Psychological Tricks To Manipulate ANYONE | Ep. 150
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 21. 01. 2019
- Full show notes and worksheet for episode 150 here:
www.jordanharbinger.com/150
It's hard to classify Derren Brown, because he excels in so many fields it's almost unfair to the rest of us. He's possibly most well known for using psychological manipulation and hypnotic suggestion to get people to take a certain course of action, as witnessed in his Netflix specials The Push and Sacrifice.
Derren is also a world-class photographer and artist (check out his creations at Instagram), and author of several books -- the latest is Happy: Why More or Less Everything Is Fine. He's obviously a very busy man, so we're delighted he was able to take the time for this interview in his house of many splendors and surprises.
What We Discuss with Derren Brown:
đĄ How did Derren Brown make the transition from law student to career hypnotist?
đĄ How does psychological manipulation and hypnotic suggestion work to make people operate counter to their own desires?
đĄ How does Derren use his own manipulative skills for good?
đĄ How do faith healers and psychics ply their trades so convincingly?
đĄ What are the limits to hypnotic influence?
And much moreâŠ
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Love Derren's response to the aggressive, "What are you looking at?" and will keep it in mind for the future. My mother had a teenage guy say that aggressively to her at a train station. Her response was simply, "You tell me." He had nothing further to say. Another time when she was with her brother and their car had broken down, a bikie stopped and offered help. When he asked my mother if she felt afraid of him she asked, "Should I be?"
Your Mother sounds hilarious. Blessing to the Mothers of this world!
Darren is such a forgiving and understanding person. Hes beautiful
This deserves 10 million views.
Haha thank you!
BEAAST! Thanks Jordan and Jen and Jason
Thank you!
Fantastic interview, thank you! Derren is an amazing guy, could listen all day!
are you kidding me? this thing was a word salad of nonsense that went on and on. seriously though, what did you get out of this that you think is fantastic? I am genuinely asking.
@@mremington8 Word salad? Are you saying you didn't understand something or it made no sense? I thought it was great from beginning to end. An hour and a half of my time well spent.
As well as being a really genuine, nice guy, Derren is an amazing performer. You will be blown away with any of his live shows. I have not been programmed. I have not been programmed. I have not been programmed. WTF!
@Nedd Flanders it's a pretty simple point to understand.
I have not been programmedđ
@soniarichardson2077 good to know, know, know, know....
If I talk to ppl of how I see things they look at me like I'm crazy, but I just feel sad hoe ppl can't see how it is. Anyway thank-you thank-you thank-you for replying đ
Absolutely amazing interview here with DB! The best that's out there. You need to be commended for this, well done đ
Amazing interview!!
Derren Brown is a brilliant man and for me the best at his craft mentalism, he is on a different level. As for his book HAPPY is very well written and everyone should read it, you'll see life in a different manner.
Congrats on the interview, very good job.
Best of regards
thank you! Do you listen to The Jordan Harbinger Show (podcast) as well?
Wow, this is the first time I'm "seeing" this. I've only listened to it in the podcast over and over.
I actually loved the questions and answers at the end. The two of you really seemed to get along and with that you could (and did) ask some other type of questions. Most of the interviews result in the same answers from Derren Brown, because he prepared well and is mostly asked about the same things. So well done Jordan for getting to the more personal stuff too.
Stumbled upon this. Best part of my week easily
Welcome. More in The Jordan Harbinger Show podcast feed.
Really nice long-form interview. Derren was very generous with his time! So glad to see him breaking into the US market, although I wish I was back in NY to see him live. My sister is there but has no interest as far as I know. I still want to see the quintessential Derren Brown interview that answers ALL my questions but I guess I will have to do it myself some day...
Americans need to mute their immediate response I think in order to understand DB. It's not as literal as I think many people who are not used to him react.
Most if not all of Derrens work is advanced psychology. Not magic.
Thank you for posting
Could listen to Derren for hours. Really great interview... đ
Jordan is awesome and love his shows / podcasts
Thank you!
Have loved Derren's work for a long time, from his earlier TV craft through to his shows and his art too. His skills are fascinating. While my awareness is extremely low in everything he does, it is always good to spot in his episodes how the people are primed and get a tiny insight into how they are manipulated.
Such a great episode. Listened to the podcast but wanted the video also.
Glad you came here for it!
An absolutely brilliant interview that flowed so perfectly & I couldâve listened to a further 24 hours!
Thank you! More like this in The Jordan Harbinger Show podcast feed.
Agreed. It was nice to get lost in this conversation.
I wonder how many other fellow Scots there might be here? As someone who is not only a Scot, but also a whisky enthusiast, I can't help noticing an absolutely brilliant selection of bottles from some of the very best Scottish distilleries; and not always the most obvious ones. A man of taste methinks!
Liked, and subbed! Derren Brown is one of my latest idols in recent years! :3
Whyyyy??? This needs more views!!! Thank youuuuđ€€
The Jordan Harbinger Show podcast version has like 400,000 downloads. Don't worry :)
dont sleepwalk through life
Showman tour?đ
1000x better than the Joe Rogan interview. 1000x less views. fuckin internet
haha yeah I do a LOT more prep work. The Jordan Harbinger Show is mostly a podcast though. I don't do as much on CZcams.
Talking about the woman who wanted him to put her in touch with her dead grandma reminds me of all of the people that I meet who are willing to just agree with someone to get that person to do what they want. Now that said there are absolutely people who have cognitive dissonance and hold to realities that oppose each other in their heads at once. But there are also people out there who will just agree with someone verbally even though they donât agree with them in their beliefs to get that person to do what they want and I think that that is what that girl did with Derren on the night he describes.
So lovely - Derren's Broadway show "The Secret" is wonderful also and so intelligent and interesting - we just saw it in NYC :)
Fab interview
Great explanation of free will
Thank you!
Omer Tahir Celik thanks for watching!
@@JordanHarbingerShow Funny as it goes I found myself sleeping for a minute or so on a sleep suggestion part! :D I have made it all the way through though. That was a humble conversation. :) Thank you once again!
Great interview. Those lights behind Derren are so amazingly distracting though.
Still weird seeing Jordarn irl and not just a voice, great episode as always!
Haha yeah i get that all the time
I came to the comments to say exactly this. Been listening since that other show and my headcanon Jordan looks way different.
@@JordanHarbingerShow do you not blink in your every day life too??
@midlife Blinking takes 4350 milliseconds a day. I try to maximize my efficiency as much as possible. ;)
@@JordanHarbingerShow did you outsource your blinking to a third world country? đ
the words are please and thank you
Great interview đ. Derren seems like a really great guy . I wonder if heâs a INTJ / INFJ or maybe ENFJ on the MBTI
Also based almost purely on my own experience, I dont think the Victorians were as way off as we nowadays assume with the "4 humors": when I first heard of it I felt the same, but after battling issues with sinus draining and indigestion (characterised by a LOT of phlegm - and for which I have only really been able to try to understand myself, as all modern medicine does is prescribe you pills to attempt to control it - with absolutely no explanation), it made me rethink the idea a little as I came across it again. Derren is insanely clever, but sometimes I think he doesn't quite understand the true nature of his own power. No discredit to him, he is more awake than most people, maybe the point is that none of us have one absolute answer, the truth, whatever that is, can only really be understood by the interaction of ideas rather than to just discredit them because "we know so much more now". Do we? Truly? I dont think we know any more or less really - the modern world is about building structures of society in a very physical form - something that is slowly being shifted, most significantly from the 60s (The Beatles ofc), but I dont think we KNOW any more - the unconscious is universal and not subject to time as we are, after all. We were supposed to build our temples inside ourselves - we even have temples and an altar across our foreheads, at the seat of which is the remnants of the 3rd eye, which connects with an area of the brain (I forget the name), which is essentially how hypnosis is possible. You just have to make somebody 'see' cross-eyed. This is how Koans work, this is how we engage with narrative in book form, or a television programme. It's essentially the same idea of narrative driving our conception of reality, and how to contact the Right side of our brains - confuse the Left (or 'conscious') mind - it's really that simple. Doesn't mean I can do it, or at least not control it consciously. But with great power comes great responsibility.
It wasn't the Victorians who categorised health and disease in terms of "humours".
Those beliefs pre-date the Victorians by 100s, even 1000s of years, maybe to the ancient Greeks.
The Victorians were becoming more enlightened with the invention of the microscope. It still took a while for modern medicine to develop but they were getting there.
â@@ellie698Hippocrates lived from 460 - 370BCE
Iâd love to see an edited version where Derren isnât constantly interrupted by the interviewer.
OMG DERRAN BROWN IS A TRUE GENIUS SOMEONE YOUD DEFINATLY HAVE HAS A DINNER GUEST IF YOU COULD HAVE ANYONE DEAD OR ALIVE!
derren mentions that the crowd in the experiment with Fry being shot onstage were not involved and that imply they all act genuinely.. i thought i remember Derren explaining to the crowd before Fry comes on stage that an experiment was taking place and to not react to the shooting ... or did i dream this? lol .. this guy warps my sense of reality sometimes .. haha
im going to go look now for the episode to see ..
No, that was in the restaurant when that boy used the watergun on a stranger.
Derrenâs âThe Secret of Luckâ is his absolutely best. It absolutely changed my life.
I hoped you asked him about where/how did he study about psychology and how did he developed his ability to read people.
Did you watch? More with Derren in The Jordan Harbinger Show podcast feed as well
@@JordanHarbingerShow of course I watched. Maybe I didnât get some point because my native language is portuguese. Why so unpolite?
Letâs see if you can watch a whole video in portuguese, with brazilian accent spoken really fast and understand a third of what I did here without subtitles. Sorry to bother you with my interest.
Not sure why youâre triggered. Nobody was rude aside from you here. Thanks for watching!
Im not sure subtitles were there two years ago but now there is :)
Nice retort to: ''What are you staring at?'' came from a carpenter I used to work with. '' I don't know'' he said, ''but it looks like a pound of tripe.''
When I saw the killing of Stephen Fry I was in fact astonished to see the public doing absolutely nothing.
Demon out! Demon out! Ab Fab đđđ
"Surrounded by actors" - that says it al
"It's very hard to make a judgement about what you'd do in a situation when you're not in that situation."
I beg to differ, Derren. If you tend to speak up against things you aren't happy about normally and are not afraid to stand out from the crowd and come into conflict with authority then it's perfectly reasonable to say you wouldn't do whatever, however, if you're generally compliant, don't question authority and tend to "go along to get along" then to say you wouldn't do whatever is a little hollow. With covid I never wear a mask unless absolutely forced to because I don't believe in them ... or covid for that matter. I write to politicians and others and so on. I would never have been chosen to participate in The Push because there is no way in hell I would've been standing up and sitting down seemingly in response to a bell. What amazed me about The Push was the complacency. Unbelievable.
Great interview.
Derren Brown is amazing, he has a script and he sticks to that script and always finds a way back. You are going to talk about what he wants you to talk about and as long as you are part of the conversation you have very little control of that.
Otso Berg nah. We talk all the time -youâre overthinking this one big time.
Amazing as ever to see Derrin great interview, but i can see so much self doubt and a darkness in Derrin considering he is so confident in his art. And its very sad to see because Derrin has great ethics and does use his amazing talent to find the better in us. I sat wondering how i could help Derrin and i really wished that i could.
Where do you see this? Are you sure youâre not just reading into something else?
Ive spent years wishing that Derren could help ME, not sure he needs any help but I know he could probably sort my life out! :D
Tracey Grant-McRobie Derrin? Fix you're auto correct ffs.
Not sure what you mean here
I love everything this man has achieved, but ironically 'brown" isn't the most flattering colour in this interview x
you said that you would leave the links to the Derren's book and special and other stuff in description but there is no links :(
Full show notes and worksheet for episode 150 here:
www.jordanharbinger.com/150 :)
I like Derren a lot, very talented but it's always a bit disappointing these interviews as the same stories phrases and anecdotes get rolled out to each interviewer, once youve heard one which is good you've heard them all literally
I like Derren, but the guy in "the sacrifice" was an actor. It likely wasn't immediately obvious to UK viewers who have been led to believe such people exist in the US.
The wall outside my house story reminds me of awkwafina blurting out the lyrics of Hotel California in the Shang Chi movie
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT!
NO DERREN thee don't ---- steal NO THINK.... That's a FACT SHALL ME steal thee own sir ----->N-->am
czcams.com/video/YNZTodQK9jQ/video.html 2:14 W OR D Toy Story Derren Plese as thee know Better withee Both OhhK Power get a Grip of theres LIES
hay Brownie Points
He had nlp training
I can't find the links to his videos
Aladdino Aladdino theyâre in the podcast show notes on jordanharbinger.com along with most of these episodes.
I tried to define a couple words this man said is he making up words To sound smart Or am I just dumb as hell
I would ask him if any of the intelligence agancys ever ask him to work for themđ And if not why the hell not?
GIMP....
"Interviewer", so-called, interviews himself here. Brown gets to watch and listen.
Thanks for watching. One of Derrenâs favorite interviews. Guess I must be interesting! đ đ€Ą
How is this not named "Interview with Daren Brown"? Is that not obvious? Or did you have that and receive expect clicks?
I have a feeling if I ever had a chance to meet Derren, he would just read my mind,and answer my questions. So basically he would be the only one talking. xD
Is it just me or is Derren flirting with Jordan a bit :'D
Ha! What gave you that idea?
It's just you
@@JordanHarbingerShow i swear derren is already dating a guy tho XD
He's not flirting with Jordan, he's flirting with everybody watching. Guy's an expert in manipulation, body language, spoken voice. He's a very good hypnotist.
Heâs charming. Thatâs whatâs happening here.
No.
Ummm...Derren's only great skill is convincing the audience that he's using ANY psychological manipulation at all. I thought he'd stopped lying about it. He's always been pretty honest about it in his books. The tricks are TRICKS. No psychology is involved. It's all the usual mentalism stuff. There's no "mental" involved. Literally anyone can do the tricks, given the same access to stooges, spotters, discreet signalling, and gimmicked equipment. Don't get me wrong, Derren is a great performer. And he was a really good card magician before he started pretending to be using a bunch of nonsensical psychological garbage. But when Derren tells you he's using psychology or subliminal suggestion or body language or any of that nonsense, that's like an illusionist who uses camera tricks, and actors for an audience, telling you they really made the statue of liberty disappear. Would you believe someone who told you THAT?
12:42
Man in TV show :- "I'm not racist , I just prefer white people"
Response:- "Maybe you should google what racism is actually defined as"
Wow! Seriously?
Nonsense, spoken with such conviction. (You'd make a great lawyer).
Couldn't take you seriously after that.
what/who are you talking about? wrong video?
â@@JordanHarbingerShow I did a time stamp.
It was in reference to the show "Sacrifice", by Derren. The subject in the show apparently says " "I'm not racist , I just prefer white people" , to which you responded with, "Maybe you should google what racism is actually defined as"
Racism is not defined as preferring your own race. We accept everyone non white preferring their own race, but it becomes an abomination for a white person to do so.
Hopefully that cleared things up.
@@calvinfatman7918 ah ok, semantic argument.
â@@JordanHarbingerShow I think it goes a bit beyond simple semantics.
In the present day, labeling someone a "racist" is deemed far more damning than pretty much any other insult.
Human rights for ch1ld gRap-ist, but not for "racists".
â@@JordanHarbingerShow Being honest, if I did an hour and 25 minute interview, it would probably be littered with cringe, you did pretty good.
Great interview but terrible clickbait title
First!
What an accomplishment ;)
Derren Brown is the real Stewie Griffin
Omg... I want to disagree as I adore derren, and this feels insulating....but he is...I see it...I feel it
Zzz
Wrong.
"I've been trying for 12 years to get Darren Brown on my show." Jesus, dude. Get a life.
1:08:47 did you just pretend there is an antisemitic conspiracy?
Your so wrong I am a medium and have sat in circles never wanted to be noticed yes it is real sorry not all are frauds
I believe that you think you have these powers
â@@JordanHarbingerShow read the Pauli-Jung Conjecture . A keystone founder of quantum mechanics, nominated by Einstein, influenced Dirac, Fermi, Heisenberg and Bior.
May can you explain how you would talk the dead from a different culture who doesn't speak English?
Dude's got a 5 head. Teaching people to do evil. ... cool.
Affirmative action isnât a scapegoat itâs a shit practice
Nothing wrong with being anti illegal immigration and a want for stricter immigration policies
No.
No.