Ferrari 458 Italia | Best Car for Teenagers

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  • čas přidán 21. 06. 2024
  • We review the Ferrari 458 Italia Supercar to determine if the nearly $200,000 price tag is worth it. We discuss all of the technical info, good and bad, and argue whether the excitement and badge make up for the high risks of used Ferrari ownership. With 562HP it's more than enough to get wild, but with cars like the Porsche GT3, Mercedes AMG GT, Corvette C8, and Shelby Mustang GT500 this may be a tough sell.
    #cars #ferrari #458
    Index:
    00:00 - 1:15 Intro
    1:15 - 4:25 Interior Impressions
    4:25 - 9:44 Mechanical Impressions, Front Suspension, Chassis, Brakes and Aero
    9:44 - 15:16 Cooling, Underbody, Engine and Transmission
    15:16 - 23:28 Driving Impressions
    23:28 Final Thoughts
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  • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
    @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Před 3 lety +720

    I just turned 16 and I can’t afford a Pagani, so fine I guess I settle for the 458.

    • @zen4394
      @zen4394 Před 3 lety +51

      I understand the struggle bro 😪

    • @Lee-wz9gp
      @Lee-wz9gp Před 3 lety +56

      Bro...I wanted a private jet but I got a helicopter instead bro😔

    • @SamNRacing
      @SamNRacing Před 2 lety +15

      I was gonna get a Chiron but I just went with the civic

    • @funfun5656
      @funfun5656 Před 2 lety +12

      @@SamNRacing Lol rumor has it there's a pretty long waitlist these days for the Civic...you must be a man of affluence and importance.

    • @lieutenantdann8255
      @lieutenantdann8255 Před rokem

      Hows the 458 treating you?

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 Před 3 lety +1805

    This car will be the perfect teaching instrument for your 16 year old kids... Welcome to manhood and congratulations you're in debt for the rest of your life just like mom and dad.

  • @SuperDuperBDUB
    @SuperDuperBDUB Před 3 lety +80

    The 458 is clearly peak Ferrari. I always imagined a group of engineers standing around the 458 Speciale, standing around the car when they finally finished it, openly weeping because they knew that it was impossible to make a better car.

    • @holmieg3435
      @holmieg3435 Před rokem +4

      what do you think they did when they made the laferrari

    • @ora5799
      @ora5799 Před 6 měsíci +8

      ​@@holmieg3435key bumps of coacaine on a yacht

    • @Star_Taro
      @Star_Taro Před 6 měsíci +2

      Alexander the Great looked at the moon and wept, for he could not conquer it.

    • @Daniel-gi1cy
      @Daniel-gi1cy Před 4 měsíci

      Hated that they had to add a hybrid system ​@@holmieg3435

    • @royshavrick
      @royshavrick Před 2 měsíci

      @@holmieg3435that car is fucking incredible

  • @RealRandyButternubs
    @RealRandyButternubs Před 3 lety +326

    i was previously a ferrari technician and just wanted to add my 2 cents on some points.
    the interior issues mentioned are a HUGE problem and money pit, but are mostly related to temperature and the driver. the leather, due to it being natural and mostly untreated, is EXTREMELY prone to shrinkage from heat, ESPECIALLY the headliner which will more than likely begin to sag at some point due to the only thing holding it up being adhesive. the second largest interior issue is the soft touch material on the plastic surfaces. when the oil on your hand mixes with the animal fats used to make the soft touch, it begins to degrade and get goopy and nasty over time which practically every surface will require refinishing at some point. this was also a issue on previous models but is more prominent in the newer cars due to the larger amount of plastic surfaces.
    there are very large brake ducts in the rear on the bottom of the rear under tray, which i dont believe was mentioned.
    the engine fire issues were caused by adhesive used on the rear wheel wells to hold the heat insulation on, this was later fixed by riveting the insulation to the wheel wells and i believe the parts were recalled so i wouldnt consider it an issue or a reason to avoid a certain model year.
    the transmission issues were the insulation for the wire chaffing that was not installed was not exclusive to those model years and fails rather quickly, i would be more concerned about the trans leaking..which it will. again not a reason imo to avoid a specific year range of the car. also, the transmissions are not particularly fragile and can handle quite a bit of abuse.
    the fuel system issues mentioned were mainly related to evap pumps failing which effects the entire model range, and most notably the fuel filler neck cracking due to improper use while filling which is very common and effects all cars. its just more common in the rear engine models due to the angle of the filler neck.
    the exhaust flaps will open regardless of manettino position depend and on load and throttle position
    and lastly, an eventual issue that happens on all of them is the exhaust ports for the egr will clog with carbon and require the headers to be removed to clean
    great video guys, awesome car. my recommendation would be to buy a porsche for less and still beat a 458 on track ;)

    • @povertyspec9651
      @povertyspec9651 Před 2 lety +18

      How can my Nissan 370Z, which was parked outside in the Las Vegas sun for a year and a half, not have degrading issues with the interior soft touch surfaces? Nissan FTW

    • @alvaro1728
      @alvaro1728 Před 2 lety +31

      Buy a Porsche? Sure, if you care about practicality and reliability way more than beauty and excitement. Park a 458 next to a 911 and most people will just notice a Ferrari.

    • @RealRandyButternubs
      @RealRandyButternubs Před 2 lety +27

      @@alvaro1728 I'm not sure if you've ever been in a 911 or driven one but it definitely checks both of those boxes. Different strokes for different folks I guess, for some it's worth the added hassle of Ferrari ownership.

    • @naijaman1
      @naijaman1 Před rokem +18

      We want to 458 because of the emotional connection - the aural pleasures , no Porsche can provide that. I have owned a Panamera 4S which I tracked and done 6 laps of a 458 on a track day event- no comparison. 911’s don’t have a V8, so were never an option.

    • @alvaro1728
      @alvaro1728 Před rokem +4

      @@povertyspec9651 Not just Nissan. Basically any other car manufacturer does not suffer from the sticky interior issues Ferraris have for decades.

  • @kevins3821
    @kevins3821 Před 3 lety +710

    95% of teenagers: *broke af*
    Sav: *slaps roof* "this 6 figure car is perfect for you"

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 Před 3 lety +48

      We provide some sage advice 🤣

    • @THESLlCK
      @THESLlCK Před 3 lety

      @@jackholmes8105 no you dont

    • @MistaBrown420
      @MistaBrown420 Před 3 lety +14

      95% of teenagers? huh lmfao more like 99.999% of teenagers are broke af cause they dont have a job yet lol and their daddies money doesnt count as money of theirs.

    • @MrMortadella1
      @MrMortadella1 Před 3 lety +10

      Lol at these replies. Apparently COVID has also destroyed the sarcasm detector.

    • @lastwhtknight3002
      @lastwhtknight3002 Před 3 lety +2

      @Myname Isunavailable My high school in Danville Ca. Monte Vista. I only got a 67 Shelby. Plenty of kids w Ferraris.

  • @AlasTVRisHere
    @AlasTVRisHere Před 3 lety +452

    A SavageGeese notification on a Monday is like finding an onion ring in your fries.

  • @villLe
    @villLe Před 3 lety +446

    Enzo Ferrari allegedly said, "When you buy a Ferrari, you pay for the engine, and i will give the rest of the car free".
    Looking at the car in the video this still seems to hold true.

    • @attananightshadow
      @attananightshadow Před 3 lety +43

      that's the way supercars and sports cars should be. enzo had it right. the 458 is my favorite analog Ferrari.

    • @villLe
      @villLe Před 3 lety +36

      @@attananightshadow I prefer the F430, but yeah, the 458 was probably the last truly "alive" mid-engined Ferrari. A McLaren is more advanced with its carbon tub and cross-linked suspension and an F8 is faster than the 458, but neither seem as exciting.

    • @Kamukix
      @Kamukix Před 3 lety +4

      This is the way. 👌👌

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb Před 2 lety +5

      @@villLe of money was no object...F40 for the looks, 355 for the screaming engine, 458 for the last great modern mid engine ferrari that I would daily and a La ferrari for everything above (except daily driving)

    • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
      @GreenBlueWalkthrough Před 2 lety +1

      So Enzo wouldn't mind me buying a V8 twin turbo Ferrari and swaping it's power plant into a $27K mustang? Hmmm that would be a thing to do when I have money.

  • @macstone9719
    @macstone9719 Před 3 lety +230

    Ferrari makes its real money with hats, key chains and other crap. Not a joke.

    • @truantray
      @truantray Před 3 lety +28

      No, they make a fortune in F1 TV revenues, and selling FIATs for $300-$500,000.

    • @proof4469
      @proof4469 Před 3 lety +28

      @@pkdude5334 34% of Harley Davidson's sales in FY 2019 was in HD brand leather thongs and ball gags

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Před 3 lety +6

      @@proof4469 You forgot about the 8% that comes from their orange and black leather assless chaps.

  • @Ybeex
    @Ybeex Před 3 lety +65

    Drove one of these 2 Days straight in the Swiss Alps,.... life will never be the same.

    • @henkondemand
      @henkondemand Před 3 lety +12

      Lucky bastard

    • @MrHav1k
      @MrHav1k Před 3 lety +3

      How'd you manage that? Like actually?

  • @pofke23tv
    @pofke23tv Před 3 lety +687

    Nothing says Italia like shrinking and discoloring panels, self-deleting badges, creeks, rattles, and quality issues

    • @PITMGN7
      @PITMGN7 Před 3 lety +35

      lol my mom's fiat punto badge fell before 10 years of ownership

    • @jamest5149
      @jamest5149 Před 3 lety +48

      Replace ‘Italian with any US brand and your sentence still makes sense

    • @gameboyterrorysta6307
      @gameboyterrorysta6307 Před 3 lety +13

      @@PITMGN7 Punto is legendary for bad quality. On my friends' one sound system was so bad that we just ziptied wireless speaker inside to "fix" this issue. Rear door handle worked only from outside, so to get out you had to roll down the window (no power windows here), open door from outside, get out of the car, roll up the window, close the door.

    • @Kromer0
      @Kromer0 Před 3 lety +4

      Amazing. I wonder how the new electric fiat 500 will do. Less mechanical stuff to break

    • @attananightshadow
      @attananightshadow Před 3 lety +48

      @@jamest5149 yea, true, especially all those $10,000 Cavaliers and Sunfires; US branded cars that suffer those problems weren't $250,000+ when new.

  • @swishchee
    @swishchee Před 3 lety +175

    Wow, you actually recorded the sound of the car correctly. So many people stuff the microphone by the exhaust and it's this horrible clipping noise, even when mixed in. You got some decent microphones and managed to capture that induction and cabin noise, like what someone would actually be hearing. It reminds me of when I was tracking an F430, and so many vids miss out on that induction hiss that's heard, yet you also managed to capture the lower frequencies. This is the kind of video that the local Ferrari club owners would want to share with each other at their monthly Olive Garden meets.

    • @malthusg1115
      @malthusg1115 Před rokem +3

      Definitely. The sound of this car is fresh in my memory and they have captured it perfectly.

  • @jhobaugh45
    @jhobaugh45 Před 3 lety +62

    16:50 = Goose grimace. But that moment is why he works 7 days a week in constant anger mode. Thank you for what you do sir.

  • @snowleopard9749
    @snowleopard9749 Před 3 lety +319

    A bit disappointing that the speedometer goes dark past 60MPH ;-).

    • @ErectileSceptile
      @ErectileSceptile Před 3 lety +51

      Pretty weird feature for a car innit'?

    • @maxcactus7
      @maxcactus7 Před 3 lety +115

      It"s a speed control feature for teenagers. The speedometer and acceleration both cut out at 60 mph but the engine sounds keep revving and are piped in through the car's speakers. 😀

    • @snowleopard9749
      @snowleopard9749 Před 3 lety +16

      @@maxcactus7 Oh, I understand the video title now. Thanks!

    • @l00tur
      @l00tur Před 3 lety +4

      I was curious when they were gonna start blacking/blurring out the speedo with these runs.

    • @shinobi-zensei
      @shinobi-zensei Před 3 lety +5

      It’s those damn Italian quality perks...

  • @cmacd8879
    @cmacd8879 Před 3 lety +79

    There can be no more generous a gift to automotive enthusiasts, than lending your special car to the SavageGeese team.

  • @johntyson
    @johntyson Před 3 lety +157

    I may one day have enough money to buy a Ferrari, but I doubt I’ll ever be rich enough to own a Ferrari.

    • @marquaviouschester6947
      @marquaviouschester6947 Před 3 lety +6

      Unless I liberty walk it, I don't want a Ferrari. I'd rather get a gallardo spyder

    • @kenhoward3512
      @kenhoward3512 Před 3 lety +22

      Yes, there IS a distinction, isn't there - between having the money to buy it, and the commitment to spending a large yearly sum to insure it and keep it running properly and house it securely (while keeping your eye on the rearview mirror, to watch for suspicious characters following you home at night).

    • @crsantin
      @crsantin Před 3 lety +11

      Yup buying one and owning one are two entirely different realities

    • @R4M_Tommy
      @R4M_Tommy Před 3 lety +3

      @@marquaviouschester6947 LW is crap like the rebadged Audi R8 you would buy.

    • @marquaviouschester6947
      @marquaviouschester6947 Před 3 lety +2

      @@R4M_Tommy actually the gallardo was before the r8

  • @nfareview
    @nfareview Před 3 lety +322

    I can say this…I've owned a Ferrari cali30, McLaren 570S and a Lamborghini Huracan 580-2 and the car I want to stick with and grow old with, is WITHOUT A DOUBT the 458 Italia.

    • @jamievidd775
      @jamievidd775 Před 3 lety +47

      Don't remember anyone asking.

    • @zeroyon4562
      @zeroyon4562 Před 3 lety +100

      @@jamievidd775 ???

    • @calvin-
      @calvin- Před 3 lety +80

      @@jamievidd775 Wtf.

    • @georgehugh3455
      @georgehugh3455 Před 3 lety +76

      @@jamievidd775 It's a "Comment" - @NFA Review Channel told us he REALLY likes the 458...and has money coming out the Wazoo, and you told us you have a stick firmly embedded Up Yours

    • @yonly65
      @yonly65 Před 3 lety +6

      Agreed. A high water mark for its era, and our most frequently driven supercar.

  • @QuantumImperfections
    @QuantumImperfections Před 3 lety +111

    Jack's Voice. I want him to whisper car facts in my ear while I eat my morning toast.

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 Před 3 lety +52

      Just for you i will.

    • @apocalypse487
      @apocalypse487 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jackholmes8105 I'm gonna subscribe. Now you have 90 subscribers.

    • @craig.encinitas
      @craig.encinitas Před 3 lety +1

      Jack Singapore

    • @mrmojorisingii
      @mrmojorisingii Před 3 lety +5

      I can't believe he's only 24... He says he was 14 when this came out (in 2010)

    • @HoffmansHoopties
      @HoffmansHoopties Před 3 lety +1

      @@mrmojorisingii came here to say that as well. He's got a bright future doing something bad ass with his obvious work ethic and awesome speaking voice!

  • @TheBonsaiZone
    @TheBonsaiZone Před 3 lety +519

    I'm laughing out loud during the test drive, you're having too much fun!

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial Před 3 lety +13

      I know,they both looked gobsmacked lol
      Imagine if it was manual tho 🤪

    • @tundelawal2831
      @tundelawal2831 Před 3 lety +1

      This was literally me!

    • @alfistasubbie
      @alfistasubbie Před 3 lety +12

      Agreed, saw 90% of his videos and never ever saw him having this much fun. One ought to have that driving a Ferrari anyways.

    • @basmca1
      @basmca1 Před 3 lety +1

      I really wasn't expecting the nice bonsai man to reply to this.

    • @kdoesgaming5039
      @kdoesgaming5039 Před 3 lety +1

      You should see Jeremy Clarkson driving it, he’s having a blast

  • @autonewstv86
    @autonewstv86 Před 3 lety +300

    It's a gorgeous piece of art of automaking.
    Clean, elegant, eye pleasing design.

  • @PintoPopProductions
    @PintoPopProductions Před 3 lety +357

    Interior falls apart on a Ford at 100k miles: "This car is a piece of crap!"
    Interior falls apart on a $200k Ferrari at 20k miles: "This is fine."

    • @paulj9821
      @paulj9821 Před 3 lety +26

      It was a rental car originally before being sold to the current owner and is 8 years old.

    • @paulj9821
      @paulj9821 Před 3 lety +28

      @jonny j How so? You can't just make statements like that. I explained to you why is was in such a shitty condition, that and it's current owner also neglects it. If you actually worked around 458's like I do then you would understand that they don't usually fall apart like this.

    • @truantray
      @truantray Před 3 lety +25

      @@paulj9821 and it has only 19,000 miles. People would go insane if that happened to a Corolla.

    • @truantray
      @truantray Před 3 lety +64

      @@paulj9821 how does one "neglect" a dashboard and seats in 19,000 miles?? I've never seen that degradation in any of my cars. I get that douchebags have to defend the badge, but at what point do we cross the line from tifosi to suckers?

    • @JustinTipton
      @JustinTipton Před 3 lety +30

      @@paulj9821 I just had my headliner reglued. Turns out Ferrari used two sided tape on mine. The leather in the doors had to be replaced as well, as the foam separated from the leather. The "R" button has smeared away. Each time you touch the AC controls your fingerprint is left in it. This is on a garage kept 14 with < 10k miles. Point A to A car only. I adore the car. The interior quality is crap.

  • @wen87n
    @wen87n Před 3 lety +91

    Nice, This video uploaded just in time. I am cross shopping '96 Honda Accord and one of these.

    • @caferacer9768
      @caferacer9768 Před 3 lety +2

      🤣🤣

    • @johnwhodat8135
      @johnwhodat8135 Před 3 lety +2

      Hahahaha

    • @ArcoZakus
      @ArcoZakus Před 3 lety +4

      Chao,
      I am sure you were joking, but the 1990 Acura Integra GS I am thinking about selling might be just what you have in mind. ( 73,000 original miles, driven daily for 10 years and stored for 20 )

  • @DarrenPersad
    @DarrenPersad Před 3 lety +75

    When I saw the title, I immediately thought of Dad driving a Rapide, Mom in a G-Class, and little Tommy in his 458, wouldn’t that be a family lmao

    • @FurkanCemTurfanda
      @FurkanCemTurfanda Před 3 lety +21

      You just described New Jersey.

    • @sansfreedom1629
      @sansfreedom1629 Před 3 lety +4

      @@FurkanCemTurfanda Maybe if you're the Sopranos

    • @DarrenPersad
      @DarrenPersad Před 3 lety +1

      @@FurkanCemTurfanda I don't doubt it, I see some of the wealth floating around the state and it's pretty nuts. Even here in MA there's a fair bit of that.
      I guess we're not too far off with our eclectic assortment, but I'm definitely not in Ferrari or Lamborghini territory :'(

    • @hamsterama
      @hamsterama Před 3 lety +3

      There's a large section of the Midwestern suburb I live in, that is upper middle class to lower upper class (doctor and lawyer types). Anyway, it's not an uncommon sight to see little Johnny driving mommy and daddy's Porsche Macan or Mercedes GLS. Terrifies me that such inexperienced drivers are behind the wheel of that much power. Needless to say, I stay off the roads when school lets out.

    • @DarrenPersad
      @DarrenPersad Před 3 lety +1

      @@hamsterama For what it’s worth, I’m an intuitive learner - I learn by trial and error and doing things myself, so when I got my first vehicle, it has 4.0L of power going straight out to the rear wheels and I spent tons of time on country lanes and old back roads figuring out the nuances of the thing. When I got my first car shortly thereafter, it was equipped with Quattro AWD, which is based on a FWD architecture, and I had to spend a lot of time relearning vehicle dynamics of front versus rear and 4WD vs AWD. Both made considerable power for a learner, but I took the time to get a feel for the dynamics of both in all weather conditions and figured out the limits of my skills and of the cars.
      Years later, I’ve gone through vehicles with upwards of 400 HP and remained mostly safe on the road. I pulled my fair share of dumb stunts as a kid, but sometimes we just have to learn. And with all of the smart safety features and electronic safety systems in place, they’ll be a lot less likely to get themselves into dangerous situations. So long as they aren’t reliant on those systems, so long as they stay off their phones, and so long as they understand what’s at stake, many will be perfectly fine, even with immense power on tap!

  • @mohammadabbadi89
    @mohammadabbadi89 Před 3 lety +29

    "and I think Jack, the main thing to talk about the Ferrari is ......!!!" I love this part. I love that it's exactly that itch we all wanna itch ..u just wanna thrash a Ferrari once in your life and feel that inner animal/child inside that wants to feed on that raw power !
    Great video as always :)

    • @henkondemand
      @henkondemand Před 3 lety +2

      Agreed, it would be a true blessing to have that chance once in a lifetime.

  • @Dillon000
    @Dillon000 Před 3 lety +6

    When I was about 11 (2010) my Dad and I were at Prestige Miami. I’ll never forget seeing this young man, looked about 16 maybe 17 and his Dad was buying him his first car. I remember he chose a white 458 with black accents. Man was it gorgeous. I had been infatuated with the 458 since its release! Thankfully I never felt jealous, I actually felt really excited for him and that moment has motivated me more in life than I ever thought it would! Cheers!

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Před 3 lety +64

    Holy shit just realized the audio of these videos is superb.

  • @Twilight1FIN
    @Twilight1FIN Před 3 lety +95

    Never seen that guy get excited about anything. Until now.

  • @klwarhouse
    @klwarhouse Před 3 lety +21

    During the drive, the explanation of the experience sums it up perfectly. I use to own a 600hp 300zx, but had the chance to drive a F355. The Ferrari was turtle slow to my 300zx..... But holy crap so much fun to drive. Mainly due to the engine note, right behind your ear.

    • @jdsk8914
      @jdsk8914 Před rokem +1

      Glad you could drive the F355, beautiful car

  • @vincentmercuri8214
    @vincentmercuri8214 Před 3 lety +16

    I own a 2011 458 with 40,000 kms and it looks nothing like the one you have just reviewed. I‘ve looked after my car and even though I live in a harsh climate country the car is always garaged and the the interior still looks and smells new, the only problem is the rubber on some of the switch gear. I hate to say it but I would be very surprised if the mileage on that particular car is genuine looking at the condition of that car. I can also confirm that my car has given me very little problems and has been very reliable, my advice would be buy a well maintained and clean example and you will grin from ear to ear every time you take it for a drive. Finally a really enjoyable and well presented review.

  • @murfenator82
    @murfenator82 Před 3 lety +105

    I love how Mark just keeps stomping on it over and over. Nothing beats a good Ferrari!

  • @mayamanign
    @mayamanign Před 3 lety +1300

    When are you two going to get married?

    • @mothaybabonnam5632
      @mothaybabonnam5632 Před 3 lety +448

      Divorce from Turbowski not finalized yet

    • @tylerbetthauser7647
      @tylerbetthauser7647 Před 3 lety +45

      Are these guys in a homosexual relationship? I wondered, but never got a real answer.

    • @mayamanign
      @mayamanign Před 3 lety +149

      @@tylerbetthauser7647 Shaddup

    • @ptg_st3v3oh62
      @ptg_st3v3oh62 Před 3 lety +371

      @@tylerbetthauser7647 Yes they are and they're raising a flock of geese as part of a savagegeese-foster program. This channel was originally meant for videos about their foster geese, but since people kept asking about cars the geese got less and less content

    • @Hashbrowniepie
      @Hashbrowniepie Před 3 lety +3

      Going to?

  • @w3rdnama1
    @w3rdnama1 Před 3 lety +12

    Easily one of the best experiences I've ever had in my life. The 458 was the first supercar I've ever had the opportunity to drive. So lovely.

  • @digiovanniracing
    @digiovanniracing Před 3 lety +52

    "I think the main thing to talk about the Ferrari is:"
    *Maranello noises intensify*

  • @unignostik
    @unignostik Před 3 lety +151

    It’s so great to see Mark truly enjoy a car lol love that all it takes is a great motor/trans

  • @Jay-tc9on
    @Jay-tc9on Před 3 lety +84

    The best modern Ferrari ever. And one of the best modern cars ever.

    • @matthewgloberman3682
      @matthewgloberman3682 Před 3 lety +3

      Agreed

    • @MrMlbfan6
      @MrMlbfan6 Před 3 lety +1

      💯💯💯

    • @attananightshadow
      @attananightshadow Před 3 lety +3

      best analog ferrari by far.

    • @raupenimmersatt6906
      @raupenimmersatt6906 Před 3 lety +9

      @@attananightshadow The F430 with gated manual shifter and soft top still take the cake imo.
      Pure drivers car with the top down and manually shifting while going ape on mountain roads

    • @RS-bw6ow
      @RS-bw6ow Před 3 lety +2

      So true, the Speciale is my dream. It still has the most powerful n/a V8 in a serial production car

  • @mnejmantowicz
    @mnejmantowicz Před 3 lety +18

    Hands done you guys are the gold standard for reviews. I give no weight greater than to the two of you. Please, please keep up the great work. 👊🏻

  • @chinmaymahajan7778
    @chinmaymahajan7778 Před 3 lety +64

    Year 2030
    Tyler Hoover: Here's everything that is broken on the cheapest 458 in the country

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 Před 3 lety +2

      They'll be worth even more than they are now, lol. More likely, it'll be an F12, or maybe even an 812 Superfast.

    • @nexushexus4365
      @nexushexus4365 Před 3 lety +1

      Boo

    • @hitmanieves
      @hitmanieves Před 2 lety +3

      Well 2022 actually

  • @raist315
    @raist315 Před 3 lety +19

    It just sounds so amazing! As for reliability, a Ferrari buyer goes into it knowing it's not an Accord. It's going to cost a fortune to fix, but for them, the experience is worth it.

  • @lawszepie
    @lawszepie Před 3 lety +14

    Love it when you guys get to review exotic cars. Realistic and technical perspective is often missing in videos about exotic cars.

  • @mikeymonty
    @mikeymonty Před 3 lety +11

    That look on Jack's face when you took him for that drive... The silence says it all. I agree, what a drivetrain and an amazing Ferrari!

  • @dandsyfam1813
    @dandsyfam1813 Před 3 lety +19

    Best driving impressions section in savagegeese history.

  • @fogdood6868
    @fogdood6868 Před 3 lety +121

    13:50 How many times did you two have to rehearse "catastrophically expensive" to say it in unison?

  • @Chironex_Fleckeri
    @Chironex_Fleckeri Před 3 lety +19

    It's my favorite "regular" Ferrari of the last 20 years. Im so glad the owner let you guys do a full piece on this. I think you did a 458 quick review years ago, but you only had about an hour with it. I think the 458 is also the best looking Ferrari of the past 20 years, bar none.

  • @keithprice6581
    @keithprice6581 Před 3 lety +84

    $20k car - 'So many squeaks and rattles!'
    $200k car - 'I can accept some defects'

    • @rotorblade9508
      @rotorblade9508 Před 3 lety +1

      Because you can, anyway you can find much cheaper cars that are still nice to drive

    • @viktorpantazis4441
      @viktorpantazis4441 Před 3 lety +3

      Did you even watch the full review up to the final thoughts pal?

    • @tektkite7255
      @tektkite7255 Před 3 lety +1

      that interior looks like trash.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 Před 3 lety +3

      if you can afford a Ferrari you can afford a nice German car like bmw or benz for the daily drive a Ferrari is a rich man toy and the fact that its a toy it must be exciting it must look good it must be fast and most importantly it must be dramatic in its operation and sound everything else is secondary.

  • @malthusg1115
    @malthusg1115 Před rokem +3

    Drove one of these recently and everything they say is true. You feel everything. Its exilerating. The engine is a punchy, high revving masterpiece. Like they say its not refined or comfortable but it's addictive. Everytime you floor it and turn in to a corner you're reminded of why you love cars and driving. Incredible

  • @PITMGN7
    @PITMGN7 Před 3 lety +33

    I'm turning 18 that's the perfect car for me!
    except you can't afford these cars in Italy, even if you are rich you'll pay a lot of tax money just because you OWN it...
    Oh yeah and I couldn't afford it anyway lmao

  • @dwnshft
    @dwnshft Před 3 lety +5

    Excellent video, Mark! I just got out of a 458 Spyder for my 10,000 sub video and shared a lot of the same impressions you mentioned here. Last of the naturally aspirated V8s from Maranello and that F1 derived DCT was DOMINATING. The theater on something like this and the flaws you mentioned make it, in my eyes, better than pretty much every modern supercar. Glad you enjoyed your time with the 458!

  • @sennaha
    @sennaha Před 3 lety +6

    While 10 plus years old, it is expected to be dated. However, the 458 redefined modern day exotics. Driving position, ergonomics, tactile feel was amazing.

  • @432352
    @432352 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for creating IMHO the best content when it comes to reviewing cars. You guys answer the questions everyone didn't think of yet but knew they needed to. Keep it up!

  • @raiderify
    @raiderify Před 3 lety +106

    If I had to estimate how much I hated myself as a teenager, I'd say about $200,000
    Dealership, taxes, and shipping fees not included

  • @fabianherrmann6398
    @fabianherrmann6398 Před 3 lety +6

    You guys did this car justice. Being ridiculous at times fits the tone perfectly. The exterior shots were beautiful, the driving was mesmerizing on a fall day like that and the tech truly informative.

  • @maxluvshalo
    @maxluvshalo Před 3 lety +4

    I still remember one of the first times I saw one of these. My friends and I were on Highway 17 going from San Jose to Santa Cruz, around lunch time with mild traffic. Most people brake through the tight turns. All of a sudden the glorious crack of downshifting from a 458 becomes audible to everyone, and we look in the mirrors to see it weaving through traffic smoothly and accelerating towards us. We had just completed one of the tight turns and had a quarter mile straight in front of us, so the 458 was WOT through the end of the turn while passing us; it is one of our favorite memories. I look forward to the day I get to drive a 458.

  • @vee985
    @vee985 Před 3 lety +9

    You guys remind me of the two valets driving the Ferrari in Feriss Buellers day off.

  • @TheGeorunner
    @TheGeorunner Před 3 lety +25

    I'm nervous about deer jumping into the road in just about every one of your drive segments. This one had me standing up, shouting at the TV. And then a Deere appears 17:08.
    Not a combine btw

  • @rickkern5785
    @rickkern5785 Před 3 lety +8

    Thank you, I loved this review. I'm putting my coat on right now to take my mustang for a long drive. I will send you the bill if I get a ticket. Thank you again.

  • @thrillhousecycling7260
    @thrillhousecycling7260 Před 3 lety +4

    Outstanding video. At 23:03 Mark looks visibly melancholic-probably wondering to himself "when will I ever get to drive one of these, or anything this good, ever again?" Stellar work, as always!

  • @alexenns3203
    @alexenns3203 Před 3 lety +3

    You guys explained way we love cars so perfectly

  • @thewhitecarrot
    @thewhitecarrot Před 3 lety +205

    Interior Impressions: Why you buy a Porsche.

    • @KidSnatchhy
      @KidSnatchhy Před 3 lety +19

      Want a simplistic interior? Buy Ferrari! Want 50,000 buttons and blank switched? Buy Porsche!

    • @garrettblack1259
      @garrettblack1259 Před 3 lety +26

      @@KidSnatchhy Have.. have you seen the steering wheel in the 458?

    • @Aron-ru5zk
      @Aron-ru5zk Před 3 lety +19

      Joshua David the only reason it has a simplistic interior is because they put all the buttons on the steering wheel.

    • @Syncopia
      @Syncopia Před 3 lety +1

      But the fizz!

    • @THESLlCK
      @THESLlCK Před 3 lety +2

      @@Aron-ru5zk where they should be

  • @matts6551
    @matts6551 Před 3 lety +3

    I was working for Ferrari as a detailer when these were released, I have more then my fair share of cockpit time in them. Copiloted one with a tech at 130mph in a 1/4 mile blast, still can feel the acceleration, 9 years later.

  • @Mearcliff
    @Mearcliff Před 3 lety +1

    I love that you guys are from the midwest and showcase those corn field country roads. Cheers from WI.

  • @lucagattoni-celli1377
    @lucagattoni-celli1377 Před 3 lety

    Great micing! Thank you for sharing the experience in such an informed yet relatable way. It made me happy to see you so happy, Mark.

  • @Andrew-je8fm
    @Andrew-je8fm Před 3 lety +17

    I rented one of these during a vacation a couple years ago. I agree with everything you said when you’re out on open roads and can enjoy it. But I found it miserable for city driving. The accelerator is very sensitive and you’re constantly banging between first and second gear. I would love to drive a gt3, I think that would be my dream car after driving the 458 (which had been my dream car).

    • @toddinthemiddle
      @toddinthemiddle Před 11 měsíci +1

      a manual 992 GT3 is number one on my list because of the tranny. 458 italia is number two because it's the sexiest car ever made, but not a manual.

  • @jebidiahcarlyon3543
    @jebidiahcarlyon3543 Před 3 lety +12

    Thank you for this, better than coffee. That v-8 is like a wood-wind instrument - converted into a chainsaw.

  • @ItsSkyhawk
    @ItsSkyhawk Před 3 lety +1

    Incredible production quality! Amazing visuals and audio. You guys left a great first impression on me!

  • @jaredsmith8402
    @jaredsmith8402 Před 3 lety +1

    17:55. The “driving face”, absolutely perfect! 😂

  • @strebrr
    @strebrr Před 3 lety +7

    My favorite car of all time. I was happy enough to drive one in Maranello. Great experience. I didn't know they still have so big quality issues though. That's disappointing, but I can never afford one anyway 😁

  • @tmacfan4321
    @tmacfan4321 Před 3 lety +3

    I was lucky enough to have a family friend let me drive their 458 Spider a few years back - it's easily the highlight of my car experiences so far. The entire drivetrain is the pinnacle of NA sports cars.

  • @peterADL
    @peterADL Před 3 lety

    I love the shot at 15:22 - it is incredible what you can do with your cameras / drone. Great sound and video quality, as usual :-)

  • @jordonfan1283
    @jordonfan1283 Před 3 lety

    really glad you guys finally did a review of this, and not at all surprised that it's getting the highest praise. it's a phenomenal car

  • @ZPOLLAK
    @ZPOLLAK Před 3 lety +3

    Wanna get run over by a combine? The driving portion of this video is pure gold. Sounds SO good.

  • @spartapartypants
    @spartapartypants Před 3 lety +8

    "The main thing to talk about with the Ferrari is.." *sends it*
    😂😂😂

  • @stoneeh
    @stoneeh Před 3 lety

    Best car review channel on CZcams atm. Detailed technical info (including awesome suspension shots you won't get to see anywhere else), no chickenshit "I have 10km of empty road ahead of me but I'm still not going 1 km/h above the speedlimit" driving, ultra-honest (but also balanced) opinions, razor sharp image quality.. what more can you ask?

  • @sethyellin6587
    @sethyellin6587 Před 3 lety +1

    incredible review mr. goose. your content is undeniably one of the best for car youtube. and btw for me id take the nicest spec 458 italia or 458 speciale over the newer 488GTB or F8. just need my lotto $$$$ first. thanks for the incredible stuff for us during quarantine

  • @PatrickLindemann22
    @PatrickLindemann22 Před 3 lety +44

    How in the world do you manage to put these out just a couple days apart?

    • @Syncopia
      @Syncopia Před 3 lety +4

      Geese gotta get that bread. (birdseed?)

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 Před 3 lety +4

      Studio magic. These videos aren’t shot one after the other, but in batches

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  Před 3 lety +86

      I work 7 days a week and spend most my time in anger mode.

    • @slowgoat6089
      @slowgoat6089 Před 3 lety +11

      @@savagegeese - Wanna review my 99 corolla with 411k miles?!

    • @georgehugh3455
      @georgehugh3455 Před 3 lety +1

      @@slowgoat6089 Is that all the miles you want? Then Yes...

  • @ProbeGT2
    @ProbeGT2 Před 3 lety +3

    That face Jack makes when you floored it is going to be a Meme

  • @benwith1n528
    @benwith1n528 Před 3 lety

    A CZcams car video has never made my heart rate go up, until now. Great work shooting that particular portion.

  • @erranzimmermann1207
    @erranzimmermann1207 Před 3 lety +1

    Holy crap, I've seen a few car videos at this point, and, man o man, the engine sound on this - through video sound - is truly unique and amazing! You can really hear the "track-iness" of the shifts and revs. I was never really a fan of Ferrarri, but that engine induction is something else and makes me look at the car differently.

  • @YuriTereshyn
    @YuriTereshyn Před 3 lety +6

    Those driving impressions 😍😍 just sending’ it bud

  • @MarkRVillano
    @MarkRVillano Před 3 lety +33

    With a drivetrain is like an expensive Swiss Watch, and an interior like a Timex, what's not to like?

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 Před 3 lety +11

      😂 you should be responsible for Ferraris dealer ads

    • @Kizzle001
      @Kizzle001 Před 3 lety +6

      Haha that did looked trashed inside after 19k...

    • @mehdimohamed6291
      @mehdimohamed6291 Před 3 lety +10

      That’s unfair to timex.

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial Před 3 lety +2

      I like how the speedo dims during acceleration 😂

  • @iulian2548
    @iulian2548 Před 2 lety +1

    It is great to see 2 guys who are so different work so well together.
    Many thanks to the owner.
    Keep it up!

  • @Kamukix
    @Kamukix Před 3 lety +2

    What a perfect summation for how I feel. Ferrari was my #2 favorite car company (behind Mazda, yes I'm serious lol) up until the time when they stopped making manual cars. I still like some of the post-manual cars (599, California, 458, and LaFerrari cuz GORGEOUS)...but they haven't been 'FERRARI!' for me in quite some time. I mean absolutely no disrespect as I still finding them amazing, but I don't follow what they're making much these days and haven't driven a new one in quite a while and haven't tried to find a way to do so.
    They just don't have the same character as they did back then. They're hilariously faster, and incredibly more capable than the older cars, but they just don't have 'it' anymore for ME.
    I understand that kids/young people these days will grow up with this as their poster on the wall, but man I wish they could have seen the cars from the early to mid '00's and the older stuff before they decided to refine away all the edges.
    Ferrari was king for another reason besides speed. 👌
    Give me a manual F355 or F360 any day over any modern Ferrari and I'd gladly take the reliability and service issues along with the much much much slower speeds lol. I'd be grinning all the way 😎👌

  • @DashingnDining
    @DashingnDining Před 3 lety +3

    Fancy car with an engine as part of the consumables list. Can only dream.
    Gorgeous video and men discussing things in this video.

  • @Eden-NoEye
    @Eden-NoEye Před 3 lety +33

    Ugh I turned 20 last month now I feel too old to buy one of those ugh

    • @93mlo
      @93mlo Před 3 lety +5

      Wait till you hit 25 , it goes downhill after that

    • @southpaw117
      @southpaw117 Před 3 lety +1

      @@93mlo I felt like it was all over after turning 29 to the point where turning 30 didn't even phase me...

  • @CLouis
    @CLouis Před 3 lety

    Ok but how good is the production of this video? perfect exposure, sound and story bout this car. Props to the producers and editors!

  • @_VelociDad
    @_VelociDad Před 3 lety +1

    @savagegeese watching your channel is pure joy - like the first time my brother and I grabbed the keys to his first car and just drove down the road! Freedom and fun! His car is now a 4C Spider! 😊

  • @billtribble2904
    @billtribble2904 Před 3 lety +6

    I agree. The last of the true Ferraris. That's why I bought two. 🤗

  • @victorcal70vv
    @victorcal70vv Před 3 lety +3

    Best car for teenagers from 16 to 89 years old hehehehe Love the spec and the video production by the way!!

  • @Armen567
    @Armen567 Před 3 lety +1

    This was the best review purely based on sound. Just incredible.

  • @DharminderSingh
    @DharminderSingh Před 3 lety +1

    Just watching Mark's face during the drive is exactly why I watch savagegeese. Brilliant episode.

  • @vclue846
    @vclue846 Před 3 lety +3

    Ive driven a California T before, the steering has the same issue. Its so numb it is almost discouraging to take turns with. The acceleration is something else though

  • @brianmoore177
    @brianmoore177 Před 3 lety +8

    "And our next review will be the Koler combination sink / toilet unit in our Illinois State Police holding cell"

  • @Krushe
    @Krushe Před 3 lety +1

    How you don't have a million subscribers is a mystery. Great work again SG

  • @ArtVandelayOfficial
    @ArtVandelayOfficial Před 3 lety

    Holy crap you guys are killing it with the content output!!! 🏆

  • @ARentz07
    @ARentz07 Před 3 lety +17

    That sound is savage. It's not a surprise Mark is a fan given his... uh, savagery? Geesery?

  • @Viper3048
    @Viper3048 Před 3 lety +17

    I just love how fast and high these things rev. Pure ear porn.

  • @directreply350
    @directreply350 Před 3 lety

    I just realized this account has 425k subs great job wow! I remember joining at 77k and watching the 100k special. Wasn’t that long ago great work guys!

  • @arconcritter
    @arconcritter Před 3 lety

    The audio quality of this channels videos is just fantastic. Most car channels spend all their time and energy making the visuals perfect with lots of arty drone shots but use shit audio equipment and lose the plot completely on a huge part of what makes these cars desirable - the sound. The audio when you’re driving the shit out of that engine is just phenomenal. Great visuals always but your audio quality is top notch.

  • @dawnpoint
    @dawnpoint Před 3 lety +5

    I'm tellin' ya Goose, an hour-long album of just engine noise would sell like hot cakes.

  • @yass123
    @yass123 Před 3 lety +6

    Future classic!
    The 488 and F8 might out perform it, but the 458's soundtrack alone is worth it.

    • @huyra8019
      @huyra8019 Před 3 lety

      *laughs in lfa* sound dosent make cars better it just adds to the experience

    • @huyra8019
      @huyra8019 Před 3 lety

      @a gentleman in denial for me its just an addition. Like im perfectly fine with the way huayra sounds because it fits he character of the car perfectly and the driving experience is sublime. Yes I will miss the sounds of yesteryear but if they are sacrificed to keep ice's in cars for as long as possible im happy with anything.

  • @siteczek
    @siteczek Před 3 lety +1

    I'm wondering why this channel have only 500K subs. Why? Whyyy?????? Great work as always. Love Jack. Peace.

  • @SileDevil
    @SileDevil Před 3 měsíci

    your videos have the best sound from all youtube, love the 360 modena spyder vid aswell.