How They Did It - Growing Up Carthaginian DOCUMENTARY
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- A history documentary on daily life in ancient Carthage. You can play as the Phoenicians in Humankind: store.humankind.game/?...
In this documentary we peer into the mysterious history of ancient Carthage. We know precious little about their civilization with most sources focusing primarily on macro level affairs like politics, trade, and warfare. However in this documentary we attempt to reconstruct what it would have been like to grow up in ancient Carthage and experience daily life in the past.
We begin with a quick overview of the social landscape by discussing the city's foundation as a Phoenician colony, the government of Carthage, its social order, and typical family unit. Next we turn to the birth of a child and the naming process which accompanied their survival of this dangerous milestone. Next we look at the typical family life in which they were raised, their eventual entry into the workforce, and their own marriages that would give birth to a new generation.
To bring it all to life we also present two hypothetical life stories of a rich and a poor Carthaginian to give you a real sense for what it would have been like to grow up in the past.
If you want to see more videos about Carthage we have many other episodes which cover things like the Rise of Carthage, The Punic Wars, Carthage's Other Wars, the Government of Carthage, the Religion of Carthage, Exploration in Ancient Carthage, and much more!
Bibliography and suggested reading:
"The Carthaginians" by Dexter Hoyos
"Carthage's Other Wars" by Dexter Hoyos
"Carthage Must be Destroyed" by Richard Miles
"The Fall of Carthage" by Adrian Goldsworthy
Credits:
Research: Vaughn Fenton
Script: Vaughn Fenton
Narration: Invicta
Artwork: Beverly Johnson
Editing: Penta Limited
#History
#Carthage
#Documentary
I love Carthaginian history and hope you do to. What topics would you like to see covered next?
In the meantime check out these other episodes on Carthage:
Rise of Carthage: czcams.com/video/XCbag4UIvBc/video.html
Carthage's Other Wars: czcams.com/video/vJ5BCtU9WPI/video.html
Government of Carthage: czcams.com/video/jTmEcYdaC8A/video.html
Religion of Carthage: czcams.com/video/ROY_WJj6b9k/video.html
I’m so glad you are making how did they do it videos again.
@@akirafudo4419 we actually have always been working on them in the background and have a ton of scripts in the works. Its just a matter of getting the art and animation through our production pipeline which proves limiting.
@@InvictaHistory sorry if i ask you but what you use to these video
I love the episodes of the daily lives of the people. Hope you continue to make more!
I love the episodes of the daily lives of the people. Hope you continue to make more!
Personally, I think the videos about average peoples lives are the most fascinating, they show much more of what it was actually like to live there.
Big agree, it's not a topic usually covered elsewhere
A well researched movie about a kid growing up to become a mere laborer in some ancient empire would be really interesting.
There's a name for it. "Social History", it emerged in the 1970s and is out of fashion now. The either kind is the "Great man" style of history, where one man changes history alone, we are usually made to waste time about his amazing family and his precious feels, how, because he was a bit sad, he had to conquer half the known world. There is quite a lot of fictional history that is the same, world events through one menopausal person.
Great man history is always big in the US, people there love that hackneyed shit. So you can get lots of social history if you are able to read and enjoy doing so and if you can be bothered to look for it, rather thinking this is something unique and new, as opposed to a passe school where especially people in America don't like that kind of history and prefer it to be via great men.
The "Wheels of Commerce" books by Braudel, covering all aspects of European economic life and development is my favourite among those, but I've also got social histories of the French Revolution, or "World Turned Upside Down" about the English Civil War, all the radical religious movements, many of which were thrown out to the New World for being too extreme, you know; bigamy or priests that are not really priests, so they don't even wear a dog collar, like you take to be normal where you live, but isn't normal in Europe anymore.
I was just thinking this when I clicked on the video
Hard agree! I did my dissertation related to social history, to me it's so much more interesting to see how people like myself lived
Zuckerba’al moves on to form an association he calls BookFace.
"Book"er
Lol.
@Roniixx true, but as Invicta says, most Carthaginian names are tied to their gods. So Zuckerba’al, or in your example Sukarba’al, would work out to “Sugar of Ba’al.”
@Roniixx You cunning linguist!
@@stephenknizek2651 And this must be the master debater.
16:53 I like that you put in the detail that ancient soldiers had PTSD as well. Makes this feel a lot more real, not sugarcoated.
They ain’t gonna sugarcoat it
Last night, the crying of children kept me awake…
-Rome Total War Creepy Carthage Intro Guy
Okay jokes aside that is exactly whats happening to me right now xD in a creepy hotel and some people's kids are just crying and yelling at like midnight.
when you first hear it: _His kids must have trouble sleeping_
when you hear it after reading about Carthage: *He was witnessing a child sacrifice*
"...Our few resources, as such, are precious, but biased..."
...THEY TELL TERRRIBLE LIES ABOUT US. THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND SO THEY LIE!
@@jakemarsh8967 Carthagize them bro!
@@ilijas3041 how didn't I think of that? ROMA INVICTA!
Senator: Have you ever wondered how Carthagian kids grow up?
Scipio Aemilianus: They *don't.*
Based and salt pilled.
@@gavinsmith9871 >Salt Pilled
So...a raw brick of salt, but carved into a pill shape?
Interesting...
*Youngling intensifies*
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST.
RamenBomberDeluxe He is talking about pilling salt over the city
If Carthaginian names survived and pronunciations were corrupted:
"By the time the war ends in 307 BC, Soccerball is a changed man."
It is actually easy for me to pronounced in an arabic way za3karbal .
Actually, some survived.
Hannibal is pretty ubiquitous around the world and, at least here in Italy, Amilcare (Hamilcar) used to be relatively common (nowdays it would probably sound a bit too oldfashioned for a newborn child).
@@sofou4683 ZakraBa3l
I live 2 kilometers from Carthage in a small coastal town called "La Marsa" which means the port in English. Carthage is epic especially during sunset I go there practically every day.
Greetings from Morocco my brother.
@@nah-brah lucky guy
Very cool. Its an open site then? not a museum site?
It is a whole city with different locations where you have to pay to visit, like an open-air museum however most of the ruins are free to visit especially the amphitheater and old Carthaginian houses, there are even roman baths. When I go for a walk I usually start from the amphitheater and work my way up to the punic port with the famously described round military shipyard and the commercial port, it's s breathtaking during sunset.
Wow. I would love to go there Ayoub. I've been to Syracuse which must only be a day by boat from La Marsa.
It's so frustrating that there is so little information on Carthaginian daily lives, as much as I love ancient Rome I wish they had not been so thorough in their destruction of the city.
*Laughs in Scipio Aemilianus
It's all ballocks...Carthage was rebuilt and became the jewel of Africa. Greater and better. It was the most important city for Rome, in Africa, all the way untill the Vandals come. In fact when the Carthage was taken by the Vandals it was end game for Rome. Before that it was an excellent city to live.
It's a shame considering the Punic civilization taught the Greeks (and by extension the Romans) their alphabet. Those people taught the West so much and all they got for it was to be burned down completely without so much of a chance to tell their story.
In fact it was the Phoenicians who spread learning from ancient Mesopotamia and the Fertile Crescent around the Mediterranean and beyond.
@@MarvinT0606 the Punics were decendents of phonecians, not the self same ones. Also, the reason we use the alphabet instead of cuneiform, heiroglyphs, or linear b is because the Phonecians survived the collapse and were the only remaining literate power.
In reality, the Phonecians were opportunists, conquerors and slavers like anyone else in the day.
Videos like this always make me wonder what future historians will believe about our current society. I could just imagine the academic throw downs where different historians use Mommy blogs and parenting books to support their theory on how children were raised in the early 21st century.
Historian A: "Clearly this civilization thought that dairy was evil and only gave their children plant based drinks."
Historian B: "I have unearthed clear evidence of dairy consumption. I have found recorded footage of propaganda for milk consumption on an ancient data storage device my team unearthed. If one translates from the ancient English, the common refrain in all of these was "Havest thou milk?".
The societies that kept the best records are best known to us. No society has kept better records than our current one. I think hey will be able to accurately reenact every aspect of our lives from what we leave behind. :)
@@poetryflynn3712 We have libraries with paper records too, They still sell current encycolpedias, and people often transcribe Digital into print for personal use. We are in no danger of being forgotten unless we are deliberately erased. Besides. Current storage is pretty long lasting, We have moved away from magnetic discs, for the most part.
@@talyn3932 Until as Poetry Flynn says our servers die on us. Or Big Tech decides to change formats on us, making older formats unreadable after a while. Or even technical? Try reading an old floppy disc. Or how we keep deleting our own digital information. The old paper archives often had entire exchanges between people at the ready. Like you can still read correspondence of person X with person Y. We however have email inboxes, and those tend to fill up. And instead of archiving them we often delete our old email correspondences. We're even encouraged to do so. No, I reckon in a 100 years the records of the paper society before us will be in better shape then our digital society. Digital works well in the short term, in the long term paper will survive better. And I say this because I work at an archive.
"They ate each other's asses. We found multiple sources from pre-fall media that confirm this!"
@@SarisChannel18 God help us if they ever found an intact pornhub server. Ass smoothies? Facial Abuse? Okay, hereby the word archaeological society has decided to skip this civilization. Just dig right through them.
Writing a Historical Fantasy novel set after the fall of Carthage in 146 BCE and will certainly be listing Invicta in the acknowledgments/sources portion of the novel. Your Carthaginian series has really helped synthesize some of my research.
Go for it. I would love to read it.
Mago was my favorite character they should've done more with him.
Chadgo should become the narrator of the series
Imagine the episode where Mago is given a command
"Mago, fetch me some water"
"Polemarchus"
"Pardon?"
"My name is Polemarchus"
Ouu the drama is palpable
Fun Fact: Mago means Magician in Spanish (Part of the territory that the Carthaginians were a part of) and there is a story about the "3 Magi Kings" who visited Jesus.
Yeah, my heart went out to him! I've been stuck in a few nowhere jobs but nothing like being enslaved in ancient Carthage!
@@TheMikester307 could've been worse he could've been a Roman Slave
The thing that makes Carthage just as fascinating as the Greeks and Romans has gotta be their diverse trade empire status. There's simply something fascinating about how a Carthaginian merchant family might have been made up of a Greek wife, Punic/North African husband, all while interacting with African-Italians and conducting trading throughout the Mediterranean. Might have even been friends with the local Gallic or Iberian mercenary soldier.
I LOVE learning about trade in the ancient world! There's just so much there to learn!
Learning about history just makes me realize how utterly hollow modern life is, even if significantly easier.
@Baldwin IV They weren't being pushed and prodded to do so by the elites, and even if they were, the vast majority of people wouldn't have known or cared because the whole world wasn't interconnected via the internet
Yes! The diverse trade empire! Spot on!!
We have forgotten that, for millenia, Mediterranean Sea was not a frontier, but a road.
Carthage, doing literally anything:
Cato: *C A R T H A G O D E L E N D A E S T*
Literally living rent free.
I'm sorry, that is by definition figurative.
TBH, Cato ending every speech with that phrase should demonstrate just how terrified Rome was of Carthage. Imagine being so afraid of a place or group of people so much that you literally can't sleep at night until it's destroyed utterly.
@@jeffreyestahl pretty sure it wasn't fear so much as utter hatred... (especially because of what Hannibal did!) Its like saying "the imperial Japanese must be destroyed" during ww2...
@@FireFlanker1
When Cato said those things, it was after Rome had already won 2 wars against Carthage. If the US had fought 2 wars against Imperial Japan and had won and despite that, it kept coming back, the US might have had a different opinion about them.
Not me crying over a fictional child 😭😭
We should cry for the real Carthaginian children
I love this "how they did it" series. Always so fascinating.
*Invicta:* Zakarbaal
*Default Captions:* Zuckerball?
*Invicta:* Zakarbaal
*Default Captions:* Socer ball?
*Invicta:* Zakarbaal
*Default Captaions:* Zuckerburg?
Zakar balls?
Future historian: we lost the actual name but by transliteration I think It means Zucker's balls
Wow that fictional story at the end was amazing with the different perspectives, you have outdone yourself yest again.
I love these “average life of a…” shows. They help fill in the blank spaces left by all of the wars.
Well, I'm early, it seems. Excited for this one.
Another legend
Glad to hear it, Carthage is soo often overlooked its a great shame. By the way I loved your latest video on how troops got to the battlefield. Its these under-the-hood aspects of history that I love and its awesome to see you do it justice.
@@InvictaHistory Thanks :) I thought about calling the video "moving to war: how they did it" but it felt a bit cheap to steal the name :P it worked out alright in the end :)
@@SandRhomanHistory no worries on using the "How They Did It" tag if you feel its appropriate for the title
As am I
Mago’s story sounds like a fucked up historically accurate version of Spirited Away
I loved the story of the young lad, Soccerball.
Soccerball grew to marry Volleyball, & had little balls of their own, golfball & pinpongball.
@@kadlethbelmont2522 They had other children as well. Polandball, who dreamed of into space. Basketball, who was a nervous wreck-a real basket case, you might say. And Baseball, who served as commander of the city garrison for a time.
So far loving the artwork on this!
Thanks, Beverly does a great job with these. I actually turn them into themed shirts and apparel on our store if you are interested: invictahistorystore.com
Commenting from modern Carthage (Tunisia, north Africa) ! Great video mate thank you :)
We need to get the boys back together for another punic war:)
@@MFC343 I'm always in!
I've always wanted to ask to a Tunisian this question : How is the heritage of Carthage treated in modern-day Tunisia? Is it widely celebrated? It is part of your modern national identity? Is it often cited as a source of national pride? Are the ancient gods of Carthage celebrated and taught about in modern Tunisia just like with the modern Greeks and Italians with their gods? Is its aesthetic, architecture and visual design reused and source of inspiration for Tunisian artists and everyday people? I'd really like to know.
@@Game_Hero Todays Tunisians are in no way related to the ancient black and brown Carthagenians
@@matiusbond6052 How can you even know that?
I find it so sad that we don't have many accounts about Carthage they're fascinating
They sacrificed their own children, which may be why they founded the city in the first place. Good riddance. Some cultures were meant to be destroyed.
@@Quintillius you took the words right out of my mouth good sir
@@Quintillius +AMEN+
@@Quintillius I don't think they were all following this cult. Much we know of Carthage now is from Roman sources and thus, probably some kind of propaganda. Maybe they didn't sacrifice their children
@@Quintillius Yeah but thats kinda based
One of the greatest episodes I've watched. Carrthage never gets boring, and how lucky are we that you love Carthage at heart
Right on!
Growing up as kid in Carthage was Fire🔥🔥🔥
You can do anything in Carthage: join the army, become a merchant, be eaten by a god as an infant... anything
I'm Tunisian and I'm glad to see Carthaginian history being revived and discussed 😀 The romans made their level best to erase the memory of Carthage and the Carthaginians. Carthaginians were a mixture of native amazigh (ancient Libyans/numidians) and Phoenicians. When you say "african" it's better to specify North African or Amazigh otherwise could be misunderstood as being black african.
Thank you for teaching me the word Amazigh. Really want to remember that word. Too many books use "Libyco-Punic. "Libya" and "Numidia" are both Greek. Great to finally know the correct word.
Also, your Amazigh ancestors totally rocked!!!
Going by history you are mostly Arabic because the Muslim Caliphates dominated north Africa for centuries after the Roman empire. So, you are just as related to Carthaginians, just as the people in the U.S. are to native Americans. You're not related to them, they were a different group of people that inhabited the land and they looked different and had a different culture. Do you worship Baal Hammon and Tannit? I know the answer, no you don't. So you have no relations to Carthaginians, you're just a different group of people who are living on the land for this time period. Also, Carthaginians where a mixture of colors from Black, brown, to white. Take your hate for black people somewhere else. You're not special or going to live another hundred years because you are white, get over yourself.
@@charlesyanni5195 He doesn't know anything. It was Libyans, Berbers, Carthaginians, and Numidians living on the land. That is some word he made up to connect to a group of people that his hateful self has no connection too. Ask him something about Baal Hammon because the Carthaginians were a religious people not focused on Amazigh or whatever that racist made-up word means. Also the Carthaginians were African whose empire was on the continent of "Africa".
@@moscuadelendaest I wasn't trying to be racist and I have nothing against no race of people. But, the original comment made the racist statement be careful not to confuse the term with black African, like there is something wrong with being labeled or related to black Africans. Africans come in all shade tones from white to black and from inter mixing through the millenia we are all related.
@@sterlingsimmons2212 lol, In Tunisia we're simply arabised berbers not real arabs. We're not white but mediterranean.The arab league is just a recent post colonial political movement between the Middle East and North Africa not based on genetics, simply for political/economic reasons. What are you talking about ? The berbers were never replaced, not the same situation like the U.S. at all. Most of Maghrebis remained descendants of the same berbers as 3-2000 years ago. I literally did the dna test and I'm 78% North African. Yeah some European blood was added too, but it did not become the dominant lineage/gene and nobody is 100% anyway , no such thing as ethnic purity. The dominant lineage amongs modern day Maghrebis has remained pretty much native North African berber with minor Southern European input. Arabisation was mainly a cultural and linguistic process NOT genetical you can type here on yt dna results of moroccans,algerians,tunisians and see yourself. I'm just shocked at what you wrote, how ignorant 🤦🏻♀️. Do you that cultures/languages evolve during the course of time? That people convert ? We're not pagans anymore thank God, we converted to Judaism,Christianity and then to Islam. It's like saying that because the romans were pagan and spoke latin , modern day central Italians that are christian and speak Italian have nothing to do with the ancient romans lol. People convert, languages evolve, cultures evolve, identities come and go , but people remain from the place. "Carthaginian" as a distinct identity doesn't exist anymore and punic ceased to be spoken by the time the arabs invaded in the 7th century and converted us to islam and we started gradually to adopt arabic but we mixed it with the indigenous language Tamazight or berber and that's what created darja or darija which is the Maghrebi arabic dialect , a mixture of arabic and berber (+ French later on with colonisation, in the case of Tunisian dialect some punic/latin sub-stratum too)
Zuckerbaal. Intersting. Was there a Baalzos as well? XD
I think he's got to worry more about Eduardaal than Baalzos or Elaaln.
Mark Zuckerbaal. Ha, Ha can't make this stuff up. We are just reflections of the past.
It is so much more important to me to think about the people and the culture than it is to think about the big facts and dates... which are obviously still necessary, but I really love this perspective!!!
This might be the best episode about ordinary ancient citizens yet, and it's pretty well woven given the subject. Love this subseries!
Your avatar though
This is really excellent, and an illustration of why I love this channel. A serious attempt at reconstructing a picture of Carthage that, for a change, isn't disproportionately obsessed with tophets or the wars with Rome. Zakerbaal and Mago reveal a real talent for storytelling. Well done, and thank you.
THE MAJORITY OF cARTHAGENIANS WERE BLACK AND BROWN NATIVE AFRICANS,NOT AS SHOWN IN THIS VIDEO AND OTHERS LIKE IT.
@@matiusbond6052 False man, just false.
North Africans were people like the Egyptians and Berbers, which were and are not black.
@@matiusbond6052 Black and brown Africans live south of the Sahara, in sub-Saharan Africa. The Carthaginians are clearly historically attested as a Semitic people. Only rarely did black Africans interact with the Mediterranean world, mostly the Nubians who lived in modern Sudan and Kenya and could travel up the Nile to serve as mercenaries in Egyptian armies.
@@SimuLord Right, but the Nubians..., they were not only mercenaries. They also built some of the more lasting kingdoms and cultures of history. Even dominated egypt before the classical period.
@@talyn3932 THERE WERE NO CAUCASIAN EMPIRES IN ANCIENT aFRICA. A human cannot evolve into a Caucasian anywhere in Africa,the Caucasus mountains r not in Africa.There are videos confirming the RTHAGEobvious people,one is; ANCIENT INHABITANTS OF CARTHAGE. tHE FEW cAUCASOIDS WERE PICKED UP ALONG THE TRADE RTS. You think people with brains and knowledge r stupid.The ancient black and brown BERBERS still live in north Africa,SO WHERE DID THE WHITE oNES WHO R NOT INDENGINOUS COME FROM? The Mediterranian is not in Africa,has nothing to do with it,and the 1st people to inhabit it were Africans.ANGOTHACLES anGreek commander and others described Carthagenians as black.E.Pittard ;;F. Ratzel;L. Bertalome and other NOTED European anthropologists examined Cartage cemetaries ALL bodies confirmed black ancestry.IN 846 bc when Carthage was formed Europeans were only hunter gatherers,and the middle east was only 2 ticks above primitive,and they certainly didn't swim to Africa and build Empires but couldn't build anyting from where they came. You act as if this information is not available or logical, you are sadly mistaken.TRUE history is in the modern information age Fabricated illogical videos are easily destroyed ,and will be more exposed .
I would love to see how Carthage would be defended and what kind of defenses they'd have or a video about their navy and their round dockyard/port thinggy.
I think they called their harbor The Cothon, and the district of the city around the harbor the Le Kram district.
see Drachinifel's naval channel, they have a good discussion on the difference of Greek(spartan), Phoenician and Roman Navies in one of the ancient artillery videos
We LOVE!!!! The in depth experience of living their lives with them at the end of the video. I had goosebumps the entire last half, instead of just being fascinated. It was beautiful.
Ditto.
I have been to the site of ancient Carthage. The circle harbor is still very visible through the overgrowth - amazing!
The Byrsa Hill that's there now is the ruins of the Roman Byrsa: where the Romans cut away the top to make a flat, horizontal line, with perfectly 90 degree steps going up the entire Byrsa. The Punic Byrsa HIll was gently sloping.
Did you see how red the mud looked at the modern Byrsa?
Can you make a video on how was life growing up in Ancient Greece ?
Yes, I second this
I'd think it would be better if there are episodes dedicated to specific Greek cities or regions because Greece was far from being unified and similar in its history
Love Invicta for this kind of videos. Conflicts and wars are spectacular and easy to glorify, we forget that it's only a small percentage of ancient people's daily life.
Certainly do more videos ending with the different lives. Amazing touch.
Love your videos as always Invicta. I'm quite fond of Carthage after learning about the famous Hannibal Barca, so I always enjoy learning more about it. Appreciate your indepth research and the gorgeous art that humanizes and brings life to the ancient world.
I always appreciate consistantly high quality videos you guys release. Keep up the awesome work
These videos into people's ordinary lives are beautiful. History tends only to remember the big names and battles, we can easily forget everything is made up of countless people who lived their lives as best they could.
Love this format, the hypothetical character’s stories 🙌🙌🙌🙌
I’m glad to hear you enjoy making videos like these, because I love em! They paint a picture so much better than any basic explanation ever can.
The stories at the end really helped paint a picture of a living history, seriously enjoyed that! :D
This angered Cato
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST
*who punished him SEVERELY*
Dude, uncool
Oh the oversimplified fan Boys starting to show up in full force
@@RodolfoGaming what can I say, his vids taught me more than 12 years of history classes 😅 with added humor at that!!
Excellent video! You (or your staff/partners) do a spectacular job in writing these fictional stories which are very informative and provide more insight into daily life than history books and non-fiction often can. The awesome art and animation work to tie everything together. Great job altogether!
LOVED the short stories that you added. Hope there'll be more !
You put a lot of thought and care into this episode, and it shows.
Thank you for sharing. I was lucky to have a very good history teacher, she herself found history fascinating so she always peppered her lectures with anecdotes about actual people. This was, of course, far more interesting than memorizing timelines of wars and contents of treaties that followed.
When it comes to requests, something about Slavic tribes?
Never been this early!! So excited to watch this video, love this series!
Thank you for a wonderful episode, Carthage is such a fascinating topic. I've read of the lives of "common" peoples of Egypt and Sumeria and this enhances my knowledge of the subject. Once again, thank you
I think that the two hypothetical lives you used here really add to the video. They provide some good real-world examples of the themes you discuss and help to place them in more understandable terms that we can empathise with.
My favourite empire and a wonderful insight to the hegemonic empire that could have been in North Africa
Thanks 👍
Great video. I would love to see more of this sort of stuff for the little know cultures of the world. I would also love to see a growing up as a Scythian.
i love your videos! this is the most fascinating part of history to me , the daily lifes of people, what they thought and how they felt is always so overlooked.thank you so much!
i love this series so much. i would love to see a 'growing up in numidia' video!
Also, R.I.P Carthage, the more I learn the more I feel bad for ya.
This was so educational. Thank you for doing this.
This was an AMAZING video, and id love to see more!!
I remember asking about this topic a few years ago! Thanks so much for making it!!
This was excellent! I really enjoyed it, especially the comparison of two childhoods. Love the artwork, too!
Daily life info is also my favourite. More on women and girls please 🙏💕
Silius Italicus, in his Punica, says that Hannibal had a wife - Imilce - who was sometimes tame but sometimes wild, who could ride horses as well as Hannibal. He claims that Hannibal and Imilce used to ride together to Celtic festivals in early Spain (Greek "Hispania"). The rest of the Barca women, though, didn't like her, thinking that she was too wild and demanding. (Silius Italicus says that she saw Hannibal's army as "our army" although Hannibal didn't see it that way.) The other Barca women made her go back to her father' Ilipans house in Castulo (Castel Ulo or White Castle) to give birth to Hannibal's only son. Although Silius Italicus' veracity is only about as reliable as Livius'.
Some historians claim that Hannibal Barca's mother was a priestess/prostitute to Aphrodite, goddess of love, at Mount Eryx on Sicily. The war destroyed the town of Eryx on Mt. Eryx, but Hannibal's mother cajoled his father, Hamilcar Barca, into paying to let the surviving refugees from Mt. Eryx who had followed Hamilcar's entourage back to Carthage rebuild their Greek-style temple to Aphrodite outside of Sicca in modern-day south Tunisia.
In Spain, legends say that the Barca women established a cloth industry that included silkworms that Hamilcar supposedly brought over from Carthage to Spain. Livy, however, claims that, in Spain, the Barca women's lives became austere, and that by the time the Romans arrived, the older Barca women had become protectors to the younger generation of women living in the Barca palace in Kart Hadasht (Cartagena). Livy claims that the victorious Publius Cornelius Scipio, after conquering Cartagena) returned to Rome with one of the older Barca women and paraded her around Rome in his victory parade. After that, she became an elderly slave in his household. Livy doesn't give her name.
Well done as always Invicta! I’d really love to see an actual historical fiction series on your Carthaginians.
Man those cities right on the coast were so beautiful. The architecture is just timeless and jaw dropping
Dude you guys come up with the most entertaining topics
Yay, Carthage is covered, ♥️
send more, pls
That first story had me crying at the end...
Carthago is always being covered.... If you know what i mean 😏
@@_d-- no need to be salty about it... ;)
Thank you for this great piece of work ..
Great window into our mysterious human past. Thanks for this.
@invicta - in order to dig deeper into Carthage, it may be a good idea to look at Malta which was under it's influence for several periods (Malta changed hands between the Carthaginians and Romans). Malta is very rich in history and Pheonician written text was first understood when in Malta they found a Pheonician / Greek contract written in both languages - inscribed in stone. Similarly, in Malta there are a lot of Carthaginian remains and finds that can shed a lot of light about this amazing ancient culture.
Any chance of early migration period , Gowing up Visigoth/Ostrogoth, traveling the land looking for new home, Huns chasing you every step of the way
This is awesome guys keep up the good work!
I can say I’ve been waiting for a video on this subject for the past year and a half
Thank you for spreading knowledge about Carthage! I would like if you could make a video about the Phoenicians since people don't know much of the ancient inhabitants of my country and since they are so influential in history
Yes!! Ditto, that! The Kinaana and the Kinaatu! Could always use to learn more about the ancient inhabitant of the land that the Sumerians called Ken-na for Land of Stone.
Ay another Invicta video!
Man! This is awesome, i wish i could see you trying this concept with other civilizations
I love the drawing style and the storytelling format
i'd totally watch "Life in Ancient Sparta (or Athens/Babylon/China/India/Hawaii/Africa)," if you haven't already!
Excellent as always. A few notes on the Chartaginian name.
- rather than imitating the Greek, the patronymic tradition is the Semitic way, still found in Arab countries.
- hamilcar doesn't mean servant of mlqrt but is the Greek version of a name meaning brother of melqart.
- the "servant" names have "abd" in them which means servant/slave in Semitic languages (same word in Arabic)
In addition a name like Zakarbaal has two easily recognisable words for Arabic or Hebrew speakers.
Zakar is from the root of rememberance and Baal means Lord (was the chief God). Hebrew and Arabic now us the word Rab for lord but Baal is also used in Arabic
@@nah-brah Baal is used in hebrew as well.
@@stylianospapadopoulos6139 thanks sir. Wasn't sure if still used in modern Hebrew as it is in modern Arabic but good to know. Sister languages.
@@nah-brah It means "master" or "husband", both in an archaic or religious context, not everyday language as far as im concerned. Greetings :)
@@stylianospapadopoulos6139 thanks, very similar to Arabic where it now either means "Lord" in a religious context (i.e God) or "master" but only in the context of a house. So a stay at home mom would be "rabbat bayt"
The hypothetical story was great. I was zoning out thinking of other things until you told the story and that's when things started to sink in.
Pretty underrated video. Loved it.
I don’t know if anyone’s said this yet but I love how that reconstruction of a Phoenician man from DNA is always in the background. Little details like that matter.
ERE ARE PLENTY STATUES,WRITTEN CONFIRMATIONS ANTRAPOLOGICAL CONFIRMATIONS,DRAWINGS AND MORE OF pHOENICIANS/CARTHAGENIANS,THEY WERE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE OF THOSE LANDS,SO HOW COULD THEY RESEMBLE THE MAN YOU SPEAK OF?
@@matiusbond6052 They weren't. The historical account of Carthaginians in particular describe an olive skinned folk. The Phonecians themselves were from the Levant, the cities of Tyre and Sidon (Whom founded most of the Mediterranean Phonecian cities), and Byblos, who remained in the Levant Area. They were Cannanites. Who we know through genetics resemble the modern day people of Lebanon. The Mormon church says they are black because of the curse of ham, which is fucking racist to begin with and also complete bullshit.
Association with Sub Saharan Africans at this time was extremely limited.
Carthaginians were a mixture of Phonecian (Cannanite), Greek, and Berber peoples. All of these people were on the lighter spectrum. multiple scientific sources confirm this, including genetics and actual historical descriptions, like from the romans.
Yellling in all caps does not change facts, nor is a fact racist.
@@matiusbond6052 lmao stealing others history doesn’t lift a race up. How about you study actual Sub Saharan history instead of claiming others
Where's that?
Your comment frames you as severly ignorant ,illogical and just plane lost in this area.Subsahara in the context you claim is a racist term by story in ancient Africa.Europeans'and some Arabs who have NO history in Africa.IN 846 BC Europeans had no technology to build ships or swim to Africa when Carthage was formed.THERE WERE NO CAUCASIAN empires IN ANCIENT AFRICA,tHE Levant was originally inhabited by Egyptians who had been sailing the seas for thousanda of yrs before other civilizations could even build a boat.GOOGLE...PHOENICIANS 1ST BLACK CIVILIZERS OF EUROPE,AND THERE A NUMBER OF STONE carVINGS OF ORIGINAL pHOENICIANS.tHE Bible says Phoenicians?Canaanites are descendants of Ham father of the dark race,and there are videos confirming itthrough ancient drawings and carvings.ALL NATIVE AFRICANS ORIGINATED FROM SUB SAHARA.tHERE ARE MORE PYRAMIDS IN WEST AND CENTRAL AFRICA THAN IN EGYPT.i STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH TRUE HISTORY AVAILABLE TODAY AND NOT ILLOGICAL FABRICATIONS EASILY DESTROYED BY TRUTH.i HAVE BEEN TO NORTH AFRICA AND MANY COUNTRIES,OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVEN'T..
Interesting, would love to know more about carthage
Amazing story-telling. The hypothetical family story was a nice addition towards developing perspective.
i really enjoy these videos, they are so nice and you almost never hear about these things. Its always wars and battles that get the attention.
Thank you for making this video. Most people I know do not even know what Carthage was.
Most ppl don’t know who Abraham Lincoln was
Nice video! Some of you "example" stories are heartbreaking to hear
Excelente vídeo!!!! Parabéns!!!
That's fascinating!
I'd like to watch more videos of this kind. Could you please create something similar about Scythians and Sarmatians?
The first picture of the city is one of the best pictures/drawings i have ever seen. I want that one saved on my PC. It is so fucking good looking! I love it
Do Numidia next (talk about Saint Augustine, Priscian , Apuleius, jugurtha, all the berber kings etc)
Ya know, coming back after a while,, the quality in your videos has always been there and feels familiar. That said, there is still a sense of improvement that I can feel, and I'm glad you're still doing well as a channel.
You’ve made such a wonderful channel here, so well done!
I'd love a Life in Ancient Thrace, that'd be interesting!
I’d assume they had a lot of salt in their diet
Ok, that made me laugh! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice one
Well i kinda disagree about salt diet. As much as i know, back then Salt was an extremely valuable and expensive good that traded with gold, since it was Allowing the food to be sustained much longer giving a upperhand to army and Siege provisions. Again as much as i know Salt was the Main reason why sahara desert was able to being populated by peoples like Garamantians. İ dont really think that you can have a Traditional common diet out of such a Valuable good.
@@ylmazirdenyazc8393 First of all, salt wasn't as valuable as people think it was back then. Sure it was more expensive than today but there's an ocean literally chalk full of the stuff and it will naturally appear on rocks. It was not as valuable as gold and when we hrar of people being paid in salt its likely a mistranslation of salt rations.
Second, I'm pretty sure they are joking about the fact that when Carthage was destroyed the Romans salted the land as well. I don't know if its true but its part of the legend
@@ozymandias3456 oh i got it.
Just finished my 2nd run on Humankind, what a pleasant surprise that they sponsored you! I always pick Carthage in the Bronze Age :D
Loved the personal stories!
As a Tunisian I want to tell you that Carthage is not Phoenician colony . And Phoenicians is a Greek name. We call them the Canaanites.the real story is We the Berbers the original North African people a Canaanite merchants came to us from the east and merged with us in this land and we became a civilization and the first naval fleet in the Mediterranean. Our civilization included peoples from Sicily and Iberia as well. We, the Carthaginians, knew our trade methods, and we were the first to leave the Mediterranean to the African coast in the south. Our sailing and trading with the peoples of Britain included our history, unfortunately forgotten
Great topic. Thank you for posting. I have read two books on Carthage that were excellent. The Fall of Carthage by Adrian Goldsworthy and Carthage Must Be Destroyed by Richard Miles.
I actually used both of those for some of the research but most of of came from the work of Dexter Hoyos whom I highly recommend
@@InvictaHistory Thanks very much. I'll check it out.
Excellent video. Well done. It is not often we get a look into the everyday lives.
The video I’ve been waiting for !