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WILL I DECLUTTER THE MARY-EL?! This or That #13 Decluttering my Tarot & Oracle Decks

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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
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  • @theseekingpath5416
    @theseekingpath5416 Před 2 lety +39

    I want Red Feather to release a new edition of the Mary El w/ the ALL the cards so you can choose. I know I would purchase it! Mary El is my soul deck!

    • @lbr88x30
      @lbr88x30 Před 2 lety +16

      They can improve the card stock & production while they are at it. They do a disservice to their artists with their poor production quality.

    • @theallisoncompendium
      @theallisoncompendium Před 2 lety +6

      Yes! And if they could not print the titles on top of the artwork while they’re at it, that would be amazing.

    • @shelbygivens1648
      @shelbygivens1648 Před rokem +1

      Yaaaaaas!!!!!!!

  • @WiteDahlia
    @WiteDahlia Před 2 lety +7

    I totally approve of your Lenormand plot twist ✨

  • @SilverCrowTarot
    @SilverCrowTarot Před 2 lety +10

    I absolutely adore the Tarot of Trees. One day I'll have it. Every time I see a video with it I get such intuitive hits. It gives me the feels. 😊

  • @ScholarBot
    @ScholarBot Před 2 lety +5

    You were on the right track with labeling the prisma visions as impressionist; Eads' style more resembles post-impressionism. But, you know... pot-ay-to, pot-ah-to. 🤷🏽‍♀️
    Thanks for sharing your decluttering process. I really respect when you give yourself that permission to hold off on making a decision or finding alternatives to let go. 👏🏽 Normalize! 👏🏽 Third! 👏🏽 Options! 😁

  • @SunsetBoughTarot
    @SunsetBoughTarot Před 2 lety +6

    I totally agree with you on Tarot of Trees…I also decluttered mine a while back. It’s just an RWS with trees in place of people! So even though I loved the size of it and it was always a perfectly readable deck, the tree theme didn’t feel like it was really giving me tree ENERGY in any way? It was more just an aesthetic, which was fine but meant that it wasn’t really providing anything unique in my collection.

  • @thebeautifulseason
    @thebeautifulseason Před 2 lety +7

    I totally had a Keanu Reeves "whoa" moment when you were going through the Llewellyn tarot and said "I feel nothing." I realize that I *never* allow myself to feel nothing! Doesn't matter what/who I'm evaluating, I'm compelled to push toward one end of the spectrum or the other. Wasn't always this way, so I wonder how that happened? What a liberating reminder! So yeah, thanks for that 😂

  • @tarotwithjae6426
    @tarotwithjae6426 Před 2 lety +1

    wow, i did not expect to learn Body Positivity from a flip through with a 1950's Pin-up Babe. Hats, and bikini tops, off to you Miss Hilda !!

  • @whichcraftnow
    @whichcraftnow Před 2 lety +8

    Didn't realize that I was actually holding my breath through most of this video until you announced that you were keeping the Mary El. (My sigh of relief was oddly surprising.) I bought this deck when it was available several years ago, only to learn a few months later (when I went to actually study it) that it was missing about 20 pages right out of the center of the book. Ok, fine...went to the bookstore and got a new deck... Only to realize once I got it home that the new one was a second edition. (Was brand new to tarot, and didn't understand why there would even BE a 2nd edition.) This was the deck that led me down a path of trying to learn kabbalah, numerology, astrology, and ALL the things ALL at once to the point that I got WAY too confused, and simply gave up on tarot. I stopped collecting, and thought I'd just never understand it. I'm extremely pleased to say I was wrong 😉 it kept calling to me, so i listened, restarted the quest and thirst for knowledge, and am FINALLY understanding... but haven't touched the Mary El just yet...except to admire the artwork, obviously. Once I have a full grasp on the rws courts? Oh yeah...the Mary El and I are going to have a nice, long chat. (Once i figure out how to interpret the 1st edition with the 2nd edition book.) That hierophant card is the best one I've ever seen. Period. I had feelings about it before even understanding what it WAS. Been doing shadow work with the hierophant, and have learned more about myself with that single card than i ever expected. That deck is powerful in more ways than one, and I'm happy that you've chosen to keep it. Why? I don't know. It's uour deck, not mine. Haha! But you never know...it may call to you when you least expect it ❤️

    • @elineeugenie5224
      @elineeugenie5224 Před 2 lety

      Oof thanks for the spoiler😊

    • @whichcraftnow
      @whichcraftnow Před 2 lety +1

      @@elineeugenie5224 I'm so sorry! Lol 😆 I didn't didn't even think about it.

    • @elineeugenie5224
      @elineeugenie5224 Před 2 lety +1

      @@whichcraftnow nooo, it's cool! I was worried!

    • @whichcraftnow
      @whichcraftnow Před 2 lety +1

      @@elineeugenie5224 me too! I saw the poll, and was like, "no. Just no." Haha! I've been watching for this video every day like my whole life would fall apart or something if I missed it. Ha!

    • @Umurhan999
      @Umurhan999 Před rokem

      I have the second edition and understood the first edition's Hierophant from the second edition booklet. Essentially the same concept, just not overt. I think the most difficult one to understand might be the High Priestess. You can find great analyses of the deck on CZcams, look for a video on the twos in the deck. I forgot the CZcamsr's name, she also analyzed the Buddha Tarot, looks at the twos extensively and studies the High Priestess too. That one should help.

  • @tarotgeek8494
    @tarotgeek8494 Před 2 lety +5

    Every time I work with the Mary-El for a long period of time I see new things and expand my interpretations. I do a deep dive every couple of years and I love it each time.

    • @Lisa_Papez
      @Lisa_Papez  Před 2 lety +4

      It totally feels like that kind of deck for sure! I should do another deep dive - it's been a while!

  • @aquariusowl3872
    @aquariusowl3872 Před 2 lety +5

    I literally drew another road on the way card my cute little lenormand deck. 😁

    • @Lisa_Papez
      @Lisa_Papez  Před 2 lety +1

      You did?! That's awesome! Can you share a pic in the fb group? Would love to see!!!

  • @mogvgb
    @mogvgb Před 2 lety +2

    Hilda is one of my absolute favorites, she pairs so well with Begin and Life Design cards. I love her for positive action focussed readings, or anything about enjoying life and bringing in joy. So glad you didn't get rid of her.

  • @pamelabatchelor9204
    @pamelabatchelor9204 Před 2 lety +2

    Into the realm of crazy deciding between SKT and Mary El no way

  • @hilarywesthoff
    @hilarywesthoff Před rokem

    I JUST discovered Prisma Visions and love it. I love impressionist artwork. Van Gogh and Monet are my favorite artists and this deck reminds me of them. You can send it to me and I'll purgatory sit it for you for awhile. 😁

  • @Peekaboorose
    @Peekaboorose Před 2 lety +2

    I am honored to be on the chopping block against the Llewellyn, and I'm totally being serious!! 🥰😂 That deck was my first true learning deck and will always be special to me. I'm glad you decided to hang onto it a little while longer 💜

    • @Lisa_Papez
      @Lisa_Papez  Před 2 lety

      LOL! JBG was super safe in this pairing - I'm surprised Llewellyn is staying for now - but hey, sometimes these surprise me!

  • @deckharlot
    @deckharlot Před 2 lety +1

    That Cute Lenormand kinda reminds of the Green Glyphs deck in terms of simplicity.

  • @jdavyslocker
    @jdavyslocker Před 2 lety +2

    I think you might need to try the mini decks from James Eads - I used the min Light Visions and OMG I enjoyed the cards more for being smaller.

  • @lexwithbub
    @lexwithbub Před 2 lety +3

    I'm so glad you mentioned the big visions guidebook (even though you don't gel with James R Eads visions decks). It's an amazing book. Big and chonky, luxurious. Weighs a ton! I've never had a hardcover book that's so solid. It's almost a weapon 😂

  • @beetheinfinity6290
    @beetheinfinity6290 Před 2 lety +1

    Threadbound Oracle is my slow burner deck. I use it usually when I am between tarot and oracle practices.

  • @wompusslompus5424
    @wompusslompus5424 Před 2 lety +5

    Regarding group 1, don't feel bad about repurchasing a deck Lisa. Now you know that it wasn't the card stock, it was the art itself. You said you connect to the art far away, and that you like particular cards. Sounds like it might be a good candidate for an art print instead!

    • @Lisa_Papez
      @Lisa_Papez  Před 2 lety +3

      100% FOR SURE! Thanks for this!

  • @tinapolley9073
    @tinapolley9073 Před 2 lety +1

    Omg! Thank you for putting cosma to Book of the dead! I’ve been wanting help making the decision

  • @Jaymies1022
    @Jaymies1022 Před 2 lety +1

    Sigh of relief after watching Joie de Vivre and Phantasma pairing! 😂 I think I was one of the heated comments for that poll. LoL!!

  • @lilyofthevalley9044
    @lilyofthevalley9044 Před 2 lety +1

    Shimmering veil Weigh kicks over Prisma vision

  • @aspasiarising4732
    @aspasiarising4732 Před 2 lety +2

    This was fun as always, Lisa. Thank you for sharing your decks, thoughts, and decisions.

  • @steffymuze
    @steffymuze Před 2 lety +1

    Sara M. Lyons = Cute Little Lenormand, got it bc of you (t's my 1st one 💜😊 & yes too cute

  • @theallisoncompendium
    @theallisoncompendium Před 2 lety +1

    I also got Cosma and Prisma Visions and the big book during that Kickstarter…and I’ve never used either! There’s something about the art close up. I can’t explain it! I also feel like there’s this blue wash over all of Prisma that bothers me.

  • @jamieloom22
    @jamieloom22 Před 2 lety +1

    I appreciate your doing this, its so tough to declutter. I have all James R. Eads' decks and while I love his artwork and quality, I am never called to read with any of them. I prefer the small size Tarot of Trees and really was disappointed with the large version. I have many editions of the Mary-el and would never part with any of them. I kept the original B&W SKT but sold the Vitruvian so I could justify buying the Revelations. For me some decks are readers, some decks are for study, some decks are just esthetically beautiful. If they don't fit one of these categories, I pass them on.

  • @soulfullivingwithheather
    @soulfullivingwithheather Před 2 lety +2

    Some tough choices! I absolutely love the spacious tarot. I'm surprised that you don't have that one. I feel like you would like it similarly to the elemental tarot majors. I place myself in the spacious tarot easily. I would love a tarot of trees that size. Mine is huge. I struggle with it. Do you have the book for tarot of trees? That really helped me connect with the deck. Thanks for sharing and blessings to you and Peggy. 💫💜💫

  • @paperstorycraft
    @paperstorycraft Před 2 lety

    That purple unicorn bag 😍 I’m sad I missed out on it and I’m hoping you get some more because it’s perfect for my tarot of the moon garden.

  • @itslauramorrison
    @itslauramorrison Před 2 lety +1

    Ahhh the Cosmic Whispers Rune Deck I want them so bad! And yours has the old backing that I like so much more than the new backs. I will be stalking your facebook group incase you post it in there for sale or trade.

  • @lisastevens2607
    @lisastevens2607 Před 2 lety

    Why was I holding my breath several times throughout this video? lol. You made good choices

  • @Merlin_reads_books
    @Merlin_reads_books Před 2 lety +2

    That trimmed version of the Llewellyn Tarot is a game changer 😮 it's amazing without borders!! I was not expecting that 😍

    • @Lisa_Papez
      @Lisa_Papez  Před 2 lety +1

      It's really pretty fully trimmed!!!

  • @thewarrioresther7997
    @thewarrioresther7997 Před 2 lety +2

    I really want The Spirit Keepers tarot Revelation Edition! I would never get rid of it if I had it! 😍

  • @phillwernet9241
    @phillwernet9241 Před 2 lety +2

    Loving that tarot cloth!! Can I ask where you got it from?

  • @pamelabatchelor9204
    @pamelabatchelor9204 Před 2 lety +1

    The whole point of Seasons is that they keep cycling through their Wheel of Life.

    • @Lisa_Papez
      @Lisa_Papez  Před 2 lety +3

      And yet - each turn around the wheel is a bit different! :D

  • @taurusmoon8936
    @taurusmoon8936 Před 2 lety +1

    If you ever get rid of shimmering veil, le ne know 👋 lol great video!!

    • @KittyKat-xn7fy
      @KittyKat-xn7fy Před 2 lety +3

      You can still purchase the deck, it's not OOP

  • @oldsoulmermaid1543
    @oldsoulmermaid1543 Před 2 lety

    Yay…you’re keeping Hilda!

  • @InfinBee
    @InfinBee Před 2 lety +1

    Always fun to watch a "This Or That"! I never felt drawn to Shimmering Veil but it is super enjoyable to see your joy for it

  • @RumerHaven
    @RumerHaven Před 2 lety +1

    Well, one highlight for me personally is you saying “cheekiness” just as Hilda’s rump flashes on the King of Pentacles card (circa 8:55 timestamp 🍑😂). But otherwise, what a meaty and difficult This-or-That! I’ve also struggled with James R. Eads, as I actually don’t care for Van Gogh (gasp! 😬), but I do own and love the Green Glyphs Lenormand, and I haven’t really worked with Cosma Visions but am holding out hope I’ll find use for it distinct from Book of the Dead (which I loooove and have used much more so far)-blame Kelly Fitzgerald’s influence. ☺️ But I also have the Celtic Lenormand and support you holding on to both that and Green Glyphs, as they can be used for such different purposes-the Celtic Lenormand lends itself so well to ritual work beyond everyday readings. I did just rehome Threadbound Oracle with a friend, but I do love it and think it pairs great with This Might Hurt Tarot.

    • @Lisa_Papez
      @Lisa_Papez  Před 2 lety +1

      I really would lovvvvve to hear more about how you've used Celtic Tarot with ritual work!!

    • @RumerHaven
      @RumerHaven Před 2 lety

      @@Lisa_Papez I just have a lil’ intention-setting ritual box in which I lay out relevant runes in the shape of a geomancy figure that best applies, too. Then beside that I lay an appropriate card from the Wildwood Tarot with a few Celtic Lenormand cards surrounding/underlying it to bolster the intention and energies/outcome(s) I’m aiming for (and underneath THAT is a little paper with the intention written out, which I use to create a sigil, too, that I meditate on and burn). My go-to when I really want to balls-out reinforce a goal and light a fire beneath me. 😄 And I’ve found the little “spell use” sections in the Celtic Lenormand guidebook are really helpful for choosing which cards to use! 😊

  • @tinapolley9073
    @tinapolley9073 Před 2 lety +2

    I really love these videos. The Mary el 1st edition is great… I had the second and just didn’t get it. (Am thinking of repurchasing) the SKT 💕 I don’t own it but I love the idea and am very into the occultism and esoteric. Great to have in the collection, absolutely.

  • @crazybunnylady
    @crazybunnylady Před 2 lety

    Oooh now I'm tempted to get the Celtic Lenormand, even though I'm only just learning the system 🤔

  • @TarotwithRuby
    @TarotwithRuby Před 2 lety +1

    aaah I'm not gonna lie it hurts a little bit to see the tarot of trees go 🙈 i love that one so much because the trees make for such a grounded reading for me! like you said, tree energy is psycically/energetically further removed from us, which makes it easier for me to interpret the cards in a more unbiased way. i hope that makes sense. I also have just never been able to connect to the oak ash and thorn art, so to have two... hahaha still loved this video, but that was a little blow to my ego 🥲

  • @lilyofthevalley9044
    @lilyofthevalley9044 Před 2 lety

    Celtics Lenormand by Far❣️

  • @lilyofthevalley9044
    @lilyofthevalley9044 Před 2 lety +1

    Just because a certain deck has more options doesn't make it the best deck That's looking for a shortcut instead of realism

  • @serenityjewel
    @serenityjewel Před rokem

    I really don't like the Shimmering Veil Tarot. I am an artist, I like the art style in general, but for a tarot deck, I feel like the art is called in and doesn't relate to the actual meaning. It feels like that one tarot deck that was just a bunch of swatches and had nothing at all to do with tarot - the Hidden Waters Tarot. I didn't get it then or now.

  • @Songofthehealer
    @Songofthehealer Před 2 lety +1

    Lisa, what is that system of learning that you mentioned when talking about the learning the trees? I tried looking it up, but didn't have the spelling.

  • @tamipie
    @tamipie Před 2 lety +3

    You're getting another long comment, because this was traumatizing. (LOL) only because on Facebook I didn't get the whole story...but here we go. I have the same and also totally different taste as you...and we all know that's okay, I still have some feelings.
    First, you are a MUCH more oracle-y diviner than I am. If I'm honest, so the oracle pairings were completely off my radar. I just don't have an opinion. Then there is the Cila Conway thing. I understand that we all have our favorite artists, she is just not mine. Someday, maybe, I will get Shimmering Veil in a trade or something...and then it will all come together. Until then, I just don't feel the artwork. I've held the deck in my hand, and dare I say; I find it ugly. That being said, I didn't get Prisma Visions, in the big kickstarter, because I also didn't find it a really usable deck. I loved the big picture, but I didn't love the big birds in the Sword Suit. I do enjoy Light Visions, it has a more primal, witchy feel. I like decks that have a little sense of other-worldliness. So it goes. (but I kept the extra cards, they are just pretty and cool and that's okay too.) Did I consider the minis? yes, for a minute. In tins? are you kidding? but although I did cave and get the mini TWU, and I'm not sorry (3rd edition of what is basically the same deck in my collection) for the same reasons you talked about re: the mini OAT, I love having that mini.
    I never felt the Affirmators, if I had both decks - I have neither - I'd keep Hilda because she's so cool. The whole Paulina Fae question was also moot for me, because neither deck ever appealed to me. I love original Paulina, and Spirit Song. I also kept Witchlings, and that does it for me as far as this artist is concerned. I've been on a tarot diet, and I've found that I really don't need all the decks from a single artist, even though...I want them sometimes! I recently sold my Green Glyphs, because there are very few Lennie decks that I love, for a Grand Tableau, I will always go to my Lennie Tiles, and rushing ahead - how COULD you let the Sparkly Lenormand go. frowny face.
    Your mini decks...yeah, I keep thinking I'm gonna get a Llewellyn Tarot, but I don't need it. And I don't have it yet, but Notorious JBG is ON THE LIST high high high, perhaps the absolute next thing I'm gonna buy with budget. Tarot of Trees, I got as soon as it came out in matt cardstock. I thought I would love it, because of the colors and how cute it is...nothing. I let it go to a new home. OAT, I just love it. No need for a little one for me. I still don't have SAE and I am soooo excited for the next deck O M G. Also, I never got into Spacious Tarot...just didn't feel it.
    Okay, let's talk about you getting me all worked up about Mary El and Revelations...bad Lisa. I was so worked up. I love both decks, both are irreplaceable. (I do kinda feel like she's gonna reprint SKT III with the new deck when she releases it, but that's just me reading minds...are you soooo psyched for NWTS???? I can't even. I still love Cosma Visions. It's the only deck, I really purposefully do reversals with...the artwork really works that way. But I understand why you don't love it, I forgive you. (lol) Revelations is wonderful. I kept all three versions...so not sorry. They all feel totally different to me.

    • @Lisa_Papez
      @Lisa_Papez  Před 2 lety +3

      YASSS LOVE LONG COMMENTS! ;) So stoked for NWTS for sure! Oh yessss take the leap on Notorious JBG - i don't think you'll regret it! Lol sorry for the scare on Mary El and SKT ;)

    • @tamipie
      @tamipie Před 2 lety

      @@Lisa_Papez just playin' can't resist!

  • @trishrego3983
    @trishrego3983 Před 2 lety

    I dare you to not buy a deck for 6 months.

  • @TarotandWitchery
    @TarotandWitchery Před 2 lety +2

    Blah! Prisma Visions! Such a disappointing deck.

  • @pamelabatchelor9204
    @pamelabatchelor9204 Před 2 lety

    Mary El and SKT are both irreplaceable decks. come on......