FULLTIME RV LIVING , WILL A GAS OR DIESEL TRUCK WORK FOR YOU? // RV LIVING FULLTIME
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2020
- Today we talk about very capable gas trucks that can haul your rv just fine we look at the Chevy 2500hd with a 6.0 gas engine and the brand new 2020 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 HD with 6.6 gas engine and 6.6 duramax diesel and how much they tow.
I sold my Power stoke 6.7 diesel at almost 100k miles because I knew a big repair was coming at some point. Though I enjoyed the truck & it towed effortlessly, my 6.2 gasser does what I need & I’m not disappointed.
All that to say…. All of the big three now have very strong and capable gas engines for the three-quarter ton trucks. I agree with your assessment 100%. Great video
3:26 "This thing will do everything but whip your butt" 🤣 Good one man great review by the way . I just bought mine 2020 3500HD got the 5THwheel dumptrailer hauls like a beast
Just bought the 2500 HD 6:6 Denali gas and I love it
Thats a nice truck.. I believe this 6.6 gas engine will be a game changer for gm when it comes to gas engines
I have the 2015 3500hd 6.0. 110k miles, not a single problem! Run royal purple full synthetic. No need for a diesel. I HIGHLY recommend a blackbear tune, about 600 bucks, but it wakes this 6.0 up and way better performance!
Thanks. I'm a little late for this video. But I gotta ask. I just bought a used well-kept 2015 2500 with 84k miles and very excited. My question is what is the 'BlackBear Tune"?
@@troyc.1798 a blackbear tune is a custom computer remapping on ur stock cpu. U can Google it, it's worth it.
Black Bear is the best thing you can do.
I couldn’t believe how much it woke up mine
And two miles per gallon better towing.
Good review Mr. Bolens. Great to hear your comparison between the 6.0L and new 6.6L and ... how a diesel is not necessary unless you work/haul with it for a living and the parts and oil changes are HUGE and when things fail (i.e. injectors, injector pumps, EGR valve, humidity reactions, turbochargers, etc.) and then hoping the diesel fuel you purchase each time is clean of most particulates and free of water. Yep, I like this new 6.6L and other HD gas engines. Simple, naturally aspirated small block with industry 1st direct fuel injection, VVTiming and more. The 6L90 transmission used in the new 6.6 is actually beefed up, with stronger components coming over from the diesel transmission this time; nice 👍🏼. I’ve purchased one of these 6.6 gas units in an LT, and Love It. It’s a Keeper. For near the same price as my new LT, one could buy a new Ford F-150 hybrid XLT (I mention this because some are being marketed to think it can replace an HD), but... it cannot payload or tow or brake as well as a 3/4 ton. And if one plans to keep that hybrid for years beyond warranty (an extended warranty must be HUGE Dollars to cover their butt for that battery system or turbo), one should prepare for turbo repair/replace and then that battery system replacement/repair (did I hear $7-10K? Ouch!!!) = all that fuel savings gone out the window compared to a naturally aspirated Hulk unit like this 6.6L running on regular 87 octane gasoline. PS, I suggest buying branded gasoline you can trust.
Thank you , nice to have such a well thought out and well informed response , thank you for taking the time to comment on my video, thanks for watching!
@@RollinwiththeBolens you’re welcome 👍🏼 from Alberta 🇨🇦
Every time I look at these 2500s I just feel like getting one. Amazing review
Thank you.. good luck with your search and possibly purchase.
Thanks for watching and commenting
I had a diesel pickup for a few years. Yes it pulled well. But he is right the expense was astronomical not to mention the cost of the truck new was 10+ grand more. In 2020 I traded in my diesel for the new 6.6 gas. I pull a 38 ft fifth wheel. Pulls it no problem. Cost is way lower overall. Gas mileage is lower with gas while pulling. And I personally like my new truck well enough that I'm not likely to buy another diesel.
Thanks for watching and commenting
I have always been a fan of the rims like your truck has Instead of the new fancy rims
I wasn't a big fan of the wheels on the new high country either.. but also wasn't super big fans of mine either..lol
Hi there from the San Juan Mountains of CO....thank you very much for showing these 2 comparisons. We are getting back into travel trailering. I only have a tacoma, so we will upgrade our tow vehicle (I'll actually keep the tacoma as I use it for off roading in our great jeeping area). Still haven't really decided between the ford or gm products; I've driven both and like them both. We'll definitely do a gasser and low trim to save some $$. I did drive a gms 3500hd gasser with the work truck trim. Aside from not coming with sirius radio, I did like it a lot. Safe travels and reach out if you come back to Ouray or Silverton!
Thank you for the comment.. be careful if you consider the Ford f250 or bigger they have been know to have a bad front end (death wobble) issue I've owed chevy , ford , dodge , my personal favorite is chevy , but the dodge is a good truck also .. look into the 6.4 hemi dodge also!
Thanks for the invite definitely will reach out need to find them good off road areas out there.. be safe
@@RollinwiththeBolens Thank you very much for the recommendations!! Bleh...just as you think you've maybe found a make you prefer, up pops other things to consider. And a little bit later, up pops something else about that new favorite and you sway back to your previous preference. I had a 454 powered 3/4 ton suburban for 24 yrs (300k miles); just got rid of it a couple of months ago. So I definitely liked that gmc (but it SUCKED in the mountains; and needed a trans overhaul, muffler, and radiator...so it was time for it to go). I just got rid of a SRW Ram 3500 diesel 2 yrs ago. Blad namit...if I would have kept it, I wouldn't need to get another truck. Safe travels !!
I have a 2016 2500 silverado 6.0 double cab long bed work truck trim getting a 2020 keystone montana hitch weight is 2600 my payload is 3200 I think the 2600 pounds is dry so I'll probably be adding a little more weight to the 2600 but should I be good pulling this from time to time?? it's 42 ft
Good video but would like a demonstration of you pulling the rv
Love the new 2020 style 3/4 HD trucks!
I like it but not in love with the new design!
But still love my chevy trucks
At first I hated the 2020 style but man they look mean when one is coming towards you on the highway pulling a big fifth wheeled camper. Love em now
The thing I always say is do you tow more then the weight of a skid loader (11k ish with trailer) if yes how far and how often. If you’re using it everyday and going 30 min from home towing 11k go diesel all day, if it’s 3 times a year you haul a gooseneck across state lines I’d go gas. But if you want the power and don’t care about repair cost and know a good diesel shop then by all means do you.
I'm thinking of switching from a diesel to gas but I would really miss my exhaust brake since a lot of my towing is in the hills.
That is a con for sure, but however some gas trucks have a hill decent feature that helps a little, does it take place of a good old exhaust brake no. Thanks for watching
Where I work we have 2500 crew cabs with 6.0's also have some 2500 vans with the 6.6. There is a noticeable power difference. My truck with the 6.0 is an effin turtle pulling a bobcat s300 on a 3500 pound trailer. Takes a bit to get to 60
Yeah but you can cam it and be just fine but it’s a work truck so not really lol
Wish Chevy would offer a 4.10 or the new 10 speed with the 6.6 gasser
Yes that would be nice ..
Heard it may be option for 2021 model
It's going to happen. Eventually....
Looks like you're going to get your wish
@@amorning1976 yeah?
Just got a 2020 2500hd custom love it so far
Picking up a custom tomorrow!
@@brandon54521 nice!! It's a bad ass truck for the price of a half ton
@@viziocamaro picked it up this weekend! Absolutely love it so far!
Custom Crew Cab. Still only under 7000 miles, but trouble free so far.
@@donavonrobbins1908 nice I love my custom what color did you get
I got one 2500 HD 2022 LT trim got a 7200 pound trailer and it does fine
Good deal.. that a gas one or did you go diesel?
@@RollinwiththeBolens gas 6.6 don’t have the need for diesel
The diesel is 10k upcharge over gas on any trim level....I have gas 2020 LT 2500....nice truck but they could have done some things differently imo.....
If your towing heavy diesel is way to go...its just makes it alot easier.....if you aren't than gas is sufficient.....I dont tow only haul weight so gas is fine
I agree chevy could have done some things better for 2020.. if you are going to pull heavy all the time yes diesel is the way to go.. my point was for people to do your research on what you intend to haul how much weight you will have to haul on a regular basis.. if you don't have to have the diesel save some money on getting in a diesel and save on your maintenance bill . Ive owed both so they are both very capable options depending on your payload. Thanks for watching and commenting
I'm seriously considering a 3500 DRW with a 6.6 gas engine, with a 10 speed automatic behind it.
I have been wanting to check out a gas 3500 DRW haven't had any luck finding one anywhere near me.
I would love to have a diesel, but I got a 2500HD LT with gas instead.
I like both , they are both very capable trucks , one is just a little more friendly to the pocket then the other!
Thanks for watching and commenting
I got the same one black 2020 lt gas. I like it
I'm deciding between the 6.6 gas and 6.6 duramax as a crew cab long bed. I drive long distances but don't tow much other than a small boat.
Gas .. in my opinion if your not super heavy towing constantly in the mountains, save some money on the purchase and maintenance and get 17-18 mpg not towing with gas!
Good luck with your decision. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@RollinwiththeBolens I live in South Florida so no mountains
@@RollinwiththeBolens leaning towards that 6.6 gasser. Saw a CZcams video and someone was getting 22mpgs with it
Intake/exhaust/tune.. 470hp 530tq
Diesel emissions SUCK! Gas over diesel...PERIOD! I was surprised on our trip from Norther Michigan down to Myrtle Beach. My 2016 GMC 2500 with 6.0 had no problem pulling our 5th Wheel. Infant I passed a number of diesels in the mountains.
I would have to agree.. they really killed the diesel engine with all this emissions crap. I also have found I don't really have a problem keeping up with a diesel truck pulling our 5th wheel either. And I definitely love my cheaper maintenance bill.
Thanks for watching and commenting
if a diesel isn't making you money its not worth owning..with the price of a diesel fuel system work over your well on your way to a new engine and transmission with the 6.0. but odds are you'll kill two transmission before the 6.0 dies lol
Yeah that 6.0 has been a very good engine for gm.. thanks for watching and commenting!
I agree with you. I believe ford came out with a new gasser as well. I know milage doesnt matter that much when your pulling a trailer but what's your buddy getting without pulling anything? I have 2017 f350 diesel and always driving in the mountains and lucky to get 15 with nothing behind it. If a gas got around that I would be happy to unload the diesel. Btw my fifth wheel weighed in at 12k so it would be perfect for a gas. Thanks for the videos!
Well never done a test on the new one to find out for sure what mpg is but according to the trucks average it was like 16mpg with the 6.6
Now with my 6.0 I average 16.8 mpg with my best being 18 mpg, and towing our 5er at 13,500 lbs i get anywhere from 8 -10 mpg depending on conditions
@@RollinwiththeBolens well I'll tell if you crunch the numbers I agree with you gas is better!
I'll keep you posted.. I'm gonna do a full review of the new truck soon
Great video. I went with a 2018 GMC Sierra 6.0 because it is tried and true. Never been a fan of buying a 1st year model but I do think the 6.6l will be a proven engine as well. Bought my truck for towing the camper and couldn't be happier.
Bought a 6.6 gasser and avg. mpg is 11.6 unloaded. Could be because I deleted the muffler and sounds whicked😂
You would think the 6.6 would have more hp & tq than the 6.2 l86 motor. Not the case for some reason..
It’s more than likely tuned down for better durability over a longer period of time. That’s usually the case with the HD pickups regardless of the brand. They set them up to last longer rather than make gobs of horsepower and torque. With an aftermarket tune that 6.6 would be an absolute monster compared to the 6.2.
How much does your 5th wheel weigh that your 6.0 pulled
Our 5th wheel comes in at 13,7lbs
Loaded.. truck will haul 14.6lbs.. but I've also hauled a camper that was 19k.. but I wouldn't advise that .. it handled fine but it is definitely not something you should do on a regular basis. Hope that helps
Trying to decide, a low mileage 2017 SLT or denali 6.0 2500, or a new 6.6 gas Chevy 2500 custom or LT. They are about the same price!
Either one I believe work , they are both great trucks.. 6.0 is proven reliable, the 6.6 is a new engine we may have see the gremlins just yet. Good luck on you decision.
@@RollinwiththeBolens the cab on crew cab is a lot smaller on the previous gen with the 6.0 is that correct?
I wouldn't say it's that much smaller , you can definitely tell but it's not so much I'd let it base my decision on the purchase very much.
Did I miss the part about mpg?
No you didn't miss it.. we hadn't had the numbers yet.. the 6.6 gas best is 18.9 empty loaded 12 - 14 the 6.0 gas best 17.8 empty loaded 11 -13 ..
@@RollinwiththeBolens Thank you!
Your welcome
How do you like driving the 6.6 vs the 6.0?
I have a 16 6.0 with 4.10 gears just like your truck. I just rolled over 97k miles today. I have been getting the itch to trade in for a new 6.6 gas, but I can’t find any dealers with any in stock in my area. I specifically want the custom trim level.
Anyways, I’ve been trying to talk myself out of it. Just the added hp and torque on paper is what’s got me interested. But I’ve learned sometimes on paper and in real life are 2 different things. I’d hate to drop the money on a new 6.6 and it “feels” like it pulls only marginally better than my 6.0 vs being a decent improvement
It pulls nice.. but honestly it needs a 4:10 rear end , the difference between them is not night and day.. both will get the job done , just turned 120k on my 6.0 still going strong and pulling like a champ. Both are good trucks , but the high $$$ for the new 6.6 may want consider holding on to you current truck.
Do a blackbear tune instead, it will make a great difference!
@mathew smith. I have a 2016 with 4.10s and it pulls great for being a gas. The 6.6 does have more power but they took the 4.10 gear option away in the new 6.6 gas. In my opinion I feel ours with the 4.10s should pull as good maybe better.
Great video, you're pretty funny. How do you think the 6.6 gas would feel towing a 24ft 6000lbs jayco travel trailer?
Thank you.. I believe that would pull that camper with no effort what so ever.. our 6.0 in the 2500 HD i wouldn't even know its back there.. so hope that helped you. Thanks again for watching and commenting!
@@RollinwiththeBolens wonderful, I'm happy to hear that! Keep up the great videos!
Thanks will do my best
I’ve purchased a 2020 gmc 2500 Denali with the 6.6L gas a few months ago. I tow a 6500lbs dry 26 footer jayco travel trailer easily. No white knuckles and it’s a pleasant drive. Love my truck. That being said, I owned a 2018 f150 ecoboost. Loved the truck but felt questionable when camper was fully loaded and wind blowing you around.
Nice truck... always great to feel less on edge when hauling a rv or anything that gmc will do ylu very well... thanks for the comment
You have the 3.73 or 4.10 gears in your truck?
Both have the 4.10
And you still feel that much of a difference between the trucks towing?
Unless they changed something 3.73 is the only gear for the 6.6 gas.
@@BrokeGuyBBQ haven't towed anything personally with the 2020.. as in me driving but it does feel like it has more grunt from the passenger side..
@@BrokeGuyBBQ this truck says it has a 4.10.. without getting down and looking for the tag on the axl .. im gonna assume it is a 4.10 as it says that on the sales spec sheet
Lol , I don’t think any back yard mechanics are fixing the 6.6 gas or diesel . I have owned both gas and diesel and the diesel absolutely blows the gas out of the water for towing. Maintenance isn’t bad if you do it yourself but it is definitely more expensive. My big hold up with the new 6.6 gas was the front it’s ugly but that doesn’t really matter I guess but a first year gm engine no thanks. With the COVID thing the dealers are trying to make these like they are in demand , any other year thousands of them would rusting away on the lot. I wasn’t getting into the supply and demand thing for a chev truck.
This is what I'm telling people. Unless you tow alot or haul alot a diesel expecialy with the emissions stuff on new diesels it isn't worth it. There having so many issues with the emissions stuff it's killing the engines and making it very ex0ensive to repair. Plus to only be able to get 2 or 3 mpg over gas the cost to run diesel isn't worth it. I will also say this to even though the truck I just bought is a 16 silverado with the 6.0 gas engine I had a 06 gmc duramax the 6.0 I think honestly pulls better than the diesel did. It's alos alot more comfortable.
People do truly underestimate the gas trucks.. thanks for watching and commenting!
Probably half to use premium gas in the 6.6
Nope calls for 87 octane!
@@RollinwiththeBolens cool thanks
It's a wash performance wise...The 6.0 has 4.10 rear end and the 6.6 a 3.73...GM hobbled that new 6.6 with the 3.73 rear end...6.0 with a 4.10 will do everything that new 6.6 with a 3.73 will do. Might have been a different story had the 6.6 had a 4.10 or a 10 speed transmission but that's not the case...another dumb move by GM. Personally I'll take the 6.0 with the 4.10 anyday over the 6.6 with a 3.73
This is just not true my friend. I have logged over 1milliin miles in 6.0 trucks. Currently still have 2 an 06 with 356k miles 4.10 rear and also a 2016 with roughly 150k miles also a 4.10 rear end.
I have purchased now 2 6.6 trucks. A 21 gmc and a 22 chev.
The power difference is night and day when towing 10k-15k pounds. I tow hay. A lot of hay. This information is not heresy, this is real world usage of both engines. By no stretch of the imagination can the 4.10 rear make up the difference in horsepower and torque in the 6.6.
I absolutely love the 6.0 by the way and consider it probably one of the most reliable engines gm has ever produced.
@@wesleydean4228 I have a construction company. I have bought Vortec 6.0 V8 trucks with the 4.10 by the Dozen since 2004...I have bought two Silverado's with the new 6.6 Gas V8 with the 3.73 rear end and I won't buy another. The only area that the 6.6 is better in is fuel economy. The difference in towing isn't much different at all. The Vortec 6.0 Trucks will pull just as hard as the 6.6 gas V8. And you can attribute that to them having a 4.10 rear axle ratio Vs the 3.73 in the 6.6.
@@thedesertdwellerfromutah4354 what weights are you pulling daily? Where the 6.6 does much better for me is the really heavy weights. Gooseneck over 15k.
@@wesleydean4228 I usually pull gooseneck trailers with a Backhoe on board. I have a septic system cleaning and installation business. I use HD GM trucks exclusively.
Or learn how to work on your own diesel
Every time I work on my duramax my wife bitches about me spending 😒 too much time on my truck