As a nerd who subscribed to C/D at 11 years old and obsessively read every page for years and years, it's so nice to find a channel that pours that same snark, criticism, expertise, skill, and even reverence into the reviews. The "it looks cool so it is cool" channels are probably great for normies, but for a lot of us, cars mean a lot more than that. So uh. You do good videos is my point.
Yeah I feel you I subscribe to c/d, road&track , motor trend,truck trend and automobile magazines when I was 14 and still have all those in my storage I definitely understand
@@papa_pt Yeah he was an English major I think so he’s a well spoken douche. I think he is knowledgeable about cars but chooses snark instead of technical details.
@@GlennC789 yeah, and I can forgive it if it drives as nice as everyone says it does. But every time I look at a Cayman or Boxster I'd wish the Corvette's styling would be more... cohesive? (not sure what the right word is here)
It's an awesome car but I continue to think this looks like a half ass design that you'd see in a burnout game, especially with its jagged over-styled body lines.
For a reviewer who admits he wanted to hate the C8, it still impressed him. That in itself is a huge statement towards how good this thing is. Even the haters are disarmed. As for his dislike of the exterior design, all I can say after 4 months of driving mine - is that I have NEVER seen strangers flock to any other car for pictures - like with this C8. If I run errands, I can plan to be stopped by at least 4 friendly strangers who want to see it and talk about it. This thing helps restore my faith in humanity with all the great people we have since met. Two weeks ago we had 2 C8s in same parking lot as 5 late model Ferraris, 2 Lambo Huracans, a McLaren, and 2 Porsche 911s and a Cayman - and the C8s got ALL the love from passersby. If I had not witnessed it I wouldn't believe it. This thing is an incredible car and incredible value and not a surprise they are sold out for years out .
I had the same experience with my 1964 C2, in fact, at the last car show I had ten times the people looking at my red 64 convertible than the two new C8s next to me.
This is the first Corvette that I've ever wanted. I'm finally getting the "Every man's sports car" feels. They didn't have to give it insane super car styling, but they did. They didn't have to spend billions on the architecture, but they did. An interior that rivals their own Cadillacs? Sure why not. And the price doesn't balloon to comical levels with options like other brands. It'll get 30mpg as you're tooling down the highway and smoke 98% of the cars on the street from the light. I suddenly want to be a 36 year old retiree and drive this thing across the country. Can't golf worth shit though.
As a C8 Vert owner, my experience has been this: the car is extremely liveable, and comfortable for daily driving. I initially planned on continuing daily driving my Mustang GT, but after putting around 4k miles on my C8, my Mustang has been honestly collecting dust. It's so much more comfortable than that car, way more comfortable than my C5 was. It's hard to explain-- I can take corners at high speed and not feel like I'm going throw my tail and spin out. Some things I take issue with said in this video however: 1. Not a SINGLE passenger I've had has "bumped into the HVAC controls". I have no idea why you'd even imply this is possible. The controls are angled AWAY from passengers, meaning they'd have to deliberately try to press the buttons. Normal seating, they'd never even encounter such a problem. 2. Another thing is viewing the engine: name a hard top mid-engine vehicle that comes in a spyder/convertible config where you can still see the engine. Lol, that makes no sense. 3. And lastly, my car was $69,000 (and again, I have the convertible). That's because I went with the 1LT version of this car, which, after owning the C8 coupe 2LT (yes, I have two), I found the 1LT is a better deal for the money. The 2LT's wireless charging is weird because my phone doesn't fit with its case on (which is a case designed for wireless charging). It's way too thin. Also, the front lift was completely unnecessary, something my C5 would have KILLED for, because I scraped that sumbitch every damn day haha. So I definitely recommend the 1LT if you're going vert, because it comes with the rear-view mirror camera anyway, and is just the better deal. Oh and, body colored nacelles (which is what the car in this video has) is a HUGE no-no. Go for the carbon flash colored nacelles and thank me later.
I'm not typically the type to comment on how the sausage is made, but the editing is fantastic. Quality of production (and majestic Illinois landscapes) really sets this channel apart from all other automotive channels
@@krmnych_backlog Haha, that's a nope from me. The Straight Pipes are alright but not even close to SG's quality of content. The engineering nitty gritty and the emotion with which Mark and Jack talk about these cars is unlike any other. No other youtube car channel feels like my Dad is talking to me and teaching me about the featured automobiles. Don't get me wrong I like The Straight Pipes, Throttle House etc. but their content feels kinda shallow compared to this.
@@fuhrerhosty I hate Throttle House. The fact you would lump it together with The Straight Pipes, kings of CZcams chemistry, tells me all I need to know about your perception of anything
@@thisismagacountry1318 as a fellow Lexus owner, I can see you’re a man of sophisticated taste. However, you’ll be buying the last of its kind before Toyota and Lexus are forced to go “ all electric.” It’s coming and sooner than you think. Perhaps a Plaid Model S is in your future. Can’t wait till Mark gets his hands on one of those to test. It’ll be an epic glimpse into the future and the demise of Dino juice.
@@alexnutcasio936 Yeah, except the electric wannabes haven't figured out there will never be enough charging infrastructure except for a few cities and costs won't make them reasonable for the general populace. Listen to Red Barchetta by RUSH to get where I'm coming from,...with lyrics.
I think I represent the vast majority of C8 owners who will never track their cars. I love to death my Z51-HTC, driving fast when the opportunity presents itself, but even when just cruising on a 2 lane country road with the top down; I'm in heaven. I understand why you focused on the C8's track aspect, just remember, 99% of the drivers of both the C8 and its competition you mentioned will never track them. When the new track-focused C8 iterations arrive, I'll anxiously be awaiting your updated reviews.
See I want a C8 for that exact reason you described. I live in Switzerland which is a very road rule restrictive country, so I have to appreciate the cruise. And having a car that gives me some fun and excitement through it as well as cornering up the mountains, this car is it. They just have to start selling them here so we don't have to pay a stupid import tax 😅😂🇨🇭
Your 99% will never track this car makes the Z51 package stupid to buy. It offers you better brakes but only if you are tracking the car so that your brakes are overheating. It offers diff cooling which will never come up unless you track your car. It also offers you a summertime tire that must be replaced to drive it in the winter. If you never plan to track your car why pay for all of these extras? This car as a base model's performance is so over the head of 99% of its owners that the Z51 package becomes a phallic symbol.
This thing is a rear-end away from being my soulmate, no pun intended. Almost a perfect sports car. Oh and Sandy Munro is screaming at his monitor seeing all those bolts on the underside tunnel.
My jc penny Ralph Lauren belt is off and wrapped around my turgid varicose veined arm so I can properly take in a fat hit of Goose on this glorious morning of our lord. Just one more before I head out to the green Martha, I'm swinging for the farthest sand pits out of ego.
unlike the Ferrari, the corvette still has physical buttons so while the ferrari has its electronic doodads fail after a few months, the c8 will still work in 10 years
Same percentage of corvettes get on the track as range rovers that go mudding and rock crawling. FEW... Remember this is the car for insurance salesman and financial planners and wendys franchise owners...
I would have to disagree. In Texas at least, we have a very large group of folks doing HPDEs in vettes. Its about the same ratio as the Pcar guys. While most folks never get on track in any car, I would say that the percentage of track vs non-track vettes is about the same as track vs non-track pcars. But maybe that's different in your area.
I've seen a few of these on the road, and they looked pretty damn good. I didn't like the styling at first, but seeing these in real life was a far different experience. They certainly look way more exotic than anything GM has ever rolled out.
I agree. When I initially looked at pictures of it I didn't know what to think. I saw one recently as it rolled in to stop at a light, it looked pretty good. Love it or hate it, it's got street presence.
Just had the chance to spend some quality time in a Z51 C8. Frankly, I can’t see how GM can build this car for under $140k. Not just a bang for the buck thing, the entire engineering exercise is as good as it gets…no corners cut. Best surprise, it may be the best riding car I’ve experienced. Simply amazing. ZO6 will rock some worlds.
@@nvofevery1 I waited 18 months for my c8. I'm loving every drive every time after 5 months of ownership. Hope you get it when they said. Make plans for it to be delivered as a 24 model year. I would have changed a couple of things had I know my car was not being delivered as a 2022. Would rather have had the forged wheels for the same price as the carbon flash.
@@davidryder5082 yeah who knows when it’ll process. Should know build code on the 17th. Got the black 20 spoke forged wheels👌🏽 Slightly worried about the natural dipped glare but hopefully that’s overblown.
"This car looks like it is wearing a supercar bodykit." That sentence sums up my feelings on the exterior design. I don't hate it, and I don't love it. Major props to GM for shaking things up. They took an unnecessary risk and I think it paid off - big time. But I can't help but feel like this is just a first unfinished draft. Also, I suspect they knew they were going to come across as borderline sacrilegious when moving to this mid- platform, so they decided to pay homage to pedigree by trying to incorporate C 1-7 details. Those aren't Easter eggs. They're just goose eggs.
Dude, I feel the same exact way. It’s just not smooth. Looks like it’s made from Lego’s. From the profile, if you seriously blur your eyesight, it might resemble a Ferrari 458. The 458 has smooth lines and this vette has no smooth lines. But some areas are like the price, interior, and performance are spot on.
I wish car companies would go back to the days of styling from Italian design houses. This thing looks like just a set of chrome wheels away from the Boomer in New Balances crowd.
@@truantray Those Italian design houses are now designing overstyled Ferraris and Lambos, with the occasional model that looks just right. The Corvette is no worse than your average supercar, but it would have been better if it had incorporated more Corvette history and been less generically supercar. The side air intakes in particular are excessive, and likely unneeded for these lower-powered models.
@@markmiller3279 I think it is worse. It just looks awkward like the uncanny valley of a replica kit car. I think a slight drop and some wheels that sit more flush with the fenders would do wonders but of course they had to leave something on the table for the Z06 and other high performance models.
I've never been all that interested in the previous Corvette's, but this one is just beautiful, both inside and out. Plus, it's a lot more practical than any previous Corvette generation with good ergonomics, better driving dynamics that make this both a thrill to drive as well as a capable daily driver (based on what other reviewers have stated) and a relative bargain for what you get in return. Great review you guys.
@@markm0000 so? better than designs in the 60s-70s where there was no such weight savings... now its careful engineering and use only whats needed to achieve design intent and achieve longevity...
"The exterior...looks like its wearing a supercar body kit..." Yes! I'm less than two minutes in and you've already grabbed my attention. I completely agree with you that this is a car that will not age gracefully.
I think the silhouette, particularly from the side and front, looks fantastic. It comes down to the implementation of the rear, the side bulge, and the trim that's tricking people out. The interior might not age well, but I do like how NSX/ S2000 it is. Typing this comment actually made me realize how much I like the new NSX, even though I'd spend equivalent cash to get a first-gen instead.
Love the flat plane crank in my GT350. Respect to GM for bringing one to their Z06. Unfortunately due to chip shortage and greedy dealer mark-up your looking at 120k or more.
The new LM GT displacement rules pretty much forced their hand there. Otherwise they would still be thundering around tracks and taking trophies with that huge cross plane.
Thank you for reviewing this more as a GT car than a track focused weapon. I have been spending a lot of time trying to decide between a C8, and a used LC 500. This helps a lot!
The new C8, like most GM vehicles, looks like two different designers in two different areas of the design floor designed this vehicle without talking to each other. But it’s mid-engine and fast I guess…
It's all personal preference. It may look 5 times better to you and at first it did to me but now after that I own a C8 HTC the lack of rear spoiler looks plain Jane to me again beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
My brother-in-law bought the coupe, paid 96K for it. 245 miles into ownership, engine heaves its self and dies while driving on the PA turnpike, Chevy takes two months to replace, they offer a Blazer as a loaner. Car gets back on the road, six hundred miles later the car shuts down with an ECU failure, two more months in the shop, then a deer jumps out in front of him, back to the shop. He calls carvana, they cut him a check for 89 K, and buys a truck.
To be fair problems almost always arise on first year newly designed vehicles. It's best to get year two or later. However GM offering a POS Blazer as a loaner is unforgivable.
@@johannesvanhoek9080 You mean is comparable if not better.. especially this one vs the mclaren 570s. It has the same performance , good mid engine set up ( both dual clutch)and way better tech. Chevy has turned it from sport car to super car. Some ppl can't believe a corvette can now keep up or beat their exotics lol. oh well times have changed and I love it. Good job gm.
Top tier content as always. Glad to see you guys at over half a million subs now. I think you'll hit critical mass here soon and a million+ will arrive faster than 500K did.
When Mark is praising the car on street, he's praising the non-Z51 car (albeit w magna ride). When he's praising the car ON TRACK, he's praising the Z51 packaged car. And then when he's criticizing the car on track, he's criticizing the non-Z51 car. Mark doesn't do a good job of making that clear. Jack does a much better job of making that distinction clear. Good video overall.
This sums up most people's view on the C8: There are those who absolutely love it, and then there are those who really want to hate it, and try their best to nitpick, and spew supercar wannabe cliche's (But deep down know it's an awesome car, especially for the money).
Mark, you pretty much nailed it in your review. Interior is exceptionally designed and made. The rear exterior looks far better without the tacky spoiler, still too much going on in back. It also mirrors the McLaren models too much. It is not better than a Ferrari however, but certainly worth the price. I don't envy those who drive this however, so I suppose that says it all about how I feel about this new Corvette. (I have owned 3 Corvettes before, 1968, 1978 and 1979 models)
I agree the styling is way too busy and lacks finesse, but the base silhouette looks good. It just needs to be pulled back into the studio so they can substract some angles and lines. On the interior, more of the same but not as bad. That long strip of buttons is gonna cause grief for GM. Mechanically, I like what they have done.
Glad someone finally covered the braking issue more than a sentence. It matters if you rip on it daily. It doesn’t matter if you’re Jean shorted your way into the new balance cream cruise though . Wicked fast though . Good video
Seriously the best car review channel on CZcams. Bar none! To the point every time with some humor thrown in. Love the critical thoughts and the goodness the cinematography is off the charts!
Loved the comment, "your OLD C7 Corvette".... thinking, wow, my OOOOOLLLLLDDDD C4 Corvette sitting in my garage with the driver side headlamp removed while fixing the headlamp gear and upgrading to LED lights must be freaking ancient! Love your work guys, keep it up!
3 + years now and no problems. No engine heating issues. Trans is fine. No issues at all even on the forums. It’s reliable especially for I new design with proven engine . No negative issues. FPC engine is here but the low end grunt is missing. The Z51 as a DD is more fun on the street. Again it’s the lack of torque under 4500 rpms on the FPC. Z06. Plus the prices are much higher then originally claimed. C8 after 3 years and still no comparison for $76K. Darkhorse at $76K. Big and heavy car with no DCT.
Car reviewers love to talk about subtleties of handling balance, communicativeness of steering etc. Things which are drastically altered by alignment or tire swaps alone. If reviewers think a car you like understeers too much, add some negative camber up front. If they think it is numb, maybe a different tire, or different toe settings. Corvettes for over a decade have had an amazing level of suspension adjustment from the factory. Huge range of camber adjustment, ride height adjustable, you can corner balance it for your body weight, etc etc. However you want it to feel, you can make it feel that way.
@@quadrifoglio6058 You sort of set yourself up an impenetrable rhetorical claim there. I could list any particular exotic car I have driven and you could just say it isn't "properly" exotic. I'll have to get a session in with a T.50S Niki Lauda I guess to be sure I can win the internet here I guess.
I also don't like the looks of the C8, I think it looks like the front and back were designed by different people and the back looks like it's melting. I'm sure it could be improved in the aftermarket or by Chevy themselves with upcoming versions like the Z06 though
@@jackchurchill3777 I dunno, I think they already tried that with the C7. They already ditched the round taillights then, which pissed off the traditional customers. I think the rear end is the worst part of it.
Another outstanding review of an exceptional car. Now, if only GM would get off their duffs and invest in interior design/functionality for the rest of their offerings. C'mon GM, you can do it.
These are the toughest honest auto critics going...and they are the opposite of corvette fan boys. With that said, I was expecting the worst. Their review shows just how good this new generation corvette is. A truly magnificent platform not only for the money but at pretty much any price. As the engine and transmission options get even more aggressive, it will be fun to see what this car will do. I can't wait to see a 159k 1000+ HP Zora verses an any price anything else. As great as this C8 is, the best days for corvette are yet to come. If you have a C8, hold on to it with all you got. Only sell it or trade it for another C8. These will be the cars our great grand-children will talk about.
I had the pleasure of watching folks take delivery at the Covette museum in Bowling Green, KY recently. It's impressive in person. Something about the back end is off. My young son confused it for a Camero at first. Great review!
All this confirms to me is that my 2014 Stingray manual will never depreciate even if the United States lasts a thousand years. The C7 manual looks better and feels better; in a sports car those are two of the highest priorities.
Not having a rear spoiler doesn’t do the car any favors. Personally I bought a C8 HTC Z51. For me the engine isn’t much to look at anyway. The HTC is much more exotic looking and practical. Yea you can’t see the engine but it’s not much to look at. Maybe the Z06 engine will look better. Also I personally would rather pay the money for the Z51 performance upgrade than the upgraded interior packages. I can say this I’ve owned 8 Corvettes and this C8 is by far the best Corvette yet and the Z06 isn’t even out yet.
Love how you guys not only do great reviews but damn hilarious comments we are all thinking as you are !!!!! And I’ve got to say the launch system in this C8 non Z51 still violently launches throwing you back into your seat. I’ve seen real launches (Z51) 0-60 anywhere from 2.7 to 3.2 which for a new mid engine Corvette is absolutely amazing that I had to put my order in on a 2023 C8 fully loaded 3LT Z51 package. All the bells and whistles for MSRP. Looking to arrive 3-6 months as I was bumped to the front when an already convertible that was ordered was turned down as it was about to built. So now building my mini supercar? Exactly how I want it and it won’t be garage kept road-trips to come and videos to follow the experience as my girl and I travel the United States. Damn for Mark to sat “ Nothing else rivals this” is a great compliment to the engineers and designers who built this C8 Ford tough ………oh wait I meant Chevy tough bwhaaaaaaa!!!!!you need that 3LT Z51 for a real driving experience.
Keep in mind that this design is the first generation of a mid-engine car, whereas the C7 has 6 generations of Front-engine design behind it, the future generations of this car will look better and better as we progress.
And will cost more and more money, but this is a move to the Corvette brand competing with Porsche as an American alternative. Granted it is a very long way away but the amount of money Porsche makes is very alluring to GM. Also regardless of what many believe GM has the ability to build amazing cars if the finance team doesn't make them cost cut everything.
Absolutely a fantastic review. Your going in perspective is justified as GM has, sadly, earned its reputation. The fact that you are impressed is significant and I'm going to take a closer look; it's on my short list.
I argue that the *actual* buying demographic for this car and the LC 500 are very similar, looking for a fun GT car that has the drama and theater. As mentioned in the video, the performance you get at the price point blows the LC 500 out of the water. That paired with the "this is an AMERICAN car" makes it an easier sell than the Lexus.
Great review, I want to hear about my worries during a review....the small nagging issues, like the buttons, the seats, the leather, the squeaks and rattles. Thank you for talking about these kind of things....99% of us are not going to the track with our cars, we want to know about reliability, quality and the total experience not just the 0-60.
I've always thought: how did GM put the best interior they've ever designed in the most awkward looking tryin-to-be-a supercar body they've ever designed? "Kit car" body is right. As much a marvel as this car is, its styling pushes me towards more expensive mid-engined cars because they simply look better.
GM employee: Ugh, does the interior REALLY have to be good? It can't be made out of horse manure and toe nails like every other GM so we can save money? Okay (takes deep breath).
I don’t really like the rear. However the front and side profile are great. Plus having a trunk in the back surely will be useful. I can’t wait for the z06 to come out
We saw one on the road that was red and my friend was completely adamant that it was a Ferrari. Had I not seen the .plethora. of Savagegeese videos I would have believed him
They keep talking about $80K, but almost none of these cars were able to be purchased for that amount of money. You couldn’t sniff that for under $100K in 2021. And gals from Applebees don’t care about track options. Duh.
Personally, I wish that the body design had been more of an evolution of the C7, but I can understand that changing the entire architecture of the drivetrain probably precluded them from doing so.
I think the body looks like a good fusion between a C7 design and C2 body lines, all the way until you get to that rear, talk about design by committee. I wish they had kept with the circle taillights.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love it. IMO its the best looking modern gen Corvette. The performance is amazing and the price is far better than its competitors. Coup or convertible, this is an American car I'd be Very proud to own. If I could only afford one....... My problem not GM.
I think GM did a damn good job, look at it this way, I don't have to pay 150,000 to $300,000 for a sports car. I have a C5, C6, C7, and I am going to buy a C 8. as a navy vet, I will also buy a corvette. I would love to buy be a 1972 Corvette
Respectfully disagree with Goose on the exterior styling. The old styling was/is great, but I like the new look as well. It's also the first Corvette where the interior is a real highlight. One thing it DOES carry over from previous Corvette models: amazing bang for your buck. It only looks bad when it's compared to cars that cost 10k-30k more
You guys are the best blend of serious, in depth technical info and humor. Please never stop, this is the quality we all need.
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Bring back turboski
Agreed. Nobody does it like they do
Been a fan since the zl1 1le review. These guys don’t half ass anything.
@@raymonds7492 It's like a quality produced TV Show.
As a nerd who subscribed to C/D at 11 years old and obsessively read every page for years and years, it's so nice to find a channel that pours that same snark, criticism, expertise, skill, and even reverence into the reviews. The "it looks cool so it is cool" channels are probably great for normies, but for a lot of us, cars mean a lot more than that. So uh. You do good videos is my point.
Do you watch RCR?
what do you think about throttle house then?
Yeah I feel you I subscribe to c/d, road&track , motor trend,truck trend and automobile magazines when I was 14 and still have all those in my storage I definitely understand
@@raymonds7492 he's edgy just for the sake of snarky hipsterdom and can't really drive . Some of the takes are funny tho 😂
@@papa_pt Yeah he was an English major I think so he’s a well spoken douche. I think he is knowledgeable about cars but chooses snark instead of technical details.
*Goes over interior impressions while “It’s Raining Men” is paused on the infotainment*
- savagegeese
this is why I love this channel 😂
Me too they always pick the best songs to display in every video. I’m 🤣 💀
i dont get it why is this funny again? that song sucks
It's rainin' stuff
Hallelujah
It's rainin' things
@@brandonobaza8610 Man, I miss Patrice!
I have never even driven one, but just wondering…why not the body color top and nacelles?
“It looks like it’s wearing a supercar bodykit.”
Those are the words I’ve been looking for to describe how I feel about this car’s styling.
Yes
They should have toned it way down and smoothed out the sharp lines for the base model.
@@GlennC789 yeah, and I can forgive it if it drives as nice as everyone says it does. But every time I look at a Cayman or Boxster I'd wish the Corvette's styling would be more... cohesive? (not sure what the right word is here)
It's an awesome car but I continue to think this looks like a half ass design that you'd see in a burnout game, especially with its jagged over-styled body lines.
100% agreed! I couldn't quite put my finger on it until now.
I'm 50, and owning this car and having a GF that bartends at Applebees is my current life goal. LOL
I wish you luck on that
Could be MUCH worse haha
you go girl
Plenty of women looking for sugar daddies out there.
RIP
For a reviewer who admits he wanted to hate the C8, it still impressed him. That in itself is a huge statement towards how good this thing is. Even the haters are disarmed. As for his dislike of the exterior design, all I can say after 4 months of driving mine - is that I have NEVER seen strangers flock to any other car for pictures - like with this C8. If I run errands, I can plan to be stopped by at least 4 friendly strangers who want to see it and talk about it. This thing helps restore my faith in humanity with all the great people we have since met. Two weeks ago we had 2 C8s in same parking lot as 5 late model Ferraris, 2 Lambo Huracans, a McLaren, and 2 Porsche 911s and a Cayman - and the C8s got ALL the love from passersby. If I had not witnessed it I wouldn't believe it. This thing is an incredible car and incredible value and not a surprise they are sold out for years out .
I had the same experience with my 1964 C2, in fact, at the last car show I had ten times the people looking at my red 64 convertible than the two new C8s next to me.
That PSA test was so unexpected that it genuinely caught me off guard and had me laughing like a hyena. Your content never fails to impress.
Nice DRIVECLUB profile pic
This is the first Corvette that I've ever wanted. I'm finally getting the "Every man's sports car" feels. They didn't have to give it insane super car styling, but they did. They didn't have to spend billions on the architecture, but they did. An interior that rivals their own Cadillacs? Sure why not. And the price doesn't balloon to comical levels with options like other brands. It'll get 30mpg as you're tooling down the highway and smoke 98% of the cars on the street from the light. I suddenly want to be a 36 year old retiree and drive this thing across the country.
Can't golf worth shit though.
Amen
Epic comment
You've really never wanted a '67 Sting Ray??
Well said.
Who the hell retires at 36??
As a C8 Vert owner, my experience has been this: the car is extremely liveable, and comfortable for daily driving. I initially planned on continuing daily driving my Mustang GT, but after putting around 4k miles on my C8, my Mustang has been honestly collecting dust. It's so much more comfortable than that car, way more comfortable than my C5 was. It's hard to explain-- I can take corners at high speed and not feel like I'm going throw my tail and spin out.
Some things I take issue with said in this video however:
1. Not a SINGLE passenger I've had has "bumped into the HVAC controls". I have no idea why you'd even imply this is possible. The controls are angled AWAY from passengers, meaning they'd have to deliberately try to press the buttons. Normal seating, they'd never even encounter such a problem.
2. Another thing is viewing the engine: name a hard top mid-engine vehicle that comes in a spyder/convertible config where you can still see the engine. Lol, that makes no sense.
3. And lastly, my car was $69,000 (and again, I have the convertible). That's because I went with the 1LT version of this car, which, after owning the C8 coupe 2LT (yes, I have two), I found the 1LT is a better deal for the money. The 2LT's wireless charging is weird because my phone doesn't fit with its case on (which is a case designed for wireless charging). It's way too thin. Also, the front lift was completely unnecessary, something my C5 would have KILLED for, because I scraped that sumbitch every damn day haha. So I definitely recommend the 1LT if you're going vert, because it comes with the rear-view mirror camera anyway, and is just the better deal.
Oh and, body colored nacelles (which is what the car in this video has) is a HUGE no-no. Go for the carbon flash colored nacelles and thank me later.
Also, at 14:35 you say you’re in the convertible but you’re clearly in the coupe 😂
Ferrari 360 spider, but that's the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
@@darrenlawson4909 isn’t that a rag-top though? C8 is hard top.
@@Th3Birdman not just a rag top, it's a RAG top because the top is raggedy.
@@darrenlawson4909 🤣🤣
I'm not typically the type to comment on how the sausage is made, but the editing is fantastic. Quality of production (and majestic Illinois landscapes) really sets this channel apart from all other automotive channels
This channel is awesome at that, but The Straight Pipes is at least on par.
@@krmnych_backlog Haha, that's a nope from me. The Straight Pipes are alright but not even close to SG's quality of content. The engineering nitty gritty and the emotion with which Mark and Jack talk about these cars is unlike any other. No other youtube car channel feels like my Dad is talking to me and teaching me about the featured automobiles. Don't get me wrong I like The Straight Pipes, Throttle House etc. but their content feels kinda shallow compared to this.
@@fuhrerhosty I hate Throttle House. The fact you would lump it together with The Straight Pipes, kings of CZcams chemistry, tells me all I need to know about your perception of anything
Agree except as someone who also lives in Chicagoland, “Majestic Illinois Landscape” is laugh out loud funny.
@@krmnych_backlog I literally forgot Throttle House and The Straight Pipes were different shows.
Can’t wait to see all the seniors driving this around downtown at max 30 mph.
You'll get there,...someday,...if you're lucky.
Brush your teeth is my best advice as a Boomer.
You'll thank me in 30 years.
@@thisismagacountry1318 he’s not wrong though……….midlife crisis coupe.
@@alexnutcasio936 Nope, IS 500 for me.
@@thisismagacountry1318 as a fellow Lexus owner, I can see you’re a man of sophisticated taste. However, you’ll be buying the last of its kind before Toyota and Lexus are forced to go “ all electric.” It’s coming and sooner than you think. Perhaps a Plaid Model S is in your future. Can’t wait till Mark gets his hands on one of those to test. It’ll be an epic glimpse into the future and the demise of Dino juice.
@@alexnutcasio936 Yeah, except the electric wannabes haven't figured out there will never be enough charging infrastructure except for a few cities and costs won't make them reasonable for the general populace.
Listen to Red Barchetta by RUSH to get where I'm coming from,...with lyrics.
I think I represent the vast majority of C8 owners who will never track their cars. I love to death my Z51-HTC, driving fast when the opportunity presents itself, but even when just cruising on a 2 lane country road with the top down; I'm in heaven. I understand why you focused on the C8's track aspect, just remember, 99% of the drivers of both the C8 and its competition you mentioned will never track them. When the new track-focused C8 iterations arrive, I'll anxiously be awaiting your updated reviews.
See I want a C8 for that exact reason you described. I live in Switzerland which is a very road rule restrictive country, so I have to appreciate the cruise. And having a car that gives me some fun and excitement through it as well as cornering up the mountains, this car is it. They just have to start selling them here so we don't have to pay a stupid import tax 😅😂🇨🇭
Your 99% will never track this car makes the Z51 package stupid to buy. It offers you better brakes but only if you are tracking the car so that your brakes are overheating. It offers diff cooling which will never come up unless you track your car. It also offers you a summertime tire that must be replaced to drive it in the winter. If you never plan to track your car why pay for all of these extras? This car as a base model's performance is so over the head of 99% of its owners that the Z51 package becomes a phallic symbol.
The cinematography has really reached an impressive level. 👍 Big fan.
This thing is a rear-end away from being my soulmate, no pun intended. Almost a perfect sports car. Oh and Sandy Munro is screaming at his monitor seeing all those bolts on the underside tunnel.
Your soul mate Is not a GM product. You are better than that and you deserve more.
Sandy Munro just likes to make cars as cheaply as possible.
To me a perfect sports car has to have a manual. The s2000 comes to mind
@@juanordonezgalban2278 Most fun I have ever had In a car = S2000
i agree, something about the back of the car that looks off and doesn't flow with the rest of the car when i see it in person
My jc penny Ralph Lauren belt is off and wrapped around my turgid varicose veined arm so I can properly take in a fat hit of Goose on this glorious morning of our lord.
Just one more before I head out to the green Martha, I'm swinging for the farthest sand pits out of ego.
Oh my god dude that channel banner is tempting me to lapse my beta male nofap challenge.
@@markm0000 stay strong king
My eyes still hurt after seeing the latest Ferrari's interior. GM killed it with this Vette, at least from that perspective.
Maybe you should get your eyes checked? The Vette interior is claustrophobic af.
unlike the Ferrari, the corvette still has physical buttons
so while the ferrari has its electronic doodads fail after a few months, the c8 will still work in 10 years
Using capacitive touch for an engine start button will never make sense to me. Just imagine how unsatisfying it would be to use.
@@memememine1 bunch of modern engineers growing up with iphones.
@@KidSnatchhy I grew up with an iPhone. Had one since the 5th grade. I still don't like it.
Same percentage of corvettes get on the track as range rovers that go mudding and rock crawling. FEW...
Remember this is the car for insurance salesman and financial planners and wendys franchise owners...
I would have to disagree. In Texas at least, we have a very large group of folks doing HPDEs in vettes. Its about the same ratio as the Pcar guys. While most folks never get on track in any car, I would say that the percentage of track vs non-track vettes is about the same as track vs non-track pcars. But maybe that's different in your area.
I'd have to disagree.
Or middle aged creepers…
@@AnalogDave I bet your area just has way more track users than average
I’d say 1 out of every 500 sold Ever see the Track! Then again I’m in Florida! Lol
I've seen a few of these on the road, and they looked pretty damn good. I didn't like the styling at first, but seeing these in real life was a far different experience. They certainly look way more exotic than anything GM has ever rolled out.
I agree. When I initially looked at pictures of it I didn't know what to think. I saw one recently as it rolled in to stop at a light, it looked pretty good. Love it or hate it, it's got street presence.
14:12 - I love how you guys finish each others sentences. So cute! Another amazing video
Fools in love
Are there any creatures more pathetic
Fools in love
Never knowing when they've lost the game
Sandwiches- that's what I was gonna say!
He said “alimony blue” lmao
Well it ll get u divorced
Just had the chance to spend some quality time in a Z51 C8. Frankly, I can’t see how GM can build this car for under $140k. Not just a bang for the buck thing, the entire engineering exercise is as good as it gets…no corners cut. Best surprise, it may be the best riding car I’ve experienced. Simply amazing. ZO6 will rock some worlds.
Just ordered the C8 Z51 convertible. Can’t wait but going to be a long 3-4 months 😔
@@nvofevery1 I waited 18 months for my c8. I'm loving every drive every time after 5 months of ownership. Hope you get it when they said. Make plans for it to be delivered as a 24 model year. I would have changed a couple of things had I know my car was not being delivered as a 2022. Would rather have had the forged wheels for the same price as the carbon flash.
@@davidryder5082 yeah who knows when it’ll process. Should know build code on the 17th. Got the black 20 spoke forged wheels👌🏽 Slightly worried about the natural dipped glare but hopefully that’s overblown.
throttle house had a similar experience, first car had terminal understeer in their words, next one they drove was better. huge fans of both channels!
Great review giving both pros and cons and impressive to hear you acknowledge your biases. Most people won't do that.
Agreed👌🏼
"This car looks like it is wearing a supercar bodykit."
That sentence sums up my feelings on the exterior design. I don't hate it, and I don't love it. Major props to GM for shaking things up. They took an unnecessary risk and I think it paid off - big time. But I can't help but feel like this is just a first unfinished draft. Also, I suspect they knew they were going to come across as borderline sacrilegious when moving to this mid- platform, so they decided to pay homage to pedigree by trying to incorporate C 1-7 details. Those aren't Easter eggs. They're just goose eggs.
Dude, I feel the same exact way. It’s just not smooth. Looks like it’s made from Lego’s. From the profile, if you seriously blur your eyesight, it might resemble a Ferrari 458. The 458 has smooth lines and this vette has no smooth lines. But some areas are like the price, interior, and performance are spot on.
I was hyped when i saw the pictures. Got to see one in showroom and I was meh. Interior is amazing, but outside meh.
I wish car companies would go back to the days of styling from Italian design houses. This thing looks like just a set of chrome wheels away from the Boomer in New Balances crowd.
@@truantray Those Italian design houses are now designing overstyled Ferraris and Lambos, with the occasional model that looks just right. The Corvette is no worse than your average supercar, but it would have been better if it had incorporated more Corvette history and been less generically supercar. The side air intakes in particular are excessive, and likely unneeded for these lower-powered models.
@@markmiller3279 I think it is worse. It just looks awkward like the uncanny valley of a replica kit car. I think a slight drop and some wheels that sit more flush with the fenders would do wonders but of course they had to leave something on the table for the Z06 and other high performance models.
Wow the intro music and production is excellent - nice work everyone at SG
Any ideas on what the title is and the artist?
@@eliXerxes Finally found it! It's "Oh My Love" by Sleepaway Camp
@@michaelw2263 Thanks bruv, I appreciate that.
I actually laughed out loud at the title when this hit my inbox.
Listening to the C8 engine through my Honda Fit speakers is a surreal experience
I've never been all that interested in the previous Corvette's, but this one is just beautiful, both inside and out. Plus, it's a lot more practical than any previous Corvette generation with good ergonomics, better driving dynamics that make this both a thrill to drive as well as a capable daily driver (based on what other reviewers have stated) and a relative bargain for what you get in return. Great review you guys.
"Door Cards"-- Jack has CORRUPTED your soul, Mark.
Door Liner is the correct Auto industry term
Once you take apart a car you realize it’s mostly fluff, plastic, and chromed plastic.
@@markm0000 so? better than designs in the 60s-70s where there was no such weight savings... now its careful engineering and use only whats needed to achieve design intent and achieve longevity...
@@SantanKGhey1234 right "longevity" in modern automobiles
@@SantanKGhey1234 Going to have to disagree with you there. Didn't get higher quality after about the late 50s.
"The exterior...looks like its wearing a supercar body kit..." Yes! I'm less than two minutes in and you've already grabbed my attention. I completely agree with you that this is a car that will not age gracefully.
I think the silhouette, particularly from the side and front, looks fantastic. It comes down to the implementation of the rear, the side bulge, and the trim that's tricking people out. The interior might not age well, but I do like how NSX/ S2000 it is. Typing this comment actually made me realize how much I like the new NSX, even though I'd spend equivalent cash to get a first-gen instead.
@@TFT-bp8zk perhaps they should make a 4 cyl turbo version and call it the Fiero, seems like a GM thing to do...😉
Love the flat plane crank in my GT350. Respect to GM for bringing one to their Z06. Unfortunately due to chip shortage and greedy dealer mark-up your looking at 120k or more.
If you don't mind waiting a lot of dealers are selling them and msrp for a preorder, it's just going to be a long wait 😔😔😔
I love the flat-plane crank in my Lingenfelter C5
The new LM GT displacement rules pretty much forced their hand there. Otherwise they would still be thundering around tracks and taking trophies with that huge cross plane.
...and 5 years from now, no one will care if you overpaid $40K during the pandemic. C8s are the toilet paper of the future.
@@anydaynow01 it's a BOP series, so it really doesn't matter what motor they use. Racing is really not relevant to road cars any more.
Thank you for reviewing this more as a GT car than a track focused weapon.
I have been spending a lot of time trying to decide between a C8, and a used LC 500. This helps a lot!
So both?
LC500 > C8. Lexus quality over GM
@@RandomlnternetGuy C8 > LC500. GM performance over Lexus.
Wow what a tough choice rich white guy problems huh?
Buy a c7 that’s what I did.
Have to agree, the car itself does not look good in certain angles.. especially that horrible squared off rear end and square tailpipes.
Too many moneysponge squarepants are running human society.
A rear refresh and 50hp more is all that needs done for mid cycle.
Huracan has square rear
@@grahamstefaan No, it does not need 50hp.
And the excessive creases on the hood.
The new C8, like most GM vehicles, looks like two different designers in two different areas of the design floor designed this vehicle without talking to each other. But it’s mid-engine and fast I guess…
….the lack of rear spoiler makes this thing look 5 times better 👌🏽👌🏽
That's true of almost every car. I really thought by 2021 those stupid wings and carbon accents would just be for Pep boys jokes.
It's all personal preference. It may look 5 times better to you and at first it did to me but now after that I own a C8 HTC the lack of rear spoiler looks plain Jane to me again beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
“Stick shifts and safety belts” now stuck in my head. Thanks
bucket seats have all got to go
My brother-in-law bought the coupe, paid 96K for it. 245 miles into ownership, engine heaves its self and dies while driving on the PA turnpike, Chevy takes two months to replace, they offer a Blazer as a loaner. Car gets back on the road, six hundred miles later the car shuts down with an ECU failure, two more months in the shop, then a deer jumps out in front of him, back to the shop. He calls carvana, they cut him a check for 89 K, and buys a truck.
Nice, love hearing it when rich people are inconvenienced.
To be fair problems almost always arise on first year newly designed vehicles. It's best to get year two or later. However GM offering a POS Blazer as a loaner is unforgivable.
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@@timothycc711 he actually likes the truck. No idea why he bought it, the Blazer on the other hand…….
Ahh Chevy, king of making lemons.
Aging corvettes is the leading cause of prostate issues in middle America
Yeah my uncle got leafspringitis from his c6. Happened as soon as the c8s hit dealers.
I don't love it, but can't deny its cool and has great performance. I agree with the body kit comments.
The C7 still looks really good ❤️
The C7 is a Corvette, the C8 is a McLaren wannabe ,
In my opinion !
@@johannesvanhoek9080 You mean is comparable if not better.. especially this one vs the mclaren 570s. It has the same performance , good mid engine set up ( both dual clutch)and way better tech. Chevy has turned it from sport car to super car. Some ppl can't believe a corvette can now keep up or beat their exotics lol. oh well times have changed and I love it. Good job gm.
Intro song: "Oh My Love" - Sleepaway Camp
That was Heroic! Thank you bruv.
The choice of intro music is always so damn on point on this channel.
Top tier content as always. Glad to see you guys at over half a million subs now. I think you'll hit critical mass here soon and a million+ will arrive faster than 500K did.
I spat milk when he said “Speed this up, I need to pick up my girlfriend from Applebee’s.”
shes trashed off dollar margaritas
Me too ....and I wasn't even drinking milk at the time....
When Mark is praising the car on street, he's praising the non-Z51 car (albeit w magna ride). When he's praising the car ON TRACK, he's praising the Z51 packaged car. And then when he's criticizing the car on track, he's criticizing the non-Z51 car. Mark doesn't do a good job of making that clear.
Jack does a much better job of making that distinction clear. Good video overall.
These videos just keep getting better and better 👌🏻 too content
Mark recording his own intro music shows how far this channel has come
This sums up most people's view on the C8: There are those who absolutely love it, and then there are those who really want to hate it, and try their best to nitpick, and spew supercar wannabe cliche's (But deep down know it's an awesome car, especially for the money).
Mark, you pretty much nailed it in your review. Interior is exceptionally designed and made. The rear exterior looks far better without the tacky spoiler, still too much going on in back. It also mirrors the McLaren models too much. It is not better than a Ferrari however, but certainly worth the price. I don't envy those who drive this however, so I suppose that says it all about how I feel about this new Corvette. (I have owned 3 Corvettes before, 1968, 1978 and 1979 models)
More I see the c8 corvette more I appreciate the c7 corvette
Lol same.
Still the most underrated channel in all YT
I hope you get royalties for the constant free Cake advertising.
“Do me a favor, speed this up, bcuz I gotta go pick up my girlfriend from Applebee’s”
I lol’d
GM's saving grace. I bet Acura felt a little ashamed of the NSX after seeing this.
I agree the styling is way too busy and lacks finesse, but the base silhouette looks good. It just needs to be pulled back into the studio so they can substract some angles and lines. On the interior, more of the same but not as bad. That long strip of buttons is gonna cause grief for GM. Mechanically, I like what they have done.
Glad someone finally covered the braking issue more than a sentence. It matters if you rip on it daily. It doesn’t matter if you’re Jean shorted your way into the new balance cream cruise though . Wicked fast though . Good video
Seriously the best car review channel on CZcams. Bar none! To the point every time with some humor thrown in. Love the critical thoughts and the goodness the cinematography is off the charts!
I’ll take the C7 all day!
Only if u are a mechanic
Loved the comment, "your OLD C7 Corvette".... thinking, wow, my OOOOOLLLLLDDDD C4 Corvette sitting in my garage with the driver side headlamp removed while fixing the headlamp gear and upgrading to LED lights must be freaking ancient! Love your work guys, keep it up!
3 + years now and no problems. No engine heating issues. Trans is fine. No issues at all even on the forums. It’s reliable especially for I new design with proven engine . No negative issues. FPC engine is here but the low end grunt is missing. The Z51 as a DD is more fun on the street. Again it’s the lack of torque under 4500 rpms on the FPC. Z06. Plus the prices are much higher then originally claimed. C8 after 3 years and still no comparison for $76K. Darkhorse at $76K. Big and heavy car with no DCT.
Dear God Jack!
PLEASE stop saying "Very unique".
NOTHING is 'very' unique; just unique.
Lensman, I told you what happens when you stay up past 8:00pm young man!
You’re being very pedantic.☺️
That's not very unique of you baby
Very observant of you
They reaaaaaaaaally need to do something about that rear-end!
Great video and no potty break needed! Way to go!
Car reviewers love to talk about subtleties of handling balance, communicativeness of steering etc. Things which are drastically altered by alignment or tire swaps alone. If reviewers think a car you like understeers too much, add some negative camber up front. If they think it is numb, maybe a different tire, or different toe settings. Corvettes for over a decade have had an amazing level of suspension adjustment from the factory. Huge range of camber adjustment, ride height adjustable, you can corner balance it for your body weight, etc etc. However you want it to feel, you can make it feel that way.
nope sorry, you clearly haven't driven a proper exotic.
@@quadrifoglio6058 You sort of set yourself up an impenetrable rhetorical claim there. I could list any particular exotic car I have driven and you could just say it isn't "properly" exotic. I'll have to get a session in with a T.50S Niki Lauda I guess to be sure I can win the internet here I guess.
I think the C7 looks and sounds better. But the interior of the C8 is leagues better than the C7.
100% agreed. Not a fan of the C8's front end. The C7 is just flows so well to me.
You have to give the C8 some leniency, it's the first generation of a brand new design, whereas the C7 has 60 years of design behind it.
I also don't like the looks of the C8, I think it looks like the front and back were designed by different people and the back looks like it's melting. I'm sure it could be improved in the aftermarket or by Chevy themselves with upcoming versions like the Z06 though
C8 is the consequence of the influence of a generation that has never driven a corvette before
@@jackchurchill3777 I dunno, I think they already tried that with the C7. They already ditched the round taillights then, which pissed off the traditional customers. I think the rear end is the worst part of it.
it's nice to see a skeptic won over from time to time :)
Whoa! You have 1/2 million subs. CONGRATS!!! I swear last week you had 495K Way to go.
The closing music is always perfect.
White seats look good on camera but for everything else, it's just a skid mark waiting to happen. You can't even get arby's in this.
I cant eat my spaghetti and meatballs in this thing.
Another outstanding review of an exceptional car. Now, if only GM would get off their duffs and invest in interior design/functionality for the rest of their offerings.
C'mon GM, you can do it.
GM slowly turning into CM
CHINA MOTORS. 😕
Well they finally made the Escalade nice so hopefully a trend is starting.
after the bailout, GM should just commit mass suicide and save everybody some money. They're like every single sports team in Detroit
@@pontiacGXPfan Part of me wanted to let them burn in 2008 but I did make good money off their stocks in 2010.
These are the toughest honest auto critics going...and they are the opposite of corvette fan boys. With that said, I was expecting the worst. Their review shows just how good this new generation corvette is. A truly magnificent platform not only for the money but at pretty much any price. As the engine and transmission options get even more aggressive, it will be fun to see what this car will do. I can't wait to see a 159k 1000+ HP Zora verses an any price anything else. As great as this C8 is, the best days for corvette are yet to come. If you have a C8, hold on to it with all you got. Only sell it or trade it for another C8. These will be the cars our great grand-children will talk about.
I had the pleasure of watching folks take delivery at the Covette museum in Bowling Green, KY recently. It's impressive in person. Something about the back end is off. My young son confused it for a Camero at first. Great review!
*camaro
2:12 Nice song choice, fellas. xD
All this confirms to me is that my 2014 Stingray manual will never depreciate even if the United States lasts a thousand years. The C7 manual looks better and feels better; in a sports car those are two of the highest priorities.
Yeah, I agree with this 100%
They way things are going, your Stingray will outlast the "United" states.
Not having a rear spoiler doesn’t do the car any favors. Personally I bought a C8 HTC Z51. For me the engine isn’t much to look at anyway. The HTC is much more exotic looking and practical. Yea you can’t see the engine but it’s not much to look at. Maybe the Z06 engine will look better. Also I personally would rather pay the money for the Z51 performance upgrade than the upgraded interior packages. I can say this I’ve owned 8 Corvettes and this C8 is by far the best Corvette yet and the Z06 isn’t even out yet.
Love how you guys not only do great reviews but damn hilarious comments we are all thinking as you are !!!!! And I’ve got to say the launch system in this C8 non Z51 still violently launches throwing you back into your seat. I’ve seen real launches (Z51) 0-60 anywhere from 2.7 to 3.2 which for a new mid engine Corvette is absolutely amazing that I had to put my order in on a 2023 C8 fully loaded 3LT Z51 package. All the bells and whistles for MSRP. Looking to arrive 3-6 months as I was bumped to the front when an already convertible that was ordered was turned down as it was about to built. So now building my mini supercar? Exactly how I want it and it won’t be garage kept road-trips to come and videos to follow the experience as my girl and I travel the United States. Damn for Mark to sat “ Nothing else rivals this” is a great compliment to the engineers and designers who built this C8 Ford tough ………oh wait I meant Chevy tough bwhaaaaaaa!!!!!you need that 3LT Z51 for a real driving experience.
How is it?
As a South Carolinian I approve of Mark’s cap.
I wasn't born there but I am grateful for the 31+ years I spent in SC.
I had a jaguar F type R for a couple years...great car...great sound...just traded it in for a C8...looks great..mid engine....very excited
A+ cinematography
Keep in mind that this design is the first generation of a mid-engine car, whereas the C7 has 6 generations of Front-engine design behind it, the future generations of this car will look better and better as we progress.
And will cost more and more money, but this is a move to the Corvette brand competing with Porsche as an American alternative. Granted it is a very long way away but the amount of money Porsche makes is very alluring to GM.
Also regardless of what many believe GM has the ability to build amazing cars if the finance team doesn't make them cost cut everything.
@@twhalen , don't question Crusty, he has a crystal ball, or blinders, one of the other.
@@misternordberg3675 all of the above.
@@twhalen there are numbers between 1 and 6 however.
Please remember Ferrari switches were melting and getting sticky after a year or so. So obviously you know very little
The youtuber with the best B roll music in DA LEAGUE
What I really like is the cost of service. My Ferrari's oil change is close to $600. The Chevy LS can probably be done at Econo Lube and Tune for $40.
Absolutely a fantastic review. Your going in perspective is justified as GM has, sadly, earned its reputation.
The fact that you are impressed is significant and I'm going to take a closer look; it's on my short list.
I argue that the *actual* buying demographic for this car and the LC 500 are very similar, looking for a fun GT car that has the drama and theater. As mentioned in the video, the performance you get at the price point blows the LC 500 out of the water. That paired with the "this is an AMERICAN car" makes it an easier sell than the Lexus.
Great review, I want to hear about my worries during a review....the small nagging issues, like the buttons, the seats, the leather, the squeaks and rattles. Thank you for talking about these kind of things....99% of us are not going to the track with our cars, we want to know about reliability, quality and the total experience not just the 0-60.
3:22... "It's Raining Men"....I'm dying... :)
I've always thought: how did GM put the best interior they've ever designed in the most awkward looking tryin-to-be-a supercar body they've ever designed? "Kit car" body is right. As much a marvel as this car is, its styling pushes me towards more expensive mid-engined cars because they simply look better.
Same. I recognize it as a great engineering achievement and I love the fact it still has a N/A V-8. I just do not like how it looks!
"kit car" is the first thing I thought when I saw one live, how and why did they do that? What was compromised?
@@mofayer GM always sacrifices quality first
GM employee: Ugh, does the interior REALLY have to be good? It can't be made out of horse manure and toe nails like every other GM so we can save money? Okay (takes deep breath).
I don’t really like the rear. However the front and side profile are great. Plus having a trunk in the back surely will be useful. I can’t wait for the z06 to come out
I was sold on the driver's side - centric seating area. Absolutely fantastic 😄.
We saw one on the road that was red and my friend was completely adamant that it was a Ferrari.
Had I not seen the
.plethora.
of Savagegeese videos I would have believed him
It's a gorgeous and capable car, GM really knocked it out of the park.
@@jackchurchill3777 agree to disagree
Most people that are adamant about anything are wrong. Good life lesson.
@@misternordberg3675 love that!
...the bowtie is a bit of a giveaway...even to non enthusiasts...
How the hell did you guys comment 23 hours ago but this video has been up for 1 minute???
Time travelers
I think their Patreons get access first.
YUUUGGGEEE congrats on 500k!
They keep talking about $80K, but almost none of these cars were able to be purchased for that amount of money. You couldn’t sniff that for under $100K in 2021. And gals from Applebees don’t care about track options. Duh.
Personally, I wish that the body design had been more of an evolution of the C7, but I can understand that changing the entire architecture of the drivetrain probably precluded them from doing so.
I think the body looks like a good fusion between a C7 design and C2 body lines, all the way until you get to that rear, talk about design by committee. I wish they had kept with the circle taillights.
Just think the C7 was suppose to be mid engined and I would have one instead of waiting
@@anydaynow01 you're right, the circle taillights are iconic, these new camaroseque/lamboesque taillights designs look a bit to much in my opinon.
I like the 2005 corvette interior because it reminds me of a cavalier.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love it. IMO its the best looking modern gen Corvette. The performance is amazing and the price is far better than its competitors. Coup or convertible, this is an American car I'd be Very proud to own. If I could only afford one....... My problem not GM.
I think GM did a damn good job, look at it this way, I don't have to pay 150,000 to $300,000 for a sports car. I have a C5, C6, C7, and I am going to buy a C 8. as a navy vet, I will also buy a corvette. I would love to buy be a 1972 Corvette
Respectfully disagree with Goose on the exterior styling. The old styling was/is great, but I like the new look as well. It's also the first Corvette where the interior is a real highlight. One thing it DOES carry over from previous Corvette models: amazing bang for your buck. It only looks bad when it's compared to cars that cost 10k-30k more