Film Theory: The Spiderman 2 Mystery! Why Spiderman Lost His Powers!

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    We've seen a lot of Spider-Man lately. Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse, Spider-Man: Homecoming, and soon Spider-Man: Far From Home. Before that we saw Andrew Garfield slinging webs with Emma Stone for a couple movies, but I want you to think FURTHER back. That's right, I'm talking Tobey Maguire Spider-Man.
    Remember how at the end of his first movie EVERYTHING had gone wrong? Norman Osborn - the Green Goblin - was gone, his best friend was fatherless, Uncle Ben did what all Uncle Ben's do, etc.. It was all very sad. In Spider-Man 2, we see a Spider-Man without his powers. I want to talk about WHY he lost his powers. What made our friendly, neighborhood Spider-Man just plain, old Peter Parker?
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  • @sirturtlethegreat7190
    @sirturtlethegreat7190 Před 5 lety +7045

    For once my childhood is improved and not brutally murdered

    • @justabean3487
      @justabean3487 Před 5 lety +143

      Ikr this movie is the best spider man movie

    • @marcusward6235
      @marcusward6235 Před 5 lety +69

      I think "embraced" is a more accurate term.

    • @javanrench2094
      @javanrench2094 Před 5 lety +30

      Sir Turtle The Great it’s impossible for a childhood to be murderd

    • @cowmoosh
      @cowmoosh Před 5 lety +43

      Good point usually MatPat turns my favorite characters into villains.

    • @insufferableanarchist
      @insufferableanarchist Před 5 lety +30

      Matpat has officially failed at his job then

  • @malikbessaadia440
    @malikbessaadia440 Před 4 lety +2909

    "Sometimes the most heroic thing you can do is taking care of yourself" - MatPat

  • @tentedeagle5401
    @tentedeagle5401 Před 2 lety +711

    (SPOILER WARNING for No Way Home!!!)
    What's cool about this video is that MatPat was right, because in No Way Home, Toby answers Tom's question about if it (webs) ever runs out. Toby answers< "Existential Crisis"

    • @zipzer5187
      @zipzer5187 Před rokem +54

      plus the other peters give tom advice on how to deal with the stress/trauma of loss

    • @Queerqueen1234
      @Queerqueen1234 Před rokem +12

      Thank you so much for the spoiler warning!☺️

    • @sayba6766
      @sayba6766 Před rokem +4

      yea

    • @ItsTropixal
      @ItsTropixal Před rokem +2

      Yeah I was hoping someone would say that!

    • @trevorrose3769
      @trevorrose3769 Před rokem +14

      I remember a scene where Andrew was asking Toby’s Spider-Man on the scaffolding about why he thought his powers were lost and I remember when Toby said, “I went through some things” I realized that line had to be a reference to this theory

  • @ronnieyates8527
    @ronnieyates8527 Před 2 lety +119

    Mat is basically right. The movie almost outright states that he was sick. From keeping his love for MJ inside, losing his best friend, the death of his uncle and the responsibility of keeping the city safe. His powers went dormant (Like how you can't smell when you catch a cold), so he took a break and discovered that there were still people out there who appreciated him and took the good he did and spread it throughout New York City. Knowing that people were still there for him, and that people still loved him gave him the strength he needed to get his powers back.

  • @leepicx1460
    @leepicx1460 Před 3 lety +2496

    This shows how Spider-man is still a human after all, he gets sick, gets tired and feel more pain when he's stressed or depressed

  • @DanielSambar
    @DanielSambar Před 5 lety +12417

    _He lost his powers due to the lack of pizza time._

  • @helencaldwell2964
    @helencaldwell2964 Před 2 lety +549

    This was outright confirmed in no way home!
    Good job, matpat!

  • @panicattheanimationstudio5673

    Spoilers!
    Matpat was more or less right. In Spiderman no way home Tobey's Peter says that he had that loss of powers due to an existential crisis

    • @MADHAV-FF007
      @MADHAV-FF007 Před 2 lety +54

      Maybe the director watched this video

    • @Jejdjejbfjf
      @Jejdjejbfjf Před 2 lety +19

      Matt mentioned PTSD, which is totally different from just an existential crisis, so I think Matt was totally wrong.

    • @jillyanconnell3212
      @jillyanconnell3212 Před 2 lety +12

      pretty much, they also talked about web blockage which could've also caused it

    • @wolfy.makes.art._
      @wolfy.makes.art._ Před 2 lety +4

      I was just thinking the exact same thing lol

    • @Jejdjejbfjf
      @Jejdjejbfjf Před 2 lety +7

      @@eduardosantiago6948 existential crisis and ptsd can be totally different… the latter is a mental illness term which should not be used loosely. Maybe do some research on mental health first before using these terms.

  • @samuelneil2691
    @samuelneil2691 Před 4 lety +3597

    This theory makes the movies feel so much deeper emotionally.

    • @wisespidey
      @wisespidey Před 3 lety +6

      Ikr

    • @user-kx8pu6ys5i
      @user-kx8pu6ys5i Před 3 lety +30

      Surprisingly so yeah

    • @nathannilson4392
      @nathannilson4392 Před 3 lety +40

      I know. The MCU lacks this kind of stuff.

    • @joahanramirez5811
      @joahanramirez5811 Před 3 lety +13

      Oh man, we're all like Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man. We all just young adults trying to figure it out.

    • @swinepine
      @swinepine Před 3 lety +10

      @@nathannilson4392 Tony Stark's character arc was emotional.

  • @MattMann-cr2nj
    @MattMann-cr2nj Před 3 lety +3503

    Matpat: let's say what a great year 2018 was
    Me in 2020: enjoy it, it won't last.

  • @II_worm_II
    @II_worm_II Před 2 lety +39

    2 years later and Mat Pat was right in No way Home Tobey says he had Web block (power lose) due to "existential crisis stuff"

    • @reeddeer9737
      @reeddeer9737 Před 2 lety +1

      cool a spoiler
      nice to know tobey's in spider-man 3 :/

    • @buddy1852
      @buddy1852 Před 2 lety +4

      @@reeddeer9737 The movie has been out for a month and I wouldn't be on the internet too much if I really dont want a movie spoiled. Plus if you have to be on the internet I wouldn't watch a video on a character highly rumored to return.

  • @baljeetbavde
    @baljeetbavde Před 2 lety +97

    imagine how happy he will be when he sees his theory being proven right in no way home

  • @MyHeadsHollow
    @MyHeadsHollow Před 4 lety +1340

    *uses game theory logo for film theory intro*
    Me: what sorcery is this!?!

  • @mattrichmond4636
    @mattrichmond4636 Před 4 lety +1761

    MJ: Do you love me?
    Peter: I-
    *ad appears*

    • @axfinity9134
      @axfinity9134 Před 4 lety +164

      Peter: I - I use Audible everyday, and listen to their collection of over 1,000 audiobooks

    • @favianguerra8954
      @favianguerra8954 Před 4 lety +21

      It happened to me too

    • @kateliu5476
      @kateliu5476 Před 4 lety +42

      i- use treseme hair care

    • @mars1336
      @mars1336 Před 4 lety +10

      I-I love pizza more than u

    • @hhh-sg2bu
      @hhh-sg2bu Před 4 lety +2

      ]

  • @kk_jacket6797
    @kk_jacket6797 Před 2 lety +107

    You can also see this in Spiderman: Far From Home, where Tom Holland's spiderman couldn't use his spider senses.
    It's because he too also went through a traumatic event, His own Death and Iron Man's, this is more than just a theory, its spot on.

    • @irisbutterfly4845
      @irisbutterfly4845 Před rokem +3

      Wait. Are you talking about the banana?

    • @pharaohatem6962
      @pharaohatem6962 Před rokem +4

      It was only until he accepted his flaws and became his own person that he got full control of them

  • @Thatonecalled_neon
    @Thatonecalled_neon Před 11 měsíci +6

    Funny thing is, my mom was studying medicine when I first watched the second movie as a kid, and she already solved it before this theory came out. She said that Peter wasen't eating well and feelinf sad(Simple words for a child) wich may mean depression and eating disorders.

  • @filipman
    @filipman Před 4 lety +1388

    Also the doctor from Spider-Man 2 said it was psychological

    • @Tsimon206
      @Tsimon206 Před 4 lety +40

      I know I was about to say that

    • @clipboss8052
      @clipboss8052 Před 3 lety +9

      I mean yeah, but he never explains in what form. I knew there was guilt and anxiety, but this theory gave me a whole new way of looking at these scenes from Spider-Man 2.

    • @Zer0Fox_gibbon
      @Zer0Fox_gibbon Před 3 lety +9

      True, but it wasn't fully explain d beyond 'psychological' that's a base term, like if you were to ask someone what car they have and they respond with 'one with wheels'

    • @filipman
      @filipman Před 3 lety +1

      lee walker true

    • @kevinw712
      @kevinw712 Před 3 lety +3

      yeah this almost sort of feels like a "midichlorians" kind of thing, like it's not needed to get THIS specific on why/how something is. An average viewer can extrapolate from the psychological reasoning given in the movie to what more it could mean to have it be plenty reasonable to appreciate the movie and not feel like something substantial was left too ambiguous.

  • @ethanterrell6359
    @ethanterrell6359 Před 3 lety +1975

    Writers of Spider-man 2: Uh, sure this is how he got his powers back.

  • @Thecloaker_
    @Thecloaker_ Před 2 lety +25

    “A mystery i think i can solve today”
    No way home:
    “Funny you mention that i actually did have a web block.”
    “Oh really? Why?”
    “Existential crisis”
    Love how you do all this work then in no way home he just says existential crisis as to why he loses his power.

    • @dafilmqueen556
      @dafilmqueen556 Před rokem +2

      But an existential crisis could also be caused by PTSD. He had no self-love or self-identity for himself that time, maybe that's why he had an existential crisis.

  • @lettuce1626
    @lettuce1626 Před 2 lety +9

    They mentioned this in no way home!! He talked about existential crisis but probably wasn’t accurate just because he didn’t wanna talk too much about it

  • @turtle9400
    @turtle9400 Před 3 lety +1094

    Wasn’t there a line of Otto saying bottling up love can make you sick, which was exactly what Peter did

    • @alfred3842
      @alfred3842 Před 2 lety +7

      Which Otto tho?

    • @Mrjer8
      @Mrjer8 Před 2 lety +12

      Yea that’s how he lost his powers

    • @kostadim7892
      @kostadim7892 Před 2 lety +7

      @@alfred3842 which Otto? The one in the movie genius

    • @johnyt657
      @johnyt657 Před 2 lety +3

      @@kostadim7892 He means was it Otto or the Tentacles who said it 🤦‍♂️

    • @kostadim7892
      @kostadim7892 Před 2 lety +3

      @@johnyt657 Lmfao alright buddy, first I’ve heard people refer to the guy as two different people

  • @peterwilson5307
    @peterwilson5307 Před 5 lety +556

    *I'LL GET MY POWERS WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR*

  • @retrocadeza
    @retrocadeza Před 9 měsíci +4

    The emotional trauma reasoning has been prevalent throughout Spider-Man 2, I get the whole first movie emotional connections but they made sure to make it known in way more subtle ways in spiderman 2. He kept takings L’s till he threw away his suit.

  • @IzzuZiq
    @IzzuZiq Před 2 lety +8

    One thing to note is that even in the comics, Peter at one point does lose his powers due to mental stress. Not as badly as in the Raimi movies, but it proves this plot point has its basis in the source material and the movie kinda sorta hints to his powers being tied to his mental state. Just not explicit and of course, like other recent comments, is confirmed in No Way Home.
    Speaking of No Way Home, that whole thing at the end about saving oneself mentally is also lowkey a thing Tobey kept in mind in-universe, considering in NWH, he made sure his other selves are mentally going to be in a better place and that's beautiful

  • @rager5600
    @rager5600 Před 5 lety +696

    "Good year"
    •He dies in Infinity War
    •He loses his aunt
    •Both of his creators die in the same year

    • @sparten320
      @sparten320 Před 5 lety +34

      i dont know if you play video games but 2018 was also a really bad year for video games sure spiderman game did well but that doesnt address all the stuff that happens in the background of other companies

    • @roboknightt04
      @roboknightt04 Před 5 lety +8

      he loses HER aunt?

    • @gravelfilledSoap
      @gravelfilledSoap Před 5 lety

      Oof

    • @rager5600
      @rager5600 Před 5 lety

      @@roboknightt04 Fixed

    • @fydeless4812
      @fydeless4812 Před 5 lety +6

      Dude..... thanks for the spoiler alert.
      I haven’t finished Spider-Man ps4 yet. Really work on putting spoiler warnings.

  • @KusogakiRenfir
    @KusogakiRenfir Před 5 lety +503

    Not paying your rent = No powers.

  • @aratamyat6714
    @aratamyat6714 Před rokem +5

    This is, and still is, my favourite theory. It shows that peter is still a human, but a hero in helping himself and really should have been mentioned in the movie. The theory anit anything outlandish or extra, but a simple theory that makes Spider Man have so much more to think about and truly is a role model.

  • @dafilmqueen556
    @dafilmqueen556 Před rokem +3

    I love it when he said "turn people into spooky scary skeletons" in reference to the scene that has traumatized me since the first time I saw the first film. And I can't help but lose it when he says "give that man a Tony". 😅

  • @dashever7345
    @dashever7345 Před 5 lety +1347

    2009 - We will have flying cars i the future
    2019 - We figured out why spiderman from 14 years ago lost his powers

  • @purplewaffles5480
    @purplewaffles5480 Před 4 lety +2115

    I think you meant "the boys", not the sinister six

    • @samx23
      @samx23 Před 4 lety +4

      Uhh..

    • @spartan113ish
      @spartan113ish Před 4 lety +34

      That shitty meme didn't exist when this video came out.

    • @boeyzhang8565
      @boeyzhang8565 Před 4 lety

      666

    • @MrMetalStrike
      @MrMetalStrike Před 4 lety +4

      Is that a reference to the books/amazon prime show named “The Boys”?

    • @glados8699
      @glados8699 Před 4 lety +4

      Me and yhe boys deffeting spider man

  • @LegoSpidermanFan
    @LegoSpidermanFan Před 11 měsíci +3

    I always viewed it somewhat similarly. I just saw it as he lost his will to be spider-man. He stopped being motivated to do it and his body responded.
    Movies kind of do that sometimes, like in revenge of the sith padme loses the will to live but it’s never really dived into

  • @rayeittastay2458
    @rayeittastay2458 Před 2 lety +19

    This episode actually helped me out a lot in my personal life. I liked that the topic of mental health was (theoretically) the focus of a superhero movie years before Tony Stark in Iron Man 3. I started researching depictions of mental health struggles and actual treatments used in the films, which led me to Cinema Therapy.
    If you don't know them, then you should go check them out. They talk about all types of things like how Edward and Jacob are totally abusive dickholes, to Aragorn being an idol of healthy masculinity. Hearing John and Alan talking about and even openly showing emotions made me start to take a serious look at myself. Which has then led me to making some pretty big revelations about myself. I won't go into much details but now I can say that I'm truly happy with my sexuality as an openly bisexual man.
    All of that, because I saw MatPat cover a topic that truly captured my attention and that's not a theory.

  • @shizukousapostle1stapostle710

    2:29..... *If his powers wasn't working there.... That's definitely a cracked spine with lower body paralysis.*

  • @amkamirin
    @amkamirin Před 5 lety +464

    Jokes aside this is the most wholesome video about a superhero suffering from mental health I have ever seen.
    It may not the original intention of the director or it was either one this put in an even better depth of the Spiderman trilogy and made the second one (which it could be the best out of all three) even better than before.

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank Před 5 lety +1

      You need to watch more videos about superheroes and mental issues. Cause ones that actually talk about it rather than presenting a theory and having a side objective of talking about the actual mental health stuff as well... Well, the point is one's that focus on the mental health and illustrations of the inner struggle of the hero exist.

    • @klop4228
      @klop4228 Před 5 lety

      @Veit Zeret As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the movie about PTSD, at the very least?

    • @bernarda9084
      @bernarda9084 Před 5 lety +2

      @@klop4228 there is, imagine being at fault or feeling at fault for the death of both your father figures. He has recurring dreams, and so on. Even in the comics, mental stress causes him to lose his power

  • @therapywithsenny1449
    @therapywithsenny1449 Před 2 lety +5

    I like to think it’s like emotional ED. The night he lost his powers, all within 5 minutes MJ scolded and rejected him, Harry slapped him, John announced MJ had agreed to marry him, and Jonah made Peter photograph MJ and John kissing.

  • @kadennorris7585
    @kadennorris7585 Před 2 lety +2

    I cant belive that this theory was proved 2 years after this was uploaded. In Spider-Man No Way Home toby Miguire tells the other 2 spidies about how he lost his powers for a while, they asked why and he sayed AND I QUOTE "existential crisist"

  • @TheGap1952
    @TheGap1952 Před 5 lety +613

    Spiderman 1: Peter trying to deal with the responsibilities of having great power and coming to terms with his uncle's violent death
    Spiderman 2: Peter trying to recover from PTSD while having to face a new villain and the alienation of his childhood love
    Spiderman 3: Jazz Dance

    • @anthonyshepherd265
      @anthonyshepherd265 Před 5 lety +16

      A.H “now dig on this”

    • @unoreversecard8129
      @unoreversecard8129 Před 5 lety +18

      SpiderMan 4 - I don’t feel so gooooood

    • @davidbrown8258
      @davidbrown8258 Před 5 lety +1

      Fire ring

    • @suitingpizza1117
      @suitingpizza1117 Před 5 lety +3

      Spider-man 3: finds out who his uncle's killer really was, was a doche when he hand the black suit, his Co worker gets killed and his best friend dies
      (I have watched the sam raimi spider-man moives so many time, I know what I am talking about)

    • @arcticgaming6812
      @arcticgaming6812 Před 5 lety +4

      spiderman 2: pizza time

  • @moistfist1054
    @moistfist1054 Před 5 lety +277

    I honestly thought he was gonna say something like "He lost his powers because he was not eating his own webs like a real spider"

  • @FlyntPrince
    @FlyntPrince Před 2 lety +6

    Great video! I never really stopped and thought about the mental health. Just goes to show you how well these films were made back then. I always thought it was a great "if this be my destiny" moment. Peter loses his powers and it was the people that brought him back. He cant stop a mugging, saves a child from a burning building, only to find out there was still one more person in there. MJ gets kidnap, fights doc ock on the train, finally saves the people and then it's the people that save him from falling off the train. That's when he knew this was his destiny. Saves the girl he loves and then shes at his doorsteps. MJ comforts him and makes him feel so secure and content with his life. Maybe that's why he was so arrogant and cocky in the third movie.. Love the rami films, I could watch them over and over again and still enjoy them

  • @blasterbolt734
    @blasterbolt734 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Actually the reason for his power loss is because he didn't admit his feelings, and when he sees the one he loves in danger, that's how he gets his powers back

  • @UserName-me7pj
    @UserName-me7pj Před 4 lety +369

    Bruh, this time you actually improved my childhood rather than brutally ripping it to shreds

    • @UserName-me7pj
      @UserName-me7pj Před 4 lety +4

      @@ChickenNuggets-jf5uf shup ut noob, you mad cuz i got u xd

    • @AceofHarmony
      @AceofHarmony Před 4 lety +2

      Chicken Nuggets I shall eat da nuggets

    • @SoulbroStudios
      @SoulbroStudios Před 4 lety +1

      What is going on in this thread? 😂

    • @aadibelhe6957
      @aadibelhe6957 Před 4 lety +2

      this is a copied comment guys

  • @talir9349
    @talir9349 Před 5 lety +730

    Please do a theory on how many balloons are needed for the Up house to fly

    • @TonyRodriges
      @TonyRodriges Před 5 lety +32

      That’s more of a SCIENCE (Austin of course) thing if you ask me

    • @Kkmeow4
      @Kkmeow4 Před 5 lety +6

      K how many yt accts do you need me to make to like this so mat pat sees this cause I totally want this to happen

    • @TonyRodriges
      @TonyRodriges Před 5 lety +10

      @Fiverumble not insulted just very very disappointed 😔 (it’s ok we all got different opinions)

    • @raleightutt7059
      @raleightutt7059 Před 5 lety +4

      I've done those calculations, actually, it's around 6 million

    • @juanluisizboss5815
      @juanluisizboss5815 Před 5 lety +1

      OVER 9000!!!

  • @HeyItsEquin
    @HeyItsEquin Před 2 lety +4

    I love how in the beginning instead of putting a real spider, so that people with arachnophobia dont get scared he got lucas instead

  • @joshuachristopher9752
    @joshuachristopher9752 Před 2 lety +7

    Existential crisis

  • @trav3226
    @trav3226 Před 3 lety +453

    Harry: Spider-Man will pay
    Spider powers: sorry peter I need to save both of us

  • @goodydrew3488
    @goodydrew3488 Před 5 lety +292

    Mat pat if Tobey Maguires Spider-Man universe was real you would definitely be a good therapist for Peter Parker

    • @blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543
      @blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543 Před 4 lety +6

      Erick Mii not agreeing and thinking a theory is bad are two different things just so your aware.

  • @SinisterPixel
    @SinisterPixel Před 2 lety +3

    They actually address the reason why in Spider-Man 2 albeit very briefly. When Peter is talking to octavius about his love life, octavius mentions that matters of the heart can weigh a person down and manifest into physical weight. Both times he lost his powers were in direct response to complications with MJ.

  • @amoghverma3108
    @amoghverma3108 Před 2 lety +2

    Even heroes suffer depression.
    I remember how Tony Stark used to cry in Pepper's arms in anxiety...

  • @just-a-silly-goofy-guy
    @just-a-silly-goofy-guy Před 5 lety +1664

    He lost his powers when he felt not so good

    • @bucket1442
      @bucket1442 Před 5 lety +17

      Too soon.

    • @justan-eli9262
      @justan-eli9262 Před 5 lety +6

      But did we need a therory to tell us that? Thanks for confirming it but we kinda get it implied by his professor

    • @SkyorSomethin
      @SkyorSomethin Před 5 lety +5

      To fast to meme

    • @jackdam1882
      @jackdam1882 Před 5 lety +2

      jep,realy stupid from him i mean i was a kid and understand it.

    • @shadowa753
      @shadowa753 Před 5 lety +1

      @@justan-eli9262 I wish I just got this comment in my sub feed instead. Would have saved me nearly 15 mins

  • @jimbojackson4045
    @jimbojackson4045 Před 3 lety +398

    You forgot another traumatic event. Aunt Mae gets hospitalized by Gobby at his own house.

    • @Doom-hd9of
      @Doom-hd9of Před 3 lety +8

      was that directly or indirectly correlated to himself (I'm genuinely asking idk)?

    • @jimbojackson4045
      @jimbojackson4045 Před 3 lety +33

      @@Doom-hd9of Yeah. Gobby found out who he was and did that to send a message. Then he went to kidnap MJ.

    • @nkjellman
      @nkjellman Před 2 lety +13

      Not to mention the events in the early part of the movie where Doc Oc showed up at the bank and kidnapped Aunt Mae and Spider Man had to save her.

    • @someweirdcatontheinternet8590
      @someweirdcatontheinternet8590 Před 2 lety +1

      🗿

  • @AASteve_Plasma
    @AASteve_Plasma Před 2 lety +3

    When I was younger, I was also think about this "emotional trauma effect situation" to Peter's power and how he lost his power base on metal health ... Now MattPat detailed it more clear and more scientifical, added with nostalgia and theory :0

  • @faisalabdurrahman2029
    @faisalabdurrahman2029 Před 2 lety +4

    in spiderman:no way home, tobey says before the finale battle that he couldn't use his powers because of "existensial dread"

  • @mr.romaro3422
    @mr.romaro3422 Před 5 lety +591

    The real question in the movie is can you make and deliver 8 extra large deep dish pizzas across 42 blocks in New York in 29 minutes

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank Před 5 lety +15

      ... has anyone tried to figure this out? Cuz now I'm really curious.

    • @PanthereaLeonis
      @PanthereaLeonis Před 5 lety +4

      those 42 blocks, are they the total distance traveled in taxicab geometry? I believe you can, I just have to get my numbers straight. Also, I didn't watch the movies, what vehicle is he using? Ohh... I also ahve to factor in the traffic in New York. I assume this pizza delivery was in the evening, since that's when most people want their pizza.

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank Před 5 lety +3

      @@PanthereaLeonis He had a moped.

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank Před 5 lety

      And I don't remember any other answers to your questions, but the sun was up in that scene.

    • @Konohamaru333
      @Konohamaru333 Před 5 lety

      @@PanthereaLeonis You're not taking into account the time it takes to make the pizzas

  • @thushanipremarathne6566
    @thushanipremarathne6566 Před 3 lety +804

    I kinda miss the old spider man. It kinda gives me a bit of nostalgia.

  • @leannkennett905
    @leannkennett905 Před 2 lety +3

    Well in the comics Peter Parker looses his powers off and on for a while when he begins to mutate into the man/spider and Dr Connors has to help him return to his version of “normal”. They certainly could have been setting up for that.

  • @pepekovallin
    @pepekovallin Před rokem +1

    This video made me realize that my OC's tragic story and his psychology actually makes a lot of sense and I'm proud I made something solid without prior knowledge

  • @just-a-silly-goofy-guy
    @just-a-silly-goofy-guy Před 5 lety +1676

    The lack of pizza time caused him to lose them

  • @foresstfire23
    @foresstfire23 Před 5 lety +3763

    Peter Parker got Petey-SD

  • @victordelgado670
    @victordelgado670 Před 2 lety +5

    Isn’t there a whole scene that explains why he lost his powers? When he’s a the doctors the doctor literally tells him he’s been over working himself and stressing him Self out

    • @shaylus_4158
      @shaylus_4158 Před 2 lety +1

      The doctor doesn't know he has powers dumbass

    • @victordelgado670
      @victordelgado670 Před 2 lety +2

      @@shaylus_4158 he heavily implies that he knows dumbass

    • @dennissaunders813
      @dennissaunders813 Před 2 lety

      I was thinking the exact same thing. It’s not spelled out in the movie(a lot of things in movies aren’t) but he tells the doctor “in my friends dream I’m Spider-Man” so I can’t imagine the doctor actually thinks a healthy 20-something year old man is looking for medical advice because of a friends dream.

  • @lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198

    I'm rewatching the Spider-Man films and am on the second film and just wondered this question and remembered that matpat did a film theory on it! Thanks Matpat!

  • @marvelhunter3076
    @marvelhunter3076 Před 4 lety +498

    Doc ock said that if he held love inside.. He would get sick, so he did. His love for mary jane deeply affected him.

    • @andrewcooper1565
      @andrewcooper1565 Před 4 lety +8

      That's honestly what I thought

    • @imijbeats8129
      @imijbeats8129 Před 3 lety +8

      He should’ve had a love for a different Mary Jane, maybe he woulda been fine

    • @onekthmatt
      @onekthmatt Před 3 lety +16

      This can still be true but coincide with the theory. He loves Mary Jane and wants to distance himself from her because he doesn't want to go through losing her like he did Uncle Ben, and her life was already threatened once. So she's both a part of his past trauma, and her well being is a huge focus of the anxieties that his PTSD brings about.

    • @Herofromthesky
      @Herofromthesky Před 3 lety +5

      Also I’m pretty sure that since he didn’t want to be Spider-Man anymore his powers went away.

    • @leejohnstone9047
      @leejohnstone9047 Před 3 lety

      Exactly

  • @Kevzza
    @Kevzza Před 5 lety +438

    He lost his powers when he doubted himself and his soul reason to be Spider-man.
    "If you keep something as complicated as love stored up inside.... it's gonna make you sick."

    • @CEFG100
      @CEFG100 Před 5 lety +3

      spiderman11915 Yep

    • @savefluffy1276
      @savefluffy1276 Před 5 lety +6

      Ha nerd (sorry I just wanted to say that)

    • @Kevzza
      @Kevzza Před 5 lety +3

      @@savefluffy1276 None taken!

    • @oliveruwu5784
      @oliveruwu5784 Před 5 lety +2

      spiderman11915
      Your photo is so ironic

    • @adamwood2988
      @adamwood2988 Před 5 lety +3

      Yes there should t have been a video on this at all

  • @SilverMeg57
    @SilverMeg57 Před 2 lety +1

    I know it’s been a while, but I think him seeing Otto Octavius (his idol) turn into Doc Oct, just like Norman became Green Goblin might have also pushed that PTSD. Great theory as always.

  • @rogueguardian
    @rogueguardian Před 2 lety +1

    You know I think this explained why spider-man always help me through hard moments in my life, he's literally gone through some of the same stuff I have, losing a family member being disconnected from Friends. I know what that feels like.

  • @marcusmacinnis8067
    @marcusmacinnis8067 Před 4 lety +384

    matpat predicted what's happening to spider-man's "Peter Tingle" 6 months before far from home even came out

    • @i8chocolatecake995
      @i8chocolatecake995 Před 4 lety +4

      Marcus MacInnis lol lol lol lol lol lol im ded

    • @slovakianpsycho
      @slovakianpsycho Před 4 lety +5

      @Nathan Hannon aunt may called it Peter Tingle

    • @logbobtom1234
      @logbobtom1234 Před 4 lety +2

      Nathan Hannon did you even watch the movie

    • @cinimod1727
      @cinimod1727 Před 4 lety +4

      I hate that it's called "Peter tingle"

    • @AbruptEcho
      @AbruptEcho Před 4 lety +4

      Don’t say peter tingle it’s disrespectful

  • @armaanbal6005
    @armaanbal6005 Před 5 lety +868

    This video will get monetized when you fix this DAMN DOOR!!!

  • @kytkeyboardsyoureterrific439
    @kytkeyboardsyoureterrific439 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I rewatched this so many times but I finally liked it because it's so good and gives a nice lesson

  • @juniper3526
    @juniper3526 Před 2 lety +4

    The way he was actually right- they confirmed it in the new movie

  • @norasehestedt9624
    @norasehestedt9624 Před 5 lety +367

    I have been kinda waiting on a Mr. Bean theory. I mean, in the intro, he is an alien dropping from his ship, sooooooo......oh well. Mr. Bean will have to wait I guess........

    • @Eric-dn9bx
      @Eric-dn9bx Před 5 lety +12

      Wow now IM waiting for a Mr. Bean theory lmao.

    • @MortyKaiShalom
      @MortyKaiShalom Před 5 lety +7

      You know... I never considered that may have been a UFO...

    • @sadkeo_
      @sadkeo_ Před 5 lety +2

      Now i am

    • @unit03
      @unit03 Před 5 lety +4

      YES for the Mr. Bean Theory!!!
      Why is he so socially unaware!!!?

    • @spiderboyreal
      @spiderboyreal Před 5 lety +2

      He became a superhero too. He was bitten by a spider plant. And so his cells mutated and became known as Spiderplant-Man

  • @abelsm6270
    @abelsm6270 Před 4 lety +855

    Marvel character: *breathes
    Matpat: WRITE THAT DOWN *WRITE THAT DOWN*

  • @eduardoluna3897
    @eduardoluna3897 Před 11 měsíci +1

    "GET DUNKED ON ANDREW GARFIELD!"
    had me laughing so hard at the gym I had to stop lifting for a few minutes and everyone looked at me like I was crazy

  • @justinarney3050
    @justinarney3050 Před 2 lety +2

    well if you've read the comics a similar event does happen where Peter doesn't want to be Spiderman anymore and in doing so eventually loses his powers. This comic was made to represent Stan Lee's own troubles of wanting to give up on making comics before he made Spiderman.

  • @RandomGuy9O9
    @RandomGuy9O9 Před 5 lety +381

    I have a good idea for a theory. How much money has Jim from the office spent through the nine seasons on pranking Dwight?

    • @elisabethochoa1125
      @elisabethochoa1125 Před 5 lety +16

      Manis Tiwari loveeeeeee thisssss. Literally any office theory is a good theory in my book.

    • @RandomGuy9O9
      @RandomGuy9O9 Před 5 lety +7

      Elisabeth Ochoa ya I just watched the office again and seeing all the pranks on Dwight, my inner theorist woke 😁😁

    • @Ravathiel
      @Ravathiel Před 5 lety +14

      the cost of all of Jim's pranks to total a whopping $5,590.95 ]
      so Reddit says

    • @cocopots
      @cocopots Před 5 lety +5

      @@Ravathiel and it was probably worth every penny.

    • @dumbname939
      @dumbname939 Před 5 lety +4

      Elisabeth Ochoa I have an Office theory. What is the best printer?
      Ohhhhhhh you mean the show. I get it.

  • @sohamk7962
    @sohamk7962 Před 5 lety +250

    Peter lost his powers because of pizza time and got them back because of cake and milk. It was very obvious

    • @wade-potato6200
      @wade-potato6200 Před 5 lety

      Do doooooooooo Do do do do do do do do do 'do' ·do· .do. .do... 'do' ·do· .do. .do...

    • @Cj-xt6tv
      @Cj-xt6tv Před 5 lety +1

      soham kochikar Best comment ever. 👏🏼

    • @rungaterah1942
      @rungaterah1942 Před 5 lety +3

      I used to legit think it was the cake and milk that gave him his powers back.

    • @Cj-xt6tv
      @Cj-xt6tv Před 5 lety +2

      Rungatera H probably not the literal cake and milk but the sentiment that someone gave him cake and milk.

    • @rungaterah1942
      @rungaterah1942 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Cj-xt6tv No, I legit thought it was the physical cake and milk.
      But yea the sentiment was present at the time which was really nice. 👍

  • @rodrigobenavides9702
    @rodrigobenavides9702 Před rokem +1

    the "He Has Memorized Mario's Height" part completly killed me

  • @cookkabunggaming1569
    @cookkabunggaming1569 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thi video just shows u how nice spider man is after everything he’s been through he still makes jokes all the time.

  • @djseanyd91
    @djseanyd91 Před 3 lety +780

    When you slowly realize MatPat not only diagnosed Peter with emotional trauma, but you as well...I need help 😔

    • @smoovadatious2356
      @smoovadatious2356 Před 3 lety +45

      Seriously, same here. however, if you can fight the depression and start working out, it helped me a lot!! It was really hard to actually get out and start, and I’m not really sure what it is about exercise, but that really helped my mental health. Also, start small by making sure to make your bed every morning. I know it sounds dumb and insignificant but it goes a long way. It gives you a small psychological boost to start your day. Once done, it releases a small amount of endorphins from completing a task. That’s why made beds are such a big thing in the military, it breeds discipline. Its your first task of day, and if you can’t complete that task ,how do you expect to complete the others of the day. And worse case scenario, if you have a bad day, you come home to a made Bed :) . Wish you the best stranger.

    • @ITheLoZKingI
      @ITheLoZKingI Před 3 lety +25

      Realizing that you need help is the first step to getting it. It's up to you to figure out and decide how to get it. Whether through self-care with exercise and such, or reaching out to others, friends, family, or even a therapist, I hope you find something that works for you. Conditions like yours, and like mine, are real issues, and it's okay to care about yourself and your needs.

    • @anastasiaraelajynn
      @anastasiaraelajynn Před 3 lety +17

      I will be praying for you. While I don't know exactly what you're going through, I do know that Jesus will always be there for you, no matter what, no matter who else fails you. Just run to him.
      God bless.

    • @lex.is.ordinary
      @lex.is.ordinary Před 3 lety +2

      That was my exact thought.

    • @beanface7408
      @beanface7408 Před 3 lety +4

      Sorry, I liked this comment just for you.

  • @solantir3243
    @solantir3243 Před 5 lety +376

    The superhero's having their own problems in their life. Just like Stan Lee used to make them. I'm proud.

  • @BrickArt-hk1or
    @BrickArt-hk1or Před dnem

    “Get dunked on Andrew Garfield!!!”
    Had me dying. You will be missed matpat

  • @bladelazar1262
    @bladelazar1262 Před 2 lety +1

    If you think about it Tobey himself confirmed that it was an existential crisis that caused him to temporarily lose his powers

  • @mustafabarry4719
    @mustafabarry4719 Před 5 lety +709

    This is 10 years late, but can matpat do a film theory on the movie Coraline?

    • @tay7300
      @tay7300 Před 5 lety +9

      I'd agree

    • @didgy8674
      @didgy8674 Před 5 lety +4

      I dispiced that movie

    • @SPcamert
      @SPcamert Před 5 lety +8

      If there's one thing I've learned it's that there is no statute of limitations on theories.

    • @ugandanknuckles9355
      @ugandanknuckles9355 Před 5 lety +7

      Just watch _The Theorizer_ he's already done it and to a much better extent than mat does from reddit.

    • @rotodexthepaleontologist2267
      @rotodexthepaleontologist2267 Před 5 lety +15

      that one dude
      You what now? Dispiced? Took away the spice?

  • @ianis5631
    @ianis5631 Před 3 lety +441

    Could it be that peter unconsciously turned off his powers since he blamed himself and his powers on harry's dad's death? Could he have thought " if it weren't for these powers, harry's dad would stll be alive" and unintentionally turned them off?

    • @ajaegamesshorts
      @ajaegamesshorts Před 2 lety +32

      @Ren At His Prime kinda like he can stick and unstick to walls at will or barely thinking about it it just happens naturally

    • @Butter-Milk
      @Butter-Milk Před 2 lety +12

      That happened in the comics! The Amazing Spider-Man Annual issue 1. First apperance of the Sinister Six, I think.

    • @HullsColby
      @HullsColby Před 2 lety +6

      @Ren At His Prime I mean, his powers is very biological just like the old comics.
      You've seen Tom and Andrew's iteration right? The ones that follows the modern Spider-Man where they need gadgets so that they could use their powers properly.

    • @doctorstrange2451
      @doctorstrange2451 Před 2 lety +4

      Spider-Man was dependent on tech from the start his web shooters were always there. Organic web shooters didn't appear in comics until after the movies.

    • @HullsColby
      @HullsColby Před 2 lety +1

      @@doctorstrange2451 What about the time he did have organic webbings in the comics? Was that after the Sam-Raimi movies?

  • @mudalad1215
    @mudalad1215 Před 2 lety +2

    Cannonically, MCU cannonically, it was only a web blockage caused by an existential crisis.

  • @yellowtheexpert5855
    @yellowtheexpert5855 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Nah, this guy predicted canon events.

  • @Lightning5717
    @Lightning5717 Před 4 lety +358

    Hey, MatPat... Speaking of the Green Goblin, can you do a theory on his Goblin Glider? On whether if something like that could exist and work like in the movies/comics?

    • @andrepopcorn4356
      @andrepopcorn4356 Před 4 lety +11

      Dont they have something like that in France now or something

    • @iarooz2189
      @iarooz2189 Před 4 lety +7

      @@andrepopcorn4356 Yeah, its a new weapon in their military.

  • @TainoMoya
    @TainoMoya Před 5 lety +470

    that intro was beautiful. It was what I expected and more.

    • @yukyo3226
      @yukyo3226 Před 5 lety

      Tai Moya it was so beautiful that my CZcams decided to crash

    • @t.lanfield1936
      @t.lanfield1936 Před 5 lety

      Theory-man! Theory-man!

  • @evanbailey5858
    @evanbailey5858 Před 2 lety +2

    I didn’t see this video when it first came out but I’m glad I can come back with good timing too

  • @williamklemp3764
    @williamklemp3764 Před rokem +2

    Ok,so I know this is outta left field, and super late, but Peters Doctor ABSOLUTELY knows Pete is Spiderman, and is totally chill with it, even keeping the secret so well even Pete doesn't know he knows 😂

  • @spider-man3820
    @spider-man3820 Před 4 lety +367

    2:06 , unsolved for the past 17 years, even though Spider-Man 2 was released in 2004, this video must be from the future.

    • @frostbite6010
      @frostbite6010 Před 4 lety +44

      He used pizza time

    • @AngelFlipz
      @AngelFlipz Před 3 lety +5

      @@frostbite6010 big brain comment

    • @BauttAlt
      @BauttAlt Před 3 lety +2

      No the day has past since it was released

    • @Exxioz
      @Exxioz Před 3 lety +3

      @@BauttAlt r/woooosh

    • @amlan2483
      @amlan2483 Před 3 lety +3

      Time travel exists

  • @Jedihho
    @Jedihho Před 5 lety +446

    Actually, it was explained in the movie. Peter loses his powers from self-doubt and losing his purpose. And as Dr.Octavius says "If you keep something as complicated as love stored up inside it's gonna make you sick." He struggles throughout the movie with a choice to be Spider-Man and take responsibility, or live the easy life and get the girl. And he chooses the easy life, and this makes his powers take a back seat. He chooses this path, after discussing his "dream" with the doctor, and the doctor explains that maybe he shouldn't be Spider-Man. And he doesn't take back the mantle of the wall-crawler until Aunt May's speech, there's a hero in all of us. And after he saves a little girl from a burning building, but fails to save someone else, he realizes he has to take responsibility and be Spider-Man. When he jumped off of the roof to test his powers again, they don't immediately kick in, but the moment he needs to save the life of the woman he loves; his power kicks back into overdrive. And I think this is a good explanation of why he lost his powers, that is explained in the movie itself. :) (I enjoyed the intro btw)
    Edit: Yes, his theory goes a little more in depth, to what happens in the movie. However, he acts like it never gets explained in the movie, and it is a mystery to the audience. 2:01 ^_^

    • @SebasTian58323
      @SebasTian58323 Před 5 lety +11

      I was thinking this myself

    • @justanordinarycritic4953
      @justanordinarycritic4953 Před 5 lety +9

      Not surprisingly the reason for it that is explained in the film is something he just seemingly forgot about.

    • @SebasTian58323
      @SebasTian58323 Před 5 lety +8

      @@justanordinarycritic4953 he even mentioned the doctor that told him that

    • @justanordinarycritic4953
      @justanordinarycritic4953 Před 5 lety +12

      I mean, what do we honestly expect from Matt, a guy who seems to only be able to make half baked theory’s that are easily debunk able.

    • @justanordinarycritic4953
      @justanordinarycritic4953 Před 5 lety +3

      I really hope MagnaKamen does a video on this video.

  • @kudzaidhodho
    @kudzaidhodho Před 21 dnem +1

    What Mat-Pat is saying here is really fleshed out in the Into the Spiderverse short on anxiety.

  • @thegoldmario4879
    @thegoldmario4879 Před rokem +1

    I love that you subtitle all your videos :))))

  • @redraptorwrites6778
    @redraptorwrites6778 Před 5 lety +140

    This was explained in the movie and is pretty straight forward. Spider-Man was ruining Peter's life. He stopped believing in himself and Uncle Ben's lesson of responsibility. Peter was losing himself and the will to go on, therefore causing him to lose his super-human abilities. It isn't until he re-accepts his responsibility by rejecting MJ that he gets them back.

    • @rew1677
      @rew1677 Před 5 lety +2

      Yea also in spider man the spider verse.miles has to calm down to stop sticking

    • @ericdxfan511
      @ericdxfan511 Před 5 lety +3

      You'll be surprised how much the power loss subplot went over peoples heads.

    • @ccole99
      @ccole99 Před 5 lety +1

      Red Raptor Writes my friends and I always look back at that movie realizing that he just couldn’t get it up!!! He lost his ability to keep it up!!! It wasn’t until the woman that you know he’ll do anything for was in danger... He had to realize that he never lost the ability to get it up he just had to realize he still could do it!!!

  • @mumblegrumblejumble1524
    @mumblegrumblejumble1524 Před 3 lety +231

    I always saw the fact that in the movie Peter loses his powers as a consequence of him rejecting his powers and not wanting to be Spiderman anymore, I never really questioned it, but this gave me a new interesting look on the movie! Really fun theory! I think I'm gonna subscribe!

    • @torennovotny94
      @torennovotny94 Před rokem +2

      HE'LL YEAH MAT PAT NEEDS MORE SUBS HE'S NOT POPULAR ENOUGH

    • @DannyConeHeadOnceLer
      @DannyConeHeadOnceLer Před rokem +2

      Exactly! He might be suffering from the pressure and stress from all things he had to go through

  • @x3Rmal
    @x3Rmal Před 2 lety +4

    The neighbor girl's name is Ursula and she treats Peter much better than MJ.

  • @danyaelle1753
    @danyaelle1753 Před rokem +2

    You didn't have to do gwen Stacy like that matpat. 'cue flashback and tears'

  • @qtulhoo
    @qtulhoo Před 5 lety +624

    *Theory-Man, Theory-Man!*
    *Does whatever a theorist can!*
    *Spots details, with his eyes!*
    *He's got stories, to theorize!*
    *Look out! Here comes the Theory-Man!*
    *(*Trumpets*)*
    *Uses words, doesn't fight!*
    *("Can't we agree to disagree?")*
    *He has memorized, Mario's height!*
    *In the theories, in his head,*
    *Can say that the character's dead!*
    *("THEY WERE DEAD THE WHOLE TIME!")*
    *Look out! Here comes the Theory-Man!*
    **Episode Title**

    • @speedypichu6833
      @speedypichu6833 Před 5 lety +3

      Pichu! (Great job on matpat for making that and great job on you for putting the lyrics in the comment, it is appreciated)

    • @wandaellis9130
      @wandaellis9130 Před 5 lety +3

      That is AMAZING😎

    • @icouldntthinkofaname155
      @icouldntthinkofaname155 Před 5 lety +3

      "Ness the skeleton!?" Or, "Spidey is a bad guy!?*

    • @gplgs4640
      @gplgs4640 Před 5 lety +3

      When movies come out
      With a plothole to be found
      He will sniff them out
      As if he were a bloodhound!
      Theory-Man
      Theory-Man
      Friendly internet Theory-Man
      Monetised?
      He’s ignored
      Facts and logic’s his reward
      To him,
      If it’s a game or a show
      When it has details to know
      You’ll find the Theory Man!!

    • @ogslegacy7703
      @ogslegacy7703 Před 4 lety +1

      The Rockstar Gamer *THEOY MAN THEOY MAN WAS SNAPPED AWAY LOOOK OUT THANOS ISSSS COMMMMMINGGG*

  • @Kadz
    @Kadz Před 5 lety +790

    It’s theory time

    • @d29studios4
      @d29studios4 Před 5 lety +9

      When you only get 2 likes

    • @shiverbim4920
      @shiverbim4920 Před 5 lety +10

      @@d29studios4 But owns a verified channel

    • @shiverbim4920
      @shiverbim4920 Před 5 lety +3

      F

    • @inky3678
      @inky3678 Před 5 lety +2

      If I controlled theory’s I would want *fortnite* and FNAF

    • @tamo3813
      @tamo3813 Před 5 lety

      this video wasn’t bad like most of his recent ones

  • @lemonlethief6238
    @lemonlethief6238 Před 2 lety +3

    In spider-man no way home
    Sam Raimi Peter Parker said the only way his webs can get "web blocked" is existential dread
    basically, no way home confirms this

  • @GaPeach87
    @GaPeach87 Před rokem +2

    Can we all just talk about how the old Movies are SO GOOD? I personally think we needed more lore to this giant Pizza. Can we get origin Movies for EVERY SUPERHERO?!