Modern tifos are planned on the computer. The ultras have exact plans of the stadium and can design the tifo for every single seat. That's why you never see a single misplaced cardboard or flag in these tifos. The outlines of the huge banners are often printed out on paper with industrial printers, placed on top of canvases and then painted through. Then they are colored and transported to the stadium, where most ultra groups have containers or special rooms to store the tifo. The clubs let the ultras in one or two days before the game so they place all the pieces on the stands. One important note about the tifos is that, most of the time, 100% of the costs are covered by the ultras or donations from other fans. Many ultra groups refuse to take money from the club because it could open pandoras box and they become paid actors for the club.
No club league in europe plays the national anthem before games. Many players are not from that country so it would be stupid to make them learn/sing it. Most leagues just play the league anthem, which is often just a song with no words while the lineups are being presented. Anthems are only played in international football (national teams)
@@AtnaRecords1 I can add that in general European fans hate and adverse any attempt of pre-game entertainment such as songs played loud from stadium speakers . We definitly want to keep the "natural" old school stadium environment, with lights, colours, banners chants and noises only coming from fanbase and ultras, without interference from commercial or clubs' entertainment purposes. Clubs just care to put eleven players on the pitch, the stadium and the environment only belongs to us: the people 😅
In Britain apart from international games the national anthem is for cup finals when a member of the monarchy is present. Which makes them special one of occasions. But it was done recently for the coronation. With mixed results. In Liverpool in particular.
In England, there is a great hatred for a team called “MK Dons”, who used to be called “Wimbledon” from a completely different place to where they are now. Where a owner, took the club, renamed it, moved it to a different place and stole the people’s teams history. This forced the people of Wimbledon to form a new club ( A.F.C. Wimbledon) and start from the very bottom of the English pyramid (they are now in the same league next season). So clubs moving places is shone and extremely rare.
@Θεόδωρος I am not certain. It seems to be a highly controversial thing, according to the clubs websites, MK Dons don’t claim previous honours of Wimbledon FC, whereas Wimbledon AFC do claim the honours. From what I’ve seen the general consensus depends on if you see Wimbledon FC and Wimbledon AFC as 2 separate clubs or as 1 clubs but almost reborn/renamed.
Tifos are generally painted on painter's tarpaulins. Assemble them, tape them from the back. Some may take 4-5 weekends to complete. They are displayed at the beginning of the match (usually when the home team enters the pitch).
For example, the two cities of Brescia and Bergamo in Northern Italy have been at war for 900 years. When Italy united football was becoming more and more important and consequently that hatred moved from the battlefields to the stadiums. The fans literally see themselves as a different people, as a different tribe, the symbol of Brescia comes directly from the city’s resistance to the Austria-Hungarian Empire in the nineteenth century, when a kid is born in Bergamo he’ll receive an Atalanta shirt (Bergamo’s Club). The Football Clubs are the direct consequence of historical, cultural, political and religious divisions
Honored and pleased to have my comment quoted in your show. I say this, because - as you noticed - we in your comment sections really love the sport (for all the reasons mentioned), and also - love to see someone else falling in love with this beautiful sport. In other words, we love to share our love for it. Football is truly an international language, where we all "understand" each other (as we speak the same language) - at least, in terms of our love for it. And I don't know about others, but I think that it is a joy to share with others in something that (at its best) is good, beautiful, and passion-filled. TL;DR It's not by chance that you, Luke, have experienced how supportive and welcoming the football-lovers who showed up in your comments are. Because they are eager to help you on your way into this world. Into the beautiful (global) game.
@@lukessportsacademy The Ultras are in the stadium hours before the game starts and distribute the individual pieces (mostly plastic) to hold up in the right place so that it makes a picture when everyone holds it up. A choreo can cost more than 100k euros, which is all financed by donations from fans and Ultras. Look at Bayern - Real 2014 choreo Allianz Arena. It is over the entire stadium. At Barca Ultras are not seen with pleasure and the choreos/tifos are made by sponsors and are therefore not particularly creative and affectionate. As well as everywhere else, (the fan culture in England has unfortunately become really bad but that's a very long story of its own) the tifos/choreos are handmade and financed by the fans.
Boca Juniors, from Buenos Aires in Argentina, their big rival, I suppose you can call it a Derby, is a team called River Plate, a team also in Buenos Aires, and when they played I'm pretty sure it's called El Superclasico, and those matches are insane. I watched it for the first time this season in the Argentina league, and it ended 1-0 River Plate, and there were at least 5 or 6 red cards handed out within the last few seconds of the game. And the crowd atmosphere is unbelievable.
Matt Damon, witch is married to an Argentinian, said in one interview that the craziest thing he ever witnessed in his life was a Superclassico in Buenos Aires. Boca Juniors Stadium, aka La Bombonnera, is one of the most insane soccer pitches ever made.
80 thousand people enter the river stadium, and every match it is full, until very recently genius world cup champions players such as Enzo Fernandez and Julian Alvarez were playing there, I went to the stadium many times and saw them play, the atmosphere is crazy
I love what you’re doing with your channel and appreciate your genuine efforts to really understand the game. It can’t be easy as you don’t have the media and cultural saturation we have in Europe but you’re doing a brilliant job. Are you starting to follow a specific team? That’s when the sport goes from being not just interesting to something much more personal. Even if the team you choose isn’t that great (in fact especially if they’re not that great) you’ll get an even deeper insight into the more emotional side of the game.
Clubs have their own anthems, thus before every home game, the anthem of the home team is played. Spanish and Italian teams have very beautiful anthems; Real Madrid and Barça's anthem is up there, you should react to it. Most of the European clubs also have other sports for instance Barça has a basketball team, handbol, field hockey, ice hockey, volleyball, rollerblade hockey, athletics, ice skating, rugby, futsal, esports and so much. Their handbol team just qualified for champions league quarter finals. The ultras support all these teams and go to games.
Al Ahly in Egypt once had a Tifo in the African Champions League that spelled (Football for the fans) thats changed language every few seconds, it was with pieces of paper that have a different colour on each side and it is numbered so you know which part needs to be held up at each sign from the "Capo" i.e the man who signals
The last time the Milan Derby took place in a UCL semi final was in mid to late 2000s, the 2nd leg had to be abandoned because of fan violence and fans throwing flares on the pitch. Tho the players got a few cold photos out of it lmao
Boca Juniors are from Argentina, but they do have roots in Italian immigration. If you cover South America in the future, you could cover the rivalry between them and River Plate. COPA90 made a really good documentary on youtube about it.
Oh yeah I'm Italian and at my village there were some elderly people who supported Boca, because they had come back from their youngster emigration to Argentina in the 40's...
Fun fact about Boca Juniors. When deciding their colors, they decided to take the colors of the first ship that arrived at the port that day, and i happened to be a Swedish ship.
And maybe one more thing, a lot of those teams you mentioned also have "branch team" in other sport (especially teams from mainland continental Europe). For example (If you're into NBA), The Gasol Brothers used to play for FC Barcelona Bàsquet and Luka Dončic used to play for Real Madrid Baloncesto.
Hi Luke and Corey! With regards to the World Wars… there were no summer Olympics in 1916 due to World War I. It was awarded to Berlin, Germany but didn’t take place. So there was an 8 year gap from the 1912 Olympics in Stockholm, Sweden to the 1920 Olympics in Antwerp, Belgium. Then when World War II broke out in September 1939, the 1940 Summer Olympics that awarded to Tokyo, Japan and the 1944 Olympics awarded to London, Great Britain were both cancelled. Once the war was over in 1945, the first Summer Olympics were then held in 1948 hosted by London, Great Britain. With respects to domestic football during war times, leagues were stopped and suspended until the end of war and then resumed again after those wars when it was deemed appropriate to carry on. That’s my understanding of it but best thing to do is to have a look online. I’m really loving your channel man and Corey is a welcome addition. Take care
A point about you guys wanting to learn the history of the sport and also a point about how deeply footy runs through our culture.. I'm from Lancashire, within 20 miles or so from me is man utd and city, Liverpool and Everton as well as dozens of other notable teams.. but in high school while studying history, one of the units that I studied was the history of football! We went to the history museum at Preston's ground and a trip to Blackburn rovers ground among others! Absolutely loved it haha.. interesting to show how relevant it is though for it to be part of the school curriculum in my school
"Tifo" is Italian meaning literally "fanatic enthusiasm" and the people who have that "fanatic enthusiam" for Football" are called "Tifosi"/Tifoso when it is just 1 person respectively and the term "Tifos" is just the abbreviation for the term "Tifosi" (basically the same as like in English saying "isn´t" instead of "is not") The term "Tifosi/Tifos" - in Italy - basically just describes "the avarage Italian Football Fans" because Italians are extremely passionate even literally "hot-blooded" by nature in general about all kinds of stuff when they choose to like something as like as for instance when it comes down to "love affairs/hate affairs" or even their "traditional cuisine" (so do not change a classical Italian recipe for a classical traditional Italian meal and then dare to call it "original Italian" or give that different made meal "the original Italian name" like for instance "Bolognese, Carbonara or what ever" when it actually was made slightly differently because that will cause huge immense trouble with any native Italian....just mentioned as a sidenote in behalf of what you call in the US "Italian food" because all those "US-Italian foods" are differently made/have different recipes than "original Italian food" like for instance your "Meatballs with Spaghetti and Tomatosauce" is not "original Italian" at all and is not to get in Italy anywhere..in Italy you will get meatballs but those taste different and you will get Spaghetti in Tomatosauce but never ever both combined) ....and the "Ultras" are basically "the next level Tifosi" in behalf of being "hot-blooded" for Football/their Football club in particular"..So all Ultras are Tifosi/Tifos but not all Tifosi/Tifos are Ultras.
I am from Nigeria (Africa) and I did the opposite journey from the one you're on about two decades ago Once we started to get cable, I learned almost all US sports and got really interested in American football and NBA. I can watch Baseball. It's only Ice Hockey I struggle with because it seems like chaotic extremely fast football. I like that you're learning soccer and I for one don't like the either/or nature of many fans who don't seem to understand you can like multiple sports
there is a ww1 story that german and allied solders stopped fighting on christmas day 1 side sang christmas carrolls the other joined in they met in no mans land while under a ceassfire sang, ate, drank and played a game of football
The one that looks like shirts for Barcelona, they're probably all squares of plastic, placed on each seat pre-game, then the fans don't have to organise anything, they just have to hold the plastic up at the right time
You have to watch the TIFO from FC Basel vs Fiorentina it was 3 Days ago and their FIBO was insane. They played each other in the Europe Conference League. It was a huge basilisc. FYI the first international cup is Champions League, then Europe League, then Europa Conference League.!!! I was in the Stadium
In club football games they play the club's anthem before the game, not the national anthem unless it's a Cup final (like Copa del Rey in Spain or FA Cup in England). When national teams play, tte anthem of each country is played, but not in club football. In a Champions League game they play the Champions League anthem too, but not any national anthem. Clubs are so historically rooted in the community that they have actual anthems. It happens with otter sports in Europe too. You have to understand that all these clubs used to be actual sports clubs for the community. If you go back 80 years or 100 years that's what they were. Imagine your YMCA, your Boys & Girls club, an old gymnasium like the ones we see in movies, your college sports teams... it was all of that and more in just one organization. As a matter of fact, many football clubs have sections for other sports. FC Barcelona foi example, they also have a futsal team, a basketball team, a handball team, a field hockey team and I think even an American Football team, and they're all under the umbrella of FC Barcelona. Manu more clubs in Europe do it or have done that in the past. That's why in Spain we see so many "Racing Club", "Athletic Club", "Sporting Club", "Club Deportivo" (Sports Club) and so on, because originally they were the places to play organized sports in general. And this happens in Latin America as well, it's not only Europe. It's very different from US American sports these days.
Here in Brazil we have a lot of people with italian roots, i believe it is second most europian origin behind of portugal, so there were those two times called Palestra Itatlia that we call today Cruzeiro from Minas Gerais state and Palmeiras from São Paulo, they had to change their names when Brazil entered the war on tge allied side and that history is not just interesting by itself but because it mirrors the prosecution especially germanic minorities faced during that, even they though they had come in the 1800's the government prohibited they speaking their native language and kids were forced to be educated in portuguese
Womens football took off in a big way during WW2 with 80,000 people showing up for an fa cup final, but after the men came back from the war womens fa cup was banned
In 1911 Mohunbagan won ifa shield became 1st Indian club ro win the competition. The myth says that the players and locals motivated each other by saying that they could kick some Brits colonials on field without being jailed.
One interesting note on ultras, they can often hold real power in some societies. I have a friend and former teacher who was involved with the Al-Ahly ultras in Egypt. During the 2011 Egyptian Revolution, he says the Al-Ahly and Zamalek (their archrival) ultras were important organizers in Tahrir Square and the Revolution at large. Because the ultra groups are already well-organized and primarily composed of young men, they were able to serve as de facto protectors for more vulnerable protesters. I can’t do my friend’s stories justice, but tldr the ultras of Egypt’s two biggest clubs played a role in the revolution, and this has happened in other countries as well.
A big part of why college football is so big because Americans are so prideful about where they got educated for three or four years probably because the insane costs to go there. The topic of what university people went to is rarely mentioned in society, and never at sports, your die hard ultras and fans are working class people, who probably aren't higher educated. In terms of the locals, you obviously can't move a college and there are multiple equal conferences in the FBS and FCS so there are over 250 teams. Which gives the illusion of a community spirit, but a real community would be tied to the town, not a separate corporate establishment whose soul purpose is to reap money from its students. They are devoted in terms of dressing up and doing stupid shit, college fans. I think thats down to the fact that most people who would go to colleges have only a weak interest in sports, and are only going to fit or to be a part of something, there is no deep moral or political affiliation with the team. Considering how many women are in attendance at college sports, you don't have to be a genius to know that women do not like sports any where near as much as men, thats just a fact, but their higher than average attendance at college games is evidence that people who are not fully committed to the team are willing to sit in the crowd. Sports are not about fun, its fun to win, fun to dominate, but there is a serious element, that college sports (the so called best supported sports in the US) miss out on. To me personally if I had to go to a college and go to sports games with all the other suckers at the college I wouldn't go, I would want to be among like minded individuals not just random students. Also if you associate college with stress and exams, surely you would associate the team with those same emotions. All people said, I do root for Notre Dame, as it is one of the most Irish Catholic teams in America since I support Celtic FC. I just wish rather than that team being part of a private institution that only lets in the most intelligent, it was a separate team, that preaches the same messages as Celtic. Instead of someone running out dressed as a Leprechaun, there should be songs about the IRA and British Oppression. But Americans don't really give a shit about stuff across the pond so I guess its pointless.
My husband used to live in fulham (a borough) in london opposite whwre Fulham play, and the fulham football club was originally set up as the church football club at the church he was church warden of.
In English football, the only times the National Anthem is played are the Cup Finals. Normal games, it's the club's anthems that are played before games. E.g. Leeds - marching on together. Liverpool - You'll never walk alone. Newcastle - local hero / Blaydon Races. Sunderland - Can't help falling in love ETC.
More great content! Loving the journey. I really need to know more about Hand Egg, so bring on the explainer vids! Interesting debate on the national anthem... Yeah, we don't tend to sing our anthem at games (only the World Cup) where it is a respectful representation (with occasional booing🤣) of each country's culture and identity. The idea of singing 'God Save the King' at matches probably will never fly over here but hey, there are currently a weird crop of UK politicians emerging from the shadows that would definitely cream themselves over an enforced sing-along! Personally, I think there's something about the mandatory singing of your own hype-theme to an indigenous audience that seems like an intense lack of self-confidence. The USA definitely doesn't lack self-confidence - which is what makes it all a bit scary😜 .
At the start of WW1 the British, as part of recruitment drives, promised that groups of men who volunteered together could serve together with their friends and others from their villages in so called "pals battalions". The result was that all the men of whole families and even villages and neighborhoods could be wiped out in even a single attack. The football club you mentioned wouldn't have been the only one this happened to.
the video actually starts with the reaction to UEFA's reaction to what they did the year before, when they remembered a world war massacre, something the UEFA wasn't happy with, so they fined the club, and so, the "guess who's back..." also is directed at the UEFA like they were saying, you're not getting rid of us.
Also, players can move freely to other teams but there are certain taboos like joining the rival team. So usually they try to go to a different league. Oh and very wealthy teams may buy players just to prevent their rivals from having them. They then loan those players out to teams in other leagues to avoid having to play against their own loaned out player.
Professional sports in Europe are more like college / high school sports in the US in terms of the connection to the community - ie they’re not franchises and they cover much smaller geographical areas than say NFL teams do. For example the Seattle Seahawks fan base is predominantly from the whole of the massive Pacific Northwest, all the way across to Montana. But if Seattle were an English city they may very well have two teams, and historically your location within the city, your occupation and social background etc might impact which team you support, and then that support is handed down through over 100 years of your family… it builds strong ties. Coincidentally there’s also no connection between school sports and professional sports (except that you might get scouted playing for your school team - from elementary level up. If you’re playing in college (university) here in the U.K. though it’s just for fun for most sports, few people are going to have a professional career in sports from there as it’s too late - unless they are already also playing that sport at a higher level outside of the University team. But for soccer you’ll already be playing professionally at college age usually.
to be honest, it's maybe because it's new to an european, but the draft system kinda interest me a little, i still think it wouldn't do good over here, but as just a "fan", i think it would be fun to let your imagination try to "teambuild", imagine what will happen if that player were to join that team and see the games as experiment Also i don't think there's as much players who play for the team they love as you can imagine, it depends on how good you are, your position, how you play the game, what the club needs at what moment, how you got better/evolved, where you're from, ... most young really start in the local fourth division club's youth team, and if they're good enough they may go to a bigger city nearby, and then it's up to the training center and how it will let you progress 34:30 there's an interesting video on youtube called "Ted Talk - Why Americans will never accept Soccer" , it's about a school presentation (idk how exactly it's called) , it's a short video and the point of view was interestint to me because i didn't knew much about how it worked in America
In Germany the second biggest city Hamburg is also very split footballclub wise. There is the Hamburger Sportverein (HSV) and its rival FC St. Pauli. The derbys are often very intense and they kinda also represent different parts of society and political spectrum.
The other thing with football, all you really need is something to use as ball.... Then can be jumper's for goal posts, or using walls, tree's, bus stops... So accessable from any age up until atleast until getting into under age teams who ask for nominal fees
If you want to know a bit about liverpool, celtic and the Irish supporters and why a lot a deep rivaly exists with them and other teams like rangers, basically Irish catholics in northern ireland are huge supportors of celtic in scotland because we both share a deep connection of suffering under english oppression as well as a gaelic scotland once being a part of ireland and many events of immigration back and forth have taken place. In recent years though due to irish opression in the north and the rising irish civil rights movement, a rivalry formed between the unionts who supported rangers in scotland and the irish catholics who supported celtic in scotland, a similar support with irish catholics exists with liverpool, this is why both liverpool and celtic sing 'The fields of Athenry' which is an irish staple which you should definitely check out , a song ive heard that song since the day i was born haha, its quinticentially irish and its a song about the famine when we faced what was essentially ethnic cleansing as part of english rule, the population today still hasnt recovered with 2 million dead and 3 million immigrated or sent abroad, young men were sent to england, austrialia etc on prision ships and as indetured servants, you can see this clearly in the lyrics of the song, for example ''For you stole Trevelyan's corn , So the young might see the morn, Now a prison ship lies waiting in the bay''. Charles Travellyan famously said that the famine was gods way of punishing the irish. Later then, still suffering from the events of the past and with the north in turmoil, during the troubles a lot of irish catholics moved to liverpool to escape the violence, i have a number of family uncles, aunts, cousins in both liverpool and glasgow. When i was young in northern ireland i had friends that were stabbed because they were in the wrong area wearing a celtic shirt, or personally ive been chased, had bricks thrown at, etc for wearing a celtic shirt, you werent allowed to wear team shirts in school (despite segregated schools) or on busses and sometimes not even in the city centre it was that inflamatory. Similarly those wearing rangers shirts would have faced a lot of similar violence going into catholic areas. Look into the irish civil rights movement, the troubles and the good friday agreement if you want to find out more, rights for irish citizens to be irish wasnt just what they were fighting for, many i knew were huge supporters of lgbt rights and today we massively support palestine too which furthers the meaning of the song in todays eyes imo with liverpool being a great city for lgbt pride too. We also align with a lot of other countries too whos people faced similar issues, in spain, turkey etc. Today fortuntely the animosity has mostly died down and many today barely remember or never knew the violence of our recent past and we seem to be making great strides for equality and peace in Northern Ireland. Theres definitely a sense of immense pride when youre standing at a street by an irish pub in turkey and the entire street is belting fields of athenry for whatever game is on. The early 2000s when ireland made it decently far in the world cup was some of the craziest shit ive seen, we were on holiday in grand canaria in spain and the entire beachfront was going absolutely mental, kinda too far to be honest haha, thats the sense of energy that we can install and i think its our hardships that made us this passionate. Link to the fields of athenry a classic version czcams.com/video/_NlrsmEvv1Q/video.html during rugby czcams.com/video/4N_t9_4hatc/video.html liverpool v celtic czcams.com/video/N76Z5Vz-bOY/video.html
Pele was instrumental in stopping a war in Africa continent. So that a football game can be played. This sport is a religious ( ppl of all different walks of life) . Yes ! The sport is growing in the states. There are many factors that hurt the growth: Kids have to pay to play the sport ( in the US ) whereas in Europe kids get paid to play. . It’s viewed as a sport for rich white kids . Which doesn’t give low income kids a chance to play the sport or discouraging them from the sport .
Many European leagues were suspended during the first and second world wars. In England, at least, it was banned to pay players during the war - but there were some matches that took place to raise money for charity. And womens football was really popular during that time.
WW2 - football in England went on. The normal league and the FA Cup was suspended but there was a ‘wartime league’ split into Northern and Southern sections and a wartime cup. Paying players wasn’t banned. They were paid for matches they played, however they either served in the military or in reserved essential occupations and played when available. They had a guest system which allowed players to play for other clubs - players often turned out for teams near their military bases.
That Borussia Dortmund part of the stadium you showed on the video and on the thumb is called “the yellow wall”. They remove the seats and everyone is standing the whole time, so they can put more people in the stadium. Borussia has the highest occupancy amongst all European clubs. Their season tickets are sold out for decades.
Regarding the loyalty of players to their childhood team... I'm a Benfica fan (portuguese team that you should go find out by the way, has one of the best youth academies in the world and we had one of the goats of the world Eusebio and have 2 ECL titles and 4 finals) and we had players that where transfered to the biggest clubs in Europe because we are a small team compared to the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool... financial wise and we need the money to survive and stay competitive. A lot of those players do comeback to Benfica to finish their career just because they love the club, they even drop their salary to less than half to do so. We had Rui Costa (AC Milan and portuguese legend), Di Maria, Nuno Gomes returning to the club after going away to play abroad. Bernardo Silva, Ruben Dias (Man city) and João Cancelo (Barcelona) hopefully are next in line to return ;)
Another huge superpower of the game is Uruguay. The were hosts to the original world cup because they had won the gold medal at the previous Olympic games. They were one country with many immigrants that introduced the country to the beautiful game early in its growth. They are the smallest nation (in population) to have won a world cup, having won 2. They won one either side of WWII. They would likely have won 3 or 4 if they had participated in the second world cup. They didn't because many didn't travel to South America for their hosting of the cup. It felt like a slight on their significance to the game when many countries dismissed the original world cup as something trivial. They (Europeans) didn't believe it would overtake the Olympics in terms of significance. So the fact they didn't even attempt to defend the original championship is one that they have honor and pride as they should. They were easily the best in the world for a few decades and it's sad their significance isn't stated enough. The talent to have come out of Uruguay is far beyond nations of much larger populations. They have produced many legendary players that played the game with a tenacity unheard of in many places. They always would fight for the ball and to keep play ongoing, instead of being feeble "divers" like many players are taught to be in other nations.
Wydad Casablanca & Raja Casablanca their Ultras are by faar the best ultras in the world !! Btw I like the name of the podcast, Derby derbs sounds hella cool
As a dortmund fan you should definitly watch a game live. I genuenly beleive we have one of the best fanbases and a stadium with a capacity of 80,000. If you are in germany it is a must
About homegrown player who get to thr first team. There is the step above it, altough more and more rare these days. Some player play they ENTIRE CAREER in one club. You talk about Milan, Paolo Maldini did it and he's even in the board of director now. Some club had multiple generation from framillys playing. Still the Maldinis at Milan (father, son Paolo and grand son), Busquets at barcelona, ect.
In one of your videos you talk about the "hand of god" goal by Maradona. The reason why that world cup was so important for Argentina, and also so important that they won against England, was that both countries had a terrible war about the occupation of some islands in the argentinean sea (ilhas Malvinas or the Falklands) just 4 years earlier, and Argentina lost the war. The reasons for England entering the war were tied to their colonialist past in Latin America. People in Argentina, and also in many third world countries, felt that Argentina winning was a way to "make justice", at least in a simbolic way.
"I grew two hours away from that team so i will support it" In europe/middle east, if you live half an hour drive from a team, that team is your rival and you probably even hate it more than the ones 10 hours drive away.
If you end up doing some videos about America's love for the NFL Football, you need to highlight some of the crazy moments in NFL History like -The Immaculate Reception -The Hail Mary -The Holy Roller -The Sea of Hands -The Fog Bowl -The Patriots - Raiders Tuck Rule Game. -The Buffalo Bills comeback against the Houston Oilers -Mike Brown's Game Winning Pick Sixes in Overtime in Back to Back Weeks. (That one is a personal preference)
The whole thing with the cards that make the patern is aranged by the stadium. They just leave the cards on each individual seat and people who seat there pick them up and raise them
You not only have multiple teams per city, you can have multiple clubs in the same neighborhood. Just in Barrio Obrero, a neighborhood in Asuncion you have Cerro Porteño, Nacional, Sol de América and Atlántida all next to each other. Though, Sol de América moved its stadium to another city the club office remained in the same place, and Atlántida is not in the professional league
The draft system you have in the US is the most non-American thing I can think of. It’s actually anti capitalist. Capitalism is not about allocation, it’s about free market and freedom of choice. I’m still surprised about this whenever I hear about American professional sports.
During WWII there was no World Cup. But football (or as you call it soccer) was definitly played. It was even at that difficult time the most popular game. I'm from The Netherlands and football was very, very important. People had a moment to forget the misery of occupation. After WWII we the Dutch hated Germans. Can you blame us? But football also brings people together. After we beat the Germans in 1988 in the semi-finals, the hatred just went away. We had our revenge and from that moment on we became best friends with the Germans.
I don't know why people flame you in the comments for not knowing things. You're obviously learning. I'm from the UK and I only care about Arsenal. I couldn't even tell you the starting 11 for Real Madrid, because they have nothing to do with my team. If knowledge of them comes my way, so be it, but don't feel like you have to cram everything in your head because you'll start seeing this as a job and develop hate for it. Just relax, take your time and you will learn. People in the comments will help you, and you can do your own research on your own time, being in the space of football will ultimately bring some knowledge to you about the sport and different players, managers, stadiums, etc. Learn this VERY BROAD sport at your own pace man, it's not going anywhere, the historic players will stay historic and new players with start making waves.
Bro I can't imagine being a player on the opposing team walking out of the tunnel to this madness 🤯🤯🤯 I know a few guys be shitting their pants FOR SURE !!!! this can make or break the whole game!! like DAAAAMN !!!
Football players around do not just play for their home club .they are on the whole professional and some play for many clubs at home or for clubs in other countries That is why you get some all-powerful teams like Man City, Real Madrid, and all the other big clubs in Europe and South America
The olympics weren’t held during WW2. The one you’re thinking of, in Berlin, was in 1936. In the occupied countries, the leagues were suspended and restarted after the war. Scotland wasn’t occupied by the Germans.
Fun video! Two points: 1) During WW1 in England, initially football continued, but once it became clear that the war wouldn’t “be over by Christmas”, men’s football was suspended as lots of the players were called to fight. Women’s football then stepped into the breach (as women also were stepping into factories) and became incredibly popular (100k+ crowds) as ppl needed something fun to watch. Once the war ended, the FA banned women from playing football to appease the returning men, as they were worried people would prefer the women’s teams. This ban was in place until 1970! And is honestly shameful/the reason why women’s football lags behind men’s. 2) Although ultras groups are largely a positive - mostly there to support their team - they also have some negative connotations especially in Italy. Italian ultras have made racist comments about players, told players to get over racism/put up with it and left stickers of Anne Frank at away stadiums. Not saying they’re all bad, but just be wary of uncritical praise!
Newcastle are 1 point away from returning to the Champions League after 20 years away. They just need to not lose to Leicester on Monday night to secure their place for next season. The celebrations in the stadium and in the city after the game will be epic!
23:29 that's kinda ironic by the way. Where a lot of life aspects in US are capitalism yet (CMIIW) only US sports looks like adapting socialism concept for their league ecosystem and their players recruitment.
The midsize team fans are often way more fanatic. The real big ones have like many tourists that are just there for that game, and doesn't really care for the team.
Cool to see you doing a deep dive into the culture of this magnificent sport. I think a big reason why American sports aren't really so big overseas is because it feels so incredibly soulless
16:27 that is the segment you should aim actually. Exploring trivial segment together. As the new NFL fan, I don't attracted to the breakdown of the tactics ( because I still don't comprehend 500 pages thick playbook) or Skipp or Stephen A explaining about the stats ( because I still don't know the meaning for some of the numbers). What I prefer for my NFL knowledge is something like What is the origin of Bills Mafia? What makes them behave like that? The origin of Legion of Boom What is the reaction from the Cowboys fans when Terrel Owens stands on the blue star? I think people would likely to prefer that kind of topics because for the technical aspects there are a lot of people offer that kind of content. So let's had some explorations, you tell us about the trivial information for NFL, and we are gonna tell you some of the interesting information about this football
I too grew up in a cult. JW's. I wasn't allowed to play sports because it was competitive. In my teens, I played for teams for about 6 years without my family even knowing about it, as they wouldn't have approved and I probably might have been kicked out sooner than I was (17). Eventually my knee problems kicked in and at 20 I was told I could be in a wheelchair by 30 if I carried on playing (I was a defender, and the kind that never pulled out of a challenge as I was willing to hurt myself - but not the other player. I was brave, not aggressive and not dirty, though I could be cynical when needed). Not the quickest, and I wouldn't be doing tricks and flicks to go round people, but I could stop them doing it to me. I knew where to be, when to be there and what to do once I was there. I knew I was never good enough to play professionally, but didn't actually appreciate how good I was at the time, especially in my reading of the game, and have been told I was more than capable of playing League of Wales (semi-pro), if not for my knees.
Tifos have been taken up by by MLS football club supporters and they do a very good job of their Tifos you should have a look at the Tifos the MLS funs have produced each season!
You can see how those TIFO's are made by watching how the MLS's *Columbus Crew* saved their franchise spot from getting fully transferred to Austin (TX).
Boca Juniors is in the Argentine League but you weren't far off since it was founded by Italian immigrants and one of their nicknames is "Xeneizes" which was slang for "people from Genova" 😄
Actually, my knowledge about ultras is that most of them are banned from going into Stadiums, at least in Spain. Boixos Nois for example (it tranlates as Crazy Boys in catalan) are banned in FC Barcelona Stadium, most of them have links to neonazi organizations and motorbike neonazi gangs and whatnot. Same for Ultra Sur (South Ultras in spanish), who are the Real Madrid Ultras. I don't know much about the topic, so I can't say if most ultras have strong political affiliations and if they are violent or whatever, so I won't generalize, but in these cases, the links with Nazism are there and I think that a beautiful sport like football can't be their excuse to be violent and to support Nazism. I've also heard that some ultra groups in Spain are still tolerated. Like ultras from Atlético de Madrid, which have been in the news lately for very racist chants and harassment towards a Real Madrid player, Vinicius Jr. And in the cases they are tolerated, as you can see, they don't behave very well either. There are very dedicated fans around, people that chant, that wave flags, that cheer, and that don't call themselves ultras, because how the world ultra has such negative connotations.
@@AtnaRecords1 They are used interchangeably here in Spain, they even use the word Ultras in their name, as I said, I'm not generalizing, I'm pointing out examples of 2 big clubs in Spain, Barça and Madrid, in which ultras have strong links with nazism and they are banned from entering the Stadium.
tifon like these are planned and painted months before game by ultras groups, there are over 100 people ( even more ) behind it and its normaly thousands of dollars :)
Modern tifos are planned on the computer. The ultras have exact plans of the stadium and can design the tifo for every single seat. That's why you never see a single misplaced cardboard or flag in these tifos. The outlines of the huge banners are often printed out on paper with industrial printers, placed on top of canvases and then painted through. Then they are colored and transported to the stadium, where most ultra groups have containers or special rooms to store the tifo. The clubs let the ultras in one or two days before the game so they place all the pieces on the stands.
One important note about the tifos is that, most of the time, 100% of the costs are covered by the ultras or donations from other fans. Many ultra groups refuse to take money from the club because it could open pandoras box and they become paid actors for the club.
Celtics captain was a ball boy played at all youth levels broke into the first team and is now our captain living every fans dream
No club league in europe plays the national anthem before games. Many players are not from that country so it would be stupid to make them learn/sing it. Most leagues just play the league anthem, which is often just a song with no words while the lineups are being presented. Anthems are only played in international football (national teams)
Helpful. I always wondered about the anthem in EPL. I didn’t recognize it
@@lukessportsacademy i mostly watch the Serie A and the fans always whistle over the anthem, so I don’t really hear it, lol
@@AtnaRecords1 I can add that in general European fans hate and adverse any attempt of pre-game entertainment such as songs played loud from stadium speakers . We definitly want to keep the "natural" old school stadium environment, with lights, colours, banners chants and noises only coming from fanbase and ultras, without interference from commercial or clubs' entertainment purposes.
Clubs just care to put eleven players on the pitch, the stadium and the environment only belongs to us: the people 😅
Sc Heerenveen plays the frisian national anthem before each of their games
In Britain apart from international games the national anthem is for cup finals when a member of the monarchy is present. Which makes them special one of occasions. But it was done recently for the coronation. With mixed results. In Liverpool in particular.
In England, there is a great hatred for a team called “MK Dons”, who used to be called “Wimbledon” from a completely different place to where they are now. Where a owner, took the club, renamed it, moved it to a different place and stole the people’s teams history. This forced the people of Wimbledon to form a new club ( A.F.C. Wimbledon) and start from the very bottom of the English pyramid (they are now in the same league next season). So clubs moving places is shone and extremely rare.
Well said. My Club,simply,moved grounds ,just 1/2 mile away,30 years ago in 1993 and I still haven't forgiven them :)
@@Isleofskye not my team, but I also hate MK dons in solidarity. Just thought it was a good mention based on the topic being discussed
@@nameanteater4772 😀
@Θεόδωρος I am not certain. It seems to be a highly controversial thing, according to the clubs websites, MK Dons don’t claim previous honours of Wimbledon FC, whereas Wimbledon AFC do claim the honours. From what I’ve seen the general consensus depends on if you see Wimbledon FC and Wimbledon AFC as 2 separate clubs or as 1 clubs but almost reborn/renamed.
Are there really any fans or supporters of that club? Because I would hate that team even if it moved to my hometown
25:20 just to give you an example, here in France we have 14,731 football clubs. Each city, even very very small has its own club (or several)
Allez stade brestois allez🔴⚪
@@gabrielrigaud9426 ahah rpz la Bretagne (je suis breton aussi) 💪
@@FaradayHxH BZH aussi ici les gars
In Germany Over 24000 Clubs
Over 40,000 in England
Tifos are generally painted on painter's tarpaulins. Assemble them, tape them from the back. Some may take 4-5 weekends to complete. They are displayed at the beginning of the match (usually when the home team enters the pitch).
For example, the two cities of Brescia and Bergamo in Northern Italy have been at war for 900 years. When Italy united football was becoming more and more important and consequently that hatred moved from the battlefields to the stadiums. The fans literally see themselves as a different people, as a different tribe, the symbol of Brescia comes directly from the city’s resistance to the Austria-Hungarian Empire in the nineteenth century, when a kid is born in Bergamo he’ll receive an Atalanta shirt (Bergamo’s Club). The Football Clubs are the direct consequence of historical, cultural, political and religious divisions
Honored and pleased to have my comment quoted in your show. I say this, because - as you noticed - we in your comment sections really love the sport (for all the reasons mentioned), and also - love to see someone else falling in love with this beautiful sport. In other words, we love to share our love for it. Football is truly an international language, where we all "understand" each other (as we speak the same language) - at least, in terms of our love for it. And I don't know about others, but I think that it is a joy to share with others in something that (at its best) is good, beautiful, and passion-filled.
TL;DR It's not by chance that you, Luke, have experienced how supportive and welcoming the football-lovers who showed up in your comments are. Because they are eager to help you on your way into this world. Into the beautiful (global) game.
Boca Juniors is Argentina !
Yeah I checked this in editing 😩
@@lukessportsacademy it's ok, you are not very good in geometry
@@RvieiraBrCa 😂
@@RvieiraBrCa you passed the vibe check
@@lukessportsacademy The Ultras are in the stadium hours before the game starts and distribute the individual pieces (mostly plastic) to hold up in the right place so that it makes a picture when everyone holds it up. A choreo can cost more than 100k euros, which is all financed by donations from fans and Ultras. Look at Bayern - Real 2014 choreo Allianz Arena. It is over the entire stadium. At Barca Ultras are not seen with pleasure and the choreos/tifos are made by sponsors and are therefore not particularly creative and affectionate. As well as everywhere else, (the fan culture in England has unfortunately become really bad but that's a very long story of its own) the tifos/choreos are handmade and financed by the fans.
Boca Juniors, from Buenos Aires in Argentina, their big rival, I suppose you can call it a Derby, is a team called River Plate, a team also in Buenos Aires, and when they played I'm pretty sure it's called El Superclasico, and those matches are insane. I watched it for the first time this season in the Argentina league, and it ended 1-0 River Plate, and there were at least 5 or 6 red cards handed out within the last few seconds of the game. And the crowd atmosphere is unbelievable.
Matt Damon, witch is married to an Argentinian, said in one interview that the craziest thing he ever witnessed in his life was a Superclassico in Buenos Aires. Boca Juniors Stadium, aka La Bombonnera, is one of the most insane soccer pitches ever made.
80 thousand people enter the river stadium, and every match it is full, until very recently genius world cup champions players such as Enzo Fernandez and Julian Alvarez were playing there, I went to the stadium many times and saw them play, the atmosphere is crazy
I love what you’re doing with your channel and appreciate your genuine efforts to really understand the game. It can’t be easy as you don’t have the media and cultural saturation we have in Europe but you’re doing a brilliant job. Are you starting to follow a specific team? That’s when the sport goes from being not just interesting to something much more personal. Even if the team you choose isn’t that great (in fact especially if they’re not that great) you’ll get an even deeper insight into the more emotional side of the game.
Clubs have their own anthems, thus before every home game, the anthem of the home team is played. Spanish and Italian teams have very beautiful anthems; Real Madrid and Barça's anthem is up there, you should react to it. Most of the European clubs also have other sports for instance Barça has a basketball team, handbol, field hockey, ice hockey, volleyball, rollerblade hockey, athletics, ice skating, rugby, futsal, esports and so much. Their handbol team just qualified for champions league quarter finals. The ultras support all these teams and go to games.
Al Ahly in Egypt once had a Tifo in the African Champions League that spelled (Football for the fans) thats changed language every few seconds, it was with pieces of paper that have a different colour on each side and it is numbered so you know which part needs to be held up at each sign from the "Capo" i.e the man who signals
He should check out North African fans. Extremely underrated. I am from Casablanca and you as Al Ahly would know the derby is here.
@@MyHaytem underrated by everyone except us Brother 😉
Final is gonna be massive this year 🤞🏼
The last time the Milan Derby took place in a UCL semi final was in mid to late 2000s, the 2nd leg had to be abandoned because of fan violence and fans throwing flares on the pitch. Tho the players got a few cold photos out of it lmao
Boca Juniors are from Argentina, but they do have roots in Italian immigration. If you cover South America in the future, you could cover the rivalry between them and River Plate. COPA90 made a really good documentary on youtube about it.
And what happened when River Plate was relegated 🤯😳
Oh yeah I'm Italian and at my village there were some elderly people who supported Boca, because they had come back from their youngster emigration to Argentina in the 40's...
Fun fact about Boca Juniors.
When deciding their colors, they decided to take the colors of the first ship that arrived at the port that day, and i happened to be a Swedish ship.
you must react to the day River was relegated to the second division in Argentina!
@@tevlar and apparently anyone from Sweden get free admission. Have not verified that though 😉
Choreo, chanting, drums and singing happens throughout the WHOLE game.
Luca, KT from Italy here. Best way to visualise the meaning/role of ultras is they are player #12. Tifo or tifoso is italian for fan
And maybe one more thing, a lot of those teams you mentioned also have "branch team" in other sport (especially teams from mainland continental Europe). For example (If you're into NBA), The Gasol Brothers used to play for FC Barcelona Bàsquet and Luka Dončic used to play for Real Madrid Baloncesto.
Hi Luke and Corey! With regards to the World Wars… there were no summer Olympics in 1916 due to World War I. It was awarded to Berlin, Germany but didn’t take place. So there was an 8 year gap from the 1912 Olympics in Stockholm, Sweden to the 1920 Olympics in Antwerp, Belgium. Then when World War II broke out in September 1939, the 1940 Summer Olympics that awarded to Tokyo, Japan and the 1944 Olympics awarded to London, Great Britain were both cancelled. Once the war was over in 1945, the first Summer Olympics were then held in 1948 hosted by London, Great Britain. With respects to domestic football during war times, leagues were stopped and suspended until the end of war and then resumed again after those wars when it was deemed appropriate to carry on. That’s my understanding of it but best thing to do is to have a look online. I’m really loving your channel man and Corey is a welcome addition. Take care
A point about you guys wanting to learn the history of the sport and also a point about how deeply footy runs through our culture.. I'm from Lancashire, within 20 miles or so from me is man utd and city, Liverpool and Everton as well as dozens of other notable teams.. but in high school while studying history, one of the units that I studied was the history of football! We went to the history museum at Preston's ground and a trip to Blackburn rovers ground among others! Absolutely loved it haha.. interesting to show how relevant it is though for it to be part of the school curriculum in my school
"Tifo" is Italian meaning literally "fanatic enthusiasm" and the people who have that "fanatic enthusiam" for Football" are called "Tifosi"/Tifoso when it is just 1 person respectively and the term "Tifos" is just the abbreviation for the term "Tifosi" (basically the same as like in English saying "isn´t" instead of "is not")
The term "Tifosi/Tifos" - in Italy - basically just describes "the avarage Italian Football Fans" because Italians are extremely passionate even literally "hot-blooded" by nature in general about all kinds of stuff when they choose to like something as like as for instance when it comes down to "love affairs/hate affairs" or even their "traditional cuisine" (so do not change a classical Italian recipe for a classical traditional Italian meal and then dare to call it "original Italian" or give that different made meal "the original Italian name" like for instance "Bolognese, Carbonara or what ever" when it actually was made slightly differently because that will cause huge immense trouble with any native Italian....just mentioned as a sidenote in behalf of what you call in the US "Italian food" because all those "US-Italian foods" are differently made/have different recipes than "original Italian food" like for instance your "Meatballs with Spaghetti and Tomatosauce" is not "original Italian" at all and is not to get in Italy anywhere..in Italy you will get meatballs but those taste different and you will get Spaghetti in Tomatosauce but never ever both combined)
....and the "Ultras" are basically "the next level Tifosi" in behalf of being "hot-blooded" for Football/their Football club in particular"..So all Ultras are Tifosi/Tifos but not all Tifosi/Tifos are Ultras.
Tifosi is literally Typhus 😂
I am from Nigeria (Africa) and I did the opposite journey from the one you're on about two decades ago
Once we started to get cable, I learned almost all US sports and got really interested in American football and NBA. I can watch Baseball. It's only Ice Hockey I struggle with because it seems like chaotic extremely fast football.
I like that you're learning soccer and I for one don't like the either/or nature of many fans who don't seem to understand you can like multiple sports
Hey I've been really binging your videos! I like this format where you react about something/someone and talk about it
TBF "I suck at geometry" to every geographical topic is hilarious :D
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there is a ww1 story that german and allied solders stopped fighting on christmas day
1 side sang christmas carrolls the other joined in they met in no mans land while under a ceassfire
sang, ate, drank and played a game of football
The one that looks like shirts for Barcelona, they're probably all squares of plastic, placed on each seat pre-game, then the fans don't have to organise anything, they just have to hold the plastic up at the right time
You have to watch the TIFO from FC Basel vs Fiorentina it was 3 Days ago and their FIBO was insane. They played each other in the Europe Conference League. It was a huge basilisc. FYI the first international cup is Champions League, then Europe League, then Europa Conference League.!!! I was in the Stadium
In club football games they play the club's anthem before the game, not the national anthem unless it's a Cup final (like Copa del Rey in Spain or FA Cup in England). When national teams play, tte anthem of each country is played, but not in club football. In a Champions League game they play the Champions League anthem too, but not any national anthem. Clubs are so historically rooted in the community that they have actual anthems. It happens with otter sports in Europe too. You have to understand that all these clubs used to be actual sports clubs for the community. If you go back 80 years or 100 years that's what they were. Imagine your YMCA, your Boys & Girls club, an old gymnasium like the ones we see in movies, your college sports teams... it was all of that and more in just one organization. As a matter of fact, many football clubs have sections for other sports. FC Barcelona foi example, they also have a futsal team, a basketball team, a handball team, a field hockey team and I think even an American Football team, and they're all under the umbrella of FC Barcelona. Manu more clubs in Europe do it or have done that in the past. That's why in Spain we see so many "Racing Club", "Athletic Club", "Sporting Club", "Club Deportivo" (Sports Club) and so on, because originally they were the places to play organized sports in general. And this happens in Latin America as well, it's not only Europe. It's very different from US American sports these days.
Here in Brazil we have a lot of people with italian roots, i believe it is second most europian origin behind of portugal, so there were those two times called Palestra Itatlia that we call today Cruzeiro from Minas Gerais state and Palmeiras from São Paulo, they had to change their names when Brazil entered the war on tge allied side and that history is not just interesting by itself but because it mirrors the prosecution especially germanic minorities faced during that, even they though they had come in the 1800's the government prohibited they speaking their native language and kids were forced to be educated in portuguese
Womens football took off in a big way during WW2 with 80,000 people showing up for an fa cup final, but after the men came back from the war womens fa cup was banned
In 1911 Mohunbagan won ifa shield became 1st Indian club ro win the competition. The myth says that the players and locals motivated each other by saying that they could kick some Brits colonials on field without being jailed.
One interesting note on ultras, they can often hold real power in some societies. I have a friend and former teacher who was involved with the Al-Ahly ultras in Egypt. During the 2011 Egyptian Revolution, he says the Al-Ahly and Zamalek (their archrival) ultras were important organizers in Tahrir Square and the Revolution at large. Because the ultra groups are already well-organized and primarily composed of young men, they were able to serve as de facto protectors for more vulnerable protesters. I can’t do my friend’s stories justice, but tldr the ultras of Egypt’s two biggest clubs played a role in the revolution, and this has happened in other countries as well.
A big part of why college football is so big because Americans are so prideful about where they got educated for three or four years probably because the insane costs to go there. The topic of what university people went to is rarely mentioned in society, and never at sports, your die hard ultras and fans are working class people, who probably aren't higher educated.
In terms of the locals, you obviously can't move a college and there are multiple equal conferences in the FBS and FCS so there are over 250 teams. Which gives the illusion of a community spirit, but a real community would be tied to the town, not a separate corporate establishment whose soul purpose is to reap money from its students.
They are devoted in terms of dressing up and doing stupid shit, college fans. I think thats down to the fact that most people who would go to colleges have only a weak interest in sports, and are only going to fit or to be a part of something, there is no deep moral or political affiliation with the team. Considering how many women are in attendance at college sports, you don't have to be a genius to know that women do not like sports any where near as much as men, thats just a fact, but their higher than average attendance at college games is evidence that people who are not fully committed to the team are willing to sit in the crowd. Sports are not about fun, its fun to win, fun to dominate, but there is a serious element, that college sports (the so called best supported sports in the US) miss out on.
To me personally if I had to go to a college and go to sports games with all the other suckers at the college I wouldn't go, I would want to be among like minded individuals not just random students. Also if you associate college with stress and exams, surely you would associate the team with those same emotions.
All people said, I do root for Notre Dame, as it is one of the most Irish Catholic teams in America since I support Celtic FC. I just wish rather than that team being part of a private institution that only lets in the most intelligent, it was a separate team, that preaches the same messages as Celtic. Instead of someone running out dressed as a Leprechaun, there should be songs about the IRA and British Oppression. But Americans don't really give a shit about stuff across the pond so I guess its pointless.
Great stuff! Especially as a historian + football fan it's really interesting!
My husband used to live in fulham (a borough) in london opposite whwre Fulham play, and the fulham football club was originally set up as the church football club at the church he was church warden of.
In English football, the only times the National Anthem is played are the Cup Finals. Normal games, it's the club's anthems that are played before games. E.g. Leeds - marching on together. Liverpool - You'll never walk alone. Newcastle - local hero / Blaydon Races. Sunderland - Can't help falling in love ETC.
I would love to see a video about of why do Americans love American football. Please make it happen 🙏
We will. We are going to spend a lot of time making it though. Not just going to throw it together.
@@lukessportsacademy I’m a big American Football fan in the UK so would love to see this too
More great content! Loving the journey. I really need to know more about Hand Egg, so bring on the explainer vids!
Interesting debate on the national anthem... Yeah, we don't tend to sing our anthem at games (only the World Cup) where it is a respectful representation (with occasional booing🤣) of each country's culture and identity. The idea of singing 'God Save the King' at matches probably will never fly over here but hey, there are currently a weird crop of UK politicians emerging from the shadows that would definitely cream themselves over an enforced sing-along! Personally, I think there's something about the mandatory singing of your own hype-theme to an indigenous audience that seems like an intense lack of self-confidence. The USA definitely doesn't lack self-confidence - which is what makes it all a bit scary😜 .
At the start of WW1 the British, as part of recruitment drives, promised that groups of men who volunteered together could serve together with their friends and others from their villages in so called "pals battalions".
The result was that all the men of whole families and even villages and neighborhoods could be wiped out in even a single attack.
The football club you mentioned wouldn't have been the only one this happened to.
the video actually starts with the reaction to UEFA's reaction to what they did the year before, when they remembered a world war massacre, something the UEFA wasn't happy with, so they fined the club, and so, the "guess who's back..." also is directed at the UEFA like they were saying, you're not getting rid of us.
Also, players can move freely to other teams but there are certain taboos like joining the rival team. So usually they try to go to a different league.
Oh and very wealthy teams may buy players just to prevent their rivals from having them. They then loan those players out to teams in other leagues to avoid having to play against their own loaned out player.
Indeed there's a Netflix documentary about Luis Figo leaving Barcelona and going to Real Madrid and the entire story around that move.
@@jdevlin1910 yes and how a pigs head was thrown onto the field 🤯. Guess they haven't invented pigs head detectors yet
Professional sports in Europe are more like college / high school sports in the US in terms of the connection to the community - ie they’re not franchises and they cover much smaller geographical areas than say NFL teams do. For example the Seattle Seahawks fan base is predominantly from the whole of the massive Pacific Northwest, all the way across to Montana. But if Seattle were an English city they may very well have two teams, and historically your location within the city, your occupation and social background etc might impact which team you support, and then that support is handed down through over 100 years of your family… it builds strong ties.
Coincidentally there’s also no connection between school sports and professional sports (except that you might get scouted playing for your school team - from elementary level up. If you’re playing in college (university) here in the U.K. though it’s just for fun for most sports, few people are going to have a professional career in sports from there as it’s too late - unless they are already also playing that sport at a higher level outside of the University team. But for soccer you’ll already be playing professionally at college age usually.
to be honest, it's maybe because it's new to an european, but the draft system kinda interest me a little, i still think it wouldn't do good over here, but as just a "fan", i think it would be fun to let your imagination try to "teambuild", imagine what will happen if that player were to join that team and see the games as experiment
Also i don't think there's as much players who play for the team they love as you can imagine, it depends on how good you are, your position, how you play the game, what the club needs at what moment, how you got better/evolved, where you're from, ... most young really start in the local fourth division club's youth team, and if they're good enough they may go to a bigger city nearby, and then it's up to the training center and how it will let you progress
34:30 there's an interesting video on youtube called "Ted Talk - Why Americans will never accept Soccer" , it's about a school presentation (idk how exactly it's called) , it's a short video and the point of view was interestint to me because i didn't knew much about how it worked in America
43:00 this pre-season there was a pre-season game, Barcelona against Juventus, in Dallas
In Germany the second biggest city Hamburg is also very split footballclub wise. There is the Hamburger Sportverein (HSV) and its rival FC St. Pauli.
The derbys are often very intense and they kinda also represent different parts of society and political spectrum.
I love those videos of the two of you, that's what they say: want to go faster go alone, want to go futher go with someone
it's honestly so refreshing to see actual americans engaging with other cultures in good faith, and with curiosity
The other thing with football, all you really need is something to use as ball.... Then can be jumper's for goal posts, or using walls, tree's, bus stops... So accessable from any age up until atleast until getting into under age teams who ask for nominal fees
united vs real madrid is also coming to dallas, around the same time. the tickets would unfortunately also be expensive as f...
If you want to know a bit about liverpool, celtic and the Irish supporters and why a lot a deep rivaly exists with them and other teams like rangers, basically Irish catholics in northern ireland are huge supportors of celtic in scotland because we both share a deep connection of suffering under english oppression as well as a gaelic scotland once being a part of ireland and many events of immigration back and forth have taken place. In recent years though due to irish opression in the north and the rising irish civil rights movement, a rivalry formed between the unionts who supported rangers in scotland and the irish catholics who supported celtic in scotland, a similar support with irish catholics exists with liverpool, this is why both liverpool and celtic sing 'The fields of Athenry' which is an irish staple which you should definitely check out , a song ive heard that song since the day i was born haha, its quinticentially irish and its a song about the famine when we faced what was essentially ethnic cleansing as part of english rule, the population today still hasnt recovered with 2 million dead and 3 million immigrated or sent abroad, young men were sent to england, austrialia etc on prision ships and as indetured servants, you can see this clearly in the lyrics of the song, for example ''For you stole Trevelyan's corn , So the young might see the morn, Now a prison ship lies waiting in the bay''. Charles Travellyan famously said that the famine was gods way of punishing the irish.
Later then, still suffering from the events of the past and with the north in turmoil, during the troubles a lot of irish catholics moved to liverpool to escape the violence, i have a number of family uncles, aunts, cousins in both liverpool and glasgow. When i was young in northern ireland i had friends that were stabbed because they were in the wrong area wearing a celtic shirt, or personally ive been chased, had bricks thrown at, etc for wearing a celtic shirt, you werent allowed to wear team shirts in school (despite segregated schools) or on busses and sometimes not even in the city centre it was that inflamatory. Similarly those wearing rangers shirts would have faced a lot of similar violence going into catholic areas. Look into the irish civil rights movement, the troubles and the good friday agreement if you want to find out more, rights for irish citizens to be irish wasnt just what they were fighting for, many i knew were huge supporters of lgbt rights and today we massively support palestine too which furthers the meaning of the song in todays eyes imo with liverpool being a great city for lgbt pride too. We also align with a lot of other countries too whos people faced similar issues, in spain, turkey etc. Today fortuntely the animosity has mostly died down and many today barely remember or never knew the violence of our recent past and we seem to be making great strides for equality and peace in Northern Ireland.
Theres definitely a sense of immense pride when youre standing at a street by an irish pub in turkey and the entire street is belting fields of athenry for whatever game is on. The early 2000s when ireland made it decently far in the world cup was some of the craziest shit ive seen, we were on holiday in grand canaria in spain and the entire beachfront was going absolutely mental, kinda too far to be honest haha, thats the sense of energy that we can install and i think its our hardships that made us this passionate.
Link to the fields of athenry a classic version czcams.com/video/_NlrsmEvv1Q/video.html
during rugby
czcams.com/video/4N_t9_4hatc/video.html
liverpool v celtic
czcams.com/video/N76Z5Vz-bOY/video.html
Celtic v Rangers recent rivalry which started in 1888 😅😅😅
Pele was instrumental in stopping a war in Africa continent. So that a football game can be played. This sport is a religious ( ppl of all different walks of life) .
Yes ! The sport is growing in the states. There are many factors that hurt the growth: Kids have to pay to play the sport ( in the US ) whereas in Europe kids get paid to play. . It’s viewed as a sport for rich white kids . Which doesn’t give low income kids a chance to play the sport or discouraging them from the sport .
Many European leagues were suspended during the first and second world wars.
In England, at least, it was banned to pay players during the war - but there were some matches that took place to raise money for charity. And womens football was really popular during that time.
WW2 - football in England went on. The normal league and the FA Cup was suspended but there was a ‘wartime league’ split into Northern and Southern sections and a wartime cup. Paying players wasn’t banned. They were paid for matches they played, however they either served in the military or in reserved essential occupations and played when available. They had a guest system which allowed players to play for other clubs - players often turned out for teams near their military bases.
That Borussia Dortmund part of the stadium you showed on the video and on the thumb is called “the yellow wall”. They remove the seats and everyone is standing the whole time, so they can put more people in the stadium. Borussia has the highest occupancy amongst all European clubs. Their season tickets are sold out for decades.
Regarding the loyalty of players to their childhood team... I'm a Benfica fan (portuguese team that you should go find out by the way, has one of the best youth academies in the world and we had one of the goats of the world Eusebio and have 2 ECL titles and 4 finals) and we had players that where transfered to the biggest clubs in Europe because we are a small team compared to the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool... financial wise and we need the money to survive and stay competitive. A lot of those players do comeback to Benfica to finish their career just because they love the club, they even drop their salary to less than half to do so. We had Rui Costa (AC Milan and portuguese legend), Di Maria, Nuno Gomes returning to the club after going away to play abroad. Bernardo Silva, Ruben Dias (Man city) and João Cancelo (Barcelona) hopefully are next in line to return ;)
Another huge superpower of the game is Uruguay. The were hosts to the original world cup because they had won the gold medal at the previous Olympic games. They were one country with many immigrants that introduced the country to the beautiful game early in its growth. They are the smallest nation (in population) to have won a world cup, having won 2. They won one either side of WWII. They would likely have won 3 or 4 if they had participated in the second world cup. They didn't because many didn't travel to South America for their hosting of the cup. It felt like a slight on their significance to the game when many countries dismissed the original world cup as something trivial. They (Europeans) didn't believe it would overtake the Olympics in terms of significance. So the fact they didn't even attempt to defend the original championship is one that they have honor and pride as they should. They were easily the best in the world for a few decades and it's sad their significance isn't stated enough. The talent to have come out of Uruguay is far beyond nations of much larger populations. They have produced many legendary players that played the game with a tenacity unheard of in many places. They always would fight for the ball and to keep play ongoing, instead of being feeble "divers" like many players are taught to be in other nations.
I say three or four because the world cup took a 12 year sabbatical to the second world war
Americans really criticise Brits saying "Lester" when they say places like New Orlins, Arkinsar and Mehrilund
Wydad Casablanca & Raja Casablanca their Ultras are by faar the best ultras in the world !!
Btw I like the name of the podcast, Derby derbs sounds hella cool
As a dortmund fan you should definitly watch a game live. I genuenly beleive we have one of the best fanbases and a stadium with a capacity of 80,000. If you are in germany it is a must
6:42 tifo is also a great footbal channel! www.youtube.com/@Tifo
In Italy more than 12.000 football clubs.
Every little village has a church AND a football club.
About homegrown player who get to thr first team. There is the step above it, altough more and more rare these days. Some player play they ENTIRE CAREER in one club. You talk about Milan, Paolo Maldini did it and he's even in the board of director now.
Some club had multiple generation from framillys playing. Still the Maldinis at Milan (father, son Paolo and grand son), Busquets at barcelona, ect.
Also Barcelona and Real Madrid founded great basketball teams for the spanish league
In one of your videos you talk about the "hand of god" goal by Maradona. The reason why that world cup was so important for Argentina, and also so important that they won against England, was that both countries had a terrible war about the occupation of some islands in the argentinean sea (ilhas Malvinas or the Falklands) just 4 years earlier, and Argentina lost the war. The reasons for England entering the war were tied to their colonialist past in Latin America. People in Argentina, and also in many third world countries, felt that Argentina winning was a way to "make justice", at least in a simbolic way.
"I grew two hours away from that team so i will support it"
In europe/middle east, if you live half an hour drive from a team, that team is your rival and you probably even hate it more than the ones 10 hours drive away.
If you end up doing some videos about America's love for the NFL Football, you need to highlight some of the crazy moments in NFL History like
-The Immaculate Reception
-The Hail Mary
-The Holy Roller
-The Sea of Hands
-The Fog Bowl
-The Patriots - Raiders Tuck Rule Game.
-The Buffalo Bills comeback against the Houston Oilers
-Mike Brown's Game Winning Pick Sixes in Overtime in Back to Back Weeks. (That one is a personal preference)
As well as the Ice Bowl 🥶
@@lukessportsacademy That one too! :)
The whole thing with the cards that make the patern is aranged by the stadium. They just leave the cards on each individual seat and people who seat there pick them up and raise them
Dude, the geometry joke was allright
You not only have multiple teams per city, you can have multiple clubs in the same neighborhood.
Just in Barrio Obrero, a neighborhood in Asuncion you have Cerro Porteño, Nacional, Sol de América and Atlántida all next to each other. Though, Sol de América moved its stadium to another city the club office remained in the same place, and Atlántida is not in the professional league
Other teams that share the same neighborhood are Independiente de Avellaneda and Racing de Avellaneda in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Boca Juniors is in Argentina , the legend Maradona played for that club.
The draft system you have in the US is the most non-American thing I can think of. It’s actually anti capitalist. Capitalism is not about allocation, it’s about free market and freedom of choice. I’m still surprised about this whenever I hear about American professional sports.
During WWII there was no World Cup. But football (or as you call it soccer) was definitly played. It was even at that difficult time the most popular game. I'm from The Netherlands and football was very, very important. People had a moment to forget the misery of occupation.
After WWII we the Dutch hated Germans. Can you blame us? But football also brings people together. After we beat the Germans in 1988 in the semi-finals, the hatred just went away. We had our revenge and from that moment on we became best friends with the Germans.
I don't know why people flame you in the comments for not knowing things. You're obviously learning. I'm from the UK and I only care about Arsenal. I couldn't even tell you the starting 11 for Real Madrid, because they have nothing to do with my team. If knowledge of them comes my way, so be it, but don't feel like you have to cram everything in your head because you'll start seeing this as a job and develop hate for it. Just relax, take your time and you will learn. People in the comments will help you, and you can do your own research on your own time, being in the space of football will ultimately bring some knowledge to you about the sport and different players, managers, stadiums, etc. Learn this VERY BROAD sport at your own pace man, it's not going anywhere, the historic players will stay historic and new players with start making waves.
100%
Bro I can't imagine being a player on the opposing team walking out of the tunnel to this madness 🤯🤯🤯
I know a few guys be shitting their pants FOR SURE !!!! this can make or break the whole game!! like DAAAAMN !!!
Football players around do not just play for their home club .they are on the whole professional and some play for many clubs at home or for clubs in other countries
That is why you get some all-powerful teams like Man City, Real Madrid, and all the other big clubs in Europe and South America
They have the National anthems at International games..but not at club games
at club game its typical to listen to the club anthem if they enter the pitch
Widad and Raja of CASABLANCA from Morocco are one of the best in World.
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Dinamo Kiev has a sad story during ww2.
good reaction would be the documentary of the 140 old derby from scotland, Celtic vs Rangers
The olympics weren’t held during WW2. The one you’re thinking of, in Berlin, was in 1936. In the occupied countries, the leagues were suspended and restarted after the war. Scotland wasn’t occupied by the Germans.
Fun video! Two points:
1) During WW1 in England, initially football continued, but once it became clear that the war wouldn’t “be over by Christmas”, men’s football was suspended as lots of the players were called to fight. Women’s football then stepped into the breach (as women also were stepping into factories) and became incredibly popular (100k+ crowds) as ppl needed something fun to watch. Once the war ended, the FA banned women from playing football to appease the returning men, as they were worried people would prefer the women’s teams. This ban was in place until 1970! And is honestly shameful/the reason why women’s football lags behind men’s.
2) Although ultras groups are largely a positive - mostly there to support their team - they also have some negative connotations especially in Italy. Italian ultras have made racist comments about players, told players to get over racism/put up with it and left stickers of Anne Frank at away stadiums. Not saying they’re all bad, but just be wary of uncritical praise!
can't believe you knew Da Bronco, i subscribe to him too
If you two ever come in France I'll take you to a game !
One of the world wars literally stopped and everyone played football (both sides together)
Newcastle are 1 point away from returning to the Champions League after 20 years away. They just need to not lose to Leicester on Monday night to secure their place for next season. The celebrations in the stadium and in the city after the game will be epic!
Boca Junior and River Plate are pretty polarizing in Argentina. Those 2 have over 50% of the fans of the country. They are really passionate.
23:29 that's kinda ironic by the way. Where a lot of life aspects in US are capitalism yet (CMIIW) only US sports looks like adapting socialism concept for their league ecosystem and their players recruitment.
The midsize team fans are often way more fanatic.
The real big ones have like many tourists that are just there for that game, and doesn't really care for the team.
Cool to see you doing a deep dive into the culture of this magnificent sport. I think a big reason why American sports aren't really so big overseas is because it feels so incredibly soulless
16:27 that is the segment you should aim actually. Exploring trivial segment together. As the new NFL fan, I don't attracted to the breakdown of the tactics ( because I still don't comprehend 500 pages thick playbook) or Skipp or Stephen A explaining about the stats ( because I still don't know the meaning for some of the numbers). What I prefer for my NFL knowledge is something like
What is the origin of Bills Mafia?
What makes them behave like that?
The origin of Legion of Boom
What is the reaction from the Cowboys fans when Terrel Owens stands on the blue star?
I think people would likely to prefer that kind of topics because for the technical aspects there are a lot of people offer that kind of content. So let's had some explorations, you tell us about the trivial information for NFL, and we are gonna tell you some of the interesting information about this football
It was clear that the geometry thing was a joke. It was cute joke. But there is always those “righteous” ones who cant get a joke
I understood you saying “geometry” was a joke, but also you are American
Omg!!!! Boca is from ARGENTINA. 😂😂😂😂 Watch San Lorenzo’s ultras also from Argentina and Raja from Morocco They are amazing
I too grew up in a cult. JW's. I wasn't allowed to play sports because it was competitive. In my teens, I played for teams for about 6 years without my family even knowing about it, as they wouldn't have approved and I probably might have been kicked out sooner than I was (17).
Eventually my knee problems kicked in and at 20 I was told I could be in a wheelchair by 30 if I carried on playing (I was a defender, and the kind that never pulled out of a challenge as I was willing to hurt myself - but not the other player. I was brave, not aggressive and not dirty, though I could be cynical when needed). Not the quickest, and I wouldn't be doing tricks and flicks to go round people, but I could stop them doing it to me. I knew where to be, when to be there and what to do once I was there.
I knew I was never good enough to play professionally, but didn't actually appreciate how good I was at the time, especially in my reading of the game, and have been told I was more than capable of playing League of Wales (semi-pro), if not for my knees.
I grew up in the UPCI. Maybe not nearly as intense as JW…but certainly similar.
Check out AZ Alkmaar ultra's attacking West Ham supporters at the end of this weeks game
Tifos have been taken up by by MLS football club supporters and they do a very good job of their Tifos you should have a look at the Tifos the MLS funs have produced each season!
You can see how those TIFO's are made by watching how the MLS's *Columbus Crew* saved their franchise spot from getting fully transferred to Austin (TX).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Midlothian_F.C._and_World_War_I
_"…for American players it’s a job."_
These are indeed mercenaries and looking especially at American football, modern days *gladiators* .
Boca Juniors is in the Argentine League but you weren't far off since it was founded by Italian immigrants and one of their nicknames is "Xeneizes" which was slang for "people from Genova" 😄
With the ones mutiple little pieces as far as i know the ultras put it on the right seat and you just have to pick it and lift it up when it is time
Actually, my knowledge about ultras is that most of them are banned from going into Stadiums, at least in Spain. Boixos Nois for example (it tranlates as Crazy Boys in catalan) are banned in FC Barcelona Stadium, most of them have links to neonazi organizations and motorbike neonazi gangs and whatnot. Same for Ultra Sur (South Ultras in spanish), who are the Real Madrid Ultras. I don't know much about the topic, so I can't say if most ultras have strong political affiliations and if they are violent or whatever, so I won't generalize, but in these cases, the links with Nazism are there and I think that a beautiful sport like football can't be their excuse to be violent and to support Nazism.
I've also heard that some ultra groups in Spain are still tolerated. Like ultras from Atlético de Madrid, which have been in the news lately for very racist chants and harassment towards a Real Madrid player, Vinicius Jr. And in the cases they are tolerated, as you can see, they don't behave very well either.
There are very dedicated fans around, people that chant, that wave flags, that cheer, and that don't call themselves ultras, because how the world ultra has such negative connotations.
Ultra originally means to love your club EXTREMELY, one thing is an ultra, another thing is a hooligan
@@AtnaRecords1 They are used interchangeably here in Spain, they even use the word Ultras in their name, as I said, I'm not generalizing, I'm pointing out examples of 2 big clubs in Spain, Barça and Madrid, in which ultras have strong links with nazism and they are banned from entering the Stadium.
I don’t believe it was during that time but my great great grandfather (I’m not sure how many greats. 2,or 3 played for hearts of midlothian
tifon like these are planned and painted months before game by ultras groups, there are over 100 people ( even more ) behind it and its normaly thousands of dollars :)