Why Gravel is Better Than DIRT 5
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- After being let down by DIRT 5, I hesitantly tried out Gravel. It's a game inspired by the DiRT series, and it actually surpasses DIRT 5 in many ways, despise being made with a lower budget. This video dives into why I feel Gravel is a much better game than DIRT 5
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0:00 - Intro
0:34 - Presentation
2:33 - Race Courses
4:29 - Vehicle Physics
6:31 - Ending
Links
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My Steam Profile: steamcommunity.com/id/AlexKVi...
Twitter: / gameralexvideos
Music
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Spiked - Simon Painte
Pushing the Chains - Thomas Hirschmann
Steel Hammer - Pierre Gerwig Lagner - Hry
Gravel is by far one of the most underrated racing games ever.
Gravel is by far the best off road video game:
Detailed, beautiful graphics,
Perfect physics: brake, acceleration, rollover, teasing, drifting, acceleration in water, control on ice, ...
I played through the game several times from start to finish.
Oh, and the difficulty levels is also very well optimized, as is the machine requirement.
I really like Gravel for all this and because it perfectly engages me with the composition of all of them.
GRAVEL 9.5/10
If you believe in Gravel, VOTE with your MONEY!!!
Seeing how good Gravel is and the fact it was on sale for about the same amount of money as a bag of fruit gummies, it was a no-brainer for me 😎
Gravel was £1.59 on the store, so i bought it.. and it's safe to say, it's the most fun I've had on an arcade racing game sice Dirt 3.
Gravel is so underrated. I got it around the time it came out, when I was looking for something new to play, and I came across it on the Xbox store. I highly recommend it over the complete disappointment of Dirt 5.
I think that it's the first time I've heard of Gravel and WHY IS IT THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD OF GRAVEL?!
Better late than never!
Because it was quickly forgotten by the community.
Lack of promotions
Get it, you won't be disappointed.
Too generic. - Just play "DiRT 2/3". Or if you want something more over the top, try to find a way to play the "MotorStorm" games, which I think is what 'Gravel' probably should've went for. - This studio went on to do the "Hot Wheels Unleashed" games, which makes more sense to do arcade-racers with, but yea...
Know Gravel for quite sometime but I was hesitant. But watching this makes me wanna get it. Also, Milestone defeats Codemaster? Holy !
You should definitely give it a try! And in this case, I would definitely say Milestone gave us a better DiRT styled game than Codemasters lol
I enjoy DiRT 5 for what it is as it reminded me of Gravel, but I honestly will say that Gravel is a lot better! Gravel's graphics are nice, and the gameplay is solid, only thing it lacks is vehicle customization, I would have been happy with just, more paint jobs and accessories. In terms of Car Variety, Gravel wins by far, going as far as including unorthodox vehicles like the Armored Operation DLC is one of the most interesting additions ever. Milestone, please greenlight Gravel 2, it has SOOO much potential for being a straightforward off-road racer focusing on pure racing fun! DiRT 5 was probably mistaken upon as being another successor to DiRT 4, but I can understand why it changed because of DiRT 4's commercial failure, to take the series in a new direction. It's a disappointment how DiRT 5 didn't include replays after the race.
Dirt 5 are great ❤ fuck ea destroy the series
Dirt 3 and 4 were very different games, but both worth experiencing still. I just don't like the looks of Dirt 5 and I'm glad I discovered Gravel, because I needed more variety!
Great video. I put a fair bit of time into Dirt 5 as it was free for PS5 on PS Plus. I had some fun with it but the issues didnt take long to appear. Gravel on the other hand has been amazing, one of my favourite racing games in recent years. I've blitzed through every career race/DLC. Loved every second.
Great video! I've always felt Gravel doesn't get enough credit for feeling like a good Dirt 2 follow up. It has the same attitude, fun vehicle physics, and unique track design!
Which then leads to the question why isn't Dirt 2 on the Backwards compatibility program yet?
Totally agree. Got platinum in both games, Gravel is a much better experience and even feature some of the legendary group S cars and the legendary Estering track which is in the same town that I live in and next week I'm gonna go there to watch!
I found out about this game around launch with the demo on xbox. I thought it played decently but didn't pick it up until years later. I bought a Logitech wheel and shifter and started getting more racing games to play. This ended up being one of my favorites to use with a wheel and just about have fun. This is also considering I had played a bit of dirt 5 but got bored so quickly and thought the car list was so lackluster compared to Gravel. Truly an underrated racing title
Gravel and Dirt 5 both are fun to play but Gravel has the better selection of cars in my opinion. Overall, I feel that both games are really good but Gravel's got a very Sega Rally vibe to me that I had been missing for a long time. But Dirt 5 is the most active of the two and is still very fun to play to this day.
Great job, you’ve just sold a copy of gravel - just purchased it after watching your video and looking forward to trying it out!
I hope you enjoy it!
1:20 meanwhile Dirt 2 managed to make very conving conversions of cars that never even hit the dirt. I was shocked when I first played the game and discovered the Eclipse was never a rally car. Not to mention the Rallycross and Trailblazer versions which I'm pretty sure we're enterly fictional on every car , but still no less convincing.
The SUV's fared well too, even the most stock looking ones (like the hummer hx concept) were modified in a manner that a manufacturer would go about doing it for promotion, keeping it as close looking to stock as possible (kinda like how Ford did with the Raptor they used for the baja 1000)
After today i bought Gravel. I cannot wait to play. I love Simcade rally games and the cars and vistas look superb. Special edition is 2.48 on PS Store
I got both and enjoy them but if I only could keep 1 it have to Gravel. I glad I go it on day 1 with all of it DLC even the army cars feel different and the location are perfect. Don't forget Gravel has real world tracks even if the Speedcross (Rallycross) don't have the Joker Lane to the tracks!
Currently on sale for PlayStation, $2.60 Canadian. The games probably $0.99 US
Dirt 5 wins in the graphics department - no contest. Some of those tracks looks absolutely stunning - an unforgivable tragedy that Codemasters refused - yes, refused despite countless requests from players - to include a camera replay mode (despite clearly having built one in, as can be seen in the immediate after-race menu display; it's just never made accessible to the user).
Gravel is a perfectly competent racer with a nice variety of good-looking tracks (bolstered by a strong DLC line-up), but it never quite reaches the visual beauty of Dirt 5.
Both games illustrate how frustrating things can get for the racing fan. Each has major plus points; each is undermined by baffling, often frustrating flaws. I honestly can't decide which of the two is 'better' in any meaningful way.
Competent is better than reaching tryhard status, thats for sure. as for DiRT 5, I still can get some enjoyment out of it. Here's hoping for Gravel 2.
The best thing about Dirt 5 is the Split-screen option. You can play with others in your home.
@@death2ableis that the only car game currently that has that option?
very underrated game in my opinion. This always gave me a mix of Sega Rally and Motorstorm vibes.
Well tbf, Gravel wasn't Milestone's first rodeo. Prior, they were the developer of the WRC games up until 4 iirc.
They only did 4 of the many mainline WRC-games. They did many more MotoGP-games, while they also did 4 "Ride"-games, and they were the ones that created the "Screamer" games wayyy in the beginning. - Today they're known for the 'Hot Wheels Unleashed' games.
Just bought the Special Edition on PS Plus for $2.99, it already had 5 free dlc can't wait to play it
What's the song used in 4:02? reminds me of crash time honestly
Its Steel Hammer by Pierre Gerwig Lagner. It is a song from one of the Crash Time games! I use their soundtracks a lot in my videos now.
@@GamerAlexVideos aight, thanks a lot
I liked everything you said about Dirt 5 as an ARCADE game over Gravel
Gravel is also an arcade racer too...
Thanks man.
I played dirt 5 for a little bit. thought it looked great on PS5 and was Fun. But i also own Gravel and i almost dug into dirt 5 and didn't Install gravel.
Gravel from you and the comments here have swayed me to give it a go.
Dirt 2 and 3 were so great. Dirt 5 shouldnt be called „Dirt“
DiRT Showdown 2 would have been fine.
@@tropixx_xlr1549 yes
Dirt 2 îs better than all dirt series it has fantastic phisics and traction control of cars almost realistic that i never seen în modern rally and racing games
Did you even play Dirt 4? 💀
Gravel vs Dirt vs Asphalt
These are interesting name for racing games.
I also wonder what happened to the game “Rail”, “Water”, and “Air”….
Asphalt does had a spin-off off road game called Asphalt Xtreme, which i'm pretty sure Alex is gonna's having a massive concussion when he finds out that newer gen Mercedes DTM in that game does just as good as them purpose built cars & trucks made to tackle the harshest roads possible, just when he thought Dirt 5 had lots of cars that wasn't even built for going to roads
I'm pretty sure most people have never even heard of gravel and its sad
I haven't played gravel but i will try this game
I definitely recommend the game when it goes on sale. It's certainly worth giving it a shot!
I played a little bit gravel, it is a good game
I played Dirt 5 ("free" on PS+ once) and dropped it halfway through the campaign. I don't mind illogical arcade physics (I played Ridge Racer Type 4 and love it) but Dirt 5's handling isn't great, usually even in games with slidey car physics there's a method to corner properly and you can maintain a racing line as if on rails ala Midnight Club, but in Dirt 5 there is no such method. Everytime you corner it's inconsistent what is the fastest way to clear it, sometimes flooring it is the best yet another time in the same corner you turns wide and hit the barrier.
The car balancing is also pure garbage, it is practically impossible to compete in the lowest tier car of a specific class, most shouldn't even be considered to be in the same class at all. The Peugeot 306 Maxi is one prominent example because it is significantly slower than everything else in it's class and not even have the luxury of having better handling.
Initially I also dropped Gravel because I wasn't in the mood to play it, but I reinstalled it 2 years ago and completed the game in one sitting. The core gameplay is very fun, car handles good and the variety of tracks you mentioned really helped the game from getting too stale. The balancing is way better than Dirt 5, even driving the worst car in your type it is conceivable to be competitive against the other cars as long as you have the skill. Have I mentioned the car list is amazing? One of the few games to have the Toyoya 222D, a Group S prototype based off the Toyota MR-2, it's very cool.
To me Gravel is like a PS2 era game made with modern tech (if you ignore that it have DLCs), solid game that feels a bit budgety but is fun throughout. Dirt 5 is a mess that wants to be a game from other past series, but fails to do anything competently; it wants to be Motorstorm but it's not even half as fun or chaotic, it wants to be Dirt Showdown but didn't commit to the festival vibes as hard and have worse physics to boot. For a triple A game, Dirt 5 somehow feels even more low-budget than Gravel at times.
doesnt cornering depend on the surface and road conditions? if you play on certain tracks when the weather changes you have to race differently
@@LIlFro- did you miss the _"in the same corner"_ part? In fact it's in the same corner of the same race with no weather change.
@@shira_yone idk sounds like you arent good to me
@@LIlFro- the game's inconsistency is considered a skill issue now? Sure, one can learn to minimize the effects of it, but it still exist and thus valid subject of criticism (which you seemingly missed the point of by pulling the git gud card).
Not claiming to be some sweaty hardcore racing game expert, but I've been playing a variety of games from this genre that I loved for more than a decade; experiencing handling physics as atrocious as The Fast and the Furious (PS2) and NFS'15, unconventional mechanically low depth handling from strange CaRPG games such as Racing Lagoon or ChoroQ, to authentic (not ultra realistic) feeling games like Driveclub and Dirt Rally.
Dirt 5's handling isn't insultingly bad but it's far from good, and for a pretty barebones racing game with no other activity to distract you from just repetitively racing from start to finish, that is terrible news. Even reusing Dirt 4's handling would've easily turned this game from a 5/10 to a 7/10.
You nailed it with this video. I keep wanting to like Dirt 5 each time I play it, but each time I try, it disappoints. Gravel is always good time each time I play it. Gravel all the way.
The thing is that well, dirt 2 and dirt 3 used to combine rally and some other fun modes all together. Tight tracks but also big stadiums
Now, we have WRC and Dirt Rally on one hand - well, pretty much sim games without any fun modes that can get boring. I play WRC 10 from time to time - I simply don't play it all the time cos it's realism sometimes triggers me xd even though I love tight tracks, I think that driving on them all the time can get frustrating when after 10 km u crash and ruin your time completely
On the other hand we have games like dirt 5 - that have pretty much nothing in common with rally - but have fun modes.
Gravel has wiiiide tracks and is fun, but I do miss some tracks like in WRC. If only someone could combine it, really
The "middle of the road" option is indeed just "DiRT 2/3", which they shouldn't have strayed from and I recommend over any later game, including 'Gravel'. - But 'Gravel' just seems like it should've gone even further over-the-top and been like "MotorStorm". There's no reason for this game to LOOK so "toned down" when it has the action it does (sliding all across the tracks at breakneck speeds). At that point, just make it more spectacular, again, like "MotorStorm" or something, and just put more fun into the design of it. - There's no point in giving it "real"-looking cars or even environments, as it just makes it look bland and generic, which ultimately it is. - Eventually, Milestone went on to do the "Hot Wheels Unleashed" games, which is probably for the best, combining arcade-racing with that style of presentation. Just a shame they had to milk the first game with over 250 Dollars worth of DLC and then also made another game of basically the same...
I got gravel on the xbox one for Christmas when I got into xbox party one of them asked wtf is gravel oh its a rally game it was fun
Great review. I am going to get Gravel because of your review.
I hope you enjoy it!
Couldn't agree with you more. Dirt 5 is a great looking game, but that's about it. Gravel was a blast to play with both pad and wheel setup. Beat the entire game and all the dlc. This video makes me wanna do it again.
GT7's rally is way under-rated. Now with VR. GT7 is one of the best racing game.
gravel is great, i found it on sale and buy all the content, i have fun playing it, although the fun has ended because the dlc didn't show up in my steam client, i still have it in my account tho, hoping for it to shows up again one day
Weird... Good thing you didn't spend the 250+ Dollars on the Hot Wheels Unleashed (same studio) DLC then...
@@michaelmonstar4276 hot wheels unleashed dlc model is a nightmare, how tf is a car dlc is more expensive than a real hot wheels💀
Oh wow, a game I liked myself! I know you don't care for Hotshot Racing (I love that game, warts and all), but I do love Gravel a lot!
I have never played gravel, but I think I’m going to have to play it now! And Dirt 5’s physics just look ridiculous 😮
I loved Dirt 4 so I was excited for Dirt 5, all they had to do was make Dirt 4 with a slightly better career and npc models that aren't copy and pasted. Unfortunately I'm staying with Dirt 4. I didn't come to dirt 5 to play forza.
Now understand why Dirt Five feels like just another race game, is not more Dirt, I really enjoy when I’m playing Dirt 2 because I feel like Rally Game and Dirt it must to be that.
Just picked up Gravel special edition for £3.69 in the current sony sale. Its a real blast!!!
i never liked racing games until i met Dirt 5. What a game, it looks and feels so amazing
You should try dirt 3. A much better version of the same thing.
@KingVendrick18 I found it to the sweet spot for me. But I dig what you're saying. 2 and 3 are leagues above 5.
yea same that game is sick
Play Dirt 4. Dirt 5 is monkey 💩
codemaster chesire are the one disolved devolution studios. they clearly tried to do a fisher price motorsotorm with licensed cars.
As someone whos played dirt since 2, and liked all of them in some way. Dirt 5 had absolutely nothing about it that appealed to me enough to buy it.
Same here.
Dirt 5 surely is a bold and weird change.However, I think dirt 5 should've stick to dirt 3/4 format.
i just played gravel for the first time and its soooo realistic and fun and hard in the same time ! what a game
i prefer sand
I dont think either one is better than the other but i would like to see a gravel upgradw got that game for the cheap
I first even heard about this "Gravel" game from DDG
Spot on review!
Gravel felt so much more fun with and handling playong Dirt like saving achievement and 3 star attempts felt like a chore and who could forget vehicle variety
Not one of you finished watching 100% and answered his question: which one is better? Feels/appears like you'd like. I think if physics & professional track design aren't in question, the most important to me are ¹mud/environment effect, ²custom vinyl+paint (+tires/accessory).
Baja rack lights in night rain on (that level) misty/sandy/muddy hits that dopamine itch, along w/ gives in the unpaved road. Motorstorm1 sold consoles cuz of this tracked on effect. Trampled dirt, and a effective sense of size difference. Both vehicles grab dirt well, stubborn turning due to weight+wheelbase of SUV, but beastliness of monster truck.
The way Motorstorm1 mud designed... fkn perfect. Visually stunning.
I have to agree Dirt (originally had the rally culture behind it but) 5's "meh."
So upon investigating but not yet played Gravel, it seems the better offroad game. Depends if you're after arcade-y or sim.
Play the Dirt series if you need sim feel cuz you bought steering wheel controller. Play the Gravel game if you ditched PS4 but miss Motorstorm. (I wish comment item ¹ & ² bases were implemented though, cuz I sat for hours/days/wks customizing vinyl wraps of my vehicle collection.)
I just got this game and played through episode 2, the feel of the game is better but the physics are kind of broken sometimes, ive wiped out for no apparent reason on occasion, and the ai is not very well developed.
It was worth what i paid for tho.
I never hear people talk about Milestone games really. I mean even the modes and variety of tracks/modes (very important to me) and rally car types even besides having limited cars for focus on the types they are too. Having playdd enough of WRC 2&4 of the reboot bamingy2010s or so yeah 2's campaign was so good don't like 4's much. But they knew how to make some good physics and design for thr stages then.
The speed limit in Gravel is awkward sometimes but it wasn't hard to get around that. I never played the DLC but for the main tracks. Yeah blending in things with too similar of track layouts paths or colour/lighting is a problem.
Won't deny the other aspects of Dirt 5 yeah is different I mean split screen is great. But Milestone is a AA Studio or single A they doyhave the budget or people but their attempts have been welcomed for sure in what they can do. Espywhen the rest have their issues or even looking for another game on the market in such a space they aloffer them in certain spaces.
Oh boy Dirt 5 menus look like some street funky colours who are they appealing to with a rally game it looks sad. Never knew that prior wow. So glad to see someone cover it. I don't know anything about Dirt 5. I heard about it for console launch but I haven't touched Dirt 2 since the PSP version I used to wn and that's it I just never thought about them much. I may if I see copies but otherwise the more arcade, sim, dirt, bike, whatever I come across now the more interested I am. Sucks for studios but I just didn't.
Maybe the odd Let's Player you see cover Alfa Romeo Racing Italiano or Evolution GT but that's about it. Even GT Advance by MTO I came across from a let's player and glad I did. But then again for handhelds people never look to them as much. For our of the normal space people ignore games and I swear the comments in streams are so boring of oh you playing this other thing when Need For Speed, Forza or Gran Turismo as if why bother when to me as please I want to see other racing games covered by let's players the other racing games as even one offs have their mechanics, charm and fair attempts. So to me it's customers get too IP comfortable then it being just the game execution too. But I'm not IP or brand loyal either so I'm willing to look at what I dislike/like about those games and what I like about others in comparison not because of being on the market but better execution, what they offer different that others don't because they maybe downscaled their rally or even space for those types of games even.
It's always the big games and anything even AA racing or outside the norm gets unheard of.
So to me Gravel was a surprise I loved it. The game show direction, a MotorStorm like experience I played before even MotorStorm, Fuel and others. Their older stuff also for RPG mechanics, the V8 Supercars duology. Ride. They make impressive games. The quality isn't perfect but is it good enough yes I still get the fun out of it the execution is still strong to me.
The Italian studio makes amazing games in areas the others don't just like the MX Vs ATV and other games having their own space in time and still today by whoever makes sense still.
Dirt has had such a bizarre life.
Need to try gravel, it’s 2.99 on steam. Need to grab a new controller tho
What about career mode? And how much of it is online only?
I agree 100%
have you considered creating discord server for your community?
I've said before that Gravel is basically DiRT 5 but actually good.
I have played more of DiRT 5, as i forced myself to play through it when there was a free weekend on steam.
I can safely say though, the game didn't feel fun at any point.
Frustrating physics, for example the complete lack of lift off oversteer, terrible track design and uninspired car selection and liveries completely kill the game.
On the other hand, in Gravel, the physics are decent, very much what you'd expect from Milestone and the game feels fun to play.
Great cars to drive, even though there's not exactly many of them, most of the liveries are nice to look at and the amazing track design in the game. Oh boy, i could praise the tracks all day.
On question does gravel have split screen
There is no split screen.
Gravel definitely tastes way better than dirt
Gravel = AsphaltXtreme on a Console ❤️🔥
Just wish gravel had 2 player couch co-op.
Asphalt Xtreme 👍
Gravel was fun for a couple hours but then it just felt like I was doing the same shit over and over, and the crappy engine sounds and graphics is a downer. I at least had a bit of fun for the three quid I spent on it so I can't complain too much I guess. Haven't tried Dirt 5 yet.
Sadly, I agree.
everything is downhill after dirt 2. dirt 2 got the vibe right, got the colour palette right and the car designs are just beautiful. not to mention the amazing tracks and everything
codemasters tried make Dirt more different with Dirt Rally
but choice wrong way for this
they must make something like Motorstorm, arcadish but not boring
Me And my sister did played a lot of Dirt 5 & it's dlcs campaigns due to its split screen mode. If Gravel had splits screen,I would had finished by now but did purchased in 2018 (Steam) that's where I got to know about Milestone company
OMG! I remember this game. I played it like once but it was on PS4 as a Demo. I didn't have any PS4 games at the time so I was looking for something to play and Gravel came up. I was pretty surprised at how good this game was.
Also have you considered making a video on Test Drive Eve of Destruction? that game is so good and underrated, almost no one talks about it.
Yeah, we definitely need TD: Eve of Destruction video.
But we really know, that the real winner here is Dirt 2.
I'm pretty sure Gravel is a fun game. I bought it about four years ago but still haven't played it. So many games, so little time.
The creators of rally and racing games this days they concentrate on graphics and les on cars phisics and traction control witch i think îs more important
Well, I have both games and find both of them are fun to do racing. Both are arcade type games and they just entertain me for a change of paste in racing games.
You are too worried about cosmetics, who cares???
Cosmetic artwork, types of vehicles, etc, don't bother me at all, it is how they do the racing and is it fun - I think so.. Both games do a few laps on any track and then I go onto the next event or track. Who cares about points or awards, etc, I just pick a track, vehicle and then do the 3 lap race. Again, they are just games which I find entertaining.
You ever play TOCA racing many years ago, that is what these games feel like where you can bump off of each other and keep going. These are not SIM racing games.
Final words, Both Gravel and Dirt 5 are fun little arcade games and both have their own style of play. I play both game with my wheel controller which works fine. I also like the GRID and SHIFT games which are arcade driving games.
Bye!!
Presentation was one part of my complaints, and I do love arcade racers.
I just bought the whole pack with the season pass for three bucks!
I like dirt 5, for gravel I cannot tell yet because I just bought it and did not turn it on yet.
Definitely try out Gravel when you can!
Perfect in two games 🏃💨💨💥 i love these games 🚙💨💨💥💥
I always say "New game doesn't mean better"
Sadly, that is a big trend in gaming nowadays...
Gravel was my choice but, The ability to make and share tracks on Dirt is the tastiest ,most aggravating of all.
does it have multyplayer
Gravel has online multiplayer
Gravel isn’t great but I agree it’s better than dirt 5
Btw Gravel has a free demo and is currently on sale for $2 or $4 for special edition with all dlc
im loving dirt 5 right now im ngl
Gravel is very good.
Gravel is the DiRT 4 we never got
I loved gravel! But I was really put away by the awful sound mix. I couldn't even hear the engine, no matter the settings!
Gravel? Oh well, i guess the next game name will be sand
Speed
why I never heard of this before?
Yeah, but does Gravel have a benchmark? 😁
They shouldn't named it DiRT 5, because it looked like DiRT Showdown
Dirt 5 looks like it's trying to be motorstorm.
currently $2 on psn 😊
Gravel is better than dirt 5 but not as good as dirt 4. Overall top racing game.
the issue : GRAVEL has no slide physics, compared to Dirt 5, it's boring handling
Personally for me, I prefer dirt 5 than gravel
But that's just my opinion really
Pokemon Gravel and Dirt
Remaster dirt 2 & 3!
The artstyle of 5 screams tryhard flare. A break from clean and crisp menus is nice but it simply went too hard in the paint, pun intended.