SUPER SIMPLE PROPANE FORGE BURNER! - ELEMENTALMAKER
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Lets build a propane forge burner out of simple parts from the local big box store! This burner will be used in an upcoming video to melt a ton of aluminum cans, and to make Magnalium!
Parts list:
20PSI Propane Regulator - Here is the one I bought: amzn.to/2fsPgsn
Here's a cheap numbered drill bit set. I used a #53 but you may need to adjust slightly for your specific setup: amzn.to/2PqoN16
1/4" Ball Valve: amzn.to/2UgOdTI
3/8" FL x 1/4 MIP union (to adapt regulator output to 1/4"): amzn.to/2UfaxNx
1/4" Coupling: amzn.to/2UrxBJa
1 1/4" to 3/4" Reducer: amzn.to/3qk3gIu
1" to 3/4" reducer: amzn.to/3xE3EDP
8" section of 3/4" threaded pipe: amzn.to/3d38Mtz
1/4" x 2" nipple: amzn.to/3iYHE2D
1/4" square head plug: amzn.to/3qguI9L
Two 1/4" hose barbs: amzn.to/3xE3egJ
1/4" ID vinyl tubing (if you want to run your burner further away from your tank): amzn.to/3djxTZl
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Parts list:
20PSI Propane Regulator - Here is the one I bought: amzn.to/2fsPgsn
Here's a cheap numbered drill bit set. I used a #53 but you may need to adjust slightly for your specific setup: amzn.to/2PqoN16
1/4" Ball Valve: amzn.to/2UgOdTI
3/8" FL x 1/4 MIP union (to adapt regulator output to 1/4"): amzn.to/2UfaxNx
1/4" Coupling: amzn.to/2UrxBJa
1 1/4" to 3/4" Reducer: amzn.to/3qk3gIu
1" to 3/4" reducer: amzn.to/3xE3EDP
8" section of 3/4" threaded pipe: amzn.to/3d38Mtz
1/4" x 2" nipple: amzn.to/3iYHE2D
1/4" square head plug: amzn.to/3qguI9L
Two 1/4" hose barbs: amzn.to/3xE3egJ
1/4" ID vinyl tubing (if you want to run your burner further away from your tank): amzn.to/3djxTZl
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What modifications would be neccesary, in order to make this design into a "forced air" burner???
@@troysimon9933 with this system you don't need forced air. My furnace melts , Aluminium , Brass , bronze, steel the whole furnace turns white inside.
One more thing forced air erodes your crucibles faster.
Would it work to drill the nozzle with a 1/16 of an inch bit
This is the cleanest flame I've seen on burner videos. Great job.
My Grandpa taught me that the three holes in the drill chuck weren't there for convenience and that they were all three supposed to be used when tightening down on the drill bit. After that Drill bits didn't spin nearly as much. great video as always..
would not recomend using plastic tubing for a propane supply line,invest in a high pressure hose meant for propane,would be ugly if that plastic tubing melted from the heat while using that burner.nice burner design ,be safe..
I’ve heard that but it never had made a difference in my experience
Heard that once in the 15 machine shops I worked at. Don't believe it and only that one guy out of a 100 did it.
dont see it myself, all three tightening points are turning the exact same part in the chuck. could it make a difference where on that part you apply the turning force? idk. could be that just by taking the key out, putting it back in and tightening again youre making sure the tool is snug in the chuck, whether you use the same hole or a different one
Bugs Bunny thank you! I was going to comment the same thing!
I don't know why I waste so much time watching several videos made by several jokers before I end up watching yours. Someday I'll get smart and start at the finish. Your da man
Thanks for the kind words Rikki
This content is so good, been binge watching @ElementalMaker for the past week!
I appreciate you, you were so straight forward even I can make one, off to the hardware store.
I really appreciate the content, super informative. I'm new to forging/blacksmithing. I'm going to give this a try. The one thing I wish you would have clarified is the process of the propane end of the burner. I'm kinda lost on the configuration. Thanks again man.
I built this exactly like he showed on the video. It works great! This bad boy puts out A LOT of heat!! Now I just need to make the forge to put it in. Thanks for the great video!
Awesome! Glad its working great for you Daniel!
I made this following your instructions but used a 1/2 cap, 1.5 inch to 1 inch reducer coupling, 1 inch pipe and a 1.5mm hole for the orifice with a 10 pound regulator and it worked very well! Thank you for your contributions to the DIY community! I was just about to give up on making my own burner after my old one with the same regulator failed to produce a blue flame. I think my problem was the amount of airflow in the old system that reused a burner from a furnace with a 1" coupling welded on. I still ordered the new regulator because I want to see how hot I can make it but overall a wild success! Thank you again!
I loved this video - Thanks for the info. I used your plan for making a forge burner but had to use a 30 psi propane regulator to make it work. I live at 8500 ft elevation so I assume thats why. Again thanks!
I guess this is a popular and much used design. I've seen dozens of videos through the years that are all almost identical starting with TKOR back in 2016. Great video with everything explained step by step, just like your other videos. As long as you keep making these cool build videos I'll keep watching and sharing.
Thank you. Yes this is called a Reil burner. Very popular style coined after the man who designed them originally
I am watching your video for the last time before I go to buy the parts. I am excited and your instruction is easy to follow and I can't wait for MY results....thanks again....Great stuff here
Very nice video Mate. Thanks for that. One of the Best Step by Step descriptions right here. The burner System is very good and Works like you said
I actually learned something thank you for the information most informative
I built this in no time .
Put a 30 lb. Reg on it .
Works like a charm.
Thanks !
This will go into a propane tank forge.
Just a note ... doesn't seem to need but 10 lbs of pressure , at least for mine .
So I made this exact burner, and tried to use it in my propane tank forge but it just seems like it wants more air. Can't seem to figure out how to get it more air either.
Great video and very straightforward. I just built mine and couldn't be happier
Well, I started my foundry build and of all the burner designs I looked at, yours is the one I went with. Fired it up and it works fantastic. Now I just need to finish building the foundry itself and I'm all good to go. Thanks
Nice! Glad it was useful for you!
Loved the video! I have made several torches to pre-heat pipe before welding and I always just took an grease zerk and filed the end off, then removed the ball and spring.
Do what? I can't picture which kind of grease fitting?
John Gaudi A zerk is a standard grease fitting! Kind of like the proper name for the thing you inflate car tires through is a Schrader Valve! I love to call it a Schrader valve in general conversation because it gives the false impression that I know much about everything! Ha!
Thanks for making, this is the best and easiest design I could find. Definitely going to make this.
Dude what a great video beat I've seen, your the man! I appreciate the knowledge. Thanks
Hey man, just want to thank you for this video. I have never done anything like this before but I followed your instructions and...OH MY!!! My initial test was incredible. No need to change anything, working just like you said. Sounds like a hot air balloon and my neighbours are getting nervous. lol. THANKS MAN!!!
Glad to hear it Tom 👍 stay safe and enjoy!
what size bit did you use
@@conquerant8804 30 thou
As a mathematician I can tell you that drilling your set screw holes 120 degrees apart would have allowed redirection of the flame down the center line of the burner very to be exceptionally simple.I admire your desire to always use the most efficient methodology for your diy build projects. I always enjoy watching a talented experimentalist in his element. You are like seeing Michael Faraday reborn; without him there would not have been an Edison or Einstein, or a Niagara power station humming with Nicolai Tesla's AC alternators..... Mr. Elemental for a while I thought that you might have been an alchemist like Isaac Newton, but there is no turning lead to gold, alas..... In the meantime carry on with the brilliant production of video material. Bye from Central Texas, USA.
That would work, but you would need a very long drill bit and have to line it up on both sides. The way he did it lowers the tolerances.
Made one the other day, used a number 54 drill bit. With a 20psi regulator it rips. Flame is about 12" long and hot as hell. Thanks for the video and parts list, cheers 🍻
Excellent video, great project. Thanks so much, I will definitely do it.
Glad you enjoyed Ruben 👍
Hey, great video!. I'm just wondering how hot this burner is able to get. Cheers.
i ain't livin' yet bro... need that gold plated Allen wrench in my life
I'm going to build mine just like this. No mig tip, no threaded damper, just wide open using a 1/16th jet orfice.
Great work!
I've watch multiple design for a forge burner, this is by far the best design. thank you for sharing.
HYDROGENTEK I appreciate the kind words! Thanks for checking out my channel!
I've watched a bunch of these videos and I found that yours was easiest. Definitely be using your design for a double burner. - the galvanized tip. Im not very fond of getting poisoned
Yep, that galvy has got to go.
Just dip it in muratic acid and in seconds the coating is GONE
@@lx2077bob26 or just leave it on vinegar overnight, lots cheaper
Nice video with the exception your internal flare needs to be black pipe and NOT galvanized. Zinc poisoning can kill you. The galvanized coupler on the back doesn't matter it's not directly exposed to the flame. I know you said you'd probably only use it outside but still, many who watch this wouldn't/don't know that. Stay safe everyone, and be informed.
Very good point Jay. If CZcams still would allow annotations I would make note of that in the video.
Jay Cee good sound advice! Care to check mine out? czcams.com/video/t9OlRHBh_Tw/video.html
The amount of zing on the flare will not kill you. As a precaution set it in a wood fire outside for about 20 minutes and the zinc will burn off.
Lmao. After the first burn the tiny quantity of zinc will burn off. The threat of zinc poisioning is insignificant compared to the fumes that will come from what is being melted or heated lol
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_fume_fever#Treatment
I would not be worried about such a small amount ....
thanks for the video. been looking at other designs and yours is the one I will go for
Thanks to your video i made this single torch for my foundry and a 2 burner torch for my forge.
Ah, yes, the German standard of holding force; guten tight
My favorite standard as well!
I thought that "gutentight" was German for "virgin?"...LOL!
@@TrojanHorse1959 Ha!
What if your guten free? How tight do you get it then?
it is not a German word..aim German..
Minute 8:07 YEAH! SHAMELESS KY PLUG!! LOVEIT!
Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum KY and plugs usually go together in another way butt I'm not quite sure how to break it to you.
ElementalMaker that’s cool, I’m not judging you, you’re into what you’re into. You don’t need to explain it to me!
Very simple and easily attainable design. Saved me a bunch of time designing and scavenging the parts stores!
Bs6.0pstroke_ 28 glad it was helpful for you! Thanks for checking out my channel!
I’ve watched at least 15 of these on how to make a burner, and I think this one has been the most simplest and comprehensive covering all the unknowns. So after months of trying to decide on the right burner today I started buying the parts, though I AM curious why so many people use the welding tips drilled out yet this one works just fine with a quarter inch plug drilled out with a “60k bit” Which by the way seems to be about 2.65 mm. Hard to find locally but Amazon did have it for about eight dollars in tungsten. Thanks for making it sensible and doable. The flame seems to look right for the square forge I’ll soon weld up. I hope the lack of a Venturi doesn’t impair.
That's how we got metric and SAE sizes in our vehicles "I'll use metric since I have some lying around."
Oh I know all about that. I used to have a Land Rover and it was anyone's guess what manner of bolt had been used.
Nice job.
I would like to make one suggestion. Use a cordless drill to tap your holes. Generally speaking, people break less taps using a cordless than they do when tapping by hand.
64t120r thanks for the tip! Oddly enough the only time I've ever broken taps was with a drill LOL. I'm bass akwards though, so that might be why.
Well . . . go break some. That is funny. I have to say, very good technique then. We get more broken taps when people do it by hand. Either way, I'll have to look through your videos and see what other goodies you have.
Try tapping with your Drill Press. Drill hole, remove drill, insert tap. Everything is lined up. Turn and feed by hand or..... Get Tap Spinning, turn off power and feed down. Use to do it a lot in the machine shop for Quick and Dirty Jobs.
David Dedrick some day I'll rack up the balls to do some power tapping on my drill press. I do it on my cnc mill, but I know there isn't any flex there, where as my drill press isn't super rigid, despite being "Rigid" brand.
But.... Think of making a Video of trying the process. Scrap length of Aluminum and say a 1/4-20 tap. Not really necessary to keep everything locked down super tight. When you drilled out the Brass Plug you let it float a bit. In tapping that "float" is o.k. Just keep downward pressure and with no power you can stop the chuck by hand it you need to. Still have to back it out by hand but much faster than hand tapping both ways. In joy!
Good show as always, thanks for sharing!
Nice!
Simple and functional
Love the design (it should be noted that galvanization should not be anywhere near the fire).
Thanks! And yes zinc and fire generally dont go together. In this case it's all the hardware store had, and it's such an insignificant amount you would need to be huffing it LOL
GBEZE
Just soak it in vinegar and then brush off the zinc.
What the diamètre you dril the square head plug please?
Thank you tributary House Ltd😉
So, I didn't have an 8 inches pipe and I didn't have a #53 drill bit...I tried with a 10 inches and 1/16 orifice with a 0-30psi regulator...this is an inferno! I didn't even try full pressure haha.
Thanks for the tutorial, I had an idea of a venturi burner, but it required much more work.
COOL! thank you for sharing this. Now I had better get busy in build mine.
How hot is this burner? You think it would be sufficient to power a gas forge on its own? (able to reach forge weld temps fairly quickly) A lot of guys use two burners, but I am wondering if it is necessary.
Jake Makes mine is hot enough for a forge check it out!
czcams.com/video/t9OlRHBh_Tw/video.html
You can check lp gas orifice charts on Google for btu and pressure. Run mine at 22psi and get 250000 btu
Jc Polston czcams.com/video/t9OlRHBh_Tw/video.html
Actually these things work good i work AS a Metall builder\Knife maker in a little shop (2 men) and we got those propan torches Mount in diy furnaces made Form gas bootles ! Its more than enough for blacksmiting hardening and melting brass silber copper and so on
in the correct envireonment, this temp flame can be used to get to welding temp, however the refractory materials and forge shape have to be pretty efficient. i suggest a dual set up of this, by using the 30psi regulator and adding a tee for a second burner, you wont need as long to get steel to welding temp with two, and it could pretty handily liquify the steel in an efficient forge/ foundry
Little bit of motor oil in a squirt can does wonders when drilling...
The final build is bad-ass, though. Great work
SparksFly vd40 ;)
He did say a little KY jelly would do the trick 😊
@@robertidenya1432 saving that for the spare nipple ;-)
@@japudjuha hehehe
Will be making this! Thanks for the video
Your very welcome Terry! Good luck on your build!
I really like it. The work is great.
Very nice burner You have built here.
However, you should not use the Teflon tape in the BLUE package, it is for liquid, like water.
They make Teflon tape especially for gas pipe with a YELLOW outer ring.
Be aware, be safe.
Thats not true at all. You can use blue ptfe tape for gas. No problems. If anything skip over the ptfe tape and use dope.
Colour usually determines thickness. Check approvals for your jurisdiction. But as Josh said. Use the dope man. I dont know anyone who uses tape for gas or oil.
@@sliderdrago8189 in my jurisdiction, once the pipe hits a certain size, you use both. I thinks it's after 1 1/2 inch.
Seriously folks remember the build is an occasional use forge burner outside or in a shop. I wouldn't worry about what teflon tape to use unless I was hooking up a stove, furnace or water heater in the house.
Don't need any of that.. its low pressure!
For everyone worried about the galvanized coupler. IT'S BEHIND THE FLAME. therefore it's not burning
so use to seeing the other channels taking a thousand measurements to make sure its center glad to see im not the only one eyeballing things
Best burner flame i have seen out of 10 CZcams builds.. good work!
Thanks!
I concur! Plus, it's a better design than most commercial burgers available!
I have limited experience, but it looks to me that videos like this almost always show the burner burning beautifully in the open air. They rarely show how the burner performs in an enclosed furnace without additional air to support the flame. That is the question. Does the burner draw enough air for a strong and efficient flame in an enclosed furnace?
It does
5:17. Thank you for filing correctly.
That's what I needed to see. Thanks
great job man¡¡¡¡ thanks for sharing this kind of knowledge
I believe "Blueblock" for fitting joints as opposed to teflon tape.
Or the yellow tape
That "cheap steel" is in fact ductile iron or malleable cast iron. You can tell by the chips when you are drilling it. Steel will spiral, even with a dull bit. Cast will give a granular chip just like the ones you got. Home Depot doesn't normally carry steel fittings as they cost more and few if any would ever know the difference.
A better way to mount your burner gas jet might been to have used a 1 1/4" pipe plug with a hole drilled in the centre big enough for your gas jet to go through. Since the pipe plug has a 4 sided boss cast onto it you just drill and tap one hole to retain your gas nozzle. To get your air flow just drill 4 or 5 suitable holes through the plug around the boss. Much stronger and less likely to fall apart.
Norman May no one cares smartass
You can also tell it's cast be the mold marks on the side.
You do know steel can be cast, just because something has casting marks doesn't mean it's not steel. The chips or spirals is accurate.
Meilleure vidéo , meilleure flamme bleu ,meilleure conception , bravo
Wow, that was pretty simple, wish I would have watched this last night, could've saved me some cabbage. 🖖😎⚒
It is a mistake to hold a object in your fingers/hand when drilling. I have seen so many accidents caused by holding with fingers/hand.
Lana yea I agree. I drilled into my finger by holding it in my hand too close. Had to get stitches wasn’t fun
He also states never touch a spinning chuck.... Then proceeds to stop a spinning chuck by hand twice...
Can use a MIG welder tip instead of drilling-out that tiny hole in that pipe-nipple cap.
Scott Fain yes
What size, .025?
YesDeere13 .060 would be the same as his. I'm sure .045 would work, you could use a torch tip file set to widen the hole.
Having some fun when showing laymen how to make a homemade torch makes it entertaining.. I learned from this, Thank you
Thank you very much Francesco
Really cool. It's look like so easy to build and works so good.
Sandro S. Geraldo it is a very easy build and works great! Thanks for checking out my channel!
It cuts to commercial right when you're lighting it
"And then he died"
"So many nipples, unbelievable" :D
Great video mate.
And not just because the nipples tho.
Awesome build, love it.
Thanks Scott 👍
Great video I've watched a few videos now on this subject. They all have made it so complicated. Yours however right to the point and easy to follow. So thanks.
Thanks Chris! Glad you found it informative!
When drilling, tighten your chuck in two places or more... lessen the likelihood of the bit loosening.
Yep, tighten all three.
And use cutting oil
Why do you sound like AvE :D
I built one from the plans, works great, I have the stuff here to build a second one, hopefully I can get started on it soon!
Woooohhh, de 5 videos que he visto éste es el que más me ha gustado, gracias, nada de flama amarilla
You say to not touch a "spinning chuck" but you touch it everytime to stop it!!!
bob sunderland do way I say not what I do LOL
Do as I say not as I do 😆😆😆😆😆
@@ElementalMaker Old hands or professional always touch the chuck we know what we are doing through years of experience and mistakes.
Not bad. Unfortunately you cannot run this type of burner with forced induction. I used a tee and brought my propane into the side of the tee and used a .6mm mig tip for a nozzle. Super efficient and runs way longer on way less gas. No brass needed in my setup either. Everyone copies Majestic or Diamondback forges. Those need about 30 psi of propane to get up to forge welding temperature, mine achieves the same temp at 6 psi. I run mine at 3 psi for forging. Also...as stated, zinc will kill you. BBQ regulators have enough psi....but are low flow regulators and will not work. Get one from Suburban Propane or a Propane supply outfit.
What are you using to provide the forced induction?
This little blower motor works great!
www.zoro.com/dayton-blower-75-cfm-115v-045a-3016-rpm-1tdp3/i/G2510164/feature-product?KW2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI18a3qIbQ1wIVlddkCh3AlwXwEAAYAyAAEgKU1_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
This is the burner I made.
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Studio 68 the FB link you posted isn't working for me. Do you have a video anywhere that shows your set up?
Studio 68 would have link to seen your burner, but I dont do that BS facebook ch!t no more....
That is a kick ass video Mister 👍🏽
Thanks so much. I now have a full functioning forge and burner
Awesome! 👍
I thought for a second that I play AVE vid:D
I didn't believe it wasn't him until I tried pitch correction and couldn't get a perfect voice mach.
hehehehehehe he said "nipple" hehehehehehehe
It seems K Y gelly is the ticket.
Just made it my self works like a champ
thanks so much, great video
Watching you work is painful.
We've been spoiled by watching AvE and This Old Tony. Lol
Machinist nightmare. but it worked.
Probably painful for him too...
Haha.....someone is gonna be miss digits soon...and NO I don't know how to make sandwiches...haha
I just test fired my burner based on your design last night. Worked perfectly. Now I can start building my gas forge. I made two changes, however. First was to the end cap. I drilled and tapped it to take a mig tip. The other was to the squared coupler. I used the drill press to put four dinples in where the screws that hold the burner tip assembly can seat themselves. My thinking was that this way I don't have to over tighten in order to prevent the assembly from shifting. Regardless, greatly appreciate you taking the time to research and make a video on the subject. Stay safe. Cheers.
Axel Heinz i like that four dimple idea to hold the gas input. I have used a coal forge for 30 years but now that i live in the woods, propane is easier to get than coal so I am building a new propane forge.
@@beshkodiak My new problem is setting up an efficient ventilation system. On my second test of the forge I set off the CO detector and then the wife (that was scarier). Hope to be using the forge soon. Good luck, Besh.
Good job, building one right now on my channel and this helpful.
Excellent work
Great build, EASY to follow instructions! LOVE THE VID, love the humor! Always been interested in black/bladesmithing...just bought first anvil (Hay Budden) 160 pounder! Gotta start somewhere! Now the forge and burner! This vid is perfect, THANK YOU!
Greetings from Salem, Oregon! Keep up the GREAT work! SUBBED! 👍👍
Thank you!
That’s a hell of a place to start. Good find.
Just finished making a modified version of this. Instead of buying the regulator and other propane fittings, i bought a $35 basic weed burner and cut the flare off the end. Comes with a 10 foot hose, dial valve and squeeze control. Just file the edges and slightly enlarge the tip hole for better flow. Great video tho!
This works amazing
Hey Elemental , do I need to put a round piece metal on the back end to control flame if its outside and windy ??
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Joe! Glad you enjoyed!
00:12 Awesome! Man that was quick too! I'm gettin' one!
Great video mate simple and helpfull with showing the part you need asap i will give this a go . From new zealand choise bro
I have found that when drilling soft metals it is much better to grind the cutting surface of the bit to a - 5 to 10 degree angle as to the face you will avoid the catching or grabbing effect at the end of your drill as it punches through. What is happening is as you go through the end of your cut the face angle vs the cut angle are too inclined and the softer metals tend to let the drill dig in too quickly. If you reduce the angle of attack it will not tend to pull in as the surface begins to punch through the last portion of your cut therefore reducing the likelihood of your tool ceasing at the end of the punch. Good vid and thanks for filling me in on the foundry. keep it up.
Now need to do a giant "garage heater" version! Would be awesome to see what you'd come up with
Today .. I make this ! I will let you know how it turns ! Semper Fi from Maine !
Well done!
Good job thanks for sharing.
Great job Well done
Nice work.
Nice build man ! 😊
Peace from southern Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks a bunch!
How did you attach the hose from regulator to the clear tubing? Was it with the double barb fitting I assume I don’t remember seeing you show that part installed.