Just picked up my "new to me " 1964 Johnson 9.5. The seller test run it in the tank and it ran great. Started and ran fine on the first pull. Wish me luck guys :)
Wow great deal for 40 bucks. Thats one clean 9.5 with low hours.Check the thermostat too would be advisable judging by the way that motor looks its probably mint. I have a video on CZcams showing a wrench I made to loosen those thermostat covers as they can be corroded pretty bad when used in saltwater mostly and break easily prying them out. I have worked on many of them thru the years.That motor deserves a cowling paint job and new decals when you have the time Great find!...Glenn P. outboard mechanic and collector for many years.
I have a 1970 Johnson 9 1/2 I was just wondering if you knew how to diagnose the problem I have when I'm at Full Throttle for about 5 minutes it works great then after that it starts rubbing really high and has no power then I have to back the throttle off the half-throttle I was just wondering if you knew what would cause that problem
I would think they are either 1/4-20 or 5/16-18 thread, but pretty sure I used a prybar and hammer method, haha. Gotta be careful doing that though, you can damage stuff really quick if you're too rough on it.
It's often either the points are dirty/corroded, or the ignition coils have cracked with age and are no good . Look for any wires that are falling apart too.
Pretty sure amazon or ebay, you just gotta figure out the part number, and they are a common part. Sierra is a decent aftermarket brand and pretty easy to find.
Love these old Evinrude Johnsons. I also have a 9.5 that runs great until I put the cowl on? Stumbles and dies? Its like its suffocating? Any thoughts ideas? Anyone? Thanks.
In the back of the motor, on the port side, there is a rubber 'boot' for the exhaust. When that is cracked it suffocates the motor. Also, if you are running these turtle top motors in a barrel, because of how low they sit, with the cowl on, it will pull in exhaust from the barrel. So, top off in the barrel, or run a fan on high simulating it being on the water and getting fresh oxygen.
Usually start with making sure the low speed screw and fuel circuit in the carb is clean. Might need to get the idle smooth and low enough to shift, thats if you can shift it into gear when its off and rolled over by hand
Hola muy buen video ,le quería preguntar una acá en Argentina muy pocos repuestos y los que te consiguen son caros,precio dólar,bueno primero tuve problemas con el flotante ya lo solucione ahora quería saber porque me sale agua de un cilindro si antes no tenia ese problema ,me habré pasado de nivel de agua 💧 al probarlo en barril de 200 litros ,bueno espero una respuesta, espero no tener más problemas y gracias
I took flywheels to see coils they were not good I did change them I did put same coils but now when put flywheel I can not turn it seems like stuck? Tiller moving aswell? Then was thinking I bougt wrong size coil so zi put the orjinals back but still I can not turn the wheel?
I have a 65 9.5 evinrude sportswin that runs fine until you put a load over half throttle it goes to missing any ideas ? Plugs and wires are new and points are set also .020 the coils look to have been replaced but it looks like they touched the flywheel a couple times whoever did it I’m not sure carb was cleaned and cranks on first pull just under load is a no go
If when it starts cutting out, try applying the choke on a bit, if it runs better at all its likely a plugged jet or dirty adjustment screw. Never hurts to go through the carb anyways though.
@@toocheaptosmoke okay I will give it a try what if it just Boggs down when applying choke and it doesn’t matter If the cover is on or off it runs the same
The comment about the coils touching the flywheel **sometimes** could be a clue that the crank bearings are worn out. Being a 2-stroke good bearing seals are necessary to keep the crankcase sealed against air leaks. Heat & vibration under load could be causing an air leak to mess with your air/fuel mixture.
I have this exact motor and I'm having some trouble with it. It will start but only at full throttle and as soon as I throttle down it cuts off completely. Any ideas out there for this problem
Is it smoking a ton? If so, sounds like it could be the needle/seat sticking and flooding out. If not a ton of smoke, could be low speed circuit/jet plugged up. Either one needs carb cleaning.
@@toocheaptosmoke I just bought the motor yesterday. Took apart the carb thismorning and the float needle was up side down. So I cleanee everything out really well. Took apart the fuel pump and checked everything and it looks good. Now it dose not wanna start at all. Water pump works fine and lower end is new. Everything seems right to me
@@toocheaptosmoke both of the coils were blown right out and there was pieces every where under the fly wheel and the points were farther off and apart then I've every seen. I have not idea how the guy got it to start in front of me. There was not spark at all.
Should be available out there on amazon and ebay, biggest thing is to make sure you've got the correct year of the motor, may have to decode the serial number.
How long do you think it would run on wide open throttle I’m buying one just want to know what size gas tank I should get for it. I like to take it out for at least 8 hours I won’t be running full throttle all the time but just curious what ballpark guess would be
If it rolls over, and is in decent condition, probably a good deal. Like any motor of this vintage, it will likely require some work and a few new parts to be water ready.
I own 4 of those and I love them ! They are a low compression engine, 70 is ok on that one . The reason the 9.5 is around is mainly for duck hunters because of the low profile and shifter is for easy shifting when retrieving your decoys and it’s one of the first to go to 50:1 ratio on oil ! I’m working on a linkage to run 2 at a time on one controller ! You got a real nice score for $40 plus 9 for Sierra impeller and 21 for carb kit =$70 heck if I lived closer to you I’d give you $150 for it ! Lol. That should have pushed the 12ft boat about 12 mph , that’s what 17 kph ? Lol. Sounds faster in kilometers! Lol. You might be over pitched on your prop !
The 12 foot I was running didn't seem to like running on plane very well, was a bear to get out of the hole. Once up top it ran fairly well, but not sure if it was the boat or the motor holding things back? Messed with the trim settings and had that dialed in.
Go to amazon and order you a copy of Peter Hunn's book called The Old Outboard Book. I think I paid $9.95 for it. It will save you money and show you the versatility of Johnson/Evinrude motors. It will tell you by model # and serial # what year it is and how many were made. Yours looks to be just like the 3 I 68, 70, and 72. For $40 bucks "you stole it at that price." they will sell depending on your area warmer/colder climates . Warmer waters very cheap more hrs. on them plus the are usually seized up. Yours looks like it would be a # 2--3 out of 4 conditions.. Number 1 being the best like a show room model. In Ohio you could get what ever some (craigslist sellers) think its worth just because its a "OLD ANTIQUE" but relistly $350- $400 depending on hrs. But nine out of 10 times no one knows useless its got a hobbs meter on it. (Tracks running time).
hallo Hello, I am from Tunisia and I have the same engine, but it does not work and makes pops. I have a fault in the electricity. Please help me But I set the setting o point I have the electric motor that runs in Platinum and it makes pops and doesn't work I beg your pardon because there is no one who can fix or have an idea on this type of engine I kindly ask you to help me, sir Thank you
Hello, a common problem with these motors are the ignition coils, the plastic cracks and they short out. I would check those, then make sure the points are clean. Also watch out for any bad wires going to the kill switch button, sometimes the insulation deteriorates.
It deserves a trip to the junkyard. The era of dirty 2-strokes are over, they pollute the waterways and expose the user to toxic emissions. A 2 stroke emits aroud 13 more pollutants than a 4-stroke.
Just picked up my "new to me " 1964 Johnson 9.5.
The seller test run it in the tank and it ran great.
Started and ran fine on the first pull. Wish me luck guys :)
These are great engines id check your lower unit oil before going out to make sure of no leaks
It's the same engine as the Evinrude 9 1/2 Twin Sport. A nice little thing. :)
Wow great deal for 40 bucks. Thats one clean 9.5 with low hours.Check the thermostat too would be advisable judging by the way that motor looks its probably mint. I have a video on CZcams showing a wrench I made to loosen those thermostat covers as they can be corroded pretty bad when used in saltwater mostly and break easily prying them out. I have worked on many of them thru the years.That motor deserves a cowling paint job and new decals when you have the time Great find!...Glenn P. outboard mechanic and collector for many years.
Great video, great commentary. Thank you.
Thanks man!
Great vid man. Cant wait to get mine going
Thanks man!
I would love having you as my neighbor. I am starting to rebuild my 9.5 from 1965. thanks for the video.
Haha, no problem, thanks!
I got one today, mint condition perfect paint on the cover and everything from the scrapyard for $7
That was a score!
i have this johnson 9.5 got it last week runs like new fast little outboard
Nice!
I had an evinrude 1965 9/12 it had lots of power planes my 12ft sea king it did over 23 mph.
This guys dialogue is me working on motors lol
I have a 1970 Johnson 9 1/2 I was just wondering if you knew how to diagnose the problem I have when I'm at Full Throttle for about 5 minutes it works great then after that it starts rubbing really high and has no power then I have to back the throttle off the half-throttle I was just wondering if you knew what would cause that problem
Could be running out of fuel, air leak in the fuel line, blocked tank vent, fuel pump getting weak,etc.
Can you tell me how to get that same carb rebuild kit?
9.5 horse power is everything....compared to rowing.
Ain't that the truth!
What size bolts did you need to pull the flywheel off to get to the points
I would think they are either 1/4-20 or 5/16-18 thread, but pretty sure I used a prybar and hammer method, haha. Gotta be careful doing that though, you can damage stuff really quick if you're too rough on it.
Just picked up the same unit today I am wondering what do those two wires do and what do they go to?
Great video
Could you pls add link for the water pump replacement kit and carburetor kit thanks so much sir.
I have this same motor, there is no spark though, compression yes. Any advice? Thank you!
It's often either the points are dirty/corroded, or the ignition coils have cracked with age and are no good . Look for any wires that are falling apart too.
@@toocheaptosmoke Thanks! It ended up being the points, they were corroded, runs awesome now!
I just picked up a comparable Model Evinrude. What fuel mixture and oil is best?
That's something that will get you a million different opinions, I usually run 40:1 with a decent oil.
What web site did you order the water pump and kill switch from??
Pretty sure amazon or ebay, you just gotta figure out the part number, and they are a common part. Sierra is a decent aftermarket brand and pretty easy to find.
Love these old Evinrude Johnsons. I also have a 9.5 that runs great until I put the cowl on? Stumbles and dies? Its like its suffocating? Any thoughts ideas? Anyone? Thanks.
No physical obstruction or insulating foam choking off the carb? Also make sure the cowl isn't pushing on wires or something causing a misfire?
In the back of the motor, on the port side, there is a rubber 'boot' for the exhaust. When that is cracked it suffocates the motor. Also, if you are running these turtle top motors in a barrel, because of how low they sit, with the cowl on, it will pull in exhaust from the barrel. So, top off in the barrel, or run a fan on high simulating it being on the water and getting fresh oxygen.
@@jeremyhall134 That was it. Thanks
Back in the that time any thing under 10 hp didn’t have to be registered
In Ohio, only 10 HP and up needs a title :)
Hey man mine won't idle well and when I adjust the idle knob it won't shift lol. Any idea?
Usually start with making sure the low speed screw and fuel circuit in the carb is clean. Might need to get the idle smooth and low enough to shift, thats if you can shift it into gear when its off and rolled over by hand
I have a evinrude 9.5 toilet seat going to rip into it tomorrow
Hola muy buen video ,le quería preguntar una acá en Argentina muy pocos repuestos y los que te consiguen son caros,precio dólar,bueno primero tuve problemas con el flotante ya lo solucione ahora quería saber porque me sale agua de un cilindro si antes no tenia ese problema ,me habré pasado de nivel de agua 💧 al probarlo en barril de 200 litros ,bueno espero una respuesta, espero no tener más problemas y gracias
I took flywheels to see coils they were not good I did change them I did put same coils but now when put flywheel I can not turn it seems like stuck? Tiller moving aswell? Then was thinking I bougt wrong size coil so zi put the orjinals back but still I can not turn the wheel?
Hmmm, not sure. If it's in gear can you turn the propeller?
toocheaptosmoke Wheel was rubbing coils so Pushed coils in little bit now turning freely thanks
@@bahadirdogan6208 I had to file my coils down a tiny bit
what type of fuel do you use for this motor?
I try to use non-ethanol fuel in the outboards, would rather have that regardless of octane
I have a 65 9.5 evinrude sportswin that runs fine until you put a load over half throttle it goes to missing any ideas ? Plugs and wires are new and points are set also .020 the coils look to have been replaced but it looks like they touched the flywheel a couple times whoever did it I’m not sure carb was cleaned and cranks on first pull just under load is a no go
If when it starts cutting out, try applying the choke on a bit, if it runs better at all its likely a plugged jet or dirty adjustment screw. Never hurts to go through the carb anyways though.
@@toocheaptosmoke okay I will give it a try what if it just Boggs down when applying choke and it doesn’t matter If the cover is on or off it runs the same
The comment about the coils touching the flywheel **sometimes** could be a clue that the crank bearings are worn out. Being a 2-stroke good bearing seals are necessary to keep the crankcase sealed against air leaks. Heat & vibration under load could be causing an air leak to mess with your air/fuel mixture.
I have this exact motor and I'm having some trouble with it. It will start but only at full throttle and as soon as I throttle down it cuts off completely. Any ideas out there for this problem
Is it smoking a ton? If so, sounds like it could be the needle/seat sticking and flooding out. If not a ton of smoke, could be low speed circuit/jet plugged up. Either one needs carb cleaning.
@@toocheaptosmoke I just bought the motor yesterday. Took apart the carb thismorning and the float needle was up side down. So I cleanee everything out really well. Took apart the fuel pump and checked everything and it looks good. Now it dose not wanna start at all. Water pump works fine and lower end is new. Everything seems right to me
@@toocheaptosmoke both of the coils were blown right out and there was pieces every where under the fly wheel and the points were farther off and apart then I've every seen. I have not idea how the guy got it to start in front of me. There was not spark at all.
@@joshking3496Did you get it running?
Where would i get a kit like that ? Thank you
Should be available out there on amazon and ebay, biggest thing is to make sure you've got the correct year of the motor, may have to decode the serial number.
@@toocheaptosmoke ok thanks , ya im quite sure mine is a 69 , model # is 9922s , serial # C or G 55031,, its a C or a G not sure
its funny, my 9.5 johnston killswitch wire is degraded in the same exact spot as yours, must be a vibration issue
I noticed the timing is out of sync with the carb linkage. Adjust that and you'll get more power from it.
I'll have to check that out next time I use it, it was a bit sluggish when running.
Also these little guys are BULLETPROOF !!!!!
My very first engine, they were a pig on fuel.
That is true, haha
How long do you think it would run on wide open throttle I’m buying one just want to know what size gas tank I should get for it. I like to take it out for at least 8 hours I won’t be running full throttle all the time but just curious what ballpark guess would be
@@dickjames5007 get a 5 gallon / 25 litre tank, you'll need it.
I have someone who wants to sell me a 91/2 Johnson motor for $100 but has been sitting in a garage for 8years should I take the risk ?
If it rolls over, and is in decent condition, probably a good deal. Like any motor of this vintage, it will likely require some work and a few new parts to be water ready.
Ok what what parts do you recommend me change of jump . And should I offer him $50 ?
They called them turtle shells !! Fact.
Haha, nice.
Mine won’t stay running any ideas?
Look to see if it's got spark, if not check for fuel or dirty carb
I own 4 of those and I love them ! They are a low compression engine, 70 is ok on that one . The reason the 9.5 is around is mainly for duck hunters because of the low profile and shifter is for easy shifting when retrieving your decoys and it’s one of the first to go to 50:1 ratio on oil ! I’m working on a linkage to run 2 at a time on one controller ! You got a real nice score for $40 plus 9 for Sierra impeller and 21 for carb kit =$70 heck if I lived closer to you I’d give you $150 for it ! Lol. That should have pushed the 12ft boat about 12 mph , that’s what 17 kph ? Lol. Sounds faster in kilometers! Lol. You might be over pitched on your prop !
The 12 foot I was running didn't seem to like running on plane very well, was a bear to get out of the hole. Once up top it ran fairly well, but not sure if it was the boat or the motor holding things back? Messed with the trim settings and had that dialed in.
toocheaptosmoke that’s a sign of the wrong prop pitch ! Get a 9 that sounds like a 10 or 11 , your not tacking out !
@@toocheaptosmoke nice find!! but like Dave said either the prop has too much pitch or the motor is hanging off the transom at too much of an angle
Dave Kimbler I get 12 out of my 6hp evinrude fishermen all I did was put a hydrofoil on it didn’t even tune it up and have a metal tank
Frog hunters (like myself) loved those motors too. I've had one for 25 years. They're indestructible. P.S. great find!
2:30 they call these engines "Turtleback"
Go to amazon and order you a copy of Peter Hunn's book called The Old Outboard Book. I think I paid $9.95 for it. It will save you money and show you the versatility of Johnson/Evinrude motors. It will tell you by model # and serial # what year it is and how many were made. Yours looks to be just like the 3 I 68, 70, and 72. For $40 bucks "you stole it at that price." they will sell depending on your area warmer/colder climates . Warmer waters very cheap more hrs. on them plus the are usually seized up. Yours looks like it would be a # 2--3 out of 4 conditions.. Number 1 being the best like a show room model. In Ohio you could get what ever some (craigslist sellers) think its worth just because its a "OLD ANTIQUE" but relistly $350- $400 depending on hrs. But nine out of 10 times no one knows useless its got a hobbs meter on it. (Tracks running time).
faulty kill switch is a problem it almost kills it when its running
Yup, gotta watch for that.. 👍
hallo Hello, I am from Tunisia and I have the same engine, but it does not work and makes pops. I have a fault in the electricity. Please help me
But I set the setting o point
I have the electric motor that runs in Platinum and it makes pops and doesn't work
I beg your pardon because there is no one who can fix or have an idea on this type of engine
I kindly ask you to help me, sir
Thank you
Hello, a common problem with these motors are the ignition coils, the plastic cracks and they short out. I would check those, then make sure the points are clean. Also watch out for any bad wires going to the kill switch button, sometimes the insulation deteriorates.
@@toocheaptosmoke hi coil problem thank you
@@toocheaptosmoke thank you I have a coil problem
The Cowling is low pro for casting over
Makes sense, I just picked up the evinrude equivalent of this motor, pretty rough but got some good parts out of it.
@@toocheaptosmoke nice they are basically the same company
Always show the part number for the carb kits
Added it to description
Even if the old diaphragm did "work", pretty good chances it would fail down at the far end of the lake.
That seems to be where things always fail, haha.
It deserves a trip to the junkyard. The era of dirty 2-strokes are over, they pollute the waterways and expose the user to toxic emissions. A 2 stroke emits aroud 13 more pollutants than a 4-stroke.
How much pollution is caused in the manufacture of a new engine? Not zero.