Pesterquest: Eridan Ampora [NO COMMENTARY]
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- čas přidán 14. 01. 2020
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SO MANY CHOICES!
5:37 - IDK
6:00 - To Earth!
6:48 - Stay here
7:54 - Watch a movie!
(Basically they all lead to the same except the MOVIES)
THE BOYS ARE FIGHTINGGGGG
22:25 - Intercept an attack!
23:30 - Bail outta there!
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the duality of man is eridan being rly woke about gender one second then being incredibly racist the next
Yo. You're cool.
Twitter in a nutshell
Racist femboys
its because the woke people are very racist people.
Trans channers
Eridan: gender is fake an arbitrary but the hemospectrum is very very real
really makes you think
I think it's the reverse.
Gender IS real. Male is male and female is female. There is no 3rd gender.
As from the hemospectrum thing, all the trolls are one race, the Trolls. Sure, they have different blood and different functions, but if they work together, they could be a prosperous society. Also, adults NEED to be there. They need to be in charge so that things can run and work. The children need to be in school and also enjoy their time before becoming adults.
In short, gender IS real and the Trolls need a better society.
@@ndJssFlurt Please research gender beyond whatever they teach you in high school
I think the point with Eridan is that he's a Prince of Hope, and they highlight this by him "destroying" his belief in a rigid, binary system of gender. However, him being an active class means he only destroys his beliefs whenever destroying benefits him. The hemospectrum benefits him directly, seeing as he is amongst the highest bloodcastes. The part of him railing against gender conformity is supposed to point out this contradiction. He destroys outdated beliefs about gender for his own benefit, but the hemospectrum allows him to destroy to his own benefit.
Of course the contradiction only makes sense if you understand that sex and gender aren't the same, gender identity is more complicated than ones biological parts, and in fact most of gender is pure aesthetics: there are no biological reasons as to why men and women wear completely different clothes and aesthetics, there's no biological reason as to why shorter hair is considered masculine, etc. Much of gender is cultural, not biological. There is an arbitrary set of rules put in place as to what is and isn't acceptable behaviour for men and women, and not following these rules in most places makes you open to ridicule and harassment.
Of course, culturally, in most places there is a binary. However all over the world there are various cultures that do in fact have a cultural idea of a 3rd gender: listverse.com/2015/10/21/10-examples-of-nonbinary-genders-throughout-history/
It is a mistake to think that trans, non-binary, gay and bi people are a recent thing.
Also, even biologically there is no binary. Intersex people exist, and they have always existed too.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk
@@PocketDeerBoy
I've already learnt what I've needed from high school, because I went to a very good high school IMO.
Dave is thinking about his sexuality while Eridan is thinking about his gender .
Their both me-
welcome to the crisis zone- population me and Eridan Aparently
i kin them both and this hits hard
Eridan: "Do you have two bulges?"
Sollux (counting his 2 dream selves): "How do you know I don't have three"
XD
Timespam
alSO, “FRIENDSLUT”? CAN I GET THAT TATTOOED ON ME LIKE HOLY HELL
disappointed he didn’t say “pretty swwag huh” at some point
LMFAOO
OH GOD THE FLASHBACKS...........
FANON BECOMES CANON OH GOD THE DAD SHREK THING. IT'S REAL. IT'S REEEAAAAALLLL
Eridan: hey sol do you havve a double bulge
Sollux: *_so you've choo2en death._*
Eridan is officially a big Shrek fan confirmed.
Yo aren't you from those Dillin Thomas streams
@@cherrydragon6248 Why yes I am.
@@sergeantmituna6260 Yo nice to see you again my fellow Homestuck
Y335555555555!!!,!
He already was in collide
okay actually i think my new headcanon for eridan is that he has a scottish accent because you know, shrek
dude of void This is just so perfect
Shrek has a Scottish accent? I thought it was Irish smH
I've had that headcanon for years. Him and Dualscar. Cronus also has one that is poorly covered up by his attempt at a greaser accent. Those are just mine though.
Octopimp eridan doing a Scottish accent.
I thought his voice would be a goth dantdm
Every time I go through these routes I keep getting reminded that WOW they really are just kids holy shit. I’m happy with the way they took his route
He's somewhat adorable and fits his personality well
"Hey Sollux who are you talking to?"
"An entitled sub"
*I'M*
the theme kinda sounds like some sea shanty ass music and i am infatuated with it
I see it as waltz music
I hear it as waltz music but at the same time I find it hard to align it to the scale
Someone said "Eridan Wwednesday" and now I can't stop thinking about it.
I’m so in love with this Eridan’s art style.
Dude the guy who drew him is also the guy who drew Karako
H3 is kinda hot tho
SAME
literally all the other characters are just not accurate, but eridan's is pretty accurate tbh
@@RiceTrees I can agree with that.
So real ! I love him
Can we just acknowledge that it's likely Eridan likes Shrek 2 SOLELY because of the "I Need a Hero" rescue scene?
A TRUE MASTERPIECE.
Eridan: *says something wholesome*
Nice
*after 2 seconds* "anywway lets talk about hemospectrum"
Ah shit here we go
It’s canon Eridan wears dresses and I love it.
Timespam?
@@imtotallyfine1100 you mean timestamp? If so its 11:14
he has,,, purple nails,,, i love this artist :,)))
"Eridan, do you believe in the hemospectrum?"
"I'm Trans."
"THEY'RE DODGING THE QUESTION."
at this point being compared to zebruh codakk is worse than being stabbed in the chest twice
eridan: gender bad
me: yes facts
also eridan: poor people bad
also me: *nervous sweating*
Is his phone case a freaking poptart? Thats amazing.
honestly as a big eridan fan and someone who's not really a fan of a lot of modern homestuck writing or how fans act about him i'm pretty happy with this !
i think they struck a really good chord with eridan here where his actions are reprehensible but they actually do make quite a lot of acknowledgement about the fact that eridan isn't even the big bad genocidal asswipe he's so intent on painting himself as - sollux's entire speech at the end i mostly adored _(one or two lines felt a bit off and generic and...... idk, twitter-person-y?? which is a problem with a lot of modern homestuck stuff for me, but most of it was really good imo)_ and i like that even the person who has the most reason to hate eridan of anyone outright says he doesn't even believe in the discriminatory garbage he spews off
i guess i still don't agree entirely with the viewpoint taken of him here _(i still feel eridan is treated like he's somehow by far the worst of the trolls even next to gamzee and especially vriska and like...... i'm sorry, i like vriska more than eridan as a character, she's one of the two beta trolls i like over him, but she's absolutely no better than him on a moral level and i get tired of the fans who act like she is)_ but i think they largely did him _(and sollux here)_ justice, which is honestly relieving considering i'm so used to... well, what i just talked about in parenthesis, which i still feel was _kiiinda_ there but not to an egregious extent !
also, i admit literally as someone who DESPISES GENDER STIGMA and finds binary bs outdated af that i find a lot of the retroactive gender stuff with the og chars feeling a bit forced but like, march eridan has been around for ages, and while clothing doesn't mean jack about your identity i think it makes sense eridan would find stigma around gender to be kinda bullshit as he should ! and of course it worked as a really good juxtaposition with eridan's classist "beliefs" _(which on another note, i somehow never made the connection between eridan's fake belief in the hemospectrum and his title as a prince of hope..... well, i've talked about that in regards to his denial of magic before so MAYBE i did but like, guess it never hit me properly til now)_
overall, it's not perfect and i guess it still has the things that make me feel a bit sad with modern hs stuff, but i'm really glad they got a lot right with eridan and didn't take the purely-woobie route _(which was pretty much never a possibility given the writing team but still)_ or the HE IS SCUM NAZI INCEL route _(which i feared with how i've seen a lot of prominent people in hs now act)_ !
Dude, *THE MUSIC*
8:34 cant help but think that eridan looks like hes about to say “WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES”
I will admit I cried.
We stan eridan, we love him, we protect him, and we will care for him with our lives
We definitely stan Eridan. Hes always been my favorite character. When he talked about the Gender stuff, I will admit I nearly cried.
I hate him
but at the other side, I like him
that whole fight scene was pretty intense ngl
eridan sure is a real
fincel
Eridan with his eyes closed? Gorgeous. Look at that eyeliner. Perfection 👌🏽
I wasn't a fan of eridan in the comic but I really liked this route! The writers gave them an interesting conflict (re: which sorts of alternian prejudice eridan supports/rejects) and gave them some much needed depth while still preserving the character's original vibe
Me: *leaves homestuck for a bit*
Homestuck: .... Hey you missed the day when eridan and fef was put into pesterquest..
Me: *visibly upset* o h...
Yes, yes, *yes*. I don't have access to a computer and I've been meaning to give the Friendsims a look-see and gracious, I'm elated to see how fucking well balanced my fav character's is, especially after years in misinformed fandom.
For one, the reader's dialogue isn't framed in a bias fashion towards Eridan (whereas a LARGE ass majority of the fandom will tell you they dislike him solely for fanon misconceptions). The reader treats him with the attitude that they give to all the other characters, and I *adore* that it resonates so well with actual fans of each individual character- and here is no exception!
I couldn't help but keep chuckling at, in lack of better words, how much of a smug, conceded piece of pompous shit he is in the first ten or so minutes. Which is a very true reflection on his canon personality- due to his status and how it's drilled into him, (as it is with many highbloods from birth or I guess.. hatching) his superiority facade is flaunted, but it's also reflected on. The fact that Eridan admits that he feels the need to conceal his true character by being this gross caricature of snobbishness is speaks on levels to me.
Him hamming up an incredibly idiotic conflict between him and Sollux shows us that he feels he *needs* to be this way- for one, due to him being used, comfortable even, with being hated due to his conjured haughtiness. And two, though he has incredibly impressive and commendable morals, (especially of how bullshit gender binary roles are used widely to oppress and control people by fitting them into restrictive and harmful stereotypes, even touching on how nonbinary folks have been apart of society since forever), no one would take him seriously as well.. he's racist as that one uncle at family gatherings we all try to avoid striking up convo with.
Just because you advocate for one thing strongly doesn't redeem you for your other bigoted attitudes, especially one that is a large cultural + systematic factor that you fuel by hating a group of people from pure ignorance.
To wrap this up, I love that after the reader gives it to Eridan how it is, he sincerely considers everything. He was genuinely understanding that his bigotries were making him the desperate, nearly socially inept tool he was and will find it in himself to change- not in the span of a few exchanges of dialogue, but over the course of serious self-reflection and learning. Eridan is a 13 year old born into privilege and wealth, and due to this, his unconscious tone is constantly degrading those underprivileged.
TL;DR of this, your resident enby is delighted to see after eight years invested in a beloved series, genuine love go into their fav character's silly friend-date text based adventure. :'}💜
WHO MADE HIS SPRITES THO. they deserve the world for that, all of them are super fucking good
especially the one at 0:20, it's really expressive and also it kinda reminds me of something. cant place what, though
the sprite at like 4:15 gave me MAD tegiri vibes, i had to do a double take and that was probably real dumb since thats a common pose
Oh god. I can't bring myself to hate him, I love him too much
Coming back to this route always makes me unreasonably happy, I can’t even describe it. Eridan s always been my favorite, and seeing him finally have a good hand drawn to him, it’s impossible to watch this and not get a giant grin on my face
ME TOO HONESTLY
the "THE BOYS ARE FIGHTINGGGGG" in the description is SO funny thank you so much
love how they used "the la2t frontiier" at around 19:19! pretty good theme imo, from a long time ago
Well then, this was fun. One minute hating down on this fool, the next I'm lovving this portrayal and thinking, "this is going to be all sorts of psychoanalysingly sad"
I DO want to comfort the broken hearted little fish boy 🥺
16:21 is literally an Ed, edd and eddy reference LMAO
Would rather say it's sollux being his meme-y self but yes
This whole entire route is a mood and I lovve it
ok so he's really fucking adorable
he'd still be matespirites with a rock tho
They have the voice right, but I feel like the characterization was kind of everywhere. This route had its ups and downs, and I did like the ending, but I feel like fanon was injected to make them seem worse in the beginning.
However, it does confirm the non-binary headcanon I've had for years, so it has that much at least!
Same! I always thought Eridan was into more Political Shenanigans, but I can see how that would be difficult to put into the narrative they set here for Pesterquest. Too much Sollux, not enough discussion over history books (which could make for interesting tie-in to Friendsim story).
@@VegaNorth It would've been interesting to see something like that! But nah, we got an Eridan who doubled down on the desperation and kinda removed a bunch of character which made me like them in the comic. Which... is how fanon has been treating em for years now. If it weren't for that ending which nailed EXACTLY what their problem was and how they could fix it, the route overall would've been 'meh-to-bad'.
I would've definitely liked to see them feeding Feferi's lusus (Which I think they completely glossed over in the routes?), a nod to their friendship with Karkat to prove that they were all talk about blood stuff, or the fact that Eridan can definitely take 'No' for an answer.
@@ambrose4947 YES THEY DID GLOSS OVER THE LUSUS FEEDING BIT. And that was such a huge crux over the moiraillegiance. And I would have liked to see what the consequences would be if Fef's lusus was still fed by Eridan even if they weren't moirails anymore.
Also, I miss Eridan ribbing Karkat over the romcoms. T_T Oh well...
it troubles me that ''Shrek 2'' is a movie title on alternia. Weren't their names hyper fucking long and descriptive?
didn't really acknowledge Eridan in homestuck so far, (I'm on act 5 part 2) but after watching this, I loved it. I feel like ppl treat him as one of the worst trolls. But I love him. And the gender thing WE STAN. I totally agree with it And I love the idea of Eridan wearing skirts! >:]
I see that almoust everytime when MSPA reader meets(not befriend, Eridian is the first violet blood MSPA reader befriended) a violet blood the seedweller woud want the MSPA reader attention and MSPA reader woud then be something like "bish u talking to me?" . Like remember in Nikhhe's route when there was that seedweller and he was something like :"Hey alien!" And MSPA reader looked around the room as if they weren't the only alien there.
I do! I do wanna comfort the fish boy! TO an unhealthy degree! It has become an Issue!
I am a Derse dreamer Prince of Hope and a true Aquarius sign so I relate to Eridan WAY to much but also notice very important differences in character between me and him mainly I’m not a desperate narcissistic asshole.
The first choice page has like 7 goddamn choices, man we are really in the driver's seat now getting completely shitfaced on all this choice-making like its a wily character select screen gone ballistic
Robby Shenanigans and most of them do the same thing
y’all talking about Sollux being enby (which I stan) BUT EVERYONE IS SLEEPING ON *ERIDAN*
Sollux no. Don't praise the lowly Ampora.
@@sergeantmituna6260 no please do
@@eridanampora3024 No. Get out of here you dirty hipster.
@@sergeantmituna6260 :(
@@eridanampora3024 I'm kinda sorry. Accept my apology.
nerd fight
you accidentally saving instead of loading, and then frraking out when it all goes to hell is a big fucking mood
"soft zebruh vibes"
I am very happy with the music choice for the fight scene
AHHHHH YES MY BABY BOIIII
Dud3 ar3 y0u lik3 having a crush 0n y0ur s3lf?
so i'm just gonna say this
Pesterquest Eridan is best Eridan don't @ me
I kind of love this route. It's probably my favorite so far.
im so in love with eridan its not even a joke anymore
i never expected to agree with eridian on anything especially not gender but im glad i had this one moment where i liked his character before he was racist seconds after
If we can get the Alpha kids then our friendship pile would be complete!
We are. The writer for Jane's route has already been revealed.
the bgm is a bop
all of the bgms in pesterquest are bops
The irony that he say's gender roles serve no purpose. But he's assigned to a only male classpect.
I thought Hussie retconned the gender part of classpects
@@MiscEris Hussie's reply was one word: "sure". I guess it's his way of saying "ok, why not" to theorists while still open to interpretation regarding gender-exclusivity variants.
(Ridiculously late reply but, I personally don't like to base info on Tumblr theorists insisting their headcanons as everyone's canon.)
Gender isn’t real but race superiority is 😞✌️
I'm not gonna lie, out of all of the stories or routes or writing or whatever, this one feels the most off or something
It's still good though
I havent heard much about the writer besides that they made jojostuck, but theyre not as popular as Aysha or James in the Homestuck writing team
I love him and his smile made me so SOFT I can't-
There is no troll shrek
Shrek is multi-universal
little nitpick about the game over screen at 23:21. it fits the scene very well but i feel like there shouldnt be that much blood, mc’s arm would probably have been cauterized by the laser
9:02 AHHHHE SMILED
AAAAAAAAAA
lemme jst
i love this man,,,
hes a jerk
but hes a...
reasonable jerk
i will never understand the people that hate eridan:((
2:27 Wworthless is spelled incorrectly.
Holy shit
holy shit this route was a fucking ride i loved it
i love eridan sm
I like this a lot, like, it's awesome that they let Eridan actually have hope in this. Plus considering what happens in Dirk Strider's Route. It's cool to know that this isn't just flushed away due to "canon", theres genuinely timelines with Eridans that aren't villains. I wish the same could be said for Gamzee :o(
also shrek doesn't say "this is my swamp" in shrek 2
30:06 real smile :o
I feel like I needed this
When the sunslammer remix started playing i lost it
I’ve had the non-binary headcanon for Eridan for YEARS and as an non-binary non conforming individual it’s great to see that Headcanon basically be confirmed! I love this route I KNOW Eridan can be a better person if they try.
This is somehow surprisingly wholesome.
Also-
Floating Sollux-
LMAOOOO THE FRUSTRATED POINTER AT 8:28 IS SO FUNNY
"nobody wwants to be my friend and i don't blame them" is my new motto
So, in the comic, troll movie names are usually incredibly long due to troll movies being around for such a long time.
The fact that Shrek 2 has so concise of a name implies that Shrek 2 has existed for an incredible amount of time, and has remained such a cult classic that it’s still being shown in movie theaters to this day.
Until we meet again!
I love the ending. Yes!
that's not a shrek 2 quote hello????
FINALLLYYY
I still love you eridan
ooooooo theyre Fightinf
nevermind im crying!
I cant help but feel the gender part was shoved in there.
feel then fool. you're weak and fragile
like its been an aspect of his character for literally almost a decade now
@@smonkk8556 Well it still could have been written better
@@smonkk8556 Like it was just sort of, put in there, like a puzzle piece that doesn't belong, sure that piece goes somewhere, but not right there you know?
@@smonkk8556 Also feel then fool is very threating, i will make sure to remember to use that.
wow i want to dominate hHUH. what
fuck i felt that when you saved over a save and had to replay it again
Seadwellers demanding money for the privilege of listening to their woes is the new funniest part of Alternia for me.
Wow
What's the fight song called
the la2t frontiier
Eridan after saying woke shit about genders: anywway let's talk about the hemospectrum
IM FUCKING DYING
ii love watchiing these and when ii do ii tend to narrate the character2 talkiing and dear gog iit ii2 2o hard to keep up wiith eriidan2 dumb ww and vv thiing
Shrek 2????? FUCK YES!!!!!
hes sOOOO silly eueueueuee
REAL I AGREE
:33< VERYY REAL!!!!!!!