Don't Buy an External SSD, Build One!
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I’m struggling to understand how is that enclosure expandable. Logically, an expandable enclosure should accommodate more than 1 ssd, and have a maximum capacity of let’s say 8TB. If the enclosure would have 4 SSD slots that can each take one 2TB M2, yeah, we could call it expandable. But if I have to throw away the current SSD in order to expand, that’s not expandable, it’s just a case.
He means u can take it out and slot in another ssd with bigger memory
@@CodyTheBeerBear_ I know what he means, but his definition of expandable is not correct. When you expand, you are able to keep the current capacity and add some more.
@@rdy4ever What are your sources for this definition?
Literally any English dictionary lol @@tjnak
Nice display pic though, anyone who looks like that should be president of the USA @@tjnak
You're not "building" an external SSD. You're just putting a stick in an enclosure. However, I do have several of these, and they are very good enclosures.
Also known as building
@@slob5041
No, that's known as installing. You didn't build the SSD, or the enclosure. All you did was plug it in, and put the screws back in the cover. If you think that's actually building something, I feel sorry for you. 🙄
You don't say you built a computer, just because you added some RAM to it. Even if you buy all the parts and put a tower together, it's still just assembly. 😆
Now, if you went into a machine shop, and physically built that enclosure, soldered a PC board together, with a all the necessary components, and installed that inside of it, then you could say you actually built it.
@@SloppyGoat"Assembling" a computer as you call it is called building a computer by literally every computer tech channel on YT
@@jayfunk13
Yes, and they are all wrong about that. All they're doing is assembling parts they buy. And that is astronomically more than just taking four screws out and replacing them. In what world is that actually building something, to you? Four fucking screws? 😆🙄
Can you name one part in your computer that you actually made? 🙄🙄🙄
In this case, ASUS built the enclosure. And whatever SSD manufacturer built that.
Yeah, this is “building” the same way that putting water in a glass before drinking it is “building” a glass of water.
Thanks for the video. I just bought the 2 TB SSD and the enclosure. I've been getting warnings of the SSD full so this will help with the video file storage. I'm also told that if I put DaVinci Resolve on an external drive that it runs about 6x faster.
DR might start up quicker. You'd want the files you are working on the fastest drive
USB 3.2 gen 2 is 10gbps, but the SSD transfer protocol over that interface is only 6gbps, the same as SATA3. Thunderbolt 3 or Thunderbolt 4 are both available and much faster. The basis of your info is just wrong.
Enjoy your tech info. I used external drives from the 1990's with laptops that allowed PCMCIA I & II, I too now have SSD externals. my choice is the Samsung 1TB as I added one internal and one External with a larger heat sink which is a pluggable drive housing. I will have to try the Hynix with the AsusTuf that your sharing with CZcams
Thx
Great video man, I work in FCP a lot and this will come in handy. Thanks again. (Just Subbed) ✌🏻
wow this is good ! I need to make one for my newly mini pc trigkey currently with 1T & 32ram ..thanks again
For someone who was overwhelmed by all the different SSDs hard drives etc. this video was very informative thank you
Are these good to play games on? Was looking to build my own external NVME.
Great tip!
And you think the cases are not going to be better in 3-4 years? I tell you the external drive casing has just started and you will get a new case with the new drives in a few years.
Hai, if you open the case, there is a small sticker right next to the left of the litle nob, which cover one of the screws. I watched a few reviews for the ASUS A1, but I never saw that sticker anywhere elese. But I have it too in mine enclosure. To you know what is it all abouth with this sticker?
I just built a 1TB SSD for about just 60% of the price of the prebuilt ones. It was a relief.
Thx , I’m with you, consolation of Data too. ❤, excellent description ❤
Looks like great build quality, other enclosures come with a horrid silicon push in tab to keep the ssd in and don’t have thermal pads, I like the asus ones
What gonna happen when you need more storage?
Exactly, you stash the 2tb out with 4tb...keeping it in a dusty case along with your external ssd
THANK YOU!!!
Are there enclosures that can hold more than one memory modules? Just being able to hold just one seems like a waste
I just don’t get it. Doesn’t your pc port determine the transfer speed regardless of what NVMe you have in the enclosure?
You don't "expand" anything , you replace it. Even the "sticky" thermal tape requires replacement.
It would have helped if you'd done comparison speed tests.
Hello Jerad, I'm totally vibing with the whole upgrade game! Whether it's my laptop, desktop, or SSD, I'm all about swapping parts when the time's right. The bonus is that I am always able to sell my old components at a discount which is a win win. Prebuilt SSDs are like Macs, top-notch but when you want to upgrade any component, you have to drop cash on a whole new machine. Loving the content, keep it coming!
I use em just in case an emergency happens.(fire, flooding, tornadoes, earthquake) I just grab the external hard drives and go. They're great a huge life saver.
I suspect a USB drive is limited by the type of USB port you have, such as USB 1, USB3 or USB3.1. It would be nice to know the comparative speeds of nvme if inside the computer and compare that to plug in USB nvme speeds.
USB 3.0+ is always going to have faster transfer speeds over 1/2 assuming your device supports it.
You are saying a plugin NVME device is limited to the USB speed. @@CuppaLiber-tea
How do you like this enclosure vs the Rog Strix you reviewed a couple of years ago? Performance and specs are similar, this one seems more durable at a lower price, but I don’t expect to be throwing it around either.
They are about the same. Different SSDs in each enclosure so I can’t compare straight across. I prefer the cheaper option because I’m not a fan of LED.
Hey I’m buying the same thing one. And getting a 4tb one. But looking to see if my 512gb worth of iPhone pictures be transferred within 3-5min
id like to see u test hat connected to an xbox s/x, moving games over & playing from
The enclosures is so expensive that you don't save much if anything at all.
I paid 110 bucks for a brand new Samsung T7 Shield 2.TB.
Lol you are correct, you don't save any money at all. I have priced them out for our studio a million times & for an apples to apples equally fast enclosure & SSD, you always pay significantly more building your own. You can't sell a used SSD for jack squat, so when it comes time to upgrade it, you will end up with a random leftover internal SSD just lying around. The T7 hits the sweet spot for speed, price, reliability, & warranty.
@@richardallen08Exactly. I checked here and a SSD + Enclosure now cost more than a Samsung T7, because 2.TB SSD is so cheap now especially on sale. ;)
Enclosures only made sense for HDD's 10-20 years ago. Old external Seagate HDD's for example could stop working, but were ususally only the HDD controller that broke. If you took out the HDD, it still worked and you could put it in a new working enclosure.
@@V3ntilator right, plus T7 is compatible with cameras and can be used to record raw from the camera, while I'm not sure that's this enclosures are compatible.
@@ivandj707 Yeah. Some enclosures uses a buggy firmware too that makes them randomly disconnect, and some weren't designed for heat either.
It's best to stick with tested brands like Samsung that is sold everywhere worldwide. You save nothing by using unknown brands.
What a great job explaining and demonstrating this. I bought one before you finished your video. Thanks friend. Outstanding!
we cant use any ssd software with this case like samsung magician, adata ssd utility etc why?
very helpful.
I am planning to build one of this but unsure if it would be able to play movies on our LG UR Smart TV
Great video & to the point! My question is: will this work on a MacBook/Pro?
Yes, that is what I use it and tested it on.
if you format this volume as exFat it will work on both Mac and Windows
My question is, you used a Hynix 2TB NVME for $150.00 plus, and Asus Tuf Gaming Enclosure $49.00 Plus with a 10Gpbs, So why not get a SSD that Reads & Writes at the speed of the Enclosure and Save money on SSD? like LEVEN JP600 4TB PCIe NVMe Gen3x4 PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD, with reads speed 3000MG/sand write speed 2000GB/s, cost -19% $144.99, this give's you a extra 2TB of Storage and couple of buck saving That is my thought, just a retired person living of of fixed income. Thank You for Info.
my thoughts exactly, makes zero sense paying for faster ram that cant be used, I mean alot of pcs/laptops can only send at around 1000 in any case.....and okay lets say we can use it as internal ram for a laptop or mini pc, well it will need formatting later anyway. Thanks for the tip, I'm trying to work out what 2-4tb drive to get with this exact model. Ideally there would be a decent 20gpbs offering, there are good 40gpbs but they cost nearly as much as the ssd! The 20gbps ones out there are garbage also and need faffing with wiring
Especially when the enclosure says “can accommodate up to 2 TB “, so this “upgrade in the future” actually isn’t.
In my country the external SSD's are cheaper then the cost of building one. Can get a Samsung T7 2TB on under 150$.
What if I already have a ssd that has a heat sink on it. Do I need to remove the heat sink off the ssd before putting it in a usb external enclosure case? My situation is I am upgrading my PS5 SSD 2TB internal storage to a 4TB SSD. I want to use my 2 year old 2TB ssd stick as an additional external ssd storage device.
Will this work for windows 10 and above version, Mac OS latest versions and Linux distributions?
do i need thunderbolt type c port on my pc / laptop to work as ssd for video editing ?
Is it free the Blackmagic Disk Speed Test Application?
I can't see how this almost $200 setup is superior to a Toshiba portable external drive for $62. Or a 4TB for $95. You are limited by the USB speed in either case.
I don't know where you're getting a $63 external 2 tb SSD from.
And yes its better value considering the speed these provide, one could be a bit smart and buy cheaper ssd as these are overkill , also cheaper cases are available for 1/3 of the price shown in the vid.
@@bablusonavne384 The same exact one he showed on the video is $85 on Walmart website. The parts he showed in this are $200. You benefit from doing this building an 8TB+ not a tiny little 2TB lol
@@TheNamesRyan That’s something else, not the price of an extreme pro 2TB which is $239 at Walmart. I think the point here is you can get a better drive. The nonsense about expandable is nullified by the 2TB limit of the case he’s using. He should have dropped that point, but the cost shouldn’t deter you.
A Toshiba 2TB portable external drive for under USD 70 is a hard disk drive (mechanical drive). That is orders of magnitude slower than an NVMe SSD, if this SSD is connected through a USB 3.2 (or higher) capable port. A USB 3.2 port is capable of 2.5 GigaBytes per second, and a good NVMe SSD nowadays can transfer data at over 5 GigaBytes per second, so it will use the full data rate capacity of a USB 3.2 port. It will be even faster with a USB 4 port. Your Toshiba mechanical disk will probably do 140 MegaBytes per second max. That is 17 times lower than a good NVMe SSD through a USB 3.2 port, or 34 times slower if you use a USB 4 port. So a full 2TB transfer will take best case 4 hours for your Toshiba mechanical drive, and worst case 14 minutes for the NVMe SSD (7 minutes with a USB4 port). These are theoretical values depending on the port, enclosure, the type of NVMe disk, etc. But in any case, there is at least an order of magnitude of difference. An enclosure with an NVMe SSD is at least 10 times faster than an external USB HDD.
i want a multi slot external solution that allows me to add more m.2s instead of having to buy the next size up and try and find out what to do with the old m.2 kinda like a NAS
I got an SSD and an enclosure but it has a USB A cable, its not showing up when i plug it in, i don't get it.
actually it not the fastest standard anymore - it seems to me 10Gbps and meanwhile there are enclosures that support up to 40Gbps
The Acasis enclosure supports 40gbps
yes, that one is good. I am looking fwd to a 40gbps enclosure for the new tiny nvme
ssd format (sized similar to an sd card)@@mrmeeks222
Can you boot from this drive?
All enclosures have capacity limits. Usually 4TB. It’s not future proof as well. But you can save money by buying your own SSD storage.
Question about Samsung 980 500gb can I used it as Portable Ssd on my Phone to free up some space on my Samsung Galaxy S10e.
If I have a Enclosure like that.
Thank You.
I watched your video. Then went to build a SSD on my own. First previously I used a Samsung T5 4TB external SSD (USB Connection). I had it connected to my Sony smart TV. The Samsung T5 SSD has movies on it. Anyway, I used Diskmgmt in Windows 11 to see how the Samsung T5 was setup. It was a GUID / GPT Partition and formatted to ExFat. So I purchased a M.2 NVME 4TB SSD and a USB enclosure. I partitioned the NVME as GUID / GPT and formatted as ExFat. Installed the NVME into the USB enclosure and copied a few movies to it. I connected the hand built external SSD via USB cable to my Sony TV. And the TV does not see the external SSD. Any ideas?
speed limited to 1000/mbps?
Would it work for the Xbox series X?
You cannot expand beyond 2TB according to the enclosure product information.
Lol
Gottem
Using FireCuda 530 4TB with this
@@OlymPeekdoes this enclosure work with a 4tb SSD ??
@@manickamk3653 Yes, as I said it works with my Firecuda 530 4TB and also getting around 940-960mb/s read/write with USB 3.2 Gen1 Type C
Don't bother with doing this unless the seller of the adapter can guarantee that the adapter/SSD drive won't shut down when it overtemps because of lack of sufficient cooling. I had this problem with 3 different adapters so gave up as it is obvious the technology hasn't kept up with the overhyping.
It,s great...to work White this.. thnxxxxx greetings from Holland city Zwolle
Might be a silly question, but: How would you “upgrade” the 2tb later? By purchasing a higher tb sad drive or will the manufacturer “release” more internal memory storage from that drive? THX!
You can change out the SSD without having to purchase another enclosure.
@@jeradhilltech I think this enclosure only supports max 2 TB drives
@@AbhishekKumar0010 4TB is max
@@shreyasdharashivkar8027the enclosure in the link says “can accommodate up to 2 TB “
@@jeradhilltechHow do I upgrade a 2TB drive with a “can accommodate up to 2 TB” enclosure?
Is this method okay for an Xbox one S?
Expandable in the sense like a forklift upgrade is an upgrade. Throw away the (expensive) old internals and keep just the (cheap) case.
Before talking about expanadability, maybe read spec sheet first? 2TB is the max supported drive size according to asus....
I like your choice of NVME. (SK Hynix) Not so much the enclosure.
this enclosure seems not to support PCIe Gen4
Is there a gen4 or gen5 enclosure to match with a drive?
gen4 drives generally/should exceed the usb speed that these enclosures are capable of, especially the slow enclosures this youtuber is showing. Even newer usb4 enclosures are only capable of outputting approx half the speed of a decent gen4 nvme. usb is the limitation.
Compared to the cost of a 2tb SSD, its shell isn't worth discarding an SSD for another. Besides even when 2tb becomes insufficient, you can still use it for other purposes or sell it.
Enclosure need to be about 40 GBPS speed. Otherwise 7,000MB/S is of no use
that would easily make the enclosure 2-3 times more expensive , at which point all its benefits become insignificant.
Do your 4K videos edit smoother and export faster on this thing?
Not any faster than editing and exporting on the internal system drive, but I experience no lag or issues editing and exporting to this drive.
No USB-4?
There is a device on Amazon that allows up to 4 SSDs over Thunderbolt.
I knew it was going to be slower than expanding inside a PC, but this blew away my speed expectations in a good way.
whats the name of device or link?
Still working at good speeds today
Link to amazon product pls :)
I don't.get it. What's the point of getting an enclosure and SSD?
next problem your old Enclosure will be Thunderbolt 3 upgrade to Thunderbolt 4
Has anyone used this enclosure with 4TB drive?
I just put a 4TB in and it works great.
I have 2 external ssd enclosure by Asus same model
I felt like you were saying this is expandable. Is it? Did I misunderstand? Because even though it may be faster, you will still have the same problem when it is full, no?
Its expandable in the sense that you can upgrade the enclosure to a larger capacity drive.
@@jeradhilltech Got it. Thank you.
The video I was looking for. I'm about to go on vacation and I want to bring my mess of game recordings with me that I need to sort through and edit. Understandably, I don't want all that mess of media copied over to my limited storage laptop, when I can just get an SSD that I can put inside my desktop pc later If I wanted. I think what I'll end up doing is recording gaming footage directly to the enclosure w/SSD so I can just use my laptop to edit when convenient.
Cool but it’s a vac shouldn’t that be away from games?
@@user-ji6ol5cd9v vac?
So you can “expand” it by throwing away the drive and buying a new one? The “benefit” is reusing a $40 enclosure? When I can buy a 2TB external drive for $60? Really?
where can i get a 2TB SSD for $60? send me the link!!
Solidigm P41 Plus 2tb Gen 4 at $65 right now
@@MilossiSeagate Portable 2TB External Hard Drive HDD - USB 3.0 for PC, Mac, PlayStation, & Xbox -1-Year Rescue Service
My thoughts exactly. That thing is not expandable. It would be expandable if it had more than one ssd slots. Only one slot doesn’t make much sense.
2:45 3.2 gen 2 is not the fastest USB transfer protocol that is available, 3.2 gen 2x2 is.
USB 4.0
lol what is the point in correcting someone if you are going to give wrong info too? USB4 homie. Also, for anyone on Mac, they don't support 3.2 gen 2x2.
Can you have this and be able to use it on computer and andriod phones and tablets?
yep. Just check your file system support on your phone and make sure to format it to fit, exfat will work
@nigeltelevet I did I couldn't figure it out. So I said screw it I got the 2 tb samsung 990 pro
youtube says your video is 1 year old, but you are suggesting that 3.2 gen 2 is the "best and fastest transfer protocols available". Is youtube wrong about the date? gen 2 is only 10Gbps, gen 2x2 is 20Gbps, such enclosures have been around for more than a year.
So, when the SSD drive is full, where do you put the card for safe keeping, so you add another card.
I do build my own but not with the idea that I will throw away a 500GB drive and _replace_ it, not expand, with a larger drive. It's not a money saving thing. ASUS enclosures are $40+. You can get cheap ones but sometimes run into incompatibilities.
SSD architecture has also changed. SATA to NVMe for example.
Can i connect my android phone and transfer my photos and videos to this SSD drive❓❓❓
Yes. Just make sure the drive is formatted to xfat
I'm tempted to purchase this, however it doesn't support any higher than 2TB drives! Additionally I googled it on Amazon one day to inspect the price, then the following day Amazon upped the price by $30! Talk about anti-consumer practices.
Is ASUS Tuf Gaming SSD Enclosure works on mac ?
Yes it does.
Bro friendly advice , clean the sandisk from oily fingerprints before shooting the video :) believe me same issue here :))))
Probably a dumb question does it work well with firecuda?
yep, I just built one.
@@FlyingFun. Awesome!
or you could buy an SSD and a SATA cable
I've built 2 recently, first one just from an old drive and then I decided to build another wth a new drive, zero difference between them because the enclosure and usb protocol is the limiting factor.
I did notice once it slowed down when I was first filling the drive probably the slc filled up and then had to move the data around a bit, butit soon sorted that out and went back to being fast.
I would not bother buying an external drive when there is this option unless of course the external drive is a LOT cheaper.
My build was cheap, I paid £10 for the enclosure ( aliexpress ) and £55 for a 1tb seagate 530 drive so £65, I know I could buy a 1tb cheaper but it would not be as useful especially if I needed to replace my laptop nvme ( could just use this drive in it )
You do not need to build an external SSD! Sounds too complicated. You just have to pair up any internal SSD to any external SSD enclosure. Keep in my mind, whatever speed your gonna get is going to be dependent on the type of port you are using! Speaking of, since this video is one year old, he hasn't mentioned what is current! Fastest available right now is the USB4/Thunderbolt at 40gbps (usb 3.2 gen 2x2) max. That's 4 gigabytes of files per second!! Can you imagine? That's like a standard users music library in a couple of seconds! Then there's 20gbps (usb 3.2 gen 2), 10gbps (usb 3.2 gen 1) configurations of enclosures using type c! All are dependent on your computer/laptops ports, meaning just because you get an enclosure with that speed, doesn't mean your gonna be able to speed up the ports on your computer/laptop! Match per Match! Port for port! You'll only be able to go the speed of the ports of your system! Thought i'd mention something useful, instead of complaining about semantics!
The testing was great? I can't even get my drive to show, and why I clicked this video to see any trouble shooting tips..
still I ll go with regular ssd like Sandisk... issues like heating pushing me back from such nvme drives and enclosers & mostly enclosers are restricted to max 4tb nvme... sandisk also gives speed between 1500-2000 mb/s..
heating does not always have to signify that it is bad. the reason is that thermal pad is dissipating heat and helping SSD to prevent thermal throttle
So does building an external drive have the benefit of it lasting longer than prebuilt drives from popular brands?
To me that’s the biggest incentive .
Also does this mean you also have to consider operating system compatibility and is there any software needed to run these?
Can you explain how you get this drive to be recognized properly? I have a Samsung 990 pro in an enclosure and cannot get it to be recognized by any computer or phone I plug it into.
Did you try Disk Management allocation?
This is why USB 3.2 2×1 (1250 MB per second) or 2×2 (2500 MB per second) is still the better choice. It's widely adapted and supported. What people don't understand is that if you want to have a small drive, then heat is a problem. If you take a good look at the USB4 enclosures, you will realize that they are actually bulky. As of our current technology, USB 4 is not a suitable option for small portable drives. For bet compatibility, USB 3.2 2×1 does a wonderful job. Though 3.2 2×2 would get a bit hot to the touch. I'm using a 990 pro 4TB in the Asus Tuff A1. I run WSL images with docker and k8s on it, and it performs just outstanding.
not all enclusres are the same, most have problems with drives over 2 TB and speed, also if you port is only USB 3.x you get only 1 GB transferspeed
this is somewhat misleading, the controller on this ssd enclosure only supports 2TB, not 4TB.
Using 4TB on this with no issue
@@OlymPeek Which 4TB are you using? And how's the real world read/write speeds for you? Thanks in advance!
@@himshurai i’m using seagate firecuda 530 4tb (non heatsink version) and real world speeds were suprisingly fast enough for my work which is game development and working with huge 3D project files. Also I remember that it was installing games from steam at about 650mb/s writing speed. You need to use the cable that comes with the device to get highest speed you can get from it tho. I’ve tested it with couple different usb-c to usb-c cables and non of them were able to reach high speed transfers
"build" = add an M2 SSD into an enclosure.
101 misleading title.
A set
Nice! Great information video.
But, a bit unnecessary to put the skHynix platinum in an enclosure... you can put a great and cheaper one, which have compatibles speed... the Nv2 from kingston is about 50 dollars on Amazon and operates in 3500mb/s... the enclosure operates ins 1000mb/s... and the platinum skhynix is about 7000mb/s (and is more expensive)
Besides, thank you for sharing this!
Lol, wiseiyng
Yes, specifically this enclosure came with USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10gbps), it can only reach max 10*125=1250 mb/s, way less than inserted into the board. But at temporarily needed, I'm planning to have something of stable quality to do the system cloning, this enclosure is way better than others
You did not build anything.
This is a M2 SSD Drive.
With an adapter you can convert the usual M2 SSD Drive to an external Drive.
There is nothing special about it.
I just watched a fancy "how to use an ssd enclosure" for 9 mins .😢
Thanks for watching all the way through 😝
you were gonna say expensive weren't u? lol u edited it out... great video anyways.
That cable is useless on a laptop or desktop. I have never seen a USB C port on a laptop or desktop
you haven't built anything. All you've done is buy an SSD, and an external enclosure, and put the SSD in the enclosure. Four screws aren't much of an assembly
This a far away from "building"
Enclosures are for people who had an m2 SSD laying around after an upgrade, this is not a new thing
it will cost more smh...
where is google office? i had to report this directly since its misleading so hard
NOT !