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- This is how an illusionist targets your unconscious mind
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Magicians are actually very effective applied psychologists. They're familiar with the workings of both the conscious and unconscious mind.
During his act, renowned psychological illusionist Derren Brown uses the technique of bafflement to bypass participants' conscious filters and get a maximum response to the trick.
Derren Brown returns to the stage with his new live, one-man show, Showman. Check it out derrenbrown.co.uk/shows/showman/
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DERREN BROWN:
Derren Brown began his UK television career in December 2000 with a series of specials called Mind Control. In the UK, his name is now pretty much synonymous with the art of psychological manipulation. Amongst a varied and notorious TV career, Derren has played Russian Roulette live, convinced middle-managers to commit armed robbery, led the nation in a séance, stuck viewers at home to their sofas, successfully predicted the National Lottery, motivated a shy man to land a packed passenger plane at 30,000 feet, hypnotised a man to assassinate Stephen Fry, and created a zombie apocalypse for an unsuspecting participant after seemingly ending the world. He has also written several best-selling books and has toured with eight sell-out one-man stage shows.
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TRANSCRIPT:
When you work I think with any sort of magic you become a very good applied psychologist just in a very niche area, which is why it’s generally magicians that are brought in to kind of test for psychic claims and that kind of thing to sort of debunk or look for that kind of evidence because scientists get fooled very easily like the rest of us, magicians are just very good at understanding how that sort of thing can work and be fooling. So, you’re working with conscious and non-conscious processes, so for example, to take an idea of just a card trick, say you start a card trick and the deck has to be in a special order in order for the trick to work, but there’s a point halfway through the trick where it’s safe for the person to shuffle the cards, but if they shuffle at the beginning it would ruin the whole trick. So, maybe at the beginning you shuffle yourself as the magician but it’s a false shuffle you’re not really shuffling the cards but it looks like you are, but halfway through the trick you hand them the deck and you say to the spectator, who so far has not shuffled the cards, you say to them, “Shuffle the cards again but this time do it under the table.”
Now, that doesn’t make any sense because they haven’t shuffled the cards before, but in as much as they’re now taking the cards and shuffling them under the table and following that instruction you’re starting to play with the memory of what actually happened in the trick. So, now you’re essentially planting a false memory that they had shuffled the deck before. It’s not a guaranteed thing, but when they start to narrate the trick afterwards you start to see how these false memories are fitting into play. So, a big part of performing any sort of magic is controlling that narrative afterwards by playing with things like false memories so any magician becomes very good at doing that sort of thing.
My tool kit is the ongoing experience of both the audience and the people that come up on stage so I use rapid hypnotic induction techniques with people that come up on stage and they vary in efficacy from night to night, but generally they work. So there, for example, I would be using an unconscious process there of using bafflement and bewilderment to my advantage. So, if you imagine that somebody comes up to you in the street and says it’s not 7:30, your reaction isn’t to go oh yes I know it’s 20 to two, your reaction is normally would be to feel baffled and thrown by that like you’ve sort of missed something. And when we are baffled we become hyper suggestible because we’re looking for a way out, we’re looking for a clear steer, a clear direction out of that towards information that makes sense so I use that a lot. Politicians use it a lot so they give you a bunch of statistics that you can barely follow and then they say so therefore… And you’re much more likely to then accept that information than if they’ve started off with that information because it’s relief from the sort of the bafflement of the figures that they’ve just given you...
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This guy renews my "faith" in the human capacity for reason. No other magic/mentalist shows have had me as thoroughly engaged, intellectually and emotionally.
a bit on edge about the ethics of some of his psychological experiments on Netflix... lol but valuable to know what kinds of pressures can influence a real person to attempt murder in cold blood...
And great stage presence too !
I think you have lost it dude. Seems your notions of reality aren't stable and you're so gullible and foolish to think someone would take another life through basic suggestion/manipulation. Let's face the facts, he hasn't said anything extraordinary here, clearly he thinks he's more than he is. Not a psychological genius but a dullard, just like yourself.
@@1cyanideghost wooooooooooah. Someone's in a poopy mood.
(fyi the comment was referencing Darren Brown's show The Push, and others. not his statements in this video.)
I'm sincerely sorry to say you're demonstrably incorrect about human susceptibility to manipulation even to the point of murder (see The Push, or learn about Nazi death camps).
it's not exactly clear what triggered your insult tantrum here, but you sound very angrily rude and hostile. has anyone ever pointed that out? I don't think it's necessary, and there's prob healthier ways you could manage whatever has you so worked up.
Hope you enjoy a better weekend, offline mr. ghost ✌️
@@anthonypc1 I've come across similar highly cynical and critical ghosts on other such videos on CZcams. Somehow they are 100% convinced these shows are entirely scripted where everyone from the crew to the audience are "in on it" to make a complete fool of the viewer. And these hyper rationalists tend to get incensed if you hint otherwise.
Myself, I'm somewhat in the middle ground. I find some of the more outlandish tricks to be too complex to successfully pull off without some behind the scenes manipulations we aren't shown.
@@d1p70 Oh yeah I'm totally open to consider the possibility of a conspiracy. I'd just call that basic skepticism.
(though it is not skeptical to assume a lie/ conspiracy. That's called paranoia.)
But I was mostly just impressed by this ghost person's abrupt intensity! Really hit the ground raving. hope he/she was just having a bad moment and at least isn't volatile like that with the people in their personal life. yeesh
@@anthonypc1 Mrs. Ghost probably ran away with an illusionist...
I find this type of explaining 100x more entertaining than his shows, and I absolutely love his shows.
his voice is intentionally hypnotic w how he stresses the deep ness of his voice on certain words that are descriptive as well as using the pace of each sentence to ease you into the trance. Trance sounds heavy and complicated but we go in and out of them all day and actually it’s quite relaxing when you get into them. For example... driving a route you take every week is done almost wo paying attention. Ever finish a trip and end up home like whoa i’m here already?! or how did I get here.. Also beware of NLP and those skilled in using them. look that up! it might save you from a future manipulation by an unsavory character
Not all NLP practitioners are car salesman thank you 😤
Conclusion: politicians are magicians
No they aren't magicians when 70% of the population is uncritical, lazy, and doesn't understand government or politics to make informed decisions in the first place.
And liars. Bit we knew that;)
Magic is about what's happening inside the head. It's about how magicians manipulate the attention. It's about how [the unconscious mind] can be taken advantage of … to take people on a journey.
James Randi talks just about that in one of his videos on Big Think: czcams.com/video/t4mO0kMAwa0/video.html
Great Reveal - well worth watching, Thnx Man🙏🏻
I can listen every day to Derren's podcasts - so good :)
What's it called?
Same awsm communication skills
Seen deren brown at a show in Sunderland on friday.
Absolutely brilliant show.
I was also there. It was incredible.
When I was younger I don't think any of this would have worked on me but now I fully appreciate how disorientating situations can be, where you look back and wonder why you weren't able to process something properly, why you did or didn't do X, Y, Z. I believe I used to not be suggestable but have become increasingly suggestable. It's almost as if part of my personality has gone away, I'm not as actively bothered about keeping track of things any more. I used to be very anxious but as that has subsisded other 'sharpness' has also subsided. It's not worrying, it's just strange.
That’s very interesting. What do you think has caused the gradual change in you?
It’s called aging. We were under the impression that we would become wiser as we age, yet in truth, we become duller.
Very informative thank you
One of the most fascinating people i know.
The one thing I want to know about this wizard man is what happens when a handshake induction doesn't work? He's obviously got one. I just haven't come up with a good reason.
Dear Mr Derren, don't know if you'll ever read this, but please, if you have time, do "a bit of a Russell Brand" and upload more of these vids. Your books have inspired me and brought me great comfort over the years.
The shiz you know is pure gold Sir, so let's be having more of it. 🌹
Glad that you've enjoyed the video, Robert. Until new Derren Brown videos get posted, feel free to check his playlist on Big Think: czcams.com/video/xsqzzW3Yl28/video.html
Big Think thank you, I will. 😊
love this comment💜
Anni Psy Thank you. ✌🏼️
I'd like to hear his thoughts on Christianity. With that depth of understanding of psychology, his insight would be fascinating to hear.
Petar Stamenkovic he has discussed the topic
Its a mind disease
He used to be a Christian. Now he isn't. I would imagine his views on Christianity are critical.
@@suiseki1 Derren Brown is visibly more humble today compared to the way he was in the past. I cannot see the prideful atheist anymore. That man is gone. Something humbled him and he is a transformed man. You could say that he was born again, but to what is not as obvious. This is why I'd like to hear his thoughts on Christianity now.
Either way, it appears that he is on a good path.
@@PetarStamenkovic I mean, he's still very much an atheist and even did multiple shows on faith healing, so I think it's safe to infer what he thinks.
I wonder what he does with his fingers at the end when he talks about guiding people with unconscious things...it's at 4:24. He definitely spells something out.
3:18 there’s the sound like a tut from Derren but it doesn’t come into context with what he’s saying - I’m baffled!
just seems like a badly edited jump-cut
Darren Brown King of England
My wall isn't 4 ft high
True.... but cheese is hot shoe treacle
What topics should we tackle next?
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3:10 Derren’s talking
3:15 he’s realised he’s set himself up for a naughty joke.
3:16 he remembers where he is and what type of video it is and chooses to leave the joke unsaid, that why he pauses before saying position.
Because it sounds potentially dirty, but in this context people will take it at face value instead of seeing double entendres.
he is influencing you right now
hahahaha
Jung would love to see this video.
Magicians nightmare when a friend comes up tp you saying "Do that trick where you do A B C D E and F"!
When you only ever actually did A B and C :|
I've actually seen that expression of frightful confusion on some of their faces when that happens. Now I understand why exactly lol
Can you explain, I don't understand
Especially when the trick has multiple endings depending on circumstances.
And if that doesn't work...
We pay actors. 😅
Well he says stoges aren't ever used, but magicians lie. It's how they operate and a lot of his tricks seem impossible without stoges.
I din't get the chance to meet Michael Jackson but I would like to meet the next big thing of my life :)
Third is 50 cent
Deren Brown did in The Trailer of Little Nightmares 2
👍 What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve. A dude by the name of @evenkingsfall (his insta) always says you have to THINK BIG to WIN BIG! Always keep that approach to life! Onwards and upwards 💙
Cool
More cool videos to come daily, Rick! 😀
Derren: okey shuffle the cards again but this time do it under the table.
Christopher Nolan: okey no problem ………..wait a minute I never shuffled the cards at all, you just……….OMG I JUST HAD A GREAT IDEA!!! SOMEBODY GIVE ME A PEN!
Can't have you speaking directly to me.
🤣🤣🤣
Really gutted. I contacted Derren's writing partner, Andy Nyman several years ago to ask if I could engage Darren in a PhD I wanted to pursue on the use of mentalism techniques used in politics. Sadly Nyman said Derren would not be interested. Would have probably made a good study.
You should have baffled him, then offered him a way out
It's sad that derren is getting old😔
One two three back in the room......
Let's refer to him as ... Tim???
There surely are a few naive and gullible people out of 2000.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:05 🎩 *Magicians, skilled in applied psychology, are often called upon to test psychic claims due to their understanding of how deception works.*
00:32 🔄 *Magicians manipulate conscious and non-conscious processes, using techniques like false shuffling to control the outcome of tricks.*
01:00 🧠 *Magicians can implant false memories during tricks, influencing the narrative and perception of the audience.*
01:52 🌀 *Magicians utilize rapid hypnotic induction techniques, capitalizing on audience bafflement to enhance suggestibility.*
02:21 🗣️ *Bafflement makes individuals hyper-suggestible; magicians, like politicians, leverage this to guide perceptions.*
03:13 💤 *Magicians exploit their powerful position on stage to induce hypnosis, using techniques like interrupting handshakes to bypass conscious filters.*
04:12 🤹 *Magicians continuously balance conscious and unconscious elements, filtering for suggestibility to shape the audience's experience.*
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Ah, so this is how he conned the dog races out of money?! Bafflement! This is the dog you're looking for!
Aaah.. I can't really take in to my mind when there's no music behind 😏
I turn off videos that have background music. I can only hear the music!
Since you brought up music, "Quick Silver", do you like Led Zeppelin?
We are very gullible.
How many of these kind of people are in our CIA and such plotting ......
All of that ad.. for 47 derren ? .. I don't know if you took or gave it to me.. not that it makes any difference
Fake and real memories are the same in a hologram universe
Subconscious not unconscious. Shouldn't you know the difference?
The subconscious is unconscious to the conscious mind.
My chicken isn't Jewish
wow! you managed to lose all your hair in just 4 years, that was a good trick
In his 2002 videos he's already losing hair. I make that 19 years chum.
The subconscious doesn't know the difference bc everything is a hologram
I don't trust you..
Subconscious, not unconscious, Mr. "Very good psychologist." Big difference. Unconscious means a lack of consciousness whereas subconscious means beneath consciousness, which is what you mean. People who claim to be knowledgeable in these matters but can't even get that correct immediately lose all credibility to me.
@@bikesbirdsandbonsai2012 I watched a lot of his shows and non of them is really anything psychological. It's all simple magic tricks. No Influence or other such nonsense..
Whatch "wise uncle" here on youtube to see how it is done.
No it’s all unconscious with the preconscious where processes go up into the consciousness.
@@paulatreides0777 Ugh. I'd tell you that you're incorrect again, but I just read the dictionary definition. People like you have misused it so much that the definition was changed. Fuck I hate English sometimes.
*Subconscious* is, however, the better, more understood word for that definition, as I have shown, as it means exactly and only what you described, whereas unconscious originally only meant a lack of consciousness such as sleep or a coma.
@@scbtripwire unconscious is broader term, something you are not aware of.
People use unconscious differently, Freud, Jung, James, etc. For Jung the definition is as a rule things you cannot ever be directly conscious of. But that's not true for every way of defining it.
He’s got a very weak voice similar to David Beckham I couldn’t listen to him for more than a couple of seconds… So boring
You mean like Nancy Pelosi giving Obama the credit for Trump's booming economy?