Yeah , You Must Understand If There Was a Plumber Or Another Cop Died On Lawn John Would Be Lying And Covering Up For The Other Cops It's Just The Way The Cops Work , Cops Lie For Cops PERIOD...........
Another strange thing was that the officer who owned the house where this happened, didn’t even come outside when a dead body of a friend was found in his front yard. All the first responders there, two phone calls made to the house and the homeowners stayed inside 🤔
wait, I've heard most of that, but what are the two phone calls to the house? Who called the house? I've often thought that was one of the craziest facts of the case, that nobody came out of the Alberts home, and even Jen McCabe, who was outside with Karen but had been previously in the house, stood outside and didn't call anyone from the house to come out. They could have had police officers from inside the house performing CPR or securing the scene or offering aid before help from the 9-1-1 call even arrived!
@lydialutz and to add to that question, the owners of the house were Brian & Nicole Albert, Jen McCabes, sister & brother in law. Why wouldn't she run in the house to check on them & their kids? This case is full of soooo many questions, twists, turns & lies. Officer John O'Keefe deserves better. Karen Read & her family deserve better. Officer John O'Keefes' niece & nephew deserve sooooo much more, those poor kids
@@lynda0814 great point, why wasn’t Jen M banging on the front door to let her sister and BIL know what’s going on in their own yard, the death of their friend! Makes no sense.
@@lydialutz I hope I’m not remembering that incorrectly, but I thought Jen M attempted to reach her sister by phone and they didn’t answer or it went to vm
Exactly. Judges are supposed to recuse themselves if there is even a possibility of APPEARING partial to a case. One of the alleged co-conspirator's brothers threated to bury a journalist at the judges vacation home (a vacation home he correctly identified) for reporting on the story. Then in the judge's response to the motion to dismiss, she referred to one of the Alberts in this case, a family she claimed to not know at all. However, only Brian and Kevin Albert have been mentioned in this case yet she correctly mistook one of said brothers as Tim, the actual brother not mentioned in this case once. Hinky is an understatement.
The detail that yall are going into the grand jury process is refreshing. You should stick with this case in more detail. It's worth it. One correction to make: Brian Higgins is not investigating the Karen Reed case. He is an ATF agent and he is considered a witness in this case as he was in the house prior/during John's arrival.
@@Ieezeca And had a phone but somehow got permission to destroy it, yet he just so happened to print out all his messages beforehand on paper to claim that Karen wanted him more than John (because a jilted lover should never be a suspect?). These characters lol
Yes I agree with However there’s been interviews with diseased victims Brother And his opinion is mind boggling he is so convinced that Karen killed his Brother.and he think that the FBI shouldn’t have been involved in the case.. because they are interfering with the truth..
Give credit where credit is due. It was Turtleboy from Turtleboy Live that tracked down the snowplow driver. It was not the police that tracked him down originally.
There are so many layers to this case it’s crazy. But don’t forget, they also framed the journalist that exposed them as well. They locked him up for 60 days after they got an angry ex to say he assaulted her, the assault was that she fell back onto her couch 🤨. The charges were dropped the day he got out of jail, but she still had the restraining order against him. Then he showed up to the next Karen Read hearing, as he always does and she magically shows up (for the first time ever) after he’s already sitting in the courtroom. He sees her and leaves immediately. They file charges that he violated the order and try to put him back in jail, this time for 120 days. THANKFULLY he had 2 cops as witnesses and they testified that he left the area. Judge ruled that he didn’t violate the order. But then you also have who we refer to as “The Canton 9”. 9 regular citizens protesting on a sidewalk one weekend morning. Just standing there holding signs…they were followed and had their plates run and sent summonses for witness intimidation. They went before a magistrate and were told it would be 1-2 weeks before a decision was made. It’s been MONTHS! These corrupt cops are trying to intimidate us! Trying to stop us from protesting. Now the prosecutor is asking the judge to rule on a motion for a 500ft buffer zone around the courthouse. This is not okay! The feds need to hold these tyrants accountable. But thank you so much for talking about this case. I’m so glad that it’s starting to get the attention it deserves.
If you watch turtle boy the way he talks about women even Karen what was that oh yes C_NTS is kinda gross. He’s turned out to be an embarrassment for Karen. They don’t even talk to him anymore and that says a lot. All we are hearing is his version of what happened in the past with his girlfriend. If you ever go through what she had reporting it etc. you’d know NO ONE would go through that for fun, unless they are certifiable. And that’s what EVERY man says when they get hit with DV charges. “She’s crazy” “she was jealous” etc etc EVERY SINGLE ONE !!! I believe victims. And after watching him seeing his behaviour, actions he fits the MOLD!! Don’t just believe what people online always say and think for yourself. Things will never change in this world wide epidemic of violence against women, unless we do. Be a Pickme girl, up to you but not this girl.
@@AMYV3 Karen’s team isn’t talking to *anyone* not just Turtleboy. TB is crude & offensive, no doubt. But he brings receipts. There’s a reason the Commonwealth dropped the DV charge. His victim has huge credibility issues. The CW’s actions wrt TB have been extremely shady & it’s clear that they have been exploiting the accuser to get at TB, which also detracts from her credibility. She’ll have her day in court soon. I don’t think she’ll prevail because the evidence that she made false allegations against TB is pretty strong. Even I’m wrong about that outcome though, none of it has anything to do with TB’s reporting on the Karen Read case.
LTL sent me, and I want to thank y’all so much, for reviewing this case. Professor Read was most definitely framed. #JusticeForOfficerOkeefe #FreeKarenRead #FKR
The undisputed facts are disputed. I am for Karen, but for every fact that the people for Karen have, the Commonwealth has an expert to dispute. Until we hear actual expert testimony, there's too many rumors, theories , sleuths tautong what they think will be admitted at trial@@shannonelizabetheyebrowart2680
Just an interesting fact: Karen asked John to go in first to be sure they definitely where invited. The women in the house invited John not Karen. She knew these women had a friend that had dated John prior to being with John. When he did not txt her back, she was upset and started txting John cussing him out
Thank you for covering this story!! It’s an absolute disgrace Massachusetts corruption in this case is horrible. I back the blue 💯 but this case stinks!!
I bet the FBI took this situation seriously since there were other MA state trooper corruption uncovered in a big way, they were issuing CDL licenses for gifts. Passing failed drivers, some never even took the classes. Very negative show of rule breaking.
@@hollow225 also if you watch some of the court hearings the judge is disrespectful to the defense. It truly is embarrassing and shameful the bias she appears to have .
There’s so much to this case. There’s so many people in this case. This was a great overview of the case! Please consider continuing to doing a deep dive in this case. I know there’s a lot of cases out there, but this case has sooooo many layers. The DA is trying to silence the public & has been in many different ways. The most recent in court motions the DA’s motion for barriers is so insane & unconstitutional… it’s literally mind blowing. This is still America, right? 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Absolutely! @31:00 In my opinion, the words “Free Karen Read” are meant literally, because she is factually innocent. But I think a lot of us that are following this, those words mean exactly what you said! Karen Read & what’s been done to her, represents all of us, in my opinion.
Not only did she google how long to die in the cold. She also tried to type it in again later to overwrite the previous search. Her coverup was unsuccessful because she misspelled something the second time. So her search history has multiple instances of her searching for how long to die in the cold.
You guys need to watch the cross examination of Jen McCabe on Tuesday. She is the one who Googled "hos long to die in the cold" at 227am. She's been talked about thrpughout this trial and she's finally on the stand. She still has some direct questioning to be done, but the cross will be fire. Karen Read has some amazing attorneys. Many of the cross examinations have been fire and placing so much doubt. Additionally, he had a huge gash in the back of his head and they only found 6 drips of blood in the snow that they collected in solo cups. The solo cups weren't marked, logged, and somehow landed on the Sally port floor right next to Karen's car in a grocery store bag.
LTL True Crime did a reaction video to this over on his channel and asked us to come over and show you guys some love. Love the format! Looking forward to seeing more from you!
It drives me insane that he is rarely referred to as OFFICER John O'Keefe!!! Thank you for reminding everyone that he deserves more respect than he has gotten from the CW & Judge Beverly!!
When she dropped him off, a nor’easter had just started and dumped 2 feet of snow on us. The plow driver at the beginning of his shift at 2:30 said there was no body on the snow free yard.
Also, to add to Lucky's competency- the Alberts have a fire hydrant in their front yard. Snow plow drivers have to pay very close attention to such things so as not to bury them.
@@Ieezecathere was a lot. In Chicopee, there was an easy foot. Being from the snowbelt, this state has no idea how to handle snow. But, there was enough snow that if the tail light which broke at home had dropped anything, it wouldn’t be on top of the snow.
Well, now you can add the police capitan hitting a 67 year old man with a safety vest and cane in a crosswalk to the list of police sins. No one felt this was important to mention in the present day.
You guys got two things wrong. She hit Johns SUV at 5 that morning, not a pole and the taillight was cracked, not shattered. We know this because there is a pic of her SUV being put on the tow truck at 4:12 and the taillight is still intact. Proctor first said he towed it at 5:30 to give himself over an hour wth the vehicle unaccounted for, but had to change the timeline because of the photo.
If we are pointing out what wouldn’t happen at low velocity, the taillight wouldn’t “shatter” backing into a human body a low speed but you believe that?
@@mauiswift6391 the FBI even said that the damage wasn't caused by hitting a person. The pic of her SUV being towed shows the taillight intact and the pic taken by police after towing it is drastically different. Why wouldn't Proctor take a picture of the taillight before he towed it? There isn't a detective on earth that wouldn't take a picture of the shattered taillight of the murder weapon as soon as they seen it to preserve the evidence. The only reason to not take that picture right there is if they were planning something nefarious!
@@randombrandon9090 the defense said the fbi said but we do not know how they came to that conclusion. The defense said it in a court hearing but it does not affect the trial going forward.
Just watched Brian on LTL True Crime with you on it! So much is corruption in this case. Homeowners not coming out of the house to see what all the noise was about with a women screaming, leaf blower being used, lights from all the vehicles lighting up the hose, the house was not sealed off with police tape nor did police go into the house that morning, the tow truck driver did not see any damage or else he would have taken picture. Thankfully we have Brian and Turtleboy keeping us updated on this case. Peaceful protests are being done.
As an European I’ve never seen anyone pouring Sauvignon Blanc like it’s whiskey. Also, please chill your wine sir. The idea of lukewarm white wine makes my hair itch 😂
Thank you! LTL sent us to you to watch and subscribe. I love that you are covering this tragedy in MA. Officer John O’Keefe and Karen Read deserve justice. 🙏
Thanks for reviewing the Karen Read case! LOVE to hear your professional opinions about the twilight zone us MA people are living in. Sent by LTL True Crime! Looking forward to more streams from you guys ❤
Michael Proctor lied about the time Karen's car was towed and had it unaccounted for over an hr. He was caught by ring cameras at the house it was towed from
So the host says his department would hand off a traffic accident to another department but an officer involved shooting they would investigate themselves just because they wanted to speed up the process. Seriously? where does the appearance of impropriety matter more? That is completely illogical and self-serving.
@@tigerlily9536innocent people don’t google “hos long to die in cold” 3 and a half hours before the victim is found in the snow, meet with a friend to write a timeline to make sure their story is straight, get rid of their dog they’ve had for 7 years when there’s evidence of dog bites on the victim, tell 5 different officers 5 different things, tell an officer that they “found out john died” an hour and 10 minutes before he was found.. but karen didn’t do those things.
Attorney Mark Randazza is fighting the 500 ft buffer zone on behalf of all of us that have been attending hearings. We're hoping to be heard on Thursday
Cover up She hit o’keefe’s car pulling out of garage to look for him. You can see her hit and move his parked car. And I broken headlight as she drives away. But what proves she’s innocent. The sister in law at the house and later looking for John with Karen had a search at 2:something am long after Karen dropped him off and while Karen is at home sleeping searches “how long to die in cold”” That there proves this is a cover up etc.
Broken headlight??? Jen McCabe referred to it as a cracked, not broken, taillight in her testimony. There has been a lot of evidence including JM's google searches creating reasonable doubt.
Broken headlight??? Jen McCabe testified she saw a cracked, not broken, taillight. Jen McCabe is the one who did the google search and she wasn't in the house per the testimony. Karen was standing next to Jen when google was searched per the testimony. Perhaps you should watch the actual trial to get clarification.
I used to believe in prosecutors and that they were fair and honest but the last few years or so I see the political prosecutions going on and now I don’t trust the govt to do the right thing. Charging people without concrete evidence can bankrupt people and ruin their lives and families.
I would love to hear more from you guys on this case. Please do a deep dive. There’s a lot of layers! I appreciate your insight. Thank you! LTL sent me
Great show! Thank you for covering the Karen Read case and doing some research! Brian from LTL True Crime sent me here. Loved you guys just talking about the different issues & knowing how it should be! J McGue
I’ve seen everyone’s coverage on Karen. From courtTv • Law & Crime• Aiden @TurtleBoyLive •to our Local News Stations…. I Really enjoyed this Convo with u 3…
Great stream!! Found you through LTL reaction stream.. There is so much to unpack regarding this case and the corruption ! Welcome to the twilight zone. Shout out to TB daily news for investigative jourlism and exposing this injustice!
this was a great summary. FYI - the FBI is also investigating the "suicide" of Sandra Birchmore. same county, same DA, same PD, same state police investigators. it's worth a deep dive.
Gentlemen, thank you for covering this case. So much of this case effect all of us across our great country. Like how you reinvented the brief case to a briefcase of beer
Watching your show covering the John O’Keefe/Karen Reed case through the LTL True Crimes show. I love the way you approach and review the case. You’ve got a new subscriber!
There wasn’t no tail lights. Fact !!!! She’s innocent and there is so much corruption in Ma (canton) DA is totally corrupt with MSP. It’s disgusting 🤢 Justice for John O’keefe !!
LTL sent me over this morning.. Glad he found your podcast! Great insight on your part! Massachusetts needs more folks like you who see the corruption in Karen Reads case! Can’t wait to see your next show!
They didn't really touch on The whole deal with the Tail light whisper. Apparently when there was only an inch of snow when the body was found, police and investigators didn't find any tail light fragments. But later when detective tail light Whisperer came out and there was then a foot of snow, he finds a tail light fragments on the top of the snow. And then I believe I heard that he returned a second time and found more fragments.
Don’t forget blood was collected at the scene and put into red solo cups, and the red solo cups were put into a stop and shop grocery bag. The cups were left, uncovered. The whole kit and caboodle was then left beside the so-called murder weapon, which was the car, which had a dirty rag hanging from it. Said evidence was not immediately put in to the temporary evidence locker. And snow was blown off at the scene by one of the officers own leaf blower. Oh yes, these were the keystone cops.
The conspiracy / incompetence goes so much deeper than most people imagine. As I understand it, it wasn't police, and it wasn't even investigators that track it down the snow plow operator, it was an investigative reporter. This particular investigative reporter was turning up various evidence and pointing out inconsistencies, and so the police in persecutors decided to throw him in jail to shut him up.
Can you guys read over the motion to disqualify? Even though she denied it- would love to hear your opinions!! Lots of us could send the motion and denial to you!!
In New Mexico, the prosecution has to present exculpatory evidence provided by defense. Its referenced in the Alec Baldwin motion for dismissal. All states should adopt this.
How refreshing .... discussion that makes sense coming from 3 gentlemen stepping back and looking with fresh intelligent "no irons in the fire" common sense eyes. Subscribed and looking forward to more of the same
Thank you for referring to John as Officer O’Keefe. I truly appreciate it.
Yeah , You Must Understand If There Was a Plumber Or Another Cop Died On Lawn John Would Be Lying And Covering Up For The Other Cops It's Just The Way The Cops Work , Cops Lie For Cops PERIOD...........
Another strange thing was that the officer who owned the house where this happened, didn’t even come outside when a dead body of a friend was found in his front yard. All the first responders there, two phone calls made to the house and the homeowners stayed inside 🤔
And then sold the house below market value
wait, I've heard most of that, but what are the two phone calls to the house? Who called the house?
I've often thought that was one of the craziest facts of the case, that nobody came out of the Alberts home, and even Jen McCabe, who was outside with Karen but had been previously in the house, stood outside and didn't call anyone from the house to come out.
They could have had police officers from inside the house performing CPR or securing the scene or offering aid before help from the 9-1-1 call even arrived!
@lydialutz and to add to that question, the owners of the house were Brian & Nicole Albert, Jen McCabes, sister & brother in law. Why wouldn't she run in the house to check on them & their kids? This case is full of soooo many questions, twists, turns & lies. Officer John O'Keefe deserves better. Karen Read & her family deserve better. Officer John O'Keefes' niece & nephew deserve sooooo much more, those poor kids
@@lynda0814 great point, why wasn’t Jen M banging on the front door to let her sister and BIL know what’s going on in their own yard, the death of their friend! Makes no sense.
@@lydialutz I hope I’m not remembering that incorrectly, but I thought Jen M attempted to reach her sister by phone and they didn’t answer or it went to vm
It’s great to hear this analysis from people who haven’t been invested in the case for a year and have legal expertise. Well done!
This judge seems hinky. She should recuse herself but refuses. The judge was moved to civil court but kept this case.? Why?
Exactly. Judges are supposed to recuse themselves if there is even a possibility of APPEARING partial to a case. One of the alleged co-conspirator's brothers threated to bury a journalist at the judges vacation home (a vacation home he correctly identified) for reporting on the story. Then in the judge's response to the motion to dismiss, she referred to one of the Alberts in this case, a family she claimed to not know at all. However, only Brian and Kevin Albert have been mentioned in this case yet she correctly mistook one of said brothers as Tim, the actual brother not mentioned in this case once. Hinky is an understatement.
There's the million dollar question
It's her chance as a judge in national TV and potential book deal lol.
Aunt Bev says it all
The detail that yall are going into the grand jury process is refreshing. You should stick with this case in more detail. It's worth it. One correction to make: Brian Higgins is not investigating the Karen Reed case. He is an ATF agent and he is considered a witness in this case as he was in the house prior/during John's arrival.
** Whos office is located in the Canton Police Department too 😉
@carolineforth4261 ***Who went to work drunk at 1:30 am that night...
@@Ieezeca And had a phone but somehow got permission to destroy it, yet he just so happened to print out all his messages beforehand on paper to claim that Karen wanted him more than John (because a jilted lover should never be a suspect?). These characters lol
@@technigeneric Good, Good. Very few have caught that.
Or to say another way, the FBI said Okeefe wasn’t hit by Karen Reads car and the car didn’t hit Officer OKeefe
Yes I agree with
However there’s been interviews with diseased victims Brother
And his opinion is mind boggling he is so convinced that Karen killed his Brother.and he think that the FBI shouldn’t have been involved in the case.. because they are interfering with the truth..
Give credit where credit is due. It was Turtleboy from Turtleboy Live that tracked down the snowplow driver. It was not the police that tracked him down originally.
I think Lucky tried to contact the police several times and was blown off.
@@Ieezecais that true?
@@Ieezeca that's right I remember hearing that
@@samanthasmile7746 I THINK he might be the source of the Ford Edge sighting outside the house.
Technically a federal agent and Karen's private investigator talked to him first but obviously it was kept secret, Turtleboy aired it out
There are so many layers to this case it’s crazy. But don’t forget, they also framed the journalist that exposed them as well. They locked him up for 60 days after they got an angry ex to say he assaulted her, the assault was that she fell back onto her couch 🤨. The charges were dropped the day he got out of jail, but she still had the restraining order against him. Then he showed up to the next Karen Read hearing, as he always does and she magically shows up (for the first time ever) after he’s already sitting in the courtroom. He sees her and leaves immediately. They file charges that he violated the order and try to put him back in jail, this time for 120 days. THANKFULLY he had 2 cops as witnesses and they testified that he left the area. Judge ruled that he didn’t violate the order. But then you also have who we refer to as “The Canton 9”. 9 regular citizens protesting on a sidewalk one weekend morning. Just standing there holding signs…they were followed and had their plates run and sent summonses for witness intimidation. They went before a magistrate and were told it would be 1-2 weeks before a decision was made. It’s been MONTHS! These corrupt cops are trying to intimidate us! Trying to stop us from protesting. Now the prosecutor is asking the judge to rule on a motion for a 500ft buffer zone around the courthouse. This is not okay! The feds need to hold these tyrants accountable. But thank you so much for talking about this case. I’m so glad that it’s starting to get the attention it deserves.
If you watch turtle boy the way he talks about women even Karen what was that oh yes C_NTS is kinda gross. He’s turned out to be an embarrassment for Karen. They don’t even talk to him anymore and that says a lot.
All we are hearing is his version of what happened in the past with his girlfriend. If you ever go through what she had reporting it etc. you’d know NO ONE would go through that for fun, unless they are certifiable. And that’s what EVERY man says when they get hit with DV charges. “She’s crazy” “she was jealous” etc etc EVERY SINGLE ONE !!! I believe victims. And after watching him seeing his behaviour, actions he fits the MOLD!! Don’t just believe what people online always say and think for yourself. Things will never change in this world wide epidemic of violence against women, unless we do. Be a Pickme girl, up to you but not this girl.
@@AMYV3 Karen’s team isn’t talking to *anyone* not just Turtleboy.
TB is crude & offensive, no doubt. But he brings receipts.
There’s a reason the Commonwealth dropped the DV charge. His victim has huge credibility issues. The CW’s actions wrt TB have been extremely shady & it’s clear that they have been exploiting the accuser to get at TB, which also detracts from her credibility.
She’ll have her day in court soon. I don’t think she’ll prevail because the evidence that she made false allegations against TB is pretty strong.
Even I’m wrong about that outcome though, none of it has anything to do with TB’s reporting on the Karen Read case.
WOW!!
There is a bunch of misinformation in this comment. Why not look into the truth?@@AMYV3
Thanks LTL for introducing us to this channel! I love how easy it is to understand everything!
LTL sent me, and I want to thank y’all so much, for reviewing this case. Professor Read was most definitely framed. #JusticeForOfficerOkeefe #FreeKarenRead #FKR
If I were her students, I would be bringing groups to the trial to protest. They all say wonderful things about her.
@@Ieezeca Maybe they do go.. she has lots of peaceful protestors supporting her, and thank goodness for that..
@TheMsLipps I hope so, i have read many articles saying she was an exceptionally teacher that would always help more if needed.
@@Ieezeca I’ve read the same. In fact I’ve only read good things about her coming from her students..
Youre going to need another Bottle if ya gonna talk about this Case 😂😂
Karen Read is Factually innocent 💯💯
Factually? Like what facts make her innocent?
Watch this segment. They cover what the undisputed facts of the case are.
@@mauiswift6391John O’Keefe had dog bites/scratches on his arm. Last time I checked, cars don’t have teeth
The undisputed facts are disputed. I am for Karen, but for every fact that the people for Karen have, the Commonwealth has an expert to dispute. Until we hear actual expert testimony, there's too many rumors, theories , sleuths tautong what they think will be admitted at trial@@shannonelizabetheyebrowart2680
This is like Karen Read 101 for dummies 🤣 so many inaccuracies
Thank you for covering this!! Thank you LTL for introducing us to this channel!! 🐢🐢
What is LTL?
Just an interesting fact: Karen asked John to go in first to be sure they definitely where invited. The women in the house invited John not Karen. She knew these women had a friend that had dated John prior to being with John. When he did not txt her back, she was upset and started txting John cussing him out
Oh really, more info to know!
Thank you for covering this case in layman's terms. Thank you, LTL True Crime for sharing this channel
Thank you for covering this story!! It’s an absolute disgrace Massachusetts corruption in this case is horrible. I back the blue 💯 but this case stinks!!
The man who lost his life, he was was Boston police officer, John O’Keefe. Karen did not do it. Thank you for covering this.
I bet the FBI took this situation seriously since there were other MA state trooper corruption uncovered in a big way, they were issuing CDL licenses for gifts. Passing failed drivers, some never even took the classes. Very negative show of rule breaking.
They are also investigating the Sandra Birchmore case as well. The same law enforcement are involved in that case as well as the Karen Read case
AGREE 💯
@@joann5075 I had no idea about this case. What a disturbing story.
@@hollow225 it is beyond disturbing. Check out turtleboy he is crass, but he broke this case wide open. The corruption is a huge eye opener .
@@hollow225 also if you watch some of the court hearings the judge is disrespectful to the defense. It truly is embarrassing and shameful the bias she appears to have .
There’s so much to this case. There’s so many people in this case.
This was a great overview of the case! Please consider continuing to doing a deep dive in this case. I know there’s a lot of cases out there, but this case has sooooo many layers.
The DA is trying to silence the public & has been in many different ways. The most recent in court motions the DA’s motion for barriers is so insane & unconstitutional… it’s literally mind blowing. This is still America, right? 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Absolutely! @31:00
In my opinion, the words “Free Karen Read” are meant literally, because she is factually innocent. But I think a lot of us that are following this, those words mean exactly what you said! Karen Read & what’s been done to her, represents all of us, in my opinion.
Not only did she google how long to die in the cold. She also tried to type it in again later to overwrite the previous search. Her coverup was unsuccessful because she misspelled something the second time. So her search history has multiple instances of her searching for how long to die in the cold.
It wasn't Karen that googled that it was one if the women in the house
@@marinamcallister572 it was McAbe
She also deleted like 21 or 26 calls and messages at that time in her phone.
You guys need to watch the cross examination of Jen McCabe on Tuesday. She is the one who Googled "hos long to die in the cold" at 227am. She's been talked about thrpughout this trial and she's finally on the stand. She still has some direct questioning to be done, but the cross will be fire. Karen Read has some amazing attorneys. Many of the cross examinations have been fire and placing so much doubt.
Additionally, he had a huge gash in the back of his head and they only found 6 drips of blood in the snow that they collected in solo cups. The solo cups weren't marked, logged, and somehow landed on the Sally port floor right next to Karen's car in a grocery store bag.
@@marinamcallister572 It was Jen McCabe and she wasn't in the house when she did the google searches.
Thank you for covering this case!!! We appreciate you‼️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
LTL True Crime did a reaction video to this over on his channel and asked us to come over and show you guys some love. Love the format! Looking forward to seeing more from you!
Thank you from Massachusetts!! I'm glad you all see this case for what it is, great job reporting on it!!!
Thank you for coving the case, and referring to him as Officer O’Keefe LTL sent us to you guys! Thanks for the content
OFFICER Okeefe….He was an Boston police officer
It drives me insane that he is rarely referred to as OFFICER John O'Keefe!!! Thank you for reminding everyone that he deserves more respect than he has gotten from the CW & Judge Beverly!!
@@lynda0814 it’s political, the silly world we leave in.
When she dropped him off, a nor’easter had just started and dumped 2 feet of snow on us. The plow driver at the beginning of his shift at 2:30 said there was no body on the snow free yard.
Two feet of snow doesn't happen instantaneously. There still wasn't 2 feet at 7am.
Also, to add to Lucky's competency- the Alberts have a fire hydrant in their front yard. Snow plow drivers have to pay very close attention to such things so as not to bury them.
@@Ieezecathere was a lot. In Chicopee, there was an easy foot. Being from the snowbelt, this state has no idea how to handle snow. But, there was enough snow that if the tail light which broke at home had dropped anything, it wouldn’t be on top of the snow.
Thanks for a great stream! Karen Read supporter here and am following after finding you from LTL.
Well, now you can add the police capitan hitting a 67 year old man with a safety vest and cane in a crosswalk to the list of police sins. No one felt this was important to mention in the present day.
The fact the it was kept from the public until someone brought it out is infuriating!
You guys got two things wrong. She hit Johns SUV at 5 that morning, not a pole and the taillight was cracked, not shattered. We know this because there is a pic of her SUV being put on the tow truck at 4:12 and the taillight is still intact. Proctor first said he towed it at 5:30 to give himself over an hour wth the vehicle unaccounted for, but had to change the timeline because of the photo.
That is an opinion not a factual based that it cracked on his vehicle and which would not happen with that velocity.
If we are pointing out what wouldn’t happen at low velocity, the taillight wouldn’t “shatter” backing into a human body a low speed but you believe that?
@@Shellycarr0630 are you an engineer in accident reconstruction?
@@mauiswift6391 the FBI even said that the damage wasn't caused by hitting a person. The pic of her SUV being towed shows the taillight intact and the pic taken by police after towing it is drastically different. Why wouldn't Proctor take a picture of the taillight before he towed it? There isn't a detective on earth that wouldn't take a picture of the shattered taillight of the murder weapon as soon as they seen it to preserve the evidence. The only reason to not take that picture right there is if they were planning something nefarious!
@@randombrandon9090 the defense said the fbi said but we do not know how they came to that conclusion. The defense said it in a court hearing but it does not affect the trial going forward.
thanks for covering this! i can tell that y’all did your research!
Just watched Brian on LTL True Crime with you on it! So much is corruption in this case. Homeowners not coming out of the house to see what all the noise was about with a women screaming, leaf blower being used, lights from all the vehicles lighting up the hose, the house was not sealed off with police tape nor did police go into the house that morning, the tow truck driver did not see any damage or else he would have taken picture. Thankfully we have Brian and Turtleboy keeping us updated on this case. Peaceful protests are being done.
As an European I’ve never seen anyone pouring Sauvignon Blanc like it’s whiskey. Also, please chill your wine sir. The idea of lukewarm white wine makes my hair itch 😂
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Thank you! LTL sent us to you to watch and subscribe. I love that you are covering this tragedy in MA. Officer John O’Keefe and Karen Read deserve justice. 🙏
Thanks for reviewing the Karen Read case! LOVE to hear your professional opinions about the twilight zone us MA people are living in. Sent by LTL True Crime! Looking forward to more streams from you guys ❤
New sub here, I came from LTL True Crime....Karen Read case discussion was reasoned and well presented. Thank you!!
LTL True Crime recommended this live stream! Great job on your coverage of this egregious case. This Mass resident thanks you!
Thank you so much for covering this. You guys did a great job!
Michael Proctor lied about the time Karen's car was towed and had it unaccounted for over an hr. He was caught by ring cameras at the house it was towed from
These characters are family friends ...which they originally denied ,some went to school together
@jimmydee2171 Michael Proctors mother has called the Albert's their second family
So the host says his department would hand off a traffic accident to another department but an officer involved shooting they would investigate themselves just because they wanted to speed up the process. Seriously? where does the appearance of impropriety matter more? That is completely illogical and self-serving.
@LTLTRUECRIME Just came from Brian's channel. He just showed this video on his live. We all absolutely loved the way you guys covered this!!!!!!
The state grand jury wasn't told the cause of death was undetermined.
Or that there's a federal investigation.
A blind person can see that Karen read is innocent
Innocent people don't "backtrack"...
@@tigerlily9536innocent people don’t google “hos long to die in cold” 3 and a half hours before the victim is found in the snow, meet with a friend to write a timeline to make sure their story is straight, get rid of their dog they’ve had for 7 years when there’s evidence of dog bites on the victim, tell 5 different officers 5 different things, tell an officer that they “found out john died” an hour and 10 minutes before he was found.. but karen didn’t do those things.
@@tigerlily9536law enforcement investigates
@@tigerlily9536She backtracked? That is clearly not what the evidence showed.
Very succinctly explained. Please continue with your input on this case.
Attorney Mark Randazza is fighting the 500 ft buffer zone on behalf of all of us that have been attending hearings. We're hoping to be heard on Thursday
Cover up
She hit o’keefe’s car pulling out of garage to look for him. You can see her hit and move his parked car. And I broken headlight as she drives away. But what proves she’s innocent. The sister in law at the house and later looking for John with Karen had a search at 2:something am long after Karen dropped him off and while Karen is at home sleeping searches “how long to die in cold”” That there proves this is a cover up etc.
Broken headlight??? Jen McCabe referred to it as a cracked, not broken, taillight in her testimony. There has been a lot of evidence including JM's google searches creating reasonable doubt.
Broken headlight??? Jen McCabe testified she saw a cracked, not broken, taillight. Jen McCabe is the one who did the google search and she wasn't in the house per the testimony. Karen was standing next to Jen when google was searched per the testimony. Perhaps you should watch the actual trial to get clarification.
I used to believe in prosecutors and that they were fair and honest but the last few years or so I see the political prosecutions going on and now I don’t trust the govt to do the right thing. Charging people without concrete evidence can bankrupt people and ruin their lives and families.
And it’s costing so much money for the tax payers. They could be using these resources to go after real criminals.
🚨JUSTICE FOR BOSTON POLICE OFFICER JOHN O'KEEFE ⚖️
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You guys are great! This case is full of corruption! #freekarenread & #justiceforjohnokeefe
Brian from LTL True Crime suggested watching, great show! Thanks for covering the case! #FreeKarenRead!
They did not find red tail light pieces until later that night hours after body was removed.
I would love to hear more from you guys on this case. Please do a deep dive. There’s a lot of layers! I appreciate your insight. Thank you! LTL sent me
Great show! Thank you for covering the Karen Read case and doing some research! Brian from LTL True Crime sent me here. Loved you guys just talking about the different issues & knowing how it should be! J McGue
I’ve seen everyone’s coverage on Karen. From courtTv • Law & Crime• Aiden @TurtleBoyLive •to our Local News Stations…. I Really enjoyed this Convo with u 3…
Great stream!! Found you through LTL reaction stream..
There is so much to unpack regarding this case and the corruption ! Welcome to the twilight zone.
Shout out to TB daily news for investigative jourlism and exposing this injustice!
this was a great summary. FYI - the FBI is also investigating the "suicide" of Sandra Birchmore. same county, same DA, same PD, same state police investigators. it's worth a deep dive.
Just watched this on LTL True Crime. Great job!
Great Karen Read coverage. LTL Podcast introduced us to your channel.
Thank you for covering this case!!
Gentlemen, thank you for covering this case. So much of this case effect all of us across our great country. Like how you reinvented the brief case to a briefcase of beer
Watching your show covering the John O’Keefe/Karen Reed case through the LTL True Crimes show. I love the way you approach and review the case. You’ve got a new subscriber!
Thank you for discussing this case! FREE Karen Read JUSTICE for Officer John O'Keefe
There wasn’t no tail lights. Fact !!!! She’s innocent and there is so much corruption in Ma (canton) DA is totally corrupt with MSP. It’s disgusting 🤢 Justice for John O’keefe !!
Let’s not forget the cop destroyed their phone and SIM card after being given a preservation order.
He destroyed it in October. The preservation order was served in September.
LTL sent me over this morning.. Glad he found your podcast! Great insight on your part! Massachusetts needs more folks like you who see the corruption in Karen Reads case! Can’t wait to see your next show!
They didn't really touch on The whole deal with the Tail light whisper. Apparently when there was only an inch of snow when the body was found, police and investigators didn't find any tail light fragments. But later when detective tail light Whisperer came out and there was then a foot of snow, he finds a tail light fragments on the top of the snow. And then I believe I heard that he returned a second time and found more fragments.
Here from LTL CZcams channel. Excellent discussion. I subscribed and will definitely be checking out all your content.
Don’t forget blood was collected at the scene and put into red solo cups, and the red solo cups were put into a stop and shop grocery bag. The cups were left, uncovered. The whole kit and caboodle was then left beside the so-called murder weapon, which was the car, which had a dirty rag hanging from it. Said evidence was not immediately put in to the temporary evidence locker. And snow was blown off at the scene by one of the officers own leaf blower. Oh yes, these were the keystone cops.
Just watched your podcast on LTL. Excellent analysis!!
The conspiracy / incompetence goes so much deeper than most people imagine. As I understand it, it wasn't police, and it wasn't even investigators that track it down the snow plow operator, it was an investigative reporter. This particular investigative reporter was turning up various evidence and pointing out inconsistencies, and so the police in persecutors decided to throw him in jail to shut him up.
Thank you loved this coverage -thank you to LTL for sending us to you.
@TurtleboyLive is the one that broke this story and is actually facing charges from same DA he has accused of being corrupt.
LTL Truecrime sent me over here and I am so glad! Love your take on all this and just subscribed!!!!
Found your stream from LTL True Crime. Thank you for covering this case!
Sent by Ltl. Thanks for bringing this to light. #FKR
20:00 your dad sounds like the DA who sought justice. Now they just seek conviction.
LTL showed us your video. Great discussion on this case. Thanks.
4/16/2024 and the defense still hasn’t rec’d information from the prosecutor. And “Aunt Bev”the Judge is familiar with this group of ppl.
LTL True Crime introduced me to your podcast! Love it!
Sounds like the DA owes some fav to push this case forward.
There is definitely fire here, too much smoke.
Thanks for covering and discussing this case. I was sent over by LTL True Crime. Can't wait to check out your other videos!
Nice job, gentlemen. Will be watching for more :)
Saw you on LTL true crime who recommended you ... enjoyed it thanks
I believe Judge McAfee would call it the odor of mendacity 😂
Found your channel through LTL :-) from Ottawa, Ontario
Can you guys read over the motion to disqualify? Even though she denied it- would love to hear your opinions!! Lots of us could send the motion and denial to you!!
Actually- I mean the denial of the motion, go over that and express your opinions 😊
In New Mexico, the prosecution has to present exculpatory evidence provided by defense. Its referenced in the Alec Baldwin motion for dismissal. All states should adopt this.
Ltl true crime sent us over 😊 Thanks for your insight
Thank you for covering this! Great job. FYI, LTL send me over and I am a fan!
thank you for covering this case! BTW, the guy in the red tie was never given the floor to finish his thoughts
Great information especially about how grand juries work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Prosecutors have more power than judges - and they wield that power over entire communities
Ltl had you guys on. Your great. Happy to follow
THIS WAS EDUCATIONAL!!!
How refreshing .... discussion that makes sense coming from 3 gentlemen stepping back and looking with fresh intelligent "no irons in the fire" common sense eyes. Subscribed and looking forward to more of the same
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That's exactly what I thought.
Would love to see you cover the handling of the motions, etc.
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Great discussion.
Brilliant discussion 😊
Thanks for watching!
Great job fellas.