The Angels are Wasting Trout and Ohtani's Careers...and They Must be Stopped

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  • čas přidán 11. 06. 2021
  • Creator: Matt
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    Since Mike Trout's debut in 2011, the Los Angeles Angels have made the playoffs only once, and have never won a playoff game. Not only do the Angels have one of the best players in baseball history in Mike Trout, but now they have a healthy Shohei Ohtani doing things we've never seen before in the history of the sport. The Angels have never given either of these two a decent shot at a deep postseason run. Matt needed nearly 30 minutes to break it all down, and show you how this truly is a one of a kind disservice to the fans of professional sports everywhere.
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  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington Před 3 lety +467

    one of the best explanations of ohtani's greatness you could get... such fascinating stats

  • @d2s260
    @d2s260 Před 3 lety +795

    I feel like the Angels are the team that everyone always quietly supports because no one around baseball likes to see talent being wasted like this

    • @sportswiz2050
      @sportswiz2050 Před 3 lety +15

      fax i'm a nats fan and even though the angels got rendon (he was gonna go since nats signed straus) but i rly hope the angels do good

    • @Triqkshot
      @Triqkshot Před 3 lety +26

      Marlin and Cub fan here and I desperately want Trout to get out because he’s wasted enough time there and deserves to chase after a championship with a good team.

    • @JesusChrist2000BC
      @JesusChrist2000BC Před 3 lety +44

      I wouldnt say ANYBODY supports the garbage Angels. They just watch Trout and Ohtani highlights and skip the other trash they field. If you took Trout and Ohtani off the roster the Angels would probably get smacked by the minor league championship team.

    • @rockofshame
      @rockofshame Před 3 lety +10

      I’ve gotten the sense is that everyone is fed up w the angels and just root for the players individually

    • @silveryo7678
      @silveryo7678 Před 3 lety +3

      Mets fan and I’ve always been a little sad when I see them lose

  • @Emersonrhodes909
    @Emersonrhodes909 Před 3 lety +289

    The worst part is the angels this year have a better record without trout than with trout

    • @ryanberner04
      @ryanberner04 Před 3 lety +7

      It was the same thing with them in 2017. Mike Trout=Jacob deGrom???

    • @macanthonyonyirimba3096
      @macanthonyonyirimba3096 Před 3 lety

      You guys have had an easy schedule but not taking away from how good you guys are lately also

    • @zacwoods
      @zacwoods Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah maybe the Angels realized he’s the common denominator in all of their losing seasons. Trout’s a loser.

    • @JesusChrist2000BC
      @JesusChrist2000BC Před 3 lety +39

      @@zacwoods Lmao Trout can't play every position. The Angels have bad coaching and the team relies on Trout too much that's why when he's out they win because it forces all the mediocre players to step up. Not Trouts fault. Other teams don't have this issue when their best player is out usually they get worse. Shows its an Angels problem and not a Trout problem.

    • @clotho5437
      @clotho5437 Před 2 lety

      Same shit with Nolan in Colorado, 2020 season. Doesn't really paint the big picture.

  • @Dre2Dee2
    @Dre2Dee2 Před 3 lety +98

    "Has anyone had to deal with this much mediocrity?"
    Ichiro: Hai

    • @jn7428
      @jn7428 Před 2 lety +5

      The mariners won 116 games.....

    • @Alex-bk3td
      @Alex-bk3td Před 2 lety +11

      and then they missed the world series

    • @drlongshaftmd
      @drlongshaftmd Před 2 lety +2

      felix hernandez also says hello

    • @lautarojortak3786
      @lautarojortak3786 Před 2 lety +1

      @@drlongshaftmd wouldn't he say hola?

    • @petersonofleo11
      @petersonofleo11 Před 2 lety

      @@jn7428 Sure but after that the Mariners couldnt sniff the playoffs anymore.

  • @p1nnacleee
    @p1nnacleee Před 3 lety +827

    This hurts as an angels fan, it’s bad ownership

    • @cooper518
      @cooper518 Před 3 lety +16

      Same

    • @icyxchris5378
      @icyxchris5378 Před 3 lety +6

      Same here😔

    • @SW2799
      @SW2799 Před 3 lety +14

      I’m in the Los Angeles area I am a fan of both the Dodgers and the Angels. It would be great if Trout and Ohtani would come up the road And join Albert Pujols On the Dodgers.

    • @jamesallmon7756
      @jamesallmon7756 Před 3 lety +71

      @@SW2799 no, that would be terrible

    • @n00btype
      @n00btype Před 3 lety +11

      @@SW2799 He would lose the option to DH or else burn that arm playing outfield, which would be risky for him as a pitcher. AL is just offers more options for him.

  • @bmac4
    @bmac4 Před 3 lety +277

    Ichiro and King Felix immediately come to mind. Exactly one playoff berth with a total of four wins between them both, with all of it coming in Ichiro's first season in the bigs. Felix never made it despite being borderline Hall of Fame talent.
    (He was successful in Japan before but so was Shohei)

    • @qfmarsh64
      @qfmarsh64 Před 3 lety +3

      Felix's first Cy Young was in 2010. Ichiro had already been a pro for half his life.

    • @YogSoth
      @YogSoth Před 3 lety +14

      Mariner’s did it twice: Griffey and A-Rod (although they didn’t play together for too long)

    • @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333
      @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Před 3 lety

      Yodel Odelstein The Reds didn’t do anything with Griffey either, to be fair.

    • @lc9245
      @lc9245 Před 3 lety +3

      Randy Johnson and Edgar Martinez as well. They had much better line up than the Angels now, but amount to nothing anyway.

    • @kissthefish2188
      @kissthefish2188 Před 3 lety +4

      @@lc9245 They didnt win a ring but it wasnt because the Mariners didnt put together a team capable. They made it to the ALCS twice. The Mariners definitely didnt waste Randy... they used him as much as possible and then shipped him to a team who did win it. Edgar was there for the 90s and 2001...

  • @RobertLPeeters
    @RobertLPeeters Před 3 lety +84

    I laughed way too hard at “Angels of Averageheim”.

  • @sanderappel4499
    @sanderappel4499 Před 3 lety +74

    I’m not even an Angels fan, so I can’t even imagine how angry this must make their fans

    • @newsdan8193
      @newsdan8193 Před 3 lety +10

      For the last decade and then some, its been miserable. Legit had a memory from 8 years ago saying "its gonna be a long year with how bad our pitching is"

    • @zacwoods
      @zacwoods Před 3 lety +2

      @@newsdan8193 its gonna be a long year because you know Milquetoast Trout isnt gonna lead your team anywhere no matter how good or bad the pitching is. If he’s the best player he needs to stay in the game and actually help his team win something otherwise kill all that chatter. He wasted 3 very good teams in Anaheim early in his career where he couldve made a playoff push but instead they didnt. They had solid pitching and didnt even make the playoffs.

    • @newsdan8193
      @newsdan8193 Před 3 lety +1

      @@zacwoods they haven't had solid pitching in over a decade. Even if they had big name starters, they underperformed and then the bullpen would allow too many runs. Take the blockhammer cause you're annoying 😂😂

    • @andyfrex3721
      @andyfrex3721 Před 3 lety

      In 5 step of depresion I am at step 2 already

    • @zacwoods
      @zacwoods Před 3 lety

      @@newsdan8193 excuses excuses. We’ve seen WORSE teams make the playoffs. Dude couldnt even lead his team to the playoffs with 3 TEAMS TANKING IN HIS DIVISION. Stop it.

  • @CycloneBurnesMusic
    @CycloneBurnesMusic Před 3 lety +446

    The Troutani Days = The Days where Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani entertain Anaheim and management continues to make little to no progression

    • @Rylopero
      @Rylopero Před 3 lety +1

      @Bipolar Bryan it rings off the tongue better. Also Trout has seniority over Shohei

    • @colonless7512
      @colonless7512 Před 3 lety +2

      It’s basically like Lebron James in his first 3 years in Cleveland, wasted years because he has to play with Anderson Verajo and Mo Williams

    • @noahmcdaniel4920
      @noahmcdaniel4920 Před 2 lety +1

      If you don't think the angels have a playoff-bound team this year you just don't know how to evaluate baseball teams.

    • @user-fn4dz8xe8i
      @user-fn4dz8xe8i Před 2 lety

      @@cactusjackNV
      I wish

    • @greatloverofmusic1
      @greatloverofmusic1 Před 2 lety +1

      LMAO! The baseball equivalent to the Dark Ages.

  • @keeeeez23
    @keeeeez23 Před 3 lety +230

    Blame the ownership. Been an angel fan for 17 years about to be 18, and Arte Moreno cares more about the stadium looks rather than the team

    • @randomcommenter5552
      @randomcommenter5552 Před 3 lety +10

      At least he gives the Angels tons of money to spend?

    • @keeeeez23
      @keeeeez23 Před 3 lety +25

      @@randomcommenter5552 yeah but he never lets the GM spend it wisely. He likes spending money on big washed out names to bring in people. Hopefully our new GM isn’t used as a puppet like Billy Eppler was.

    • @randomcommenter5552
      @randomcommenter5552 Před 3 lety +1

      @@keeeeez23 still at least its fun to watch them, even if they suck they do a great job at entertaining

    • @keeeeez23
      @keeeeez23 Před 3 lety

      @@randomcommenter5552 true

    • @bobbuilder7742
      @bobbuilder7742 Před 3 lety +1

      The stadium is hella nice tho fr

  • @_clankycirclez_3229
    @_clankycirclez_3229 Před 3 lety +80

    The Edmonton Oilers, McDavid and Draisaitl, comes to mind as a modern equivilant. Two generational players surrounded by lacking depth and management.

    • @joshlavallee4728
      @joshlavallee4728 Před rokem +2

      Except the Oilers just made it to the western conference finals.

    • @jeremytaft8247
      @jeremytaft8247 Před rokem

      @@joshlavallee4728 ya but they got swept.

    • @brandocalrissian3294
      @brandocalrissian3294 Před 9 měsíci

      They'll never get past the second round again until some major changes happen in edmonton.

  • @almightysosa3007
    @almightysosa3007 Před 3 lety +61

    As an angel fan who’s watched almost every game for the past 20 years. It is painful to watch this team fail year after year. We know what it’s like to suck but to have potential and suck is much much worse

    • @zacwoods
      @zacwoods Před 3 lety

      Blame your leader for being a loser. Milquetoast Trout cant inspire or lead his teammates to anything of substance whatsoever. He had 3 seasons with a great team around him earlier in his career and did absolutely nothing with them.

    • @sneersh9107
      @sneersh9107 Před rokem

      Sorry there's no relief for you this year, in fact this year seems like the worst one in a while with how the angels were predicted to be and how good they started off. Sorry your front office has no idea what they're doing and doesn't give a shit about the fans.

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 Před rokem

      Can’t believe their only WS title was 20 years ago now.
      I know it’s a long time ago, but knowing how garbage they’ve been since then it feels even longer than that.

    • @Nache1451
      @Nache1451 Před 9 měsíci

      Wait until 2023.

  • @mariokart9227
    @mariokart9227 Před 3 lety +382

    I knew this day would come

    • @chrissuperstargaming
      @chrissuperstargaming Před 3 lety +4

      What has come cause there is no way they are going to trade either one of these 2 players they would be down right stupid to trade them and the last time I looked a hall of fame player ain't judged on how many world series rings he has

    • @kennybegeske8824
      @kennybegeske8824 Před 3 lety +2

      The Angels should transfer Ohtani to the Outfield because since his pitching injuries I think the Angels are going to get Ohtani to the Outfield fast

    • @ethanniedorowski116
      @ethanniedorowski116 Před 2 lety

      An went

    • @kennybegeske8824
      @kennybegeske8824 Před 2 lety

      @@ethanniedorowski116 Ohtani Should leave Pitching for his new gig at 1BASE and Outfield

  • @johnpino6545
    @johnpino6545 Před 3 lety +74

    Youre missing out on the current day Edmonton Oilers, Draisaitl and McDavid are 2 of the 3 highest scoring players in the NHL since 2015 and have just one playoff series win between them and havent won anything since 2017

    • @justinhan6343
      @justinhan6343 Před 3 lety +2

      Or how about the '93 Oilers with Warren Moon and ...oh wrong Oilers

    • @ozzymandias7649
      @ozzymandias7649 Před 3 lety +11

      Yeah it really struck me that the obvious comparison is literally happening right now. Shows how little appreciation there is for the sport if hockey.

    • @callmejeff9272
      @callmejeff9272 Před 3 lety +2

      Nailed it man but sadly this guy probably could careless about the greatest sport in the world

    • @turkeykaiser
      @turkeykaiser Před 2 lety

      Seriously, no one pisses away talent like the NHL. Edmonton and Toronto are especially, chronically pathetic and churn through HOF players on the regular.

    • @chance2413
      @chance2413 Před 2 lety

      @@callmejeff9272 Footy is the best sport. Then a tie between Baseball/football (American), then maybe hockey can fight with the NBA. And I am American.
      Go Chelsea

  • @TheRand0mHer089
    @TheRand0mHer089 Před 3 lety +65

    Love Ohtani. So glad he was able to recover from his injury last year.

  • @winstonkostrzewa1585
    @winstonkostrzewa1585 Před 2 lety

    I love this…really well done video from start to finish. Cheers!

  • @Matts_Smirkingrevenge
    @Matts_Smirkingrevenge Před 3 lety +130

    Really feel like the 90s Mariners do fit this for the Griffey years.

    • @rushclovis3178
      @rushclovis3178 Před 3 lety

      ehhhhh…. idk about that

    • @qfmarsh64
      @qfmarsh64 Před 3 lety

      Did . . . you not watch Part 4 of that one thing?

    • @BobTheBreaker9
      @BobTheBreaker9 Před 3 lety +2

      King Felix as well

    • @tubenachos
      @tubenachos Před 3 lety +1

      At least in 95 they won a playoff series.

    • @jerrylai96
      @jerrylai96 Před 3 lety +3

      I'd personally say Ichiro and King Felix fit it better tbh

  • @Jebusrulez
    @Jebusrulez Před 3 lety +48

    Those 60s Cubs had 3 hall of famers in their regular lineup when Billy Williams is included and still couldn't make the playoffs.

    • @noahwright8109
      @noahwright8109 Před 3 lety +5

      Don't forget they had Fergie Jenkins at the tail-end of the 60's and into the early 70's.

    • @WillGrimm623
      @WillGrimm623 Před 3 lety +3

      Well for a lot of those years they just couldn’t compete with those Dodgers teams of the 60’s and in 1969 they just fell apart and couldn’t win the division.

    • @microsoftspam
      @microsoftspam Před 2 lety

      "Making the playoffs" was really "making the world series" back then, as only two teams made the postseason. It sounds worse when you say it the way you did, it was extremely hard to win the pennant in the old days, winning the division didn't guarantee you a spot in the postseason. Now a days a 90 win team can win the world series if they get hot in September/October. I just think its kind of harsh to put it the way you did, the Angels are far more disappointing because they cant even achieve a first round exit, something those Cubs teams could have at least done with the current playoff format back then. The Cubs did absolutely choke in 1969 though, ill give you that.

  • @simonesho-fan1122
    @simonesho-fan1122 Před 3 lety +95

    Would be a tragedy not to see Ohtani play in a World Series

    • @TheIerockabilly
      @TheIerockabilly Před 3 lety +13

      Griffey didn't play in a world series at all trust me you will survive

    • @simonesho-fan1122
      @simonesho-fan1122 Před 3 lety

      @@TheIerockabilly 🤣

    • @my2l
      @my2l Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheIerockabilly And all the other mariner greats :(

    • @slapshot68
      @slapshot68 Před 2 lety +3

      He will be a Yankee or a Met in the future

    • @simonesho-fan1122
      @simonesho-fan1122 Před 2 lety

      @@slapshot68 my dad said the same thing. He won’t go anywhere where he can’t both pitch and hit but will pay the price for his talent

  • @FiLizzi
    @FiLizzi Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome vid bro! This makes me think about the Rays and A's which, in contrast to the Angels' bank, have at least gone to the post season recently several times despite their payroll. I'd love to see something about that in the future. Keep doing great content man!

  • @murkilurtzaqateemb4244
    @murkilurtzaqateemb4244 Před 3 lety +35

    We've had too many great players have their careers wasted by dysfunctional franchises. This is just so sad.

  • @jackmcgonegle6483
    @jackmcgonegle6483 Před 3 lety +29

    The Incredibles background music and reference in the last part makes this an instant like

  • @mowhawktacos7138
    @mowhawktacos7138 Před 3 lety +12

    Man, I do think you guys get enough credit for the time, effort, and research you guys put into these videos. It’s always a goodnight when I can watch these 25 minute plus videos and hear these awesome opinions and ideas about baseball. Keep it up guys!

  • @Jakes_Sports
    @Jakes_Sports Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for putting all that work in it taught me a lot I appreciate when I learn something you got a new supporter in me

  • @jeanmarcoslopez5378
    @jeanmarcoslopez5378 Před 3 lety +30

    I think the closest to Ohtani and Trout in sports is with Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid who play for the Edmonton Oilers in the NHL.

    • @gregcub3d
      @gregcub3d Před 3 lety +1

      yea but at least they've made the playoffs, they've won a series or two... maybe try the leafs on for size (and even STILL they've made the playoffs at the least)

    • @MNSportsJunkie101
      @MNSportsJunkie101 Před 3 lety +2

      I'm actually thinking Matthew Stafford and Calvin Johnson with the Detroit Lions.

    • @drewv1747
      @drewv1747 Před 3 lety +3

      @@gregcub3d it’s a lot harder to make the playoffs in the MLB. It’s a very good comparable. McDavid and Draisaitl have each won MVP awards

    • @johnzzze
      @johnzzze Před 3 lety

      I scrolled looking for this. McDavid has a real shot at being top 3 all time in my opinion. I've never seen a player better than him. Draisaitl is in the same vein at this point as well. Pretty rare you have the top 2 scorers on the same NHL.

    • @slapshot68
      @slapshot68 Před 2 lety

      When will both be FAs?

  • @newsdan8193
    @newsdan8193 Před 3 lety +13

    As an Angels fan, I've been saying for the last decade we need to fix pitching. Its insane that its still the biggest weak spot on the team.

  • @jeffa3316
    @jeffa3316 Před 3 lety +1

    Love all your videos and this is definitely one of my Favorites!! Something I find myself saying often since learning about Ohtani his rookie year is “I don’t think people really understand how hard what he’s doing is, and how unbelievably good he really is”!!!
    I really think if he stays healthy enough to continue pitching all year, and stays consistent with his hitting(which I only see him getting inconsistent if he gets injured and is out of the lineup for an extended period of time) that he has the best chance at winning AL MVP this year. He doesn’t need to have league best numbers in either hitting or pitching, just above league avg in both, stays healthy, and I think he gets MVP relatively easy??
    Thought??
    Great video!!!!

  • @monot00nz
    @monot00nz Před 3 lety +24

    I've BEEN telling my best friend that Mike Trout will be one of the greatest players to never get a ring. He's going to be the Carmelo Anthony of MLB.

    • @Jimm9634
      @Jimm9634 Před 2 lety +12

      If you are doing that comparison, there's better players to make that comparison. Charles Barkley, Allen Iverson, Steve Nash, James Harden, just to name a few.

    • @epicwolf
      @epicwolf Před 2 lety +3

      Carmelo Anthony is not the greatest nba player to never win a ring. You must not watch the NBA much.

    • @shawnlynch9658
      @shawnlynch9658 Před 2 lety

      Lol Carmelo

    • @epicwolf
      @epicwolf Před 2 lety

      @@shawnlynch9658
      Seriously. I bet you his best friend was like "wtf? Carmelo?" Lol

    • @Entername-md1ev
      @Entername-md1ev Před 2 lety

      Lol melo shouldn’t be in the same breath as trout

  • @ernestthompson6888
    @ernestthompson6888 Před 3 lety +100

    I did a Franchise on the Angels on MLB The Show and they have plenty of hitters but they pitchers other then Shohei sucks.
    All I literally did was got rid of Pijols and sign some pitchers and the very next season they end up winning nearly 100 games

    • @joshuahays3566
      @joshuahays3566 Před 3 lety +17

      mlb the show so realistic

    • @eddielol9909
      @eddielol9909 Před 3 lety

      Lmao

    • @owenanderson3425
      @owenanderson3425 Před 3 lety +2

      That probably wouldn’t happen though

    • @Skye-tb7oq
      @Skye-tb7oq Před 3 lety +8

      You should apply to be the angels' GM!

    • @jd0192
      @jd0192 Před 3 lety

      @@joshuahays3566 bruh imagine thinking that it’s more complex than that…

  • @mpaulm
    @mpaulm Před 3 lety +166

    The Oilers are doing this right now with McDavid and Draisitle.

    • @Glockodile_Dun-D
      @Glockodile_Dun-D Před 3 lety +2

      The Sabres do it too

    • @ashishnegi3948
      @ashishnegi3948 Před 3 lety +13

      Atleast the Oilers make the playoffs

    • @ashishnegi3948
      @ashishnegi3948 Před 3 lety +1

      The angels are staight up shit

    • @mpaulm
      @mpaulm Před 3 lety +5

      @@ashishnegi3948 Only twice since 2006 despite 5 number #1 picks.

    • @pinkoandthebrain5719
      @pinkoandthebrain5719 Před 3 lety +18

      For non-hockey fans:
      - Connor McDavid is the Mike Trout of hockey: the best player of his generation, and on pace to retire as one of the best players ever. At 24 years old, McDavid just led the NHL in scoring for the 3rd time, and he is a heavy favorite to win his 2nd MVP award.
      - Leon Draisaitl is the reigning NHL MVP and (barring a career-ruining injury) a surefire Hall of Famer. Over the last 5 seasons, Draisaitl is 2nd (behind only McDavid) in total point-scoring.
      - This season, McDavid and Draisaitl lapped the field in terms of scoring. McDavid led the league with 105 points and Draisaitl was 2nd with 84. After those two, the next-highest scorer recorded only 69 points.
      - McDavid and Draisaitl have made the playoffs twice, winning a total of 7 games. It's not nearly as egregious as the Angels' lack of success, but (unlike Trout and Ohtani) McDavid and Draisaitl are almost the same age and have spent their entire careers together. This is the Angels' first season of healthy, prime-level Trout/Ohtani, but the Oilers have been squandering the McDavid/Draisaitl combo for years.

  • @jimsinclair2439
    @jimsinclair2439 Před 3 lety +9

    One parallel to this situation could be the Chicago Bears in the late 1960s. The Bears had Gale Sayers at Running Back and Dick Butkus at Linebacker. Two generational talents and are still looked at today as two of the best to ever play their positions. The bears did not make the playoffs with either of them

    • @sheawhitey5009
      @sheawhitey5009 Před 10 měsíci

      Thank GOD THE 85 BEARS WON SUPERBOWL 20 AND GOT THE LATE GREAT WALTER PAYTON HIS RING.
      ( BIGGEST FAULT DITKA MADE WAS NOT GETTING SWEETNESS HIS TD)

  • @ScheperOfFire
    @ScheperOfFire Před 2 lety

    Coming from an individual that doesn't care much for baseball and only watching Jomboy's entertaining recaps, this video is put together well and kept me intrigued. Well done!

  • @sammehlberg6664
    @sammehlberg6664 Před 3 lety +20

    This reminds me of Angels in the outfield....I think we all know what they need to do to win.

  • @whoremoans
    @whoremoans Před 3 lety +26

    The Ichiro era mariners also had Felix Hernandez.

    • @my2l
      @my2l Před 3 lety +1

      their primes only overlapped for like 2 years, ichiro started his decline in 2011 and left in 2012. Felix had a few good season after 2012. In 2010 they both had good seasons but the M's lost 101 games...

  • @botchjones1130
    @botchjones1130 Před 2 lety

    Watching this in 4/22, great video

  • @rickmannyrodriguez
    @rickmannyrodriguez Před 3 lety

    amazing video man

  • @dougfisher6017
    @dougfisher6017 Před 2 lety +12

    To be fair, there’s a lot of time for Ohtani, and Trout to be even better.
    Hoping to see them become more legendary than they already are over the rest of their careers.

    • @brandocalrissian3294
      @brandocalrissian3294 Před 9 měsíci

      And never make the playoffs. That's a wasted career. Ohtani will be in Dodger blue in 2024 and Mike trout is a moron for staying loyal to artie Moreno.

  • @swaggybichette8524
    @swaggybichette8524 Před 3 lety +37

    It will never be as bad as the mariners wasting Felix's career..... When he was loyal as F to the M's

  • @diondavis1407
    @diondavis1407 Před 2 lety

    The incredible montage was flamesss

  • @OhanaRVing
    @OhanaRVing Před 2 lety

    Great video!

  • @dustinbarnes778
    @dustinbarnes778 Před 2 lety +8

    I have always felt the Cardinals have been the most consistent organization for building a winning team no matter what. They have great player development and never get stuck in signing large wasteful contracts. Plus, Ohtani and Trout both have had their chances at signing with a winning franchise. They just chose not too. Them two are a rare breed.

  • @jah2827
    @jah2827 Před 3 lety +76

    I can’t think of a team that’s been worse than the angels when it comes to signing free agents. There owners are Wilpon level the way they give out these dumb contracts.

  • @campbellmagrane1739
    @campbellmagrane1739 Před 3 lety

    god i love your vids, keep it up!!!

  • @coryzillmann
    @coryzillmann Před 3 lety

    i have been thinking about Mike Trout in that way for a few years now
    very glad it has now been addressed at this analysis depth

  • @jordancivic96
    @jordancivic96 Před 3 lety +21

    Not as high profile, but the Blue Jays wasted the primes of both Carlos Delgado and Roy Halladay

    • @siddithers5356
      @siddithers5356 Před 3 lety +2

      Concerned that the same might be happening with Vladdy

  • @rowdyboys951
    @rowdyboys951 Před 3 lety +11

    Shohei Ohtani could be the next Babe Ruth but hopefully he’ll have a title to his name

  • @clintheistwood
    @clintheistwood Před 3 lety

    im a brand new angels fan through Ohtani joining the team and I’ve got a good feeling about this current lineup. The main issue with the angels right now is their bullpen, the Angels are very capable of run support for their starters but their bullpen struggles night in night out if they dont get 6+ from their starters. I’m hopeful for the team! and the Ohtani Show has been an awesome ride to follow. Loved the video!

  • @witgiz2868
    @witgiz2868 Před 3 lety

    excellent video, great work. this reminded me of a secret base/foolish baseball video. i would love to see longer form content like this more often

  • @huron3871
    @huron3871 Před 3 lety +51

    Ohtani's journey to the majors was unconventional. Usually Japanese players play however many years over there before their free agency (similar to how team control works in the MLB) before being shopped abroad. Ohtani asked his Japanese team to allow him to go to the States earlier just cause he thought he could do well there and they allowed it. Thus, he would earn the league minimum in the MLB and start from scratch. Every team wanted him so they all threw him their pitch, and after he announced that he'd join the Angels he revealed why.
    1 - He wanted to play in the American League so he could DH (obvious)
    2 - He wanted to play on the West Coast to be closer to Japan (understandable)
    3 - He didn't want to play on a team that already had a Japanese icon (meaning no Mariners (Ichiro) and arguably no Rangers (Darvish and that isn't really West Coast anyway))
    So that leaves only the Angels and the A's....he would have been a perfect Athletic, absolutely perfect. It would have given the club the boost they needed to be true contenders and as he'd be under team control for however many years, an excellent Beane-esque signing....
    I'm assuming he chose the Angels for the city of LA, that the Angels are more prestigious than the lowly (cough) A's, and idk if he really cares about winning as much as marketing his brand. Ichiro is Elvis in Japan. Every old person there knows about the Mariners. Think he wanted his 'team' to be more....presentable. But damn if only he wanted to win more, how awesome that would have been...

    • @eilois
      @eilois Před 3 lety

      Bring him to Oakland?

    • @eilois
      @eilois Před 3 lety +2

      Ohtani isn't a material person like, ehm, you. His salary goes to his manager and all he did is practice without playing around so LA aren't good for him. Remember pitcher who drugs?
      The only reason he goes to LA is Oakland wouldn't give him more money and his manager know it better. They understand Ohtani is good enough to play and then choose where to stay where he can spend all of the money.
      And Athletics is pretty much antagonized especially during Ichiro Mariner era in Japan, so probably just go to LA since his senpai is in Rangers previously.

    • @mockingslur6945
      @mockingslur6945 Před 3 lety

      At least you guy’s have a movie about your gm and not about your team being a spring board for the rest of the league. I’m an Astro’s fan, and yes I get the asterisk on their championship, but when the Angel’s got this guy I was legit scared that they got the talent to win the league a few time’s. Do you understand why they just don’t win? I can’t figure it out. Our team’s are in the same division.

    • @my2l
      @my2l Před 3 lety

      ohtani never considered the A's tbh, his finalists actually included a few NL teams. As a mariner fan it's sad to see him go to a division rival.

    • @MarkSkrzypczak
      @MarkSkrzypczak Před 2 lety

      Ohtani's free agency was frustrating to follow. Every contender was in on him and was willing to pay him. After visiting a couple of teams and executives, he gives his demands, and the Angels were the only fit.

  • @ksan3409
    @ksan3409 Před 3 lety +4

    Let's not forget that Trout could've easily transferred to any contender team in MLB with probably more than 500M deal, but he instead chose to stay in Anaheim. It could have been the biggest transfer saga after "the decision". You just can't say "Oh, Trout is stuck with a terrible team. What a tragedy."

    • @mikayocc
      @mikayocc Před 3 lety +1

      Yup, he's a big boy and made a $400 million + decision. He'll be fine. :)

  • @andrewahmadi6709
    @andrewahmadi6709 Před 3 lety

    This video was excellent thank you so much. When the angels won the World Series in 2002 my mom said “enjoy it, it’ll probably never happen again.” Boy was that unexpectedly prophetic lol. I too, ultimately hope we are wrong and that the angles can figure it out.

  • @playingonapotato6089
    @playingonapotato6089 Před 3 lety

    These front office criminals need to be stopped; great video highlighting this ongoing tragedy

  • @jeffa3316
    @jeffa3316 Před 3 lety +3

    That clip from “the show” of the dude screaming “I can’t fuckin compete” is hilarious!!!

  • @barrrymccokinner9262
    @barrrymccokinner9262 Před 3 lety +5

    “I can’t fucking compete!” Got me so good XD

  • @user1raf
    @user1raf Před 3 lety +1

    Loved the incredibles music in the background.

  • @dailymeme6476
    @dailymeme6476 Před 2 lety

    What an awesome video

  • @sammehlberg6664
    @sammehlberg6664 Před 3 lety +11

    Damn....the Mariners wasted those big 4 all at once

    • @my2l
      @my2l Před 3 lety +1

      4 bugattis parked next to a mobile home...

  • @gabingston3430
    @gabingston3430 Před 2 lety +3

    13:11 That's the exact comparison I was thinking of. Calvin Johnson was a beast playing for Lions teams that ranged from average to abysmal (they did make the playoffs a few times in Calvin's career, but I'm sure much of that can be attributed to Calvin and to a lesser extent Matt Stafford).

  • @elo2476
    @elo2476 Před 3 lety

    Oh I already know I’m gonna really enjoy this video. Thanks for making this. Only 1:19 in lol

  • @robbyschroeder1871
    @robbyschroeder1871 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic video! I enjoyed it and you remind me of Foolish Baseball!

  • @grass228
    @grass228 Před 3 lety +9

    The lions team with Calvin Johnson had 2 superstars Matt Stafford was also on the team and has some of the best stats he also got out of Detroit

  • @microsoftspam
    @microsoftspam Před 2 lety +3

    The thing to keep in mind about those Cubs 50s/60s teams is that there wasn't even a playoff, you had to win the pennant in the regular season - thats like the two NFC/AFC teams with the best record automatically going to the Superbowl, it was really hard . Cubs almost did it in 1969 too.

  • @bruh-xc9ru
    @bruh-xc9ru Před 3 lety

    i love the incredibles/contract bit with the music

  • @Lionlover666
    @Lionlover666 Před rokem

    I feel all of your pain as an angels fan. I wish we could do something with them but arte is just holding us back. But seeing what we've done this off season I have some joy for the future. Also yes I hate the fact that we're called the Los Angeles Angels of Anahiem. I honestly want it to go back to the Anaheim Angels. Because we're not LA.

  • @king_supreme1102
    @king_supreme1102 Před 2 lety +5

    If I were managing the angels I would Invest HEAVILY in your player development and scouting. Secondly, the only players I would be handing big contracts to is their core. That being Trout, Ohtani, Rendon, and Adell depending on how he ends up. But they all seem to be under contract for a while so that step is already done. I’d throw a decent amount of money at a really good starting pitcher too. Obviously they need it. A few medium-ish sized deals for pitching depth and bullpen reinforcement.
    Outside of the core + a couple good supporting pieces. I’d be going full Tampa Bay Rays mode. Get rid of all the bad contracts and play money ball with the rest of the roster. Get effective players for a bargain price. If some don’t work out… well, it’s still better than their old strategy of throwing big money at players who suck for them. Then you just rely on your investment in your farm system to pay off. Good pieces coming from there can supplement their core, and if any have some high trade value you can trade them off for additional good pieces.

  • @bendalgliesh2866
    @bendalgliesh2866 Před 3 lety +14

    There isnt a modern comparison to shohei. Thats just a fact. I'm just glad I'm here to see it.

    • @TheJonesmonster55
      @TheJonesmonster55 Před 3 lety

      I love ohtani but let’s be real his value as a 2 way player isn’t there.... he is a DH that can pitch above average *every fifth game* also let’s be real he isn’t gonna be a pitcher much longer cuz he can’t stay healthy

    • @conormcmullin4235
      @conormcmullin4235 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheJonesmonster55 I have my doubts about ohtani to but he’s got a sub 3 era through like 11 starts he’s definitely a great pitcher

  • @rorynell4962
    @rorynell4962 Před 2 lety

    I have hope for this season!

  • @benxenos9875
    @benxenos9875 Před 2 lety

    A shout from the NBA:
    Tmac and Yao- both top 7ish players for about 5 years, zero career playoff series wins combined while on the same team the entire time. Neither were ever considered the best like trout, but Tmac was in that top 3 discussion for all of his prime, while Yao was the most gifted player in NBA history who injuries turned into maybe a top 15ish player for his era. With that said, he SHOULD have been a top 3 player as well, purely speaking on talent. Great vid!!!

    • @dwaynekeenum1916
      @dwaynekeenum1916 Před 2 lety

      Yao wasn’t top 7 lol he was a fringe all star like top 20 or so not a superstar MVP candidate

  • @gregjrlobo6517
    @gregjrlobo6517 Před 3 lety +9

    You got through this whole thing and this whole search without mentioning that Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl have won one playoff series.

  • @tatsuyaarai6029
    @tatsuyaarai6029 Před 3 lety +27

    There are two types of teams. Some are going for championship and others are going to find a way to make money. Angels found a way to make money by having star players. Regardless of standings, the team can sell tickets and t shirts

    • @strudel1347
      @strudel1347 Před 2 lety

      meh. if thats your goal as a team in a competitive sport, you dont deserve a spot on the list of teams

  • @KPKsportsperformance
    @KPKsportsperformance Před 2 lety

    As an angels fan I like this video, but also frustrates me. I like it because you are completely correct and what that is what frustrates me. Honestly you can probably do a better job at fixing this train wreck of an organization than our front office. Love the video from a frustrated Angel fan!

  • @PapaPhagJennaTolls
    @PapaPhagJennaTolls Před 3 lety

    Matt, youre the best

  • @tjon901
    @tjon901 Před 3 lety +8

    Ive heard front office people dont want to go there because Artie meddles so much. They have had so many first time GM's because no one who has done the job is willing to work for them.

  • @tynolin8397
    @tynolin8397 Před 3 lety +47

    1:53 so we’re just gonna pretend like DeGrom isn’t hitting .400

    • @diemrcupcake
      @diemrcupcake Před 3 lety +15

      How many of those have an exit velo of over 100mph? He also has far less at bats and 0 Hr this season.

    • @n00btype
      @n00btype Před 3 lety +27

      He mentioned DeGrom at 3:32, but let's be real here, DeGrom isn't slugging 600 like Ohtani is and he is actually improving with Trout out. In June's 8 games so far he is averaging .292 with a OBP of .485 and slugging .708. Again, without Trout.

    • @jakemodesti5333
      @jakemodesti5333 Před 3 lety +2

      @@diemrcupcake
      The joke
      ^
      You

    • @diemrcupcake
      @diemrcupcake Před 3 lety +9

      @@jakemodesti5333 jokes are meant to be funny. Sorry sarcasm does convey on the internet.

    • @cocohotheatclips8264
      @cocohotheatclips8264 Před 3 lety +6

      Degrom isnt blasting homeruns like ohtani

  • @holybible5157
    @holybible5157 Před 2 lety

    I didn’t think I’d get depressed from your video damn

  • @-snowy-726
    @-snowy-726 Před 2 lety

    I've never really thought about using the angles in mlb the show 21 but now I have too

  • @ryansoltner5229
    @ryansoltner5229 Před 3 lety +34

    The Phillies are the angels of the east 😞

    • @ColtMcCoy28
      @ColtMcCoy28 Před 3 lety +1

      Excellent observation. Totally agree.

    • @ohkmilk7557
      @ohkmilk7557 Před 3 lety +4

      i hate to agree with you but i have to

  • @coldsnap5742
    @coldsnap5742 Před 3 lety +4

    "Who can forget superstar Cap Anson besides...everybody?"
    The man that invented Spring Training? No, I did not forget.

    • @-BigMike-
      @-BigMike- Před 3 lety

      I have an old Cap Anson card, so I remember too! 👍

    • @donwhiteley3293
      @donwhiteley3293 Před 3 lety +1

      First player to collect 3000 H and 2000 RBI? I didn't forget either.

  • @jackfrankenfield7407
    @jackfrankenfield7407 Před 3 lety

    I am an angels fan and this just recaps all the pain over the last 10 years

  • @diegorosario6888
    @diegorosario6888 Před 2 lety +1

    “Like a lunatic stockpiling gasoline in plastic bags” killed me

  • @andrewdzierwa1270
    @andrewdzierwa1270 Před 3 lety +8

    You can include Stafford with megaton on that wasted career by management perfect comparison

    • @colonless7512
      @colonless7512 Před 3 lety +3

      I’m excited to see how he does in L.A. he’s a top tier arm talent

  • @Penguinsfan-xw8nd
    @Penguinsfan-xw8nd Před 3 lety +6

    A team that might fit the angles situation is the Edmonton Oilers of the NHL and Connor McDavid. McDavid is probably the best player the sports ever seen and might be the best athlete in sports right now. He also has another top 5 player next to him but the problem is they can make the playoffs. But, every time they do they almost always disappoint as they were swept this year in the first round after McDavid put up one of the best seasons in the last couple decades. The Oilers consistently fail to put up winning teams around one of the best players ever

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Před 2 lety

    I’ve come from the future to simultaneously laugh and cry while watching this. It’s maddening!!!! So much talent on that team undone by no pitching….

  • @kravis_6131
    @kravis_6131 Před 3 lety +1

    Can u do a video on rizzo and his battle with cancer

  • @goinghost2434
    @goinghost2434 Před 3 lety +4

    Love the Marvel references! .. This makes me sad being an Angels fan🤧

  • @nickdelaguila6050
    @nickdelaguila6050 Před 3 lety +3

    I’m a Pirates fan, but consider the Angels my second favorite team. I wanted one team who sucks because they never spend money, and another who sucks because they spend SO much money

    • @mikayocc
      @mikayocc Před 3 lety +1

      Oh man, you're a true fan, Nick. :)

  • @coolguyofdarkness789
    @coolguyofdarkness789 Před 3 lety

    Listening to this while rebuilding the Angels on OTTP 22😭

  • @bluescreenfree
    @bluescreenfree Před 3 lety +8

    Pretty simple. Mike chose the money over winning.

    • @CoffeeFresh_
      @CoffeeFresh_ Před 3 lety

      Damn yes. He doesn't seem to give two shots otherwise

    • @wetzel1941
      @wetzel1941 Před 3 lety +3

      If mike wanted money he would’ve gone to a bigger market. Let’s be honest Trout could easily get 500 mil or more if Lindor is getting 340 mil

    • @bluescreenfree
      @bluescreenfree Před 3 lety

      @@wetzel1941 Well he certainly didn’t choose winning by staying with the Angels. If it’s not the money, please tell me what it is then.

    • @upside93
      @upside93 Před 3 lety

      @@wetzel1941 you can't really go to a bigger market than LA, even as the 2nd team.

    • @wetzel1941
      @wetzel1941 Před 3 lety

      @@upside93 Anaheim isn’t really LA. I live in Orange County and it’s completely different

  • @ClaraInstalledAimbot
    @ClaraInstalledAimbot Před 3 lety +6

    Joesph Gordon-Levitt’s dad is never coming for him 😢

  • @jakeloucks1762
    @jakeloucks1762 Před 3 lety +1

    The current Edmonton Oilers of the NHL are probably the closest comparison you can make. Seeing as McDavid is on his way to being easily a top 5-10 player of all time and Draisitl has been top 5 in league scoring three straight years and won MVP in 2020. This year they got swept in the first round of the playoffs, missed last year, and lost in the first round the year before that and that’s with the NHL allowing 16 teams into the playoff every year. I genuinely understand the magnitude of what both of these guys have done but man 2 MVP’s on the team in the last three years and McDavid is gonna win it again this year I honestly can’t decide which team is more extreme in letting down a pair of hall of fame talents.
    Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

  • @coledoyle9299
    @coledoyle9299 Před 3 lety

    Angel fan for 15 years and couldn’t agree more with this video

  • @circlethewagons9454
    @circlethewagons9454 Před 3 lety +3

    As an Angels fan….yes.

  • @spencergraham-thille9896
    @spencergraham-thille9896 Před 3 lety +7

    Aren't Trout and Ohtani wasting their careers by agreeing to sign with the Angels?

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před 3 lety +4

      Money makes the world go round.

    • @alexandrovazquez9536
      @alexandrovazquez9536 Před 2 lety

      Exactly

    • @TheCheesewalrus
      @TheCheesewalrus Před 2 lety

      if they didn't receive pay for not advancing into the post season a person could say they were wasting their career. fact is these guys get paid hundreds of millions over their career. their legacy might be bankrupt but i'd say their doing just fine.

    • @slapshot68
      @slapshot68 Před 2 lety

      @@nerychristian ask some NBA superstars that

  • @markw.schumann297
    @markw.schumann297 Před 3 lety

    12:53 Was there a rule at the time against catching a ball that's about to go over the right field fence?

  • @yoitsdarth
    @yoitsdarth Před 2 lety

    Come back to this video at the end of this 2022 season. Angels are goin all the way this year 🔥

  • @michaelreyes2147
    @michaelreyes2147 Před 3 lety +3

    as a angels fan, we know 😢

  • @richardk54
    @richardk54 Před 3 lety +29

    Trout chose to be there. Therefore he chose playoff irrelevancy.[Edit] Also, brother and I have a conspiracy theory Ohtani was made in a Japanese laboratory.

    • @samuelhuntington7635
      @samuelhuntington7635 Před 3 lety +21

      i think he chose loyalty over playoff irrelevancy, sir. he wants to win with this team.

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před 3 lety +7

      Well, Trout is smart. If he stays with the Angels his entire career, he will have a statue built there and will be known as the greatest player to ever put on an Angels uniform. His name will become synonymous with being an Angel. Similar to how Babe Ruth and Lou Gherig and Mickey Mantel are synonymous with the Yankees organization. Ken Griffey Jr. was a great player, but I always associate his name with the Mariners organization, even after he played with other teams. Sometimes players decline after leaving their home team.

    • @_benjaminyoung_
      @_benjaminyoung_ Před 3 lety

      @@nerychristian I agree, but trout isn’t the type of player to decline, he’s a generational talent. He’ll decline when he’s like 35-36

    • @richardk54
      @richardk54 Před 3 lety +1

      @@nerychristian he could've had that with literally any team. Many argue he's on a path to be the greatest baseball player ever. So him being the best "fill in the blank" would naturally come with that.

    • @richardk54
      @richardk54 Před 3 lety

      @@samuelhuntington7635 how's that going?

  • @MavericNorthcott
    @MavericNorthcott Před 2 lety

    This same this is literally happening at the exact same time in Edmonton with the Oilers!

  • @RHKumagai
    @RHKumagai Před 3 lety

    Man, the ominous The Incredibles background music fits perfectly

  • @drewv1747
    @drewv1747 Před 3 lety +8

    If you’re looking for comparisons in other sports, McDavid is a pretty good comparable. He’s the best player in the NHL and has had virtually no team success. He also has a superstar teammate in Leon Draisaitl.