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Toyota 4runner/Tacoma • Body-On-Frame The Video you can’t afford not to watch!
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- čas přidán 3. 05. 2023
- *UNDERCOATING YOUR FRAME DOES NOT VOID YOUR WARRANTY *
Taking care of your Frame early on, is what I believe to be the best investment you can make to protect your ride.
More info on undercoating pricing:
www.linex.com
Or call them to schedule an appointment:
(732)560 8500
New Jersey Line-X
8W chimney rock Rd, unit H
Bound Brook,NJ 08805
Here’s what I know:
-it’s called Valugard PF Undercoating VG-104
-it’s black wax-based formula which seals the underside
-Special Additives provide superior adhesion and resilience
-Contains no Tar-like ingredients that attack body coatings
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Do you live within the Rust belt Area?
What are your thoughts on this crap
(sodium chloride (NaCl), commonly known as road salt)
they spread all over the roads during the winter?
What is the Best Product, in a spray can to touch up my undercoating for the future?
CRC video Application:
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My 1st Attempt to Frame Treatment once the rust is present:
• Toyota 4Runner • RUST...
More Frame Carnage:
• Warning Toyota FJ Crui...
Actual 4runner Frame damage:
• Toyota 4Runner • It w...
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Short, sweet and to the point. I agree, protecting the frame is of the utmost importance with Toyota’s. It’s ashame that the manufacturer doesn’t do a better job with this especially knowing the history. It was interesting, that you had several examples at the dealership of bad frames. Thankfully, I don’t live in the rust belt so rust isn’t as common.
Great job!
I think it comes down to them wanting you to buy another car after 10 years.
This frame carnage pretty normal around here. 🤘🏻
Do you know which chemical LINE x used?
Im not entirely sure Sir.
Awesome video, every single 4Runner owner should watch this. I have Krown rustproofed…pretty popular here in Toronto Canada.
God bless your sir for this great knowledge sharing.
🙏🏻 Thank you!
I do agree, we need to share this to make more people aware. It’s heartbreaking to me the few times I had to bring frame damage concerns up to the owners.
Woolwax and Fluid Film user here. Have been doing it on my FJ since new in 2011 and my 4R since new in 2018. Worth the effort! I’m in New England. Sold the FJ in 18’ and frame looked brand new and always sat outside. I also use a good coating of Woolwax on my off road wheels during the winter, they’ll look a tad dirty but come spring wash time lthey ook new, and have been protected. Lanolin products great investment (time and money) for long term protection.
Very good info, thank you for sharing!! 👏🏻👏🏻
Fluid Film on all my cars.
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Interesting, used to be in the sheep industry,the metal surfaces coated with wool grease would rust even galvanized surfaces in a way that suggests that it traps moisture.
Just saying.
The more we know. 🤔
Good video-I live in NH and purchased a 2023 white 40th year 4Runner and I had the dealership put waxoyl treatment to the undercarriage before I picked it up, that is another great product endorsed by all auto makers-anyone that lives in the rust belt should treat their undercarriage- the treatment cost was 850 dollars and is guaranteed for the life of the vehicle-not cheap but worth it!!
👏🏻👏🏻 totally worth it!!
Had the same thing done but it was priced at $1200 and I never got a proper name for the type of treatment ... just a wax based undercoating. Also, it appears only the actual frame was done. I didn't see the product on any of the crossbars, tierods, suspension, etc. Is this normal?
My treatment cost 850.and they treated the whole under cathage ,they should have done the whole under cathage like mine but the frame is the most important .@@Marcoosianism
@Marcoosianism I’m not entirely sure Sir!!
@@Jojo-ni2cg Thank you.
Yup fluid film here Every Jeep, 4Runner and now GX460 I’ve ever owned - entire frame inside and out. Not a speck of rust.
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What month do you fluid film?
I live in Georgia, my 2022 Runner has lived here since birth. If for some reason we move north, the undercoating is going on. 💯
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I am searching for a cheap backup car, and I was all over this old Corolla BECAUSE it spent its entire life in (snowless) Georgia lol
@JoeBuck-uc3bl Corollas are great for that. Good on gas too.
Boom ! NICE !!! Wow i wasn't aware about the top of the frames having issues but makes so much sense I need to make sure the top of the frame is coated too! Thank you again for opening our eyes a bit more.
Anytime Sir! 🙏🏻
This is the most truthful video. Full frame trucks are great, but all suffer from same thing after 10 years. Frame damage.
I wish manufacturers would have them treated so they never rot.
Glad you are showing people how to treat these trucks underneath. It makes a massive difference. Well worth the investment.
You got it!
It’s very important information. This way we can stretch our ownership a bit longer.
Go to your local hardware store buy a gallon of floor wax the kind you use on commercial floors you can spray it on with the pump sprayer did mine five years ago still shiny and no rust best 20 bucks ever.
Good to know, thank you for sharing!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Main thing is to hose down the underside after winter. Get rid of the salt. Inspect sand and apply POR15. Most owners never bother to go underside. But they will put a million coats of wax on the paint.
This is very true.
An underside treatment is a moist barrier, that’s supposed to stay moist (an be reapplied at certain intervals). Hosing down the underside is to be avoided if you get these treatments done, you’re washing your barrier off!! Hosing and cleaning salt off the underside is a better move for people who do not get oil based treatments done though.
Wholeheartedly agreed! One of the first things I did when I got my FJ was to wire brush the surface rust and liberally coat the frame inside and out with Surface Shield. It was a messy, tedious job, but I feel so much better knowing I've got the frame treated against further rust.
Granted, I think I'm going to take it to Line-X as well when it comes time to treat it again. ~laughs~
Right on! It’s messy indeed but very much necessary.
I definitely need to look into this. I live in California (not the rust belt). However, I travel all over (90% of the time), so it just makes sense. Thank you for sharing.
Absolutely!!
Do get it done.
Frames should be galvanized by law for safety. The price we pay is extreme but the vehicles are lacking...
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Havin my 2021 TRD ORP XP done on the 12th. I’m in VA but I bought the undercoat and diamond ceramic for the paint drop it off that morning and get a loaner for the day. Not as important as you in NJ but still put salt on the roads here. Good move here brother!
God bless~
Absolutely, protection is always a peace of mind!!
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I buy a case of woolwax aerosol every fall and crawl under my 4runner and use all 12 cans... drop the spare tire, drop the skid plates, try as best as I can to coat the inside of the frame... It holds up really good too
Thank you for reminding me of this problem . Because my first forerunner 1998 SR5 with still running great but I had to give it up in 2018 because rust everything underneath parking on gravel driveway, which I was not aware of cost me
You got it!! 👍🏻
Sorry to hear about your 98
Had it done for my new 4Runner. The whole job is 599 dollars excluding tax etc. worth it. Oh and it will smell hard like chemicals for two weeks so be braced for that.
This is very true, but still worth it.
This goes for Tacoma owners thank you for the video
As the title states…
Well then let’s share it with them.
In my view what is even a worse issue with these trucks is the corrosion on the brake lines, where the line meets the fitting....I have seen some 5th gen 4runners spring line leaks at the front hard lines which attach to the calipers and the rear lines where they attach to the flex lines before the rear axle.
In extreme cases, I sure have seen this.
Good video, and advice. I just got a new TRD ORP 4runner, has 500 miles and doing an undercoat with woolwax tomorrow!
Absolutely, very smart!!
Congratulations on the new ride!!
Man, that took me 4 hours to get it done start to finish. I had done my sons 3rd gen a few years ago, but forgot how many nooks and crannies. Laid on a thick coat. Big job, but glad I got it done while there is no rust on it!
I hear you, that’s why I choose to pay someone else to do it.
Glad you got it done! 😅👏🏻👏🏻
that last line did it for me😂😂😂. I do that from time to time. I have 3 languages inside my head and i only got 1 mouth to spew lol
I know right😅
Same here, Portuguese English and Spanish. Gets tricky sometimes.
Thank you for watching Sir!
I appreciate you.
That looks really good. I live in FL but was thinking about getting something like this done for off roading protection, plus driving on the beach with salt in the sand, etc. Does applying this void any warranty with Toyota?
It does not.
How much does a job like that would run ya?
I paid $640, tax included.
Not a bad price considering NJ.
Good to know
Agreed!!
@@VikingsGarage do you think it's worth it for my 2016 4runner. I'm the original owner and would live to keep it for many many years
ugh!!! just bought a new 4 Runner and guess I should have done more research. paint protection because it sits outside and now rustproofing because I live in Pa. I've been reading on forum everyone's opinion. not being mechanically inclined I was thinking of having a line-x place do it as there is one in York pa which is close. I will call tomorrow to get a price. However, I am being told that I should remove the spare tire and skid plate. Ummm no. also being told that depending on the person doing the work they may or may not do these things and perhaps strip a bolt since they work on time. this is all very depressing as I was just looking forward to 10-15 years of happy driving without all the extra worrisome details of frame rust and do it myself work and preparation. oh well. thanks for your video and wish you luck and fun in your truck. I didn't notice if you removed your skid plate or not, but you are far more experienced than a retired teacher in these things. I do not know how or even want to remove the spare tire as I know there will be a problem arise in that procedure.
Spare tire is super easy to remove, follow the owners manual. Leave the skid plate alone, they will take care of it. Getting it done is what important, it’s a must.
Enjoy!!
I got the undercoating when i bought my 2022 4Runner. I know its not 360° coverage but makes me feel a little better.
Absolutely, same here. 🤷🏼♂️
I just got a brand new TRD ORP and have an apointmen there soon at chimney rock location. Question... on you're green one in this video did you do the inside of the frame on top of lineX or just that on this truck?
I did the inside of the frame with “CRC” on my own.
Did my 2016 4 Runner frame with POR-15 in 2018 before I moved to Florida from Jersey in 2020…no salt down here !!
Very nice! Thank you for sharing!
The air 😂
Fluid Film once a year in the fall yourself is great way to keep frame in good condition... just saying
Luckily for me I live in Arizona. My 20 year old Land Cruiser is 100% rust free. I would never move to a rust belt state, I love cars too much.
I hear you! That’s clearly one sweet Landcruiser!
I’m looking to move out there 😉
@@VikingsGarage if you move out to AZ hit me up, we can do some trails.
Absolutely!! 🤘🏻
Love your shows and info man. Thank you!
🙏🏻 I appreciate that!
Thank you
I don't know much about this process. I've been told that some of these under coatings are lanolin based and can actually trap water. What material did they use, Paul? Wouldn't a zinc based, rust inhibiting paint be the way to go? Thanks!
I’m not the expert, I would ask the guys at LINE-X . If the professionals use this product it should be harmful 🤷🏼♂️
I have a TRDORP 2021. i get it oil spray every year. I did it to my 2012 Taco. I live in NE Ohio. No probles if you do this. Get it done!
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How often do you see 5th gen frames needing replacement due to rust?
I’ve seen in my entire career with Toyota… Zero. But 4th gens I’ve lost count.
I’ve only been with Toyota 12 years, so most of these 5th gens are still fairly newer then 4th Gens. 🤷🏼♂️
Why does Toyota have so many rusting frames my old Chevy 2001 1500 z71 was 14 years no frame issues
They really should get a grip on that already. Such great and reliable vehicles, give it a fitting frame also. 🤷🏼♂️
Nice job. Where did you do the undercoating?
LINEX
I have been procrastinating. Especially since I had an accident last summer
Understandable, but get it done soon as you can. Hope all is well!! 💪🏻
I get the nhou undercoating and they go inside the frame and rockers ect. I spray my hitch with fluid film from the can every now and then
Very cool!
Needed more in depth information. Cost?, technique?, what material was used? How often should you do it? And most importantly why don’t the manufacturer have better rustproofing techniques?
You need to call LINE-X on that.
Manufacturers don’t want your car to last more then 10 years. 🤷🏼♂️
Invaluable info and video! Thank you!!
Would you be able to disclose which NJ Line-X `branch' did the work?
Thank you!
Sure…
LINE-X located in Bound Brook, NJ
Something I never gave any thought to.... what (beside the A/C drain) and snow/salt causes that much destruction? I live in central FL - don't hit salt water much - but lots of rain and definitely use that A/C....
It’s always good to still do undercoating, although the majority of that damage is caused by the road salt.
Which you don’t have down in Florida.
The A/C drain hose can be re-routed.
Lots of info online how to do it.
(Super simple) 😉
In Arizona it is not needed correct?
Yes and no. Metal will eventually corrode, so undercoating will ensure that won’t happen.
I just bought a 2023 TRD Off Road.. is it safe to say, my frame has some better protection that the ones from 10 years ago?
No
You need to get this done ASAP.
Frames don’t come with protection.
Actually newer metal isn't much better. The sealants maybe. The metal used is the issue and thickness.
Correct, I’ve been told the metal their using is not as strong or durable as the ones in the past.
@@VikingsGarage You had the coating done on the outside... but did they also line-x the inside of the frame or did you do something else for that?
Can you tell us approximately how much is a job like this? 3000$ sounds right?
$750
Good video , but all is depends where you live.
This is true!
Always enjoy the videos! I do have a question for you. I'm putting a new suspension on my 2023 trd Offroad premium this weekend. I've been trying to find a torque spec sheet and I'm not having much luck. I've tried the dealership and two auto parts stores. Do you have any suggestions? Thank You!
Good and tight , just use your best judgment. You should be fine.
Will this still happen if I live in an area without snow on the 4Runner?
Only in the rust belt area, places were they salt the roads to prevent freezing from happening.
agreed. This was one of my first mods. I practically drove straight to Line-X from the dealership.
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I get it!!
The added strength of LineX is amazing. There’s a reason why the pentagon uses it to line the walls of the building.
If cars sprayed LineX on inside door panels, it would reduce more injuries in accidents.
LineX is the only brand that reduces impact. I remember all the tests done 20 years ago on it. Extremely impressive brand and technology.
This is very good to know, thank you for sharing.
what kind of coating is that? is it a wax based coating ?
I don’t really remember. If you reach out to the guys at LINEX they would be able to assist you on that one.
My buddy likes the job crown rustproofing does.
Very good, the key is to getting it done.
Krown
can you do a video of aftermarket skid plates with best cat coverage that comes into your shop? for a 5th gen 4runner
I could do that, but honestly it could take me years. Most 4Runners that I work on are for the most part in stock form . 🤷🏼♂️
Dana Corp made the frames for Toyota? someone dropped the ball on quality and metallurgy in making frames for Toyota.
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So I'm sure that living outside of Dallas Texas I'm sure I'm not as likely to have these sort of frame problems as someone would in Ohio, correct?
I don’t know Sir, his hoof state within the Rust Belt area?
Any advantages to this over a fluid film like Krown? Any advantages or disadvantages either way?
My car has been Krown sprayed every year since new. It’s a 2018. I still notice a little bit of rust along seams etc. but overall it’s pretty damn clean.
Night and day difference between my wife’s car, which is around the same age and has never been sprayed
I honestly don’t know, maybe one of the viewers can better answer that.
The main disadvantage of any solid undercoating is that if water finds a way under the coating it will hold it in and speed up the rust and you won’t notice it until it fails structurally as the linex will hide it. Always go fluid
Fluid film is better. It automatically fills in holes caused by road debris scratching the bottom since it’s a liquid
What product was used on your truck Bro? And how often will you have to go back in for a retouch?
You got to call them up on that…. Info in the description
Is that a product like fluid film? Have you done a video about dropping the spare tire?
I have not done a video on that, but can certainly in the future. The actual product details , you would have to call LINE-X on that. It’s dry not wet,afterwards.
Viking, I traded in my black ‘23 40th anniversary…for a TRD Off-Road Premium, partly inspired by you. I am undercoating this baby first thing when driving off lot in 2 days (it arrives).
I don’t have KDSS and am thinking strongly to add it. I do have all other options. Good idea?
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 TRD off-road Premium, superior to the 40th . Yes undercoating a must ASAP.
Adding KDSS can be achieved but a bit costly… make sure to watch this video before going down that rabbit hole:
czcams.com/video/Ueshf401B0k/video.html
Congratulations on the new Ride! 💪🏻
(I’m flattered by your kind words)
Question......Did they also coat the inside of the frame?
It’s the outside only.
Good thing I live in the south 😊
Right on!! 🤘🏻
Keep Florida free!!
What was used to under coat
Where did you get yours done ? I want to have mine undercoated. Yours came out awesome. I appreciate your videos.
I appreciate you watching!!
Look for your nearest LINEX location.
I did mine in the one near Bridgewater NJ.
@VikingsGarage Bound Brook or 1472 US 22 ? Thanks For Responding.
@Hossman1139 I Went to the one in Bound Brook, awesome service!!
@VikingsGarage Did they remove the wheel well covers and mud flaps and sprayed in the nuts and crannies. You know what I mean. I have a 21 Tundra TRD PRO and just brought a 24 4RUNNER TRD PRO . Absolutely love them and you yes you are helping me care for them to the fullest extent. Many Thanks and Viking don't forget always Maintain !!!
Awesome video yet again! I know the the automotive organization I work with uses Line-X. I’m definitely going to reach out to them! How long did it take, and how often do you have to get it coated? I live in South Jersey.
It has to sit there for 2 solid days and it’s good for life, you do have free touch ups for life.
But has I was told, it’s not really needed.
@@VikingsGarage thank you so much!
You got it!! 👍🏻
I ordered my 22 TRD Off Road Premium exactly the way I wanted it. Only took five weeks to the day for it to come from Japan! Now I have 10500 miles on it so after Iwatched your video I decided to do the same including treating all the body and frame cavities with the VG 101 product and with the VG 160 undercoating.
Hanover Offroad in Hanover Pa. did mine and I couldn't be happier. They removed the spare tire, TRD skid plate, and wheels and covered everything that wasn't supposed to get sprayed. Real professional job!
My question is what about all the factory frame holes? My frame has 65 factory holes that I can see! Is there a reason for this? Let water escape and evaporate? I've read there is a plug kit from Toyota for $50 but I doubt there's enough plugs in one kit to do them all.
What are your thoughts in regard to your 2022?
Good question, not entirely sure why all the holes. There is a plug kit that will cover most of them. Which I will do once I treat the inside with CRC. Made a video on this:
czcams.com/video/ooLEzjpRjX4/video.html
Plugs part number in that description:
Part #04008-07735
Hey I also live in the hanover area. I just bought a 4Runner TRD off road from Hanover Toyota. It was 2019 and used. Frame looked fine, but I wanted to take it to the Hanover off road custom place to undercoat the frame. How much did it cost you if you don’t mind me asking?
@WesternRAM Congrats on the new ride!!
If I recall it was $700
That should be expensive than what the vehicle is worth? But in this market, I guess it makes sense.
@VikingsGarage Hey guy so to round it off about how much did it cost you to get this done? I have a limited with is a little longer than yours, so I called them today and all they gave me was a base starting price. I plan on getting it done because they are 1/2 an hour away from me but before I commit I thought I'd ask you how much you paid to get yours done.
Sir the LIMITED is exactly the same size.
I paid $700 for the whole thing. They do offer different products and stages.
@@VikingsGarage Thank you Sir for the timely response. Looks like I'm going to schedule mine for this spring.
@spud6603 You got it!! Best investment you can make.
Where can I find an TRD off road that’s army green? It’s insane how hard it is to find
Believe me, I couldn’t agree more!!
Took me 6 months,of looking every single day, to find this one.
So which one is better? The dealership or the private seller way? @@VikingsGarage
@Kenyanballa91 the dealership, set that search parameter on a few car buying sites along with notifications.
By the way one a good one comes up, don’t sleep on it. Leave a deposit immediately
I just bought a 2016 4Runner last month. Is it too late to do the undercoating?
Never to late, get it done.
Is there anything you told them NOT to spray? I’d hate to mess up the warranty or future maintenance.
I’d be interested too to know.
No, this stuff works to protect not damage. They do tell you to tape up whatever you don’t want sprayed.
I would call them with any further questions, super helpful.
I am the warranty 😎
My Local mechanic spayed intoframe and undercarriage body product called ( transtar amber) anybody get experience with this? Is it any good?
Toyota needs to keep the TRD colors exclusive. They ruined Moon Rock and Army Green. Kept them, and also put them on base models for 3 years...
I totally agree, they should have never done that.
What was the total cost? It looks great.
Thank you, $640 out the door. Has to stay there 48hours.
How much did they charge???
$640
Tint your front windows it will look amazing did you go to the place in Bridgewater? I need some help with my Tacoma tailgate lock 🔒 can you help me install it 😊
I did not tint my windows, as of yet.
What’s wrong with the Tailgate?
@@VikingsGarage I would like to put the toyota factory remote lock it’s a wired kit
You would have to come thru the shop, outside of work with the 2 kids, I usually got very limited free time.
How much
For the job, it was $700
I thought Toyota was done replacing frames?
It s expiring next month, last round. Then no more rust nightmares.
Wow, it’s a big wow bro, 💯 % approved good decision and I agree with l that.. our frame is the foundation. I like the way they do under coat yours bro, that’s the I am looking for here in Alberta Canada but unfortunately I can’t find one. I must do mine it’s started to rust.. it’s only 3 yrs old . By the way what kind of materials did they use or applied ? I really like the way they did. It’s looks clean .. congrats again bro. Good decision & good job to the guys who did your undercoating.👍👍👋👋😊😊
Thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah up there in Canada it’s a must do.
The reason why I don’t specify any materials used in the video is because they are their own product.
Here’s what I know:
-it’s called Valugard PF Undercoating VG-104
-it’s black wax-based formula which seals the underside
-Special Additives provide superior adhesion and resilience
Thank you so much bro.. God bless you & to your family. Stay safe always.. ( no skipping ads)👍😊
🙏🏻 Thank you!! Bless you and your family, enjoy your weekend!!
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Fluid film…..every second year.
I got a better idea. I’m gonna buy a cheap sacrificial piece of crap vehicle…and my 4Runner will never ever ever be exposed to road salt. I will always refuse to drive it until after the first rainfall after roads have been salted. If Sammy Mayday Malone can refuse to drive his Corvette at high noon…then I could refuse to expose my “Forever 4Runner” to salt!
That’s not all, the sacrificial piece of crap will also routinely share the mileage and keep the 4Runner mileage lower. It will be used for trips in congested areas with tight parking spots, and/or shady areas (in either case, situations where there’s a heightened possibility that it’ll get dinged or messed with). It will be much better on gas, so I’ll save money that way at least.
AND I’m still gonna get the frame coated with an oil based treatments!!