The Top 5 Competition Shotguns!
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- What are the 5 new shotguns currently at the top of the tables?
We did this quite a few years ago now, it was about time for an update.
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The Guerini Invictus deserves a spot in the Top Dozen
Zoli also make a very competent competition gun
The Rizzini 460 is a belter and would be worthy of note as well
Kolar are very popular in the USA
In fact, if you throw the Yildiz Pro in there we can have a Top 10 boss actioned competition guns.
To add further clarity, the shooting videos on this channel are sponsored by Longthorne Gunmakers, and we love them. Extrapolate from that what you will.
So does Blazer and Gamba. SKB also makes a good one.
35 years ago I started shooting competitive North American Trap. My 'plain Jane' Lanber 12 gauge (non-ejector) wasn't going to cut it and I bought a third hand Remington 3200 Trap model. I recall paying about $500 CDN. About 200,000 rounds later, it's still busting clays and bringing home the shiny hardware plus a few bucks in options money.
The 3200 for a VERY long time had the fastest lock time of any shotgun on the market. I don't know if that's still the case but overall they were and still are for the people they work for very very good guns.
I started shooting with an 870 Remington pump which I shot 200 rounds a week for years. Keep it clean and there is very little wear on it. Remington quality has slipped over the years; the 3200 is a nice gun for sure.@@parrisgeorge9708
My favorite sporting clays gun is my ancient Remington 1100 with a Mod Trap barrel
Well done! Very organized and reasonably thought out!
K80, Perazzi, CG Invictus, DT Beretta and probably a Browning prosport maybe a 525/MK38 if we are talking currently in what mostly people use.
The Browning 725 series is worth using in competition.
I shoot a DT11 Black Pro and while I am proud of it, I secretly envy my buddy with a Kolar Max Trap. Of course this is when it comes to trap though. But when it comes to sporting clays, the shotguns covered are no surprise to anyone whose been in the scene for at least a year.
MK38 Trap for me. Use it for everything....apart from steel.
With bismuth those guns work beautifully. Bismuth is a little bit more expensive, but you cannot put a price on firing your gun safely and with a little bit more confidence.
Why not steel? I’ve shot steel in my 3000 3/4 3/4 for over 30 years. No problem :)
@@EmilMouritsen I'm not saying it doesn't work. I just feel more comfortable shooting bismuth in an old gun. But steel might work just fine
Gutted you didn't mention Caesar guerini invictus range...amazing guns and much better value than their competitors in terms of a quality competition gun that also looks stunning....I understand mk38 is a solid gun but I do feel mentioning medals with old guns is a bit silly, I mean someone won Olympic medals with a 26inch side by side at one point...but not anymore.
The Invictus range is epic
@@tgsoutdoors succinct wording and I obviously agree 👍
Guerinis aren’t worth the money or mentioning
Excellent choices Jonny but little disappointed A Baikal didn't make the list 😂😂😂😂
must try a Mirouko as you like them so much.
🤣🤣🤣
Love the mk38 but the grade 5s split stocks for fun. My go to is a 42 year old 3800 trap. Not sure why but they just feel more well made....and they ring like a bell when you fire them 😂.
I've got one of those 30inch monte carlo stock coin finished lovely wood disc set strikers drop points bomb proof and less than a grand no brainer
I recently bought a 12 gauge Franchi Instinct L to take to my local sporting clays range and it is absolutely glorious! I know it doesn't have the fit and finish as the guns mentioned in this video do, but for someone looking to get into the sport, the $1200 price tag on them is very welcoming.
I have the same in 20 GA. It's a good entry level O/U Made in Italy.
My grandfather would walk up to the line with a very cheap inherited double from Sears left over from the late black powder days and shatter one target after another until everyone got tired of watching him do it. Could he have shot better with a gun that cost more than his farm? Perhaps but don't know how.
i shot a Remington 1100 for trap and then got a older Browning and yes it made a huge difference in my numbers.
Money doesn`t make you a better shot, it`s all about enjoying the sport both the good and bad days. I now shoot an old 425 and an A400 and love them both depending what mood i`m in. Once again a great video
Hey mate, your channel caused an impluse purchase on a shotgun...
I ended up buying a Tikkakoski M17 just because it was weird. 27" fixed chokes (full and half), 2.75" chambers, sling studs, automatic safety and ejectors. There aren't too many floating around but it's a nice hunting shotgun.
I would like to see an updated video on Top 5 sporting clays / general purpose shotguns for under 1000 pounds, I saw a video from 2018 so unsure if that would still be current.
Krieghoff K-80 Parcours for me, use it for everything from clays to roe deer....
Great short summary. The Kolar, Cesaer Guerini/Fabarm, Zoli fans are going to putting this one on blast 😅.
😂 let them come
@@tgsoutdoors we are here wondering why Richard Faulds and his Caeser Guerini didn't make the list or a mention and a gun that won some Olympic medals a long time ago did.
Is Kolar just too expensive for what it can do, which is no more than any trap gun out there? They are very elite, but I feel they are over-priced, by thousands, just like the other top makers. I realize that special wood and engraving add greatly to the cost of these guns but even the basic models are still six or $7,000, which is just way too overpriced in my estimation.
In terms of best clay guns for the money
1 mk38/mk10/682
2 ultra xs/pro sport/ 694
3 guerini
4 blaser
5 krieghoff/perazzi for me
Some may dislike that but lets face it an mk38 can take you to an olympic gold, so just how much more do you need, besides custom fitting etc
Pretty fair comment.. except I'd put the miroku and browning as one.
On another note it is pretty much universally agreed that the miroku mk38 fixed choke 32" gun is one of the best guns you can buy period... but they only sell this version to the UK. I do wonder why that is?
I dont understand why they do not market a 32" fixed choke sporter...
@@mitchwoods5070 There's a shop in NYS that brings in MK38 fixed choke models. My understanding is that if you want the fixed choke barrels you're going to buy a trap gun and then either swap or modify the stock for the game you want to use it for.
Incredible information while entertaining, job well done! Benelli Man here! Just for family fun Clay shooter, using 828U Field, Vinci Speedbolt 12 g, looking at the Browning Citori 725 sporting vs the Benelli 828U SPORT, thoughts?
I love the 828U sport they are not much around and its a shame, good looking gun, also for a beginner easy to adjust to you needs that are going to change somewhat.
Curious as a new shooter who smashed a recent competition with a franchi semi-auto but looking also for U/O heirloom for son. Rizzini BR110 sporter fit in here?
value for money, shootability and durability its got to be the MK38 all day long.
I don’t know. Second hand MX8 are now very attainable
Great list Johnny. Awesome video mate. Love the Blaser f16 and the Perazzi High Tech are my favorite shotguns, just a little out of my price range. Therefore I shoot a Beretta 686 and a Browning Citori 725. Also have a couple semis. A Beretta multi target, with a Gracoil buttpad, and a Benelli Super Sport.
CAESAR GUERINI has to be on the list.
It should have been in Honorable mentions if nothing else!
CG compatible to Mossberg
@@FYMM69 very funny 😁 😂
I've never seen a nsca shooter in the usa with a miroku. I'd say 5th spot would be either Zoli, Caesar Guerini, or heck even the old Remington 32s and 3200's
That is true. You guys can’t have them over there, so maybe there should have been a US version 😂
@@tgsoutdoors - Correct me if I am wrong, but in North America aren’t Miroku’s sold as Brownings?
@@XLC-zd8dn They where marketed as Charles Daly back in the 70s great guns
Miroku = Browning
A gun that makes you fell like you will crush everything you shoot at here in the USA is a Kolar. If you ever get a chance to shoot one try it and you'll see it's right up there with Kreighoff
I think these guns would be most peoples 2nd gun moving up, so it depends on what you owned first, we'd all be biased in that case, with three 682's it'd most likely be a 694 or DT for me.
Loving my yildiz pro black!!
Great value guns
I find that clay shooting, especially Sporting Clays, is a fun way to exercise your shotguns when not in the field. Do you find that it's helping your game shooting? Or, is the specific equipment / technique a whole different way of shooting?
The top shooter in the world is using a $2400 semi auto Beretta A400. They are awesome and I love mine
Why do not see any Miruko MK10 reviews? I have one and it's a clay duster like I have never seen b4
Damn you are a funny bloke!! All the best from Yukon Canada!!
American guns very successful here is Kolar…interested to hear your take. Almost every weekend on what ever squad I am shooting on 3 K gunz two Krieghoff’s and a kolar
Krieghoff is the highest quality shotgun ever produced and also one of the most expensive. Many people aspire to own them. Kreighoff also uses the world’s top shotgun engravers such as G. Stoegner (aka G. Stogner) who has created 7 Krieghoff “Guns of the Year,” more than any engraver. Recently, a G. Stoegner gun sold for more than $100,000 US on the secondary market. The #2 Kreighoff engraver is Jana Schilling, whose 2009 Krieghoff Gun of the Year also sold for $110,000 US at Pacific Sporting Arms in February 2024 (call and ask them). Kreighoff shotguns are a good investment and store of value, like high end collectible cars - the better engravers almost always bring a financial premium when they are resold. Other top Krieghoff engravers are #3. Goeser, 4. Reich, 4. Nonn (tie), and 5. Creative Arts.
Good morning Johnny a year and half ago I picked up a Beretta 694 12bore. This gun shoots well but last weekend I noticed a crack in the gun stock
Just below the safety selector in the pocket were the receiver meets the wood. I know alot of folk that bought the same gun it's a well balanced gun, some of the people I know are having troubles with the triggers and a few having cracked wood issues. Have you heard about these issues in UK ???
Great show again I always appreciate your show
That is unfortunately the common place for Berettas to crack if they do. Not heard anything bad about the triggers, do you have more details.
One of the people I shoot with had trigger problems with his early 694 when it was new. He'd gotten it and it wouldn't shift barrels. He contacted Beretta and they had him send it to Cole Guns for work. The shop replaced some out of spec pieces and converted it to a mechanical shift unit. He's had no trouble since and has a bit over 10,000 rounds down the tubes.
I have a 694 and no cracks! The triggers are crisp enough for a mid range range gun , the only complaint for me is that for the first few weeks I accidentally hit the barrel selector while opening the gun top lever and my thumb would strike the selector this happened several times while shooting trap I wanted the bottom barrel and accidentally was selecting the top barrel. Called pull and of course click, I got that worked out just through use and being careful not to move the selector. I am left handed and it’s a left hand model so maybe it’s a lefty thing . I do enjoy the gun and am impressed you mentioned it in your review it’s not a DT-11 but it’s dam close for half the quid
I love my 694 no cracks no problems and the trigger is sweet crisp 3 1/2 lb pull. The only things broken are more clays for me than ever before. With about 4000 rounds in I have never switched the barrel selector unintentionally. It requires a deliberate action to move mine. Maybe it is a lefty thing Rick.
@@user-lg7hz2op4y on July 35 I received my 694 my wood was replaced with all new wood and this set was over the top I mean grade 5 but
with scratches and tooling mark's I called and sent pictures to Beretta never got back to me and luckley I've taking all scratches out that God .
and I'm happy with my stock talent from gun school.i hope no one else needs Beretta's customer support in the future...
Final thought watched it again…great video
Very surprised the Caesar guerini Invictus didn’t get a mention , I can think of a million reason why it should 😂
Fantastic guns for sure
Just curious - what do people who can't afford 10s of 1000s for a shotgun purchase, what are the 3-5 £750-£1200 shotguns for a middle class person to get into the sport? You mentioned Winchester 101. What else? Used lower-end Beretta or Browning O/U?
Most guns from the late 80’s and early 90’s are not pretty cheap and just as capable as they ever were!
Nikko, browning, beretta, Winchester, skb, classic doubles, gamba
ASE 90 Beretta & Kemen
@TGS Outdoors Would it be possible to do a review on a Lanber? Or even better, a video on the history of Lanber with the different models available, plus what you think went wrong that they dont exist anymore?
He did a video on lanber few years ago, look up tgs lanber, great guns- prices rised and the market overlooked them sadly
Which is better the Browning 725 sporter adjustable from 2021 (the new one) or the Miroku MK38 grade 3 adjustable limited Edition? Because I‘ve seen a lot of reviews comparing the MK38 with the regular 525. The new MK38 grade 3 is roughly as much as a 725 grade 1 I think. I do not know if the rise in the price of the Miroku 38 grade 3 ist mostly because of the wood and the adjustable Stock. I do not really care to much about the wood grade but for a adjustable comb. So the only MK38 that comes in consideration for me is the grade 3. So even though the MK38 is mostly compared to the 525 you put it in the list of the best competition guns and not the 525 or 725 but the Pro Sport and the Ultra XS Pro which makes sense. The new 725 is as far as I know a step up from the 525. So the MK38 is compared to the 525 but most people say the MK38 is better and the 725 is also a step up from the 525. So again after all this maybe confusion text because the 725 and the MK38 grade 3 adjustable are roughly the same price and are both better than the 525 which is the best?
I know this isn't what you typically do, but would you consider reviewing a Chiappa Triple Crown or Chiappa Triple threat if you have not already?
Excellent video again Jonny, trying very hard there not to be bias Ha Ha !
whats the future of the titanium gun?
I saw the new Zoli Z 1 at at a ground last week, a new clay gun for the UK market. What are your thoughts?
Kolar not even mentioned? Used at the Olympics and top world sporting clays
Never seen one in the UK.
@@christineatkinson1678 Was the video mis titled? Should have been "top competition shotguns in the UK that are normally seen"?
@@hbar314 Even if you look internationally Kolar dont make the cut they just arent popular outside the US.
At 0:42, you said that the K-80 is a German design. No, it is not. It is a copy of the Remington 32, which is an American design.
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I really would NOT call the K-80 a German Design. The simple fact is that it's a very refined Remington model 32 which Kreighoff built under license from Remington. See Johnny, us Yanks do come up with some good ideas on occasion.
Oh, I agree whole heartedly. It would be fair to say that K refined the design a little then?
@@tgsoutdoors I would say that is fair.
I shoot side by sides i really dont like the razed rib of some sporting shotguns to me it just ruins the look of the gun would be fun to see a pure clay competition shooter use a side by side i wounder how they would get on having to think about two triggers haha. Im only poking fun at the end of the day if you like a gun and it works for you then go have fun I have tried sporting clays with my side by side brakes them just as easy as those strange under and overs that the high end shooters use with the huge razed ribs and a stock thats all over the place you know which ones i mean.
Beautiful guns.
I wonder how much of the premium price is the result of performance enhancing features vs. Esthetics?
The longer I spend around it, the more I realise the answer is ‘some of the extra price is for features and a good Chunk is for exclusivity/service/capitalism
what about 682 gold e?
Renato Gamba is Olympic champions
What exactly is a competition gun?
got 3 krieghoffs .. nothing else will do
Hula is great the company been there for 50 plus years much better ingraving than anybody what buitifull guns
does anyone know if a single trigger 12 gauge over and under hammer gun exists?
🤔 if it did, it would be made in Austria 🇦🇹
@@tgsoutdoors Thanks! The search continues.
MK 38 being your gun 😜
I love you gun snobs your so english one reason i left my favorite gun is my zulix 20 gauge side by side 5 plus blbs i shoot 80 percent with it its 440 dollors shot it 400 times never misfired buitifull gun so i thought i might buy a benillie 8200 over and under but 3000 dollars wow i can buy 6 of my side by sides seems very expensive and your review was not good or anybody elses you all say it has more kick i love the gun but bennilies are over priced as i think we could have nuclear war quite easly money may not matter
blaser f3?
MX8, KM4, DT10, K80 and 682. In that order.
How very 2001. I don’t disagree btw
Would you like a W210 rustbucket to go with that sir?😅
@@1valg Compared with the overpriced rubbish Mercedes puts out today.... yes.
What about a Benelli?
so wich one it is pro sport or 694?
694
Browning top top
Yes I just watched it again…molar, zoli
Can we have the same on game guns
This show is about JC
Richard is winning everything with a Guerini and... no mention. I mean, I understand you are sponsored, but I THINK you should stay clear of that "top X yyyy" since you are obviously, massively biased. Or at LEAST mention you are getting paid promotions for some of these. I'm subscribed, and I like "most" of what I see but don't fall into raw biased adverts.
Guerini is a fair shout, apologies for forgetting it
edit - Further thoughts are that Richard could win with anything in his hands, as he did with his Beretta. He is one of the greatest shots that ever lived.
@@tgsoutdoors agree 100%
Benelli
Top 5 Game Guns?
Ever heard of a Blaser F3🤪
K-80 ten years of customizing to get it right
CZ-USA 😉
No 725 on my list. The XS Sport yes.
How about flodman?
Only ever seen one in the flesh. They have rave reviews by the 6 people who own them!
@@tgsoutdoors yeah thats true. U got a point. Thanks for answering my comment!
You missed zoli
Uhhh blaser, kolar??
Competition CLAY guns you mean. We have lots of different types shotgun competitions here and any competition gun should not have any engraving on it. That is superfluous faff that serves only to push the price up and shotguns are without doubt the most overpriced guns in existence. The fact that non comp civilians will pay 10k plus for a clay gun makes me want to puke.
Blaser F3? Anyone? Anyone? 🇨🇦👍
How is the F3 not here. Adore mine
Got an F3 Super Sport …. Superb!
Are you British
As handsome as you are maybe devote more of the video to showing the guns and not your face