John Obi Mikel settles the age old Messi vs. Ronaldo debate | Taking The Mikel - The Obi One Podcast

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  • After being criticised for previous comments about Cristiano Ronaldo, John Obi Mikel sets the record straight. And he’s not a man for turning as he wades into the age old CR7 v Lionel Messi debate. 👀
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  • @chukwuemekaigbani7070
    @chukwuemekaigbani7070 Před 5 měsíci +50

    Obi shared a Pitch with both guys at the highest level, And he gives an Opinion, kids who haven't played in amateur competitions are making noise

    • @Shineshinebobo01
      @Shineshinebobo01 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Bro you're a GOAT🤣🤣🤣

    • @chukwuemekaigbani7070
      @chukwuemekaigbani7070 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Shineshinebobo01
      Aren't we all

    • @wc899
      @wc899 Před 3 měsíci

      That's' your opinion, and you haven't played any competition too

    • @zakariadjouzi660
      @zakariadjouzi660 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@wc899but he's not crying on Obe calling Messi thé GOAT you deluded Ronaldo fans are Lmfaooooooooooooooooooo

  • @finandagames4762
    @finandagames4762 Před 5 měsíci +19

    It's true what Mbappe said. If you love Ronaldo too much, you won't see the greatness of Lionel Messi

  • @LiamsFriendStewie
    @LiamsFriendStewie Před 5 měsíci +19

    The Messi x Ronaldo debate is now a footballing IQ test for me. If you're NOT Portuguese or a Lisbon/United/Madrid/Juve fan and you think Ronaldo is better than Messi, then I no longer want to debate football with you because you don't 'get' football. If you ARE Portuguese/Lisbon/United/Madrid/Juve fan and you think Ronaldo is better.. then it makes sense.

    • @ubaidmalik2517
      @ubaidmalik2517 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Many people started supporting those teams because of Ronaldo 💀 your point makes zero sense alot of young players idolise Ronaldo including Mbappe you think they don’t know ball 😭

    • @therodian96
      @therodian96 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@ubaidmalik2517 Not only Mbappe, in fact many of the young players on top of their game at the moment grew up idolising Ronaldo. Incredible arrogance in that comment, saying anyone who sees Ronaldo as the Goat has no ball knowledge. I'm neither Portuguese nor a fan of any of these teams and in my opinion Ronaldo is the Goat, but I would never think of discrediting someone who disagrees with me like that. Ignorant and childish behaviour.

    • @zakariadjouzi660
      @zakariadjouzi660 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ubaidmalik2517all those teams were huge way before Ronaldo even joined them or before hé was even born unlike Barcelona before Messi

    • @puff6033
      @puff6033 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@ubaidmalik2517Yes Mbappe idolizes Ronaldo but he will tell you that Messi is the best....know the difference between those two words

    • @mem5860
      @mem5860 Před měsícem

      ​@@therodian96why he is The goat, whatbis your argument?

  • @dfacademy
    @dfacademy Před 5 měsíci +26

    Everybody has different opinions. Messi is my favorite too. He's extremely talented when you watch him play. Watch him without sentiment and you will see the resson why people say he's the GOAT. I respect CR7, he's a beast too.

    • @rockfelraymond6257
      @rockfelraymond6257 Před 5 měsíci +3

      even people have tried to compare them in terms of trophies but i try to ignore that that coz wining a trophy is a team effort though sometimes some individuals can determine the outcomes of most of those games but when talking INDIVIDUAL brilliancy on the pitch??
      I dont think there is any footballer close to Messi, the passes, the goals, assists or vision& creativity, doing the unexpected, the goals even just the touch on the ball alone(ball control), the ballance even just merely winning the ball from him is almost impossible of which the best players do is foul him or u let him run past you
      Most players can have either half or less of these qualities but theiy are considered the best in their positions but Messi is like a number 9,10,11 i mean coz of the free role its not easy to understand that man
      I JUST FEAR HIM I DONT KNOW IF HE CAN BE MARKED BY THE GREATEST DEFENDER MAYBE YOU NEED 2

    • @mohamednayad
      @mohamednayad Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​​@@rockfelraymond6257 💯 Exactly totally agree 👍

  • @John-cj9er
    @John-cj9er Před 5 měsíci +38

    Who’s the greater goalscorer is a debate, who the greater player isn’t a debate

    • @RedDevilSkillz
      @RedDevilSkillz Před 5 měsíci

      not really much of a debate. Goal scorer maybe but Messi is severely ahead in finishing in terms of statistics. Goal scoring he is also ahead but not by as much

    • @John-cj9er
      @John-cj9er Před 5 měsíci +9

      @@RedDevilSkillz Exactly. And u think how many times Messi would square to a teammate in a better position compared to CR7

    • @ElDragow
      @ElDragow Před 5 měsíci

      It’s Ronaldo

    • @ElDragow
      @ElDragow Před 5 měsíci

      @@RedDevilSkillzhe isn’t. Dwarf scored 6 goals in a farmers league.

    • @BBB-ajajaj
      @BBB-ajajaj Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ElDragowMessi scores much more outside the box. More freekicks and he needs less oportunities. CR7 is better in the box, better with Header and better at penaltys. Messi scores all 103 min in hes Carrier and CR7 all 113. but for myself it isnt a debate about dribbling playmaking passing assisting and creativity.

  • @rockfelraymond6257
    @rockfelraymond6257 Před 5 měsíci +4

    ronaldo fans know the truth they are just living in denial almost 80% of the polls organised whether by BBC or aESPN etc will see messi victorious even if its done on a night when ronaldo scores a hatrick
    everyone who watches football knows what messi does on the pitch is very unbelievable, ofcourse ronaldo fans try to bring hardwork, goals etc but when we are discussing football we discuss it objectively not feelings that am a madrid fan or manchester united fan

  • @BluesFanUK_
    @BluesFanUK_ Před 5 měsíci +18

    Not even close either, Messi's on a whole other level. It's statistics that seems to drive these debates, and pinning Messi down to stats is fucking stupidity.

    • @ayooye3k
      @ayooye3k Před 5 měsíci +2

      I wish i could like your comment a million times

    • @RedDevilSkillz
      @RedDevilSkillz Před 5 měsíci +3

      Stats have Messi heavily heavily in favour anyway. Go look at per 90 stats, Messi dominates it ALL

    • @pn074
      @pn074 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Your opinion just like chelsea are trash.

  • @lipinaries
    @lipinaries Před 5 měsíci +8

    Messi is the greatest of all time fullstop...But if I want to show my kid to model and learn from the best footballer then its Cristiano..... Messi is def from a different planet ....

  • @anekstar3027
    @anekstar3027 Před 5 měsíci +8

    For me obi knew messi very early in his playing days starting from world youth championship Nigeria vs Argentina. Messi was something else, if not bcus of messi Nigeria would have won that cup, though i wont forget that bias call from the refree given Argentina cheap penalty.

    • @tadiyahfraser
      @tadiyahfraser Před 5 měsíci

      "Biased called by ref to give a Argentina a pen" ... Messi didn't win the game the referee did

    • @ebukskov
      @ebukskov Před 5 měsíci +1

      No, it's not biased. I thought so too in 2005. However, after rewatched the game in 2023. I can clearly see that we were just so emotional. It was a clear penalty and a careless tackle by players like Taye Taiwo and co in the 18 yard box.

  • @paulboluwatifeabi9588
    @paulboluwatifeabi9588 Před 5 měsíci +7

    yes, ashley cole tackled him alone but he still did scored goals against chelsea more than messi did and don't say he played in the premier league thats why, the only time chelsea met ronaldo in the champions league he scored and it took messi more than once before he did. i appreciate your opinion mikel buh i think y'all did underrate ronaldo and was just scared of messi, i mean even you was always scared and kept kicking his leg, and when he goes down the referee blows immediately buh when ronaldo does they'd wave the play on hand sign... so yes whatever he achieved he earned it.
    You are from Nigeria, Africa you should know how it feels coming from that type of life he lived to every club and individual trophies he has earned.

    • @michaelaniefiok2592
      @michaelaniefiok2592 Před 5 měsíci +6

      It’s clear you don’t have their stats… Ronaldo in all his career and his 8years in Premier League across two spells, only scored once against Chelsea. Messi has 3 goals against Chelsea despite only facing them in the UCL

    • @paulboluwatifeabi9588
      @paulboluwatifeabi9588 Před 5 měsíci

      it's clear you don't
      he scored in his first season on his second spell at united when we(chelsea) played 1-1 with alonso opening the scoresheet
      he scored a header also in his first spell at united in the 2008 ucl final, a free-kick in the 2013/14 season vs madrid not to talk of goals in the league cup and all he has atleast 12+ goals vs chelsea. so its you who don't have their stats cos i could remember when we chelsea fans bragged alot 'bout messi never scoring against cech until he did cech conceded just 1 or 2 i guess until courtois did @@michaelaniefiok2592

    • @paulboluwatifeabi9588
      @paulboluwatifeabi9588 Před 5 měsíci

      now checking the stats again he never did scored against chelsea until 2018 and that was against courtois with iniesta providing the assist, and the 2nd and 3rd goal coming in the second leg that same season at camp nou after denying chelsea 2 glaring penalty and that was the ninth times he was facing chelsea so he never even scored against cech in club history. ronaldo did have 17 goals against us btw, @@michaelaniefiok2592

    • @tadiyahfraser
      @tadiyahfraser Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thank you! We'll said.

    • @rivarwayne8179
      @rivarwayne8179 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@paulboluwatifeabi9588 hmmm the stats say that ronaldo faced chelsea 17 times to be precise 12 times in the prem, 4 times in various cups and once in the UCL. He scored 2 goals against them and assisted 2 goals . He scored once and assisted 2 in the prem and scored once in the UCL.
      Messi faced them 10 times and all of them obviously in the UCL. He scored 3 goals and assisted 3 against chelsea.
      So Ronaldo 4 g/a in 17 games against Chelsea and Messi 6 g/a in 10 games against chelsea

  • @obi1wayas864
    @obi1wayas864 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Ol Boi keep am up ooo. You lived and proved your worth. From your namesake keep on keeping on. Happy New Year to your team, especially your co host and most importantly your family.

  • @henrymolioa3420
    @henrymolioa3420 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I also agree with John Obi that Messi is the greatest of all time

  • @SonOfBeelzebub
    @SonOfBeelzebub Před 5 měsíci +142

    Anybody who says Ronaldo is better than Messi doesn’t understand football and I think it’s done more damage because it has made it difficult for people to appreciate them

  • @daviskimweri8095
    @daviskimweri8095 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Obi, ur mic was not turned on

  • @EmilozAGF
    @EmilozAGF Před 5 měsíci +3

    CR7 the best

  • @rockfelraymond6257
    @rockfelraymond6257 Před 5 měsíci +3

    even people have tried to compare them in terms of trophies but i try to ignore that that coz wining a trophy is a team effort though sometimes some individuals can determine the outcomes of most of those games but when talking INDIVIDUAL brilliancy on the pitch??
    I dont think there is any footballer close to Messi, the passes, the goals, assists or vision& creativity, doing the unexpected, the goals even just the touch on the ball alone(ball control), the ballance even just merely winning the ball from him is almost impossible of which the best players do is foul him or u let him run past you
    Most players can have either half or less of these qualities but theiy are considered the best in their positions but Messi is like a number 9,10,11 i mean coz of the free role its not easy to understand that man
    I JUST FEAR HIM I DONT KNOW IF HE CAN BE MARKED BY THE GREATEST DEFENDER MAYBE YOU NEED 2

  • @tabijohn4340
    @tabijohn4340 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Even cr7 knows that Messi is the goat. Messi is natural while cr7 is hard work. How can you compare natural from God and man made? Messi is from different planet.

  • @ststeve5212
    @ststeve5212 Před 5 měsíci +16

    I believe Messi is a better player too, but the way Mikel said it in that interview wasn’t fair on Ronaldo. Let’s call a spade a spade. He was insinuating Ronaldo has an “arrogance & pride” to be considered the GOAT. And that didn’t sit well with me so I can see why people were upset.
    Every champion has a bit of arrogance and that’s the truth. That’s what keeps them kicking.

    • @ebubeuzor8320
      @ebubeuzor8320 Před 5 měsíci +6

      But messi is not arrogant at all...and he is the best player of all time

    • @ststeve5212
      @ststeve5212 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@ebubeuzor8320 not arguing if he’s the best player. Most “champions” across all sports are arrogant, Mikel didn’t understand this trait as he wasn’t a ‘great’ player himself.
      Messi doesn’t room with any teammate in the national team for a few years now. That’s arrogance in its own right but media wouldn’t dare paint him in that light.

    • @rizanvou
      @rizanvou Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@ststeve5212 Source: Ronaldo's World Cup

    • @uromi-owuopukeme6081
      @uromi-owuopukeme6081 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ststeve5212 that's a lie ,Messi rooms with Sergio aguero . And besides players in the team hotel are at liberty to approach the front desk and book another room if they like and the coaches allow it , AT LEAST I KNOW YOUR NOT SCALONI .

    • @ststeve5212
      @ststeve5212 Před 5 měsíci

      @@uromi-owuopukeme6081 understand reading is a problem to you. It clearly says ‘not rooming with any teammate in the national team for a few years now’. Sergio Aguero has been long retired since 2021. I’m sure u need specsavers

  • @GaryCoolCoolCutterWilson
    @GaryCoolCoolCutterWilson Před 3 měsíci +1

    Messi overall skills. Messi is the Greatest. Plus his I.Q.

  • @robdogj
    @robdogj Před 5 měsíci +4

    My Opinion is Zizzou Da GOAT 🐐

  • @imanmunam7955
    @imanmunam7955 Před 5 měsíci +32

    Mikel, you don't have to apologize for saying the glaring truth. Just like you said in Rio's podcast, against Ronaldo, the team trusted A.Cole to do the job but against Messi, everyone had to tackle. I remember the El Classicos involving Messi and Ronaldo, how only one player (Alvez mostly) usually marked Ronaldo but once Messi gets the ball, Alonso, Khedira, Ramos and Marcelo are all over him. Alonso even told the story how Mourinho and him would spend days creating tactics to silent Messi. Even with that, he still shone. No team pays that much attention to Ronaldo, let alone a big team.

    • @abdulaijalloh1829
      @abdulaijalloh1829 Před 5 měsíci +5

      First of all, how many goals Ronaldo did score against Dani Alves despite the referres backing Alves and barca against real madrid. And can you name us how goal Messi scored against Ashley Cole.
      2nd of all, go and check who was the worst opponent pique played against in his entire career.
      Thirdly, the man said it's his opinion and my opinion was , is,and will always be this ,Cristiano Ronaldo is the best of all time

    • @abdulaijalloh1829
      @abdulaijalloh1829 Před 5 měsíci +2

      You said no big team finds it hard to play against Ronaldo is that so
      Then please go and check how goals Ronaldo scored against Bayern, Juve,AC Milan,Liverpool, Man United, PSG,Inter Milan, Chelsea,Man City, ATM,Porto etc...
      Ronaldo started his career at sporting Lisbon while your dwarf Goat was babysitted by Ronaldinho, éto'o ,xavi and inesta

    • @michaelaniefiok2592
      @michaelaniefiok2592 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@abdulaijalloh1829you’re a funny sentimental dude 😅
      What club do you support? United or Madrid I guess…
      You asked the number of goals Messi scored against Ashley without asking yourself the number of times they played against each other… Ronaldo played against Ashley in the same league for 6yrs but Messi who only faced Ashley in the UCL has more goals against Chelsea than Ronaldo.
      I’m a Chelsea fan and I can tell you without any sentiment that Messi is far greater than Cristiano. They are not even on the same level

    • @DanielWilson-bu4cq
      @DanielWilson-bu4cq Před 5 měsíci +2

      You’re a Messi fan boy

    • @DanielWilson-bu4cq
      @DanielWilson-bu4cq Před 5 měsíci +2

      No team pays attention to Ronaldo? How old are you

  • @jesseludenyo6436
    @jesseludenyo6436 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ronaldinho is the greatest of all time OBI, even you should know that

  • @yarelinemanda1341
    @yarelinemanda1341 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Affirmative bluesmate our own legend

  • @pregra
    @pregra Před 5 měsíci +1

    1. Lionel Messi
    2. Diego Armando Maradona
    3. Not Cristiano Ronaldo

  • @vinnyvasquez
    @vinnyvasquez Před 5 měsíci +1

    Ronaldo isn't even the best footballer called Ronaldo

  • @TomolojuKayode
    @TomolojuKayode Před měsícem

    True talk my guy you said right

  • @rouhoullahdiomande3970
    @rouhoullahdiomande3970 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Everyone knows Messi is way better than Ronaldo. Those Ronaldo fans know deep down that it's true. Everyone knows that.

  • @bouyahiausama
    @bouyahiausama Před 4 měsíci +1

    i agree

  • @emmanuelodekunle64
    @emmanuelodekunle64 Před 5 měsíci +3

    💯 with Obi on it !!

  • @El_Diego86
    @El_Diego86 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Cr7 not even top 5. Ronaldinho R9 Pele Maradona all better. Statistics isnt what makes someone The Goat plus he hasnt won a World Cup something you need to be amongst those Legends. If you are a Football fan you will understand. Fact and nothing haters will say will change that.

  • @tabijohn4340
    @tabijohn4340 Před 4 měsíci

    Apart from WC the next value trophy is UCL. Messi beat cr7 in UCL final 2009, UCL semi final 2012.ryhard cup 2021.what do you want Messi to do again?

  • @hdhighlights9071
    @hdhighlights9071 Před 5 měsíci +3

    But who is Mikel Obi in the footballing world

    • @onlinemoneyhub9361
      @onlinemoneyhub9361 Před 5 měsíci +1

      He is a big guy! Now he owns a podcast! He has achieved a lot and so he matters in football regardless of the sentiments

    • @pn074
      @pn074 Před 5 měsíci +3

      A bench warmer who did absolutely nothing.

    • @footballfrea4k0048
      @footballfrea4k0048 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Bang average player who was fortunate to play for Chelsea. If not for this Podcast I swear many of them had never even heard of his name.

    • @timothysmit3029
      @timothysmit3029 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Who are you in the footballing world? 🤔

    • @livinusokoz306
      @livinusokoz306 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@pn074 yet started in the biggest games for Chelsea in his prime

  • @ola...o1009
    @ola...o1009 Před 5 měsíci +1

    CR7 nodding abilities, second to none

  • @El_Diego86
    @El_Diego86 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Messi clearly better. Not opinion fact. Goalscoring isn't the only thing in Football. Cr7 is Monster Goalscorer with crazy numbers but hes not a better Pure Footballer than Messi.

  • @user-xm6ro1ep5d
    @user-xm6ro1ep5d Před 5 měsíci +2

    Pele is the GOAT, then follow the rest.
    People don’t seem to understand that you can’t be 1/3 for Copa America, 1/1 for World Cup.
    These are the Facts, not opinions

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd Před 4 měsíci

      When you have the greatest team ever assembled by your side , you are bound to win trophies

    • @user-xm6ro1ep5d
      @user-xm6ro1ep5d Před 4 měsíci

      @@BrotherBernard-yy4yd Messi had the best team in 3 of those finals. No excuses

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-xm6ro1ep5d difference between best teams and greatest teams is that , greatest teams often tend to repeat the World Cup win
      Exactly what peles team did without him in 1962 World Cup

    • @user-xm6ro1ep5d
      @user-xm6ro1ep5d Před 4 měsíci

      @@BrotherBernard-yy4ydThe greates team is consider to be the best team, don't conflict the two. At the end of the day Messi is a phenomenal player, he just lacks the leadership. Nothing wrong being 2nd, under Pele.

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-xm6ro1ep5d there is always a difference between best teams and greatest teams
      Pele had players in his team who are easily top 50 player of all time , the best player in messi’s squad was di Maria , who definitely isn’t a top 50 player , the Brazil team didn’t even need pele in 1962 to win the World Cup , enough to show that pele played with far more superior quality than messi
      And being a better leader is a subjective arguement , even I can say that messi’s leadership was far more challenging than pele given the squads they had to work with .

  • @magicmantra4456
    @magicmantra4456 Před 4 měsíci

    Messi is naturally gifted.....
    But it's still arguable.
    It's still debatable

  • @emmanuelmawutor7155
    @emmanuelmawutor7155 Před 4 měsíci

    Cr7 and his fans should be ready Messi is about to take their only hope.. the goal record

  • @user-su6kc6ox8t
    @user-su6kc6ox8t Před 5 měsíci +3

    Mikel, take your opinion and shove it with current chelsea league table position because both are similar. Lol. Anyway, good job on the podcast, Mikel.

  • @faraiguveya3537
    @faraiguveya3537 Před 5 měsíci

    Ronaldo chibaba chero mukaramba🎉

  • @stef380
    @stef380 Před měsícem

    100%

  • @successtorrestv2709
    @successtorrestv2709 Před 4 měsíci

    And you are the back pass GOAT

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      No and what did you achieve in your career.

  • @Cusemagic
    @Cusemagic Před 4 měsíci

    However they are different type of players and both play with different styles
    But i wouldn’t say / call him a G.O.A.T
    Obi is using the wrong terminology or word
    Messi is one of the greatest footballers in his time and generation or in our time and generation

    • @ally4131
      @ally4131 Před 2 měsíci

      Nah he's by far the best of our time. The only comparable player is Pele.

  • @sajinmubarak8017
    @sajinmubarak8017 Před 5 měsíci

    Obi mikel- please invite me to your podcast. I have subscribed to your channel ur podcast will hit a 1 million very soon. 😊. Seriously, invite me to your podcast.

  • @ItsHoang_Truong
    @ItsHoang_Truong Před 4 měsíci

    If you honestly think Messi had a better 2023 than Haaland. Then you are fooling yourself

  • @spanishmontana6121
    @spanishmontana6121 Před 3 měsíci

    This guy sat on the bench so much his bum print is still there at Stamford Bridge

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      Really? What have you been up to in your life? Can we see your score card?

  • @111R
    @111R Před 3 měsíci

    PSG doesn’t think so…

  • @mrfacts6860
    @mrfacts6860 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Since 1st Jan 2009 till date 2024
    Messi not only has most goals
    He has
    Most assists
    Most dribbles completed
    Most chances created
    Most freekick s
    Most goals from outside the box
    Most golden boots
    Most Iiffhs playmaker awards
    Most international mvp awards
    Can u imagine comparing him with a poacher..it's Like lakaka has more goals than Pele Maradona Ronaldo Ronaldinho Romario neymar Suarez is a better player than them 😂😂

  • @letlhogonolokarele8002
    @letlhogonolokarele8002 Před 5 měsíci +3

    It is the way u said it....there is an old interview of you when you said you never liked him because he is arrogant....which seemed personal to me and i can't blame you because the guy won ucl against your chealse team even me i will steal be hurt.

  • @edsonpacheco294
    @edsonpacheco294 Před 5 měsíci

    R9 & R10 >>>>>

  • @user-tc5os6ri6f
    @user-tc5os6ri6f Před 3 měsíci

    Mikel Obi are you part of the greatest midfielders of all time😂😂😂😂

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes he is

    • @user-tc5os6ri6f
      @user-tc5os6ri6f Před 2 měsíci

      @@Helena_01541 Helena please you ask your brother or guy friends and take your decision.

  • @sunnyegbo6252
    @sunnyegbo6252 Před 5 měsíci +2

    You are both telling your ages. Pelé was, has been and will always be the greatest footballer of all time. Come on, Obi.

    • @imanmunam7955
      @imanmunam7955 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I trust their opinion more than yours.

    • @sunnyegbo6252
      @sunnyegbo6252 Před 5 měsíci

      @@imanmunam7955 they will both come around to my opinion. Pelé defined football before Messi and Ronaldo were born.

    • @imanmunam7955
      @imanmunam7955 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@sunnyegbo6252 so it's a matter of age. I could mention Di Stefano for instance and say he defined football before Pele was born and that's it.

    • @bonaventuretindin8494
      @bonaventuretindin8494 Před 4 měsíci

      you didnt even alive when he played

    • @amooolusina6978
      @amooolusina6978 Před 4 měsíci

      Pele, the one who refused to play his club football outside Brazil.

  • @TheClaudinho11
    @TheClaudinho11 Před 27 dny

    Dont even know the rules for the voting... These guys r why the football never will be a healthy place...

    • @TheClaudinho11
      @TheClaudinho11 Před 27 dny

      And also, he disrespect the Legacy of Pelé. Without Pelé, even him would not have been a footballer...

  • @gax7527
    @gax7527 Před 5 měsíci

    Ronaldo is different.

  • @kitbagaipo1
    @kitbagaipo1 Před 5 měsíci +10

    "The best, ever?"
    "Yeah, he's the best to ever play the game."
    "I AGREE."

  • @fakyemmy4937
    @fakyemmy4937 Před 5 měsíci

    CR7 is the GOAT!

  • @3dd3cheetosdoritos11
    @3dd3cheetosdoritos11 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Obi is very correct. I agree with Obi 💯

  • @dembatouray6664
    @dembatouray6664 Před 3 měsíci +1

    John obi Mikel was bang average so his opinion means nothing plus just hearing the way he speaks about cr7 compared to any other player you can sense that hatred in his speech. Messi is a great player but definitely not the 🐐. He is a 1 system player while cr7 can shine in any system and every team he plays in. Messi is massively favored by the media so much that even giving him current awards for two years back performances, ridiculous. I don’t mind people saying their opinions on the 🐐 debate but i just hate players like Mikel who just refuse to recognize greatness just because they hate someone so obviously. Whogivesafuck 😅

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      You don't hate Mikel, you hate the truth. He doesn't care or even know you though.

    • @dembatouray6664
      @dembatouray6664 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Helena_01541 Lol like i give a f… about his opinion. Fyi i don’t want someone as negative as him to know me, I’m good 😊

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      @@dembatouray6664 lol so what were you doing in his comment section?

    • @dembatouray6664
      @dembatouray6664 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Helena_01541 I’m a fan of the podcast not him 😂

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      @@dembatouray6664 you don't have to be a fan of his podcast. If you hate him so much, which you clearly do for just having an opinion or preferring one person over the other, then you don't need to fan his podcast. The podcast is owned by him and also presented by him, you must be a funny person, fanning his podcast but not him 😂

  • @user-dn6kf7tq1r
    @user-dn6kf7tq1r Před 4 měsíci

    Obi is entittled to his opinion but that doesn't make it right

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      His opinion is very valid, true, and accurate.

  • @keiblackhorse9299
    @keiblackhorse9299 Před 5 měsíci

    Peles the goat 3 world cups

  • @footballfrea4k0048
    @footballfrea4k0048 Před 5 měsíci

    Who is even this? This guy had the audacity to say I was one of the most decorated players in Africa. You are not even worth Toure boots lace

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes, he is one of the most decorated Africa footballers. Take your pain to where the sun doesn't shine.

  • @worldentertainmenttv4540
    @worldentertainmenttv4540 Před 4 měsíci

    Cr7 the goat

  • @knownaskai
    @knownaskai Před 5 měsíci +2

    The aim of football is to win. To win you need to score goals. If there’s any player in history that has proven he can score in the most important games and won the best trophies in different leagues, beating all sorts of records and has had a tougher career it’s gotta be Ronaldo. 3 different leagues and a national team that has never performed but still scoring is different. Some say messi has a better goal to game ratio which is true. But with all due respect, it should be since the majority of his career he’s been with one club. But I’m not deluded, I get why people say Messi. The guys phenomenal. For me, the best 2 ever

    • @kofow483
      @kofow483 Před 5 měsíci

      You obviously were not born with eyes...Messi is clear

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd Před 5 měsíci

      The biggest stage is the World Cup and UCL
      Messi has proved himself in both
      Penaldo can only dream of scoring more goals than Harry maguire in World Cup knockout

    • @victorobiora4656
      @victorobiora4656 Před 4 měsíci

      Messi only miss to win under 17 youth world cup. He won under 20, under 23 and senior world cup.

  • @philipezra8671
    @philipezra8671 Před 5 měsíci

    Neither of them!!!!
    R9 and maradonna are better

  • @jackroro7381
    @jackroro7381 Před 4 měsíci

    come on Mikel, do you really think you are the greatest Nigerian player ever?

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      When did he say that?

    • @jackroro7381
      @jackroro7381 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Helena_01541 do you watch his podcast? as a matter of fact ask him in the comment, he might reply. you will hear his argument.

  • @gswaggofficial1887
    @gswaggofficial1887 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Messi is the GOAT no doubt, CR7 is noway near Messi's level

  • @tadiyahfraser
    @tadiyahfraser Před 5 měsíci

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ElDragow
    @ElDragow Před 5 měsíci

    Ronaldo is the greatest of all time. But I still can respect Messi also. Fanboys need to grow up. Also the losers that pretend there is only 1 factual answer in a debate where there are so many objective and unfair comparisons, are truly deluded.

    • @mustubaloch1995
      @mustubaloch1995 Před 5 měsíci

      Messi messi messi messi

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd Před 4 měsíci

      Objectively messi is the GOAT
      If you don’t include opinions like “ronaldo did it in 3 leagues”
      Then people start having this stupid ass debate

    • @mustubaloch1995
      @mustubaloch1995 Před 4 měsíci

      @@BrotherBernard-yy4yd messi messi messi messi bitches

  • @mannamichael7259
    @mannamichael7259 Před 5 měsíci +4

    It was your person I particularly like not your footballing abilities.
    You lacked in many areas and your style is highly predictable.
    You're fortunate to play for CFC because you're so average.
    Comparing yourself with Nwakwo Kanu is an insult to the beautiful game, you can't lace Kanu's boots.
    In 2013 that we won the AFCON, you were so average even more than the saviour Mbah who then was a local player.
    It was glaring that the Burkina Faso guy was better than you in that competition but because we love you and that's our sentiment, we said you were robbed not to be given the golden ball or won the best player in Africa, Yaya was better in all areas than you do them and now.
    And on CR7 and Messi's comparisons, the two of them are the greatest, it only takes sentiments to pick either of them like we Nigerian picked you in 2013.
    Thank you Obi, still, I love you.

    • @Victhur_Romanov
      @Victhur_Romanov Před 5 měsíci +2

      Kanu never scored a nations cup goal. He played in at least 3 tourneys but never scored. With that would you say he's the greatest Nigerian footballer?
      I am not saying Mikel is, but there is and will always be arguements for and against both players.

    • @footballfrea4k0048
      @footballfrea4k0048 Před 5 měsíci

      On top of that he even had the audacity to say I was one of the most decorated players in Africa ahead of Yaya Toure. Bang average player who was very fortunate to play for Chelsea. If Makelele had not left Chelsea he would be playing for Stokes City at best or warming the bench his entire career.

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@footballfrea4k0048 You don't have any data to back up this your incorrect assertions. You're just bitter because he prefers Messi to Ronaldo. Very sentimental take, no facts. Fly away.

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 Před 2 měsíci

      Your comments is very sentimental and lack facts. You're very bitter because he prefers Messi to Ronaldo. The 2013 AFCON that you mentioned, Mikel made AFCON team of the tournament and CAF team of the year, and you're here screaming he is "average", why was your Mbah not in the team of tournament or anything after that. A player that came second to Lionel Messi in FIFA U20 WC and was huge talk of the town that time even two big clubs in the world struggled for his signature. A player that was wanted by a top manager then, Sir Alex Ferguson. You're clearly pained. Take your hatred for him and shove it in your skin.
      You mentioned "luck" for someone that played for 10 years in one of the big clubs in the world with different managers and a big club that had a popular rich owner who have bought thousands of players to replace if he wanted and he wasn't even considered for a loan throughout his time there.
      And no you don't love him, he doesn't need your love, he is not lacking love. Is like you haven't noticed, he has a beautiful family. Just fly away 😏

  • @agilityquickness2129
    @agilityquickness2129 Před 5 měsíci +1

    John Obi, you could be a little classy and less combative man. Your voice is tainted with anger and bias, your podcast is young and I believe you should stay away from these kinda issues

  • @philipkanu6364
    @philipkanu6364 Před 5 měsíci

    Okocha is better than obi and kanu in Nigeria

  • @franc7s
    @franc7s Před 5 měsíci

    Ronaldo was the only reason Chelsea couldn’t get anything 😂

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd Před 4 měsíci

      Literally only scored twice in 17 appearances against Chelsea

    • @franc7s
      @franc7s Před 4 měsíci

      @@BrotherBernard-yy4yd 2008 ucl final

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd Před 4 měsíci

      @@franc7s 1 goal that’s it
      Missed the penalty
      Had to cry for van der sar and John terry to bail his choke job

  • @uromi-owuopukeme6081
    @uromi-owuopukeme6081 Před 5 měsíci +1

    90 percent of people who played against both players say messi is better 😅😂, including every single left back and right back, Ashley Cole included . And almost the entire man utd team that played with penaldo , say messi is better than him .

  • @rajatsingh1375
    @rajatsingh1375 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Comparing dwarf to a complete player is a disgrace to football 😂

    • @amooolusina6978
      @amooolusina6978 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Comparing "the most decorated player in history" to a "world cup flop" is a disgrace to Football 😂

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd Před 4 měsíci

      Dwarf could buy your Indian village 😂

    • @garythefishable
      @garythefishable Před 3 měsíci

      Hard to call Ronaldo a complete player when he was never an elite dribbler and he couldn't do through ball passes. He is good at headers though if that's what you mean.

    • @rajatsingh1375
      @rajatsingh1375 Před 3 měsíci

      @@garythefishable bro since when are you watching football? Ronaldo has scored plenty of goals dribbling

    • @garythefishable
      @garythefishable Před 3 měsíci

      @@rajatsingh1375 So have the vast majority of forward players who play at a professional level.

  • @riruta1200
    @riruta1200 Před 12 dny

    Mikel now you making very senseless opinion

  • @TraderM.2695
    @TraderM.2695 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The Olympics of football is the UCL, most competitive soccer league. Best players from the whole world coached by the best coaches from the whole world. And Ronaldo has performed the best there when both of them had capable teams and coaches.
    So how is Messi better when he gets outperformed at the highest level of football whilst having the same competitive advantage?
    Even look at who the upcoming players idolise the most. Upcomers in an industry never idolise number 2.

    • @moluther2826
      @moluther2826 Před 5 měsíci +3

      The World Cup is far more prestigious. How has the best player of his generation according to you never registered a single goal or assist in a World Cup knockout match?

  • @abdulaijalloh1829
    @abdulaijalloh1829 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Ronaldo battle wars in England, Spain, Portugal Italy and Saudi Arabia and he conquered all despite the governing body been against him he still won and proved himself
    On the hand Messi since leaving Spain he never won a league player of the year and he have 3 in four months it's so shame for the world Greatest player of all time 😂

    • @moluther2826
      @moluther2826 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Enough with these silly conspiracy theories, nobody is against him.

  • @king5phenom
    @king5phenom Před 5 měsíci +1

    Ronaldo the goat CR7

  • @mr_caustic
    @mr_caustic Před 5 měsíci +3

    Cr7 is d GOAT

  • @tabijohn4340
    @tabijohn4340 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Cr7 fans knows Messi is the goat. If the WC was rigged for Messi, why didn't they rigged the WC for cr7 since he started playing football before Messi?

  • @GVerify-dy9xm
    @GVerify-dy9xm Před 5 měsíci +1

    coming from someone who was carried his whole career

  • @abglamour5941
    @abglamour5941 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Mikel go and sleep.
    You know nothing about football

    • @user-ub4tc9sc9v
      @user-ub4tc9sc9v Před 5 měsíci +3

      As he said his opinion isn't your opinions or whoever else opinions, why do you still jonesing him to say CR7

    • @Redmangalia
      @Redmangalia Před 5 měsíci +1

      Aren't you a dummy? A player who played at the highest level doesn't know football.

    • @imanmunam7955
      @imanmunam7955 Před 5 měsíci +4

      He's been there, done that. Played at the highest stage, with and against the best players. What have you done in football? 😂

    • @Victhur_Romanov
      @Victhur_Romanov Před 5 měsíci +2

      And you know everything about football. Let's see your playing career please!

    • @isaacoladele4929
      @isaacoladele4929 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Lol 😅 I guess you will be the next coach of real Madrid, cus you know so much about football, why can't you just hold on to your own opinion and respect Mikel's own

  • @sunnyegbo6252
    @sunnyegbo6252 Před 5 měsíci

    Ask yourself this: which player made football what it is today? Not Messi. Not Ronaldo. Pelé is the one responsible for the beautiful game.

  • @AlexBxnn7
    @AlexBxnn7 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The world cup was rigged

  • @spoots1234
    @spoots1234 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Messi is a better footballer but Ronaldo is a better asset. It really depends on your priorities - Messi = prettier football, Ronaldo = more options to score.

    • @victorobiora4656
      @victorobiora4656 Před 4 měsíci

      No. Messi scores goals also assist others to score. Christiano sometimes is selfish. If he does not score, he does not willingly assist others to score.

  • @z3dda
    @z3dda Před 5 měsíci

    Obi 👏

  • @ogbonnagodstime2602
    @ogbonnagodstime2602 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Messi is the greatest football ever

  • @0123456787175
    @0123456787175 Před 5 měsíci

    My opinion is that Ronaldo El-Fenomino (the real Ronaldo of Brazil) is the greatest player of all time (G.O.A.T). I believe that 100%

    • @BluesFanUK_
      @BluesFanUK_ Před 5 měsíci

      Anyone who says Brazilian Ronaldo never saw him play. He was one of the most explosive talents to ever kick a ball, but he was nowhere near being the best ever even at his peak.

  • @LiamsFriendStewie
    @LiamsFriendStewie Před 5 měsíci +3

    The Messi x Ronaldo debate is now a footballing IQ test for me. If you're NOT Portuguese or a Lisbon/United/Madrid/Juve fan and you think Ronaldo is better than Messi, then I no longer want to debate football with you because you don't 'get' football. If you ARE Portuguese/Lisbon/United/Madrid/Juve fan and you think Ronaldo is better.. then it makes sense.

    • @LiamsFriendStewie
      @LiamsFriendStewie Před 5 měsíci +2

      My friend is an English Liverpool fan, we're both old enough to have watched all their careers. He thinks Ronaldo is better than Messi at football. I won't ever discuss football with him because I simply don't respect his opinion. How can you be neutral and be objectively wrong, I don't understand what game you've been watching.

    • @ubaidmalik2517
      @ubaidmalik2517 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@LiamsFriendStewieits not that deep. 😭

    • @ElDragow
      @ElDragow Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@LiamsFriendStewieyour friend sounds smarter than you.

    • @TREPIIID
      @TREPIIID Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@ubaidmalik2517Ikr. It just screams insecurity from Messi fanboys.