BREAKING: Asia Argento Paid Off Sexual Assault Accuser
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2018
- Christy, Alonso, and Matt discuss the bombshell report that #MeToo advocator Asia Argento paid off an underage sexual abuse victim.
Let us know what you think of this New York Times report in the comments below.
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"Even if it is true"..Wow, don't remember them saying anything like that, when it was a guy being accused.
Yup. I wonder if the TYT crowd will be astute enough to notice that.
Equal representation and criticism please? You go into a 20 minute discussion about Harvey Weinstein or Chris Hardwick but if it's a female that is accused then you spend 80 seconds on it.
She should be "called out on it"?...lol...
How about imprisoned. Let's start there, k?
welcome to american where when a boy is raped by a woman "its not rape" and "you go boy" is the normal response
I don't know who she is but that's disgusting and she should be dragged like any other adult that has sexually abused a child. Just because she was a victim before Does Not give her license to ruin someone else's life by victimizing them in the same way. Sickening!
They made this video only two minutes. Instead of talking about the real issue here, they made it about Harvey and her “victimhood”
Why is this video so short? Is it because the story puts a female in a bad light?
Gavin48 too true
Maybe there just isn't that much more to say about it.
Feels like they had more to say but TYT producer cut them off and changed the segment quickly.
It's 1 article, with 1 accuser, they stated the alleged facts & gave their opinions, what else did you want them to show?? The fact that they even made a video is commendable enough since most news outlets are willing to let this slide by until it disappears or actually reaches a courtroom, in partciluar Weinstein's trial.
They've had plenty to say about Hardwick, Keeler, and Franken - and none of those guys did anything wrong. #DoubleStandard
Assuming it happened? I thought we were supposed to believe victims?
Exactly watch the Chris Hardwick video they made completely different from this
Talk about this properly and give this situation some respect, she groomed him since he was 7. She acted like a mother figure since he was a kid, she posted an instagram photo with a caption something like "i'm a mom waiting to meet my kid" (I'm paraphrasing) then she raped him. This is so goddamn terrible it's unbelievable, yes it doesn't negate the weinstein situation but you're brushing this one aside with a 2min long casual remark.
Another Hollywood hypocrite? Say it isn't so.
Yes, Harvey is a monster and deserves to be in prison but Argento also deserves to have consequences, surprised Alonso did not say he was going to stop watching Argento's work, he did that when Spacey was accused.
Matt talk of Chris Hardwick now 👻
Poor boy....he's not being given the same belief or support a girl would get. Just disgusting
Good for him for being brave come out. All love and support.
This is disappointing, and kind of really gross. There was hardly any mention of the victim you instead made it about Asia and her victimhood and Harvey Weinstein, when Harvey has NOTHING to do with this. Actually stating "no one is talking about this" and then NOT talking about it is really upsetting. He is alleging she sexually assaulted him. If he was female and said a male actor sexually assaulted her when she was 17 you wouldn't be saying it this way.
They are eating themselves...
funny how the subject of one of the most visible faces of a movement against sexual assault being allegedly an assaulter herself only deserves two minutes of time to address such issue...
"Assuming it happened." - Alonso, kinda sounds like you've identified a bit more with 'Girls' Lena Dunham, another great figure who believed the victims until (in her case) the victim was black and the aggressor was white. But I guess women can only be victims / survivors, or heroes, and no other possibility exists. I like Alonso and everyone here and will qualify this as what I hope is a slip of the tongue due to the fact live stream slips of the tongue happen - but still, dude.
A very sincere thumbs down.
WHAT? assuming? I didn't hear you say this for Chris Hardwick or other accused of #metoo. The level of hypocrisy here is baffling. "it doesn't mean this or that" wasn't a question when you criticized Louis C K's "I Love You, Daddy". remember? you guys argued that because Louis did That, this movie and all Louis relayted is leprotic.
Glass Houses...
Great discussion. Thorough. Reminds me of when people were talking about Kevin Spacey's dad.
afrikoka Yeah, horrific stuff with he and his brother
you guys are completely right. being a victim doesn't mean you can't be a shitty person to someone else. not only good people get assaulted NEWSFLASH.
This opens the door even wider for men who have been sexually assaulted by women and by men. I know when the MeToo movement was in full swing, male actors like Terry Crews and Brendan Fraser had their stories of how they were victims of sexual assault. But they didn’t really get the attention on them like Gwyneth Paltrow did on her, or any of the other actresses who were victims of Harvey Weinstein.
Men shouldn’t be afraid to tell their stories, so I praise Jimmy Bennett for what he is doing.
Ahhhh, I wish you guys had talked a little longer about this or talked about this live...
wtf that was rape
. And she complained about Weinstein and does the same thing
Hahahahaha the ironi😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hollywood is just a cesspool. I am just waiting for the Tom Hanks accusers to come forward. Wilson, the ball, is waiting for the perfect moment to tell his harrowing story. Tom was very, very handsy on that set!
This story doesn't make you question her reliability at all you three? I'm honestly sickened that a story about a woman sexually assaulting a teen boy turned into a steadfast defense of the same woman's accusations towards someone else. This story derails her credibility
Tons of abusers have been abused in the past doesn't mean we shouldn't address a victims crimes.
Here we go again, What The Flick the leading authority on the #MeToo movement.
We live in a strange world.
Hey rich and famous people, I have a newsflash for you: If you wave stacks of cash around you can stick your hand down almost anyone's pants who isn't rich. Most of us are relatively desperate and will do anything for money. Other rich and famous people aren't on the end of their ropes like we are.
Trust me, under the dirt of the unwashed masses lies some pretty attractive people. You've been predating on the wrong thing this entire time.
Less than 2 minutes? WTF What The Flick!
how did this come about and are you saying her abuser is using this to help his legal defence? Just some clairity is what im asking for i didnt see the new york times report..
he was paid off so he cant talk. google the article
The documents were anonymously given to the NY Times, so it could be Weinstein's camp planting stories of doubt for his legal defense, which would not be out of character, or it could be the victim trying to get his story out without speaking.
no double standards, please..
I am not a troll, I identify as feminist and as a progressive, but no one can deny for a second that these people's reaction to the Asia Argento scandal is with far more "well, IF its true" skepticism than their "instantly he's guilty once accused" reactions to the allegations made against Chris Hardwick and Ryan Seacrest. We also don't know if they did it or not, and there is far more hard evidence against Asia in photos and social media posts, then there is to incriminate both of those guys. I'm just saying, when a gender double standard is this obvious, it needs to be called out. I also acknowledge that Asia is both a victim and a perpetrator of sexual abuse, neither one invalidates the other, though she has certainly lost her credibility as an advocate for the #MeToo movement with these disturbing revelations.
Nice!
*annnnnnd heeeeeeree weeee go.*
Call it rape! I'm not surprised you guys are going light on the fact that she raped a child considering you supported Call Me By Your Name where an adult also had sex with a 17 year old child. Why is this awful but CMBYN isn't?
Cause CYBYN was consensual and the age of consent in Italy was 14
Although it's terrible, It makes sense why she chose this young man to sleep with. He kinda looks like her baby's father.
That’s no excuse
dont know either of them but sounds about white.
He who is without sin shall cast the first stone.
Funny brought up now maybe the zionest payback?
What's the age of conscent in Italy? It's probably 15 like in most of Europe, only in America is it 18. And just because he felt bad about it afterwards doesn't mean she did anything wrong here. It's a little creepy cause they had this mother/son type of relationship.
Argento is having a shit year isn't she. Her boyfriend just commited suicede and now this.
What state? Age of consent is 15 in the one I live in. Yeah yeah yeah I know it's probably California where it isn't.
This incident could end up derailing whatever progress the movement made, which is sad because some concrete progress did indeed happen
True. And some serious bullshit happened too. It was already derailing itself.
Payback from harveys people?
WTF is WTF now a politics channel?
They needed to talk about it, because Cenk, on the main show, effectively argued "It wasn't rape because he probably enjoyed it"
And they can't upload that clip.
Ha...Ben ti sta bitch!
The word is "Asia"... like the continent
Asia. say it.
Asia.
She is Italian and that is why her last name is pronounced like Christy said it.
karma for cheating on Bourdain. hahahahaha
#metoo is the new #blacklivesmatter
Maybe more like the NeverForget campaign.
Just like the call me by your name movie! Was criminal! Not the movie LGBT community should have supported!
Unless i'm confused, call me by your name was a fictional story, and all actors were of consenting age to be involved in the portrayal of a story about an inappropriate loving relationship. Whereas Metoo and this are true stories about real human persons who felt uncomfortable with an unrequited interaction they had with someone more powerful/older than they.
Still sends wrong message
That women is a huge hypocrite to stand on that stage and call out Weinstein and she has done questionably worse or the same kind of thing. Fair play to that young boy who has spoken up.
Sorry - apparently the news worthy part is whether we can still feel bad about Weinstein (of course we can) - as compared to the fact that there’s a not-so-subtle double standard being applied (made worse of course by the fact that she was so instrumental in the metoo movement... which is not so good for the movement when there’s a pretty strong whiff of hypocrisy. Yes the two things shouldn’t be conflated - but also yes one shouldn’t be highlighted and the other dismissed (as I heard Cenk rationalize it - almost any boy would love to have sex with (older) women so what’s the problem). He was under the age of consent - and whether he enjoyed it or not - abuse comes from the imbalance of power.
Yeah Cenk's comment was discusting. Should their be a debate whether 17 yo can consent? Probably. I mean in different countries/states it's anywhere from 14 too 21. 18 is a good standard, but there is no reason to be critical about it. Imo age difference, and the subsequent power dynamics are more important then an arbitrary age limmit. Should it be a double standard? no. 17 yo girls are as much hormone driven as boys of the same age.
Frahamen it’s definitely not about the legality aspect (though this isn’t a get-out-of-jail), I just didn’t like Alonso’s line “if it’s true”... it just smacks of double standards. Of course it doesn’t detract from allegations against Weinstein, but it also says, perhaps there’s a lot more rot (and complexity) than sometimes social movements have tolerance for. The MeToo movement is undoubtedly overdue... but when it starts to look like the whole system is f’d up, it starts to look less like a cause than a symptom of bigger problems. Still - it’s just one case, and yes - victims seem often doomed to develop into victimizers.
Hard to imagine a woman raping a 17 year old guy, though it isn't impossible, obviously. I'm just wondering what the details are. How exactly did she force him ? Feeling "uncomfortable" after a sexual encounter does not make it sexual assault. Was he drugged ? Apparently not. Physically forced in some other way ? Was he threatened somehow ? It's really not clear. At any rate, he was underage, so it's still statutory rape no matter what, but let's be real, lots of teenage guys consent to sex with older women and are in no way traumatized by it. Their consent may be invalidated by law, but still, they consent.
It's hard to know what happened here without the details, but honestly this seems like yet another fairly weak accusation, only this time it was directed at a woman instead of a man.
Well, his account of the story is as follows:
Asia's older, and in a more experienced, authortative position than he is.
She told him to come meet her.
She pushed him onto the bed.
She took his pants off.
She performed oral sex on him.
She climbed on top of him.
She initiated intercourse.
He submitted, presumably because he felt like his career might depend on it.
He felt 'uncomfortable' after a sexual encounter.
Now, let's flip roles:
Harvey's older, and in a more experienced, authortative position than she is.
He tells her when to meet him
He pushes her onto the bed
He takes her pants off
He performs oral sex on her.
He climbs on top of her
He initiates intercourse.
She submitted, presumably because she felt like her career might depend on it.
She felt 'uncomfortable' after a sexual encounter.
And everyone lost their minds.
Well, that's gonna be one of the great mysteries of our time.
@@laluseed She's not a child rapist. 17 years old is not a child, biologically or sexually. And what is her position of authority ? She didn't force him into anything. Being more famous is not "authority" and does not make it rape.
I must have always been in the wrong place, guys used to pay woman to get assaulted like that. and a 17 year old is not a child. I was in the Army at 17 years of age.
Cause you're never too young to kill for your country but there's a strict age of consent.
Some guys aren't ready for sex at that age.
@@4kfrank276 or at least not with her.
By your logic get accusation against Harvey weinstein because she was 21.
you need parent's permission and/or graduation/ged to join the army unless they changed the ar..
In Trump's America you can only be one thing. A victim and victimizer that's far too complex for American's today.
That would imply that a person would have to step back figure out context for the whole story and then decide how
they feel. For almost all of America that is just asking to much. Also 17 is a bit old he could be tried for murder or
can start trying to enlist in the army to murder for pay, sex though that would obviously harm this poor helpless child.
I believe you can also consider him by another thing a young adult. I think potential money is why we are hearing about
this.
He got him some trim at seventeen.......big deal. Keep yo mouth shut and keep it movin.