EPIC Australian Engine Battle! - The Ultimate Showdown
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- EPIC Australian Engine Battle! - The Ultimate Showdown
In this video we are comparing these 6 engines in areas like, power, weight, engine range and service locations.
And yes not all of them are produced in Australia, and non of them is produced by Australian owned company, however some of the engines, is only sold to the Australian marked.
In Australia truck drivers are called "truckies" not truckers, and the tractor is called a "prime mover" not a tractor. A tractor in Australia is what a farmer uses to dig up his field to grow his crop.
The steering wheel is on the right side of the truck in Australia, and the engine is “only” required to comply with Euro 5 emission standards
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00:00 Start
00:13
Trucks in Australia
01:15 MACK Mp10
02:37 Cummins X15
03:47 Scania V8
DC16
05:06 Mercedes-Benz
OM 473
06:11 Paccar-MX13
07:40 Volvo D16G
08:49 The Result
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▬▬▬ Credit ▬▬▬
Scania
www.scania.com/
/ scaniagroup
Volvo
www.volvotrucks.com/en-en/
/ volvotrucks
Peterbilt
www.peterbilt.com/
/ peterbiltclasspays
Volvo USA
www.volvotrucks.us/
/ volvotrucksusa
Kenworth
www.kenworth.com/
/ kenworthtruckco
Mercedes-Benz
www.mercedes-benz-trucks.com/
/ mercedesbenztrucksglobal
DAF
/ @daftrucksnv
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@trucktopia Very informative video. Shoutout from south africa 🇿🇦
Australian here. I just want to say is that I’m highly against these new emissions engines. The best engine ever sold here was the Signature 600 Cummins. The X15 isn’t reliable, you have to rebuild them every 500,000kms because they do liners
@@alpharaptor7510 according to my limiterad experience a Volvo d16 (euro6) normallyruns att least 1,2 miljon km before it's time to renovate or sell.
Truck topia - NONE of the Above are the BEST Truck engines.
as BEST ICE Truck engines are only 15 - 25% EFFICIENT , most is wasted ENERGY in form of HEAT , and the Combustion process causes DAMAGE to engine parts , Requiring more than 60% more Maintenance than a BEV Truck.
you Damage your Rig every time you Start it.
and MOST Energy is Wasted while Idling, waiting for your turn.
BEV consumes ZERO power when Idling, and does not have Tailpipe emissions.
the BEST Electric truck motor , is the Tesla PLAID Drivetrain , it can haul 82k Gross UPHILL Faster than any ICE Truck , and it only uses 1.7kwh/mile at Highway speeds , with just ONE Traction motor. it has a Total of 3 Traction motors for Accelerating .
Tesla semi can haul FULL LOAD 82k Gross for 535+ miles.
Tesla motors are 95% Efficient thanks to a SUPERIOR Thermal system & DUAL Heat pumps.
Tesla semi operate with 65% less Maintenance.
they Drive like a Tesla car , can be operated by anyone in 30 min of Training.
There's a long wait for any new Scania V8 in Australia. That in itself speaks volumes....
I am a retired 45 years driver..I have always had the CAT engine then they got me the Cummins! This made me retire!!
What's so good about cat engines?
More torque and power than any Cummins junk
@@jeff0nyschuk670 I drive Scania's leagues ahead of a CAT
I drove E9 V8, and 3208 Macks but the Scania V8 is easily as good or better, actually Mack and Scania V8's have similar development, heads, howeverI think firing order is different.
Mack E9's and Scania 164s out pull any CAT ,be it stock or custom tune. Those two V8s are practically brothers, and both are thirsty as hell😂
As a truck driver in Australia, I can easily say that Cummins and Mack engines are the dominant choice, you will also find a lot of Cat C15's in older trucks
Thanks for sharing 👍
Well Cummins hasn’t been good since the signature 600 days
Considering Mack's are Volvo's, that's odd you don't like the Volvo too.
@@Low760 it's more about the truck around the engine that is suited better to outback conditions
@@bryanfleming9226 good thing that's the majority of Australian trucks run up the east coast or across Melbourne, Sydney etc.
Australians are missing on one of the best and efficient engines, the MAN 16.2L
Dont know about that one.
I don't think they even offer that engine outside of generators and massive farm tractors/machinery. It is an impressive torque monster , however, it's still behind the Volvo d16k in both peak torque AND how low the rpm needed for that torque.(D16k with 3550 nm @950 rpm vs MAN D4276 with 3400 nm @1200rpm)
The Volvo D16G had a 3 power specs, 540 (2650Nm), 600 (2800Nm) and 700hp (3150Nm), but it hasn't been in production for over a decade. It was replaced by the D16K which produces 550 (2800Nm), 650 (3150Nm) and 750hp (3550Nm).
After owning several Scanias, I founds their parts way too expensive and got rid of them, Kenworth with Cummins has given me the best run and I’ve had all the brands except for Mack.
Cummins always good
Fun fact: the suburb of Wacol in Brisbane, where Mack and Volvo have their assembly plants, got its name from the combination of the words "weigh coal" (and is pronounced as such), because it's the place where the coal trains heading to the port would be weighed.
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@@johnnywadd3020 I'm just a man providing interesting facts, why call me gay?
We have experiences and have the SCANIA V - 8 engines in several configuratians end they serve very well. Fuel efficiënt and reliable engines. World wide in long distance and heavy hauling. ❤😊
The video was well done but, the best engine is the one most Truckies put their hard earned money into. There are a lot of fan boys regarding engines, at the end of the day it is a choice for best success for the actual owner. Local dealerships are the real source of "did I make the right choice". The quaility of service from them really drives an owners profit margin not the name on the truck.
Thanks 👍
SCANIA V8-sound and most Power!!
😂 Answer is none of the above...can't beat a Caterpillar
The Mack and Volvo 16.1l are the same motor. The Scania v8 is the winner though, the fact it has nearly 4000nm of torque which is almost double the Cummins, well, that makes it most powerful in a great chassis unlike the Kenworth chassis's. But the x15 is easy to work on and isn't as hard for aftermarket computers to plug in an diagnose. The d13 is better than the paccar 13l in that class, though Scania now have a 3000nm 13l 6 cyl too.
4000nm isnt needed unless youre pulling really heavy loads, most semi in the US cant pull more than 80000lb, so a straight 6 with 2500nm is plenty. Id say more fuel efficient compared to the Scania V8. Latest models of inline 6 can get up to 8-11mpg
@@nipponsuxs well tbh, as of 2024, Scania is still behind Volvo as Volvo has put out the D17K 17.3 liter 780 hp, 3800 NM the size of the pistons is quite absurd
A very interesting and informative vid - Excellent!
Thanks 👍
Will Volvo Australia ever introduce the FH16 750/3550Nm ~ 2618ftlb Engine to Australia?
Great as always. But the climate of Australia is hot and the trucks have problem with warm weather. You must review the trucks for long time and check the engine durability.
I make the Connecting Rod's for the Volvo's up to D17 :D Have also done prototyping for Scania Connecting Rod's.
Scania V8 every day of the week, especially the 770
I like to read the brochures too while I am at the dealer waiting for them to fix my dependable and powerful emissions compliant motor.
No farting in the waiting room whilst your government designed motor is being re-assembled. It's against regs
V 8 770 i say no more
The Metro-Liner does not use a Mack engine - it has a Cummins ISLe5
In Europe it´s common to buy a truck that has a great service station close to where you haul your goods. I know a truck company with about 50 trucks that started to buy another brand when their local workshop was sold and got worse.
The scania engies is today also made of compact grafite iron. Sins o couple of years.
Thanks for sharing 👍
@@TruckTropia ♥️♥️♥️
For my choice, Scania have the better, quieter motors on the market. Proved this to a Mac salesman about 15 years ago. He took me in a cab chassis 8 X 4 truck for a drive. He got caught in a newer subdivision; not able to get around a corner, and had to back out! I noted that the cabin noise was louder than my old girl. When we got back to the yard, I offered to take the sales rep for a lap of the block. With the windows up, my 1977 truck was quieter than the 2008 Mack! He also could not get over the grunt as was loaded, grossing 28.5 tonne.
A few years earlier, come out of a yard in the HIlls. Company truck went out behind me, gross of 42.5 tonne. I was at 33.5 tonne. Company truck was a Sterling, Cummins 460 hp. Mine, Scania, 296 hp. Got away from him on the first climb. Over the top, my practice is to ride the exhaust brake, running up to top speed of 85 km/h. Company truck went past me, leaving me in his dust. Company truck had a 1 km lead on me going onto Germantown Hill, a 2.5 km climb at 6%. I kept at it, and got past him about 1 km from the summit of the climb! Due to the low gearing, the old truck could and often did climb walls! Much to the annoyance of the flashy truck owners!!!
The scania V8 for sure
As long as the engine block is yellow you're good
Trucks in Australia more vital compare the others countries bcs they don't have proper railways track
We do but they were defunded decades ago.
Cummins is the real champion 🏆💪🏾😀
I agree. Cummins is truly the best of the best.
@@hollis3853 Here in the Canadian North they have a legendary reputation for reliability, durability and relative ease of maintenance.
Mack V8 thumper from the seventies my favorite....92 series 430 Detroit a close second..... hey hey hey from the USA my down under Brothers. Stay healthy safe travels 🥾
Mack V8 was more or less the same engine as the Scania V8, Scania and Mack has worked together since the 1960’s, but Volvo put a stop to that when they bought Mack.
Scania for life... I will leave USA to work heavy haul on Scania Longhorn extended sleeper lease to own...😊
I've never seen a torsional damper on a camshaft.
It's a small detail, but I'm curious about how quiet it is.
They aren't!
Wait... the 750 hp 3500 Nm variant of the Volvo D16 isn't available in Australia?
THANK YOU FOR VIDEO AS GREAT
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SCANIA V8
They were better in the 80s
@@alpharaptor7510 I agree and they sounded better, I was conscript chief engineer on a Swedish UDT vessel, the main engine Scania v8 14L was in stalled in the 80s
The X15 is the Boss Hog. 10-4???? "I'm back quiet"
Cummins have a huge network of service locations and their engines are generally easy to work on, two desirable qualities in remote areas.
Scania has the most powerful, reliable and fuel-efficient engine.
Incredible machine!
the Cummins Signature was the best Cummins Motor
SERIES 60 DETROIT💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Make video on most durable and reliable truck brand of each country.
How much weight of scania v8 engine?????????
Please 🙏tell me.......
Could you make a clip about truck companies break capabilities in an accident or in a bad weather
Of course the best ever engines are a CAT and SCANIA V8
Is it true that there are trucks there running with a cummins K19 engine in them? Didn't realize an X15 had enough Horsepower to pull a roadtrain? Do you have to run aftertreatment to meet emmissions like here in the states?
Yeah mate, some kenworths have the qsk 19 but theyre usually custom made for off highway use on mines ect, but im no expert
The Mack engines are from Volvo but painted red.
Well, yes and no. The Mack engines use their own turbo and ECUs.
- Fun fact; A lot of older Mack trucks used Scania inline 6 engines, and Scania's original 14.2 V8 was built with a Mack V8 block.
- We shipped a 1976 R-model Mack to Tanzania from our shop last year. The hood was stuck shut, but when we fired it up it sounded (and smelled!) like and old Scania 110! It had a Mack 10 speed behind the Scania.
- Back in the late forties Scania didn't have any integrated buses ( buses without a hood/bonnet), so Scania was licensed to build Mack Metropolitan/Cosmopolitan buses for the European market, and in return, Scania supplied Mack with modern direct injected. turbo charged diesel engines, that Mack didn't have at the time.
@@matslanden4388 can you provide a source for this?
Yep that’s true
@@matslanden4388 the V8 Mack is a Scania
@@laiderilex5370 Scania needed a motor that was more than what they had offered back in the day and because they (Scania) had already supplied Mack with the DS8, it was the natural choice for Scania to collaborate with Mack on a brand new engine. The 14L block was casted @ Mack Trucks, then shipped to Sodertalje for final assembly. Scania had issues in the beginning because the block was set up for SAE fasteners, not Metric, therefore Scania had to kinda "figure" it out for themselves, which they did.
Low and behold the DS14 was born with a 350hp rating, while Mack Trucks had the ENDT866 rated @ 325hp. The only difference between both engines are the internals and the cylinder heads. Scania used individual cylinder heads, 8 in total, while Mack Trucks use a total of 4 cylinder heads covering 2 cylinder banks per head.
Scania kept with the DS14 for quite awhile longer, while Mack developed a brand new V8 motor, the E9, a 998cid block (16.1L) with ratings up to 500hp (North American specs).
Years later, The Australians then got ahold of the motor and pumped it up to 610hp (EA9-610), which was not only the highest rated V8 over 600hp at the time, but was also electronically controlled as well.
The kicker to all of this is, Scania collaborated with Mack, also supplied Mack with engines, many years later got bought out by Scania's arch rival, AB Volvo...
This is why you no longer see a V8 underneath the bonnet of a newer Mack Truck this very day.
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No Caterpillar in the showdown?
Mack MP10 is just a depowered Volvo D16K😢
Is the Volvo actually lighter than the PACCAR ? I notice that it has an extra point in the dry weight category.
I am highly skeptical about that😂
Volvos are known for a lot of things, lightweight isn't one of em😂
CAT good for going up hills
Cummins good for going down Hills
GM's (Detroit) good for Fuel
Mack good for Fuel and go going down hills
V8's good for going Up hills
So what do Americans call tractors for Farming?
Also as someone who works for a PACCAR Agent in the Midwest of Western Australia, We see very little in the way of Paccar engines, Most of the C509, and T909 are all X15 Powered. Also, no Peterbilts in AUS unless they were imported from the states. Can't view their build sheets and PACCAR Australia won't offer any support for them. On that note currently trying to source diff parts for a Canadian Import C500, So If any Canadian PACCAR Employees can offer a build sheet or microfiche please hit me up.
Tractor trailer in usa is a truck
@@rotemtomhagbi1937 yeah but what is a farm tractor in the field? Is it also a tractor?
In France a tractor is the term we use for farming machine too
@@serafiswulfz just tractor,
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I know what a cab over truck is but I'd never heard of a bonde truck, now I've heard of bonded shipments Which are shipments that transfer from one country to another country by way of the middleman country That you have to pass through to get to the Country of the final destination.
I think his script was meant to say 'Bonneted' having what Americans call a 'Hood'.
MACK DIESEL POWER
Where's the 18 litre Mack engine in this list?? Or the 1150 Cummins QSK ?????
Shame the D13 Volvo didnt get a mention. The little brother of the D16g. Majority of east coast 62T Volvo doubles run that engine in a 540hp spec.
The best of VOLVO engines is the D16 with 540HP ,because it s not pressed for power,has lower emissions,and runs good without issues.
Just wanted to choose each brands biggest engine 😅 Els to many engines to mention
@@mitsosmirmigas5478 D16 is 550 hp
The Scania V8 is a superb engine.
@@hejamodo i used to drive one for 5 years. It s the FH facelift cabin of the previous shape. It s FH 16 54O,and it s not constructed any more.
2024 VOLVO FI6 780🤫
You read those corporate pamphlets pretty nicely 😅
There isn’t one best engine….. Different engines are more suited to different situations.
GOOD DAY FIRST. 0 KM IN AMERICA. 13 LITER. 6 CYLINDER.400-450 HP. ONLY HOW MUCH IS THE TIR ENGINE PRICE? THANKS.
What about the Detroit???????DD16
Mercedes Benz engine 471
What voice over do you use?
Its a real person
mad in Sweden 🚛
What are the “Australian conditions?”
Hot and dirty
@@TruckTropiadon't forget half the fun is off road corragations.
Ummmmm peterbuilts are not sold in Australia there a private import 🤦♂️
What of the MAN D38? I guess MAN engine is preferred chassis and engine for coaches in Australia.
Preferred? No. Cheaper than everyone else? Yes.
Can you guys not just bounce between units lol. Maybe just subtitle in the metric units while talking, goes from hp and ft lbs to hp and nm lol . Plus its a aussie vid and no mention of tonnes
Wtf cummins and mack ahead of mercedes and daf? The paccar engine is from daf. Missing MAN.
Are they available in Australia?
@@hejamodo yes
All euro trucks are bad here. The fall apart
@@alpharaptor7510 Seen a few Volvos on fire in summertimes
@@S3pra seen enough Kenworths on fire.
Cummins
😂🤣😂 Great video but as an Aussie who’s lived in the outback good luck getting EV trucks replacing diesels specially when you look at a very large percentage of roads being dirt, the rainy season and the fact that the red dirt in the outback gets into everywhere and would kill an EV battery in no time. Also remember EVs aren’t really designed for towing as they become overly inefficient. You’d also have the fact that a lot of isolated communities and even cattle stations can be several hundred or even thousands of kilometres apart so there won’t be the infrastructure or even the power supply to recharge trucks.
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It is ALUMINIUM. Not how you say it.
Not all those engines are available in the USA. I would love a Mack MP10 or a Detroit DD16.
the mp10 was available in the mack titan but the dd16 is available
The MP10 used to be available in the United States but 2016 was the last year in was available on the North American market. The Detroit DD16 is available in the USA
Be nice to have a CAT C-18 again though.
Next can be about Europe like that video?
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@@TruckTropia I would have liked to see Renault, DAF and Iveco compared as well.
What about Detroit
The DD series engine are Mercedes engines with the Detroit stickers on them. The last good one was the Series 60
lol with drip catch cans as essential. Great sound though.
Er du Dansker?
Never in a fix with a straight six , Cummins engine any day 👌🏴
Yes... Cummins is the best.
They are dependable engines that are also serviceable (on the rare occasions that they need servicing) and supported by an extensive dealership network (Cummins are active in 190 countries).
And two stroke detroit diesel to wake up the kangaroos
Waycol pronounced. (Weigh col)
Wacol
@@kevinarchbold3704 Yeah Kev I got ahead of myself in the pronunciation, been through the assembly plant, Volvo on one line and Mack on the line next to it.
Mack E6 motor is most reliable, always has been, always will be!! No other truck engine will compare.
Volvo is the best, that's it!
After Scania
No Caterpillar engine?
They dont produce Truck engines anymore: czcams.com/video/nuE_UrVCLfY/video.html
@@TruckTropia yes, i mean... even used Cat engine, no one interested to swap with it?
DONT FORGET CHA MASK MATE
They give us all a lot of crap about engines, I believe, but then again , many will not agree with me of course.
Where is Caterpillar ?? omg 😢
So why was cat skipped?
They were the worst.
Because CAT dropped out of the Truck ENGINE market. They knew the the DEF systems would be too costly for the firs 10 years. Turns out they where right after 16 plus years the DEF systems are still prone to breakdowns and not ready for primetime. Who’s laughing now!
C16 is a great mtr not made in usa but a tough enginre
Scania all the way for Power and Reliability,the Cummins engined vehicles I have driven have been nowhere near as reliable as the Scania V8, Cummins are good but in my experience not a patch on Scania,reliability comes standard brilliant vehicle.
Correction*
1. Scania
2. Volvo
3. Mercedes and Man.
4. Paccar and Mack (volvo)
5. Cummins
There’s a reason why Kenworth are the best selling trucks in Australia despite being the most expensive…
@@S3pra Apple is the best seller in the United States, being the most expensive and not for that reason it is the best product... Mainly it is custom, Australians have grown up on kw and mack, it is normal for new products to take longer to succeed.
@@stark3855 Volvo trucks have been in Australia since 1972… they are not new here
@@S3pra How long has mack and kenworth been around? I think that with that you can answer yourself.
@@stark3855 Kenworth since 1971, Mack since 1963. Before them most of the trucks we had were British exports like Foden, Atkinson, and Leylands
Tractors
Funny thing is Mack was sold to Volvo
I am a truck driver and the best engine by far is the VICTA
Bit of powertorque action!
We run KW with X15 performance engine and a partner company that runs with us has volvo and scania. Weight for weight the KW will climb hills better and on an Adelaide to Melbourne trip the KW will arrive between 15-20 earlier. I driven both other euro trash and their 700+ advertised Hp is not 700hp. I think their 700hp is Shetland ponies while the 600 in the X15 are the proper ponies aka mustang ones. Oh and KW don’t catch fire like the Volvos do. Come to think of it our old N14plus give the euro trash a run for their money.
hit them like a kenworth, they say.
Thanks for sharing 👍👍
The reality is you're probably changing manually with 18 gears on the kw and the Scania or Volvo is auto shifting with 12. They can't fake the HP and torque claims, they just run less gears. If you put a 12 speed on the x15, the Volvo and Scania kill them. Also you're safer in a crash or not having one in the first place with the disc brake European trucks.
@IThinkAnAdsComing and expensive when it goes poopie.
@IThinkAnAdsComing We are all Cabover KW ‘s except for a lone CF DAF rigid. Long wheel base pantech with a lazy axle. She does the night runs and electrically we have had our problems. Alternator failure. Alternator main fuse. Serpentine belts shredding, ESC fault when it rains, Airbags forget to raise and then randomly just lower for no reason??????. The funniest issue it has is when the LED light bars are turned on the cruise control drops out. Turn off the light bars and just use high beam , that’s not an issue. Use light bars and the accelerator pedal goes dead. We have tried everything to cure the high beam issue , independent relays, second sets of batteries, remote switches. The only thing we can come up with is the RF from the light bars interferes with the canbus system. Low coolant ,when it’s full. Low oil when it’s full, cruise control activates and works perfectly one trip turn the key and the engine won’t crank. Reverse light refuse to work if the washer is fitted to the reverse switch.Then again she has done 1.8 million Km on the original engine , gearbox clutch and diff . Had to replace a complete tailshaft assembly because the original was bent . One set of pads and rotors all round , no suspension work . The mechanics love servicing it as there is only 4 grease nipples. Besides the electrical gremlins , she has been a solid bus. We may go for a XF this time .
THAT WOULD BE THE BEST ENGINE FOR AUSTRALIAN APPLICATIONS!!.. Wrong title!
We call truck tractors a horse in Namibia
We call them farm tractors.
Wacol pronounced way col
Macks are produced in Waay coll Wacol not Whackole, the AI pronunciations are way off on most new vids'
Well no IA VoiceOver Here
4All these engines prove one thing. Engine designers are like donkeys going along the same track. They have no imagination. The internal combustion engine was finished fifty yers ago. All they can do is prop up some system and turn it into a scrap iron jungle so complicated they have forgotten what they are doing. A Mercedes with an eight speed auto transmission that probably costs more than the engine to build. Steamers wouldn't need a transmission up to ten tons..Ted pritchard was the gutsiest guy I have ever known. He told the world where they were going wrong and they couldn't handle it. Australia let him down. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
The Cummins Turbo diesel is the best Diesel powered Truck engine of all time...
And my favorite.
I believe CAT is, or was lol.
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Australian here. I just want to say is that I’m highly against these new emissions engines. The best engine ever sold here was the Signature 600 Cummins. The X15 isn’t reliable, you have to rebuild them every 500,000kms because they do liners
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@@TruckTropiait’s true tho lol
Anything after 2007 is a piece of shit ! 600 signatures, driven some Detroit's series 60 14ltr tickled up that went very hard ! Driven a c15 tickled also went hard. Signature engine brake was superior.
Ah the old, emissions sucks. Said by someone who doesn't understand why it's there or cares. As a Diesel mechanic, I prefer them, way more tech yes, but I'm not doing fuel pumps and injectors like I used to do on mechanical injected motors.
@@Low760 can you throw in some bigger injectors and turn that pump up please mechanic ! Good old days !
CAT C16 just left the chat
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Scania the bhest