Wish the '84 was made into two films. The pacing of the everything after Paul joins the fremen is too quick. The whole love story was done in a few lines of voice over.
I respectfully disagree friend. I don't think it's reasonable faithful. I think it's fraudulent and don't think it should be called Dune. They changed too much. Makes me very upset.
I agree, Villeneuve's Dune confirm that even if Lynch was greatly ostacolated with making his Dune he made a really great movie anyway! Lynch in fact is an extraordinary director and many scenes and moods inspired Denis...
@mdmatt2632 Some of the major changes are: 1. Alia (Paul's sister) is supposed to be born already, and she is the one who kills the Baron. 2. Paul and Chani have a child, Leto II, who is murdered by Harkonnen and is a major turning factor in Paul's decision. 3. Gurney almost kills Jessica because he thinks she is the traitor. 4. Feyd tries to cheat in the final duel with Paul. He is not honorable and should never have been depicted that way. 5. Chani loves and supports Paul, ALWAYS! She wouldn't be upset at the end when Paul married Irulan for the throne. Jessica was concubine, and so was Chani. Both love their men completely. 6. They almost completely left out the "weirding way" which is the fighting style that Paul and Jessica teach the Fremen. 7. Paul's prescience, his ability to see the future comes on gradually, first in dreams, then waking visions, until he takes the water of life and can literally see all possible futures and outcomes. This was highly nerfed in the films and not done well. 8. Entire political and social parties were completely left out. That's just some that come to mind. There are a lot more. So many characters were either changed, sidelined, or left out completely. It's a terrible shame. The syfy series was soon much better in terms of storyline. Yes Dune II is a beautiful big budget movie but they didn't do the storyline the justice it deserves.
@@TooMuchToCareAbout2having a CGI toddler flailing around killing Harkonnens wouldve looked really stupid. Denis made the right changes for the big screen
I still have a soft spot for lynch 84, movie.... It was a mess....but with so much potential...visually stunning... and that soundtrack was outstanding....imo
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@@ecebalyemez8743there are tons of artists that despise their work… while they are considered fantastic, and on the opposite lots of shitty things that are loved by their shitty creators
Dune 2 is definitely the best movie that’s gonna release all year. It was incredible. My eyes were glued to the screen the whole time and it felt like a thriller. Even when Paul gains more power, it feels like something bad is happening. The music is amazibg
It’s that good. I did not expect it. It’s just an amazing experience. Saw it in Dolby and watching it in IMAX next. I’m just in awe of what Denis V made.
The visual is understandable I think, but the art and the acting, is disappointing, I like the new dune after I watched the old one, that shows how superior the new version is
I disagree, especially in a setting that’s in a fucking desert. The worms would have been harder but doable and practically so. Something like Star Wars with laser battles and all that trash would have been far more difficult but also already achieved by that point. If you lean on technology to make a great movie then it’s probably not a great movie.
@@tomsnowden6201you don't realise how limited tech was in 84 and you're just yapping. It's cool, ignorance makes us say not so intelligent things sometimes.
I’ve read all the Dune books and I’m keenly aware of the significant changes they made from the source material, but the costumes and the cast of the Lynch Dune are just SO FRICKING GOOD (except for one or two). There still has never been a better Gaius Helen Mohiam. Or Duke Leto or Lady Jessica. When I imagine the world of Dune while reading the books the stylistic choices of ‘84 Dune still color my imagination. I STILL have not one wit of a problem with all the inner monologuing. It simply works for the film if you’ve read Hebert’s incredibly verbose writing style that includes tons of inner dialogue that only you the reader are aware of. The set construction and costumes comes from seemingly another age when there was little or no special effects and everything was painstakingly crafted by the most gifted of artisans. It just comes from another era. And yes I LOVE the new Dune films - FINALLY some real ornithopters. I love the depiction of that twisted human made into the form of a spider on Geide Prime. They should have really run with that as a punishment for a Harkonnen rival because that so fits the vindictive cruelty of the Harkonnens. Oh and yes, I pronounce it Har-KO-nen.
I disagree regarding '84. The costumes WERE fantastic, but they were not otherworldly in any way. It was very 80s space fashion inspired and many things were very "Earthly". But they were very well done.
I still think Sting is best cast for Feyd-Rautha, despite I don't really like the movies and the mini series. I still think Dune is unfilmable and still waiting to some director proving me wrong.
I liked the voice modules as a kid but when I grew up and read the book and understood what the weirding way really is I disliking the voice module stuff and a little sad they didn't represent it in the new one.
@@TR-mg1eq You read the book! In facet I read the books after 84 one. How many of you read the books after the noew one! Carbon copying lines are not making the movie better! The new one is overrated! And it stole scenes from the 84 extended version. What? You cry for weirding way? Technicality. Overrated actors like Zendaya, Florence Poo and that wet cigarette man Timothy. At least you can picture Kyle Maclachlan to defeat Sting. Timothy couldn't defeat his own granny!
@@riveraharper8166 The ending in Lynch's version is one of the worst endings in cinema history. Paul IS NOT a messiah, he is a FAKE ONE, but in Lynch's version it happens to be that Paul is a REAL messiah, an entity choose him, it rains over Arrakis and the planet will become a green planet, which is the opposite of the meaning of the book's, Paul is the definition of a newborn tirant and Lynch makes him a real messiah? It's the worst idea and an insult for the original story. If you have any problem with the cast of the film is your problem.
@@andresramirez13 1. Let's see how this one handle that! 2. You think a single movie can show everything from the vast knowledge of the books? If you can't understand that's YOUR problem!
@Anthony-qj7qe to me, the only line I even remember out of this adaptation is when I, myself, said i WILL kill him. Even the dialogue is banal. Wtf did they do to this story?
Virginia Madsen was stunning in the original Dune. So was Sean Young. I am happy we have the 1984 version in 4K along with these superior new dune movies! Great time to be a dune fan!
@@riveraharper8166The voice is supposed to be intimidating. You’re just an old geezer that just hates new shit. Dune 84 was so bad and wasn’t even adapted from the books correctly. Also the intro was really cringe to watch
It got a lot of things wrong - including some big, important things - but Dune 1984 will always look fantastic. Costumes, makeup, creature designs, vfx - all great even by modern standards
ABSOLUTELY, I’ve read all the Dune books and I’m keenly aware of the significant changes they made from the source material, but the costumes and the cast are just SO FRICKING GOOD (except for one or two). There still has never been a better Gaius Helen Mohiam. Or Duke Leto or Lady Jessica. When I imagine the world of Dune while reading the books the stylistic choices of ‘84 Dune still color my imagination. I STILL have not one wit of a problem with all the inner monologuing. It simply works for the film if you’ve read Hebert’s incredibly verbose writing style that includes tons of inner dialogue that only you the reader are aware of. The set construction and costumes comes from seemingly another age when there was little or no special effects and everything was painstakingly crafted by the most gifted of artisans. It just comes from another era. And yes I LOVE the new Dune films - FINALLY some real ornithopters. I love the depiction of that twisted human made into the form of a spider on Geide Prime. They should have really run with that as a punishment for a Harkonnen rival because that so fits the vindictive cruelty of the Harkonnens. Oh and yes, I pronounce it Har-KO-nen.
@@kanoreese1253 I respect it. I own it on physical and in digital on two different sites. But I view it more as a guilty pleasure. Villeneuve's adaptation for me is Herbert's world fully realised.
Grew up watching the 1984 David Lynch adaptation & watching it led to me picking up the books. Love both the Lynch adaptation & the new films by Denis Villeneave. The Sci-Fi Channel miniseries adaptations also deserve recognition & love.
@matejkamar325 Yeah We did. Virginias Dune intro alone is better Than anything what Florence can dish out. Flo voice is not a princess but a waitress after a shift Zendaya brought her 1 face: irritated bored cow face. Chalamet is sooo charismatic and intimidating that I question he can defeat her own granny ín a knife fight. Not tó mention feyd. While I like Brolin Patrick Stewart is just good ín every sci-fi. The only ones who brought a different and interesting approch are Ferguson and Skarsgard.
These comparisons make the 84 film look all the better. What I will say is at least their stillsuit discipline has improved, even if it is still shocking
Seldom does a re-make of such an iconic movie series overshadow the original. But this...THIS recent iteration of Dune was in the most literal sense, an unimaginable innovative improvement on all levels, from the original. It was for lack of a better word, "breathtaking." I cannot wait for part 3, to further re-write cinematic history!
incomparable to the original of course. Absolutely untouchable. But to add i really admire the deep effort and greatness put into the new franchise hats off
It's a real shame that David Lynch's Dune was such a nightmare for him to make and i can appreciate both movies but the new Dune is just such a better experience!
Into what exactly? Bland concept art, nothing more. If they were done 10 years ago, people would cry eww bad cgi, but now this is considered an artistic choice. The previous versions had zero budget, but at least they had vision and iconic, crazy designs and not just hue hue hue what about black clothes and white featureless faces? huehuehue that looks eeeevviill hahaha xD The movie isn't bad or boring, just absolutely bland and forgettable compared to the low budget, legit terrible 80s movie and TV shows. nobody will talk about this Dune in 5 years
@@Oswald-xy3tr No. And I absolutely hated the original film. But it is much more "it" and a statement. it has its own look, like Lord of the Rings has, like Star Wars has, Pirates of the Caribbean, nuDune has no character to itself. Upscale and redo with CGI some of the old movie's scenes, with the same look, just better quality, and it is much more interesting and iconic
Enjoyed the new version but wouldn't ever watch it a second time. I've watched the old version many many times, and will probably watch it again soon. Less spectacle, but fantastic story-telling.
@@lautarovazquez3193 yup from the sci-fi channel in the early 2000s. They did Dune, and another miniseries that covered Dune Messiah and Children of Dune.
The 1984 movie is more directly pulled from the book, even utilizing inner monologue which is no easy task ti translate into a movie. But I think the newer versions are more practical looking in design. The books are whacky as hell in environment but are very serious in tone. Both these movies are definitely products of their time and how sci-fi was viewed in that era.
It’s not a good take to use inner monologue. It’s a bad idea here bc they didn’t know how to represent ideas with the tools of visualization. That’s what is this movie about. Cinema is not a book. It’s picture in motion. So they have very different interpretations and tools for that. Lord of the Rings understands the assignment here. The new Dune movie too.
@@nazimelmardii disagree, the scenes of their inner thoughts as whispers are extremely powerful to me in a way i found the new movies lacking. The way you stare into the eyes of the actor and listen to their thoughts is amazing. Like when paul has his waking dream and speaks to his mother, and says she is pregnant with his sister. The way they did that scene in the new movie wasnt even close to promoting the same sense of mysticism and power from paul.
Sting in the role of the nasty , self confident villain was a the great example of a great game.. ❤❤ I like Oscar Isaak in the role of Leto , Rebecca Ferguson harmoniously fit into the role his wife Jessica.. 😊😊❤❤ Timothy showed his hero well , he is still young , impetuous , but extremely proud of his passing.. The viewer sees great potential end will not be deceived by further viewing.. ❤😊❤
Just left the movies seeing part 2 in IMAX! Can i say the best movie out! Acting was amazing! Visuals was outstanding! Like i hope we don’t have to wait another 3 more years for part 3
The new guy had such little screen time and was so lame. Imagine complaining your opponent was weakened like in Gladiator. Sting was the perfect evil and sick minded harkkonens
The 1984 version was really weird but it was the best. Because that's what made that movie. That weirdness that strange tone it had is what made the movie
Me too. I'm kind of fed up with everything looking so grey these days. It would be fine if there was different lighting based on location, but no. Every single location is all grey in big budget modern day films.
I find myself watching the top half the most. Loved the book and I know it’s not a true adaptation but it has so many memorable moments and the cast did and amazing job with the characters. I like how what Lynch was able to achieve with the worms, the narration by Paul and other characters works well, the set design and feudalism look to things (flying through I giant doorway in space). Father, the sleeper has awakened. I loved this movie
The sound design of the thumper was better in the original. In fact I would say the thumper sound is the biggest miss in this new version. Everything else amazing. Would be interested to hear if others thought the same on this.
Villenueve stated, “I was very excited when I learned that the book would be brought to the screen. I remember watching the movie and being very mesmerized and impressed by how David Lynch approached it. I was destabilized by some of his choices. Yeah, David Lynch has a very strong identity as a filmmaker, of course, and it bled into the - it’s a fantastic interpretation of the book. But there were some choices that were made that was very far away from my sensibility. I remember watching the movie thinking to myself, ‘Someday, someone else will do it again in the future. It will happen.’ Because I didn’t feel that he captured some of the essence of, specifically, the Fremen culture - I felt that there was some things that were missing. That’s the nature of adaptation, you know?”
@mannperson324 You just care about explosions and effects. The new Dune is a feast for the simple minded. The old Dune is too complicated for a modern audience with great casting, great acting, and great directing that you wouldn't be able to handle, as well as awesome effects for the time.
@@geekworthy7938 what are you even talking about? The writing in the new dune is fantastic, the visuals are naturally beautiful, but so is the sound design and the acting, you’re just a stuck up elitist pig making assumption because I disagree, give the iPad back to your mom💀
Exactly, you just put all my thoughts into words. I'd give stage drama, epic space opera, acting scenes any day than visually appealing movies. Movies not only for you to see but for you to hear and imagine as well
@@mannperson324lol don’t forget that there’s a significant amount of Dune fans that are the most pretentious of all sci Fi fans. It’s the ultimate opportunity to sip from a cup with a saucer with their pinky up and be condescending to all fans because they “were fans of Star Wars back when it was called Dune”
@@riveraharper8166Paul and Chani are that young in the book so idk what you expected. I haven’t been very impressed by their performances either but I’m just grateful that a decent adaptation is happening at all
The SciFi series got the Harkonnens right: venal, corrupt and hedonistic like late stage Romans. In this version they're all Uncle Fester if he joined the Borg.
totally agree, and they really toned down why the harkonnens were so nasty. they murdered a few people, and were cannibals? thats nothing compared to the book or 80s movie. def was trying to keep a pg13 rating
Current Dune is now *MY* Dune. Most of the characters looks and portrayals match my original minds eye when first reading the books (particularly Chani and Stilgar), eith the exception of The Emporer (seemed too weak), and Paul - I sm still yet to see my vision of Paul.
@@luizfelipemartins630This is why we can't trust fans to be critics. The new one is devoid of any emotional connection between characters. Rushed. Final battle 3.5 minutes like boiling an egg. No psychedelic journeys. Just read the book. Its a visually immersive beautiful movie, but it is a solid 7.5 as a true story teller of the book.
@@thebodyclock1 my man, all the critics, even who's not a fan is saying it's a materpiece, i watched the first knowing nothing about this world, and felt in love, being totally sensate about the aspects of cinematography. I'm sure about what i'm saying
Really wish the studio would have let Lynch make the movie he wanted to make. It's honestly insane how well put together everything is and how great it all still looks. It's a damn shame he couldn't tell the story how he wanted and basically walked away from it.
![Dune - Paul Muad'Dib vs Feyd Rautha [HD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LkaklDy2gbE/mqdefault.jpg)
Wish the '84 was made into two films. The pacing of the everything after Paul joins the fremen is too quick. The whole love story was done in a few lines of voice over.
And the whole sound wave gun thing was a strange change.
Extended Version Is On UTube
There is a extended version of the 84 movie.
The 2022 movie took scenes from it.
The extended cut is 3 hours long, there is much more in it.
Look for “Dune Spice Diver Cut.”
Funniest thing is having ginger to baldies as villain.
well they are soulless monsters. well except for ginger women lol they're a lot better than ok in my book
😂 but The new villains looks and feels more menacing though
Gingers and baldies cannot be trusted 😂
@@Actorvijayofficial_68 You clearly never met a genuine redhead before.
@@Cortesevasive💀💀
Watched Dune Part 2 for a second time today. It's a masterpiece.
I hope we get the complete saga
facts 🔥. saw it in imax last night. wanted to press replay 😂.
Villenueve is going to write the third part. Dune messiah. But it will his last one he said
Boring movie godzilla x kong is better
@@jpalias8880 try again troll :D
It was great. So visually stunning I missed things. I wanna go n see it again. Last movie I saw twice in theaters, The Matrix.
Sting always looked like he had so much fun playing that role…
Wouldn't you? I would😂
Too much I think
He made the movie look like a meme
I always thought the actor looked so much like Sting. Guess it was actually him.
I think he had too much fun LoL.
I love how (reasonably) faithful they're staying to the books and how much respect they have for the '84 film.
I respectfully disagree friend. I don't think it's reasonable faithful. I think it's fraudulent and don't think it should be called Dune. They changed too much. Makes me very upset.
I agree, Villeneuve's Dune confirm that even if Lynch was greatly ostacolated with making his Dune he made a really great movie anyway! Lynch in fact is an extraordinary director and many scenes and moods inspired Denis...
@@TooMuchToCareAbout2I haven’t read the books but I’m curious about what they changed and how different it is
@mdmatt2632 Some of the major changes are:
1. Alia (Paul's sister) is supposed to be born already, and she is the one who kills the Baron.
2. Paul and Chani have a child, Leto II, who is murdered by Harkonnen and is a major turning factor in Paul's decision.
3. Gurney almost kills Jessica because he thinks she is the traitor.
4. Feyd tries to cheat in the final duel with Paul. He is not honorable and should never have been depicted that way.
5. Chani loves and supports Paul, ALWAYS! She wouldn't be upset at the end when Paul married Irulan for the throne. Jessica was concubine, and so was Chani. Both love their men completely.
6. They almost completely left out the "weirding way" which is the fighting style that Paul and Jessica teach the Fremen.
7. Paul's prescience, his ability to see the future comes on gradually, first in dreams, then waking visions, until he takes the water of life and can literally see all possible futures and outcomes. This was highly nerfed in the films and not done well.
8. Entire political and social parties were completely left out.
That's just some that come to mind. There are a lot more. So many characters were either changed, sidelined, or left out completely. It's a terrible shame. The syfy series was soon much better in terms of storyline. Yes Dune II is a beautiful big budget movie but they didn't do the storyline the justice it deserves.
@@TooMuchToCareAbout2having a CGI toddler flailing around killing Harkonnens wouldve looked really stupid. Denis made the right changes for the big screen
"The witch must leave..." never gets old
“Bitch$s, leave!” Robocop
"The Bene Gesserit with must leave..." Get it right.
@@planomathandsciencethat's not the line from the movie
The thing must leave
@@planomathandscience lol the _with_ must leave? Buddy you gotta learn to proofread your comments.
1984 is a fever dream.
Fr 😂
2024 is a fever dream too. Just with more Hollywood tropes.
I watched it with my dad the day I saw Dune 2021 and I thought it was so weird
It's a Lynch film.
@@callumbiasnow4825 Looks amazing, I will say that much
I still have a soft spot for lynch 84, movie.... It was a mess....but with so much potential...visually stunning... and that soundtrack was outstanding....imo
i saw it so many times at christmas on TV, i still love it.
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I still prefer it to the new one
Even lynch hates himself for making such a shitty movie and yall still loving it 😅
@@ecebalyemez8743there are tons of artists that despise their work… while they are considered fantastic, and on the opposite lots of shitty things that are loved by their shitty creators
Dune part 2 was so good man can’t stop thinking about it
Austin was so good man
@@YourAverageCZcamsCommentor Agreed feyd-rautha is so cold
#Lis'al'gaib 😂
@@YourAverageCZcamsCommentorunrecognizable and honestly terrifying, I’m only disappointed that we see so little of his character
same! just watched in imax and im obsessed
Dune 2 will be the only movie I've ever paid a second time to go see.
I've never felt more involved in a story before.
Insanely good
Dune 2 is definitely the best movie that’s gonna release all year. It was incredible. My eyes were glued to the screen the whole time and it felt like a thriller. Even when Paul gains more power, it feels like something bad is happening. The music is amazibg
Digo o mesmo!
@@ProfJBResponde awesome
@@thataintfalco7106 I watched 1 again today. Now I really can't wait to see 2 again. Lol
It’s that good. I did not expect it. It’s just an amazing experience. Saw it in Dolby and watching it in IMAX next. I’m just in awe of what Denis V made.
Both versions are good, however I find the new version superior.
But to be fair, it was much harder to film such a visual spectacle in 1984
The visual is understandable I think, but the art and the acting, is disappointing, I like the new dune after I watched the old one, that shows how superior the new version is
The 1984 dune is a bad film. The book is better. It's better as a book.
I disagree, especially in a setting that’s in a fucking desert. The worms would have been harder but doable and practically so. Something like Star Wars with laser battles and all that trash would have been far more difficult but also already achieved by that point. If you lean on technology to make a great movie then it’s probably not a great movie.
@@Happin3essthe eternal obligatory “muh book” crowd everybody 😂
@@tomsnowden6201you don't realise how limited tech was in 84 and you're just yapping. It's cool, ignorance makes us say not so intelligent things sometimes.
"AHHHHHHHHHHHH!" - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, Dune 1984
Respect to Dune 84'
I’ve read all the Dune books and I’m keenly aware of the significant changes they made from the source material, but the costumes and the cast of the Lynch Dune are just SO FRICKING GOOD (except for one or two). There still has never been a better Gaius Helen Mohiam. Or Duke Leto or Lady Jessica. When I imagine the world of Dune while reading the books the stylistic choices of ‘84 Dune still color my imagination. I STILL have not one wit of a problem with all the inner monologuing. It simply works for the film if you’ve read Hebert’s incredibly verbose writing style that includes tons of inner dialogue that only you the reader are aware of. The set construction and costumes comes from seemingly another age when there was little or no special effects and everything was painstakingly crafted by the most gifted of artisans. It just comes from another era. And yes I LOVE the new Dune films - FINALLY some real ornithopters. I love the depiction of that twisted human made into the form of a spider on Geide Prime. They should have really run with that as a punishment for a Harkonnen rival because that so fits the vindictive cruelty of the Harkonnens. Oh and yes, I pronounce it Har-KO-nen.
I disagree regarding '84. The costumes WERE fantastic, but they were not otherworldly in any way. It was very 80s space fashion inspired and many things were very "Earthly".
But they were very well done.
The " Shani" of 1984 was so beautiful
Sean Young... ❤
So much more beautiful than Zendaya.
Nope.she wasnt.@@naveedclifton
zendaya is pretty gorgeous
Sempre preferi a princeza
@@matthewking3884 yes she was farrrr beautiful
I don’t know 🤷🏻♂️ I still love 84 film VERY much. It’s my youth’s favorite movie ❤️
Mine was the most uncomfortable and hard to watch. That baron scenes were ...
I think the old Dune looks so incredible!
The 4k Spicediver Edit of the old Dune here on YT is a pretty dang good movie..
Sting looks very charismatic and psycho!
I still think Sting is best cast for Feyd-Rautha, despite I don't really like the movies and the mini series. I still think Dune is unfilmable and still waiting to some director proving me wrong.
sting looks arrogant, entitled, ready to fight…. austin butler looks unhinged and murderous.
Sting was actually a hell of an actor despite just being a "rock star"
Which is why this version of Feyd is being measured against Sting's version. Sting set the standard.
@@grayfae3isn’t that the point? he was supposed to look freaky
I really liked the "weirding modules" and "killing words" and that Paul developed the ability to kill without the modules, from the 84 version.
Your name is a killing word. TOM.Tomtomotomtom!
@@bazookacat8421 I just died. 😂😂😂
“My name is a killing word.” That was chilling.
I liked the voice modules as a kid but when I grew up and read the book and understood what the weirding way really is I disliking the voice module stuff and a little sad they didn't represent it in the new one.
Was the killing word the one he used to rip apart feyd? Was it in the books? Because that was cringe
The 1984 version is still super entertaining. Definitely flawed, but had sooo much potential to be great.
There is longer cut on yt that i heard is far better than Cinema version
Not ashamed, loved the 1984 version of Dune
read the book...the 84 version sucked but sting was good. wished he had killed Paul.
@@TR-mg1eq You read the book! In facet I read the books after 84 one. How many of you read the books after the noew one!
Carbon copying lines are not making the movie better!
The new one is overrated! And it stole scenes from the 84 extended version.
What? You cry for weirding way? Technicality.
Overrated actors like Zendaya, Florence Poo and that wet cigarette man Timothy.
At least you can picture Kyle Maclachlan to defeat Sting. Timothy couldn't defeat his own granny!
@@riveraharper8166Go home. You're drunk.
@@riveraharper8166 The ending in Lynch's version is one of the worst endings in cinema history. Paul IS NOT a messiah, he is a FAKE ONE, but in Lynch's version it happens to be that Paul is a REAL messiah, an entity choose him, it rains over Arrakis and the planet will become a green planet, which is the opposite of the meaning of the book's, Paul is the definition of a newborn tirant and Lynch makes him a real messiah? It's the worst idea and an insult for the original story. If you have any problem with the cast of the film is your problem.
@@andresramirez13 1. Let's see how this one handle that!
2. You think a single movie can show everything from the vast knowledge of the books?
If you can't understand that's YOUR problem!
David Lynch got the shaft. His dream film didn’t happen. What we got was still awesome.
1984 even the soundtrack was epic
Better
@@paulharris7660never
@@paulharris7660it was a horrible adaptation and an embarrassment to Dune. Why would anyone say it’s better? That is literally insane.
It's bad, but it has style @@prodigypickle8049
@@prodigypickle8049the soundtrack is awesome
Sting as a Feyd is genius!
Yep!!!
@Anthony-qj7qe to me, the only line I even remember out of this adaptation is when I, myself, said i WILL kill him.
Even the dialogue is banal. Wtf did they do to this story?
Virginia Madsen was stunning in the original Dune. So was Sean Young. I am happy we have the 1984 version in 4K along with these superior new dune movies! Great time to be a dune fan!
84 intro alone was better Than anything Floo Poo dished out.
Virginias voice: real princess
Florence voice: waitress after a 10 hour shift and 3 cigs.
@@riveraharper8166The voice is supposed to be intimidating. You’re just an old geezer that just hates new shit. Dune 84 was so bad and wasn’t even adapted from the books correctly. Also the intro was really cringe to watch
dune 1984 looking amazing, as always
It got a lot of things wrong - including some big, important things - but Dune 1984 will always look fantastic. Costumes, makeup, creature designs, vfx - all great even by modern standards
ABSOLUTELY, I’ve read all the Dune books and I’m keenly aware of the significant changes they made from the source material, but the costumes and the cast are just SO FRICKING GOOD (except for one or two). There still has never been a better Gaius Helen Mohiam. Or Duke Leto or Lady Jessica. When I imagine the world of Dune while reading the books the stylistic choices of ‘84 Dune still color my imagination. I STILL have not one wit of a problem with all the inner monologuing. It simply works for the film if you’ve read Hebert’s incredibly verbose writing style that includes tons of inner dialogue that only you the reader are aware of. The set construction and costumes comes from seemingly another age when there was little or no special effects and everything was painstakingly crafted by the most gifted of artisans. It just comes from another era. And yes I LOVE the new Dune films - FINALLY some real ornithopters. I love the depiction of that twisted human made into the form of a spider on Geide Prime. They should have really run with that as a punishment for a Harkonnen rival because that so fits the vindictive cruelty of the Harkonnens. Oh and yes, I pronounce it Har-KO-nen.
Просто шедевр!Мне новая не так нравится
Loved the original Dune.
yeah its dogshit
Dune 84 is bad. It was bad before 2021 and it looked a whole lot worse after 2021😂😂😂
@@cheapbruh9778 It ain't for everybody. 🤷🏽♂️
@@empyrean-jamelgreaves8034 Opinions vary.
@@kanoreese1253 I respect it. I own it on physical and in digital on two different sites.
But I view it more as a guilty pleasure. Villeneuve's adaptation for me is Herbert's world fully realised.
ugh soooooo good just watched on imax. wish it was an hour longer. havent seen a movie that good in so long
The new Feyed in the fight scene reminds me of the night walkers in I Am Legend.
Yes he did!
Grew up watching the 1984 David Lynch adaptation & watching it led to me picking up the books. Love both the Lynch adaptation & the new films by Denis Villeneave.
The Sci-Fi Channel miniseries adaptations also deserve recognition & love.
Props to the graphic designer who made the new title. Such a simple yet brilliant idea ❤
The Lady Jessica was scary
I like both. Appreciate both films. 80’s with limited special effects but good acting. Present with cgi and exceptional story roll out.
good acting? Did we watch the same movie? :///
They both have their strengths and weaknesses. I definitely think the original had the most awesome cast even though Paul and Chani were too old.
@matejkamar325
Yeah We did.
Virginias Dune intro alone is better Than anything what Florence can dish out. Flo voice is not a princess but a waitress after a shift
Zendaya brought her 1 face: irritated bored cow face.
Chalamet is sooo charismatic and intimidating that I question he can defeat her own granny ín a knife fight. Not tó mention feyd.
While I like Brolin Patrick Stewart is just good ín every sci-fi.
The only ones who brought a different and interesting approch are Ferguson and Skarsgard.
@beherih511 old?
Kyle Maclachan was 25.
Chalamet is 28.
Sean Young was also 25.
Zendaya is 27.
@@riveraharper8166 I agree with Zendaya. The rest is...well it is about taste and opinion i guess
How did actors look so damn majestic in the 80s !??
They didn’t.
I think the music is adding to it. Bc I don't think they were. Different time
Nah.
Majestic 😂 they look pretty rough ngl.
Right !
80 has Sting 😂😂
Another reason it was so terrible.
The original DUNE 1984 was the best! The sound track was incredible, the Weirding Modules were bad ass, and the beautiful actress Sean Young.
These comparisons make the 84 film look all the better. What I will say is at least their stillsuit discipline has improved, even if it is still shocking
Be honest , visual effects in 84’s Dune looks so cool 😎
That's true. The worm looks quite impressive.
Лучше чем сейчас как и все фильмф того мы ремени
Nothing better then the original, everything is just copy and paste nowadays, disappointing
@@nataliew1560the new film is a milliontimes better
For that time
Seldom does a re-make of such an iconic movie series overshadow the original. But this...THIS recent iteration of Dune was in the most literal sense, an unimaginable innovative improvement on all levels, from the original. It was for lack of a better word, "breathtaking."
I cannot wait for part 3, to further re-write cinematic history!
incomparable to the original of course. Absolutely untouchable. But to add i really admire the deep effort and greatness put into the new franchise hats off
there is no original versions, there is david lynch version and denis villeneuve version, and denis version to me is the best
When you realize that Feyd and Paul are played by older men compared to their character counterparts in both versions.
Chalamet is 28.
Kyle Maclachan was 25.
lol it's almost like Dune 1984 is watching the new Dune and can't believe what it's seeing! 👀
It's a real shame that David Lynch's Dune was such a nightmare for him to make and i can appreciate both movies but the new Dune is just such a better experience!
@@CinephileSanityTVmaybe a better experience, not a better movie.
@@eddievangundy4510
That's clearly what I said and it's obviously a matter of an opinion you goon!
@eddievangundy4510
I would say the new version is only better in some of the VFX. That's it.
@@eddievangundy4510go watch Dune part 2 in cinema and tell me its not as good as some crap from the 80s I'll wait
I cannot wait for the new Dune 2! "Nothing fancy"
the music is awesome 🎉🎉
This was GENUINELY the best film I’ve ever seen. I saw it in Dolby DFX and it felt like I was THERE
Saw it in imax and felt everything
@@grandmacat406 I saw it while high on weed. I was there 😎👍
I cannot overstate how happy i am that they redesigned the Harkonen
Into what exactly? Bland concept art, nothing more. If they were done 10 years ago, people would cry eww bad cgi, but now this is considered an artistic choice.
The previous versions had zero budget, but at least they had vision and iconic, crazy designs and not just hue hue hue what about black clothes and white featureless faces? huehuehue that looks eeeevviill hahaha xD
The movie isn't bad or boring, just absolutely bland and forgettable compared to the low budget, legit terrible 80s movie and TV shows. nobody will talk about this Dune in 5 years
@@Matt..S I will
@@Terra_Incognita115 More power to you. Enjoy things you want to enjoy.
@@Matt..Sthey may be a Little bland But they are Miles better than What ever we saw in the 1984 Version
@@Oswald-xy3tr No. And I absolutely hated the original film. But it is much more "it" and a statement. it has its own look, like Lord of the Rings has, like Star Wars has, Pirates of the Caribbean, nuDune has no character to itself. Upscale and redo with CGI some of the old movie's scenes, with the same look, just better quality, and it is much more interesting and iconic
Perfectly syncd "AAAAHHHH" 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for saying so. Got a bigger project on the way - stay tuned
Enjoyed the new version but wouldn't ever watch it a second time. I've watched the old version many many times, and will probably watch it again soon. Less spectacle, but fantastic story-telling.
Classic
1984 rocks
No it doesn’t.
@@johnmarkjames5447 whell, for your generation it doesnt ..its ok
@@user-hp8lc2or7n I don't think its a generational thing. 84 completely diverges from the source material. Even Lynch himself disowned it.
@@johnmarkjames5447 some times every one is thinking about his mistakes.But its a masterpiece still.V.dGough denied his pieces but we are still amazed
It was a horrible, shitty movie and an embarrassment to Dune. Why do people like the 1984 version? It’s baffling.
That score is amazing
Best dune 84
'84 holds up so well! Amazing!
I still think the sci-fi channel Miniseries was the goat so far even if the effects aren't the best.
Same. It’s the best adaptation of the book
There was a miniseries? Didn't have any idea.
@@lautarovazquez3193 yup from the sci-fi channel in the early 2000s. They did Dune, and another miniseries that covered Dune Messiah and Children of Dune.
@@kingofgames1220 nice, have to check it out, do you know if it is on any platform?
Definitely has its qualities. I still like that Chani better here than the other adaptations if I had my pick.
The 1984 movie is more directly pulled from the book, even utilizing inner monologue which is no easy task ti translate into a movie. But I think the newer versions are more practical looking in design.
The books are whacky as hell in environment but are very serious in tone. Both these movies are definitely products of their time and how sci-fi was viewed in that era.
It’s not a good take to use inner monologue. It’s a bad idea here bc they didn’t know how to represent ideas with the tools of visualization. That’s what is this movie about. Cinema is not a book. It’s picture in motion. So they have very different interpretations and tools for that. Lord of the Rings understands the assignment here. The new Dune movie too.
@@nazimelmardii disagree, the scenes of their inner thoughts as whispers are extremely powerful to me in a way i found the new movies lacking. The way you stare into the eyes of the actor and listen to their thoughts is amazing. Like when paul has his waking dream and speaks to his mother, and says she is pregnant with his sister. The way they did that scene in the new movie wasnt even close to promoting the same sense of mysticism and power from paul.
Has anyone here read the book?
@@ShandeDandy me.
@@FatCatProductions I meant in the reply section
harkonnens went from weird gingers to weird baldies
Dune 1984 so awesome
Лучше чем новая
@@Goladrielkinno
@@ShandeDandy new dune for hipsters
New Dune prolly more popular on Tiktok. :P
Anyone read the book except me??
I appreciate all of the Dune adaptations (1984, Sci-Fi version, Villeneuve). I still listen to Inama Nushif. I'm glad Jodorowsky didn't get his way.
Funny how you immediately know when something’s a masterpiece. You’re like yeah I’m still gonna be thinking about this movie in 10 years
'84 classic
'24 the making of an iconic
'24 crap
@@russellthompson9271agreed
@@russellthompson9271lol whatever you say loser
@@russellthompson9271terrible take
Sting in the role of the nasty , self confident villain was a the great example of a great game.. ❤❤ I like Oscar Isaak in the role of Leto , Rebecca Ferguson harmoniously fit into the role his wife Jessica.. 😊😊❤❤ Timothy showed his hero well , he is still young , impetuous , but extremely proud of his passing.. The viewer sees great potential end will not be deceived by further viewing.. ❤😊❤
Just left the movies seeing part 2 in IMAX! Can i say the best movie out! Acting was amazing! Visuals was outstanding! Like i hope we don’t have to wait another 3 more years for part 3
Denis making another sci fi movie next, so we probably got at least 3 years 😭
I still love the first one
yeah its dogshit
U must be ancient
@@mxkaqz I am. I forget all old things are shit 😆
@@Saint_Vincent1735me too
@@mxkaqz I would rather be around in the magical decade of the 80's than your crappy boring modern decade! 😂
I'm gonna miss sting as Feyd Rautha
Yup. Same here
The new guy had such little screen time and was so lame. Imagine complaining your opponent was weakened like in Gladiator. Sting was the perfect evil and sick minded harkkonens
The 1984 version was really weird but it was the best. Because that's what made that movie. That weirdness that strange tone it had is what made the movie
Yes and totally lost in the new one, too clean, just a scifi adventure from Hollywood
@@thebodyclock1it’s extremely weird though, and not clean at all?
^ he’s talking complete nonsense. I just finished watching it myself alone. It was fucking phenomenal.
I just like the color palette of the 84 version Better. Villeneuve likes his grey brutalist look a bit too much.
Me too. I'm kind of fed up with everything looking so grey these days. It would be fine if there was different lighting based on location, but no. Every single location is all grey in big budget modern day films.
This makes me want to watch the original one now
Soundtrack is beyond words so amazing and both comparisons is unremarkable to see such great movies I really can’t wait for part 2.
Feyd looks so fantastic in the new film. Flawless and beautiful in the Harkonnen way.
Wow, that’s got to Sting.
I find myself watching the top half the most. Loved the book and I know it’s not a true adaptation but it has so many memorable moments and the cast did and amazing job with the characters. I like how what Lynch was able to achieve with the worms, the narration by Paul and other characters works well, the set design and feudalism look to things (flying through I giant doorway in space). Father, the sleeper has awakened. I loved this movie
Watched the first dune 8 times the second will only be once.
I bet you take that back lol. The second one was incredible. I just finished it.
The sound design of the thumper was better in the original. In fact I would say the thumper sound is the biggest miss in this new version. Everything else amazing.
Would be interested to hear if others thought the same on this.
agreed , that and the 'harkinin' pronounication , harKOnen
Nah
Stop being edgy
I gotta say it, watching a story about people who live in a massive super desert and then them being pale as paper takes me out of it 😂
Cartman in the background: “ALLLL DAAAYYY COOKIE DOUGHHHHH”
My God the shovel they had for sand riding is too funny.
Austin Butler as Feyd Rautha kicked the whole 1984 version in the ass
The old one looks more luxurious and futuristic then the new one lol
Agree.
you guys gotta be trolling, right? or did we not watch the same movies?
the new one is very minimalistic, old one is so decadent
Its looked cheap. The freemen dont look like they spent their life in the desert. They look too clean, too beautiful, too groomed.
@@Ploopljkklnbvyujvk9yoit literally doesn’t though💀
Villenueve stated, “I was very excited when I learned that the book would be brought to the screen. I remember watching the movie and being very mesmerized and impressed by how David Lynch approached it. I was destabilized by some of his choices. Yeah, David Lynch has a very strong identity as a filmmaker, of course, and it bled into the - it’s a fantastic interpretation of the book. But there were some choices that were made that was very far away from my sensibility. I remember watching the movie thinking to myself, ‘Someday, someone else will do it again in the future. It will happen.’ Because I didn’t feel that he captured some of the essence of, specifically, the Fremen culture - I felt that there was some things that were missing. That’s the nature of adaptation, you know?”
Damn those firemen and their profound desire to stand in one line
I wish I could see a full screen version of this, it's awesome!
I love lynch❤❤
Дюна Вильнёва - произведение искусства ❤
“Be simple, be direct, be…INVINCIBLE”
That 80s version is AWESOME! When did they forget how to make such great movies?
The new movies are bigger and better though? There’s fantastic movies coming out every year?
@mannperson324 You just care about explosions and effects. The new Dune is a feast for the simple minded. The old Dune is too complicated for a modern audience with great casting, great acting, and great directing that you wouldn't be able to handle, as well as awesome effects for the time.
@@geekworthy7938 what are you even talking about? The writing in the new dune is fantastic, the visuals are naturally beautiful, but so is the sound design and the acting, you’re just a stuck up elitist pig making assumption because I disagree, give the iPad back to your mom💀
Exactly, you just put all my thoughts into words. I'd give stage drama, epic space opera, acting scenes any day than visually appealing movies. Movies not only for you to see but for you to hear and imagine as well
@@mannperson324lol don’t forget that there’s a significant amount of Dune fans that are the most pretentious of all sci Fi fans.
It’s the ultimate opportunity to sip from a cup with a saucer with their pinky up and be condescending to all fans because they “were fans of Star Wars back when it was called Dune”
1984 version is still the best!❤
Princess Irulan: absolute Goddamn dime piece in every adaptation. The more things change the more they stay the same
The guy that played Paul in OG is that one guy from Twin Peaks
Never understood the big criticism to the 84 movie. It made me read the books.
Have you guys read the books after the new one...?
I did, actually
@@dimaudalow Kudos 4 u!
Yeah, I did. The new movie is fantastic.
@@andrewferreira6823 meh. Zendaya, Flo Poop, Timothy wet cigarette man is overrated. Made for genZ tiktokers.
@@riveraharper8166Paul and Chani are that young in the book so idk what you expected. I haven’t been very impressed by their performances either but I’m just grateful that a decent adaptation is happening at all
The SciFi series got the Harkonnens right: venal, corrupt and hedonistic like late stage Romans. In this version they're all Uncle Fester if he joined the Borg.
😂😂😂
totally agree, and they really toned down why the harkonnens were so nasty. they murdered a few people, and were cannibals? thats nothing compared to the book or 80s movie. def was trying to keep a pg13 rating
:D yep
Current Dune is now *MY* Dune. Most of the characters looks and portrayals match my original minds eye when first reading the books (particularly Chani and Stilgar), eith the exception of The Emporer (seemed too weak), and Paul - I sm still yet to see my vision of Paul.
yeah real elvish beauty right there with chani
I like how it was such a big deal for Paul to ride the Alaskan bullworm, but then his pregnant mom is riding one and just chillin'
and how did they put everyone and the basket carriage on it? can they stop them somehow?
The 1984 extended 3 hour version is far superior
You mean better than this of 2024? Man, this actual version is better in all the senses
@@luizfelipemartins630The current movie does not contribute anything new, it is a copy paste of the one from '84
@@ricauldron5860 I don't believe you say it, this new one is a masterpiece in all the senses
@@luizfelipemartins630This is why we can't trust fans to be critics. The new one is devoid of any emotional connection between characters. Rushed. Final battle 3.5 minutes like boiling an egg. No psychedelic journeys. Just read the book. Its a visually immersive beautiful movie, but it is a solid 7.5 as a true story teller of the book.
@@thebodyclock1 my man, all the critics, even who's not a fan is saying it's a materpiece, i watched the first knowing nothing about this world, and felt in love, being totally sensate about the aspects of cinematography. I'm sure about what i'm saying
Desert Color on the original 🎯🔥
Virginia Madsen was beautiful as Irulan
I love the 1984 Dune and I also really liked the new movie, but I’m really not a fan of the design of the Harkonnens, especially the new Feyd
Sting from the original looks far more menacing. New guy looks like he came out a cadburys egg commercial
Year I was born. This film was made.
Really wish the studio would have let Lynch make the movie he wanted to make. It's honestly insane how well put together everything is and how great it all still looks. It's a damn shame he couldn't tell the story how he wanted and basically walked away from it.
God, the remake was so good. The old movies definitely had their charm but THIS is the REAL Dune.
Its not how Jodorowsky dreamt is so its not the REAL Dune but still a fucking awesome movie.
No
@@russellthompson9271stay mad loser
Lynch’s Dune looks way more interesting and compelling.