China Tools Ep. 10, Amazing tool for its price!
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2020
- In depth reviews of China woodworking tools.
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In this video:
Cabinet drill guide template
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Drillpro KRE-R1 Corner router Jig
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With this code you get this product for $ 45 instead of $ 53,-
In this video a mention a few links:
- Link for downloading workbench plan!
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- link with video about H.O.W. zero clearance insert
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The product from this review was sent to me by Banggood for testing.
This does not mean that I do get all my products. I review also a lot of products I bought myself.
I started these reviews because from my experience not every tool from China was worth buying. So I wanted to make in-depth reviews to show you which products you should consider and which product you better leave alone. The fact that banggood sent me products occasionally does not change the way I make my reviews. I still give in-depth reviews and give you my honest opinion!
On this, you can count on!
I have a lot of woodworking tools from China. I bought them all on Banggood.com. But you can buy them probably also from sites like alibaba.com, Aliexpress.com and Ebay.com
I have a good experience with Banggood.com and they have a lot of woodworking tools nicely organized on their site.
My name is Dennis and I am from Hooked on Wood.
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WEF 1 Sep 20, the coupon has expired. But the router jib was marked down to $47.64 AUD - for anyone who may be interested.
Dennis - episodes 10 and 11 do not show up in your play list for the China tools. The playlist jumps from episode 9 to episode 12. Excellent series!!
Now 23,95 €!
Two years later it’s about 42€ (delivered to Europe from CN). Nice.
I noticed one consistent thing. Your shop and tools are so neat and tight.
I would love to see a video about your process and thoughts on organizing and cleaning.
One day I would like mine to look like yours 🙏
I’m excited for the workbench build. I’ve been hoping you would rebuild and film. I want to build one for my shop.
Very nice video, as always, Dennis! I'm always impressed by your gentle manners and calm while talking and explaining.
Thank you. For the corner jig, I got a huge one with 13 templates and can clamp it to the corner and use a full size hand router. I believe it is a woodpecker clone and it’s the best I have seen. It beats these two hands down.
Nice to have an honest review of these tools, I have purchased a couple and have not been disapointed.
Been waiting for the workbench build!!! I would love to make one. Keep up the good work!!
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Super interesting intro of what is coming.
Really like the focus you give to every small detail of the products! Looking forward to the next ones and your future projects.
Just got the cabinet measuring system. Fantastic quality, and I see many other uses for it. Really enjoy your content. Thank you.
You have the most beautiful reviews. Concise, careful, thoughtful. Wonderful stuff. I've just found your channel and I'm going to try one or two tools. Thanks for doing this.
I purchased the drawer handle tool after watching your review and I am very pleased with it. Thanks for doing your China tools series and you're HoW channel is brilliant.
Wederom een zeer goede review ,met de juiste nadruk op de "details" waar het om gaat !
Bedankt ,en ik kijk nu al uit naar je volgende video 😄
Great tool reviews and shop project ideas all done with professional video production- thanks! I definitely want to build your workbench... very happy you’re starting on the plans. Thanks
Always enjoy your videos, Hope to see your work bench videos soon. Your videos caused me to buy the Kerf Maker. Keep up the good work!
Love the China Tools videos, but really looking forward to the workbench build.
So interesting and entertaining as usual. Thank you so much.
Thanks again for a very thorough review. Keep up the good work!
zoal iedere keer weer goede info en ben nu al benieuwd naar de aflevering van je nieuwe werkbank.
I just came across your channel - very nice! Well spoken, filmed and edited. Good job, thumbs up and subscribed!
Hey Denis, we begonnen je al te missen man!!, leuk weer filmpje te mogen zien, en bedankt voor de correcte review 👍👍
Mr Dannis, you have done nice work, I like your work table and also I like your
hard work, you are working with honesty
which is very very valuable for me, I will
always pray for you, thankyou for this wonderful video and Excellent information
Another great informative video. Thanks for sharing!
Your side table is beautiful! Very nice design.
Great as always. The cabinet drawer guide. Would it be possible to use it to accurately set drawer slides or shelf positions? Would it be possible to use another but longer ruler in the guide because then it becomes a story stick.
Cheers
Those pins allow you to flip the jig over and place it on top of your workpiece. This way you can use a handheld router to round over the corners on something that is too big for your router table. I just used this technique to round over the edges of a countertop. Because the jig is so much larger there is plenty of room to clamp it down and not interfere with the router base plate.
Thanks for adding this information
Another great review. Thanks
Fantastic testing and review, dude!
I bought lots of products from Drillpro on Banggood and love it.
Stay safe there! 🖖😊
Great review was going to get some cabinet jig since I have those plastic one in my local shop, but now I'm considering getting the metal one.
This thing is really awesome! I still like it very much.
Dennis
Bedankt voor de handleiding, goede review man, als ik wist dat je tafel te koop was had ik hem zeker gekocht.
Succes nog.
Gr Danny uit Leeuwarden
Mooi product en ik kijk naar de toekomstige videos uit!
MY first opinion : You have a very safe way of working with machines .
I know that you don't like posting content on furniture making and focus more on the shop improvements, but I would love to see the process you went through making this rustic side table - it looks like a great piece, with very interesting finish, and it's something that's not easy to come by on youtube. I'm sure a lot of it depends on the piece of wood you have in your hands, but still, it would be amazing to see the techniques and approach you used, especially on surface prep and finishing. Love your content btw, your channel is in my top 3 list for shop furniture / improvements / jigs and tool reviews. You're doing a great job, hats off to you.
Always good videos! Congratulations Dennis. Say hallo to Brazil. You have a big fan here
Hello Brazil 😀 😃 😄
Great video!!
Bello Dennis. I am sure I am not alone in saying “ We missed your reviews”. Nice to see you back on site. Because of your reviews I have purchased two items off your site. The drill indexing guide and the kerf maker. Both excellent products and excellent buys. Price/fit/finish/quality and usability
I did not buy your last product review item because you yourself were not all in on this item-the bench dog clamps. However i have purchased a very high quality duplicate. Lee valley-Veritas. Wonder dog clamp. This is 100% metal. No plastic anywhere and is an excellent product. Not sure if they do any marketing over there in the Netherlands but all of their lee valley/veritas tools are good quality. You cannot go wrong. Now of course they cannot compete in price and if that is the only thing that matters then they lose out. However in every other area they are top notch. Their prices are comparAble to any other well made German. American. Canadian or European tools in general. I think they are well worth you time to check out their website. Lee valley tools. Please do not consider anything that I have said here as any negativism against the china tools you feature. I lobe the two I have and if I had a need I def would purchase the drawer guides that you featured today
Stay healthy over there. Harleymike/chicago
Hi Michael,
Thanks for your suggestion. I have a smaller one from Veritas but I just find out the bigger one and that looks very nice. Looks like a good choice. It definitely looks better!
Nice to hear from you!
Dennis
Hi Dennis! I'm fairly new to woodworking but now starting to find the need for different tools and various jigs for making things a little easier- more importantly... precise, accurate, and efficient. Unfortunately these things cost a lot of money as I'm learning woodworking in whole is quite expensive.
I barely came across your channel yesterday and I binge watched all your China tool videos and now starting on the others Lol. I'm hooked! Definitely subscribed!👍
You're a blessing for those in my situation (I'm sure for any woodworker - DIY'er & Professional) in the beginning stages of the craft and looking to expand our tool arsenal.
Having a non biased honest and thorough understanding of something before buying is a tremendous help! (especially considering how expensive it all can be) I know these videos are not easy to make. They take a lot of time, effort, and energy among so much more... Especially when producing QUALITY content such as you're.
Fantastic overall video quality. Highly enjoyable. Great design/concept, visuals, editing, animation, presentation, and delivery (your English is good and definitely improving with each video)
I can't begin to express how much I appreciate you! 🙏 So thank you for sharing and providing your videos.
BTW... Your little guy is absolutely adorable! Definitely should be in a commercial on television. 👌
Wow Eric, your comment mean a lot to me. Yes, it cost a lot of time, especially if you are a person like me who is not that easy satisfied with the results. I make it myself to hard some times. But I only can enjoy it if I improved myself evrytime a little bit. So, that is definitely not the easy way. With this attitude comes doubt if it is worth all the time and efforts. Comments like yours really help me to keep motivated. Thanks for your time you took to write this comment. Highly appreciate it. Dennis
Can you pls make a video on how you made your dust extraction system?
Thank you for another enjoyable video. I like how you walk through not just the features of these tools, but how they perform in real life. I also appreciate you pointing out the little things to watch out for, like the pins on the bottom of the router template plate coming loose. I had my eye on that template as well, and if I end up buying it, I'll probably use a thread locking product like Loctite on those pins to keep them in place. Wanted to ask if you found the alignment of those pins to be perfectly square so it registers against your workpiece securely.
Hi Walter,
Yes the alignment is good and if feels secure. During my review the price was about 45-50 dollars. But I see them later around 35 dollars. So, if they are much more expansive than 35 dollars, perhaps you should wait till the right time.
Bought the cabinet template based on your review, hope the link gave you a royalty. Thank you, and yes the build quality is impressive, as is the kerf guide you reviewed earlier
Thanks Andrew. Glad you like it.
good evening......................i have purchased a lot of tools of banggood with your recommendation and found them absolutely fantastic well done your honest and full of useful information thank you
Thanks Anthony
Love this series on China Tools, please consider reviewing: ES-5 Aluminum Alloy Multifunction Woodworking Scribing Ruler 3D Miter Angle Marking T Ruler Square Layout 45/90 Degree Measuring Ruler - Blue.
Hi Bill,
I got this product from Banggood lately, so I will review this in the future. Thanks for your suggestion!
Can you tell me is this Jig square? Some of the cheaper ones loose square especially as you increase the distance between drill points. The cabinet hardware jig, that is.
I like it .. you give a good and fair product review.. thank you .. groetjes M
I purchaed the Drillpro KRE-R1 Corner router Jig, a few weeks ago now. and my only question is... Can you get more discs for it, to expand the radious' that it can preform? Thank you, I'm loving this series. I do have quite a few china tools now all purchased from banggood to the UK. I paid £22.84 for it. but it's currently on offer.
love your videos just wish I had the same luck you did with the website you got any for about $120 right now
Hi Dennis, great video. I have the jig for locating drawer handles and have used it on a number of kitchens. It is a fantastic product. My only complaint about it is that on the pieces with only 1 screw they can come loose after drilling many holes. I have found that it is best to check that they are tight after every 2 or 3 holes. It would be better if there were 2 screws like there are holding the center piece to the ruler.
On the corner radius jig you could put some loctite on the threads of the screws and this would glue them in place. Since they are locating pins there is no need to be able to remove them so gluing in place would be a good option I think.
I’m looking forward to seeing the workbench video. I’ll be building one for myself soon, so I think I will wait until then to get some ideas.
Good point Ned, thanks for adding that information!
Dennis
I do like some of these products. In my case, however, I found the cabinet handle drill guide to have a flaw I have yet to fix.
I found that there is an issue with the stainless steel ruler not being square to the vertical piece. So what happens is that if you attach the top stop piece and hook it onto say a piece of wood and draw a line along the stainless ruler I found the line to not be parallel with the top reference edge. In fact if you take a simple small accurate machinist square you will find the stainless steel ruler is not square with the vertical piece it slides into. Of course this will greatly affect the location of the holes in a drawer front especially if they are far apart...such as 7-8 inches. There can be as much as a 16th of an inch different which is still somewhat noticeable if you have horizontal references on a drawer front. Is this common or did I just get a lemon??
I can't help but get a sense that you are suffering from a little bit of a OCD? I'd think that's why I subbed lol! Keep up the informative contents and thanks for sharing! May you and your family be safe from these difficult times!
Ive been looking at the precision mitre guages they have on Banggood have you any experience with any of them ? I very much enjoy watchiing all your videos and tool reveiws , any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks
You are lucky 😀😀 czcams.com/video/0zMnY3ZKsZI/video.html
Very good.
Looking forward to your new bench build. Just curious, will you drill 19mm or 20 mm holes in it for the dogs? I am planning to build a bench but not sure which size you should use.
Hi, I use 20mm, But that is because I use the Parf Guide system and that came with 20mm holes. I can not say, one is better of the other. Just look at the accessories you want to use and if they are in 19 or 20mm and choose the one with most fit your needs.
Dennis
Enjoyed the review, liked and sub'd.
Keep up the good work. The reviews are great and as soon as I've built my workshop I'll be buying the jigs.
I also look forward to your workbench build video. The preview in this video got me excited.
I know you might have answered this many times before but can I ask how big your workshop is?
Thank you.
Daniel Garcia Rodriguez I was just thinking his same thing!
Excellent videos, very enjoyable 👍👍
Hi Daniel,
My workshop is 6.5 meter x 3.5 meter. I think I will put a frequently asked question on my site. For this question I can make a drawing of my shop including measurements.
Dennis
@@HookedonWood that is great. Thank you for your quick reply. I was thinking of building mine approx 5 m by 3.5 m. My garden is a bit busy so limited space,and my wife will put up a fight if I make it bigger... Lol
I will go and check out your website as well.
Thanks again.
Put a O ring between bolt/pin then tighten them they won’t come lose
I found the corner router jig being of different use i.e. if you have a router table it works fine but when you have top router then the other jig bits do better job
I agree, the smaller one are more handy to clamp for hand held router.
Awesome. But your video's are ALL great. Not to mention that precious little boy. You are blessed kind Sir. May Jesus bless you and yours always.
Hi Pat,
Nice to hear from you again, and thanks for your kind words.
Best for you!
Dennis
Hi Denis, do you have a "M5 center punch tool" like this to recommend ? Thanks.
Hi Aur, NO, I have one that came delivered within a set. That still works and I do not have another one. Sorry
@@HookedonWood OK, thanks anyway ;-)
What is the dry lubricant you use?
That is Silber gleit : www.amazon.de/-/nl/dp/B00691ZM84/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=silbergleit&qid=1610879926&sr=8-1
Отличные вещи)Разбогатею,тоже куплю))
Dank je wel voor deze reviews. Ik begin net met het spelen met hout, en dit soort dingen houd het betaalbaar. Al ben ik nog lang niet ver genoeg voor dit soort dingen. Heb nog veel tools nodig. En mn skills nu zijn net iets boven een 12 jarige die voor het eerst handvaardigheid heeft, maar "i'm enjoying myself."
Bedankt voor je reactie. Je hebt de kern te pakken ;-) dat is een goed begin.
Hi Dennis,
Loving you videos from all the way down under in Australia.
Really like your China tools reviews I've had my cart loaded up so many times only to back out, think i'll plunge for the engineers square you reviewed recently
Looking forward to you table build it looks awesome, Is that black MDF?
What part off the Netherlands are you from? I lived in Rotterdam for nearly 10 years and loved it
Hi Martin,
Thanks for your comment. I still like the engineer squares very much. I use them on a regular basis. I think you can not go wrong with them.
The MDF is full-colored MDF. It is easy to buy in the Netherlands. But I understand it is harder to get outside the Netherlands. I do not know why. I come from Noord Brabant. That is 1 hour from Rotterdam. Nice to hear from you!
Nice area, i worked in Etten Leur for 6 months, loved Breda !!. Keep the video's going i love watching them, wife thinks i'm mental !!
@@martinfaulkner3830 Breda is indeed very nice.
Great reviews. For the router jig, you made a design change recommendation at 9:27 but gave it a design score of 5/5 at 12:59. Can you elaborate on that?
It is always difficult to make this scoring card. For me the most important is, that I show the product so, viewers can decide if it is something for them. Besides it is a small point. It should not change your decision based on that point.
Dag Dennis,
Ik ben erg blij met de tekeningen van de werkbank die je op je site hebt gezet.
Ik wacht met spanning op je bouwvideo, maar begin ondertussen vast aan het onderstel.
Wat je reviews van (Banggood) China tools betreft, ik ben er blij mee. Een aantal artikelen heb ik inmiddels gekocht/ in huis.
Van deze review heb ik, via je link, het hulpgereedschap voor de handgrepen besteld.
De losse radiussen die je ook aanstipt had ik al n.a.v. een eerdere review (tools nr. 8) besteld. Daar houd ik het voorlopig maar bij.
Ik moet bekennen dat ik eerst wat huiverig tegenover het kopen in China aankeek, maar ik begrijp nu waarom je er zo enthousiast over bent.
De levertijden zijn lang, veel langer dan ik gewend ben, maar de kwaliteit van de spullen en de klantenservice zijn erg goed.
Een artikel dat tijdens de verzending uit de verpakking is verdwenen werd zonder veel problemen vergoed.
Het zelfde geld voor een artikel waarvan na aankoop bleek dat die niet geleverd kon worden.
Kortom ik kijk uit naar je volgende video en/of review.
Groeten, Rob
Hoi Rob,
Leuk om je reactie te lezen. Fijn dat Banggood dit netjes heeft opgelost. Ik moet zeggen dat ik dezelfde ervaring heb. Maar ik heb ook wel eens reacties gelezen dat het wat lastiger gaat. Dus voor de nuancering vind ik het fijn dat jij dezelfde ervaring heb als ik.
Groeten,
Dennis
Mooie video weer!
Ben zeer benieuwd naar de bouw van je werkbank.
Mag ik vragen waarom je de nieuwe kolomboor hebt? Was namelijk net van plan zo'n bosch aan te schaffen.
Hoi Sjoerd,
Op zich is de Bosch best een aardige kolomboor machine hoor. In sommige opzichten is hij zelfs erg fijn. Klem systeem is top, hoogte verstelling erg fijn en er zit een digitale diepte meter in wat ook erg handig is. Toeren zijn met een draaiknop te regelen i.p.v. riemen verwisselen. Ik vond het hem zelfs best wel sterk. Hij heeft een mooi koppel wat dat betreft. Het enige wat ik er op aan kan merken is dat hij niet zo stabiel en stevig is als een "echte" Pillar Dill. Dat maakt hem iets minder nauwkeurig.
Het is een erg praktische machine die voor de hobbyist erg leuk is (nu ben ik ook een hobbyist, maar ik wilde graag naar een iets nauwkeurige)
Die heb ik met de Jet zeker. Je merk dat ook direct als je hem gebruik, wat niet wil zeggen dat het eind resultaat nu dramatisch verschilt.
De Bosch is te koop :-) (2 jaar oud, niet veel gebruikt)
Groeten Dennis
@@HookedonWood Bedankt voor je reactie. Ik heb je een mailtje gestuurd;)
Sure wish we could get that colored MDF in the US Rocky Mountain region. Is it MDF or something else?
Yes, it is colored MDF. almost the same as Valchromat
Prachtige eiken tafel! Ik ben zelf bezig een nieuwe werkplaats te bouwen. En tussen de werken door heb ik even wat van je filmpjes bekeken. Mooi en doordacht werk allemaal. Ik ga mezelf ook es wat van die Chinese spulletjes bestellen in afwachting dat ik mijn nieuwe werkplaats in gebruik kan nemen. Ik klik ze even aan vanop je website, dan heb je er ook iets aan he. Greetz uit België!
Thanks man! Veel succes met je werkplaats.
Thank you very much for taking your time to review these products in real-use situations. It teaches me what to look for in general and how woodworking could / should be done. So, even if I'm not interested in purchasing any products, I still find these videos very helpful. Most other youtube resources out there focus on the big power tools. These hand tools is where the measuring is done and greatly impacts the end result. On a side note: I made typo while entering your website into the address bar: hookeronwood.online . Couldn't help but laugh ;)
:-))
Wow 🤩
Dag Dennis, ik op zoek naar een kolomboor en ben benieuwd naar het merk en type van jouw nieuwe kolomboor. Bij voorbaat dank voor je reactie.
Voorts ben ik heel benieuwd naar de bouwvorderingen van de nieuwe werktafel. Succes met de afbouw daarvan. Groet, Hans
Hoi Hans, Ik heb uiteindelijk gekozen voor de Jet JDP-15. Deze is ook als staand model leverbaar en dan heeft hij de naam JDP17.
Tot nu toe tevreden. Eerste indrukken. Erg zwaar. Best wel groot bereik. Snelheid moet je aanpassen met riemen en dat was ik niet gewend. Dit is te doen maar praktisch vind ik het niet. Verder loopt hij erg stil en soepel. Dat vind ik een hele fijne eigenschap. Hij is zeer stabiel en er zit op het eerste gezicht geen speling of slag op de "chuck" Hij heeft geen digitale diepte meter en dat vind ik wel jammer. De wijze waarop je de stop in kan stellen is echter wel makkelijk. Ik heb alleen nog niet kunnen testen of dit ook echt accuraat is. Hij heeft een groot platform, maar ik wil hier nog wel iets anders voor maken. Ik heb hem in een aanbieding gekocht in Duitsland voor 580,- excl btw en verzendkosten en dat vind ik een onwijs mooie prijs voor zo'n degelijke machine. Dit zat al wel een beetje aan de bovengrens van wat ik uit wilde geven voor zo'n machine. Wellicht dat ik in de toekomst er een keer een review over doe. Succes met de overwegingen. Groeten, Dennis
Hallo, zeer interessant!! Mag ik vragen of je deze video's ook geeft in het Nederlands aub? Een oude buurman vraagt me dat omdat hij de Engelse taal niet machtig is :-). Thx!!
Great reviews as always. Looking forward to the build videos when the Big Bad Germ allows.
We wouldn’t have this big bad germ if it wasn’t for the chinese same place those tools came from how about not buying Chinese
Jet drill press? Review would be interesting.
I will keep it in mind, but first I have to get to know it better! Thanks
Dennis
Hi Dennis. I don't want to be picky, just want to help you with your English. you called the Cabinet " Handles " {Handle Bars} just say Handles.. Handle Bars is what you will find on a Bicycle.
thank You Jack
Thanks for your comment. I will remember for next time. English is not my main language so I am happy if people make me a bit better:-)
$25 tool vs $50 tool - how much are your finger tips worth? I'll take the $50 tool thanks
Love your reviews! I am thinking of making dog holes in a workbench top. Do you think: 1) I can achieve a good degree of accuracy for placing the dog holes using the cabinet drill guide template as opposed to buying the expensive Parf guide system? And 2) I like to combine it with the Microjig clamping system routed tracks, and I don't have Festool track saw/tools ; therefore ,should I use 96 mm spacing still or 4 inch dog hole spacing and 20 mm vs 3/4 inch dog holes ( don't know if your recommended dog hole clamp would work in either size hole?). Thank you.
Hi Rashid, 1: I do not think it gives the accuracy as the parf guide system. And if not perfect, you can not use it for that. That said. 80% of the time I do not use the accuracy of this table. With two dogholes you always get a straight line. I found the horizontal and vertical alignment very nice and useful. But you can life without.
2. I can not understand your second question. I can not tell you if the rail guide clamps can be use in dogholes smaller than 20mm. I think it will be critical.
Maybe use some blue loctite on those screws?
Hi Trever,
Good point, that will be the solution!
Thanks
Dennis
Not sure at present we should be encouraging to buy from China!
pro tip. get the the topic i clicked inn for faster. 3min of other stuff and i allmost clicked away
agree! will think about it next time!
Hi Dennis, thanks so much for these videos. China is taking the same road as Taiwan did 20+ years ago: back then everything was made there (as it is in China today) and 99% of it was junk. But slowly but surely quality improved up to the point where you can now blindly trust Taiwanese quality to be outstanding. Needless to say, China also makes a lot of garbage nowadays, but quality manufacturers are starting to appear and thanks to your awesome series we can now separate the junk from the stuff that is worthwhile having. Your contribution to this is invaluable.
So I ordered this Radius Router Jig but it unfortunately arrived with lacking packaging (so much for the benefit of the doubt…) that caused the round edged insert to become damaged from banging around against the plate’s lock screws. You can see the original packaging as well as the damaged it caused here: czcams.com/video/AdB-j0ACFMk/video.html
Quite disappointing to see such a nice tool be damaged because they weren’t bothered to develop a decent box for it. I guess I’ll be sticking to Hondui and Veiko, as those 2 brands seem to be the only ones with top-to-bottom quality control and Banggood's customer service has been a total waste of time so far…
30,- china tool, comes in a beautiful box, with foam etc.
150,- Bosch accessory kit... “here is your cardboard box plebs... you can buy our L box for 50,- extra”
Personally, I am not really impressed with either of these tools.
1) The first one appears to be a marking or drilling tool, but does not actually do either. The drill inserts seem too short to be useful. You have found a favourable use for it by using a marking tool where the drills should be aligned and then drilling freehand. It is like giving a table saw a 5 star rating if you were able to use the fence and blade to score a mark on your workpiece that you later sawed out with a handsaw, because the tablesaw blade would not turn.
These chinese tools are very pretty, and have things about them that are done well, like the scales. But I don't think the fact they are "nicely made" should get them a pass, on poor design. It is not clear what this thing really is for. I have a similar tool by LV, and while it is extremely expensive, it does something important (32 mm) system, and it does it very well. I really should not have bought it at the price, as I don't use it enough, But pretty tools that are very poor on function and purpose, are even a worse value.
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2) This tool looks OK, but I also bought a pair of those tools you used reviewed back in episode 2, except the supplier I bought from only sent me one of the promised tools. Still not a bad tool. After a lifetime of picking up bottle caps to mark radiuses, I really looked forward to doing the same with these, and I can also use the router with them. I have no complaints.
The tool you reviewed in this episode has some advantages, it is larger and provides a nice hand hold, but that will simply make it harder to use on small pieces. It is a trade-off where I prefer smaller for storage, one piece, cheaper, and less sleazy looking. I can never see myself using the 45 degree angle, but for those who can, then there is some price advantage.
One can solve a bunch of problems by using a saw to rough the corner, and then only using the router to trim to the template. This will save time, noise, dust, and make holding easier.
I do not think the smaller templates are unsafe, for one thing you show a far safer way of using them with a clamp, and hand held router. Router tables are generally more dangerous as you can more easily apply your finger to a router bit in a table, than a router your hand is holding. Or you can rig an overhead guard on your router table, that will still provide access to the router, but make it extremely unlikely one will get cut on the table.
Your ratings make sense, I can just see a lot of ways to be satisfied with any of these products.
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But there is more. While I was waiting for my red rounder to arrive, I got a 3D printer. One can 3D print these templates for pennies, and they seem perfectly sturdy enough for heavy shop use. Sizes range from 2" down on Thigievers, lots of different free builds. You can do metric or imperial, and you can also shrink or expand any of these designs, with a few keystrokes, so you actually have infinite radii. There are also templates for people who just want to pencil mark corners.
The 3D printed tool range is vast. And you don't have to wait for them to arrive from China. I do love nicely finished metal, but these are also very cool.
I have to say, in a wierd way, I like your comments. :-).
You trigger me, that will not say, that I agree with you on every point. And of course, that is OK.
I am not agree with you on point one. There are more products for specific use. And of course, when that is the case, you have to decide for your self if you use it enough to justify purchase.
What I like about some products from China with a good price/quality ratio is that they mostly affordable to justify this purchase earlier. And having something for this, works better then having nothing for this purpose.
So, I agree with you that these guides are not designed to keep your drill bit steady. But that is not necessary. If you have to put handles on multiple drawers, this tool saves you a lot of time.
And I am shure that even you will be impressed by the quality of this first tool ;-0
2. I agree with you on the 45 degree angle. You have to remove to much for the router. So I would roughly cut it of, and then put it thru the router. Because, what you do get is a very consistent line.
I also said that I do not have a problem with the smaller templates, but it is so much relax to work with the other. And you can also can use it for smaller peaces of wood. Because if you use only the first pin at both sides it already works. So, I think we are pretty much thinking the same way.
Anyway, Thanks for your comment!
Dennis
These products obviously come from Banggood. My experience with Banggood is horrible. Nearly 50% of the orders never arrived. The customer service is incredible bad and unprofessional. You have to make your inquiries several times, the promised refund does not arrive. So you contact them again- and you have to go through the inquiry process again. These problems began before the crisis hit China, so that’s no excuse.
Hi Mortiz,
Sorry to read your comment. Luckily I do not have these experiences. I heard more viewers complain about the customer service. That is a shame. I believe it is not on a level that we are used to. I am convinced that they sent out a product, so if 50% get lost during transport is much. Thanks for sharing your experience.