🎙️ 'With VAR, We'd Have Won! - Lampard & Mikel's Take On 2009 Chelsea vs. Barcelona UCL Semis 👀🔵🏆
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- In a riveting excerpt from Episode 2 of The Obi One Podcast, Frank Lampard joins Mikel to revisit one of the most controversial matches in Champions League history-the semi-final against Barcelona. They dissect Chelsea's superior performance and the refereeing decisions that arguably cost them the final. After securing an early lead and being denied multiple penalty shouts, Chelsea watched their dreams slip away with Barcelona's last-gasp equalizer, which sent them to a final victory over Manchester United.
Mikel asserts that with fair officiating, not only would Chelsea have triumphed in the semi-final, but they also had the strength to overpower Manchester United in the final showdown. Lampard weighs in on the evolution of football justice, speculating that with VAR in play, Chelsea's grievances would have been vindicated, altering the course of football history.
Lampard also praises the passion and character shown by Chelsea's players in the face of such disappointment. Despite subsequent bans, he contends that the referee's oversight was the true injustice deserving of punishment.
This segment offers an intense analysis, with personal insights from two of Chelsea's key players during the heat of one of football's biggest stages. Their conversation sheds light on the impact of technology in football and the enduring question of "what if?"
Explore the full episode for more such insights and untold stories from the annals of football. Subscribe now for more content from the Obi One Podcast, where football legends speak out.
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I watched that game as a Chelsea fan, and I am still full of rage till this very day. That game was stolen from us.
I was there.... will never ever forget or forgive that.
Clear match fixing
Yup couldn’t agree more. That ref wasn’t going to give us anything, is a common refrain but that one was as bent as a donkeys hind leg. Total stroker that cost us a shot at the CL.
Bet you weren't ragging when you were saved in the Camp Nou or when Barcelona got to play in 10 men because reasons. That was fine.
Do you know what happened in the first leg?
Awwww
14 years later and there is still a ongoing investigation into this game with the referee being invited to dinner at Barcelona days before the game took place in London
Bruh, you don't gotta lie man
This game was an absolute disgrace. I remember it well and if that ref wasn’t as bent as a donkeys hind leg I’d be astounded. Still think he’s a tool!
Barcelona played in 10 because of that "paid" ref and was disadvantaged in the home game. So the "robbed" Chelsea got an away goal advantage due to refs and was playing 11 vs 10.
Plus they got a lucky wonder goal that made it impossible for Barcelona.
But after that somehow the ref remembers that he was paid.
But I don't think we needed that, just let us won at home and play 11 vs 11.
For me it doesn't add up.
But I am not surprised because we were accused of robbing Inter after we were massacred in two games by those refs. And the difference was we managed to knock them out despite the masacre but they took Bojan's goal.
So it's hard for a team from Catalunia to have a voice in a world dominated by the Castilian, German, Italian and English media.
I am not saying the penalties were not there, but the narrative is a bit one sided.
@@companyofcules You know Chelsea could've won this game 4-0, right? Regardless of what happened in the 1st leg.
Not to mention the fact that one of the linesmen was wearing Barca shirt just days before the game
This game made me cry and more upset than when we lost the final the year before, injustice, robbery. A disgrace like Drogba said
Do you know what happened in the first leg?
@@lukassoos7597it don’t matter because you know the 2nd leg was rigged as if it wasn’t you probs don’t make the final to win your 3rd CL
I'm not a Chelsea fan but that game was rigged and I would go as far to say Barca were not as good as they were made out to be. Chelsea should have beat them in 2009, then Mourinho's Inter beat them in 2010, so they were not as good as some may say they were
The officials know what they are doing......it was a daylight robbery
ofc i no wonder if barcelona buy the ref
That game still infruitates me when i rewatch
Watch the first leg.
@@lukassoos7597 Chelsea would've still 4-0 barca in the 2nd leg tbh with VAR regardless of what happened in the 1st game
@@georgeallison6528 4-0 are you dumb? How? You really think every penalty would have been in. Btw the red card was also not fair against Barca. And btw in 2012 were occasions where Chelsea was lucky against Barca. So don’t cry.
@@lukassoos7597 Which part? Barcelona 'fans', who all seem to speak perfect English, seem to have rewritten history. The Messi 'handball' he didn't even appeal for it because it was too close. The Henry 'foul', he was already slipping, you can pause the video on the exact moment before he is touched at all and he is already falling backwards after a terrible first touch. The Eto'o onside moment was a mistake, but for some reason it is seen as some sort of inevitability that he would have scored a 1-1 from a position in the box that far from guarantees a goal against the best goalkeeper in the world. But, if you want to say Barcelona should have won the first leg 1-0, then fine, Chelsea should have won the second 5-1.
What is your defense for Busquets dive against Inter Milan in 2010 and van Persie's red card at the Nou Camp in 2011? Remember that this is the same Barcelona that are being investigated for bribing referees in Spain for almost two decades - were they so polite to their European counterparts that they didn't do that in Europe?
Obi first time seen this channel love ur energy and a lot of kids can get so much inspiration from u keep it up brother get essien on❤️❤️❤️
The handballs by Pique and Eto'o were stonewall, as was the foul by Abidal on Drogba, who should also have been sent off as he was last man (15 minutes before he actually was). With VAR, the Alves foul on Malouda also would have been given because the foul took place inside the box, although that may have been slightly harsh to give.
The 2010/11 Barcelona team was incredible (although they needed a disgrace of a red card to get past a poor Arsenal side), but I really don't agree with people when they say this 2008/09 team was up there with them, after all, if the referee made the correct decisions, Chelsea may have ended up beating them 5-1.
In 2009/10, against Internazionale they were also gifted a ridiculous 11 vs 10 situation for most of the game at the Nou Camp when Busquets dived to get Thiago Motta sent off. Something about that period really doesn't sit right, especially considering what we know now about their historical bribing of refs in domestic football - there's no reason they wouldn't have done the same in Europe.
As a Man Utd fan when Iniesta scored, I knew we were finished for the final. The referees who sent off Darren Fletcher and cost Chelsea the win had a huge impact in 2009 CL final. It should have been Man Utd vs Chelsea with Darren Fletcher playing.
Im a manchester united fan and even im still raging about this match back in 09
With all the recent revelations about Barca... wont be surprised if Ovrebo was on their payroll 💰
barca can do whatever they want, including getting into big debt and give messi illegal human growth hormones, its too big to fail
Most clear game of football to show corruption ive ever seen
John absolutely loved you at Middlesbrough for that short stint you where a cracking player
It was the day I finally realized how corrupt Uefa n FIFA are. It still the biggest rubbery in the history of soccer. Even my 2 years old daughter would’ve given at least 3 PK’s in that game.
Drogba was real guy, that referee was crazy and barcelona always struggles against Chelsea and they couldn't handle it...
One of the reasons why I absolutely hate Barcelona till tomorrow😤
100% .. Tiki Taki freakin' Bullshit!
Funny how Pep's legacy literally kicked off that year..first year..sure they had already bagged La liga and the cup...but that UCL really sealed it for him...propelled him to same conversations as Fergie , Wenger , Mourinho..!..That semi literally shaped a lot of what came in near future!
Not a Chelsea fan but the refereeing for that game truly made a credible claim for corruption in the game. 1 or 2 decisions to not go your way is one thing but this game was criminal
“I don’t have a structure behind me”- Jose Mourihno on Barcelona and Pep years later FFP rules still don’t apply for them
As a Chelsea fan, i believe the allegations about Barca and refs, even if they rent found guilty. Good lawyers are good because they know how to defend a criminal and make him look innocent. This game here was clear as day that something as off
Well, we paid the refs to play in 10 men and to help Chelsea on Camp Nou. We are guilty.
That game was the start of the UEFA Messi partnership
I still have difficulty watching or talking about that game. It’s very simple, corrupt Platini and Uefa did not want another Man U-Chelsea all English final in back to back years. That 2009 trophy should have an asterisk attached because Chelsea were blatantly robbed by a corrupt referee in cahoots with higher ups at uefa. There should’ve been criminal investigations into that game.
Do you have any sources? People make mistakes you i****.
That game is why I am a Chelsea fan today . 💙
I lost it as a Chelsea fan that night, I could not eat or sleep. Lost a bet to my cousin because I had it in every fiber of my being that we were winning. As a Ghanaian, Michael Essien's goal was the icing on the cake and after that robbery, I stopped watching the Champions League completely. So even in 2012 when Chelsea was playing the final, I could not bring myself to watch the game. Something really died in me on the night of the 2009 Semis. We had a television set in the house but I watched it on the street and I can tell you that I have still not recovered from that pain of injustice meted to me as a young Chelsea fan. We bleed blue and when we were cheated, it was like my gall bladder just burst and my bile got mixed with my blood! I could feel the bittereness!
I STOPPED WATCHING FOR A WHILE AFTER THIS GAME...HEARTBROKEN!!😢😢
If there was VAR, the first leg Barcelona was going to win 2-0. Clear goal cancelled, penalty on Henry not given, red card for Ballack not given. The second leg Drogba's kick into Pique's stomach, the red card on Abidal there was contact on Anelka. The tie wasn't only bad on one side, Barcelona got calls against them too
As a man united fan I'd much rather we played Chelsea in that final, goddamn
The Referee get luck, him no come Port Harcourt that year, him for collect Weller.
I swear 😅
😂 I agree
I'm not a Chelsea fan. But that match infuriates me till this day.
I hate how the outcome that night and how the game eventually panned out completely made people forget how incredible that essien goal was. That goal isn't talked about often. Weaker foot volley from that far out, you're kidding me man
At any point did you think the game was fixed? Let’s talk about that refereeing
As a gunner,06 final and this game bore my hatred for referelona
That game was a mugging, im a United fan and hated Chelsea, really took pleasure in them losing, but at end of this game even i was fuming.
Im a big boxing fan and this sort of shaninghans happen in boxing all the time, but this game was only time I've seen it in football.
Mikel your accent is on point....I greet you Bros
Lamps might not remember but that second leg was his best performance ever in a Chelsea shirt lol.
Barca had no shot on target that game and messi was missing all through.
Barca definitely rigged that tie..
goes back to 05 second leg vs Shevchenko when he had his clean header disallowed for a phantom foul on Puyol.
Lastly, utd fan here but for some reason, i always thought that Chelsea side were england’s best team in europe.
United never had the personnel to go against Pep.
with a normal ref they would have won
We got our revenge 3 years later
why does no one talk about the first leg ? where the opposite happened ?
Come on now. At Camp Nou Ballack should have been sent off and Henry should have had a penalty awarded. And the second leg, Abidal shouldn’t have been sent off. Over two games, Chelsea had their share of favourable calls.
Chelsea deserved this game i remember it like yesterday
Similar to wc02 korea v italia
Uefalona
This is why when Chelsea knock Barca out in the semifinal of 2012, every single fans other than barca fans celebrated for chelsea that day. I remember even Arsenal and spurs fans celebrated for chelsea back then because of the shameful display by Ovrebo in 2009.
I was watching from north eastern part of Kenya garissa I remember how upset I was.y should UEFA did this.becuse if I was on the filled I will have beten that quack reff.
I would not sleeping infact I slept on the floor without knowing.
Horrible UEFA should have suspended the reff.and order a rept.injustice injustice no fair play I can't forgive that reff
The fact it was soooo unfair seem soo not right am still mad today
We should have won that game.
And then gotten our revenge on Manutd for 2008 in the final.
we desereve to win this game and didnt..however we did not deserve to win the 2012 UCL and we did..its just how football can be
UEFA wanted bac to qualify because of UNICEF business
It would have been a repeat final again which would have been brillant but uefalona to the rescue as usual
They couldn’t let us have back to back finals with Utd. Football is corrupt and that game even though I was still in secondary school at the time I knew it wasn’t right
I watch the match it was horror to see
But Barca played with 10 men here, Eric Abidal was sent off, and in the first Leg Bosingwa's clear 9th minute foul on Henry was a penalty in the 74th minute but was not Given, Ballack double foot tackle after earning a yellow card was also denied by the ref czcams.com/video/z9TDAXhLWI8/video.html when things dont go your way don't cry, it was a balanced game with the first leg.
Casuals didn't watch the First leg cus Chelsea should have had players sent off and Abidal's red card was absolutely bonkers
Does not excuse the 2nd leg
In those years Liverpool ruined chehsea's golden time.
The 150 IQ claim connot be carried given his only decent verbal fluency.
That doesn't matter of course - 200 IQ player.
Watching the First leg it. this was not a Big robbery as everyone says. Watch the first leg where several Chelsea players should of been sent of or booked you would see for yourselves.
What about the first leg and all the calls Chelsea got?
Nobody talks about the outrageous Abidal red card. I'm not going to justify the officials, but with an unfair man advantage at home, you don't need a penalty to win the match.
Well, 3 penalties alright.
But Barcelona got a red card early that wasn't and in the home game Chelsea was advantaged as well.
But if you take only the mistakes after the red card then you can claim Chelsea was robbed.
So I don't think it was intentional on the ref, he just lost it, probably because Anelka forced his hand and the free red card.
I think Inter-Barcelona and Barcelona-Inter was the only encounter that there was something intentional, but we don't have the giant tabloids in Catalunia so it went unnoticed.
With VAR, Ballack would have been sent off in the first leg, and Barca would have scored after some terrible offside calls, all these idiots forget how much Chelsea got favoured in the first leg, oh and it was never a red card for Abidal in the 2nd leg, VAR would have overturned that as well. If Chelsea were so good and deserved to go through they should have scored more than 1 goal in 180 minutes.
Exactly... The wrong calls were 50-50
You know you are just being stupid when you compare 2 handballs in the box, and 3 clear fouls in the penalty area with one decision against Barcelona. If the ref overturn Abidal’s red card it was still going to be 0-0 at the Camp Nou. But 4 to 5 clear penalty decisions at the Bridge would have given Chelsea at lead 3 goal cushion. So when you say they scored one goal in 180 mins, I’m wondering what Barca was doing from the first minute of the first leg till the 180th minute of the 2nd leg. Scoring goals? Or spent it pulling shirts of the team who was clearly through on goal to score, handling the ball in areas they shouldn’t and putting in tackles no one does in the 18 yard with the knowledge that the ref might be in their favour. How dare you come here and spit trash. Even the ref’s career ended after the game for a reason. How do you ‘score’ when the opposition keep fouling you and the ref does nothing! Except hit it from outside the box again like Essien did.
@@abdulrahmonkanimodo3844😂😂. When did blocking a free kick with your arm raised above you a 50-50 call. Pique blocked a pass from getting to the striker. Stretched out his arms like a basketball player would and that 50-50 😂. Even Pique kept looking at the linesman and was surprised he got away with it. Just like the host said, the body language of the players tells you all you need to know.
@Kungam, who are the idiots, Lampard, Mikel, and Chris?
@@diligenceeke3023 all the english football casuals who didn’t seem to watch the first leg.
Just to reminder you all that Barca finished with 70% possession and Abidal was sent of for nothing. The ref was terrible for both sides and in both legs. Nobody cries about the Chelsea robbery of Barca previously under Mourinho where Stevie Wonder would have seen Carvalho pulling Valdes into the goal for Terrys header. Get over it.