5 Problems Only Redesign Can Fix in the 2023 Tundra
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2022
- The 2022 Toyota Tundra keeps selling because the fiscally irresponsible keep buying it. Toyota has barely changed anything for 2022. Well here are 5 problems that only a redesign will fix.
My out of state son borrowed my 2018 Tundra a month ago, and I'm having serious withdrawal problems. Getting it back next week!😬
Helped my son get a 2015 a few years ago to stop that problem😉
I love my 2022 SR5 fit and finish all good, and low RPM it’s has tons of power. I have no problem seeing out windshield. 10 k miles no issues. Highway driving 21.5 mpg. It’s tows my flat bed with 9000 lb tractor with ease. I live in the North and drive hard miles on logging gravel roads and this truck is just fine. On rough road I really like the smooth ride and nice handling. I would like tow hooks.
I hope it continues to serve you well.
finally, someone that says it like it is.
I totally agree!
I also agree 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯%!!! Thanks for putting it out there!!!
Just get an SUV most people drive around with nothing in the bed of the truck.
@@usemymalekarenvideo4983 Or a Ridgeline or a Santa Cruz or el Camino
Sorry about all the issues and concerns. My 2022 Tundra is the my 5th Toyota truck and I absolutely love it.
Hope it keeps working out for you
The problem with a redesign is, it won't be happening for another 15 years (based on past history). Great video by the way!
Thanks for sharing. The turning radius bothers me more than anything else. I just took possession of my Platinum Edition last week. Love the fact that it is more like an SUV than a truck. I think that it's people like me that this truck was designed for, never off road, never tow anything, and only light hauling on occasion. I didn't notice the windows being narrower, but my driver's side Platinum emblem is lifting at the leading edge. I have it scheduled for the dealer to address the emblem and also look at the passenger door blue led lighting not working. I'm a little nervous about a few quality issues here and there but I do love the truck other than these couple of issues. I'm willing to deal with these small issues as long as they don't reappear later down the road.
Appreciate the comments and glad it works for you. But if I had a new $70k vehicle with lifting badges and trim in 2022, I would get rid of it while it was hot
Ya get ride of it because a light is out and the badging, that makes zero sense now if the engine is falling out or a real serious issue yes, that is like saying the paint on your house is chipping you better sell cause the market is hot, get the hell out of here giving this guy that advice
I've now had the truck for over two months now and couldn't be more pleased with it. The door LED lighting was a disconnected plug that the dealer easily fixed. Platinum badge is on order not sure when it will be in. Gas mileage is averaging 18 combined, this should improve after more miles. Truck is awesome get compliments on it all the time still don't see many at all on the roads where I live in central PA.
@@randallzook5570 I have the SR5 completely max out on the options you can get for this model , in 2 years the platinum is next for me, I love the look of that model, this guy hates on the new tundras and you can knit pick any vehicle
I just got my 2023 Toyota tundra, 1794 off-road army green. I love it it’s beautiful I don’t do any off-road and get it. I just daily drive it. it does everything you needed to do looks 1 million times better than the old generation.
I started searching for a new vehicle in 2020. I loved the Tundra TRD Pro's that I test drove but I wanted things like blind spot monitoring and birds eye view parking cameras so I waited for the new model Tundra in 2022. In March 2022 I was able to test drive a 2022 Limited and a 2022 1794 Trim. I was not a fan of how the exterior of the trucks looked. I'm not sure if it was the front end or just the overall look but I personally found it to be inferior to the Previous model. The other issue was the engine. The previous model Tundra has a well deserved reputation for quality and reliability. Buying a new model means gambling that the V6 Turbos will be just as reliable in the long run. But the deal breaker was driving a 2021 TRD Pro vs driving the 2022 models. Driving the 2021 was fun and the roar of that V8 +TRD Exhaust combo brought a smile to my face everytime. Driving the 2022 was just meh and lacked the fun of hearing that V8 rumble. I found the seats in a 2021 TRD Pro to be just as comfortable if not more comfortable then the new models. I'm a big dude though so smaller drivers might feel differently. the final straw was pricing. The dealers in this area had $15K to $20k "market adjustments". They also sold 2021 TRDO Pros for a hefty markup although not as high as the 2022 models. I ended up getting a 2021 TRD Pro with only 2,000 miles (built September 2021 and I purchased in March 2022). It had the upgrade features like the covered bed, Rhino runningboards, dark tint etc. Found it on Carvana for $61k. I have zero regrets over the past yr.
My 2022 Tundra has absolutely no fit and finish issues. Have checked it out with a fine tooth comb. No issues. Just got back from a 600 mile road trip at average speed of 65 mile an hour getting 22 mpg. Compared to my 2020 Tundra same trip got 13 mpg. It drives way better than the old 2020 with much more precise steering. The power and torque is amazing. It’s a giant step forward compared to my 2020.
HAha, 13mpgs over 400 miles at 65 mph, I get darn close to that towing my travel trailer. And Better get a bew fine toothed comb
@@kedrevs4037 Enjoy your old Tundra Bro. Meanwhile life moves on and I am enjoying the tech and refinement of my new Tundra.
All vehicles have problems, I live in Phoenix now & just got back from the Alabama where I still own a house on the river & after driving 6400 miles I had no problems. I averaged 24.4 mpg. & thats with 85 mph hwy. speeds. The fit & finish is really nice. You’re welcome to bring your new Tundra by sometime & compare them if you would like. The other guy said his old truck got 13 mpg. on the same route & you claimed close to that pulling a travel trailer. I guess that depends on if you think 9-10 mpg. on your truck (probably falling off of a cliff) is close to 13 mpg. cause I’ve pulled with the old style truck & 9-10 mpg. is about what they get pulling a travel trailer on level ground onky.
I just ordered a 2023 Tundra. Waiting anxiously. I have found that "fit and finish" depends on where it is made. I am in Ontario Canada and have found the Toyota products here are always top quality.
@@SHOOT_NDXI don't believe 24.4mpg, ESP! w/85mph thrown in.
I did a 3,250mi. trip in Nov. to snowy Detroit & Erie, PA, driving 80 - 85mph in my 3.5L ECOBOOST '13 F-150 2WD...65hrs. driving...16.6avg. mpg.
Your spot on all points & what is alarming is that Toyota was last to the market with a redesigned Failure of a pickup truck! 😮
This TNGa architecture is crap for a full size truck. Square peg just won’t go into the round hole
You can buy these kits to add tow hooks on the Tacoma. I wonder if it's possible with the Tundras once they can get their hands on one to mock up a design. The narrow windows is what the Tacoma has. By the time there's a redesign on this tundra my 2.5 yr old kid will be about to get a driver's license lol
I have an SR5 and I have only noticed the window trim situation, other than that I'm enjoying my truck.
I hope it doesn't give you anymore trouble, but that window trim makes me concerned about H20 (and salt if I lived near the coast or in snow beltway ). Seems like a vacuum ready to suck in the elements of corrosion.
Keeping this Tundra past Warranty period maybe a very costly mistake. These things were never thought about with owning 2nd Gen Tundra.🤔🤨
My friend has 2022, which is nice! He has not had any issues other the recall! I like what I saw, but I will stick with my 2017 with my Magnuson SC.
Oh man, maybe one day the Magnuson.
Let's hope the redesign doesn't come in 14 years. 😂
Great video as always!!! I totally agree with everything you mentioned💯%!!! Thanks for putting it out there!!! I don't know what happened with Toyota!!I'm happy I got the 2020 Tundra crewmax sr5 trd off-road fully loaded!!!
Such a great product, became such a mediocre product.
I ended up going with a 2022 Refresh Trail Boss. Maybe in 3 years I’ll give another look at the Tundra. Absolutely loving the MPG and overall experience with my TB.
Which engine 6.2, 3.0?
@@kedrevs4037 3.0L
This dedicated Tundra owner went with a 2022 Trail Boss this time around and I love it. Just my opinion , but redesigned Tundra is such a disappointment.
@@barrycucchiaro7349 What engine option did you go with?
You are spot on with these complaints. It's mind boggling to me that Toyota screwed up the design in so many ways with this truck. It will be inadequate for me in my carpentry business with that narrow bed size too. After 25 years owning Toyota trucks, unfortunately I will have to move to another brand.
Thanks I was thinking about buying one. I'm going back to Pacifica. I own a top off the line Town and Country and it hauls all kinds of construction material. Both on top (16 feet long] and inside 4 x 8 sheet goods.
Haha, I think that I hear you saying even a Chrysler Pacifica has more functional utility than the 2022 Tundra, love it.
I’m glad I still own my 2016 Tundra Limited. My next truck definitely will not be a New 2022 Tundra as they ignored there loyal core of buyers with the designed changes that were made.😬👎
Yep, maybe we can get them back by the time you need a new Tundra….in a decade or two
I definitely agree with this video of the tundra and I wish I had my old tundra 2019 model...I am totally disappointed in toyota new truck...it sucks...
Every other truck has an airdam for aero AND front tow hooks. Only Toyota literally didn't care.
@MisguidedSeneca I really lost respect for Roman from Regular Car Reviews and his friend when they revealed he bought a new Tundra.
Composite bed maybe driving the dimensions? Personally I would say the composite bed + fully dropping back window is a big enough advantage vs an aluminum bed and window "cube" from competitors
GM has composite beds as well, and they are a lot more functional. Giving. up the back window would bother me.
There's a video on you tube where they talk about this. The composite bed has to be made with a slight angle inwards at the bottom so that it will release from the mold. Most certainly why its narrower at the bottom especially.
I have a solid back window in my Ram and have never wanted for a rear window that could either open or fully slide down like my 94 4 runner had. Not sure what added functional value the rear window adds for people.
@@Natedoc808 I've been surprised how many times I've used it to load 12' or even 16' lumber. Sure, there are other ways of doing it, and I drove a 2004 Ram diesel for 12 years, but the dropping window on my Tundra has been really convenient
Own a 2024 Tundra limited and its has been amazing. No noise, quiet, no creaks in doors or dashboard. So far the km per liter is around 13.8lt per 100km in the city so I'm okay with that ( it's a truck) it's a solid truck hope it stays with me for a long time.
Hope it continues to serve you well
You are correct on the windshield, and view outwards..... sit in a tundra then a ram, wow ram has way more visibility. At 6'6, on a tundra test drive, my seat was way down, and still looking out the top 1/4 of the w/shield..... stop lights difficult to see too. Wish I had grabbed a last 2021.
Thank you for the post. I’m bewildered when people try to tell me the visibility of that truck is just fine.
A biggie for me is the reduced leg room in the back of the double cab (DC). My 2020 DC I can put a chain saw or tool bag, groceries bags etc on the floor in the rear. The new DC there’s barely 6" of space. Poor design. Where did the cabin space go?
Yep, wouldn't believe how much heat I took when I documented how small the new double cab was back in December. Just got another comment on that video with someone telling me the back seat size is just fine instead of just stupid.
This implores me as a buyer who wants usable rear leg room to have to move up to the crew max. I also want a 6.5’ bed which means they don’t make the sport model in that configuration. So, I’d need to find a different trim level, but, the turning radius, as you’ve pointed out, is horrendous.
I bought my 2020 DC Sport (my third Tundra) as a bookmark waiting for the new design. Now I feel dead ended unless they do a major refresh.
@@kedrevs4037 It's so weird that people were like this. It was obvious from the first reviews that an adult couldn't sit in the back comfortably anymore. ANOTHER thing where the Tundra was best-in-class but is now worst-in-class. The Tundra was even better than the new RAM quad cab. For people who wanted a longer bed with the same exterior dimensions and turning circle the old Tundra was perfect, the seat could easily accommodate people over 6'2" even.
Not to forget that big drivetrain bump in the middle making it even smaller in the back. I was holding off on Ram1500 for this, but this new Tundra is such a disappointment.
@@trance20001 The new RAM 1500 doesn't have ANY kind of bump in the rear, just the heavy duty ones which still use the ancient cab. Toyota just used a platform for mid-size SUVs and made a full-size pickup and SUV out of it.
We like your video's. Refreshing from the usual car review pablum. Your concerns are those of a experienced Tundra owner and I think you genuinely want Toyota to build a great truck (eventually). This model has too many compromises in order to fit a common platform for other vehicles.
Professional reviewers are rarely actual "users" and certainly aren't purchasers of the vehicles they're talking about.
I agree with everything you said but I still love my 2022 Tundra SR5 but they did drop the ball on quality can't believe it
Appreciate the honesty. Hope it serves you well.
I have a 23 and love it. Turning radius is horrible but overall I can deal with it. Shout out Savannah GA!
I hope it keeps doing well for you.
Don’t get the towing mirrors, they take up a lot of side glass and make it hard to see at intersections and tight spots in parking lots.
Wow, worse turning radius than a Ford?! I didn’t think that was possible
correct on all fronts, was going to buy a 23, but many not now.
I rented a 2022 Tundra on my last trip and drove it for a few days. Has great pick up and go, no issues there. But, I must agree with you on the visibility issue. I couldn't put my finger on what it was that bothered me while driving this Tundra. It felt like I was driving a much larger vehicle. You just hit on it, visibility is narrowed down and it gave me a claustrophobic feeling.
Loving my 2023. Was in a friend’s new Denali today which was my other consideration. I left excited I made the right decision. With you on the tow hooks.
hmmm, driven both those trucks. Denali with 3.0 for the win
My 2022 Limited has none of the problems you mentioned and lives up to expectation of Toyota quality, reliability has yet to be proven but I’m thoroughly pleased with the I-Force Max Hybrid engine. The truck is beautiful, the ride is smooth and from someone who owns and enjoys driving the truck daily I highly recommend it
Sounds like you got an exception, hope it continues to serve you well.
Please check your window seals/trim regularly. I saw one on dealership lot had the issue starting just slightly. Water getting in there would not be good.
@T-boe the first
I don’t want to insult your (lack of) intelligence but as I wrote and you felled to read or understand “reliability has yet to be proven”
Please read twice and write once
@@Sacapuntas69
I will keep an eye on it and thanks for the heads up. I’ve had the truck only three months and already driven 10,000 miles. Washed 12x’s since purchased and one freak rain storm, at this time no water issues with the panorama sunroof or anywhere else. I have a factory bed cover and to my surprise no water leaks there either
Well thank you that answers my question I guess I’m waiting for a 24 model
Yeah, I was hoping to see something for’23
Everything you say is correct. The Toyota Corporation doesn’t care about its loyal Tundra buyers. This truck is so far off the mark of value and dependability that I have been accustomed to owning 3 Tundra since 2005. To make the story short I’m keeping my 2016 Tundra Limited which is the Toyota Value I deserve and appreciate.👍
"..Toyota Value I deserve and appreciate". I love that, that's the perfect compliment and criticism at the same time.
I think your right I really feel like they dropped the ball on this one but hey what do I no right lol. I’ll keep my 2020
Unfortunately I don’t think they will change the things you mentioned…I wish they would. I commented on another one of your videos and said…Toyota had all the time in the world to make this truck perfect…and they didn’t. A swing and a miss in my opinion.
I think you’re right, but I keep hoping Toyota recognizes the dud this truck is. So hard for any manufacturers to gauge real interest right now. Big lessons in supply and demand.
Thanks so much for this info! I’m in the market for a truck and was set on a tundra. But the issues you raised have changed my mind. Ford is no better for reliability, But, their foundation for a truck are solid.
That window trim picture on the army green looks exactly like the trim on my 2023..I already had it in after owning it a month, for new window trim on the inside drivers door...it was whistling and you could feel a breeze
Hope it fixed the problem for you
@@kedrevs4037 yes sir!
@@kedrevs4037 yes sir!
So glad I hurried and found a 21, the last of the V-8's.
Agree with everything you said. The new Tundra is a total joke!
Just wonder what they were going for.
I was ready and all in to buy the new Tundra. Looking forward to it for years. After all the reviews (pickup truck plus SUV talk youtube channel) and shortages I passed. I could not get past how ugly the front end is to boot. I went with a 2023 Sierra Denali. Absolutely gorgeous, drives like a dream .
GM takes a lot of criticism. I have personal grudge against their business practices, but I do like the current product
A lower bed height is good for me. The turning radius sucks. build quality is worse than my '21, and it wasn't great. What's up with the bed or frame contacting the cab? Glad I have the old V8 that gets tolerable mpg.
lots of weirdness in the 2022
My new Tundra is amazing! I’m glad I didn’t see this before buying one.
Give it time, maybe you'll wish you had seen this first
@@kedrevs4037 you’re such a hater. These aren’t major issues
3:47 ABSOLUTELY THIS!
I sat in a new one and I feel the interior is cramped, 1st impression. the old tundra has room to move around . Good review on key issues!
Thank you. Sort of boggles the mind how the exterior got bigger but the interior got smaller
I brought a brand new 2023 Toyota tundra, limited windshear white two months ago for $66,000 a week later I washed and polished it. I noticed what it look like a repair done to the paint on the driver side, passenger door. I called Toyota and explain to them what I saw the next day I took it down and they confirmed that rubbish was in the paint when they painted my truck they also said that the back panel on the driver side door needed to be repainted. Also I just don’t understand how no one did a quality control check before selling it.
Hope it gets taken care of for you
All those issues that you pointed out I would still buy a tundra over all the other brands!
A 2nd gen, not this new Tundra
Sad to see it. I could live with all of this if the mpg was 25-28 but being that it’s about the same as a 2006 makes no sense to get this over that.
Tough to make an efficient pickup
They should redo the whole front end, and tow hooks are a must have especially on the TRD pro trim . In my opinion the 2nd gen TRD pro tundra is the best looking truck , it flows perfectly.
Absolutely, the previous generation Tundra looked amazing like a grown up 3rd gen Taco. This new abomination is just terrible in every imaginable way, and I'm afraid that this same fail sauce will seep into the 4th gen Taco.
I have a 2021 TRD Pro. Occasionally Ill be parked next to a 2022 TRD Pro. It always confirms my decision to buy a 2021 model instead of 2022.
Well said 👍🏼💪🏼🙏🏼
You are right about the visibility on the new tundra it sucks. I have a 2021 1794 and my wife and use it to travel and love the visibility on long road trips. I really think the 2nd gen Tundras
will be very sought after in the coming years due to their reliability and practical design. If you need a reliable truck that with regular maintenance will out live you then you can't go
wrong with the 2nd gen Tundra.
I agree completely
Crooked hood?? When you look down rhe road, that is all you can see
Let’s blow nit picky issues out of proportion in order to create clickbait. Over 2 decades I’ve had as many Toyotas and Lexus vehicles with less than a handful of issues across those purchases. The fit and finish on my 2023 Platinum is perfect.
Sure it is, don’t tell me tell all the people with leaking roofs
I agree 💯!!!!
Yep, the more real owner reviews that I see, the more disappointing it becomes. Only ones seeming to like it, don’t actually use it to do any real work.
It would've been the best decision to keep building the 2021 Tundra as a Tundra Classic like RAM does with their RAM Classic. It would offer many buyers what they want, would be cheaper than the new Tundra AND would keep up with the competition much better in many aspects. The people that go crazy over new stuff for new stuff's sake like the huge screen can buy the new one. It's a shame they didn't look at what RAM was doing.
Toyota even builds many old models still to this date for other markets, like the FJ Cruiser. It's just like the 2014 standard FJ (which I actually prefer over the special editions, the bog standard model represents the FJ better than the special models. Besides that it's fully loaded anyway. It's exactly like the 2014 besides a head unit upgrade. First they put an Android Auto/Apple Carplay head unit in the place where the old radio was and now they replaced the panel to fit a 12" widescreen display, of course with Android Auto and Apple Carplay. The climate controls are just like the old model, which is perfect. Big knobs and they reintegrated the buttons nicely. The old Toyota radio is more true to what the FJ was back then but the screens are a modernization I can live with and one that's actually more practical.
@MisguidedSeneca Well sounds good but it would not be RHD
@MisguidedSeneca Did not see my post they have 300 Tundras running around in Australia and elsewhere to perfect a RHD version. Probably not aware the Japanese drive on the same side as us. They make vehicles for a global market.
@MisguidedSeneca You are totally confused. 30% of the Globe drives RHD. Toyota wants the Tundra to sell in many other countries.
" ant size market" we sell more Landcruisers than in the Middle East.
We also design and developed the Ford Ranger for your market and Global markets
Hmmm" ant size market" think you are referring to US Pickup sales outside NA
@MisguidedSeneca Well Toyota is the largest by far US Automaker. Rest cannot compete. Toyota is trying to leverage its US production for a Global market. There are millions of Pickups sold annually outside NA. Toyota wants to make Tundra onr of them
Obviously domr commrntators have NO idea of the world outside NA. Surely the last poster cannot be that dumb
I think you are 100% right. This redesign is a bit disappointing. Lack of recovery hooks, smaller bed, bigger turning radius, smaller windows. What was the design team thinking? I know the crash structure has improved and suspension as well. However, theses improvements likely came at the cost of a usable truck.
Yes a huge trade-off in functionality.
Crooked hood, driver’s delighted view!
I remember how all the influencers and buyers blabbering about how a 6 cylinder was going to put my 5.7L 2016 TRD Pro with the magnuson supercharger.
I'm not saying I told you so... Wait, yes I am.😂😂😂
(...and I constantly get 19.6 MPG around town.)
LOL, a refresh? Wait 14 years.
Ain’t that the truth!
You make me want to jump back into a Silverado. Lol.
Sure do look a lot better, but no, a low miles 2nd gen Tundra is the half-ton answer.
There is a tow hook pkg you can buy which also has a mount for a winch. (There is a Vid on you tube)You can quit stomping your feet now. Something else, the turning radius is poor because it is a wider truck I believe this is partly due to the fact Toyota is using the wider stance to help the truck pass the slalom test. Many of the newer vehicles are failing this especially trucks. Quality issue are a problem with all the car makers since Covid I just haven't figured out why. I have heard that Toyota is making an effort to address them
You are making all kinds of errors. The truck is exactly the same width. It is just stupid long and has a narrower frame, because it was made for a midsize SUV. There is no “tow hook package” from Toyota. I’ll stop stomping when you stop fibbing.
@@kedrevs4037 LOOK AT THE LIGHTS IN FRONT> The marker lights have to be on the truck because it is wider A-hole never said there was a kit from Toyota, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You are only making yourself look like an idiot do your homework before you reply.
I have a 2022 Toyota Tundra 1794 edition, and I love everything about the new truck. I have about 5,000 miles on my truck and no problems. I had a 2012 Toyota Tundra, and I never used the tow hooks. I ask you, how many of you have used the tow hooks? The design of the new Tundra is beautiful inside and out. How can you folks not see the beauty in the 3rd generation of the new Toyota Tundra? Ok, the bed is a little smaller, and the turning radius is more than the old tundra, so what you folks are nit-pickers. Buy yourself a new Ram, GM, or Ford 1/2-ton truck, and your problems will start. I guarantee you that! Toyota is known for there reliability, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. They are the number one automaker in the world and number one in the US. THERE IS A REASON WHY, SO FOLKS, GO FIGURE IT OUT! Some of you may not be smart enough to do that!
Can’t say that about the failing turbo wastages on the new tundras. 😹
For perspective, I have owned a 2003 Tundra SR5 “sport” from new, which now has 225,000 miles on it.
I also purchased the new 1794. To be fair to the this video, many of his complaints are more impactful to buyers of other off road worthy trims. If you were looking for a modifiable off road worthy truck and bought the 22 Tundra anyway, I think you probably should have done more homework before making the purchase.
My experience has been great so far. None of the three recalls actually affected me, meaning I did not experience the described issues, but had the recalls addressed by the dealer, nonetheless. Actually, two of these were software related. That alone tells you how much tech is in these new trucks.
I own a few acres and eventually will buy an RV/trailer, hence the new Tundra purchase. We test drove a GMC Sierra Denali 6.2L and a Ford Platinum 3.5L eco boost. Between the wife and I, the Toyota was more comfortable.
After having made two trips, with 4 passengers and about 400 lbs of cargo, each over 600 miles in comfort and getting 20 MPG on average per tank, we are happy with the purchase so far.
I live in Alaska, no tow hooks are unacceptable here. You will need them. You will use them.
I have used mine on my truck. Due to a week of rain, our RV sank into the soil. My truck needed a little help getting it free. I used my tow hooks on my Tacoma to hold my kayaks to the roof. It's a truck and should have tow hooks. I would even say my 2019 tow hooks should be a little larger than they are.
Lol i think the same think as you do lol . This guys are so stupid that they have no idea about mechanical parts they only focus on irrelevant things . By the way the new tundra it’s awesome and drives like a car , i tested drive one Saturday and im getting tomorrow i love the truck . To me best pick up truck i ever drove , it gives me pleasure to drive it .
Have a '15 Tundra that I love, which I will keep running forever if possible. I think Toyota will take a nosedive ... trucks are supposed to be trucks and I don't trust a turbo 6 as a replacement for a V8 ... owners of these new Tundra's will see big repair bills when those turbos begin to have problems!
Yep, a long way from V6 TT being a trustworthy powertrain. Ford is getting there by making the F150 super light. Tundra is still a heavy beast.
The trucks are very close to the same size. The 2022 is larger in every dimension but looks smaller. It is perplexing how the 2022 is larger on the outside but smaller on the inside, both cab and bed- but not by much!!! The depth of the bed is maddening, it should be 23".
Lots of empty space between the grill and the radiator.
No wonder it does not fit in many home garages.
Excellent points however Toyota is not going to redesign anything on this new Tundra's ( maybe in 5 years or more).
I know, but we can keep after them for the time I need my next truck. 5 years ought to be perfect.
They did it to FOCUS on what’s in front I thought, 2023 Capstone, need hydraulics to lower for better handling on the curves with this sports racing truck!
I had a Chevy Hd 2500 for 20 years with tow hooks , never used then once.
I have never needed to use my seat belt in over 35 years of driving. Still glad to have it. You know, just in case.
Wow
Agreee with you and disappointed too . Hey thanks for sharing and now I have to seriously consider F150 or Ram1500 again .
Love that Tremor
I waited so long to buy a Tundra, over 20 years, (I drive a 2003 Toyota Echo). Guess I'll be waiting a bit longer.
Go get a lightly used 2nd gen, you'll love it.
Some people love the new Tundra and they swear that the new one is way better than the previous gen. I guess different people different opinion, but one thing for sure - some of them are still in their honeymoon stage. What can I say, love is blind.
The new electric power steering is the main reason for the increased turning circle. The Land Cruiser 300 still comes with a hydraulic power steering and its circle is way better than the pickup truck and the new Lexus LX.
Interesting, did not no that about the LC300. Nothing quite kills a niche vehicle like electric power steering. I’ve driven this new Tundra a few times, and it feels very disconnected from the road.
All previous Tundras were designed in America right? Hilarious how the American brands were awful back then and now have improved significantly while Toyota was great back then and now has quality problems over quality problems over quality problems (and massive mistakes like the wastegate and axle bolts).
when you listen to the reviewers, you can tell they aren't impressed. A few years from now, they'll openly acknowledge this was a major turkey.
@@kedrevs4037 Yup, they certainly didn't go crazy over the 3.4L V6 or the tailgate button. 😂
I love the interwebs. Lol!
Spot on again. Though I’ve always bought the SX package, good bang for your buck. But I do wish Toyota corporate would watch this video. I’m not sure if Mike Sweers and his development team is to blame or if Toyota tied his hands and made him cheapen up the truck or maybe a little of both? I know in say 6-8 years when I look to buy a new truck the Tundra better have changed dramatically or I’ll have to jump ship from Toyota after all these years.
Yep, thats my fear too.
Looks like Australia will be getting a RHD version
"Tundra prototypes will begin testing next month and be evaluated “against Australia's severe local conditions and tough customer use”.
Toyota Australia says that by late 2023 the final stage of the RHD re-engineering program will involve 300 Tundra vehicles testing nationwide in real-world conditions."
going to have to check that out.
@@kedrevs4037 Unfortunately US Pickups are a Niche here. Overall annual Pickup numbers in Australia is over 200,000 sold annually.
Read article extract below
"It’s already the dual-cab ute leader in Australia with the HiLux, which remains the nation’s best-selling new car ahead of the Ford Ranger.
Ram sold 3819 examples of the 1500 in Australia during 2021, and GMSV sold 2114 examples of the Silverado 1500.
Both those cars are remanufactured to right-hand drive for their respective distributors by Walkinshaw in Clayton, Victoria, which has also paired with Volkswagen on flagship versions of the Amarok dual-cab ute"
I think Toyota is trying for the Global RHD market. Some from the US obviously have no idea of that market. Getting pretty dumb comments
I HAVE A TERRIBLE PROBLEM ON MY FRONT WINDOW (DRIVER SIDE) WHEN I PLAY MY MUSIC IT MAKE A TERRIBLE NOISE THEY TRY TO FIX THAT PROBLEM FOR 4 MONTHS ALREADY AND THEY CAN'T FIXED THEY TRY TO CONVENCE ME IS SOMETHING NORMAL ON THIS TRUCK I HAVE A PLATINUM ALMOST $80,000 AND THATS SOMETHING NORMAL?
Sorry, just don’t expect that from a new vehicle with that price tag.
GMC might need to give you a commission for how you have unsold me on this vehicle.
Haha, wish you could get the Denali Ultimate with tow package/ baby duramax combo. They don’t offer the towing package above the SLT.
One ugly truck, I wish I purchased one pre-covid...with a v8. Going with F250 once prices drop. Not a big fan of turbos on those trucks
Man, prices just keep rising. Going to take 12-13% interest rates to correct the market? We are in a mess.
@@kedrevs4037 my f150 is 20 years old. was gonna replace it with a 5.7 Tundra. But, hey...we all can play this game...I can hold off 5 more years and keep patching this one, nothing wrong with it...just some panel rust
I don't understand why they didn't put a full rear bumper or the very least make the retractable step standard on every model. Maybe it's petty but doesn't seem like they are serious about competing with their competitors
Exactly correct, this isn't a truck for people who want a truck. It's a vehicle for people that pretending to have a truck is good enough.
The engineers of this crap should be all fired, had many years to at least make it compete but no says Toyota 👎👎👎
Yes, years of design work for parts trim pieces that don’t fit?
@@kedrevs4037 that's true as well😫
They most likely had their hands tied following orders out of Tokyo.
I liked the narrow window i like wide vision not tall
That is an unusual desire for a pickup, perhaps a mustang would suit you better?
“Heighth”. You learn something new everyday
You making fun of people with speech impediments?
@@kedrevs4037 yeah. And?……..
Clearly they didn’t ask what consumers want on a truck, such simple things that they can’t get right.
That’s what I’m wondering. Did they actually poll any truck buyers?
Video is a year old but now a big issue coming up is spun bearings requiring brand new trucks to need engine replacements. Toyota better figure this stuff out, their reputation for quality and reliability is sliding which will push consumers elsewhere
I have tow-hooks on my 2023 TRD Pro
change the bumper did you?
No need to wait for 300k miles. I'm a Longtime fan and owned 15 plus Toyota/lexus vehicles. My 23 tundra came with a number of issues which service manager has no fix to. It's drivable, but it's really poor-quality built truck. Wind noise is so loud it's irritating to drive. Door panel plastics rattle with only 40 percent of the music on and it's just annoying. Car play crashes every 15 minutes and sometimes even within a minute of use...which I spend 2 hours on the phone with Toyota USA tech and they could not figure it out. Heater vent is not operating properly. Roof seals are inconsistent and I'm worried about salt collecting in there and eventually rusting through. MPGs are terrible at 13.5 average on stock tires. My 2018 did about 14 with same style of driving. I even switched to premium fuel thinking this may help the turbo engine but still at 13.5 and I'm mostly driving rural hwy 50mph. This gen is just a huge miss for Toyota
Wonder how many will make 300k, What do you think that NiMH battery will be doing after 120k miles.
I have a 22 limited and I’m very disappointed in the fit and finish especially the fender flares.on the day I picked it up
I noticed right away they appear to have dings in them. Supposedly it’s the clips that hold them on that causes this issue
And it’s on every one I’ve looked at. Looks terrible and there’s no excuse for it except poor engineering.I did address it with the rep and they don’t want to do anything until more people complain. But I’m not happy with a new truck with dings in the fenders. it reminds me of in the 80’s when they had the spot weld issues. I also agree the rear bumper is a joke.
Sorry you're not loving it. I hope it ends up serving you better.
I feel like these are only examples of a small percentage of these trucks made. Nobody can make 100,000 vehicles and never have a hiccup. The overall quality of these trucks are great. Toyota did a great design.
Beauty depends on the eye of the beholder
@JerryMacmullin which issues exactly and are you a toyota mechanic?
First all of the pickups need 8 foot beds .
Unless you off road
They should make it easy to change out bumpers for bush guards and or grumpers .
Plus windshield is fine I put cowls on all mine so the sun won’t blind so it’s small view anyway .
But anyway I’m deciding on jeep or this
Mods are plenty for jeep not so much on Toyota
2nd gen Tundras are very easy to mod, like they were designed for it
'22 TRD Pro owner here. This click bait video peaked my curiosity but I have to disagree with most of it. The only "real world" cons are the turning radius and the lack of rear seat storage on the hybrid models like mine. Hopefully the little things you mentioned get addressed for those in the media who have to find something to complain about. The truck is a dream to drive and plenty capable for the "real world". No need for Toyota to try and one-up their competition every 2 or 3 years. I think most '22 Tundra owners, like myself, are happy customers and those who don't own one just look at what's on paper to compare to other trucks on the market. I think Toyota builds trucks that are in their own class for their own customers. The Big 3 tend to feed people's inner fantasy/emotion with fancy bells and whistles to make up for their flaws. Toyota gives you the truck you actually need, whether you know it or not.
interesting, but you don't seem to know what click bait is. And if it suits you, great. but so far it is an unreliable, unrefined, ugly disaster. Plenty of disappointed owners out there.
We may need to wait over 10 years for Toyota to redesign the truck😢
Man, I hope not.
Well, I mean, what can you expect for just $75,000?
As an owner of a 2020 tundra the new design totally was blown besides dropping the V8 engine which could have been helped with a 10 speed transmission for better MPG
They missed an opportunity to hit it out of the park I’m keeping my tundra for years to come!
Yep, a lot of gimmicks with little substance
I looked at the Tundra after my 2000 was totaled. I didn't like the V6. I don't have faith in its longevity. I went with the Titan Platinum Reserve and love it. But I do miss my old Tundra. I do tow a boat the V8 is the way to go. Plus the Titan has a much better warranty and costs a lot less.
Said many times, there would be a Titan Pro4x XD in my driveway if it just came with a 35gallon fuel tank
I noticed most of the ppl complaining about the redesigned Tundra have pre-2022 Tundras so of course their older truck is better. Keep telling yourselves whatever you have to to feel better. Meanwhile we’ll enjoy the newer better truck.
you got the wrong guy, I wanted one, wanted it to be great, ground breaking, it isn't
Savannah GA is a great town.
90% of peoples will never ever gonna used a front tow hook
Most won’t ever use their airbags either, but they could save you from disaster, just like tow hooks.
@@kedrevs4037 stop crying over a damn tow hook
I have a neighbor whose Tundra has clanking noise underneath, cling, clang, cling. He does not care!
Yikes, rear diff? Don't love that
I just checked that site, and they are actually asking $103,988 for a used Tundra TRD Pro. But hey, the price was $106,988. So you would be getting a deal! HA.
Lol! Wonder how many will be upside down on these things 3 or even 5 years out.
Porsche 911 at heart ❤...🤣🤣
Who wants visibility in a full size pickup?
I bought a '21 Tundra because none of the big 3 are reliable - if something happens to my Tundy, I don't know what I would do. I guess I'd either go for a used gen 2 Tundra or some cheap older truck. There aren't reliable half ton trucks anymore and they're SO EXPENSIVE.
I'd either be use 2nd gen or HD truck
It’s like they had Ford design and build it. Although considering the work ethic and pride in worksmanship we typically expect from Toyota and Texans (it’s made in San Antonio), it looks like Toyota has decided to backslide to a standard of “good enough” instead of “nothing short of excellent”.
Yes it does, and very disappointing
Inhave had 3 Tundras, one for each generation. The quality of materials is abissmal. What Toyota was thinking when replaced steel back bumpers for plastic ones? When you get under these trucks is when you notice the cost cutting measures that they tried to hide under a ton of misplaced electronic gadgets and switches. Ah, what about the minuscule lettering and signs ion the dash? You have to get reading glasses on to descifer them. (We have a 8-years old Porsche Cayenne with bigger lettering and number including gear being used, even my 2016 Tundra was easier to visualize than my 2022).
Appreciate the critique
You’ve been right all along. I’ve followed your comments from the beginning of the 2022. My 2019 TRD PRO is a beast. That V8 will not fail!!!!