I thought he was going for 4th at first but he was going into a corner, also the way he handled the stick makes it clear he was aiming for 2nd gear... seems someone got a bit to excited.
Its so scary because its such an easy mistake to make. As soon as I saw that long high g right hander I knew thatd be the money shift. I almost did this once on a racetrack with a crowned straight-away. Fortunately I was in an Rx-7 and it didnt overrevv but damn, scary...
Man this sounded way too similar to the time time I smoked a full built NA D16Z6. The clattering of the valves pin balling in the cylinders is a sound like no other lol I even had some small metal chunks sitting inside the muffler tip. Have yet to make that mistake again, knock on wood. Hope I never do. It was heartbreaking.
For all the years I had my built turbo ep3 living about 6 miles from this track, knockhill Scotland, I never tracked it. This being one of the many reasons I didn’t, can happen to anyone with just a moment’s lapse in concentration. Way more likely to happen in a Honda 😢
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I love how he tries to put it back in gear after all those little bits of metals we hear falling everywhere on his stripped floor xD
I think he was just trying to get it into a gear to get off the track. No such luck though
@Jamie Boreham 🤣
What a sadist
It's the denial for me
I guess he didn't read the title of this video.
I wasn't expecting it in the 3-4 shift. A shame he didn't have the damage setting set to "cosmetic"
Ded
Tsk. Bush league.
yeah same, i was expecting a 4-5 but to 3 instead
He was shifting with his thumb up on 3-4 in the early parts of the video. On the money shift he turned thumb down, which put a little force to the left sending it to 2nd.
@@Altron21 this. Most people that drive manuals don't know how to position their hand when shifting, placing it on the shifter correctly pretty much rules out money shifting. Though in a race it can still happen to anyone because of all the adrenaline and messing about
didn't shift hard enough, your supposed to see a steel plate fall out the bottom of your car, and bolts start spilling out like spent minigun cartridges and a sexy robot voice saying danger to manifold
LMAO
LMAOOOO F&F moment
Green celica moment
It's a classic situation we've all found ourselves in, in the 1/4 mile long stretch of an empty parking lot with our two massive 100 shots of NOS™️.
Tale as old as time.
@@killerboogybl8541 eclipse but sure.
*takes a slow drag of a cigarette* "you wanna rev it to 11000 rpm"
"Thanks, dad"
most fun thing to do to $500 crapboxes, you don't want anymore. I WONDER WHAT HAPPENS IF WE REMOVE THE REV LIMITER
Don't you dare lose
1:07 ARRRGHHH !
the suspense on every up shift lmao
I think put the shifter lower. Look like it blocked your hand and changed your grip which caused you to do something you normally wouldn't do
You are right mate, that set up was the main cause of the money shift. Aw well shit happens. Since then I have already binned the whole set up and dropped a new K24 race engine. Stay tune :)
That's very perceptive!
@@incyphe ENGINE BLOWN!
@@szymon6207 ok
@@Bonson86 i didnt know they made k24 race blocks. Cuz they didnt.
Yeah I love these videos, especially when they don't show the aftermath because no one wants to see it.... Cmon guys
Everyone who records video cuts it short on sum bullshit
Imagine if the video never existed at all...
@@BDoggy45 Conformism is bad.
Fell free to fuck your own gearbox going round Knockhill.....Christmas is months away... stop your fucking greeting
@@iloveangrysheepsex2811 Relax junior, I was complaining that no one ever shows the aftermath of blown transmissions. Why the hate?
Might as well been a sequential with a tall shifter like that.
Exactly what I was thinking, having it as a offset handle to the shifter looks weird and potentially punishing if you go on to learn tracking in a car without that odd setup. Not sure on the cost of sequential gearboxes but I'm glad you had the same thought.
Some event/class prohibits Sequential Trans
Racers use tall shifters so they dont have to move their hands far from the wheel.
I understand the concept, it is just one of those things where you can understand and see the concept, but you still don't understand the style. Preferences can be different from racer to racer.
I thought it was a sequential shifter
Remember people: Every car can shift up to 20k rpm at least ONCE
I money shift from 2 - 1 once. Does that mean if I do it again I’m toast?
@@zekeinvest7041 it depends. really how fast were you going, it isnt the shift itself, its the transmission instead of multiplying your engine rotations, the transmission multiplies your wheel rotations into your engine.
that probably made no sense, either way have the engine checked out.
@@zekeinvest7041 how did you money shift from 2-1 did you stick it in reverse
no instead of shifting up to 3rd i went into 1st@@mintchoco4318
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Someone once told me the rev limiter only works on the way up....
They were right 🤯
Double tap the gas and downshift it makes a smooth downshift
@@andrashock6380 it was. the reason he broke his transmission is because he was granny shifting, not double clutching like he should.
@@user-hr2zy7ct8h do you even know what money shifting is??? He accidentally shifted down a gear instead of up, sometimes you hit the wrong gear on your shift knob near the top of your rev limit and you engine being a pressurized system with moving internals just cant handle moving that fast and will usually just blow
@@user-hr2zy7ct8h I got that reference
@@Carneasadaconquesoyfrijoles Im guessing andras hock didn't though...
Transmission last words: VroooooooVROOOOMSLDKSKJFKAJD
You mean engine??
huh?
@@Nekro_15 No.... it was transmission. shush. Big boys are talking.
Engine: VvvV Bbbbghhffbvcra set BCD’s cRasHedsaaSbs
@@djstatyk1540 Transmissions explode at 4000 rpm higher than they should? which is why the sound gets louder? yknow like... the thing thats making noise constantly?
I did this once going 90mph on track with my s2000 and all it did was make me spin. Gear box was just fine luckily 😅
Dang, thank God you're alive
😵😬😵😬
You're probably in the lower side of revs. Lucky enough to not overstrain the gear you shifted into
Probably because it was RWD. Lucky!!!!
Subscribe to Cameron lilly s2000 he fixes them!
Rumor has it everytime someone money shifts a mechanic simultaneously takes his wife out car shopping
Nah, we don't make enough for that. We just keep their stuff running forever. Most of us drive complete beaters
Tip: The shifts tend to go in the direction your palm faces.
Whenever I'm doing an upshift (other than a 1-2) as a LHD driver, my thumb points downward (palm facing away from driver) so I don't miss it. I'd rather miss high than miss low. I've never seen this tip mentioned in any manual driving CZcams video.
Exactly his hand positioning was for a second gear shift not 4th which shouldnt use any palm. Especially not palming towards left like he did
Yeh I saw it too, it’s like he shifted down on purpose, but by accident. He didn’t shift like that earlier in the vid.
A nice, succinct way to summarize this habit (that I'd never heard before). Every time I see one of these videos, I get paranoid that I'll slip up on a track day and have this happen to me, but I think my muscle memory is already set to what you describe--doesn't mean I'd be infallible, but hopefully I can worry a bit less and not make this mistake.
I think he saw an opportunity to take and he was gonna milk it. But the car was like hahahahaha
oooh good tip, I am going to use this!
Whoever marked the entire first minute as an intermission in SponsorBlock, you a real G.
that was a spicy one.
really suspenseful watching this and going "oh, oh, is this the one..?" and then you hit a good shift lol
(edit: don't mind me, just fishing for subs.
Haha 😂😆 me too I kept saying when
holy sht im like number 666
Sorry you appeared on a hitman channel
lmao so true
Haha i was going to say thus
money-delete shift, that's gotta be expensive
LOLL
Damn, that was an extreme death at what, 11000 rpm? The engine lasted only a few seconds before detonating!
It is a rsx type s
@@tylarroache6076 Honda Integra* probably a Type R
Laughed WAY too hard at this 😅😅😅😅😅
"I'm never gonna financially recover from this"
1:03
yes
Thx
Thanks for saving our time
it not my fault, the clutch was too short :D
And here I was, expecting a "gas gas gas, I'm gonna step on the gas."
Valve springs said ”good bye” at least!
@Budget Boost DIY sorry to break it to ya but read the description
Probably put a leg out the bed the way it sounded. Bits of block material bouncing off the underside of the car
@Budget Boost DIY They are not infallable!🤣
I’ve never felt more anticipation through a screen until now, absolutely heart breaking at the end, the silence tells all
The shifter extension is what killing him.. it offsets the original position more toward the driver, making his arm movement going diagonal instead of straight one!
Sammy your breaking the car sammy
Brooooooo 😂🤣💀
Love hitting a good shift on a good day on a good track
Hahahha I was just watching him race forgetting it was a money shift video. That shit was so unexpected to me, just as much as it was to the drive lmao.
And you didn’t pull into grass and just coasted on the track , nice
This is what I was thinking, like wtf get off the track bro
@@EloynAmmillio yeah and he stops on the track , track etiquette would be to immediately pull off to the side and other drivers will see this and slow down , all the tracks I’ve been too have said in case of any mechanical issues where you can’t drive your car anymore is to pull off the track immediately, your putting yourself and others at risk by stopping on track , I know and I’m sorry I’m ranting but it’s dangerous to be honest
I bet he was thinking "maybe it'll be ok" 😂
@@akidim13 it's so he doesn't oil down the track which would stop everything for a while
Through this video, I felt like I had to do a good shift. Thank you
That shifter looks too uncomfortable, it’s way too high and restricts your range of motion when shifting. In other words asking for something to happen like this.
Yeah. It's extremely stupid. Makes the shift throw 10 feet long and kills all feedback from the shifter gates and synchros. Tried it once like a decade ago when the shifter extensions were all the rage and immediately went back to using the stock one.
I mean is noone gonna talk about how fun the circut looks? Hella technical lots of elevation changes it must be a blast!
it's Knockhill Racing Circuit in Scotland, lots of good racing there.
Yeah!
I was thinking that, had me wanting to boot up Project Cars again.
Needs a longer shifter IMO.
GEARS? where we're going we don't need... G E A R S
That was waiting to happen with a shifter setup like that. The way you bend your wrist and how far your elbow moves behind your shoulder is completely wrong. Back to the drawing board on that one unfortunately
Bro can u explain what u said in detail
@@Cel2333 Just watch the first shift and you’ll understand. Ultimately, though, it’s up to the driver how they like their shift set up
@@Cel2333 Sure. As a mechanical engineer having worked for multiple OE's and OEM's hopefully my advice isn't shrugged at, but each to their own of course. Every person's body is different, but for optimal operation, your forearm should be as close to perpendicular to the shifter as possible (thus generally parallel to your transmission tunnel). ie: your fist should be at the same height as your elbow. If not achievable, you're better off with the shifter lower rather than higher. This addresses the height of the shifter placement/configuration. For the longitudinal position of the shifter, you don't want your elbow to extend behind your mid-section. This is for multiple reasons but the primary for myself and lots of people I have worked with is it's far more comfortable to extend your elbow/arm forward rather than backward. There's just far more flexibility and thus reach with your shoulder blade (reaching forward) rather than the front of your shoulder/chest (moving your arm back). You may not notice after just a few shifts on the street but do it for hours on end or under pressure like on the track and you will make far more mistakes if you're not driving within these parameters. Ergonomics aren't really something we focus on when we modify our own cars but in the OE space it's critical.
@@smlfrd Thanks for the detailed explanation. I always enjoy learning something new. What you've said makes a lot of sense.
Not really you can see he positions his hand for a downshift when he does it, he didn’t do that for any other 4th gear shift. That was straight human error it’s like he had a brain fart and shifted into second on purpose, but by accident if you get me.
The instant shower of parts going under the car 😬
that seating position / shifter position looks very uncomfortable!
Did this in my speed 3 once really bad, cars still fine luckily never had any issues
I didn’t know what a money shift was, i was waiting for a perfectly timed gear change where he bombs past the guy in front. Then he did the thing
I braced myself for the imminent carnage I was about to hear
Damn the easiest part of racing moving the shifter can still get you, he wasn’t bad. Everyone makes mistakes
1:08 something magical happened
1:09 when you put a penny in the coin pusher after scouting out the best one😂
Dude is straight up cosplaying Speed Racer xD
Haha. I did this in my rsxs TWICE once when I bought it and once a couple months later. Got me to learn quick lol. Much stiffer springs, ride gate 4th to 5th 🤌 proper. Literally stiff ass springs and the only sketchy shift becomes 4th to 5th but just ride the gate and your good. 3rd to 2nd is also sketch but won't do too much harm at all if you do mess it up, probably stall as it'll go into 4th most likely.
I hate when money shift or crash videos are an hour long sends my anxiety not knowing when it’s coming! Haha
I also love how he keeps it centerline of the track for a good 300ft after dumping his block into the track until he remembered to get it out of the racing line lol
It hurts to watch for the first time and watch each upshift with the anticipation of a money shift.
Super glue and jb weld, back on the track in no time!
Knockhill, great track 🙌🙌
Thought it was Knockhill!
Remember guys every car can shift over 15k rpm once in there life time
Lol “once” true ig
Snowmobile disagrees.
@@hegeliandetective1034 a snowmobile isn't a *car*
@@snjert8406 are you always this obvious?
Cute Zr the one u chasing. Nice turning
That little maneuver just costed us 3rd gear
The clutch went 🔆🔴
here before this 'blows up'
edit:
hey i own a miata as my first car now now. when i wrote this comment it was just a dream. Im 15 years old now. Someone comment and remind me in another year when this 'blows up'
Mans got 5 neutrals now
You mean no engine, he still has all his gears
Lol bro
You know what really grinds my gears…
Scarier than the entirety of IT
Lovely shifter!
If it's left hand drive you can grab the shifter like that. Right hand drive I'm not sure. 🤑
for a short second your car sounded like a really big super bike
And then it sounded like pebbles
That was a very rare VTEC's VTEC sound
1:08 That was the best "money shift" I have seen in my 10 years on youtube. DAMN!
Remember guys, every engine can rev up to 20000rpm at least once
Did you start to take your harness off?
What's with loosening the belts at the end while still on track?
So that's what throwing metal down metal stairs into a pile of metal sounds like.
I love that sound
the tension until it happens while watching....unbelievable
Engine said bye-bye 👋🏼
1:05 enjoying saving all that time to see what you came for
Oh god the suspence on every shift knowing it will eventually happen
And there it goes basically his whole transmission
(and engine)
I know this video is pretty old, but 2 things caused that:
1: The shifter extension. It is too high, which causes you to have a bad grip, see point 2:
2: Your grip. You need to get into the habit of gripping the shifter specifically for each shift, in such a way that it forces the right shift each time.
For example:
From 1st to 2nd, palm against the right side of the shifter (like how you money shifted).
2nd to 3rd, palm directly behind the shifter, push straight up, it will naturally cross the gate to 3rd.
3rd to 4th, palm on top, push straight back.
4th to 5th, palm the left side of the shifter.
Reverse this for downshifts.
Many people have a habit of grabbing the shifter on top, or wrapping their fingers around it the same way for every shift, and relying on muscle movement to force the stick in the right direction. If you simply palm it correctly, you dont need to direct the shifter, as it will naturally go the intended route.
Mans did Ctrl+alt+delete on his transmission
I thought he was going for 4th at first but he was going into a corner, also the way he handled the stick makes it clear he was aiming for 2nd gear... seems someone got a bit to excited.
omg the anticipation before it happened
Making an old, bad car look like a race car from the inside. Only efficient if you dont have money.
Its so scary because its such an easy mistake to make. As soon as I saw that long high g right hander I knew thatd be the money shift. I almost did this once on a racetrack with a crowned straight-away. Fortunately I was in an Rx-7 and it didnt overrevv but damn, scary...
Look like he was thinking of second gear for the upcoming turn
Legend says it's called a "Money Shift" because the money shifts from your wallet to the mechanic's bank account
Man this sounded way too similar to the time time I smoked a full built NA D16Z6. The clattering of the valves pin balling in the cylinders is a sound like no other lol I even had some small metal chunks sitting inside the muffler tip. Have yet to make that mistake again, knock on wood. Hope I never do. It was heartbreaking.
I felt that in my soul...and by that I mean shattered
every dashlight immediately turns on
Dear god, I can smell that gearbox through the screen. I was scared I had done the same thing to my Tacoma a while back but it was nothing.
Every manual driver has missed shifts. Some just cost more than others.
Why would he start breaking with the e-brake instead of just using the regular, more powerful brakes?
A solenoid lockout that works off revs , like that enjoying beep on a new auto.
this got me anxious like im having the biggest final exam where it counts 100% of my grade
I see now why the track is could
“Knock Hill”
I’m sorry for your loss. 🪦
That V-tec kicked in strong
OUCH!!!! I felt that in my soul :-(
For all the years I had my built turbo ep3 living about 6 miles from this track, knockhill Scotland, I never tracked it. This being one of the many reasons I didn’t, can happen to anyone with just a moment’s lapse in concentration. Way more likely to happen in a Honda 😢
next one...but dual cluth transmission
Someone once told be long ago, there is a calm before the storm..
That shifter is like a kid tryna see over the dash
The immediate check engine light lol
the same happend to me on my bike… was very scary
This was extremely traumatizing to be a part of
Thats why you should never drive in the wrong direction of the car