Trolls of Middle Earth | Tolkien Explained
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- Today, we cover the different varieties of trolls in Middle-earth: Cave-trolls, Hill-trolls, Mountain-trolls, Snow-trolls, Stone-trolls, and the dreaded Olog-hai who Sauron breeds to be resistant to sunlight!
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Stone Trolls - Bryan Bitter
Battle Troll - WETA
Armoured Troll - WETA
The Three Trolls, Culinary Disposition - Matej Cadil
The Trolls See the Dawn - Alan Lee
Troll Sat Alone on His Seat of Stone - Matej Cadil
Composition - Bryan Bitter
Twilight - Felix Englund
Treebeard - John Howe
Unquiet Woods - Sara Morello
The Three Trolls - Ralph Damiani
Hurin, Nirnaeth Arnoediad - Dracarysdrekkar7
Hurin - Steamey
Hurin's Last Stand at the Nirnaeth Arnoediad - Pete Amachree
War of Wrath - Dracarysdrekkar7
Sauron's Army - WETA
Orcs - Angus McBride
Mountain Troll - John Howe
Half-trolls - Angus McBride
Troll's Cave - Matej Cadil
The Stone-trolls - Alan Lee
Trolls - John Howe
Trolls - Ted Nasmith
Bilbo and Trolls - Elrodimus Flash
Fifth Day After Weathertop - Ted Nasmith
Hall of Moria - Alan Lee
Cave Troll - John Howe
Moria - Angus McBride
Dramatic Clouds - Felix Englund
We Must Make Ourselves Bait - Matej Cadil
Troll - JG Jones
Battle of the Black Gate - Ted Nasmith
Aragorn, son of Arathorn - Elrodimus Flash
Grond - Ralph Damiani
Grond Cradle - WETA
Snow Trolls - Turner Mohan
Helm's Last Stand - Turner Mohan
Helm Hammerhand's Last Stand - Matej Cadil
The House of Eorl, Helm Hammerhand - Aegeri
Troll Studies - Turner Mohan
Black Trolls - Angus McBride
Landscape - Anato Finnstark
Servants of Sauron - John Howe
The Siege of Gondor - Alan Lee
Morannon - Matej Cadil
Hill Troll - John Howe
The Realm of Sauron is Ended - Matej Cadil
The Shadow of Sauron - Ted Nasmith
Misty Mountains - Steve Airola
#trolls #tolkien #lordoftherings - Zábava
Sauron remains the biggest troll of Middle-earth. Dude seriously told Ar-Pharazon to go attack the Valar
The biggest troll of middle-earth wrote the script for amazon's power of the rings.
Go to Valinor and steal immortality, bro! You're stronger than Manwe, bro. Valar ain't got nothin on your huge army, bruv. Dude totally go conquer the gods themselves, bro.
@@alightinthedarkages9494 Yeah, they're totally weak, and Eru Illuvatar never pays attention anyways. You got this!
It was just a prank, bro!
Hhaha
I just realized something: If Ents get energy from sunlight, like normal trees, then what if Trolls dying in sunlight (turning into stone) is a byproduct of the "counterfeiting" or "mockery" of Morgoth? It's a parallel that might not be intentional, but it's cool either way.
Nice insight!
It does make sense.
That is a beautiful connection I'd never thought of. Well done sir!
The Anti-Ent or Bizarro-Ent.
Happily now my head-canon, neat idea!
My favorite boromir quote from the movies might just be “They have a cave troll.” I love Sean Bean’s delivery
Ones does not simply slay a cave troll
Because of course they do.
@samrameker watch Sharpe.
My favorite Boromir quote: "By the blood of our people are your lands kept safe."
Okay, thank you for your service.
I wish the rivalry between the Ents and the Trolls was more developed. I can imagine the war between the two, in which the Ents prove that they are stronger.
While reading that part I thought there would be
Always felt it could have been cooler if like elves and dwarves the initially artificially created orcs and trolls would have their own individuality as antagonists, maybe a might makes right type of deal or a feeling of being stuck as servants to sauron like how a scene in the books played out that Sauron is simply the devil they know and they expect no sympathy from elves, humans or dwarves.
Tolkein did say he wished he could have done more with orcs.
I feel like that warrents some exploration even if simply in the same spirit of the concept.
Upon reflection of the entirety of Tolkien's works I wish there was more on the ENTS!! A subplot that needed more development!!
That is the mystery of Tolkens Midfle Earth. There were so many creatures that fill a role for Good or Evil. However unlike Tolkiens Elves, Men and Hobbits, they are token creations of Mythology that exist to add credence to the story. Afterall, someone has to play the roll of bad guy... with the exception of the three Stone Trolls Bilbo Baggans meets who could of become friends.
In that old War of the Ring strategy game, they had some interesting interactions. If a troll slogged an ent, it kinda rocked a little. When the ent hit the troll, it absolutely floored it and sent it flying back.
Every time I hear “Snow Troll” I get flashbacks from my first and traumatic climb to High Hrothgar at The Throat of the World...
(Even though it’s not called that in game)
What game?
@@concept5631 Skyrim
@@JonathanGhost42 Thank ya
You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to RUN.
I Thought of the same exact thing. They were nightmare fuel early game lol
The cave troll in Jackson's fellowship is perfect. A scarier upgrade on the 3 bumblers in The Hobbit, one of whom reminds me of football manager Brendan Rogers
😂😂😂 spot on with the Brendan Rogers comparison
Joe Allen, the welsh Xavi
Looks like Brendan Rogers, sounds like Ray Winstone
in my opinion Tolkiens Trolls we’re perfectly portrayed in the Hobbit, we love you Bert ! Trolls are definitely one of the more interesting “Villians” of Middle - Earth
Many things from the "Hobbit" don't add up with the "Lord of the rings".
I liked more Olog-Hai
Rangs of powaa fan spotted
Until you watch Unexpected Journey lmao
I think the first hobbit and the LOTR trilogy both did a really good job, not a fan of the ones from battle of the five armies
As the stone trolls Bilbo encountered provef, there is another thing trolls and ents have in common: taking forever to make a decision. ;)
Tom Bert and William are the best trolls
They SO are.
In the battle of the Pelenore Fields in the Return of the King, Tolkien also refers to “half-trolls.” I was hoping to learn more about them in Thai video
I think there's quite a bit of ambiguity in that Half-orcs, and Half trolls, may well just be names for Olog-Hai and Uruk Hai. I seem to recall there as always some indication both were a result of mixing with human stock, with some being more human than others strains (hence usable as spies). The separation between the Halfs and the Hai's was more a Middle Earth Roleplaying thing IIRC, whereas as in Tolkien it kinda implies they were at least of a spectrum with the warrior Hais, rather than a seperate genus...
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The narrator refers to Men that look like half-trolls, not to actual half-trolls. And to be honest, I don't see how trolls would be biologically compatible with Men - unlike orcs, who when Tolkien wrote LotR he considered to be corrupted Elves; though it is unclear if Uruk-hai are bred with Men, since the half-orcs we see are described separately from the Uruk-hai.
Is it just me or does everyone have that voice in the back of their heads sayin “nooooo” upon seeing the duration of the vid. NODR’s work ethic and dedication to Tolkien’s work are superb that you’d wish there was a 1-hour video about anything and you’d still enjoy it. Your narration and the details u put in sums up the whole puzzle.
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Well, besides your quotation, the best evidence given about two headed trolls would be the Ettenmoors region seen on the maps, derived from the Old English word "Ettin" which has come to represent either a two-headed troll or giant in general. Even Pr. Lewis used a similar location in the Narnia Chronicles with Ettinsmoor.
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The positivity that comes out of this guy in the midst of all this negativity is what makes this my favorite channel. During the watch party when you say "It's ok to love it, it's ok to hate it, it's even ok to just like it, but let's talk about it"... that was really moving (at least for me). nothing but love for those who promote dialogue.. continued success to you good sir ❤
I like how he never crumbled in the face of all the far right culture warrior spergy hate that was levied on his channel over the last 10 months. He took the rational position (judging the show by, you know, waiting for it to be released and actually watching it himself) and never acquiesced to the hate mob like many other youtube grifters did just for views.
@@hannibalb8276 most people disliking on the show are lore purists. i can give you a list a mile long about the lore inaccuracy of the show and sadly for me and many others it pulls me out of the immersion to enjoy the show. it must be nice to blanket all hate under the guise of the far right for every bit of criticism for everything.
@@hannibalb8276 How did the contents of your skull discover and labelled that the opposition came from a "FAR RIGHT CULTURE..."? You know how you are eating a fine meal... only to bite into a completely unexpected object which didn't below to list of components on such meal? Good, now do yourself a favor.
@@hannibalb8276 all you can do is talk about the "far right", the commie channel is somewhere else, go look for it.
And again...Tolkien was a Catholic and a conservative...one of the "baddies", read something else...his work is full of nationalistic pride and love for western values..."white supremacy" in you language.
@@hannibalb8276 and by the way he's not judging impartially...he is VOLUNTARILY omitting any criticism, criticism which is necessary from someone who loves the works of Tolkien (we know Tolkien's opinion Myth and the mistreating of his work). Sorry, you are on the wrong side, the "far right" trolls are Tolkien's defenders and Amazon is a disgusting corporation corrupting this and many other channels. Irony, just like the 9 rings given to men Amazon is destroying the soul of those channels promising them worldly rewards.
I remember my reaction seeing the armored trolls for the first time in return of the king movie when the gates broke. Pretty much like Gandalf my eyes wided, and I was like OMG thats freaking awesome! Their sheer size and weapons as they tore through gondorian infantry was astonishing!
Gotta give a shout out to Pippin killing a Troll-Chief/saving Beregond at the Battle of the Morannon! In my mind it was a Olog-Hai, and I always wished that part had made it into Jackson's RotK.
Good lord, how much stuff did he change or eliminate? If Pippin didn't kill a troll, then what the heck did he do? He may as well have been sent back to the Shire.
i suppose its because beregond and his whole story isnt in the rotk, which is a shame but i suppose if they had to cut anything it makes sense
@@tedjinks9224 Beregond wasn't there too? I saw the clip where the Steward jumps off the cliff, "thus falls Denethor," but no context. Next you'll tell me they didn't have to deal with Saruman when they get back to the Shire. Kidding-I know they took that out. Still waiting for the remake.
@@sandal_thong8631 the films wouldve been about 18 hours long if they included everything from the books lmao
@@tedjinks9224 he made the Hobbit 18 hours long and that’s just one book.
They have a cave troll.
Scenario: You´re an ice troll living around the north pole, Helcaraxë maybe. It's that time of the year again, the sun literally never sets... what do you do?
Stay in your cave.
Live in Morgoth's old stronghold where a flame won't give off warmth to the hand
I can't believe that we get to listen to content of this magnitude for free.
I've always been intrigued by the idea that trolls are "counterfeits" of Ents. What does that mean exactly? Tolkien wrote that evil could not create, it could only corrupt. So Morgoth didn't create the race of trolls. Did he corrupt an existing race of peaceful creatures in the Elder Days? Or are trolls merely stone statues brought to life by evil spirits and sunlight reverts them to their original state? We really don't know much about their origins.
I personally think that, much like the orcs are a twisted version of the elves, trolls may have been created by Melkor using ents and corrupting them.
This also leads into my theory on the origin of the Olog-Hai. When Sauron burned the gardens of the ent-wives in his flight from the Last Alliance, it is possible that he captured a few of the them and after his defeat he used them to craft trolls with resistance to the sun.
@@drizzmatecI was thinking the same! After all they seem to be very similar to ents, not only the size, but also the way they look
In an early chart of different creatures, trolls are given the Qenya name maulir. Patrick H. Wynne and Christopher Gilson have suggested that maulir is possibly related to Qenya maule ("crying, weeping"), thus perhaps "referring to cries made by these monsters or to the weeping of their victims".
It is worth remembering that Tolkien took a lot of influence from Norse mythology. Norse trolls are a 'people' but they live outside of civilisation and are generally ill-natured. Later legends describes them as smaller and posibly connected to the earth. A Scandinavial legend states that lightning frightens trolls and also that the bells of churches would drive them away. Grendel (from Beowulf) may be a troll and Egil Skallagrimsson (from Egil's saga) is said to be part-troll.
Tolkien was a scholar of Old Norse and Scandinavian mythology. His trolls are almost entirely lifted from Scandinavian sagas, mythology, lore and fairytales. That they turn to stone in daylight, that they're dumb, eat humans as well as livestock, are all troll features from Scandinavian lore. Trolls also come in sizes from gorilla to as big as mountains. Indeed, the mountains of Norway were, according to lore, simply giant trolls that had turned to stone.
He seems to have missed out on one kind of troll that lived in streams and lakes, Nøkken, but otherwise they're well-covered.
Evolved trolls are entirely of Tolkien's making. Nowhere in Scandinavian lore do you find intelligent and cunning trolls. That role is reserved for Nisser and Dverger.
Can you do a video on Gondor’s navy? Did Tolkien ever write about it? Were there any naval battles in the war of the ring? Why were the corsairs able to sail unopposed into Gondor’s ports (had Aragorn and the oath breakers not come along)?
in the books there are fiefdoms on the coast and it those troops that Aragon brought to Pelennor fields not the ghosts
Your voices are really good. As a fellow human who likes to do voices, I thank you.
The snow troll scene in the first episode of rings of power give me high hopes .. which were quickly dashed 😂
Was wondering this the other day when watching The Hobbit so glad to see you got a video for it. Great works as always Matt!
I feel like lots of trolls survived the war of the ring.After all, the stone trolls would be of no use to Sauron due to their weakness of sun and low intelligence, so he probably left them in the trollshaws.Meanwhile Snow trolls again were left alone, being only good for snowy regions and so useless against Gondor or Rohan where snow is rare.Cave trolls likely stayed in the mountains and the caves, since Sauron left them there to guard that area.Hill trolls probably stayed in the hills too.Plus undoubtedly some or many would have fled upon the ring’s destruction, in the film we see the trolls running away even before the orcs do.Trolls are dumb and rather simple, most likely staying content in the remote and wild regions where they would feast on deer and the like, unlike orcs who would target villages etc because of their greater intelligence and malice.Aragorn probably was content to leave them be, and trolls in the hobbit book seem to like living in remote areas away from people generally.They likely survived further into the fourth age, maybe even surviving recent enough to the Middle Ages.
The trolls in the hobbit were literally in a path often traveled specifically to prey upon travellers... That's the whole point of why the dinner party was disturbed to find them there.
A really well constructed and informative video, thank you. The timing just makes it absolutely sublime ❤
Just want to say I just found your channel and it’s definitely something I’m going to deep dive into. Seems like a great spot for all that delicious lore that hits the spot.
Can you do the life of Bard The Bowman next he’s a character I’d like to learn more about
OMG YES PLZ! He’s my favorite character from the Hobbit
@@aaronlearns1751 Ya and a great follow-up would be the History of Dale
Thank you my friend for the great narratives whenever I feel the call of middle earth all I have to do is click your channel and here it is a totally emersive dive into the world of Tolkien, thank you for all the great videos.
I'm going to say that those trolls east of Bree will still be a nuisance for awhile, even though they don't have the will of Sauron calling them to Mordor or whatever.
I love trolls this is gonna be good!!
Another great video. Tolkien's variety of trolls is very interesting. I wish they appeared more in the stories but what is there is fantastic.
Good to see that you still produce content I can watch without getting spoilers for the Rings of Power! :)
They're not following the lore
there's even more mistakes than there was in The Lord of the Rings movie
@@BlazRa
I know that part already.
Can we appreciate how much of a grind this guy is on rn 💪 Thanks for all the content!!!
10/10 on tree beards voice 👍
As usual, Clarification is most appreciated!! An obscure corner of Tolkien's creation, but one worth the effort!! Thanks again!! I've probably written this same Kudos a dozen times......
Amazing video as always! I usually hear your videos as background music for house chores 😆 cheers!
I love this channel and I've used the lore I've learned about in an "extension" of the new shadow
Is that posted anywhere I'd love to read it
@@kylemoore687 no sorry its not finished yet
Simply the best CZcams channel on the subject!
Aw hell yeah! New video :-) Awesome as always dude.
i’m obsessed with your videos
In my opinion, trolls, along with goblins, are some of the most interesting creatures in Middle Earth.
Same, I've always found them so interesting, it's weird that Tolkien has been so incredibly influential to the fantasy genre but a lot of his central ideas like orcs and trolls as corruptions/creations of magic and his specific interpretation of their forms in general are so comparitively rare.
@@SaberRiko I agree, and I kind of like that his interpretations of said creatures are more native to Middle Earth; makes it more unique.
6:34 My ideal definition of a troll. It's the slightly thick lower lip with small tusk like teeth sticking out from behind the lower lip.
I know that it’s not that way in the books but I did love the comedic delivery of Boromir in film “they have a cave troll” 🙄
Great video brother keep ‘em coming!! Can’t get enough Tolkien lore!!
Thank you for this look into trolls. That was a fantastic summary at the end how the forth age of Middle Earth may have had trolls. As monstors of Myth they compliment the orc forces as industrialized might much like machines.
Perfect video topic imo .. many casual fans would want to know more about the lore after watching the first two episodes
Fact: trolls are often too busy on Twitter triggering different kind of NPCs, especially the cave trolls variety
Yeah, I often think that trolls in fantasy lit have nothing on internet trolls.
Gotta love that Ent voice
Jackson depicted them with perfection . I thought the baddest ones were the ones armored like Uruks
Awesome video !
I thought it would've been cool if in Peter Jackson's Battle of Five Armies instead of having were-worms burrow into the valley he should have had really big ugly trolls digging the tunnels. Heck, they could even have been called Mole Trolls, or better, Molag-hai.
Actually he was bringing in one of Tolkien's creatures, Bilbo mentions them briefly before they all leave Bag End
Nice Video, thank you! I would like to see a video about Bard the Bowman, for me a quite interesting character! 😁
God bless you man,every your video that i watch like i watch movie,well done
Snow Trolls, from the Power of the Rings, are so cool!
❤I love their depiction ❤
Their only weakness - 100 lb women.
@@Cyber_Nomad01 you have not seen what she has seen!!!!
Love your videos!!!!
What about the half-trolls of Harad? Do you think they only descriptions of humans or are they another breed of troll?
There's no other mention to half-trolls with in the History of Arda; their existence is a mere speculation.
I really like that music in background
I wish I could be a fly on the wall to hear Sauron chatting with The Mouth, the Witch-King, and one of the Blue Wizards:
"I'm bored, what do you guys want to do today? Oh, I know! Let's make a new improved breed of trolls!"
If I remember correctly theres was a mention of troll human hybryds among haradrim
GW even made miniatures of them for lotr sbg
I like the Tolkien Trolls, they’re a cool different part to have amongst the rest of the creatures of Middle-Earth 🧙♂️⛰
Keep up the content, absolutely love your videos.
Great video
Thanks!
Great video on Tolkien's troll lore.
Ents: Exist
Melkor: We do a little trollin
The three trolls in the Hobbit have the same names of my three favorite comedians, Bert Kreischer, Tom Segura, and Bill Burr.
Bill Burr voicing a troll would be hilarious
@@AlanHoey86
These fuckin HOBBITS come along, with their waistcoats and their napkins, like dude what are you doin we live in a fuckin FANTASY world, why do you have a pen!? Right?
worth mentioning about the "dumbness: of trolls: one of the 3 from the Hobbit had an enchanted bag in his pocket! and seemed enchanted for him-spoke the same- or by him!!
I like the troll with the helmet who bashes in the Gates in gondor and dies that troll was hopped up on somthing
Nice Ent voice. Well acted!
Awesome !!
I love this channel
Good stuff.
Hey Nerd of the Rings. Maybe you can make a video about "Light".
Tolkien's light is pretty different from real light. It's more solid. It hurts those who sinned. It can be preserved and reincarnated. And propably have more features i don't know.
“Trolls speak a de-based form of common”
Peter Jackson: “ *B R I T I S H* “
Tolkien is difficult one of the authors who got my imagination fired up on troll mythology. I love his interpretation of them among the trolls of warhammer.
These are some of
My top suggestions on video topics you should do 1. (Theory video) WHATEVER IF SAURON USED THE BALROG IN THE WAR OF THE RING 2. The life and travels of Frodo Baggins-you did Sam, Bilbo, pippin/merry, why not the greatest hero of the third age? 3. The life and travels of Aragon Elessar Telcontar - I mean, the two videos you did about Aragorn's travels after and before the LOTR were ok, but I believe they don't portray the significance of the heir of Elendil. 4. Theory video on the origins of the fell beasts in the style of your Tom Bombadil video-are they corrupt eagles, weak dragons, dinosaurs? 5. What if Saruman gained the one ring? 6. What if Saruman survived into the 4th age? 7.The life and travels of Eldarion, first king of the 4th age. 8.theory video about the entwives 9. Theory video on the the nazgul with unamed origins-are they haradrim, khandings, corsairs, hobbits 😁, middle men? Is the witch king of Angmar a numenorean? 10. Tour of Middle-earth during the third age 11. What happened to the dragons of the withered heath after Smaug? Did they die off, work for Sauron, get killed by Beowulf and St. George 😁? 12.video on Eru Illuvatar 13. Life of Dain Ironfoot and the dwarves of the iron hills 14. Video focusing on the men of Khand 15. The nature of the thrushes and ravens of erebor and Dale 16. The connection between the men of Dale and the men of Rohan 17. Video on Dunlendings/ruffians
Will you do a lore video on the other wildlife and monsters of middle earth?
My favorite Tolkien fact is that Bill had a last name, and it was Huggins.
In rings of power I loved the design of the snow troll honestly, and also the Hobbit's one was very good
Love your channel, keep it up mate. The positivity is needed.
or hypocrisy, you know he is pretending that sh!!t smells like lavender
@@flvflv4712 so people aren't allowed differences of opinion in your world?
@@contactlight8079 of course, hypocrisy is another thing though
The real question is, “Why aren’t you sleeping!”
The title and subject of the video immediately made me think of the more hateful aspects of the internet these days lol. A nice polite zinger.
I am happy Tolkien lore is being used as a backdrop for fantasy tales, and that the fantasy genre is being supported.
That's a hilarious observation! 😄
The first time I saw a Snow Troll was in Episode One of The Rings of Power.
Love it🥰
What is the song at the end of all your videos? It's beautiful!
What's the name of your outro theme?
I would also love some more middle earth gaming content
Very good! 👌☕️
Don't agree with your take on the rings of power but at the same time still love your channel. Don't have to agree with everything but I have enough respect as a Tolkien fan, to respect your being a Tolkien fan as well. Keep the lore vid's coming, you're damn talented at it.
I started reading the silmarillion and its so good
Thank you.
I recommend “The Legend of Olog-hai” by Bridge City Sinners.
I would absolutely love it if you narrated Tolkien's books.
Tolkien "translates" the red book of westermarch into Received Pronunciation (what Gandalf, Saruman speak), not American English (which is what the CZcams speaks).
Lovely video... that reminds me....
Anyone know by any chance the specific name of the background song that starts around 8:30 + before i start to eat my tables edge? I cant remember it to save my life.
Trolls weak to sunlight, "dull and lumpish"..damn that rings true in 2024 !
Please make a video about the Giants Of Middle Earth please
Finally some great Tolkien content not connected to TRoP.😁👍
When I saw the title I thought you were talking about the Amazon Rings of Power show runners lol
Haha, Cockney is "A debased form of the common speech."!!!