Why China Uses this Massive Sniper Grenade Launcher
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Developed by the Hunan Institute of Technology, the QLU-11 is manufactured by Norinco, China’s state owned weapons manufacturer, and one of the largest defense contractors in the world. While the QLU-11 is used exclusively by the Chinese military, an export model is available for international buyers, designated the LG5.
Written by: Chris Cappy & Justin Taylor
Edited by: Savvy Studios
The primary difference between the two is that the LG5 uses NATO Standard 40x53mm grenade rounds, meaning it can fire any number of ammunition fielded by foreign militaries already using that round, including their own programmable airburst munitions.
Now why would China fully commit to an idea that other militaries passed over? The answer comes down to the two areas the PLA expect their next conflict to arise. The mountainous border with India, and on the Island of Taiwan.
Looking first at the border with India, in the event that China and India upgraded their border conflict from spiked maces and homemade spears to full scale kinetic conflict, they would be doing so primarily in unforgiving high altitude mountain terrain. By extension this means dismounted infantry with softskin or lightly armored vehicles in support would be the name of the game.
Adding to this mountainous terrain lends itself to incredibly long clear sightlines, so long that it’s not uncommon to view an enemy target for extended periods of time but be well outside of the maximum range of your squad or platoon’s small arms. You’re basically stuck throwing up rude hand gestures until you get into firing range. While systems like man portable ATGMs and RPGs might be able to reach out that far, they’re best saved for when you actually encounter vehicles.
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Okie dokie thanks
see it as skyscraper weapon like in hong kong ...
Omg I've seen that M&M on TV for years, now they're on CZcams. Its official, YT is better then TV
You got to be kidding me .... i have seen those mountain bunkers , it only has a small opening for barell and sight .... these wepon system with leaser and programmable ammo .... damn ITBP is fucked ...
hooahh@@skylosfoxtrot2350
Everyday we are getting closer to Warhammer 40k bolter
The Emperor Protects.
Well this is basically a bolter. But like cappy said, good luck firing this from shoulder
@@leoli2450 That's why the bolters are only for Astartes lol
@@leoli2450 Neopup PAW-20 is made for this
@@channingtaintum nah, there are smaller ones for regular humans without power armor but those are also weaker
"Fire a warning shot."
"Sir, this is a grenade-launching sniper rifle."
"Fire it anyway."
They use loud speaker to warn
the lethal zone is 1m (~1 yard in burger unit) and the injury zone is likely several times of that
so a shot around 10-20m near the enemy could work as a warning shot
"Sir, they are not responding to the warning shot... oh wait.. ohhh"
It's a dire warning.
"But sir, what about collateral damage?"
"Ahh potato potahtoe Patterson, fire that rifle!"
I would never ask _why_ about this. "Massive Sniper Grenade Launcher" is one of the most beautiful phrases I've ever read.
MSGL
Some Chinese romance I guess ? :)
if you fire a warning ahot, aim exactly 12 o clock. Safe if you want not to hurt the enemy.😅
Accurate by precision?
Accuracy by volume?
ACCURACY BY EXPLOSION!!!!!!
Smart Chinese nobody in the world have this,only in China,technology maybe better then USA,granete luncher with that accurate,precision and reach first see something like that just smart people
@biljanaovujovic1759 I do appreciate your Chinese English. 😂 (just finding it funny I can instantly recognize you are Asian by the way you speak.)
The US actually had this type of grenade launcher, but they scrapped it I think because of "Geneva Convention". If a grenade does not explode and gets stuck in a body, it might kill medical staff who are trying to save him.
With that said, I didn't understand lately why it can't just "be on a timer," but "explode on impact." Well, the Chinese have done it. Well done! I wouldn't be surprised if other countries follow suit soon too. I would not want to go up against that as an infrantry.
好笑
@@millanferende6723 It was called the XM25 and it was a semi automatic magazine fed 25mm grenade launcher. Pretty much a rifle configuration. It could be detonated in direct impact or airburst in order to hit enemies with indirect fire. It had an effective pinpoint fire range of 500M and an AOE effective range of 700M
It appeared in the video game Modern Warfare 3 in 2011.
@@biljanaovujovic1759 Except America literally had this in the 90's and scrapped it.
Even the PLA said that they took it from them, actually citing their sources instead of stealing them.
Officer: Sir our sniper cannot aim properly
Genral :hmmmm
Generals don't deal with snipers thats a captains job
@@Nik-xi2ri and nuking jokes is yours, apparently
"Simple solutions for simple problems."
" 'Simple' ?!"
*"Did I stutter?"*
@@Nik-xi2riGood grief, he was making a joke. Don't you recognize humor?
@Nik-xi2ri no generals deal with chicken, General Tso's to be exact
Sniper: “Dear *insert name here*”
Grenade launcher: “to whom it may concern”
Sniper grenade launcher: “as per my last email”
I hope this email finds you before I do…..
"To whom it will concern"
Nuclear weapon: This is public service announcement......
Galactus: *casually holds Earth* "Tasty-looking Planet."~
False Vacuum Decay Bomb: *And God descended from Heaven, and said:*
14:10 Sarcasm aside, the precision to hit a moving small target in the water is incredible.
Not to mention, from an unstable platform.. i.e a ship rocking in the sea...
They shoot from helicopter
US Army: We improve sniper accuracy at 1000m to 1 MOA. Chinese Army: We improve sniper blast radius to 10 feet 😂
China now has the most of the world's most accurate snipers.
still kills at 1meter+- off target@@iamend2609
@@iamend2609 source:ccp propagandist bots.
这把枪是对付碉堡的，可以把榴弹打进洞里
I need this in Squad, NOW.
Frfr, tired of using rpg on windows
No
Bro I was thinking the same thing lol
See the Krysae sniper in Mass Effect 3
Arma 3, too!
Pretty cool sniper rifle. China over here making a Warhammer 40k gun.
You call that DAKKA!?!
@@BillyWitchDoctorDotCombolter
@@rainforcer1 shoota
Norinco has made a whole bunch of weird things, the likes you only see in video games. and in Norinco.
south africans already made it ages ago, it's called the neopup paw-20, forgotten weapons has a video on it. Thing is cool af
This channel has the perfect mix between technical details, and a broader stroke with the pencil when painting the situation. The channel started fun but have grown up. Do not loose the fun.
The other wee problem with the XM25 was that it was a shoulder-fired anti-personel weapon that fired a relatively small explosive projectile that could explode inside a person's body. This fell foul of the Hague Convention on exploding bullets for rifles, the likely reason for it being quietly dropped even though troops on the ground found it effective. The QLU-11 is not a shoulder-fired weapon, has a big projectile, and is primarily anti-materiel, so dodges around the legal issues in a plausible way.
"Sniper and grenade launcher dont go in the same sentence"
The soldier used the automatic grenade launcher to supress the sniper.
A typical grenade launcher range is 400meters. Most likely not reach the sniper
@@tiberianexcalibur thats for handheld launchers only
automatic grenade launchers can shoot out as far as 2200 meters
of course at the cost of accuracy, but a rain of grenades should be enough for supression
The look on your face when the snipe you are tasked with eliminating with your grenade launching anti sniper sniper rifle with a 1,000 meter range smiles at you from 1,200 yards away. 😢
@@wastool snipers can reposition, yk.
Edit: i glossed over the fact that you said yards... 97 metres difference. All the sniper needs to do is aim sligthly higher.
@@wastool There's not as much distance between 1KM and 1.2K yrds as you seem to think
Sounds like something I drew up as a five year old.
Someone must have leaked your drawings.
You draw this good when you was 5 years old?
Right, like you knew what a Grenade launcher or sniper rifle was when you were 5 😑
@@theoutlawking9123 'Murica
@@theoutlawking9123 It's not exactly all that unlikely. Lots of kids play video games featuring all sorts of firearms.
"Why have a sniper grenade launcher in the place?"
Sir, this is America. I'm disappointed we *don't* have our own.
You kinda did, but it was kinda stupid so you stopped development.
If this shows more promise, then America will make a better version of it.
America needs to copy the Chinese copy for once and this is it.
@@geronimo5537 nah US is ok with just having an AC-130 flying around raining 20mm, 40mm, and 105mm rounds.
This is notionally very similar to our limited use of the XM25 when we trialled that weapon system. You mention the use of normal grenade launchers and mortars as a reason we ultimately didn't go with it, but a crucial difference was that those 25mm grenade was largely meant to mitigate collateral damage and allow us a similar capability into a space where there was a high likelihood those weapons with larger areas of effect could harm civilians and structures near to the enemy, while also mitigating the range disadvantage M4s had against AK's. When your weapon hits a target at sniper rifle ranges with a 2.5 ft pie plate it doesn't need to be as precise or accurate as a conventional rifle used for sniping.
Xm25 was killed by other arms manufacturers who were look at a system that was going to impact their sales of more expensive ammunition! 😊 Corporate Greed over solders welfare!
Any other StarCraft fans here?? This reminded me of the C-10 canister rifle used by the Ghosts. If you don't know, it's basically a souped-up sniper rifle that shoots 25mm antipersonnel explosive rounds. Thanks for another great one btw, Chris!
NUCLEAR LAUCH DETECTED
Me
Batlefield series are a lot more real than whatever is that game. 😂
I used to mix them into bunkers in SC1 for their extended attack range. Still need marines, turrets, and siege tanks but they were great for AA.
Good old times
Glad you talked about the recoil. Watching those slow mo shots makes a .50 look tame. Also "If you believe what the Chinese say" should be just permanently on screen at this point.
Nah, don't want to get screen burn-in
Have it bouncing around the screen like those old screen savers.
The US lies harder than China though. If nothing for the simple fact they must constantly justify invading other peoples land under the pretense of world policing
why do u think america always says china lies lol
there should be a full disclaimer at the beginning that all of this is based on if it does what the CPP says it does
thank you for using the metric system
An answer to the question no one asked: "What if an anti-material sniper rifle and artillery gun had a baby?"
Both are sniper rifles....
change my mind...
@@IloveJellow one shoots straight but the other shoots curved or what those type of people would say is bi
"A mule that hates you personallly ". Best ever
It had an extended rubber grommet on the scope im not sure on its range but a 50 cal explosive round will do the same thing when fired at a wall and some shotgun systems fire smart flechette rounds up to a 150 yards using air burst and room clearing fragments . It's not something you want blowing up on you but neithers a 50 cal .
Dead space definitely is a tactical challenge! Those space Zombies are scary 😢
You'd need this gun in dead space.
Stross just needs a screwdriver...
@@1983pety Yeah, and the dudes got like a 3:1 KD. He killed his wife, his daughter, and an eyeball. People on battlefield would be dying for those ratios.
@@rivenarchon333 I remember he was seeing his dead son. Luckily Ellie got a new eyeball by DS3
That actually sounds like an awesome idea. I reckon the ability to land a well placed grenade somewhere, in a man portable package would add so much to combat capabilities.
I don't know about the western media, but in Chinese media a lot of people say :
"Americans create the idea, we accomplish it"
at least it shows that the money the CIA stole from Congress has a practical use, unlike the Navy costs thousands of dollars to buy a coffee cup🤣
lmao. Owning all that IP theft instead of being ashamed is one way to do it.
They are not wrong.
Idea is easy, almost all people have ideas. The difference though is who makes it work.
@@Uzumaki.9 as if every greater country doesn't spy on it's adversaries already
“Why have a grenade launching sniper rifle…”
Well why not!?
indeed.
"眼睛受傷與服兵役無關" Your missing eye is not service related. Love that recoil!
Best comment! 😂😂
Lmao yes. I think the concept is still good, just needs more refinement. Perhaps a damping system like the lynx would be necessary, or just make the scope a wireless headset. This would even allow the user to shoot from behind a corner
Chinese guy😂😂😂
Like the 50 cal sniper rifle
@@de0509Yes but the lynx hydraulic dampening system makes the gun fire slowly and for some reason the Chinese wanted this thing to be able to fire in automatic and in quick bursts.
in most sniper movies ,one just waiting another show up behind the wall,when you got this ,you don't need to wait anymore🤣
I thought the US got rid of the XM25 when someone pointed out that it violated the Geneva Conventions.
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers that forgotten weapons video
It was because XM25 caliber is too small so it’s a sniper rifle which fires dumdums and it violates Geneva conventions. The Chinese one caliber is big enough to be categorized as a grenade launcher.
3:48 This is actually similar to a concept in WW1 of very small artillery pieces (37-50mm) that were meant to deal with MG and sniper nests.
Field Guns is what they were commonly known as
37mm field gun was a tremendous part of the battle of the Tenaru in the PTO of WW2, where it was used to break up banzai charges and the like.
@@ireviewshtuff that was a larger more powerful AT gun, not a field gun
@@WynnofThule against the japanese US rarely brings AT guns as most of the japanese tanks are obsolete by the time US forces does island hopping. So the US actually used 37 mm field gun against both japanese tanks and infantries, with different ammunitions ofc.
I don't need it...
I don't need it...
I don't need it...
I dOn'T nEeD iT!...
I NEED IT!!! 😭
Yeah itll fall apart in a week. Dont get it from china
Try ask Saudi dude... Maybe... there's a possibility... that someone just can afford dump crap and Chinese is the only supplier can spare their capacity for such peoples beside their mass producing. @@cameronspence4977
@@cameronspence4977 tbf Norinco is a state owned military contractor that predates China becoming the world factory of cheap junk. From what I read many of the pre-ban Norinco imports are pretty well made.
@cameronspence4977 that's how my 250cc motorcycle was like 😢🤦🏾♂️😭😭😭😭
@@cameronspence4977ok but still… COMMON
I was a big fan of the M79 single shot grenade launcher. There were only 3 rounds available at the time I carried one. HE, Illumination and fleshette. As a corpsman with limited training with accuracy my role with the M79 was limited to defense of injured at close range where the fleshette round was extremely effective. If the other two rounds were to be used I would hand off the weapon to another member of the unit. I believe it stayed in inventory for such a long period is because it was light, had a simple design (making it cheap & reliable) and required limited training for effective application. A sniper version of a grenade launcher is not light weight, has a more complex design and requires much more training for effective application. I believe that this is why it not common outside of special operations.
Game hunters and harvesters don’t like to miss. If you miss, the game will bolt.
I have a lot of respect for skilled hunters.
With icbms or nukes even if you hit them they "bolt"
The LG5, which is a 40mm variant of the QLU-11, actually performed well during the Houthi-Saudi conflict. The Saudis used it during combat operations in Jizan. There are several issues that were also used by the Indonesian in the West Papua Conflict but I never got any footage to prove that they used or even acquired it. and because the LG5 is designed as a sniper grenade launcher. so it seems suitable for use in Urban Warfare. and for the 40mm version (LG5) there are various types of ammunition available, such as BGJ5 (HEDP), BGL3 high-explosive precision grenade, BGL3A programmable airburst grenade 40×53mm, BGH1 high-explosive incendiary grenade, 40×53mm BGR1 incendiary grenade, 40×53mm and BGS1 training grenade 40×53mm
I think ammunition variability is one of its strongest asset.
Interesting that they made it to where a NATO round could be used with it
Then they're able to sell it to more customers. @@fireraptor6670
@@fireraptor6670 When the largest and most aggressive military in the world is your beligerant opposition making your guns shoot their ammo is smart.
As the famous author Lu Xun once wrote, “The first person to eat crab is very much to be admired.” Ever since, the phrase “the first person to eat crab” has been used in China to describe brave and enterprising individuals.
I know Lu Xun and love his work, but I never heard this before. What is the phrase in chinese?
@@JustThatOneRandomGuy 第一个吃螃蟹的人是勇士
@@JustThatOneRandomGuyThis is a Chinese meme, and you can say that any meme comes from the mouth of Lu Xun, even though he has been dead for decades
@@tomli9793 lol is it a mainland thing cause I never heard anything like that I’m taiwan 😂
@@JustThatOneRandomGuyI mean just look at crabs. If no one has ever eaten them and told us that crabs are really delicious, who would think that this ugly looking creature with terrifying claws is edible.😂
All jokes aside this seems like it can be an extremely effective weapons system. Especially against light armored vehicles. Also would make a great anti material weapon. If I were building an army I could see this being in it.
We used Mk-19s when we first got to Iraq. It was literally never the answer. The video had a part that goes into why it might work for China, but I just don't see it. The guy that has to carry this is going to have to be a bear of a man, and his role is going to be limited much of the fighting when that is the weapon he has. I am not sure if it is in the video, but it is 28 pounds alone, 51 with tripod, and that does not include ammo.
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 Yeah, I get you. I don't think it'll be as effective while assaulting, but imo in a hardened defensive position, it can really come into its own. My bro used a mk-19 to single handedly defend a bridge against isis was used to send car bombs over to over run his position and they eventually gave up. He had the whole bridge marked and took them out until the bridge was blocked by burnt out chassis and it became impossible for the terrorist to move them.
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662
I disagree.
Firstly, there isn’t one guy who has to mule this. One soldier will carry the QLU-11, and any additional pieces like the bipod become a team effort. A small team ends up muling the QLU-11. You won’t have one guy carrying the weapon system, bipod, and all its ammo by himself. So weight isn’t a problem. Soldiers who have their MOS as machinegunners have carried much heavier than 20 to 50lbs.
While the MK-19 is an incredible weapon system, any of its disparities may not translate well to the QLU-11 accurately. For one, the grenade sniper rifle has much more range than the MK-19. The MK-19 is a monster at suppressive fire, and more so when mounted onto vehicle platforms like transport. It can be out ranged by certain small arms, so I can see its usage in open areas with little cover as dicey, but if it has high ground over a village, I don’t see how it’s an unwanted or ineffective system.
But back to the QLU-11. I don’t see it being an offensive weapon system. I’d definitely expect for the PLA to either have it already be fixed into defensible positions, or to be in the back lines. Having it on the front is just a recipe for trouble, and wouldn’t be utilizing its intended purpose well.
But I can see it giving China an unparalleled advantage if used correctly. For example, along China’s Indian border. There are many ravines and mountains. Having QLU-11s stationed atop high ground, overlooking a ravine could seriously impede enemy infantry. You have the advantage of a long range precision rifle, but no ballistic drawbacks. Not saying a marksman should ignore important aspects that go into this, such as wind, distance, drop, etc, but the very nature of this weapon does not call for a direct hit on an enemy. In fact, with its explosive payload, it could do well in eliminating multiple enemies in one grenade.
All in all, I believe it’s an amazing system in theory, and practice, and we’ll have to wait and see how it fairs in combat truly. It’s definitely not a weapon system you’ll lug to the front, and one you’ll want prefixed before combat, or to set up in a backline. A long ranged weapon system that delivers an explosive payload for anti-infantry or even light vehicles isn’t a half bad idea.
@@herrfantastisch7489 I guess you are a Marine, as the Army doesn't have a machine gun MOS. Why would the US plan to fight a war in Tibet? You want there to be a new MOS for a weapon based on fighting in a region of a country with virtually no strategic importance. It is a fantasy. We already have something that does all things you mentioned, and they are simpler and cheaper
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 Oh no, I’m no Marine, and I’d never pretend to be one. I have a great respect for people who serve, especially Americans, since you guys seem to be the most active around the world. I apologize if I implied I served at all.
I don’t believe the US or its allies need to follow suit and create a weapon similar to China. I wouldn’t say it’s an impossibility that the US would never step foot into a place like Tibet. But for sure, China will likely see fighting in areas like that since it’s in or close to their territory.
I was just pointing out some of the merit and use China could get out of that weapon system. They have their own challenges and interests, and it’s pretty neat to see how different militaries operate to fulfill their needs. I don’t think the US needs a weapon like the QLU-11 in its arsenal, at least not yet. But other countries could benefit from it.
And also for the fact the QLU-11 dances on the blurred legality line. Western countries would probably be slow to adopt it even if they wanted something like it, because it’s already a crime to hit someone with a grenade directly. Essentially a sniper rifle grenade launcher would probably have a lot of freak accidents of directly hitting a combatant and blowing up instead of hitting near them. But then there’s the loophole of “I was aiming for his gear” lol.
40k inquisitor: "Do you guys want bolters?! Cuz that's how you get bolters!"
Looked like the sight was smacking the hell outta the soldiers eye
That’s why it’s the anti sniper, sniper rifle. You might have been a decent sniper before you fired this garbage, now you’ve got an eye patch and every time you go to the bar, some comedian plays, ‘when you’re in love with a beautiful woman’ by dr. Hook on the jukebox.😂
Think of your shoulder the next day.
They need to call Morgan & Morgan
@@jasonn6306 bro should really become the new head of Morgan & Morgan advertisement team
yeah, it looks like everyone at the range took one shot for the camera, then didn't see very well out of that eye the next week or so.
This could actually be an extremely effective and economical anti-personnel weapon if done correctly, The increased accuracy of a marksman firing an explosive from a makeshift sniper rifle might lead to a reduction in the need to manufacture artillery shells while maintaining or increasing the kill/wound ratio that anti-personel artillery does.
You can even use this to take out high-profile targets or ammo dumps with high accuracy and have the element of surprise since you wouldn't have as large of a force firing a barrage of mortars at the enemy, you could have 1 or 2 sneak up to or behind enemy lines with this and they could flea after firing more effectively since they'll already start from further away and/or in cover.
"If" is doing a lot of lifting there...
@@wilfdarrIt doesn't seem practical for how American combat doctrine functions as the US Military attempts to minimize casualties. However for the PLA who accept and allow casualties while deploying as much men possible, this weapon can be a very effective tool of war. Americans gotta step their game up, but then again drones are also pretty effective
@@hungedteddy7971 Incidentally, this weapon should be highly effective against drones with a proximity fused grenade.
@@hungedteddy7971 In theory yes, but in actuality, no. Take their UN mission in South Sudan in 2016, where they refused to take any risk while UN aid workers were being... targeted. What China says and what China does are often diametrically opposite.
Artillery is used over way bigger distance (10-35 km), it's only a replacement for antimaterial rifles and light mortars.
Was hoping a big channel would cover this weapon eventually 👍
This weapon could enable any average infantryman to perform the function of a good-enough "sniper", without going through months of sniper school training, & who knows how many hours (& rounds) expended for marksmanship practice. With a long-range, direct fire grenade launcher like this, one could "snipe" an enemy without the need to achieve pinpoint accuracy. The sights partially assist with the aim, & the explosive round compensates for inaccuracy by virtue of the fact that it's an area-of-effect munition. It can't replace real snipers in scenarios where one needs to avoid collateral damage, but having such a system in a unit certainly enhances operational flexibility.
being able to place an accurate grenade at 1km sounds pretty attractive, especially in a fortified position
This weapon system is quite effective against hostiles positioned in the upper levels of a bunker
1000 meters seems ridiculous for a projectile moving at 1300 fps, if you actually manage to hit anything at that distance it will be hitting from above like a mortar
Thank God the Chinese didn't give the Taliban this weapon. Our HMMWVs, MRAPS, Strykers, Towers and almost every OP would be death traps.
@@urcompnioncube0213 Yeah right, thank god the Taliban also didn't have RPG, that weight less than the Chinese grenade sniper and achieve a bigger explosion, otherwise the US vehicles would have been in huge trouble.
Oh wait, they had those in crazy numbers, unguided RPGs aren't expensive and do the exact same thing, but more effectively. And yes, they can hit from more than a kilometer away.
@@gus808 1000 meters is aiming practically straight at the target since this is a direct fire weapon. I think its like 2000 or 3000 if you "arc" it like a mortar.
Then add in the smart rounds for desired effect and it becomes a nasty little postal service for hill to hill action.
IMHO, it does fullfil several roles passably well - as mentioned in the video - with a relatively simple, low-cost solution. It is direct fire - no waiting for the strike to come in - and holds any vehicle less armored than an IFV at risk, can punch through walls and so on. It seems to provide a lot of applications that a squad might encounter without that squad needing additional support from other elements. And grunts can get very creative in the thick of things, having more options to solve current local problems by direct intervention sure is not going to hurt the squads effectiveness.
But you need two guys to carry and operate this thing. That would change the composition of the units.
@@minhducnguyen9276 True. I guess it all about doctrine and availability of support. E.g. US special forces tend to have quite expensive anti-tank because during covert operations, they can't just call in an air strike. In open fields like eastern Europe it might also not be that viable. But thinking of jungle terrain of South America or mountain and hill fighting, it might have quite the utility.
@@tripod222 I guess it also depends on the type of threats you are gonna face and the terrain. If you are not expecting heavy armor you can just leave the atgm at base and bring these instead since it's more versatile. And if you are in urban combat where dedicated marksmen don't have a range advantage over your GL teams then you can replace your marksman with this weapon as it can also clear machine gun nests from a distance instead of only suppressing them.
@@minhducnguyen9276 And more realistically, one soldier carries an AT-4 and the other soldier carries a common grenade launcher, they can still carry their personal weapons, pistol, rifle, ammunition and grenades.
Ready for any situation.
@@noticiasucrania2023 And you can carry more ammunition this way so the economy checked out. Not to mention while it's called a sniper grenade launcher in the video it's more like a machine gun since it can actually fire in automatic mode and the gun crews actually travel with the unit unlike sniper teams who work alone.
making each soldier a potent weapon
Soldier 1: Shoot!
Soldier 2: hold on, my ammo hasn't finished downloading.
"Damn, I had to watch that 2 minute unskipable ad first"
Timed fusing has been around a long time, it’s been in attack helicopters for over 50 years.
Ok... Gotta admit, that's pretty sick. Kinda cool how they gave the US a little shout out in the development history of the rifle considering they definitely didn't have to. Looks like a seriously capable system, especially the round itself. That in a remote controlled turret could cause all kinds of hell.
We now have Bolter.
Now I want some power armor.
Bolter at home, more like
@@TVforyourCats Looks like a Stalker Bolter to me
Russian 6P62 is very closer to Bolter
Absolutely not, bolter is a rocket and gunpowder propelled small APHE round
great stuff Chris
Looks so much like guardsmen with the bolter gun section in 40K...now we just need powered suits to have guys wield them on their own
ive always liked the concept of payload rifles. it feels like the natural progression from anti tank > anti material > payload.
I just don't see a use case where an rpg isn't an equal or better weapon, it's a long range direct fire area weapon, just fire a rocket.
Afaik the only advantage over an RPG is more spare shots, but lethality difference is going to be vast and Chinese soldiers aren't exactly expected to have a long lifespan in combat attacking Taiwan or over the Himalayas.
@@GeneralAdvance there are plenty of advantages over an RPG: more shots as you mentioned, faster follow up shots, longer range, less dangerous (no backblast), higher precision, harder to point in the source of fire.
@@seanforsythe78
Also really small round that you practically have to hit a guy with to do any damage. Completely underwriting.
Meanwhile, a Gustaf can kill a whole squad from 1km away
@@theimmortal4718 of course a rocket is going to be more effective. You know what's even more effective at taking out a group of targets, a 500 pound jdam, but that's not the point of a payload rifle. It's a specialty weapon for a specialty situation, similar to a sniper.
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There's just too many other solutions. A FPV drone for a few hundred dollars, for instance. The weight of this gun is 28 pounds, and each round is a pound. The tripod is necessary for anything long range, and that's a 23 pound monstrosity.
The total package with 40 rounds is about 90 pounds.
Or you could fire a 6 pound loitering munition like the switchblade 300 that can do the same thing at 6 miles without giving away your position
Someone in Chinese defense circles did a playthrough of Mass Effect 3 as an Infiltrator with the Explosive Ammo evolution for Incendiary Ammo and thought, "Hey, this would be a cool weapon in real life."
Except it's a Chinese knock off of mass effect so the ship is called the Xi7
It even sorta looks like the Widow
The qbz 95 design was a reference to the rifles in the AKIRA MANGA
ME1 did it better imo. I modded a high damage sniper rifle with damage mods and explosive ammo for the same effect. 1 shot would overheat it, but it wasn't meant for a high rate of fire
Controlled burst grenades at desired range delivering damages as needed from safe concealed location. As applications for front liners as a suppression system making sweepimg faster.
Ian reviewed a 20mm shoulder-fired auto-cannon that’s really awesome. It’s not in production, but he met w/ the designer in South Africa, and frankly, it should be in production. It’s a direct fire, long recoil compact design (bull pup I think) It’s called the PAW if I remember correctly.
At 3:52, I like how the eyepiece slams into the operator's face.
And a piece of the gun gets launched away from it 😂
@@thebasedspectre3048 That is the empty cartridge case ejected, learn some basic knowledge before writing a comment
that's what the rubber on the scope is for
Its actually not nearly as bad as you think. the rubber scope ring is ribbed so it collapses when recoil to the eye is made but the most jarring part is the air that rushes near your eyes. look at the rpg 7 for example.
Seems like a pretty useful weapon in the right situations. These situations may not be the most common, but I see no particular reason not to have some around for any military that expect to encounter long range combats some times. It's not even an ammo problem as it can use the same ammo as other weapon types. It's also kind of good for longer deployments as it makes each round a bit more effective and longer range.
I was on board with the concept until I saw 10:31. The trajectory is no different from a standard 40mm LV. At that point you might as well just use a regular grenade launcher.
I think it could be very viable as a ship mounted weapon, like a smaller one on a speed boat, like the houthis etc
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj Might as well remove all optics from assault rifles too while you're at it.
@@NeostormXLMAX You cannot shoot a sniper rifle from a speed boat. That is why none have them.
@@toolbaggers lol "assault rifle"
The other reason the XM25 was on the nose was that the explosive ammunition clashes a little with the Geneva Convention (explosive rounds should weigh above 400g). China doesn't seem to have concerns in this regard...
This sounds like a fancy indirect fire weapon, no matter how cool it sounds/looks.
A ~7.7 oz for the entire round (I couldn't find the actual weight of just the round, for obvious reasons I assume) travelling at only 610fps. Just doing a quick conversion of the MOA adjustments puts it off the charts and it is little wonder why they began using a digital scope for the massive adjustments. Long story short, I found a max effective range of 600m BUT this is a great scare tactic ... but not as scary as a MK19 if you ask me
aww yeah, a new Task & Purpose video :D always looking forward to this
Not sure why people are knocking this. This one weapon would give a squad the ability to take out an entire APC or IFV platoon from range. I mean... A 40MM at 1100 yards? Especially considering the different types of ammunition available to the 40MM. Hell for Marines or Airborne this would give "light infantry" the ability to punch above their weight class for MANY targets. This really is a good concept and I wish we had something like this. I mean seriously. Having this on overwatch or for an extended patrol or reconnaissance in force, this idea is perfect. Even against MBTs (older ones), this can be effective for engine shots and even modern MBTs, this can be used to remove sensor equipment and effectively blinding the tank crew....at range. I mean, the Airborne has been crying for the ability to give their light infantry a heavier punch..... Edit. Reading the comments is...... Entertaining. Programmable munitions are not a war crime. It is one of the largest capability advancements us and every other top tiered military has studied, researched and implemented. Besides, the fact that we use cluster and incendiary munitions on a normal basis shows that we went beyond the war crime "red line" a long time ago. I mean. We didn't even sign the agreement we proposed. Lol
Paragraphs dude, this comment hurts my eyes
It’s cool sure but LAW and AT4 do the same things.
Thank you for contributing President Xi 😂
Great points! 👍
@@onesalamanderspacemarine707 only once though
The OICW XM29 never saw full development but was split into two, the XM8 rifle and the XM25. The XM25 (made by Orbital ATK) saw combat in Afghanistan 2010-2013 before one blew up and they’re put on hold for more testing. In 2017 the Army cancelled their contract with ATK and a year later terminated the program. Cons were price, ammo, and weight; each weapon was 30-35k$ with limited ammo carried, and the size & weight made it so a soldier had to swap all of his normal gear to the XM25’s specifically.
I heard it was canceled we remembered it was a war crime. Not sure how true that is though
This is like some crap I would come up with to use in a scifi video game or something, but they've found actual uses for it IRL and actually made it. 🤯
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better to have a grenade launching sniper and not need it, than to not have a grenade launching sniper rifle and need it
I like your non-bias commentary
Out of character for him this time
China, stop giving CoD more OP weapon ideas!
There is a weapon like this in cod mobile
I see it having potential. It's basically a small portable anti-light vehicle and material weapon. It can penetrate up to 70-75mm of steel. So if your squad comes across an IFV or any other light-armored vehicles, it will have no trouble destroying it by launching a couple of them at the vehicle. This weapon is currently exported to some Middle East special operations forces and there's pictures of them being used by operators. Better than carrying around a heavy rocket launcher when you're only expected to face light vehicles and buildings.
I'd immagine this thing is alot more discreet than a rocket launcher, and being semi-auto, it can do correction shots if the first shot misses.
I served in Afghanistan 2 times and i shudder at the thought of WHAT IF the Chinese gave these to the Taliban.
Truly deed bro. Never count for the second shot.
@@urcompnioncube0213the taliban have them now although the americans left already 😂😂😂
@@urcompnioncube0213 Your average Humvee patrol will no longer be average. You may have to hold your breath every trip.
03:52 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the look on his face 😂😂😂😂😂 “MY FVKNG SHOULDER” 😂
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if you ever played Battlefield spamming with grenades launchers, you will know this is the most practical weapon
This actually sounds extremely effective.
Everytime I hear direct fire support, I think back to Band of Brothers numerous scenes of taking fire from a sniper or machine gun nest. With snipers and MGs having increased range and accuracy, I can see the need for a longer range small AOE option. The US plans for the M10 Booker, but a squad scale weapon has some use, especially is long range areas difficult to access by vehicles.
Honestly I'm impressed, this sort of feels like the first kind of innovation from China, as it seems US deployment has seen grenade launchers as more of the indirect firepower. I'd be curious about how American testers would find this useful, especially for alpine/airborne infantry which lack heavy vehicle support. The fact is ideas have to be continuously examined as warfare needs change and evolve.
That said if the XM7 makes widespread adoption, every US Army rifleman will be a designated marksman, potentially outranging this weapon except in urban/jungle warfare, where the size of each could prove a hindrance except in entrenched defenses.
3:52 that recoil seems strong enough to injure the shooter with the scope. Ouch.
And that's why the scope was packing extra rubber for safety
Yeah that looks like it hurts like a biotch and will end up causing most users to have a nasty flinch so they can't hit anything :D
@@leoli2450 Watch them flinching around the 7:30 when shooting it.
7:34 7:40
NGL id be afraid to fire this thing
Thank you.
0:21 that yeets grenades 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The reason we stopped using the xm 25 was that even tho the guys on the ground loved it we realized it was a war crime so idk what china has changed to make it not, larger shells perhaps, because the rounds the xm shot where small enough to be considered exploding bullets not grandes
China could not care any less even so, they violate all international laws all the time
Weight specifically, any projectile under 400g is considered a explosive bullet not a grenade.
The USA goes around the world committing war crimes all the time.. that wasn't the reason.
Not sure China really cares. They aren't a liberal country committed to limiting civilian casualties. The world is dependent on Chinese manufacturing. If they make a move on Taiwan, anyone who could impose sanctions for war crimes will have already sanctioned them for invading.
Like with Russia with their barrel bombs in Syria... The real question is what's the rest of the world going to do about it? The answer is nothing of significance.
Eh, since when has that stopped the Canadians?
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Also combat proven in Iraq and Syria!
Legendary truck! I tried really hard to buy a HiLux last year. The only similar vehicle we can get in North America is the Toyota Tacoma. It like a HiLux but with a little ruggedness traded away for creature comforts. Still, there’s no video of terrorist rebels going around in Tacoma Technicals. We can however get the Nissan Frontier here; a solid choice for budget minded insurgents worldwide, lol. 🇨🇦❤🇿🇦
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You are correct, good sir!
However, he mispronounces stuff to farm people for engagement -- which I don't mind because his content is great and it adds levity.😁
@@user-df5zm4dk1c Can't you bring a left hand drive Hilux in from Mexico or further South?
Depending on the grenade's weight, it could be a war crime based on something from the 1800s about exploding bullets vs ordinance because that killed the XM25 despite the troops loving how effective it was, the grenades were under that limit and were technically exploding bullets
B.S. that would invalidate all grenades, artillery and autocannon ammo like ubiquitous 20mm HE shells. 35mm is not a bullet lol
If it gets the velocity up enough that you can lob the munition across the valley between two mountains, I guess the larger platform and more precise optics could make sense. However, trying to get that sort of range while using a sight with the elevation limitations of a sniper rifle seems like a bit of a waste. Even if you still need a direct line of sight to the target to use this thing, if you had a sighting system that let you elevate the barrel to 30-45 degrees, you could get so much more range out of this thing. As it is, this thing clearly needs to much velocity to get its range that it is big, heavy, and still beats the crap out of the shooter.
The job this gun is trying to do isn't a bad idea, but the choice to go with a low-angle, high-velocity projectile seems like it is going to add a lot of extra weight and recoil compared to a lower velocity round that could be fired from much steeper angles.
It's a genius idea. Imagine a semi automatic recoiless rifle. Even five shots made accurately that fast would be devastating at long range.
Genius Idea on paper and theory and different in war seanario
@dkbros1592 not different if designed and executed properly.
@@gman52712 I can't think of any technological innovation without growing pains.
@supremecaffeine2633 exactly my point. Look at the AR15. They had to work through a lot of mistakes. Look at how they run now.
@gman52712 The difference is that the AR platform has around 70s years to work out the kinks seen service in dozens of conflicts.
This weapon is designed by a country that hasn't seen combat since the Korean War. A country known to cut corners in materials and design to the detriment of their products.
I simply don't trust China's claims on what they say their weapons are capable of because whenever we see it in action, it always falls short.
Honestly this was the fastest I've ever clicked on any youtube notification from ANYONE this one just sounds amazing
It seems like a thing that would be handy to have in a trench war.
Have you guys made a video on Russia's Magazine fed mortar, 2B9 Vasilek and similar weapons?
Another thing worth considering in the counter-sniper role for this weapon is that because it uses an area-of-effect round instead of a conventional slug, you wouldn't need to put the bead directly onto an enemy sniper, assuming that both the sniper and counter-sniper are aware of each-other, the counter-sniper will have a slight advantage because he doesn't have to hit the sniper directly, just anywhere within a few arm-spans of him.
As a lot of Ukraine footage has amply demonstrated, even outside of their effective 1m immediate lethal radius, 30-40mm fragmenting explosives can still grievously injure a fighter enough to cripple his ability to be effective, firing this weapon as a counter-sniper you may not instantly kill an enemy marksman but he'll probably be too busy picking shrapnel out of himself to effectively suppress or kill your buddies.
Something I’d find as a battle pickup in BF4
I can see this system working as an anti-sniper platform , but also as an anti-drone system working with air burst ammo.
There's also a little grey area with international law regarding these kinds of weapons as it is illegal to field weapons that use munitions that explode inside of a human target, and though they aren't explicitly designed to do that, these weapons technically touch on that law.
From what I remember, this law was another one of the many reasons the XM25 was discontinued.
looks cool to me. i love these portable boom thingies. just like i liked the South African grenade rifle. their 20mm Inkuzi Neopup.
i don’t even care if it’s not practical it’s so cool
I think it's already very powerful for a sniper to fight against armored vehicles.
I’ve never heard of a sniper grenade launcher, but that is the coolest thing ever and I want one right now
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Dunno, you can only carry so much per squad. The closed-breech GL is however more energy efficient & economical than a RR or RPG FWIW.
Reminds me of how Soviet platoons could use the Dragunov DMR in place of a machine gun for suppressing enemy positions. Maybe fewer accurate grenades can get a similar effect to an automatic launcher with less weight and ammo.
Less weight? It's 28 pounds, unloaded. Each grenade is half a pound.
With a tripod, it's 51 pounds
I wouldn't call that light
I'm only 30 seconds into this video, and already I'm thinking how cool it would be if Scott tried this thing out on "Kentucky Ballistics". (Except Scott would fire it from the shoulder in a standing offhand position. 😅)
Honestly, not a bad system to use on things like technicals, transport trucks, etc. as you said, way cheaper than a javelin. Would be great for budget conscious countries where those kinds of targets are a concern.
I always found the recoil of shoulder fired weapons very mild and felt I could tolerate a lot more recoil if necessary. However, although there were times when the extra range of the Chinese grenade launcher would have come in useful, its weight would have been unacceptable, as we had to move long distances on foot, in this respect it resembles the Carl Gustave: good if you dont have to carry it far but no good if you do. We carried a lot of weight apart from weapons, so packs needed to be kept to a maximum of 50lb if possible though sometimes they exceeded this.
5:04 ouch
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yeah, that's what i thought...this can't feel good.
I would have thought they'd make a long recoil system to minimise the recoil, I thought wrong. 😁
how about 3:51 ? definately lost that eye :)))
Looks like firing a Lahti.
It's pretty rare and cool to see this. i can see this having many useful uses, and it's my first time hearing something like this
Didn't we, in the West, already have something that functioned similar to this year's ago that was discontinued? The XM25?
To me it’s an intermediate btwn continuous stationary firearms and one shot mobile RPG or m203. It does reload and shoot again much faster than the other but it never fit for individual. I suppose it will eventually get fixed on vehicles(of course need modifications)
It's interesting to hear arguments _for_ the (potential) utility of this. Honestly, I don't care, though. It's just too hilarious and awesome; it deserves to exist.
dude firing the mk19 at 1.23 has the expected facial expression of a dude firing a mk19
My thoughts exactly😁
I wouldn't expect indirect weapons to be very effective in the mountains. This might be just the right compromise between something like an rpg and a normal rifle.