KAREN READ: John O'Keefe's arm: Lexus or Dog?
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2024
- What the Commonwealth wants you to believe vs. what an expert believes regarding the cause of the injuries to Officer John O'Keefe's right arm. A condensed version of the episode from 1/12/24- the full episode is here: czcams.com/users/live5aPZnjQlJG8?...
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To get rid of the dog, phone, basement, AND house is way too much of a coincidence.
And BA retired from the Boston PD too!
exactly
I commented this the other day and someone insisted it was just normal privacy. Whatever - it’s far from normal to sell for loss of $50k in the housing market at that time - not to mention all of the other things. Their actions definitely show they are lying.
Oh and 3 additional ME for fbi do agree it’s not consistent with vehicle. Not dog dna from the sleeve but did have pig dna. Didn’t test the scratches and far from motive proved by fight a month before in Aruba.
Yes it screams guilty
The reason you questioned your sanity is because the gaslighting with this case is strong.
Yes, when you are catching a lot of flak, you know you're over the target.
The Coffin lady has a big problem with accuracy , shall we say .
And for the people questioning "puncture" wounds...there are plenty of small puncture wounds. The wound above the elbow, but before the two big lacerations, looks so much like a dog bite it's not even funny!
You can see top and bottom teeth marks in that bite!
@@BlackStump172
What is up with her?!
I just saw a short of her allegedly sneaking around someone's house taking pictures
Unbelievably strong. Alot of corruption in Canton.
House, dog and phones all re-homed!
Sweet.
Yep.. very suspicious ! All covering for each other and the judge is so bias!
Unbelievable right? Im suprised they didnt rehome Collin too!
@@glynn2023 LOL Rehome Colin 🤣🤣🤣 So obviously a set-up !
😂🤣
Finally someone brings in a professional dog trainer to talk about this!
The son or dad was fighting this guy in the house and the dog wanted to protect its owner so it grabbed onto John's arm.
The "bite" didbt kill him, correct? So why doesnt the arm flesh look angry and red, swollen, hot? Bruised? Hpw all fog bites liok. If he died wjen receiving the woumds...theyd look more like the photos
Exactly what I thought. A dog would definitely go after the arm.
@@HumanimalChannel He was in snow. Not only that but in a blizzard. Effects skin
@@HumanimalChannel dead people don’t bruise. Inflammation needs blood circulation to develop.
My thoughts exactly!
I am a Paramedic of 13 years. I realize I don’t have a Docorate of anything, however, most of my calls involve MVCS. I have NEVER, seen a car create those type of injuries, or lack there of. I think you could run over someone multiple times, and still not end up with injuries and that pattern. Why we cannot prove this is beyond me.
I imagine that defence will have those expert witnesses when it is their turn . I don’t mean to be rude but you have a rotten job and I hope you are paid well . Our paramedics get abused and attacked by drunken druggie patients , and they see terrible injuries . You 😇
@@BlackStump172 I appreciate that thank you.!I think we get paid well here in Canada compared to the US wages, albeit it’s a much longer course from what I understand. This year is the last year it being a 2 year program. Next year it will be 3. We also are not combined with our fire department. We are 2 separate entities entirely so very different landscape. You are right, it certainly can be a rotten job, but there is a lot of good as well. I truly do believe that a life dedicated to helping others is a worthy one, even if we have to deal with the shit storm some days lol. Have a good one!
@@BlackStump172 not really. 95% are routine calls.
@@sarahstagg3085 If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.
I’m a paramedic, too, and I feel something like branches could potentially create those injuries. They do not look like bite marks from a dog to me, either.
Absolutely a dog attack..I trained dogs for 30 yrs & this man threw his arm up to cover his face when that dog was attacking him.!!!
Yeaaa police dog too
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@@jaiell2457not a police dog.
@@Steve-qn8gn do your research Chloe was one
@@jaiell2457 she was not, you know how I know? Cause they don’t take females into the k9 programs. Do some research of your own
The wounds on John OKeefes arm look exactly like what my next door neighbors arm looked like after he was attacked by a German Shepherd. After he got back from being stitched up at the hospital I specifically remember us both remarking about the giant lacerations because they looked like claw marks, not bite marks. It looked like he got mauled by a big cat.
It looks exactly like my leg looked when i was bitten by a Shepherd as well!
LOL of course it does. That's literally what EVERYBODY says.
Yes I have seen tons of dog attacks in my lifetime and 100% dogs can leave lacerations instead of punctures when they regrip over and over tearing at your skin. My friend has scars just like those marks from being attacked
Hearing this guy explain the arm injuries on John O'Keefe makes me very sad for JO and the last moments of his life. 😭😭💔💔💔
Yep, the case has been so fascinating and crazy that you kind of forget someone lost their life that night 😢
Agree. I cringe thinking about what John O'Keefe went through and I'm equally horrified knowing that he's rolling in his grave knowing that his girlfriend is on trial for his murder when his true murderers were supposed to be his friends and they are involved in a horrible cover-up. This is absolute madness and I cannot wait for the day that she has found not guilty and I hope the Alberts and the McCabe's are brought to Justice
They never thought it would get to trial. They counted on bullying her to take a plea deal by up charging her. Now they’re hoisted on their own petards.
They could back down now and settle but they won’t. This will get ugly and people will end up in prison.
I hope the defense watched this segment. Brilliant show!
I agree, first it was involuntary manslaughter then it was pushed to murder.
I don't see the judge allowing this to be dismissed. The only way it can get dismissed is if the DA puts his foot down & may hafta admit he made an error but that won't likely happen. A lot may depend on when the Feds finish their investigation. Hopefully, they'll finish before the trial ends as can put an end to this fiasco!! I feel so badly for Karen Read. I just pray she won't have to go thru the entire trial that some how, some way it can get dismissed OR the jury sees what we all see & acquit with prejudice so Karen Read can sue anyone & everyone and recoup all get losses. Poor woman!! I can't imagine although I've been thru something similar this woman's life is on the line!! I just pray the truth will out!!
@@PhoebeMc In my opinion, the worst thing that can happen is to have the case dismissed. She needs to be found not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Even after that people would still think she did it unless they get enough evidence to convict the true killer.
@@Pug_Mom11 You're right as she wouldn't be able to recoup her losses, regain her reputation, &, of course, sue for all the damages she's absolutely entitled to. I'm merely thinking of getting her life out of the line of fire...these people are SO dirty, I can or maybe I can't even imagine dealing with how horrific it must be to be to be in her shoes. She's been thru the wringer & deserves A LOT done to give her her life back! It is SO scary!!
@@PhoebeMc I couldn’t have said it better. This could be you. This could be me. It’s painfully obvious they’re trying to protect a thug delinquent. I believe she will be vindicated and she’ll sue for damages. Taxpayers will end up footing the bill. 🤬
karen read defense needs to make him a expert witness
I cannot emphasize that more! Seriously, he needs to come and be a witness for the defense!! 🙏🙏🙏
My exact thought as well!👏🙏
I hope they have someone as good as this! This was very informative.
As a former trauma RN, I feel the location of the wounds say so much. They are located exactly where someone would raise their arm to protect themselves. Love it when two of my favorite creators collaborate 💜
Love you for watching!
They found zero k9 dma om his arm so it wasnt a dog
Yeah, they also found broken taillights at 5 different searches.
Then, 18 months later, they found “microscopic” taillight fragments in John’s shirt. Yeah, ok.
@@ByronTexas they didnt found it 18 months later they revealed it big difference
@@Herkulez1981 no tissue samples were taken from his arm and therefore were never tested.
As someone who has been bitten by large dogs and had their nails rip my flesh(city letter carrier) I promise you, it was a dog.
Hey There, Thanks for your testimony and service! I’m always looking out for my postal workers. Great folks. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@Richie8a8y thank you! 📭
The most underpaid and under-
Appreciated government worker in this country. Thank you for your service
Did she say she had 30 years experience as an attorney? Damn! How old was she when she passed the bar, 15?
@kayty6673 😂 you’re sweet. Thanks!
I would love the defense to be able to get this expert to testify in court.❤
I don’t know what he would testify to. He is no expert on dog bites into human tissue. It wasn’t a dog that did that. Wounds all went in the same general direction. That’s impossible for a dog. Those wounds happened at the same time.
@@alanhinkel420Funny, they found an expert with more credentials than you'll ever dream of and she came to the same conclusion he did. 🤔
Biased judge auntie Bev won't allow it.
@@alanhinkel420Biased judge wouldn't allow dog bite expert Dr. Russell to testify that they are dog bites/scratches, not a car accident. K.
@@steelhurricane4041 Biased Judge, Cover Up, Cops murdering a cop and throwing him in their front yard, jury members in on it… The likelihood of any of this being pulled off successfully is damn low. Impossible. “ I hit him “ Makes much more sense.
He drove 4 hours each way to attend the funeral of a cop he never met but won’t walk out his front door to see the body of a cop friend who was invited to his house 7 hours earlier laying dead on his front lawn. Lol. That’s a joke.
Why do you think he would have known there was a "body of a dead cop friend...laying dead on his front lawn"?
@@TheBasicPicker because he was told by his sister in law
@@JustinTyme33 when?
@@TheBasicPickerdo a little research if you are interested in learning what people have testified to. But according to the testimony of 4 witnesses including Brian Albert he was woken and made aware John was found badly injured on his lawn and had not left in ambulance yet. Obviously he was not declared dead until his temperature was brought up and a dr could make the call. EMT and Paramedics can’t declare people dead unless they have been decapitated.
@@TheBasicPicker she went to the house and into their bedroom and "woke them up"
The pig DNA they found on John could have come from the dog chewing on a pigs ear before it went after John.
Great point
Yes, but there are tons of dog treats that are made with pork too. Not necessarily pig ears. Some owners even give their dog pork scraps / leftovers from a human pork meal.
No dog DNA but DNA from what dog was eating 😆
@@jediknight4316why pig DNA ? The shirt wasn’t sent for DNA they sent 2 swabs ! Why not send Shirt ?
The pig dna probably came from proctors trunk or maybe he threw the clothes in another grocery bag. 🤦♀️
Not only are those dog bites, but his injuries are not that of being hit by a car. All his injuries are on the head, the back cut and on the front the goose egg and 2 black eyes. When pedestrians are hit by a car ,you will see injuries to the trunk of the body , the pelvis, and legs. Besides the arm, the only injuries we see are the top of the head. I have a medical examiner in my family and she told me all these things. She said she's never seen a body where they died from being run over with only his injuries it just doesn't match up. She also agreed with those being dog bites on the arm.
I'm really waiting for the defense if we ever get there ,with all the half days, days off and only going till 4:00. Hopefully, the jury is seeing what we are seeing.
Yeah my stepdad is nursing supervisor at a hospital and basically runs the ER and I told him he had no injuries below his neck and no marks on legs, pelvis, or sternum and he was like “yeah they killed that fucker”
No the jury isn't hearing this.
Every day the judge gives them the rules.
@@phil1517 if you actually looked into the matter you would have seen they only swabbed a small part of the jacket and didn’t swab the holes and rips
@@phil1517 dude I’m not arguing for one side or the other, there’s also a lot of shit you couldn’t explain on the contrary, the fact is we don’t know who the hell killed John and saying you do means you are intellectually dishonest. There’s sketchy shit on both sides that can’t be easily explained away. Why is the FBI investigating this? They wouldn’t if there was no doubt about Karen Reed doing it. Why didn’t anybody see body when leaving, why didn’t plow driver see body with spotlights on his truck, why did Colin Albert say he “fell” on his knuckles and that’s why they looked like he was in a fight, why didn’t John have any broken bones or bruises despite getting hit by a car and flying 30 ft(my family is full of doctors and nurses and they said that is the craziest thing out of all), why all the butt dials, why all the getting rid of phones and one getting thrown away at a military base, ect… for anything one side can say can’t be explained the other can say another. Also COULD have the defense swabbed the jacket that was in police custody? Are you sure about that? How do you know they refused or how do you know they didn’t and the evidence wasn’t allowed in? Leave the emotions out of it bro just let it play out and realize we won’t ever know the truth. Guilty or non guilty in a court doesn’t mean innocent or not innocent. Regardless enough reasonable doubt has come into play where if a jury was doing their job they would acquit her whether she is actually guilty or not.
@@phil1517 you totally ignored all of the points I made and you are stuck on the dna dog thing, the point is WHO GIVES A FUCK if a dog bit John, it proves nothing either way. Let’s say a dog DID bite John that doesn’t prove people in the house killed him either. You are such an emotional person that you even have to name call now. Go change your tampon and take a bubble bath so you can relax a little bit it’s obvious completely rational points and dialogue is too triggering for you
Dear lord, when Lally tried to say the arm was injured by that cocktail glass he was found with he walked out of the Waterfall with... how? Unless someone physically jabbed the glass up & down his arm. Jeez!! That's just nuts!b
I will never understand how they think a glass did that. I read somewhere the local PD/Paramedics initially told the hospital it was a DV situation where KR attacked him with a glass... they were looking at it from the beginning as a DV situation. But that does not explain any of those wounds he has on his arm, or otherwise. Blows my mind
lally doesn't believe 99% of the garb that comes outta his own mouth lmao
@bobbyswain7049 he can't! If he's even got half a brain, he's have to know this stuff is beyond absurd!! He & the defense tried for a continuation, but Judge Auntie Bev refused. It's been did quite a bit she was hell-bent on sitting for this case purely to be on camera!! BARF!! 🤢🤮
Absolutely she needs to get her facts straight!!!! There are 4 (four) bites on record!!!
This poor man was beaten to a pulp. No car would create the injuries he sustained. The arm damage was definitely from a dog & I have first hand knowledge having survived a dog attack.
It makes no sense to not drop him off in driveway as the text stated “pull up behind cars in driveway”. Who in the world would drop him off so far from a sidewalk/door.
The dog attacked when they started fighting & it got out of hand & it was a straight shot from backyard side gate to his resting place. The sister of the wife checking on google “how
long does it take to die from the cold”
This husband called in all his favors, twisted arms when necessary to present this crazy scenario of KR running him over. The FBI has the facts on this as well as an investigation on these “dirty” cops.
It’s really sad they valued his life so little & now value KR life so little.
We as a nation should be outraged & demand justice & put the true murderers behind bars as well as those that enabled the killing & perjured themselves during this trial
Well stated! 👏
Thank you for sharing. Seems obvious and yet there are still people out there that want to defend this family to the bitter end. I wonder how John’s children will feel once they find out what really happened. The betrayal is mind blowing. I say Free Karen Read and allow the truth to come out!
Or the dog went after him first then the men got into fights over the dogs behavior
Or the dog went after him first then the men got into fights over the dogs behavior
So most people backing up do so pretty slow!!!
My thing was that the bits look like he wasn’t even defending himself, it looks like the dog went after him so fast he didn’t have a chance to throw his arms up.
If you look at the photo, it looks like the teeth entered on the lateral side of the of his arm and dragged into the medial. Suggesting the dog went at him while his arms were open/down, from the front. Then John attempted to pull away and the dog attacked again since he was “trained” to do that.
My theory was he was wasted, pissed the dog off, they threw him out, figured he’d gone home/they didn’t check to see he got home, he fell down passed out outside and froze to death.
But I think YOURS makes just as much sense because of the other injuries.
Why they went with “Karen hit him” I will NEVER understand. When they could have just played dumb and say they had no idea what was going on after he left. So many other options vs trying to blame someone else and making it a whole trial…
15:40 and I'm already totally convinced it's a dog bite. I'm still baffled as to why this trial is going ahead.
Because the home owners are super connected
And because now, DA Morrisey is personally invested in the outcome of this case. He's one of the targets of the FBI investigation.
@@phil1517 They didn't find Human DNA either. Does that mean a Human wasn't wearing it? You need to engage your brain. The investigation was extremely slapdash.
Are you serious? The tissue samples were either "lost" or never taken? That is unbelievable.
I bet they were never taken...
The red solo cups and stop and shop bags testify to the incompetence of the entire pd
I wish people (respectfully) would stop using the term Incompetence.... there's zero incompetence only covering up as best they can by hiding changing planting fabricating and lying...... nothing incompetent about it. Incompetence suggests lack of concentration. I bet they've never concentrated so hard in their lives. Will Americans really accept this..... police murdering people and trying to send an innocent person to prison for it. ? I'm shocked there isn't more outrage we could all be Karen !
According to testimony swabs of his top came back as pig 🤷♀️.
@@sarahharvey6698 I watched that testimony. I had no words...
I’m just seeing this. But I have a German shepherd currently (had one my whole life) my current shepherd bit a drunk man who approached my 9 year old in the dark while we weren’t near. We came out and stopped him and he stopped instantly but this is what the man’s arm looked like!
Wow. That woman was so rude to you!! Gaslighting you! I’m a business major and even I can see those scratches are not from a car. Each one has an identical mark beside each other. That’s a dog bite. And scratches
Wait, where does the business major come in??
@@quokka_11 Thank you. Apparently that went way over my head!
So Jen McCabe arrives at her SISTER'S HOUSE where there's a dead Cop on the lawn, but she doesn't go in to check on her SISTER? The cops aren't concerned that the Canton Cop inside the house could be dead too?
Exactly! I feel this should be brought to attention in trial at the least, it is so unnatural when coming across that scene if you aren’t expecting to find a dead man. I would be frantic about my family inside the home.
Really good point!!
She did go inside, though.
@@hotpinkthread After the police told her to go wake up her sister
Jen McCabe was pacing around in her home just waiting for Karen to call her to find out where John is so...I bet she was the one that offered to go out and help her search for him ..im still not surprised Karen found him on the lawn because they wanted her to find her making it seem has if she already know where John body was
Re-homed out of State & / but won’t disclose new owner’s details? Sorry but I reckon Chloe Dog is no more 😭
I believe the same thing, maybe John hurt the dog that’s why they beat him up
Who wants to adopt a aggressive dog at age 6 unless it's going to a junk yard? What cold hearted person, I have dogs
@jeanleigh185 -- I do! Been in canine rescue and rehabilitation for over 20 years and always take the ones no one wants. Bully breeds for me!! 💜🐾
Why can’t be forced to tell the dog’s location?
Me too
This guy needs to be a witness for the defense!
I just hope that if this is in fact a cover up that the people truly responsible are brought to justice.
Not likely
They won't be
I worry they wont be. If Karen gets a not guilty verdict they'll simply say "we'll shes guilty but the jurors failed her family."
I wouldn't be surprised if this circus of a trial was specifically to say they tried while protecting the actual killers. No justice will be done, theyll continue to blame her no matter what.
It was only 2 samples tested for dog DNA, didn't send the entire shirt or sleeve. Plus chain of custody on shirt is in question.
The evidence was collected in Solo cups, not evidence bags/containers. Mishandled & contaminated.
@Democracy-tj5dl Some say that John's shirt was on the floor of the ambulance and then in the back of Trooprr Proctor's car. That's not been presented in court yet.
@phil1517 if you still think shes guilty after prosecution has failed over and over again to provide any evidence against her then you should never be on a Jury.
@@phil1517 the tail light kept on bouncing off John's arm and scratching him. Sure.
@phil1517 100% impossible. He was hit very hard twice in the face by fists, watch the brain lady's - pretty gal in green top with tats -testimony
Medical professional here. They look like dog bites to me. That shoulder doesent appear dislocated though, that’s just some swelling in his deltoid imho.
She is so innocent. He was so killed inside that house
And the dog went after him
Well, it doesn't look like headlight scratches
And that tail light didn't look like it hit a human
They are saying she backed over him so the tail pipe it’s a Lexus it probably has skid pans covering every bit of the underside
The search of how long takes to die in cold means he was still ALIVE when he was dumped outside.....killing the witness to what?
I remember this interview. When she was so adamant that a cover up is not possible, I wondered if she saw the Alec Murdoch case. This is even worst.
Those are definitely bites in JO's arm. There are puncture wounds, and the long wounds are from him trying to pull him arm OUT of the dog's mouth! This case is completely insane, and the corruption in that town is incredible. I hope real justice for John O'Keefe is finally given. I just found and subscribed to your channel today! Great work!!
A bunch of drunk men in this house what could go wrong?!
Severely drunk COPS, with their HUGE COP EGOS!!
And a lot of them were on roids 😂
Exactly cops with Billy clubs. I believe the fight in house with the dog jumping in the fight. His injures to his head …two black eyes sounds like a guy fight to me and the dog on him the same time. This poor man deserves justice.
I stand with Attorney Melanie Little 💯!
whoop! there it is! This guy needs to testify for the defense!
I'll have a glass of whatever Coffindaffer is having!
She's having a glass of Morrissey! he emailed her to thank her for reading off all his findings ...lmao No way she was FBI
You don’t want to drink that!!😂 It makes you clueless forevermore 🤣
Honestly at this point I am shocked that Jennifer would speak about anything. Her words mean NOTHING anymore. She is a failed FBI agent and what an embarrassment she is.
This was an incredible guest! He needs to testify for the defense
I wish this appers in the court! Best explanation I've seem so far. Great video!🎉❤
Wow? I sure wish Jennifer Coffindaffer could see this and watch it with an open mind. I’m very hopeful Karen Read’s Defense will have an expert, like Garret, to testify!
JC will NEVER admit when she is wrong, NOT ever!
Defense needs to have him testify!!
A mastif bit me when I was horsing around with its owner, even though I was a roommate. He grabbed my hip and it scared the crap out of me, how powerful that dog was.
My mother was bit by a dog and that womans wounds are exactly what her lacerations looked like and she needed a bunch of stitches too. I was just a little kid and it was so scary.
I hope the defense attorney sees this and calls. This guy is an expert witness! That would be major points for the defense.
I was attacked by a large German Shepard when I was 10 yrs old and he bit my entire top half of my left ear OFF!! It was my aunt's dog. He was not a trained police dog or attack dog, just their family dog. The dog was lying on the floor and I knelt down on my knees in front of him and leaned in to him to hug him. Thank God, I had turned my face to the right when I hugged him or my face would have been completely mauled! I was not teasing him or anything, just hugged him (never, ever did I expect this to happen plus I was only a little girl)......anyways, my aunt literally picked up my ear off the floor, wrapped it in a moist kitchen tea towel and rushed me to the ER at UPMC Hamot Hospital in Erie, PA. A plastic surgeon there performed stat emergency surgery on me that evening- I was actually on the OR table for 7 hours as he reattached my ear! I had another major surgery 3 months later for more follow-up reconstructive surgery. This happened clear back in July of 1974. The surgeon was AMAZING and saved my ear! I will never forget him!! The dog bit me only once, sunk his teeth into my ear (the side of my head) and a tooth or two caught the very posterior part of my cheek next to my left ear and literally shook me like a toy! It didn't take long and it definitely wasn't difficult for him to rip my ear off quickly!!! But this man is right, just like he's explaining, this dog sunk his teeth into me, shook me and pulled my flesh. Worst day of my life!!!!!!!!!! The wounds on JO's arm are definitely from a dog, I have no doubts!
Garret was an incredible guest. I believe he is spot on.
I was bit by a dog once and there is only a single scar about 1/2 long + 1/8 inch wide, even though he clamped down his whole mouth on my forearm.
You are RIGHT ON Melanie! Keep speaking your truth and FACTS! ♥️🔥♥️🔥♥️🔥
The snow plow man didn't see the Ford parked before. It means the individual who parked there, would have seen O'Keefe in the snow, his headlights right in his direction while approaching.
I totally agree! I hope the defence team see this information 🙏🏼
Dog puncture wounds is what they are ! I’m sure ER staff stated puncture wounds
I grew up with German shepherds. Most are even tempered and protective. For instance, my kid brother used to ride ours like a horse when he was a toddler. If the dog wasn't in the mood, he'd just lay down. BUT if a German shepherd gets triggered to bite they keep going until the victim is down or stopped.
Wow! An expert asking other experts and they all have the same answer and Backing up the evidence. Well done.❤
This guy should be a defense witness.
Thank you for being balanced and graceful when you are up against those who are not. ✨
This guy really came prepared with the models and videos.
I am very confused because the wife testified that they know exactly where the dog is if they want to test that dog. Those are clearly from a dog, jumping up, biting and then coming down. I have a lot of experience in this. I am just confused as to how the defense did not have access to this dog that they clearly know exactly where this dog is.
If it's not a dog attack it is surely a knife attack. There was brawl in that basement.
I dated a K9 handler police officer, his dog was a Belgian Malinois. I was able to sit in on some of their training sessions and I remember just being blown away at how powerful they were. It took everything the officers had to not fall over when the dogs latched on. Thanks for the informative video!
Holy crap. I hope Jackson subpoenas you. Best explanation ever
I hope they call him as an expert witness.
Ive been a fan of Garret. This guy knows his stuff. The collaboration I didn't know I needed. Karen Read x Garret
Never understood how Jennifer has the DNA results but the defence don’t
Curious
No Dog DNA found, they found Pig DNA on swabs that were tested ! Could be from a dog eating a treat!
@@recentlyretired while I have no doubt those are dog bites and scratches having had them many times myself
The unfortunate thing about the pig DNA, it could be from proctors dog having treats
It could be from anywhere
Initially they said they (edit) hadn’t swabs and hadn’t any DNA
Now they have, but it’s only pig DNA
I don’t know if it meets Brady but I’m sure the defence will be working on that if it does
Amen Melanie! Thank you for being here. Sometimes the long arc of JUSTICE requires a multi-pronged approach from we the people. You are a diamond prong in this fight for #justiceforjohnokeefe in order to #freekarenread
Thank you for reminding us all to SAY SOMETHING when we see people in positions of power who insist on abusing their authority.
He comes with great knowledge and years of experience, amazing analysis
Wish this guy could be called as an expert witness he’s incredible
Thanks for this. Worked as a vet tech. Didn't see nearly as many bite wounds as your guest, but have seen enough to immediately say his arm looked like it had repeated dog bites. Cat bites are sometimes straight puncture wounds, but seems like dog bites rarely are.
she even admits that the dog was aggressive
I just found this channel, looking forward to watching more! I first heard about this case over a year ago, maybe 2 years when I heard a news blurb about a MA lady who backed over her boyfriend and left him to die in the snow. I pretty much immediately forgot about it. Fast forward to a few months ago when a FB friend posted an update. My interest was piqued, and i have been reading and watching everything I can find. When i first saw the autopsy pictures, I had no idea a dog was even part of the scenario. My brain immediately knew those injuries were caused by an animal with long canine teeth. Later when I learned about the Alberts dog, it served as a strong reinforcement that my original understanding was correct based on the injuries and the alleged situation inside the house. Thank you for being a voice of reason!!
Karen is innocent
@@enigma_-_79 In my opinion based on all the facts that have come to light Karen Read will be not guilty because there is clearly lots of reasonable doubt here.
Every attack dog training i've seen, the dog is trained to attack the arm in the EXACT same spot as the victim had damage.
Karen Read is innocent 💞💞
Karen Read is factually innocent!
Thank you Melanie for having Garrett describe what actual dog bites look like based on his years of experience. I am definitely more convinced now that the injuries to John O'Keefe's arm were absolutely caused by Chloe!!
Thanks for the interview. I knew it couldn't be a car that killed John with just those head and arms injuries, but used to be sceptical about dog bites theory. Not anymore, because I really thought there would be puncture wounds
I was assigned to the MP unit my first enlistment. I learned A TON. I also got to wear the suit for dog training.... 🥴 Sasha was so nice, until it came time to work. 😂 That said, she got my left forearm. I am 5ft tall and a red head. I bruise easy sometimes. She got me and I had 2 2-inch scratch bruise marks on tip and a weird row of mini bruises that looked dragged across my skin. I assume from her bottom teeth. That was from getting thru the suit. No blood. No stitches. Thankfully. She let go 2nd or 3rd try. Whew. Had she really dug in, she'd have broken my arm. I'm so small, that helped me avoid injury. She was always so sweet to me after that. 💙
You can tell it's a ripping bite like the person was fighting
I was attacked by a German Shepherd as a child and can confirm my scars are close to mirror image to what the autopsy photos of John’s arm look like.
Can I ask why didn’t the defense attorneys have this man testify during the trial. He is beyond knowledgeable and explains everything so simply and clearly. I am beyond positive now after watching him that KR is absolutely innocent.
I'm a professional dog holder as well as a licensed veterinary nurse with 50 years experience. I'm dating myself but for a good reason. To put it simply, the abrasions on O'Keefe's arm are indeed dog bites and scratches. I worked every day with employees at veterinary clinics who get seriously bitten. I witnessed a friend attacked by a dog who bit him around his throat and ripped it open. The dog, Doberman Pinscher, was protecting his owner. We at vet clinics see dogs biting all the time. Dogs do rip the skin when they bite and with punctures. It's really not hard to tell which tooth they have used to bite with. I've only been bit twice in my career and both times it was a puncture. It's not rare to find a puncture wound for a dog bite. Most dog bites are puncture wounds because most dog bites are not dog attacks. Dog attacks are the rare events, and that's when you will see rips and tearing of the skin. Your guest evidently hasn't seen simple dog bites in his line of work. My first bite was from a Toy Fox Terrier. The second was a Chow that no one could hold for treatment including the owner. I know that John O'Keefe was bitten by a dog. I witnessed a dog pop a 6 week old rabbit right out of it's skin, all of it, and eat it. I will say this of your guest why does he not know the names of the teeth? He's worked with them how long? And he knows canine teeth so why not incisors. They are not called baby teeth. Your guest needs to learn about dog's teeth and their names. If he's going to talk about them it looks more professional if he knows their scientific names. Incisors, canines, premolars, and carnassial. Any dog will protect their owner. It's not just German Shepherd. That's totally bull about a dog getting cocky about biting someone. Of course a dog who bites once is more likely to bite again if ever put in that situation. Yes, it is possible a canine can dislocate any joint in the body. If the dog is a Chihuahua maybe not. You are talking to someone who works with training animals to purposely attack, maybe someone else who knows about dog attacks and simple dog bites would have been better. Now, you've told everyone that it's rare for a dog bite to be a puncture when it's just the opposite. I watched my first dog attack by a retired Army dog at the age of 9 when it attacked my sister who was 3. I talked her through that and have talked dogs back from attacking ever since. I don't approve of training animals, any animal, to attack or hurt anyone at the command of man. Now that's sick.
Trust me, I'm no fan of cops or how cops treat dogs (both theirs and ours) but this is a case full of cops and a German shepherd so it is actually good to get a view into that weird violent mindset. He does call dogs 'it' too, which was odd to hear from the witnesses, so that's interesting
@@MaTe-du2lw As we all did, yes through the media and statements from the police and medical examiner. Just as the jury will do when they render a verdict. You might think you are so smart by making a statement to me as condescending as it is, you still can't keep me from my opinion. I see you have yours of which I would never take from you. Thank you for your reading my opinion.
@@toms8466 I agree.
I thought the pic of his bruised hand appeared to have a puncture mark on it.
@@rhondagemas6610 If your talking about John O'Keefe's hand I wouldn't know I never saw his hands. I heard someone from the hospital personnel say that after they warmed his body up his hands showed bruising on the backs of his hands. The picture of Colin Albert's hand to me showed cuts or nicks on the knuckles which didn't appear to be puncture wounds to me. They looked more like what you get when you hit someone without boxing gloves on.
I defend police officers in civil rights cases and I've seen a bit of canine wounds. They don't look like bites to me, but they do look like scratches from a dog. I'll admit that I don't see as many scratches in my work because police k-9s aren't supposed to scratch. They're supposed to bite and hold. I have one case right now where the dog did exactly that and there are these circular puncture holes. But the expert brings up a great point regarding pulling the arm away (natural human reaction). Whether it was bite or scratch or both, that seems way more logical than road rash. Also that lady on court TV who was saying how ridiculous it was to accuse the owners and explaining away the dog being re-homed, the basement being ripped up, and the house being sold sure was fine with so many coincidences. If they had been criminal defendants instead of cops who aren't accused of a crime, there's no way she would buy that many coincidences and explain them away.
Edit: okay I'm convinced it's a dog bite and not just a scratch. Love this guy's examples.
Also supposedly the pool filled in. Maybe filled with bloody concrete?
@@barbaral743 that’s right! My lord, the number of coincidences are astounding.
And the phone traded in and butt dials.
and the missing video from camera's...to much missing stuff in this case!
This man a great expert in this matter more than the CWs “experts”
Excellent analysis!! Thank you so much for putting this out there and helping us understand what we are seeing. Subscribing to your channel today!!
Melanie, you need to get this to the defense!! Amazing!!
Had to come back and watch this again. Thanks. Great trainer. Loved the demos. I always figured the guys were fighting and the dog got involved.
Hmm.. methinks it's a dog named Lexus, er, rather Chloe. Thank you. P.s.: in this CourtTV clip, the other female attorney was quite quick to dismiss your considered legal assessments, insights, and statements. On my way in, I read a comment referencing the gaslighting. I absolutely agree. I'm glad to see you've reconciled to the fact that, yep, others will try to put another down (even by innuendo) in effort to raise themselves up. You offered logic; she offered alibis. I wonder if the "small leak in the basement," which required the floor to be replaced, was because of all the blood they tried to wash away. I've heard of cases in which investigators removed sections of plumbing to submit for certain tests and findings. The house was off limits for many reasons. Let's see .. so many things were re-homed: Chloe, the iPhones, the basement, the home, Colin's memory, and more.
Watching this on replay, post Trial Day 14, and now a new subscriber to your channel. Mr Garrett Wing is an excellent guest ~ so easy to understand his area of expertis
See you in the next Live 😊
Brilliant.
Yes Melanie, I am asking all the same Questions and so much more.
Yay, you won your CZcams Appeal! Seems like 2024 will be THE YEAR OF EXPOSURE and THE YEAR OF WINNING!
My famliy and I talk about you every day and include you and your family in our prayers.
So glad you're here, @AttorneyMelanieLittle.
Awwww thank you! I appreciate you and your family!
One of the best interviews I've ever seen.
Common sense tells us that we need to listen to the real experts with real experience and not ex fbi agents who think they are experts.
Love all of your input on this case. Your expertise and knowledge is amazing!
Thank you Bob Weir!
The examiners never said it wasn’t dog scratches or bites
DESPICABLE THAT THESE PPL BELIEVE THEY CAN DO OR GET AWAY WITH THIS MAY GOD PUNISH THE GUILTY SOONEST
Thank you for all that you do, including being unafraid to voice your opinion and available for healthy debate. Excited to hear more from you 🌈
He explained it so well! 👍
This is great Melanie! Thank you!!
And WHY would this dog attack this officer, unless there was a fight and the dog jumped in to protect it's owner.
Thank goodness for people with sense! How can anyone think those injuries are from a car?!? It’s really disturbing that ACTUAL legal experts can argue that those came from a car! You would expect that they would have some sense!
Well it wasnt a dog that they know now that they tested for dna
@@Herkulez1981 That's actually factually wrong. They never tested for DNA at all! Do your research. Real research on the case.
@@elaine6061 no i actually Done my recearch and they found no k9 dna When they swabbed the clothes. Stop spreading misinformation, im not saying Those marks are from a car just that it wasnt from a dog
@@elaine6061 exactly right!
@@Herkulez1981 now that the lab from CA has confirmed that they were given swabs from a tshirt and not the wounds, I think you can amend your comment, as you’ll know at this point that they did not do DNA testing on the wounds.
You are the best Melanie… so thankful I found your channel.
And this is why you are absolutely amazing, Melanie! The other “talking head” has literally lost their mind 🤦🏻♀️ it’s absolutely insane! Thank YOU for being you and speaking the truth!