1st Oil Change on 2020 Ram 1500 - Bad Engineering 101
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2021
- In this video I walk through how to change oil on 2020 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi. I point out the major flaws in the engine layout that lead to a messy DIY job.
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QUICK TIP: Slightly loosen oil filter but, not so much where oil starts to leak down, Take a gallon ziplock bag, cut one of the corners off to create a funnel. Zip tie the ziplock bag around the filter as tight as possible. Take a #2 phillips screw driver and slide it into the hole in the corner of the ziplock bag you made previously. With the screw driver inserted into the ziplock bag, use a hammer to TAP THE SCREWDRIVER GENTLY, punching one or more holes into the bottom of the oil filter. DO NOT HAMMER IT LIKE A BLACKSMITH TRYING TO WORK STEEL FRESH FROM A FORGE. Allow to drain fully, then remove the filter while the ziplock bag is still zip tied to the filter. No fuss, no mess and no extra cleanup needed. You're Welcome!
his way was easier for h im considering how high the car was
@@aprilgosa5779 What does the height of the vehicle have to do with anything? How do you know it was easier for him? Did you consult with him before commenting? Have you ever changed the oil and filter in a ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi?
None of what you said makes any sense. But please continue to speak for others you don't know about subjects you know nothing about. It gives those of us who do a good laugh.
When I did my 1st oil change, I took a disposable aluminum baking sheet, and custom bent it so it fit below the filter and above the steering rack with the oil catch pan below. When the filter was removed, all the oil flowed down the baking sheet and into the pan without ANY oil touching the rack. I held into it for future changes.
I’ve done the same with just a piece of cardboard 👍🏼
I totally agree with you. This is the absolutely worse vehicle to change oil in I have ever had. Just did it yesterday 2019 Ram Longhorn 1500. I did manage to fill the filter up with oil and get it back up there without spilling it but it sure sucks to take it off. Thank you for the video and your patience. Take care and enjoy your Ram
Thanks for the video. I'm a long time Ram owner, but I just got my first Hemi model, a 2022 Bighorn.
I have always done my own oil changes and as much service work as possible. This will make it easier for me to find the filter and gives some good advice.
Thanks again.
I usually get a pointed tip punch and pop a hole on the bottom of the oil filter and let it drain out before loosening it. Just sure you poke the hole in the perfect spot so it drains it goes directly in the drain pan. This is what I normally on large diesel trucks because those filters can carry 5-7 qts of oil, trying to handle those filters filled with oil and quite challenging.
Thanks for the detail. It really helped with my first oil change on a 2020 RAM 1500 Hemi 5.7L.
Great video. Mine's the 3.6L and it isn't much easier (except the filter...maybe). The filter location on the V6 is directly to the left of the oil fill neck but under a plastic cover (because why not). At least we all lube our sway bars every 5k miles or so.
I feel your pain. I haven't attempted a oil change on my new Ram yet, but I have a plan. Cut the end off a 2 liter soda bottle and put a hole in the side. Push a nail through the hole and drain the filter before you remove it. Once oil has stopped running, use a piece of duct tape to plug the hole in the filter. Now remove the empty filter.
Good tip on using the empty 5 qt oil jug when an engine holds more than 5 qts at 12:43. Thankful that Honda's and Toyota's are better designed in this aspect :)
Haha
You make a pretty good video. I also have a 2020 Ram with the same problems. The drip on the sway bar is no big deal, but the filter is in a horrible location. The first time I tried to change it I found the filter was either tightened hard or had Loc-tite on the threads. I was using a claw type wrench with a socket and 12 inch extension. This has worked for me on several other filters with no problem. I put a lot of torque to try to get it to move when my hand slipped and the wrench gave me a black eye. (looked like I was on Cops). Ended up using the long screwdriver and ripping the can to get it to move. Since then I found no matter how I try I get oil all over everything. The claw type wrench works just fine if the filter is not torqued down. I've only used Mopar filters during warranty. I've learned a few things. 1. I change the oil cold- I value my flesh over a few extra drops. 2. after I change the oil I use a garden sprayer with soap/degreaser and squirt everything around the filter and let it sit. Then I use the hose to clean it off. I don't like the idea of leaving oil on the rubber boots and electric motor. I would think a remote filter would have been a better idea. Overall this truck is great to drive and has had no problems.
Totally agree that it’s not a huge deal. I’ve found though that these videos do embarrass the manufacturer and my hope is that they do better next time. I did oil changes on three of my cars last night and brought the kids out to help. They could not believe what a mess the truck was versus the cars. The design should have been fixed years ago.
i just did this yesterday. i ended up using aluminum foil to cover the sway bar and other components under the filter. it didn't help the oil go where i wanted it to go, but it did in fact protect the components. i also did the gallon bag trick. it did not work perfect and made it very difficult to turn the filter with the bag on. but with some persistence it did come off and caught most of the oil. that along with the foil made cleanup pretty easy. i didn't have much issue slipping the old filter out or put the new one on.
but i agree...the engineering of this is real shit especially since this is 2022. c'mon guys.
Best oil change video.
I worked at a cdjr dealership, I have a silicone oil filter catcher. It looks like a coozie with a wide mouth. Slide that over it, twist it off, all the oil goes into that and it's not hot on my hands. I either got it from Mac or cornwell. Also having a lift makes a world of difference, helps the angle of the dangle.
I had an idea to modify my oil wrench exactly like that. If it’s been done I need to find one, Thank you
Did you use a Mobile 1 extended drain oil filter?
Excellent video. Thank you brotha ✌🏽
Thanks for this video. I just picked up my 2020 RAM used and love it. I'll easily agree with you regarding the placement of the oil filter and drain plug. Almost feels intentional so you don't change the oil yourself and have to take it in to the deal for service. I'm sure this is easier with the truck up on a lift. I'm transitioning from a 2007 Dodge Ram and will say changing the oil on that truck was fun! I was done in 15 minutes. No need to put the truck up on ramps or anything. The oil filter and drain plug were super easy to get to with no obstructions. This 2020 RAM is not the same. Again, thanks for the video and will have to do the ziplock back trick and get me a pair of ramps. :D 4 wheel drive for the win! :D
Just did my first oil change 2021 Ram 1500. Took me about an hour to figure out it was easier and more room to access the filter from the bottom-front. Still very messy.
I have a 2017 and it’s exact same. It’s a mess every time. I have same exact ramps and I do it from underneath just like this. I’ve resolved to saving up cardboard from online deliveries and putting it underneath before doing the filter. I just undo it and let it go all over and catch as much as possible in the tray. The Best Fram filters with the grippy bottom, and making sure only hand snugged previously, helps not have to use a filter wrench to remove. I use at least half roll of paper towels every time too. Oh well.
Morning Mike, Good Video and my 2 cents. 1. My 2013 Ram Laramie Longhorn 5.7 4WD Crew Cab(Left over model in Aug '14 and bought it new) is SO Much easier than what you went through. Why? I attack the drain plug, 13mm, from the back side of the right front tire on my back. NO JACKS required. Easy. 2. I attack the Hand Tightened Mopar 339 Oil Filter from the front of the truck on my back. NO JACKS required. NO FILTER WRENCH required. Everything else is pretty much what you do with one major exception. I change my Pennzoil Premium Synthetic 5w-20 every OTHER year since I only drive about 3500 miles a year and 50% is Highway. I use the Mopar EOL Indicator and change it at 7500 miles which is usually about 25% Remaining for me. I honestly think your cross member under your drain plug is different from my truck. Mine is forward of yours by about 2-3". Good Luck next time around as these are GREAT Engines and Trucks IMHO. JP in NW Florida
Instead of accessing the filter from below the rack, access is from the front, above the frame by the coolant lines. This video show the exact location starting at 14:23. You will be able to wrap your entire hand around the filter just like gripping a mug. You can use the ziplock back an take it out with no restriction.
Awesome demonstration boss I'll just pay for my oil change and save the headache 🤣🤣🤙🏼
Cut a 2 liter bottle in half, use that as a spout so you don't get oil on your sway bar.
Take the 1/2 of the 2 liter bottle and put a hose on the filler neck that's long enough to go into your drain pan. When you loosen the filter, the oil will drain into the bucket. Just a thought.
That’s the reason I installed a remote oil filter mounted to the front frame in my Ram 1500 Classic, makes life so much easier and less messy. Don’t even need to do get it on the ramps and I run a full size filter (the stock one is too small in my opinion)
Where did you get the relocation kit? Of course, that'll void my warranty...
There are several oil filter relocation kits for the RAM 5.7L. There is also an oil plug extension.
I installed a ValvoMax Stainless Oil Drain Valve on my Ram. It will help avoid the mess from the oil drain.
If you think changing the engine oil on the Ram is bad...just wait until you decide to change the transmission fluid and filter. The filter is built into the tranny pan, and you have to pull the pan and replace it with a new one, if you want a new transmission filter. Major PITA filling the tranny with fluid...must be in a specific tranny temp range...you're going to love it. I would love to see your video commentary during that evolution!
Made the mistake of draining the trans fluid cause the plug said "oil drain only" which doesn't make much sense of course, instead of the oil... Thought it was gonna be a simple fix ha I thought WRONG
After 2 oil changes I made my own oil filter relocation kit. Filter is now near the front. I can reach the filter by just reaching under the bumper.
The previous generation has a big steel support that protects from front end damage.
I don't have the sway bar issue.
Stupid Ram put the transmission drain near the exhaust and some wiring. Great job!
What? lol
10-1-23 Finally someone explains just how much of a pain in the a_ _ it is changing this filter. I’ve been doing it for years and I dred it every time. There’s just not ample room. Tried every trick & every type of wrench. I was a military aircraft Mech and still I hated changing this filter. The tips and tricks for cleanliness do help, but breaking the filter loose for 1st new truck oil change was is the worst. I get a new Ram every 2 or 3 yrs . If you can get by the factory installed filter, you’ll only need a light hand tightening, and heat + time will do the rest. I slide a fresh piece of cardboard under the truck for a few days to check for leaks . I haven’t had any leaks with my oil changes but even if I had a slight slow leak at the filter , I myself would leave it that way vs tightening up on this model of Ram. There’s just no room to wrench it off if it’s to tight.
I use a filter wrench instead, seems to help break it loose easier.
Even the dealership where I had my first oil change done on my Ram obviously just let oil get everywhere. It smelled enough that I thought I had a leak when I got home. Most vehicles today suck for the owner to do any routine maintenance.
That's what you get when you have one engineer from Chrysler designing frame, oil filter location is proudly presented by the Ford engineer, and finally, strategic placement of oil drain plug and oil pan from GM engineer.
To be fair, my old 08 f150 has the filter in a worst place.
Don’t you mean fiat engineers?😁
And apparently it's not easy for the dealership either!!! My last three oil changes on my 2019 1500 Limited. (1) filter not secured properly. (2) drain plug cross threaded (3) filter not secured properly again. All three visits called for return visits, and the dealership has a ho hum attitude as if I didn't have anywhere to be. I hope they're doing a better job with those $100,000 Grand Wag's
The look of embarrassment at 1:04 yeah...we've all done that on our oil changes. LOL!
Those ramps are easy to use when you back into them, place them behind the tire if you’re on the incline and you can also use your chucks
I just bought a 2023 dodge ram, they are telling me to use Pennzoil platinum in it, what do you think? thanks.
Sounds good to me, it’s very highly rated.
Well done thanks. This is truly a nightmare setup here for us Ram owners
I always saw the locations for the oil filter and drain pan engineered in those places to protect your engine. So if you go rock climbing in your Ram it wont get "snagged" and leak all your oil completely out to blow your motor. However, it is a pain to access these locations.
Also the engine is built to be in multiple different vehicles and that vehicle has multiple different engines so it’s no body’s fault. Just have to deal with it.
Oil filter is definitely the hardest part, took me 30 min to get it down...remember the oil filter is about 74mm in diameter, don't get the wrong size filter grabber...
Bro I’m in the rust belt. I take oil and spray it all over the vehicle! Oil the drips down on stuff is bonus!
I was literally cracking up watching you wipe it down. Whatever works for you though. Nice video!
I definitely find it much easier to attack the oil filter from the front end on my 2020
Where do you think those Yugo engineers ended up after it shut down? Look at an oil filter relocation kit, and a quick drain plug. That worked out well for my 2015.
Done probably 15 changes on my ram. Easy for me. Beware mobil 1 does not meet Chrysler material standards. MS-6395.
@AxleGil why doesn't it meet Chrysler material standards ? That's all I ever used on my 2013 Ram with no problem ?
I feel your pain but I found a cure of sorts. Buy a K&N oil filter. It has a 1" nut welded to the bottom of the oil filter so you can put a socket on it. Makes it much easier to get it off.
For gods sake people. If you take your time and give the filter time to drain bit by bit as you remove it! You don’t get oil all over the place or on any part of the truck. As for the sway bar or cross member big deal, it cleans right off.
Hi michael can you show us how to do the coolant please
Is that a plastic trans pan? If it is then you are boned if you run over a big rock
Also look into getting Fumoto or EZ Drain or Valvomax plugs.
I was going to recommend the same thing. I have a Fumoto valve on mine and it’s worth every penny
Is it necessary to coat the new oil filter seal with used oil? Or can it just be put in dry?
It’s a preference thing. I’ve found oil on the gasket helps in dry climates where it can dry out over time.
Great video because I was about to attempt my 1st change on my 1500. Fire your son he should know, never leave someone else to hold the bag 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Great video now I know what to look for if I want to attempt it!!!
Great video, however, after watching your truck push the plastic ramps forward, i would suggest you get steel ramps to protect you from the truck crushing You.
If you get a flatter oil recovery , it works easier than a Home depot bucket. When you change the oil filter, loosen filter, put a gallon ziplock bag around it, moving it slowly, let the oil flow into gallon ziplock bag. Slowly remove, getting virtually no oil anywhere. Good luck!
after a few changes on my 1st 5th gen and now my 2nd one, I finally gave in and started taking to dealer for oil changes because it’s just worth paying $100 since it’s such a pain in the butt and they also rotate the tires which I also don’t want to do….
Use some break clean to clean the oil off but make sure you have the bucket under also so you dont get it on driveway.
nexrt time use one of those disposable aluminum disposable buffet things for the drain plug bit at least. ( also can try some "super clean" , spray it on a rag, and then clean the parts as part of the cleanup)
How many miles when u changed the oil on your ram? Whats the consensus mileage?
I do mine every 5000 miles
Use a quart size ziplock bag. Put it around the filter and spin the filter off while holding the bag up around the filter. When I do this I don't spill a drop. You can do it all with one hand. Pull the filter out through the front.
Guys I just did mine in under 20minutes! I have a 2020 Warlock 1500.
Mind you I am a mechanic & have a hoist.
Can’t fit a filter wrench in there, simply use a strap wrench, works great.
Are you going to drink motor oil - Yeup you will!! But you want 2B a mechanic, get used to it cupcakes.
That little bit of oil on the parts, clean it as best you can, the rest of it will only undercoat the undercarriage (I’m from Northern Ontario, where they lay winter salt like candy!)
Anyway hope this help you guys 😉👍🍻🇨🇦🔧
Hey nice video how is your ram doing are you happy with the quality of your truck. Has it given you any problems.
So far no, I’ve been really happy so far. I’ve owned Tundra’s and Chevys, this has been my favorite truck. Had it for about 2 1/2 years now, still happy. They do have their issues, but been lucky so far.
Try gluing a 5/8 nut to the new filter before installing it. Might help next time. In the dead center with a liberal application of j. B. Weld.
Well I think my previous comment was removed due to my smart comment about the ramps. Anyways I take it all back. Just changed the oil myself for the first time on my 2018, 123k km on it now, the rest have been dealer and shop. I agree it's an absolute nightmare and a piss poor design. You are right. Oil filter was way over torqued too, I yelled f-ing Dodge a few times under there. First one was rough (I've changed oil on my other cars lots of times, including my ecodiesel which was a dream compared to this) and only can improve from here. Had to break out the kitty litter for the driveway. Bag was not going to do it needed the filter wrench, which perforated the canister. No clean way to do it over torqued. Thanks you are right, designed to be serviced at dealer, hateful.
100% FUMOTO drain valve is the best fix for the drain plug. Still working on best solution for oil filter.
Where did you get the American flag RAM overlay?
Etsy
Doesnt oil filter come out square in rt front fender well??
It can, but did it from below to get video.
@@Sunshone7311 ah
An extractor tube also doesnt fit in the dipstick tube. Dont be too upset. Motorcycles can be terrible too. Some you have to remove foot controls and exhausts
I got a 2021 2wd and I had a difficult time getting it off I can just imagine having extra 4wd goodies in the way would be😂
What happen to me right now 1:38 pm april 24 2022
Thanks!
You didn’t show yourself lubing the top of that new filter buddy. It’s a must to insure that the rubber gasket doesn’t get stuck to the housing or roll when you tighten it.
10k miles oil change?
Amen. Just had my first nightmare.
Interesting, wonder how the dealer removes the filters without making a huge mess. Specialty tool?
Last oil change there was no oil anywhere. Time before that it was everywhere and was dripping on my driveway. Thought I had a leak but then saw the mess when i crawled under. Depends on if the tech get paid nothing for the oil change gives two fucks..
I wonder if the make a filter relocation kit for these lol
The oil change places are not a good idea. I do my oil change on my 2019 Rebel and yes its a pain for all the reason you mentioned however I know its done right. Even after 30 minutes on a hot engine you still have a decent drip of oil coming out of the plug. The oil change places remove the plug for approx 10 min and there has got to be quite a bit of oil left in there. I let mine drain for approx 30 minutes at a minimum.
For gods sake I’m glad I’m not the only person that lost his damn mind trying to get that oil filter off. Stupidest FUCKING place you could EVER put an damn oil filter. I almost traded in the damn truck i swear to god .
How much does this car weigh? Plastic ramps seems worrying for a big vehicle
Ramps are rated at 12k lbs.
@@Sunshone7311 Wow! Plastics has come a long way in durability..
Aluminum foil might work better to stay in place. I do that on many motorcycles I work on because the drain plug is often right above the exhaust system.
Get a fumoto oil plug , comes with a clear hose , a total game changer, the filter housing is also a challenge! 😒
We use foil and wrap it around everything just a heads up for ya mexf job signed mechanic at a dealership
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Get yourself a Fumoto valve. I use the F106N. No more oil on the sway bar.
my 2022 hemi has 0w 20 as the recommended oil. i was shocked but apparently they made this a running change late last year. seems almost all new cars and trucks are now 0 20. i don't know why and can't imagine the difference is meaningful.
You mean 5 20
@@floofsale no. 0w 20.
@@thecount1001 we use 0 20 in the jeep and my Honda as well. But go check out the Ram forums where hundreds of currents and previous Ram owners discuss different oil types. It seems the general consensus agrees that 5w30 wont hurt and is in fact better for the hemi engine than the 5 20 or 0 20. Either way.. check it out as we all have the same 5.7 hemi engine... As long as you use really good oil and filters u should be fine. The Pennzoil Ultra Platnium seems to be highly recommended as well (make sure its Ultra).. also Redline is recommended but expensive now. Good luck!
@@floofsale
PUP is the only i will use.
What a tiny oil filter. I remember them being bigger on the 3rd gen
I did the same exact thing on my asphalt driveway 😂took me 3 tries to figure it out
Doing my oil change soon , I have 2020 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi 18K miles
what oil are people usually going for as far as brand?
From what I've read recommended/most popular is Pennzoil Platinum 5w-20 Full Synthetic . Open for any opinions/recommendations
I've been using castrol 5w30 and a Motorcraft 820s filter. No tick. Change the oil every 4500 miles. Definitely works for me.
They make things difficult for the do it yourself people, because they would rather have us take it to the shop, and have the mechanics benefit from the service.$$$ Everything's all about money.
Maybe using those doggy pee training pads might help minimize the oil from making a mess.
I’ve never had luck with the bag truck. Too much of a pain.
Just did my 2021 RAM. Complete nightmare. 31/2 hours to get the oil filter off. I punchered it and Oil leaked everywhere for hours. 4 trips To Auto Zone and bought every filter wrench they had. Finally used the adjustable one and broke it loose. Horrible experience.
It gets better, you just have to get passed the first time and come up with a better plan the next time.
Get a claw, it fits. I do oil changes on mopar vehicles. Put rags or a lot of paper towel around the steering rack where the oil runs and the connector right on the other side
Simple oil change. If it's too messy for you,bring it to the dealer. How much did you actually save? $20?
And have a porter making minimum wage do it, makes sense. I do all of my own maintenance, but some of these cars have stupid designs is the point. It’s not saving $20 either, it’s $50 more. Regardless I get way more life out of my vehicles not letting other people touch them for regular maintenance.
I’ll never complain about my tundras canister filter again lol
Yep, when I had the Tundra it wasn’t bad at all.
I've driven nothing but Mercedes my whole life until my 2020 Ram 1500. The canister filters sitting right on top of the motor directly beside the oil fill is a blessing that every engine should have.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I couldn't get oil filter off it was that tight, had to use screwdriver lol. 🤣🍻
Did you get recall on Etorque yet ?
Use a shopping bag over the filter next time. Or put aluminum foil over the rack and let the oil run off that.
I recently bought a 2020 Ram 1500 Classic with the Hemi engine. My previous truck was 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 with the Hemi. Oil filter was in the same spot on the third Gen as the fourth and fifth gen Ram. I'm about to do my first oil change on my 2020, looks about the same as the 2004 so I don't see it being an issue. Want to have a bad oil change experience and see poor engineering, do a service on Ram with a 6.7 Cummins. You'll be hating your life.
On my 15 ram it’s easier to grab oil filter from front of suspension
just did my first oil change on my 2020 RAM 1500.
what a miserable job the RAM engineers did with both the oil pan drain and the oil filter. No wonder Ford, GM and Toyota are eating their lunch!
they couldn't have a done a worse job with the location of those items.
who was the engineer that thought this would be a great idea???
unbelievable.
At the dealers they just use a crap load of brake clean.
If you push the ramps up against the lip of the garage they won’t slide
Brake clean goes a long way in cleaning residual oil.
You do realize that engine was developed 20+ years before that truck was built?
That’s the issue I have with most domestic trucks engines. They never adapt their design.
The 1st design was exactly like the new design....same location
@@jhett63 I don't have the time or crayons to explain this so you will comprehend
Use traction underneath the ramps like a rubber mat. Me I would use Medal ramps my ram is too heavy. Lol.
STOP THE MADNESS get a Pacbrake 10363 oil filter relocation kit keep taking a bath in oil.
just spray the oil covered area down with brake cleaner.
Exactly, break cleaner does wonders when changing oil. Common sense
If anyone was wondering the 2022 1500 is the same
Seems like my old old trusty beer funnel is going to get some real use.