There is a mod called "The Corners" so far it has 3 liminal spaces, the person that made it has very awesome music that fit's it very well, relaxing, like a dream. 100% recommended
@@GB-fv7uy It's actually completely reasonable for our hunter gather brains to be uneasy about being alone, we are social animals not le heckin silent stoic lone wolf sigma males
@Nobody a lot of those reddit submissions are amateurish but some of the suburban ones can be kind of comfy too. not sure if they're exactly pure liminal spaces tho but somehow they all get lumped in the subreddits
I don't understand this contrarian left wing stance. What does this have to do with the fall of the west? Clearly you've been paying attention or you wouldn't blurt it out like a spaz?
@@mxkinist eh fnaf has jumpscares yes but the original was a gem of an indy horror game due to its atmospheric horror and gameplay. The terror is almost 100% from atmosphere and your mind creating the fear. Barely anything is happening actively. It's all sounds and still images. The jumpscares essentially take advantage of this. The jumpscares are also not just happening because they are directly related to whether you failed or not which is an important distinction. Also as an avid horror movie and game fan the "jumpscare" trope has been around years and years before fnaf was ever a thing. Horror has been degrading because of its reliance on jumpscares and ignoring subtle build up and atmosphere. Or just going full body horror because it can. True horror needs just enough to get your mind to do the work. This is why old shows wouldn't flash the monsters on screen 10m into the movie because it ruins the effect. They use atmosphere to build up to jumpscares now specifically. Not realizing that instead of baiting jumpscares to then drop the tone until next jumpscare you keep that tone going consistently. it will be 100x more effective at causing terror. It's the generation of inpatients they must get to the jumpscare because they aren't patient enough for a slow burn. This why writing is degrading aswell why have nuance and real dialog when you can just have them blurt out inhumenly what you want the viewer to know. It's the generations of instant gratification. This is why all forms of art are slowly getting worse. They are losing sublety/nuance in all forms.
backrooms started out more as a “”physiological horror”” but then when it gained traction, it devolved into this incoherent mess where everyone tries to one up each other. it was never scary imo, but it was a neat novel concept that started going downhill as soon as monsters (or entities as the kids call) and levels introduced
The Backrooms was cool idea until they decided to turn it into Diet SCP. There was no need to build "lore". It was supposed to be an absurd dimension that had no meaning to us and have it be only described in allegory. In fact I'd argue it was supposed to be a reverse Allegory of the Cave. Peering beyond the veil yields nothing. Adding muh levelrinos and the enti-chuds and the big corpos in the picture removes all that made it special
Well it's not meaningless, it's just the old idea of the world as a stage, as an illusory space put on to trap you inside, where the most real thing in the world is your soul. It's a kind of gnostic prison.
@@ammagon4519 Except the bathrooms was always worse than the cube because the cube embraced this weird cosmic horror existential place beyond our reality while the backrooms is literally an abandoned office building you walk around until you die or find a door to walk through where you can go that was weird and write about it on 4 Chan.
Basically every horror property that's come out these days seems to be infiltrated by children and young teenagers who, for some reason, feel the need to add tons upon tons of lore completely ruining the fear of the unknown. It happened to slender man, FNAF, SCP, and now the backrooms.
@@energeticyellow1637 I agree. These community created projects need editors and or someone to maintain the world and lore so they don't drown in bullshit.
There have come some good media out of original posts. SCP is destroyed now, but it was direct inspiration for Lobotomy Corporation which is a fantastic game. But it is annoying, people can't grasp the concept, that more is sometimes less, way less. Especially with ideas that are supposed to be vague and mysterious, the more you try to explain and fill in the puzzle pieces the less scary it becomes.
I'll never understand what compelled people to add creatures, organizations, special magic drinks, and multiple "levels" to this idea. I thought the horror aspect came from the feeling of being alone and trapped in something endless and claustrophobic. I know one of the posts in the original 4chan threads involved hearing sounds from an unknown creature but I'm pretty sure that was never mentioned in the original reposts that went viral. I especially don't get the levels that look like they're in the outdoors and have plenty of flora and sometimes even fauna. At that point how is that shit the backROOMS?
Good news: this is the single most common take about the backrooms on the entire internet these days As for why it happened, people wanted to give their mediocre creative writing a boost by tying it to something popular, and creators indulged it for views. That's it.
@@TrappedInFloor no this video is a psychological thriller short film about a contrarian faux-disaffected frogposter stuck in 2016 fighting a shizo war against le heckin zoomers. I'm just giving the real reason.
They don't even use the term "liminal space" correctly. It's supposed to refer to a transitive location where you only are for a short span of time. I think we all have memories of an empty parking slot or the office of a medic. But these aren't even supposed to be scary, maybe just uncanny at most, because of their minimalistic aesthetic due to a feeling of emptiness.
Nyehehehe oh my god is that the faglord entity from backrooms level 69-Igrewupwithoutafather? I better give him the right color crayon or I'll have my reddit comment history reviewed!
3:23 I knew all you Aussies could stop faking, and start talking normally at any given moment this entire time. That's the real conspiracy. The game is up, but you guys had a good run though.
@@ignotumperignotius630 exactly he's doing an American accent at that time lol. the joke is that all Aussies actually sound American but are just pretending to have their real accent as a prank
The most irritating part of this trend to me is the pretentious paragraphs you can find on the subject that imply that this is some sort of brand new phenomenon unique to their generation, as if people haven't been getting spooked by abandoned amusement parks and hospitals before their parents were even born. Great video
I love how as soon as the backrooms gained traction and gained mainstream popularity it just became a shitty SCP wannabe. Then again, SCP kinda fell off after it became more than just a few /x/ posts... Oh God, the Tumblr satellite.
There's a difference between liminal spaces and the liminal horror genre that's a little conflated here. Super Eyepatch Wolf has a decent video talking about the evolution of one into the other and their parallel development
Boomer horror: Unspeakable eldritch terrors, serial killers and alien invaders Zoomer horror: Grandma's home without furniture, stock VHS filters and landlords
@@agreatmanlookingtotheright Boomer horror: their deepest and darkest social, political and cultural fears manifested in an almost satirical manner that, while opening room for enjoyment and imagination, carry metaphorical reflections behind them that criticize societal views towards important topics (I.E. aliens relating to xenophobia, Godzilla being the personification of the US nuking Japan and the fear of nuclear war, serial killers being the direct consequence of negligence and lack of care rooted deep within our homes and towns) Zoomer horror: I am unprepared to face the fact that I am growing up because my parents neglected me the teachings that I needed about life so I need to manifest it in shitty pretentious nostalgia bait corrupting the childhood memories of a mind that refuses to let go of the past EDIT: I had enough giving attention to you zoomies, stay busy with your scary wallpapers and inability to stop being kids
@@EmilyKimMartin lol imagine defending baby boomers, the worst generation. Baby boomers never had to suffer anything. They grew up in the 1950s, and were young adults in the 60's and 70's, the easiest time to be alive in the entirety of human history (so long as you weren't black or poor). The only boomers who actually fought in Vietnam were those who were too poor to avoid conscription. Most boomers didn't go. Boomers project all of their problems (over indulgence, easy manipulated, selfish, self centred, spoiled, narcistic, self obsessed, etc) on the younger generations. Don't defend the worst generation in human history, the generation that destroyed the future because they were so narcissist and impatient that they didn't even consider that other people needed a future. Of course there are a few good boomers, that is too say most of the guys who fought in Vietnam because they actually had to suffer through something, and there are people like Jane Goodall who are very selfless in general. But overall boomers are the Me Me Me generation, and they think everyone else can be damned. Boomers are the masters of Freudian projection, they are unable to face their own flaws in the same way the generations before and after them could and still can. We can even see this as they HATE all younger people. Usually most generations will have a small level of distain towards the one that comes directly after them, but usually its only a little. Whereas boomer's extreme narcissism and childishness causes them to have literally destroyed every other future generation's ability to even survive all for their own gain.
@@EmilyKimMartin Gen Z suffering from quarter life crisis stems from this refusal to grow up too. But it's not totally unwarranted considering the decline. Still a pathetic cope thoughever.
God, I hate the SCP foundation. 95% of it ranges from weird concepts that are vaguely unsettling/upsetting to absolute trash. And the 5% of it that's good gets bogged down by virtue of it being in an inane shared universe with the other crap
Nah SCP up until recently has been consistently original and refreshing but there's a growing trend where it seems like every single author has to make an unstoppable and generic world ender that's just months away from tearing a hole into the omniverse or some shit. Some of the world enders are pretty decent but the rest are all dogshit.
KanePixels has done a great job with this series on the backrooms so far. Interesting and occasionally creepy. He takes the basic idea and doesn't do anything overly wacky with it and instead builds an interesting narrative. I watched some of those 'backrooms levels explained' videos though and they were some of the stupidest, batshit crazy, zoomer humour nonsense you'll find. Like they were a collection of people's first fanfic drafts.
Modern classics: Hereditary Pontypool House that jack built Martyrs Ginger snaps Serbian film I saw the devil The platform Hush Inside Train to bussan It follows The saddness Kill list Manhunt Bloodborne
@@EmilyKimMartin To be fair, Gen Z I at most early 20s right? Probably gonna be a few years before you see mainstream directors/film makers from that generations.
Old horror: realistic primal fears Horror now: "AHHH MY PARENTS WERE LAZY AND GAVE ME ACCESS, TO THE INTERNET WAY TOO EARLY SO NOW I AM SCARED OF WALLPAPER."
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 they all flipped their shit over a doorknob that made you sexually harass it and it's been downhill from there. Now there's "Muh capatalism bad" SCPs (that more resemble Communist practices but sure whatever), they are trying to distance themselves from their 4chan origins, and the Foundation is totally super inclusive guys.
Wow, what a spine-tingling, bone-chilling, jumpscare-free, genre-defining, character development driven wallpaper analysis. Another gem from this channel.
Backrooms is at its best when not bogged down by quirky items, generic monsters, and information. The more you study it, the more you understand, the more you don’t fear it.
Kids will be kids. Once you realize that a HUGE portion of the internet is actual literal children, things start to make a lot more sense. They have more free time than adults to constantly sit around online posting all day, and thus are overrepresented in many spaces. Some of the brighter ones might come up with something vaguely passable that gains traction amongst fellow kids, and eventually gullible adults will be convinced too upon seeing the high like or share count - not realizing that 10,000 of those likes are from kids on their ipads. This is the first time in human history in which literal children can sometimes birth ideas or thoughts that gain traction amongst adults due to being anonymous online.
The problem is that the point of liminal spaces is that they are featureless *empty.* Making scads of lore for them means that they are no longer empty; they're filled with lore. Putting a monster in there makes the danger a singular point, the monster, rather than the space itself. Having "levels" makes it *more* navigable, not less, because you can now be in one part of the space rather than lost in anywhere. The way to play into it in a way that actually enhances it it so expand the scope of the bland nothing that defines it. Make it non-Euclidean to make it easier to get lost. Make it outside of time as well as out of bounds. Maybe play into how it's both *just* out bounds, as well as infinitely far. You can faintly hear voices of crowds somewhere nearby, but as you try to get closer the sound is coming from further away... and the crowd noise doesn't sound like it's in [your language] half the time. Backrooms are a "less is more" concept, but the fanfic writers who latch onto these fads have no concept of less is more.
The monsters ruined it because, at least for me, the "horror" of the backrooms was psychological. Everyone would eventually go insane from the lack of stimulation, maybe even hallucinate things. Assuming nothing magically kept you alive, you'd just slowly die from lack of food/water as you slowly go insane unable to ever know what happened to you.
Honestly the scariest thing about the backrooms was the dread that you were alone untill you die but then they added things to it and it lost its scare factor and with scp the infographic show got to it and made a channel for scp things last thing I saw from that channel was the doomslayer vs scp 096 so in general if a "horror" thing gets popular with kids it's doomed
I bet if i told you that anyone should be able to own a gun, you would scream murderer, you seem to be part of the weak minded few after all, classifying an entire generation under one banner.
I'm not part of Gen Z, but for years I've had a recurring dream where I am trapped inside an endless complex of labyrinthian hallways and offices and I'm desperately trying to get outside. It's claustrophobic and oppressing, which is part of why liminal spaces like the backrooms are so unsettling.
This goes with the abandoned building exploration videos as well. There's some fascination about it because it might tell a story that fills your imagination because there's something unsettling about it.
@@kingj9664 I don't enjoy Irish manchildren talking about Asian cartoons, I'd much rather listen to something productive, or play a video game, or you know, do ANYTHING else with my time.
My nightmares as a kid were literally the "backrooms". Walking through the understructure of a baseball stadium with constant concrete stairs as a kid, surrounded by faceless adults. Now it feels novel and I'm not afraid of it, so I just ignore any backrooms content that seems stupid.
Liminal spaces don't really scare me. Just reminds me of Garry's Mod, and screwing around with thousands of enemies while I mow them all down with weapons from Quake 2.
I never thought of the backrooms as “scary” or a “psychological horror” concept, but one of much more nostalgia than anything else. I remember myself as a young child in a similar office space with similar wallpaper, unable to pin down and confirm such a memory. I thought the backrooms were a cool concept, but with the ‘levels’ and ‘monsters’ it quickly lost that air of nostalgia and familiarity.
I honestly think adding "lore" to the original post ruined its effect. It did have a slightly unsettling notion to it because of "liminal space" but now that picture is the backrooms a whole thing no just a generic hallway that could be anywhere that you sort of recognised from the recess of your memory. It's just the back rooms.
Liminal spaces are unsettling depending on the situation since walking in a forest alone is completely fine since you don't expect anyone but abandoned places are a little bit so since you're usually around other people in similar buildings and you're also not used to homeless hunting
This is the same shit that happened with Trevor Henderson, he makes such good art where he places monsters into places where you would expect them to be (maybe a junkyard at midnight) and kids grappled onto his art, not even choosing to popularize his GOOD and SCARY monsters, instead choosing some shitty cartoon cat. Really sad to see because my sister even told me that she had seen it.
There was a book series i read years ago that had a concept like the backrooms in it, it was called otherland by tad williams and was about a group of people who get trapped in a series of digital worlds owned by a group of billionaires who plan to use those digital worlds to cheat death by transferring their consciousness into them, one of those worlds was a building that seemingly went on forever, just room after room after hallway with tribes of people living in it and migrating through it, it was a pretty good book series
Speaking as a gen z kid (early 2000s, don't fret), I think the purpose of the backrooms was to shine a light on how a lot of us grew up. We had tech, obviously, but the transition between analog and digital tech was a weird one. I always think of being a very small child when I would wake up after falling asleep to SpongeBob or something, and just the uncanniness of noone being there and the room being vaguely lit by a CRT tele that I'm sure many others experienced is such an indescribable feeling. Not one of dread necessarily, but just super vivid and unnerving. I think it's kinda cool that children have a platform to express their feelings now, cause they're a lot more imaginative than a lot of the rest of us. There's definitely something to be said about the consumerism of it all, but we shouldn't let children ruin the novelty of something that we enjoy.
@Nobody because the backrooms are being used as a way to hate on kids my age and I just wanted to relay my experience to try to dissapate it as much as possible, considering how pointless generational pissing matches are. Go ahead and use it as a copypasta, maybe you'll find some kids that can relate :)
2020 Liminal Archives lore was the best one. it had an intruiging amount of mystery while still having the "levels" shit except it actually makes sense and served to make the world actually scary by exploring different fears and unsettling environments instead of just "BE SURE TO BRING ULTRA ALMOND DRINK FOR THE BOS FITE OF LEVLE @#$(#Q$$!!! HE HAS TEH EPIC SQUID ATTACK"
A show called severance released last year and it uses the concept of backrooms not to necessarily be scary, but to set the atmosphere. It came out during the prime of the backroom memes, but I guess people were more interessted in quirky horror characters and game theories about the backrooms
I thought it was unique for awhile, but when I heard people calling Tony Hwak Pro Skater 'liminal' that shit sounded too stupid man. There's no atmosphere in being a severed hand riding a skateboard while goldfinger blasting in the background.
The Backroomsis such a hit and miss kind of thing. On one hand its oversaturated and dragged into absurdity by a lot of people trying to make their own ideas into a canon, but on the other hand there is some genuinly talented creators out there using the basic concept and making something unique from it while still respecting the idea of it not being horror but meant to be unpleasant and uncomfortable.
Kane Pixel's series is actually really good (and is easily one of the best youtube series I have seen a while) and definitely deserves it's recognition. He respects the original concept, while at the sametime building on it. The cool part about his series is it's built around mystery, and not every detail is throughly explained, which leaves room for speculation. Not only does it have excellent animation quality (espically considering he did most of it in Blender), the directing and voice acting feels natural, complete with an original soundtrack (which he actually composes himself) that does a fantastic job of setting the tone. Also his series is completely original and is not connected to the cesspool that is the wiki (He actually didn't even know about the wiki when he made the first found footage.) As ridiculous as the concept of the backrooms is, Kane's series proves that a concept like that can be done really well when you take the original idea and tie a good narrative to it. Highly recommend checking it out.
The problem with this generation is the fact that EVERYTHING needs to be known Mystery and clues are unacceptable for the goldfish attention span of this new generation.
@@tony_5156 Couldnt agree more, the mystery is what makes the story interesting and keeps the audience engaged in it.That is the main reasons why I like Kane's series so much and I wish we'll saw more cryptic/mystery focused stories like it these days. It gives you the opportunity to play as the detective and theorize about certain details and how they might contribute to the overall plot.
This trend is another in a line that I can't quite explain except by giving an example. It's like when people say "H.R. Geiger is my favourite artist" And you think 'Is he, or have you just heard of him?'
“Man open areas are so spooky and horrific. What scares you?” Working as hard as I can my whole life and my kids looking back at me not with pride but with pity.
One of the worst parts of the backrooms is the "levels." I remember reading a comment talking about the scariest levels being 200-999. What was scary to me about the backrooms was endlessly wandering alone slowly dying of starvation and thirst. The monster part felt like a fear of the unknown thing but that's it. Now there's levels that have food and a very valuable resource is almond water. It's a dead meme.
I remember the original posts , for a few weeks it was all you see. I stopped staying that much online and suddenly a few years later i see all this and I'm like wtf how did it take off like this. It s crazy how many cultural things that are mainstream now were some shitty board specific post at one time. Like it s wierd seeing a boomer talk about some crazy conspiracy you saw either on /x/ or /pol/ back in 2016 ( think of that whole adrenochrome thing, think that s when it really took off)
Adrenochrome (and most Q) conspiracy theories did not originate on /pol/ or with the Q movement. They took a bunch of older, disconnected conspiracy theories and tied them into a messianic Trump narrative.
1:34 Kane's lore has no levels btw Also the backrooms with levels pretty much took away what made the backrooms the backrooms, since the whole point of the backrooms is that you're in a mysterious space of randomly segmented rooms with no way out, all by yourself And while the original 4chan post did mention something might be in the rooms with you, the difference is that the creature is completely mysterious and ambiguous
society has to be more careful with them spaces, one time i went to a supermarket and i was the only one there, i got lost until a guy told me that they were closing the store, i paid for my groceries and leave the place, imagine if you get lost there, no one will see you again ever, those supermarkets are really something scary with that music they play and the idles they have.
I find liminal spaces more aesthetic and appealing rather than creepy because they have a dream-like quality.
100%
There is a mod called "The Corners" so far it has 3 liminal spaces, the person that made it has very awesome music that fit's it very well, relaxing, like a dream.
100% recommended
@@GB-fv7uy It's actually completely reasonable for our hunter gather brains to be uneasy about being alone, we are social animals not le heckin silent stoic lone wolf sigma males
@Nobody a lot of those reddit submissions are amateurish but some of the suburban ones can be kind of comfy too. not sure if they're exactly pure liminal spaces tho but somehow they all get lumped in the subreddits
It's like walking around the park early in the morning, or going for a hike off trail.
The parody of those midwit, dime-a-dozen video essays at the end was too real.
muhmuh, i am so self aware i can make fun of college kids making cookie cutter videos, muh muh, west has fallen
@@mavzikk Jew.
@@mavzikk 😂
I don't understand this contrarian left wing stance. What does this have to do with the fall of the west? Clearly you've been paying attention or you wouldn't blurt it out like a spaz?
"white man has been here"
"how can you tell?"
"VIDEO ESSAY"
Every modern horror project just gets saturated into a child friendly jumpscare shitshow it’s literally happening to everything
I'd really like to go back to the sadistic and eldritch style of Lovecraftian horror instead of "ooh the door moved that's so spooky".
Marketable horror for children.
fnaf and its consequences have been a disaster for the horror race
@@mxkinist eh fnaf has jumpscares yes but the original was a gem of an indy horror game due to its atmospheric horror and gameplay. The terror is almost 100% from atmosphere and your mind creating the fear. Barely anything is happening actively. It's all sounds and still images. The jumpscares essentially take advantage of this. The jumpscares are also not just happening because they are directly related to whether you failed or not which is an important distinction.
Also as an avid horror movie and game fan the "jumpscare" trope has been around years and years before fnaf was ever a thing. Horror has been degrading because of its reliance on jumpscares and ignoring subtle build up and atmosphere. Or just going full body horror because it can. True horror needs just enough to get your mind to do the work. This is why old shows wouldn't flash the monsters on screen 10m into the movie because it ruins the effect. They use atmosphere to build up to jumpscares now specifically. Not realizing that instead of baiting jumpscares to then drop the tone until next jumpscare you keep that tone going consistently. it will be 100x more effective at causing terror.
It's the generation of inpatients they must get to the jumpscare because they aren't patient enough for a slow burn.
This why writing is degrading aswell why have nuance and real dialog when you can just have them blurt out inhumenly what you want the viewer to know.
It's the generations of instant gratification.
This is why all forms of art are slowly getting worse. They are losing sublety/nuance in all forms.
The back rooms has become the ending part of the Russian sleep experiment when the guy is like “I have seen god” and does the cheesy lame monologue.
The bone chilling, slow burning, genre defining wallpapers
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yikes! this is even scarier than biblically accurate angels and unwalkable cities!
Unwalkable cities are fine just let the city folk suffer their fate
@@ignotumperignotius630 amen to that
@@ignotumperignotius630 Just one more lane dawg
@@cloudy1723 Enjoy stepping in heroin needles and shit.
you must never have had the luxury of living in america lmao
When Freddy Fazbear caught you lacking at the poppy playtime level when you were hitting a W clip in warzone while your Twitch chat was saying poggers
OMFG I KNOW THIS IRONIC BUT STOP DAMNIT WE DONT EVEN NEED TO BRING THAT SHIT UPAHH
_"I must rest now. The reading has made me weary."_
BRUH FR FR BLUD WAS COOKIN ON THAT ONE ON GOD
@@ElectricBarrier Reading that made me wanna headbutt a belt sander.
@@Kyrnyx Writing it made me wanna do the same, honestly.
backrooms started out more as a “”physiological horror”” but then when it gained traction, it devolved into this incoherent mess where everyone tries to one up each other.
it was never scary imo, but it was a neat novel concept that started going downhill as soon as monsters (or entities as the kids call) and levels introduced
love a good physiological horror
So basically it went downhill from the original post?
It really doesn't matter. This is just a joke video, I highly doubt shredded nerd actually cares that much about any of this.
We need safer levels like the one with Blanche so Explorers don't have to run for their lives 24/7. They deserve some rest.
It’s literally scp
The Backrooms was cool idea until they decided to turn it into Diet SCP. There was no need to build "lore". It was supposed to be an absurd dimension that had no meaning to us and have it be only described in allegory. In fact I'd argue it was supposed to be a reverse Allegory of the Cave. Peering beyond the veil yields nothing. Adding muh levelrinos and the enti-chuds and the big corpos in the picture removes all that made it special
Well it's not meaningless, it's just the old idea of the world as a stage, as an illusory space put on to trap you inside, where the most real thing in the world is your soul. It's a kind of gnostic prison.
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Exactly, I think the concept of it is just like the movie "Cube", the purpose of it is just to exist, it has no purpose and is just an empty room.
There's lore? Is this what being extremely online is? Having backrooms ruined by "lore"?
@@ammagon4519 Except the bathrooms was always worse than the cube because the cube embraced this weird cosmic horror existential place beyond our reality while the backrooms is literally an abandoned office building you walk around until you die or find a door to walk through where you can go that was weird and write about it on 4 Chan.
Backroom is the scariest because it shows how the internet can miss the entire point of it and destroy something special
You have the basic bitches on Reddit to think for killing the idea with lore and monsters.
Basically every horror property that's come out these days seems to be infiltrated by children and young teenagers who, for some reason, feel the need to add tons upon tons of lore completely ruining the fear of the unknown. It happened to slender man, FNAF, SCP, and now the backrooms.
@@energeticyellow1637 I agree. These community created projects need editors and or someone to maintain the world and lore so they don't drown in bullshit.
There have come some good media out of original posts. SCP is destroyed now, but it was direct inspiration for Lobotomy Corporation which is a fantastic game. But it is annoying, people can't grasp the concept, that more is sometimes less, way less. Especially with ideas that are supposed to be vague and mysterious, the more you try to explain and fill in the puzzle pieces the less scary it becomes.
@@ThomasNonamescp is still good
Luckily Gen Z will never own a home so they wont have to worry about wallpaper and four walls.
It's not the wallpaper that does it for me... It's the moist carpet.
Poor electrical maintenance 😱❗️❗️
Hey everyone it’s moist carpet
zoomers are terrified of wallpaper, carpet, and architecture that isn't white, gray, or black.
@@flying_gorilla8069accurate description of his personality tbh
Zoomie here. My generation has disappointed me and the world frfr no cap
a fr fr moment ? I think this is an an ong moment
@@Kampfender_Krieger I had my grasses off
ong fellow zoomie
@@mhmtakeyatime9000 frfr
I'm the same age as you guys. Yet I have no idea what you're even trying to say.
I'll never understand what compelled people to add creatures, organizations, special magic drinks, and multiple "levels" to this idea. I thought the horror aspect came from the feeling of being alone and trapped in something endless and claustrophobic. I know one of the posts in the original 4chan threads involved hearing sounds from an unknown creature but I'm pretty sure that was never mentioned in the original reposts that went viral.
I especially don't get the levels that look like they're in the outdoors and have plenty of flora and sometimes even fauna. At that point how is that shit the backROOMS?
Good news: this is the single most common take about the backrooms on the entire internet these days
As for why it happened, people wanted to give their mediocre creative writing a boost by tying it to something popular, and creators indulged it for views. That's it.
@@quixotes4478 That cycle is what this video is about.
@@TrappedInFloor no this video is a psychological thriller short film about a contrarian faux-disaffected frogposter stuck in 2016 fighting a shizo war against le heckin zoomers.
I'm just giving the real reason.
@@quixotes4478 I think you're taking zoomer shit-flinging too seriously.
@@quixotes4478 cope
I can't believe the line "no clip out of the world" didn't bring mockery. The most 2015 zoomer writing
biblically accurate angels
A critique
mature anime
so bad it's good
It’s a good x game but not a good y game
video essays
They don't even use the term "liminal space" correctly. It's supposed to refer to a transitive location where you only are for a short span of time. I think we all have memories of an empty parking slot or the office of a medic. But these aren't even supposed to be scary, maybe just uncanny at most, because of their minimalistic aesthetic due to a feeling of emptiness.
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@@drstrangelove307 lol
"Liminal space" is just a buzzword people use nowadays because it sounds smart to morons. Doorways are liminal spaces. Empty rooms aren't.
Liminality is a term used for doorways. A more correct term would be "Uncanny envirosurrealism", or something of the sort, frankly.
Man, this is scarier than the time I was in the backrooms! [family guy cut-away plays]
Nyehehehe oh my god is that the faglord entity from backrooms level 69-Igrewupwithoutafather? I better give him the right color crayon or I'll have my reddit comment history reviewed!
Take my like good Sir, that was funny as hell.
wow!!!
3:23 I knew all you Aussies could stop faking, and start talking normally at any given moment this entire time. That's the real conspiracy. The game is up, but you guys had a good run though.
He sounds American though????
@@ignotumperignotius630 exactly he's doing an American accent at that time lol. the joke is that all Aussies actually sound American but are just pretending to have their real accent as a prank
The most irritating part of this trend to me is the pretentious paragraphs you can find on the subject that imply that this is some sort of brand new phenomenon unique to their generation, as if people haven't been getting spooked by abandoned amusement parks and hospitals before their parents were even born.
Great video
I love how as soon as the backrooms gained traction and gained mainstream popularity it just became a shitty SCP wannabe. Then again, SCP kinda fell off after it became more than just a few /x/ posts... Oh God, the Tumblr satellite.
I never can understand how people find them creepy. They look comfy as hell
I'm a zoomer by the way
It’s because they don’t have a set conversation in there head so they are unable to deal with being in a space like that
There's a difference between liminal spaces and the liminal horror genre that's a little conflated here. Super Eyepatch Wolf has a decent video talking about the evolution of one into the other and their parallel development
Exactly bro
Btw I am also genZ
I agree, they're aesthetic asf because they have a dream-like quality for me. Like spaces that exist between reality
Boomer horror: Unspeakable eldritch terrors, serial killers and alien invaders
Zoomer horror: Grandma's home without furniture, stock VHS filters and landlords
Boomer horror: hehe grey man
Zoomer horror: hehe yellow room
@@agreatmanlookingtotheright Boomer horror: their deepest and darkest social, political and cultural fears manifested in an almost satirical manner that, while opening room for enjoyment and imagination, carry metaphorical reflections behind them that criticize societal views towards important topics (I.E. aliens relating to xenophobia, Godzilla being the personification of the US nuking Japan and the fear of nuclear war, serial killers being the direct consequence of negligence and lack of care rooted deep within our homes and towns)
Zoomer horror: I am unprepared to face the fact that I am growing up because my parents neglected me the teachings that I needed about life so I need to manifest it in shitty pretentious nostalgia bait corrupting the childhood memories of a mind that refuses to let go of the past
EDIT: I had enough giving attention to you zoomies, stay busy with your scary wallpapers and inability to stop being kids
@@EmilyKimMartin what
@@EmilyKimMartin lol imagine defending baby boomers, the worst generation. Baby boomers never had to suffer anything. They grew up in the 1950s, and were young adults in the 60's and 70's, the easiest time to be alive in the entirety of human history (so long as you weren't black or poor). The only boomers who actually fought in Vietnam were those who were too poor to avoid conscription. Most boomers didn't go. Boomers project all of their problems (over indulgence, easy manipulated, selfish, self centred, spoiled, narcistic, self obsessed, etc) on the younger generations. Don't defend the worst generation in human history, the generation that destroyed the future because they were so narcissist and impatient that they didn't even consider that other people needed a future. Of course there are a few good boomers, that is too say most of the guys who fought in Vietnam because they actually had to suffer through something, and there are people like Jane Goodall who are very selfless in general. But overall boomers are the Me Me Me generation, and they think everyone else can be damned. Boomers are the masters of Freudian projection, they are unable to face their own flaws in the same way the generations before and after them could and still can. We can even see this as they HATE all younger people. Usually most generations will have a small level of distain towards the one that comes directly after them, but usually its only a little. Whereas boomer's extreme narcissism and childishness causes them to have literally destroyed every other future generation's ability to even survive all for their own gain.
@@EmilyKimMartin Gen Z suffering from quarter life crisis stems from this refusal to grow up too. But it's not totally unwarranted considering the decline. Still a pathetic cope thoughever.
I heard that The Backrooms™ are where Fingerboys™ are grown and harvested.
That's sound goofy as hell, this can't be real.
>BUT MUH PSYCHOLOGICAL HORRORINOESSSSS
God, I hate the SCP foundation. 95% of it ranges from weird concepts that are vaguely unsettling/upsetting to absolute trash. And the 5% of it that's good gets bogged down by virtue of it being in an inane shared universe with the other crap
Nah SCP up until recently has been consistently original and refreshing but there's a growing trend where it seems like every single author has to make an unstoppable and generic world ender that's just months away from tearing a hole into the omniverse or some shit. Some of the world enders are pretty decent but the rest are all dogshit.
i wouldnt say I hate it, I quite like soem things form it, I hwoever dont interact with its community in any way.
KanePixels has done a great job with this series on the backrooms so far. Interesting and occasionally creepy.
He takes the basic idea and doesn't do anything overly wacky with it and instead builds an interesting narrative.
I watched some of those 'backrooms levels explained' videos though and they were some of the stupidest, batshit crazy, zoomer humour nonsense you'll find. Like they were a collection of people's first fanfic drafts.
Yeah I still think Kane's Backrooms are pretty cool
@@alfalldoot6715 he put in work wich makes a big difference
Zzzzzzzz 😴
"spine tingling bone chilling"
A24 slow burn
Horror classics:
Halloween
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Resident Evil
Silent Hill
Dracula
Frankenstein
Wallpaper
You missed Shitty VHS Tape and Glitchy Video
Modern classics:
Hereditary
Pontypool
House that jack built
Martyrs
Ginger snaps
Serbian film
I saw the devil
The platform
Hush
Inside
Train to bussan
It follows
The saddness
Kill list
Manhunt
Bloodborne
@@JuleZz__z All made by Gen X and Gen Y!
@@EmilyKimMartin
To be fair, Gen Z I at most early 20s right? Probably gonna be a few years before you see mainstream directors/film makers from that generations.
This is the most bone chillingly scary slow-burn soyfest.
THE HECKIN LIMINAL SPACERINO THAT BREAKS PEOPLE (windows 95 3d maze screensaver)
entity chilling, level defining, backrooms wrenching, slow burn, lore filled, atmospheric gem
BACKROOMS LEVEL 10912312 EXPLAINED (THE COOKIE MONSTER CAME FOR ME) (GONE SEXUAL)
Old horrors: a serial killer human or monster killing people at night
Horror now: impostor from amogus chasing you in an empty office building
Old horror: realistic primal fears
Horror now: "AHHH MY PARENTS WERE LAZY AND GAVE ME ACCESS, TO THE INTERNET WAY TOO EARLY SO NOW I AM SCARED OF WALLPAPER."
Ok but I’m absolutely sure that that video clip of the among us guy in the back rooms was a joke.
The whole video was meant as a joke - Jesus Christ!
Zoomers can't enjoy a creepy story unless it's turned into a shitty steam game with 30 monsters and lore thrown into it
I'm Gen Z even I don't even get backroom bs
As always, we start from a novel little idea, that then escapes the intended audience, is cannibalized by normies, and becomes unbearable.
I miss when the backrooms was just a 4chan meme, like SCP. Once it got mainstream it got shit
Every single time.
How is SCP bad so many stories in that are great
@@MiguelAngel-fw4sk bots dont count.
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 they all flipped their shit over a doorknob that made you sexually harass it and it's been downhill from there.
Now there's "Muh capatalism bad" SCPs (that more resemble Communist practices but sure whatever), they are trying to distance themselves from their 4chan origins, and the Foundation is totally super inclusive guys.
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 most of it is just disconnected Mythos for stuff that is never elaborated upon and yet is treated with utmost importance
this video goes very hard
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I hate zoomers so much it's unreal
Turkish Russia
Allah is gay
Liminal space fans when they realize their house is a liminal space everytime they leave it: 😱
It was just an unsettling concept of a dreamlike location that got turned into a "let's fill it with spooky stuff for clicks!" type of videos.
Wow, what a spine-tingling, bone-chilling, jumpscare-free, genre-defining, character development driven wallpaper analysis. Another gem from this channel.
Backrooms is at its best when not bogged down by quirky items, generic monsters, and information. The more you study it, the more you understand, the more you don’t fear it.
Cannot wait to tell my grandkids about my scary wallpaper phobia when I'm old.
Kids will be kids. Once you realize that a HUGE portion of the internet is actual literal children, things start to make a lot more sense. They have more free time than adults to constantly sit around online posting all day, and thus are overrepresented in many spaces. Some of the brighter ones might come up with something vaguely passable that gains traction amongst fellow kids, and eventually gullible adults will be convinced too upon seeing the high like or share count - not realizing that 10,000 of those likes are from kids on their ipads. This is the first time in human history in which literal children can sometimes birth ideas or thoughts that gain traction amongst adults due to being anonymous online.
I HAVE TO BE ALONE????? IN A HECKIN COMFY ROOM???? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE FAUCI SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
I have to... IHAVETOBACKROOOOOOOM
The 20 year old Backroomer:
@@sr.mental5876*15 year old
The problem is that the point of liminal spaces is that they are featureless *empty.* Making scads of lore for them means that they are no longer empty; they're filled with lore. Putting a monster in there makes the danger a singular point, the monster, rather than the space itself. Having "levels" makes it *more* navigable, not less, because you can now be in one part of the space rather than lost in anywhere.
The way to play into it in a way that actually enhances it it so expand the scope of the bland nothing that defines it. Make it non-Euclidean to make it easier to get lost. Make it outside of time as well as out of bounds. Maybe play into how it's both *just* out bounds, as well as infinitely far. You can faintly hear voices of crowds somewhere nearby, but as you try to get closer the sound is coming from further away... and the crowd noise doesn't sound like it's in [your language] half the time.
Backrooms are a "less is more" concept, but the fanfic writers who latch onto these fads have no concept of less is more.
The monsters ruined it because, at least for me, the "horror" of the backrooms was psychological. Everyone would eventually go insane from the lack of stimulation, maybe even hallucinate things. Assuming nothing magically kept you alive, you'd just slowly die from lack of food/water as you slowly go insane unable to ever know what happened to you.
It's the same people that popularized FNAF and Outlast, anything scares them
Honestly the scariest thing about the backrooms was the dread that you were alone untill you die but then they added things to it and it lost its scare factor and with scp the infographic show got to it and made a channel for scp things last thing I saw from that channel was the doomslayer vs scp 096 so in general if a "horror" thing gets popular with kids it's doomed
I mean I know you're trying to make that sound like a bad thing but that actually does sound pretty interesting and fun to me.
That sounds like a dream for me
I met someone who believed in them
There afraid of mean words and other people’s opinions that go against there own, of course they get so scared over wallpaper
I bet if i told you that anyone should be able to own a gun, you would scream murderer, you seem to be part of the weak minded few after all, classifying an entire generation under one banner.
Wtf was i on when i wrote this ☠️☠️☠️
You're literally a kid writing this.
@@MCLVideogen alpha is gonna destroy zoomerslop. CHUD!!!! Skibidi power!!!!!
WTF are you talking about?@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
Parents of zoomers should utilize this: "Do your homework, zoomer or I will send you to the backrooms"
Zoomers also afraid of answering the telephone
I'm not part of Gen Z, but for years I've had a recurring dream where I am trapped inside an endless complex of labyrinthian hallways and offices and I'm desperately trying to get outside. It's claustrophobic and oppressing, which is part of why liminal spaces like the backrooms are so unsettling.
Calling creepy things “uncanny” is literally Generation Z’s way of doing what millennials did by making everything “hyperrealistic”
Gen Z is also afraid of holes; I wonder how many people would actually have trypophobia without the internet.
I am from gen z and I don't even know how they even scared of them in the first place.
This goes with the abandoned building exploration videos as well. There's some fascination about it because it might tell a story that fills your imagination because there's something unsettling about it.
Supereyepatchwolf: starts sweating profusely
I personally like a lot of super eye patch wolf's videos
@@kingj9664 soy
@@deece1482 Forgot you guys hate fun and have the attention spans of Goldfish
@@kingj9664 I don't enjoy Irish manchildren talking about Asian cartoons, I'd much rather listen to something productive, or play a video game, or you know, do ANYTHING else with my time.
My nightmares as a kid were literally the "backrooms". Walking through the understructure of a baseball stadium with constant concrete stairs as a kid, surrounded by faceless adults. Now it feels novel and I'm not afraid of it, so I just ignore any backrooms content that seems stupid.
Liminal spaces don't really scare me. Just reminds me of Garry's Mod, and screwing around with thousands of enemies while I mow them all down with weapons from Quake 2.
I never thought of the backrooms as “scary” or a “psychological horror” concept, but one of much more nostalgia than anything else. I remember myself as a young child in a similar office space with similar wallpaper, unable to pin down and confirm such a memory. I thought the backrooms were a cool concept, but with the ‘levels’ and ‘monsters’ it quickly lost that air of nostalgia and familiarity.
I honestly think adding "lore" to the original post ruined its effect. It did have a slightly unsettling notion to it because of "liminal space" but now that picture is the backrooms a whole thing no just a generic hallway that could be anywhere that you sort of recognised from the recess of your memory. It's just the back rooms.
I miss the liminal Spaces threads on /v/ before twitter and Reddit got ahold of them
Normies on social media will ruin anything.
Someone should make like a story or an analogue horror video about a monster that kills children if they don't take a shower or do their homework
Liminal spaces are unsettling depending on the situation since walking in a forest alone is completely fine since you don't expect anyone but abandoned places are a little bit so since you're usually around other people in similar buildings and you're also not used to homeless hunting
in the forest you gotta look out for bears. A grizzly bear is scary.
Nah, the worst you can get is some indigenous animals or a crackhead.
@@waylonu3495 yeah but those are routine threats for homeless hunters
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So I hear they’re making a Backrooms movie over the summer.
“Gen Z is afraid of wallpaper lol”
Charlotte Perkins Gilman: “Hold my typewriter.”
This is the same shit that happened with Trevor Henderson, he makes such good art where he places monsters into places where you would expect them to be (maybe a junkyard at midnight) and kids grappled onto his art, not even choosing to popularize his GOOD and SCARY monsters, instead choosing some shitty cartoon cat. Really sad to see because my sister even told me that she had seen it.
More hilarious than scary
The backrooms are just the monster under the bed of this generation.
It works.
This video made me subscribe, you’re one of the most impressive analysts on youtube thus far. Also your Chills impression was pristine.
Can agree to some parts of this video. People trying to argue over which “lore” is more accurate is easily the most aggravating part.
When are you going to make Goyslop series?
Meanwhile, in the /v/ apartments...
The real L is being scared of anything fictional. There are enough real life horrors to be frightend of.
>words words words
@@RaszgalPhoenix seethe
Things to be afraid (reasonable fears) about:
>the elite
>the government
>another nation
>death
>limits of human understanding
>etc…
@@sr.mental5876 cartels....
its mostly kids + handicapped people
I always found most liminal space images more comforting than terrifying.
3:23 Lol, your horror youtube voice cadence was so spot on. All these guy's sound so similar.
There was a book series i read years ago that had a concept like the backrooms in it, it was called otherland by tad williams and was about a group of people who get trapped in a series of digital worlds owned by a group of billionaires who plan to use those digital worlds to cheat death by transferring their consciousness into them, one of those worlds was a building that seemingly went on forever, just room after room after hallway with tribes of people living in it and migrating through it, it was a pretty good book series
The thing that creeps me out about the back rooms is that you can’t get out. That hits a phobia.
Like your life was so good you really wanted to get back to it, don't lie
why is everything on this channel written with this condescending tone as though you're somehow better than every subject you make a video on
Cry harder.
@@666chapelofblood even doe the soy lore is gemmier than this channel
IS THAT A FREAKING EMTPY HALLWAY? Ö
Speaking as a gen z kid (early 2000s, don't fret), I think the purpose of the backrooms was to shine a light on how a lot of us grew up. We had tech, obviously, but the transition between analog and digital tech was a weird one. I always think of being a very small child when I would wake up after falling asleep to SpongeBob or something, and just the uncanniness of noone being there and the room being vaguely lit by a CRT tele that I'm sure many others experienced is such an indescribable feeling. Not one of dread necessarily, but just super vivid and unnerving. I think it's kinda cool that children have a platform to express their feelings now, cause they're a lot more imaginative than a lot of the rest of us. There's definitely something to be said about the consumerism of it all, but we shouldn't let children ruin the novelty of something that we enjoy.
@Nobody because the backrooms are being used as a way to hate on kids my age and I just wanted to relay my experience to try to dissapate it as much as possible, considering how pointless generational pissing matches are. Go ahead and use it as a copypasta, maybe you'll find some kids that can relate :)
Nobody other than autistic nineteen year olds gives a damn about the transition period in your TV from CRT to Digital.
2020 Liminal Archives lore was the best one. it had an intruiging amount of mystery while still having the "levels" shit except it actually makes sense and served to make the world actually scary by exploring different fears and unsettling environments instead of just "BE SURE TO BRING ULTRA ALMOND DRINK FOR THE BOS FITE OF LEVLE @#$(#Q$$!!! HE HAS TEH EPIC SQUID ATTACK"
Got a link? I quite liked the original post when I first saw it circulating around
@Lone Fifteen Mr. Ferrantes videos are a good archive of it. Try watching his levels 1-12 video
A show called severance released last year and it uses the concept of backrooms not to necessarily be scary, but to set the atmosphere.
It came out during the prime of the backroom memes, but I guess people were more interessted in quirky horror characters and game theories about the backrooms
THEY'RE MAKING AN OFFICAL THEATRICAL FILM BASED ON THE BATHROOMS LMMMAOOOOO
I thought it was unique for awhile, but when I heard people calling Tony Hwak Pro Skater 'liminal' that shit sounded too stupid man. There's no atmosphere in being a severed hand riding a skateboard while goldfinger blasting in the background.
The Backroomsis such a hit and miss kind of thing. On one hand its oversaturated and dragged into absurdity by a lot of people trying to make their own ideas into a canon, but on the other hand there is some genuinly talented creators out there using the basic concept and making something unique from it while still respecting the idea of it not being horror but meant to be unpleasant and uncomfortable.
Kane Pixel's series is actually really good (and is easily one of the best youtube series I have seen a while) and definitely deserves it's recognition. He respects the original concept, while at the sametime building on it. The cool part about his series is it's built around mystery, and not every detail is throughly explained, which leaves room for speculation. Not only does it have excellent animation quality (espically considering he did most of it in Blender), the directing and voice acting feels natural, complete with an original soundtrack (which he actually composes himself) that does a fantastic job of setting the tone. Also his series is completely original and is not connected to the cesspool that is the wiki (He actually didn't even know about the wiki when he made the first found footage.) As ridiculous as the concept of the backrooms is, Kane's series proves that a concept like that can be done really well when you take the original idea and tie a good narrative to it. Highly recommend checking it out.
The problem with this generation is the fact that EVERYTHING needs to be known
Mystery and clues are unacceptable for the goldfish attention span of this new generation.
@@tony_5156 Couldnt agree more, the mystery is what makes the story interesting and keeps the audience engaged in it.That is the main reasons why I like Kane's series so much and I wish we'll saw more cryptic/mystery focused stories like it these days. It gives you the opportunity to play as the detective and theorize about certain details and how they might contribute to the overall plot.
This trend is another in a line that I can't quite explain except by giving an example.
It's like when people say
"H.R. Geiger is my favourite artist"
And you think
'Is he, or have you just heard of him?'
Mlenial here, I think the backrooms can be great, and I think they were at some time before the fan base grew out of control and they ruined it
“Man open areas are so spooky and horrific. What scares you?”
Working as hard as I can my whole life and my kids looking back at me not with pride but with pity.
Same
love that system shock music choice
One of the worst parts of the backrooms is the "levels." I remember reading a comment talking about the scariest levels being 200-999. What was scary to me about the backrooms was endlessly wandering alone slowly dying of starvation and thirst. The monster part felt like a fear of the unknown thing but that's it.
Now there's levels that have food and a very valuable resource is almond water. It's a dead meme.
I find the backrooms more fascinating then scary, makes me want to unpack the ecosystem of this new world.
there being an "ecosystem" to "unpack" is the issue.
The Nick Crowley shade 😆😆😆
This was a great vid and Iv just enjoyed your two latest. Subbed
I remember the original posts , for a few weeks it was all you see.
I stopped staying that much online and suddenly a few years later i see all this and I'm like wtf how did it take off like this. It s crazy how many cultural things that are mainstream now were some shitty board specific post at one time. Like it s wierd seeing a boomer talk about some crazy conspiracy you saw either on /x/ or /pol/ back in 2016 ( think of that whole adrenochrome thing, think that s when it really took off)
Adrenochrome (and most Q) conspiracy theories did not originate on /pol/ or with the Q movement. They took a bunch of older, disconnected conspiracy theories and tied them into a messianic Trump narrative.
@@TrappedInFloor pol made it popular and mainstream. Stop being a redditor" umm ackhually". Never said it orginiated there , just that it took off
I see Cobson I say Coal
Cobson is.... LE BAD even thoughie he will always be a gem and has saved millions of troons from increasing the percentage
@@test1q7 >has saved millions of troons from increasing the percentage
That's a bad thing though.
@@test1q7 how the fauci werent you censored by the surveillance machine for that
@@test1q7 Say hi for the Discord for me!
@@fibber2991 >Troons killing themselves is bad even though they keep the soyconomy running
1:34 Kane's lore has no levels btw
Also the backrooms with levels pretty much took away what made the backrooms the backrooms, since the whole point of the backrooms is that you're in a mysterious space of randomly segmented rooms with no way out, all by yourself
And while the original 4chan post did mention something might be in the rooms with you, the difference is that the creature is completely mysterious and ambiguous
society has to be more careful with them spaces, one time i went to a supermarket and i was the only one there, i got lost until a guy told me that they were closing the store, i paid for my groceries and leave the place, imagine if you get lost there, no one will see you again ever, those supermarkets are really something scary with that music they play and the idles they have.
the cob at the beginning is scarier than any of le liminal space images
>the cob at the beginning is scarier tha-ACK