What Are The Best Diesel Engines Ever?
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- As you guys might've noticed, we've made a lot of different videos about diesel engines. At the end of the day, there are a lot of really cool engines out there, but some of them are better than others, and because of that I wanted to make a list of what I consider to be the best diesel engines of all time.
Keep in mind, this list isn't in really any particular order, because quite frankly I don't think it's fair to outright claim one diesel as the best of all of them, because they all have pros and cons and some are better at specific tasks than others.
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Hey can you please do a video on the 2jz fse ive never heard of this version before and i would like to know more about it
1.9 ahu vw Tdi.
Ok thanks for the mention
plz tell best diesel engine reliability and fuel efficiency wise for SUV...
Which of these can be used to run biodiesel?
What if you do a follow up video about the best engines on sale right now?
I worked at International's Melrose Park Works for years where the DT466 engine was produced. It was rare for one to fail the final RPM testing. I over saw many aspects of it's manufacture and can assure anyone that it was originally as bullet proof as they came. Original Crankshafts were forged, hardened, then straightened before grinding. I knew the straightening operators well and asked one to push the bending operation to the limit just to see if the crank could be broken, he did, and no dice. That crank would not break even when bent to a ridiculous angle over and over again! Talk about tough. Towards the end of production they switched to a casting. It was easy to break one even if the operator didn't try. The EPA basically killed the DT466. To keep costs down International had to look for cheaper alternatives in many components. The fuel injection system became a nightmare. It was called "The Legend" during it's heyday. I had my picture taken with the last DT466 Block machined on 5-13-1993! I loved your presentation. Thanks.
Sometimes I get to drive a little 1982 International 5 yd dumptruck for work with the DT466. It's only 180 horse, but it's got boatloads of torque and is geared perfectly with a 5 spd transmission and a 2 speed rear end. What a great little truck and fun to drive.
Legend.
When are Americans gonna do something about that EPA? When you're all choking on battery smoke?
This is a US available list pretty much. Missed the Nissan TD27, TD 42, Toyota 1HZ, Mercs OM606, Isuzu 4JJ1 and so many more 4 and 6 cyl diesel that are very reliable
Well ya know. Since it’s a US channel and a US based platform. You’re more than welcome to make one though and put it on this US based platform though.
@@specforged5651 You must be fun to talk too.
Isuzu 4j1
1gd are reliable also
@@stevenwilliams2056 nah the kd series was more reliable. The gd is good when used with good fuel, but it falls apart on industrial diesel.
1. 7.3L powerstroke
2. 12V Cummins
3. LBZ duramax
Not even close. They're all throwaway motors. A proper top 3 would be:
1. Mack E7 mechanical
2. Caterpillar 3406B
3. Detroit 8V71
@@daltonbrink9924 I'm not that familiar with those engines to have a proper opinion on them hence why none of them are in my top 3. Hard to judge something you don't know much about.
Since you were speaking of Inline-6, light duty diesels, and mechanical injection; when I put all three of those things together I get the Mercedes OM606
Seriously, the 606 is amazing in its output and reliability. I currently have a 606, 602, 1.9 and 2.0 TDI, and all should make the list for passenger vehicle diesel heroes.
Fortunately, reliability was not included or anything by Mercedes would not get a look in.
@@stevendouglas6593 om606 is one of the most reliable engine ever made
@@stevendouglas6593 clearly you are not talking about Diesels.
OM stands for Diesel! OM = Ölmotor (Oil Engine)
I am glad you started with the International DT466. I am a fleet mechanic for a public utility, the majority of our manlifts and digger trucks are powered by the DT and have been for many years. Most are low mileage but have a lot of hours since they merely drive to a jobsite and idle all day to drive the PTO.
Everything you said is true, the base engine is the best, hands down. One Navistar was forced to add EGR cooling and aftertreatment systems it ruined the DT. Especially here in the California desert where it gets to 115F for weeks at a time. And since our trucks idle all day, the aftertreatment systems never get a chance to burn off.
It pisses me off when a cherry mechanic fresh out of trade school hires on and complains about what a POS the DT is. Every problem we have with the engine is caused by the EGR cooling or aftertreatment. The newbies can't seem to understand that.
Young tech's that came along after electronics and egr emissions.saw completely different engines that what they once were.hurry up and throw all this stuff on them and then let the customer and company pay to make it work,on some it didnt.thanks EPA.we need to clean up environment but give company's time to get this stuff ironed out and working.
I disagree. It's the EPA that needs to be trashed, and permanently !@@mikewarpula911
I love the air cooled deutz engines. There was a 5cyl available in the U.S for a short time in some gm trucks, and IVECO vans
The Detroit 6-71, aka "The Screaming Jimmy". I think that engine should have its own video. Not because it was a 2 Stroke, but because it was put in everything!
Peterbilt
Kenworth
Brockway
Autocar
White
Diamond T
International
Mack
GMC
Chevrolet
Ford
Dodge
Allis Chalmers Dozers
Fiat Dozers
Insley Excavators
Chamberlain Tractors
John Deere Tractors
Water Pumps
Generators
Terex Loaders and Bulldozer
The list goes on! While not Detroit's most powerful, and packaging was not the best...but it was their most versatile, used, loved and recognized engine in the industry.
Oliver Tractors, M4A2 Sherman Tank, M10 Tank Destroyer, Higgins LCVP, LST, & LCI landing craft, Valentine Mk IV-IX Tank, thousands of buses and thousands of trawlers and yachts
GM buses
Best two light duty diesels are probably the 7.3 powerstroke and the 12 valve Cummins. Although, Personally I prefer the 12 valves because mechanical simplicity. Medium duty, the CAT 3126’s are very good, and the DT-466P’s are outstanding. The 3406B CAT’s are great, the Gen 3 855 big cams are phenomenal, and the 2 stroke Detroit’s are very good and the roar of them makes them perhaps the best sounding engine ever…that’s what I like to tell the 6.0 and the 6.4 powerstroke guys when they’re like ‘yeah, they’re unreliable and plagued with emissions and poorly designed…but they sound the best!’ And I say ‘ever heard a 2 stroke Detroit?’ Then they go cry themselves to sleep cause I just took away the only thing they had going for them.
the only one I would add is a c15 but spot on
12V71
The Defence rests
477 HP, 1251 lb-ft with NO turbo.
Add 14 psi boost, and you get 931 HP and 2440 lb-ft
@@markdubois4882 that is REALLY hard to argue against
I love Detroit’s, but nobody will ever get to hear them, so my 6.0 will be what they hear, lol. A well-sorted daily 6.0 is more powerful, more responsive, faster, pulls harder, more efficient than a 7.3 or 5.9 and dang nearly just as reliable - which is reliable enough for me. So no, I’m not crying at night.
The two strokes where known as screaming memmies and you could hear them coming a mile away. They also had a very bad history of "running away" and gernading before you could get them shut down using the oh Jesus handle. I had two blow up both 318 Detroits.
- Pretty much all VW PD diesels
- BMW M57 engine series
- Mercedes OM606
- Scania DC16 just for the sheer power and torque it makes
- fiat 1.9jtd
- mercedes 2.1 diesel
- not a road car but deserves an honerable mention: peugeot 908. 5.5L TT v12 diesel with 730hp and 890ft lbs of torque in a 900kg car...
Love the 908
1.9 alh tdi for sheer reliability
Hey! Never seen your channel before but this caught my eye in my fyp, and on your regards of the internation DT466 I can say whole heartedly that they're my favorite in this list, I've never seen a diesel engine that's so easy to make so much power without any worry of it breaking, at it took for me and my uncle to tune up an international loadstar he had was some new injectors and governor removal, wild engines indeed
The Rock Quarry I used to work at had an entire fleet of quarry trucks with the Cat C27 engines in them. A few of them had over 25,000 hours on the original engine. I realize that’s probably quite a bit larger than anything on your list but I still think it’s an awesome engine.
@@allthingsgoodcomefromhim965a lot of the ones we have at my job have over 42,000 hours. Longest running currently is a Kobata v330 with a bit over 48,000
@@marshallhunter9446Kubota engines are TANKS
How bout those Air Deutz engines. I've seen those work in underground hardrock mining operations where the ambient rock temp was probably 120-130*F and those things were tough. The Detroit diesel and Mercedes engines were around but the Air Deutz ran hotter and seemed to tolerate those awful conditions better. I'm also thinking that having the independent removable cylinders is also a plus
the air deutz are the best starting diesel on very cold winter conditions.
5.9 Cummins is my #1
I've been doing some research on Alis-Chalmers engines. I ran a 301 as a teen and I was impressed with the smoothness, quietness and fuel economy. Very hard to find a lot of info on them ie Wikipedia.
great video! I sure did like how you mentioned the 1.9 TDI from VW. had one for a long time and super reliable. Also to add was the Mercedes that was put in the 07-09 jeep Grand Cherokee.
The DT466 was originally a farm tractor engine that was repurposed as a truck engine. The one good diesel that International made. Pretty much bulletproof.
The one good one? Ive never heard such naivety before, at worst they had 2-3 that were just bad, like the 9.0L, with even the vt365 having some redeeming qualities. They have several well known and loved diesels like the dt360 and t444e.
The International 6.9 IDI would like to have a word with you.
@@GSKYYT you ain't wrong! Slave Lake anyone?
I think you made a pretty good list. Glad you put the 60 Series Detroit on there. I'm not a Detroit fan, but even i admit that engine was very influential.
I know this is way out of your subject here, but I own a '11 BMW 335d with M57 3.0L I6 biturbo engine with 425 ft-lb torque @1,750 rpm and 265 hp. That powerplant in a little 4dr compact sedan is an insane combination stock. Apparently, it's super responsive to quick, cheap chip tuning, too.
I highly agree. I have a 2011 335d and it's fantastic. Great mileage and with the emissions stuff taken off it should last a very very long time.
The DT466 was still a great engine with electronics as the DT466e. It was when it became the Maxxforce and had emissions equipment that it was ruined. I read somewhere that it was them manufactured at a different location, had different metallurgy, and had more valves.
We had a 98 Navistar jet fuel truck (can’t remember the model) w/DT466E at a previous job, over 60K hours on it when I left 4 years ago and the only time the engine had been opened up was to replace cam & lifters after a lifter retainer broke and the roller lifter turned in its bore. The biggest problem with the electronics was the pins & sockets in the ECM & plugs. Any time it started acting up we’d spend half a day replacing pins in the plugs and it’d be OK for another year or 2.
Worked on a fishing boat that had a 671 Detroit diesel. It ran endlessly. Loved that engine.
you should be deaf then listening to that screaming thing.
There should be a documentary series on Detroit 2 stroke diesels. With hundreds more parts in them compared to typical inline 6 4 stroke and still be reliable, a marvel of engineering . They must have been fitted to more machines than nearly any other engine series or manufacturer in history.
what parts are those? apart from the blower i can't think of anything that contains "hundreds more parts" that are not present in every other diesel engine. the 6-71 is an incredibly straight forward engine.
They had many great V series engines. Some were multiple engine blocks put together with multiple blowers and turbos. Unit injectors, governors with mechanical linkages to tie everything together. 4 valve heads, 4 accessory drive locations, including the back of the engine. I think to do all of that, be the first to do it with decades of success means something.
@@onetireonfire2777 poor torque at low rpm, very uneconomical and very loud. Id take a 4 stroke john deere, cummins, scania or volvo any day
But it’s as reliable as the day is long, that’s the beauty of it. You can’t say that about many modern diesels. I believe that trumps the powerband or how loud it is.
@@onetireonfire2777 We ran 6-71 gensets for years in a lot of our tugs, they were loud used oil like it was free but we're reliable as an anvil.
By comparison, they were replaced with electronic John Deere 6068 gens; nice engines, good on fuel, but oh boy, lose a sensor and she might shut down on you! No bueno!
Class 8........Caterpillar 3406B, C, E, C15 ( 6NZ ), Detroit Diesel 53, 71, 92 Series, Series 60; Cummins B Series, Cummins 855ci based engines ( Small Cam, Big Cam, N14 )
8v92 and c15 have my heart lmao
@@sae4071 the 8V92TA stole my heart and got me into trucking. It was in the early 80s, and in a doublewide KW K100 with an Allison auto...beautiful truck.
@@hoost3056 sounds amazing I was never around for those but my dad has a c15 in an 05 pete black and chrome. Just hit 2 million miles not too long ago and wow to this the start ups are gorgeous
@@sae4071 Ive had Cummins products primarily ( 5.9 in a Dodge, a Big Cam 400hp, and two N14s ), a Volvo VED12 non emission, a B model Cat and a couple of 7.3 Powerstrokes. The 6.7 Powerstroke pulled my loaded goose neck like it wasn't there, it was an '18 model in a F350 dually. Least favorite by far is the Cummins ISX.
@@hoost3056 yea I love a 7.3 but the 6.7 is a monster that can be tuned beyond belief I love cummins but was never around one usually 60series detroits and c15s
Not a bad list. I’ve run and worked on everything on the list, our JD 466s will be running for years. The 619 is best sitting on the iron pile with a Cummins repower in its place.
Its a great motor when paired with a proper size radiator and allowed enough air flow to keep it cool
I was so happy when you mentioned the Mack E7 in your honourable mentions. I have worked on many different engines, but the E7 has proven to be one of the most indestructible engines. Not much power, but they run forever. I have worked in a fleet with Mack garbage trucks with over a million city miles and still start and run flawlessly.
I cut my teeth for heavy hauling on a ch model mack with an Bosch injected E7 with a 9 spd maxitorque. That truck was abused to now end and took it all in stride
And the E9 was a fabulous motor!
I have a e7 tore down at work right now.
E7s and EM7s with the P pump are as good as an engine gets imo. We have an RD with an EM7-300 with 30k hours on it and even in the winter it cranks right to life. The only engine I have around that starts better is an ancient 6bt in a Komatsu Dresser loader. That thing fires after not even 2 full rotations no matter what temp. 😅
Maxidyne high torque rise engine introduced in 1967. At the time one of the biggest innovations in diesel engine engineering.
466E was not ruined by electronics, they both use the HUEI system and cat and international developed it. The 466E was ruined by the emission like with the CATS
Basically learned how drive standard in a 2005 International 7300 dump truck with a DT466 the other day at my trade school. Definitely a nice engine from what I have experienced.
first video from this channel...great stuff.... great he-man narration voice too - bet the ladies love it! 👍
Great vid... covered a LOT of ground. You mentioned the VW TDI. I had an Audi A3 rental car once in Germany that did about 225 Km/H (~135 mph) on the Autobahn turning a bit over 4000 rpm... amazing. Another light diesel I would nominate: BMW's first two stage (sequential) 3.0 L inling 6 that was rated at 270 to 300 HP depending on year and market. The one I drove was in a 2007 German spec 5-series sedan weighing in around 4000 lb. Redline was 5000 rpm and it could do 0-60 in 6 seconds flat. Too bad that emission regs made those diesels un-attractive economically for the US market after ~2011.
Mercedes Benz OM606
MWM Sprint 6 cylinders
Volvo D5244T4
Mercedes Benz OM617
Tatra V8 / AirCooled / T3-928
Deutz - AirCooled
You missed som great smaller diesel engines, for example Mercedes.
6 cylinder OM603 and OM606.
5 cylinder OM617, OM602, OM662 and OM605.
These engines are legendary for their reliability, durability, multi fuel capability and tuning ability.
Toss in the OM616 too
@@bobbbobb4663 Sure, I'm not a fan of 4 cylinder engines. But the 616, 601 and 604 are of course built to the same standards as the 5 and 6 cylinder counterparts.
My E320 CDI gets 47 to 41 (winter) mpg. I6
OM352 and OM314 are truly nice too have. Did good when it was in commercial use.
OM613 best inline 6 for any passenger car. Amazing mechanical capability and economic. Still a common rail but with low pressure compared to today’s standard and oversized hpfp. Not emission system and oversized exhaust.
They do not break
Excellent review of engines.
The 1.9L ALH and the 1.9L BEW are some of my favorite engines, I also love Toyotas 1KZ, all great inline 4.
In what car and year I can find this engine
the 1.9L ALH is in the 1999-2003 Volkswagen Golfs and Jetta's, with the 1.9L BEW only coming in the 2004 model of the car. the ALH and BEW are practically the same engine, with differences in electronics. the 1kz was a engine use in Toyota trucks and SUV's from 1995 to 2003.@@madebydade305ify
When you look at small capacity diesels the Fiat 16 valve 1.3 JTD has to be in there. It’s an amazing layer construction and very strongly built. It’s weak point is the cam chain. BUT the valves rockers are sacrificial so easily replaced along with new cam chain.
GOOD GOD...! What a glorious sound.....and to think, I was considering a battery powered Tesla truck. Thanks for pointing me back in the right direction.
You should do a video on the Perkins 354 5.8l diesel. Supposedly a great engine. The Ford Genisis is also a study
Where is 1.9 TDI?
I love the 71 series Detroit my favorite pickup engine being the 7.3 powersmoke
The 3406 was probably the most innovative but the 6NZ was their best beast.
The pre-DPF ISX I had was phenomenal.
But I always wanted one of those Scanias with the V8
Deutz FL (aircooled) engines, from 1 Cylinder up to 12 Cylinder V12!
The OM617 is underrated but everyone wants to flex a OM606. But I like the supercharged 2 stroke Detroit in a ol K whopper or the 2L series in the hilux
great info on diesels -Thanks !! am looking at a 1997 Thompson school bus with the 5.9L with 180K miles - will use as a conversion to RV
I’m shocked you didn’t mention the GM 2 stroke diesels for a small high speed engine the 6-71N is just about impossible to beat. And for a larger medium speed the 567, 645, and 710 EMDs are just about the best diesels ever built. Worked on a 16-645 that had more then 200,000 hours on her and had never been rebuilt to the best of my knowledge! Don’t get me wrong it had its power assemblies changed numerous times along with rod and main bearings, but the crank had never been out and no machine work had ever been done. Power assemblies and bearings are maintenance not an overhaul.
Idk if you meant hrs, miles, or kilometers. 200k hours is like 20+ years dude. Not saying your wrong but idk any engine ever that can run longer than I've been alive without rebuild
DD 2strokes are fuel guzzling, polluting has beens. Yes powerful and reliable
@@curtisstunts_3145 with EMDs, engine life can easily be measured in decades.
I’d have to say the 354 Perkins should be on it. They built a lot of them back in the day and they work great.
The Perkins 152 is too small for this list but it's a good one. The Kubota and Yanmar diesels are good too for smaller applications
I don't know much about them, but I did hear the name a lot and saw a few stuffed in pickups. Always heard what good engines they were.
@@MaxNafeHorsemanship they were used in tractors quite a bit. We have two of them with the 354 and both are about as trouble free as an engine can be.
@@karlherzog3979 I heard they were popular in older combines as well and usually outlasted the combine.
Tractor: Perkins 2.5L 3-cyl diesel, reliability in all conditions.
Truck, timber: Scania V8 14,2 L, reliable and strong
The Power from my built 5.9L (2002 Storm Block) Cummins is amazing! The Torque is very impressive! Now to transition, the 2003 Beetle we built is so much fun. A 1.9 L ALH, TDI with a Borg-Warner Turbo, 11 mm Bosch Injection Pump, Bosul Injectors and a Kerna Tune. Last summer returning hon
home from the northeastern tip of Wisconsin, I drove 650 miles to a Costco near our home. 13.9 gallons of diesel! 46.7 mpgs!
You left out the Mercedes OM617 in my 1985 300CD which I use everyday.
Love my old 7.3l, she slow, she cheap, but most of all, she gets me where I need to be.
Reliable as F too..
There should be a diesel engine fandom. Wish you can make videos on German and Japanese diesel engines, for example the Mercedes Benz OM606 which some call the Diesel 2JZ and it's gas counterpart, the M104, the German 2JZ.
Yes don’t forget the MAM
I have a 5.9 ISB in my 2003 Ram 2500 and it's very good. I've also had a 2000 Beetle TDI with the 1.9ALH that required "spririted driving" to keep the VGT vanes clear of soot. I get 19mpg city 27hwy in the RAM and i got 34mpg city/ 50hwy in the Beetle.
Definitely Mack E9 should be on the list too. How it shares so many parts with Scania makes it a unique American diesel engine
I agree 100% the E9 is a awesome V8 Turbo diesel and the fact it shares so much with the Scania V8 Turbo diesel makes it that much cooler plus the sounds these things make are just non other and in my opinion sound way better than any inline Turbo diesel just my biased opinion😅.
@@hammertime_diesel_minnesot6781 I don't know how is scania reliability, since Scania was bought by Volkswagen/Audi group
@@danteerskine7678 Most of truck engines are 6 cyl. in line but Scania is still holding on with V8 diesel. It`s a low rpm engines and have a unique oil cleaning system (centrifugal). A shame VW got them...... and MAN and and
Great list, for sure this is a large engine list. For small engines the isuzu Diesel engines should be there. The 4jj1 is an impressive little engine. The 4hk1 and 6hk1 are mid size engines. Also extremely reliable.
Do you like the 4BD2 or 4HJ1 engines
@@alvesthegreat depends on needs right tool for the right job
4Hk1 the best
The Caterpillar 3126 is a good one it kinda goes with the 7.3 Powerstroke and the DT466 since all three of them at one time used HEUI Injection
good job buddy!
If I could live with all the oil leaks .I would bring my 7.3 in the house at night ,it's just that good.
There are no leaky engines, just bad owners....
2 stroke Detroit Diesel is a class of it own. The strength and sound is awesome.
And how it's run away also is awesome
Until you either go deaf, or lose your fingers. Slam your hand in the door so you’re pissed off enough to drive it.
Try the Gardner 8LXB, reputed to be the smoothest running automotive diesel ever. Straight 8, naturally aspirated, 13+ litres, closed deck. A glorious quiet achiever.
I will, can and always have trusted my life to Cat 3406 mechanical engines. the hardest thing you will do with the is start them, once they are running they are bullet proof and i have personally have had them pull a load into the yard with a connecting rod sticking out the side of the block. The international dt466 in a small vocational truck is a close second
100% agreement on both engines.. the 3406b is legendary, to say the very least..
I run a dt 466, 3406 and an n14 Cummins all three are work horses but I think the N14 is the better of the three and I’m very surprised it didn’t make the list
Nice shirt I ordered a strut bar from vivid racing and it took at months and 3 complaints to get but thing looks clean asf no complaints now
*Perkins*
All the way!
Maybe out of the scope of these type videos, but two series of prime movers that belong on the best diesels of all time are the EMD 645 and 710 prime movers, and the General Electric FDL16 prime movers, both types being found in both railroad locomotive and marine applications. Two completely different designs, the EMD's being 2-stroke and the GE's being 4-stroke, but both designs being long-lived engines.
I have 2 favorites. #2 is the DT466, and #1 is the 425 horse 3406B.
Heres some engines from europe that really should be on the list.
The Mercedes OM606 3l i6
Volvo D5 2.4l i5
Toyota D4D and the 2.4l NA diesel.
and the legendary Scania 14l V8
Ever?
That’s a hard decision. I had good seat time behind the following. LBZ, LMM duramax. 12v and common rail 5.9 Cummins. Can say enough good about these. I’m sure there are others just as good.
That’s definitely a good list!
DT 466 is the most reliable/abused engines I've ever seen in my life. We had spreader trucks that spent their entire lives with the pedal stomped to the floor in 2nd gear, ALL DAY EVERY DAY, TACHED OUT running in soft dirt, dust, heat and done it with no failures or mechanical issues- for 28 years. NO other engine held up that long.
Here’s a few I think are the most reliable: CAT 3126 7.2l i6, Dt466e 7.6l I6 pre DPF, Maxxforce DT, T444e/7.3 powerstroke v8, 2005 6.6l Duramax v8, Cummins 12/24 valve 5.9l i6 and Cummins 6.7l in-line 6.
i was wondering if you would ever say anything about the mack e7. i learned the ropes on those engines and ive loved them ever since. i enjoy seeing the e9 from time to time as well
VW 1.9tdi. The best diesel engine ever made!
The title of the the video is a false claim since it says best diesel engines but there's not a single mention of the legendary 1.9 TDI
Bmw m57, om606, om605 and om 617. Also isuzu 4jj1 toyota 1kd and john deere 9 litre
American viewer here. I drive a 1.9 BEW VW daily. I’ve had (4) 1.9’s all of them have been amazing. My trucks are 2004.5 5.9 Cummins and and 02’ LB7 and my 54 Dodge truck has an OM606 Mercedes. All of them are fantastic motors. For reliability the VW and the Duramax wins, For high RPM and performance the Mercedes wins and for high Torque the Cummins wins.
Great Job
I can do this in a few words. Diesel engines are economical, use very little fuel compared to others. Power to work beats all. Use to be very few moving parts, little to no electricity. Diesel is easy to make. They can run on kerosene also.
arguably Van line 6 is the best engine configuration of all time for truck and cars... amazing
Detroit 2 stroke on top!
Im a big fan of throwing CAT 3126 engines in pickups. You cant do much to increase the power. But you can find them very cheap and very reliable. Alot of CAT mechanics i talk to say its their favorite engine.
Do they have any comments about additional weight compared to other pickup motors?
On the 24v isb 5.9's its also worth noting that among the changes in fuel was the common rail 24v5.9s that came out in 03 and continued until 06, which, as far as im concerned, are some of the coolest 5.9's.
‘06 was hands down the best year for the 5.9 and no one can tell me otherwise.
I’ve put a ton of miles on diesels over the years. VW 1.5L, 1.9L ALH TDI, 2.0 TDi CR (currently own) … Ram 5.9L 12vCummins , 6.7 Cummins (currently own)….. Mercedes Benz 0M605, OM616(916), and 617(912 X2). Although I don’t have any real complaints about any of the diesels I’ve owned, none have compared to the Mercedes OM615 and OM617 engines. I had over 700k miles on a OM615 240D with nothing but periodic maintenance. Compression was dropping for sure in its final year (it was consuming about a quart of oil every 300 miles and was hard to start in cold temps ), but it was still doing the job. Like all MB diesels of that era, they were overbuilt and underpowered ….. the perfect recipe for longevity.
I love it when people talk continuously without pausing .. it puts me right to sleep.
I am only echoing what has been said by many before me and that is the mercedes diesel engine lineup pre 1995ish. I've had several and they are phenomenal engines. My dad and grandfather built a mercedes custom repair shop around these engines because of their reliability and longevity. I still drive daily.
Great video! What you are calling a 3406c is actually a PEEC. The C model was mechanical just like a b.
Our gensets have cat 3516s. They have 4 starters each,lol. But i think it will start with just 1. Thanks for the video
3406E were the precursor to the C15 I believe, heads were the same casting but had different springs and valve keepers
Are you hating on the 6.5 my guy? You should do a video on it lol. Keep up the good work dude
Not hating on it, but I just wouldn't consider it one of the best diesels ever.
@@Dustrunnersauto You’re absolutely right but would it make the list of worst Diesel engines ever? I guess I’ll wait for the video to find out
Series 60 12.7 pre emission especially last two years 2000-2002 insanely reliable
1.9 TDI
Dt466 is awesome but the Detroit series 60 is the best diesel ever, imo of course. I drove several when I was truckin and they sound great, get good mileage and routinely run a million miles. Or did. Not the most powerful but still. Next is the Cummins dodge used in mid to late 90’s trucks.
A lot of people mention the Mercedes OM606... I would still add it, but not for the power potential or reliability of the turbo version, but for the naturally aspirated version. The OM606 NA is still the most powerful naturally aspirated diesel ever produced (specific output, 44.8 HP/Liter)
Are you sure ?
Ford ran a power max in South America in the super duty which was the Cummins 4bt and later offered the 12v for a short run. Also, in Australia ford used the 7.3 during the US 6.0 run so Australia never had to deal with that nightmare.
I am looking at a 92 Foretravel with a 3208T. I understand about having a solid block with no sleves, but on this application with a relative low level of use over a 30 year period, what should I look for as vulnerabilityies? I would have considered this as one of the old school low HP bullet proof engines, but as I learn more, e.g. bearing size, etc. I'm beginning to wonder.
The only thing i know about the 3406 Cat is from the Movie Black Dog (Patrick swayze movie) where when he got the truck the one they gave him was too flashy and had an unreliable engine, he specifically asked for a 3406 to do the job he was hired for
Love that 60 series !
Yep, the 3406 Cat and the series 60 Detroit are definitely two of the absolute best. An honorable mention I'd like to see is the Detroit 8V92. Purred like a kitten, and just got down to work when you stepped on the loud pedal. Plus, a straightforward rebuild to keep the truck going another million miles
Cummins N14 is in same league as those 2 I6 you mentioned.
why Mercedes 616/617 engines arent here blows my mind on how little people dont know that mercedes was the tesla of diesels back then. i daily drive a 240D from 1982 and has no black smoke or doesn't hard start at all.. all cast iron engine, easy to maintain, and good value for the money..
The 4bt and 6bt Cummins is awesome also!
I have a 1996 Nissan Navara with a 4 cylinder 2.7 Litre turbo diesel. It's done over 260,000kms and still runs great. Doesn't use any fluids. Sure not the most powerful engine. But it's reliable and strong. And also pretty good on fuel. I imagine once I get around to cleaning the intake manifold which I expect to be heavily caked with crap that it'll have a fair bit more grunt. On the to do list!
Wow what an amazing video! I learned so much!
I know its a little late now but on the big cam section on the pt pumps the timing was not the variable it was the pressure. timing was set with shims on the cam follower housings.
The T444E is my 2004 IH CE200 bus would and did outrun every bus we had in our fleet. That includes the 2021 6.7 Cummins CE200, MaxForce DT 466 CE200 and even our E450 7.3 PowerStroke Conversion Bus. It would out speed(no goverernors) and out accelerate everyone of them. All busses were 72 PAX busses save the E450. I miss that 04.
One of the biggest differences I have ever found in all of these busses is that the old engines had very fast and crisp throttle response whereas these new engines are slow to respond.
As an aside, we actually had an older CAT powered bus. But it was unreliable, body wise, to be used on route.
The only weakness of the Cummins 5.9 was their blocks. If they were cast in Brazil they tended to crack. But "block stitching""usually fixes this.