3 Scale Modeling Challenges I Haven't Figured Out Yet
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2022
- Replicating textural details in 1:24 scale takes some trial and error. Engine turning, braided cloth wire, and wood veneer are three Doug thinks are worthy of exploration. He is searching for the perfect solution. In the meantime, he has some tips on gluing, decals, and 1:1 engine turning.
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Doug is a detailly kind guy!!!
For machining, try chucking a small eraser similar to the standard reddish-colored pencil eraser; the sort which has a slight grit. This works very well for me. It should work extremely well on a high quality milling machine. Best wishes from Virginia! Cork
Definitely a push car for a nostalgia front end dragster. Looks really awesome.
Look at braided fishing line for old school ignition wires.
Another great video sir!! If I was make a video about things I haven't figured out yet we be here for hours lol.
This was only 3 of many!
Thanks for sharing uour tips. I'm planning on making the '74 Grand Turino Squire Wagon. One of my childhood cars with lots of memories!
For your braided cloth covered ignition wire. Try this, at sporting good stores that offer fly-tying items buy some lead wire, comes on a spool in different guages. Take a piece say 4 inches long and lay it out straight on flat surface and roll a flat file over the lead wire. As you roll at an angle the files grooves imprint the soft lead wire. Epoxy the ignition wire in place and paint.
On top of your station wagon, I suggest the canoe in weathered fibreglass red. Cheers Eh.
I have to try that. Thanks for the tip!
Thanks again for great information, always worth the time to watch!
I like all your shop , that really dice , hi from springfield ✌
oh word have mercy thanks for sharing
I believe the swirl pattern you showed is called ... Damascusing - this was all the rave in the 50s to have your dash finished this way
Once again Doug, brilliant, different content!
We all have projects stalled, due to many variables. Lack of parts, skill, vision, tools or consumables. So nice to see such a skilled modeller, has such human issues as the rest of us. Can't wait to see the results of your endeavours!
thank you, more to come!
That’s next level detailing.
Ushi Van DeRosten makes woodgrain decals both dark and light, also several manufactures make photo etch wood grain templets for your airbrush
For cloth wrapped wire or hose/tube I use paper tape from the drug store. Lay it out on glass and cut long strips the width you need to wrap. Spiral wrap & paint...done!
Looking forward to the video were you get this all figured some really good ideas enjoyed .
Glad you enjoyed it!
Louisville modeler Harry Fogerty used a technique for engine turning years ago that worked pretty darn good. He covered the area with Bare Metal Foil and then took a typewriter eraser, the kind that looks like a pencil with a brush at the end, sharpened it and cut the point off flat at the diameter he wanted. Then using a light touch he spun it over the foil and proceeded to overlap as he went down the row. The end result looked very good, but where are you going to find a typewriter eraser in 2022?
They still make wooden pencils with erasers; chuck one in a drill and use a hobby knife to turn it down like a lathe.
You must be too young to remember typewriter erasers. They were gray, not pink, and had a mild abrasive in them to remove the ink from the paper. Erasers on a pencil are soft without the abrasive, which won't provide the friction to duplicate the turning action.
Thanks for the tip. I had seen something similar w an eraser and fine sand paper
I would like to try that. Turns out typewriter erasers are available on Amazon!
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*Very cool video~There are several things to try to figure out in Scale~Some may never come to you~They will all get under my skin and drive me nuts till I can figure out the remedy~I know exactly how you feel my friend ~Thank you for sharing 3 of yours :))*
Very Nice video
Go with the canoe. You'll need a rack made of a pair of oak boards 1.5x2.5 inches, mounted about 3 inches above the roof. Soon I'll be trecking my 17 foot cedar strip canoe on top of my '27 Model A woody. It's a wow, trust me!
"17 foot cedar strip canoe on top of my '27 Model A woody" I can just picture it, really cool!
True gentleman
Make that '56 into a fly fisherman's car, parked on a trail next to a flowing stream. You might find some references in old beer ads for Blatz, Falstaff, Hamms, Carling Black Label, etc.
Thanks for the interesting idea!
Muse ... just a thought maybe try small diameter micro solder for those vintage cloth type spark plug wires - easier to score and bend into place
I used to use a green 3m scrub pad and cut it to a circle and glued it to a sanding pad and put it in a drill to make a pattern on a stainless steel countertop at my paint store to win the store competitions. Looks cool, but it does wear off eventually, so we had to do it before each store competition
Awesome video Doug!! Got a list of "how do I" myself. LOL! I'm with you on the cloth wires. The closest I've come is by rolling a shop file over copper wire. Looked ok but not real enough for me. Eager to see that cool woody finished! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Mark. Already thinking of eventual follow-up videos!
@@ModelCarMuse Look forward to them!! Have a great week!
Regarding engine turned metal on model dashboards for old open type race cars, or whatever it is, I saw a method in one of the car modeling magazines. The modeler took a piece of rod, about pencil length, but that's adjustable to your taste. He then cut small discs of coarse sandpaper- a paper punch or metal punch set works here. He then superglued or epoxied the paper side to the end of the rod. If using a drill, use metal rod and slow speed, if using wood dowel or plastic rod, twirl by hand as you would a pin vise drill. He would spin the sandpaper dot on his race car's aluminum dash, slightly overlapping each application. It is important to make sure the sanding tool is flat on the surface ( sanding rod perpendicular to surface) and to take it slowly, carefully- you'll have to change out the sandpaper disc's as they wear, but this seemed like a pretty cool solution, if you try it, hope it works for you. The modeler submitting the tip was adding an engine turned dash to a larger scale Blower Bentley from around 1914- 18, can't remember exactly, but the method should work for 1/25 scale just using smaller diameter rod. You could probably dab adhesive on the rod then dip it into a thin layer of whatever gritty substance such as metal powder, instead of sandpaper....
Ive used headphone cords for cloth covered wire
For the woodgrain, I have used cigar wrappers, soak in water. Flatten them out ,dry and cut to what u want, used for dashes and woodie sides
I also used the cigar wrappers on the floor boards for a box stock model A roadster
I think a cedar strip canoe would look amazing on top.
I agree!
I’ve been doing all cars since I was a young child, I’m now old where was this teacher when I was in school?
Push car for sure Doug!!!
Really great channel. Thanks for posting your content.
I am a cabinet maker for private jet aircraft.
I also do touch ups on our veneer and full finish clear coats.
I understand your “scale wood grain” dilemma.
I often have to put wood with no grain feature in place, and color to match or create my own grain .
Maple is perfect for this.
Like tongue depressors or popsicle sticks.
You can find such low visible and smooth grain appearance that it will look like scale lumber.
For engine turning…
Try applying a finish to your parts and turning into the finish.. not the plastic.
And try a natural material.
Paper Q-tip rod etc.
But I’m not even certain scale machine marks would be visible without a magnifying glass put in place for the person to view and appreciate.
Hope these ideas create answers and not more questions.. lol
Thank you for some well thought out ideas based on your unique experience, Billy! Will definitely have to do a follow up video.
Have you thought about making the trim around the wood grain out of balsa wood ?
It took awhile but I finally found a contact shelf paper that worked for my woodie
OK - for cloth-covered wire, try using lead-core fishing (trolling) line. You'll be limited to applications where the available wire diameter is appropriate to the scale of the model you are working on, but it looks perfect. Unfortunately, you'll probably have to buy a hundred yards of the stuff at a minimum. But you can also strip off the outer covering to give you a finer gauge lead wire that is easy to bend to any shape - I used that for years for spark plug wires on 1/24-1/25 scale cars.
Give Uschi van der Rosten a look Doug. They have some really nice woodgrain and veneer decals. They even make a set for a 41 AMT Woody.
Love your videos Doug, many thanks from Nova Scotia...
Thanks for watching!
Try painted string for the old plug wires
Awesome tips and ideas for us viewers as well, Doug. Thank you for this video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
25 years ago I made a 1/43 Bugatti Type 43 engine for Andy Martin which incorporated the engine turning. Turning was done with a steel mandrel, an abrasive compound. The trick was to not apply too much tool pressure to the surfaces. Cheers, Cody.
The benefit of the steel mandrel is the outside diameter of the affected area is consistent just like a full size effort. So as to avoid excessive tool pressure you'll need an Albrecht spring loaded mini (0-.06ish) drill chuck. Cheers, Cody.
That sounds like a good solution.
I am sure no help but those are excellent challenges look forward to seeing the end result
I haven't tried it yet in this scale down but I plan to for gasser style builds. It's pretty common in custom painting to get the engine turned look with Gold/Silver leaf. I think I've seen it done with BMF on a dash.
Interesting idea!
Hi, make a video of your emco unimat 3 lathe
Great video Doug thanks for sharing those great tips
Some great tips. SJS made a cloth ignition wire but it was dark great not white. Great Video!!!! Thanks for sharing
Cratex rubber buffing cylinders will give you a fantastic engine turn. Get the fine drum style ones. Polish your part first! Then engine turn it. You can do it all on your little mill.
Awesome ideas Doug. I've been searching for "cloth" covered ignition wire for some time. I thought the wrapped floral wire might work, but everything I've found the diameter is too large... The longer one builds models, (not just cars) the more you find out you don't know or need to solve to get what you want it to look like.
Interesting techniques. Hopefully, you will get them figured out. Thanks for sharing.
Another nice video Doug ..... 🙂👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Great work Doug. I'm hoping you'll post the results of woodgrain experiment when you finish!
I also saw the #6 Corvette on your bench... the subject of an upcoming Muse, perhaps?
I was thinking about your engine turning. If you laid gold flake over the plastic you could use it make turns in the gold flake. You just have to go super slow and take your time. Gold flake is very delicate.
Interesting idea, thanks, will have to try it out.
ID Crisis has a pretty good tutorial about it on CZcams. They were using gold leafs and making engin turns in it in the 60s with motorcycles. Indian Larry was very famous for using it.
heyo! first off thanks for these vids have given me too many ideas! lol after watching vid a little bell went off in my mind.. i inherited a telegraph key from my uncle with it was a spool of cloth covered wire. dont know if u can still get it but it seemes to be in scale! ive got about 20 ft of it:) thx agin for your vids!
What if you printed the wood grain lines on a decal and laid that over the brown color you've painted on the body panels?
Another great video! I did find some cloth thread that certainly had the look and size but it needs to sprayed with something to make it behave more like wire. I vote for the Squire to have a vintage canoe and a vintage dragster!
Thanks, Tim, will think about a spray or dip for that thread...
Challenge 1 - some art supply stores sell vinyl that has that machined look. I have seen it in chrome and gold. Challenge 3 - real wood grain...go to a cigar store and see if they have the real wood veneer used to wrap cigars. I used that many years ago. It was as thin as BareMetalFoil and made from real wood.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Back in the day they used push wire in old electric guitars. It had a cloth covering that you could just push back to expose the wire to solder to the pots and jacks. The problem is the gauge might be too thick for the scale model you might be building. It would be a perfect solution. Now i wonder if comes in different thickneses
Interesting thought! Would need some research.
Have to follow how are you going to solve these challenges. Very niche, but essential for realistic look. I've also wondered how to make nice oval tubing for exhaust pipes. Hard to make them clean. I managed to make tips out of antenna. Just had to heat them up before shaping.
Thanks for sharing, definitely there’s a lot of details that I want to accomplish but I haven’t find the best way to represent those little things, hope to do that some day, if I find the way to do the things you just mentioned, I will give you a call
Thanks! Looking forward to making a follow-up video.
pencil erasers for the dash pattern
Have you looked into silver leaf and turning on the leaf to get your engine turning effect? Wile it may not be exactly the color you are looking for you could lay a tinted overlay afterwards. Just an idea?
Interesting idea, thanks!
For your swirls try using a fresh Pencil Eraser.. Put pencil in drill press Eraser down and try using fine sand and water.. ;) Enjoyed listening to the tips. :)
Have you tried Gavitt cloth covered wire? I'm not sure if it's to scale, but it should be worth a look at least. It's used for vintage style electric guitar wiring.
I'll look into it, thanks!
Surfboard w/racks.
Doug Cloth Covered Plug Wires Likely Would Need To Be Made Using Ultra Fine Thread combined & Inter Woven Almost like Braiding ?
Hi Doug..another great video. Can I ask where you got your Drexel bit carousel from? Best regards Geoff
Homemade out of particle board. This sounds like a good idea for a future DIY video! thanks for watching
Canoe!
great tip about cross hatching small parts. I do 1:35 and that helps secure those small pieces better. Slightly "locks " them in.
Covering wires , have u tried shoe laces
Doug, I got a challenge for you. The next car I want to build is a 1966 Corvair Corsa two door hard top in Tahitian Turquoise. Now, the challenge is to find a model color close to this paint color. I really like Vallejo paints so any suggestions on which color that they have that would be close to my goal? Thanks so much for yor help.
I think Tahitian Turquoise would look great on a ’66 Corvair! Rather than guessing on a Vallejo color, go to the folks at MCW (Model Car World) or Scale Finishes to get an exact match.
Hello sir, I just came across your video. I am here in central Mexico, Queretaro. you have a very nice set of videos, I am thinking about joining your patreon... ;O)
regarding your cloth wires, I did a scratch build of a Messerschmitt Me 262 jet engine, all from scratch...@ 1/24 scale.
...for the cloth wires there I used lead wire the kind for fly fishing, it is very easy to manipulate and to drape it where it has the effect of gravity pulling on it.
... then I use Tamiya tape and cut that to width to scale...
... then , and this will take some practice and patience, but I can tell you are like me, and this will not be a problem...jiji
I wrap the tape around the lead wire leaving a tinny space to scale to create that wrap effect.
.. you can either at this point spray a varnish, I do matt, to seal everything, then place and manipulate it on the model, OR place and manipulate it on the model and then spray a varnish, I do matt.
I hope this helps... keep the muse alive...
cheers...
Scale paint will always confound us. We are using large instruments on 1/25 scale things. It is never going to be right IMO. Its never thin enough. The rest I have made amends with. I guess it will always be compromise.
Great video! I vote for the push car for a vintage front-engine dragster! What kind of mill is that on your bench?
Glad you liked it! It's an EMCO unimat 3. I've had it for 35 years.
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I'm interested in the concept of a decal over a painted seat to simulate cloth, I went to the website but was confused as to which one it is- can you provide me the part number?, thanks
On the Scale Motorsport website, >Decals >Upholstery, I "Pattern: Small & Large Diamond". However, any of the patterns that are black on clear would show your paint color underneath.
Aoshima makes engine turned metallic sheet in 1/32 and 1/24 scale .
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have to check it out!
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Can you not glue brush wire together and use a Dremel?
That might work in scale, I'll have to try it!
Look at fly fishing line . lead line .
I use guitar 🎸 wire
Garnet sand
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Have you tried oil paints to replicate woodgrain? Some aircraft builders of WW1 aircraft have a good trick for this
Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried it, and it was somewhat successful, but I like doing it digitally now!
Proper Scale Woodgrain Vaneer ? Is Doll House Grandfather Clock Woodworking Specialty Shops Have it
Push car for a Dragster!! Put a surfboard on the roof.
Fun vid to watch, but I'm still trying to glue wheels on straight and he's replicating 1/24 scale cloth wire and wood grain. My modeling goal for this year: gets parts to stick together!