Farewell to First's Scrapped Buses
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2017
- Farewell to First's scrapped buses.
I created this video to show the waste of buses we more than often have in the UK. I was showing the importance of how the majority of them get left in scrapyards when, there was nothing massively wrong with them. They were tired, after several years of service but nonetheless they were far better than the majority of buses in smaller UK fleets.
My conclusion is not that First are a bad company: my conclusion is that many, many buses are withdrawn and scrapped very early by bus operators and I think people should be reminded that they do have to go somewhere.
PLEASE NOTE: I am aware I have used other people's photos in this video. None of my videos are monetized and I do not make any money off CZcams. All credit goes to the original photographers.
Disclaimer: I have nothing against First or any other companies. I just think it's sad how many buses go to waste. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
So sad, I know they’re machines but they’re machines I saw everyday when I was little and had a passion for buses...
That's very sad as small operators and community groups would find good uses for these buses. come on First, put them on sale, auctions are a good start.
You don't understand, they can't sell it because they don't make the parts for them to get fixed
They could make good mobile home
I loved those Dennis darts they were amazing in London I came on them buses everyday I loved them
Such a shame, i miss the times when we had Marshall Darts in London,
It really is depressing.
I was a driver in West Yorkshire and had the privilege of driving 30824 which was a royal cracking bus clouds of black smoke and was just as powerful off the mark as a Solo Optare with Cummings diesel power plant. On a late turn if I saw my bus was a nice warm, powerful Volvo royal i was happy!
I drove a bus for 12 years, usually a short Marshall or Plaxton bodied dart, it's funny they all have different characters and I always think it's so sad to see them scrapped, all the people that have ridden on them, all the different stories they could tell, I'm not sure why, with all the homeless, some could not be converted and put on a piece of land as temporary accommodation, better than sleeping rough every night and cheaper than building a hostel.
Thanks for the very insightful video about how old buses are carried on.
Actually, National Express Coventry immediately scraps them too when they are not needed, after standing in the garage out of service for a year.
Just like Y TOH Dennis Trident
@@Liberator23 I must admit, they are always put up for sale so anyone can buy them. Some are preserved, most are scrapped. I commented that when I had a form of grudge towards NX Coventry.
@@ignacyniedzwiedzki-k.1532 Well 3 NX Coventry Tridents left
@@Liberator23 3? All of the Y TOHs have left, and the 437Xs, 438Xs, most 439Xs, one 440X and others withdrawn, awaiting doom.
@@ignacyniedzwiedzki-k.1532 Well 2 NX Coventry Volvo B7TL (ALX400) withdrawn
In New Zealand, we still recycle/resell buses 40-50 years of age. So I don't know for the UK. But we also have fleet age requirements, and most company just bang their old fleet onto school fleet then another operator until unable to be repaired/outdated.
we still have those kind as our school busses in Falkirk.The pink and blue ones
I'm with everyone who agrees that scrapping a vehicle just because it's old is wrong! All classics and legendary buses and coaches from many years ago, just scrapped without a second thought and lying on a scrap heap to rot.The Dennis Darts, Volvo Ailsas, MAN ALX 300/200s, Leyland Olympians and Titans etc etc. rotting whereas a sensible alternative would be to encourage private or local community ownership! Us Bus Nuts and Lovers could take those darling gems away from the scrapheap and give them a new lease of life and usage. Do them up, get them fixed and give them all the TLC they deserve! What a waste and it breaks my heart to see them there. Agree? I also suspect the scrapyards aren't doing much scrapping because you always see more and more vehicles added onto the already ageing pile.
I'll say one thing: sadly not every bus can enter preservation, and a bus has to come to end of it's life at some point. The point I was making is that many of these 'old buses' are far better than the newer ones, and had many years ahead of their lives. Some of the darts I go on are still top condition, although others that have not been maintained sadly are starting to rot already
modelbuses98 Totally agree with you, which is what I was meaning.
@@StagecoachMANALX300well some OmniLinks in my place are scrapped but it came in 2007!
Believe it or not, I’ve been on the R220GFS as late as 2018/19. Can’t remember the years exactly but I clearly remember being so shocked to see the buses taking me home when they were driving alongside the newest models. It wasn’t even a one off I actually went on them twice then never saw them again. Brought back memories because it’d been 8 or so years since I saw or even thought about that bus. So difficult to believe after watching this video but I hope someone else shares this experience.
I reckon they scrap them in order to prevent smaller operators buying them up to use in their fleets.
Btw the dart was in Edinburgh not glasgow
I have school in baglan Wales UK and I see first buses everywhere so lucky me
First did sell their buses at one point, and sold a bus to someone in the Bristol area for preservation I believe. The person who bought the bus off first, sold it to a bus company, so First stopped selling their buses, apart from scrapping
The last marshalls got withdrawn in 2015 with Tower Transit for the 339. I remember when marshalls were everywhere across the streets! And you're right! Nothing wrong at all with them. No fires, no broken parts just a beautiful bus scrapped because it was old :/ #PowerOfAllison
Believe many went to Go-Coach.
There are loads of Marshall capitals around
Come to Glasgow loads of Marshall darts are driving on the m11 and m60
I saw a Marshall on tower transit and it was a training bus
VolvoTrident wrong there are still marshalls on 193 essex county estate to romford queens hospital
They could have been sold on, surely or do what a few groups have done here and converted old buses into accommodation for homeless people, there's a double decker near me that's been fitted out as a hot food and drink bar , I think they do a fairly good trade!
I love First Bus but their disposal of old buses is the problem I have with them, my favourite type of bus is the B7L (Eclipse Metro) and due to First's standard of scrapping old buses, there are hardly any left, same with the B10BLEs. RIP to all buses scrapped by First 😢
Leaving aside the viability of public transport, post covid19, surplus vehicles are probably scrapped to prevent them being run by potential competitiors. Though many of these poor old buses simly don't comply with current regs vz emissions, accessibility etc and would not be worth the cost of upgrading them.
It IS a wicked waste of resources but that's the sort of society we live in.
Where I live there was some lovely and nippy old buses driving around and both drivers and passengers loved them like I can still remember the old open top buses with bench seat with leather and metal handles on the seat in front and my uncle used to drive a First bus and whenever I went on his bus he'd let me sit in the drivers seat and I loved it
The 1st and 2nd bus r still about lol
First could have modified the marshalls so they could drive in areas in the UK other than london.
P.S they have wright streetlites and plaxton presidents in essex, and alot of the plaxton presidents are quite old, too. going to be 30 in 2020-2025
I hear they are called streetSHITES in South Yorkshire.
2024 and 95% of the First Group's Plaxton Presidents have been scrapped 😞
First travel is the last at saving buses
Reminds of the Leyland Nationals of the 70's. Where'd they all go ¿?
Actually the 1st one you showed it was replaced by the new routemaster
First had a policy of not selling their buses once they had finished with it. I'm not sure if that's still the case......
This is also a thing here in Singapore. Our old hispano carocerra buses are gone.
Is it just me or has the tune in this video changed from what is was orignally?
We still have ALX400s in bognor.
every money I get the 56 to my school every morning they could have withdrawn them to another first Bus company or a Stagecoach Bus Company because then he starts I have tennis tots Aldeburgh in my country or city whatever but still it is still sad to see those buses which were beasts obese go for ruins at the stupid scrapyard in London um what is the freaking point of Wrecking my boss for no reason
Sad if Gemini and alx400 goes and Enviro goes Il be da
I was sad to see this video eveni dont drive i travel on but not those its bloody terrible seeing that when i saw royale but now i see a school one now but dont do any more😢😮
Stagecoach brought a bunch of firsts pointers
I always had the highest admiration for the old buses, no admiration for new ones.
SBS/SBS Transit :
998Y & 999U sold to Australia
9844Z sold to HK Private Collector
69XXX converted to Red Bus
Leyland/Volvo Olympian converted to Preschool Bus
8031T converted to Sentosa MAN Bus
What was the name of the piece of music at the beginning of the video?😊
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be
A bendy bus could’ve went to a school trip company and even be converted to like euro 6 or something
So sad
I would like to annouce some good news. That after almost 10 years of doing nothing except sitting on top of other buses in a scrapyard, one of these buses may return to roads.
I have recently been in contact with the Dudley scrapyard, where mentioned Marshal-Bodied Dennis Dart LN51DWX lays dormant, and have expressed intrest in buying it.
Yes, I'm aware that it hasn't moved an inch in nearly 10 years and yes, I'm also aware that the bus itself is either just under or just over 20 years old. But I was always a fan of Marshall Darts, And if my purchase is succsesful, not only would it mean the bus would be brought back into service in after almost 10 years of decomission, it would be the First (No Pun Intended) sighting of a First London bus in roughly the same amount of time. They stopped operating a year or two after the Dart was withdrawn.
I would love to recomission this bus so please wish me the best of luck in my purchase
That’s awesome man! Of course all the best of luck and well done for taking initiative!
I’m happy to announce that after rigorous trial and error, the now 22 year old bus was lifted from the scrapyard and at the start of this week took its first journey in well over a decade at the start of this week (Monday 14th August 2023) as a test run, and as of today (Saturday 19th), has officially entered preservation status, where it’s primary purpose will be for my own private use, and it may also become available for private hire and/or heritage events in the near future. Sadly though, it can never return to public service, this is partially due to the buses age, and primarily due to the fact that I flat out refuse to pay more than what I did for the bus in general for somebody to come along, strip out the original engine and install one that complies with ULEZ regulations.
What also occurred to me during the bus’s test journey is that it last operated on Route 309, which now mainly uses Optare Solo’s, most of which are ever so slightly older than LN51, talk about a downgrade 🙄
right now first is in trouble money wise its totally daft not to sell on at least they get some thing back of them rather than fanny adams
This practice is wrong on so many levels, shame on first.
First bus buses are all scrap if in service or not. known to a lot in the industry as WORSTBUS. IM
3:04 they dumped those cuz they where catching fire well that's what I heard
Yeah
I think my enviro 200s are gone, now in Kettering, and rugby, or Leamington
I live in canning town and i dknt see 309 anymore i use 474 to replace it
alot of people call these buses unappetising and put pressure on companies to scrap them thats the sad thing.
i loved those olympains
First Essex only has like 3 plaxton pointer 2s left
I think that you'll find that by the time First has finished with any vehicle, it's totally shot, and incapable of any further service. You haven't noticed they sweat their assets to destruction? I was unfortunate enough to work for this bunch of morally bankrupt carpetbaggers.
First eastern has a bus from 2002 which I get on daily and it still works fine
What number plate?
@@agamer2024. LR02 LXX
I have a ton of ideas of what they could have done with those buses, I dare some one do go and try that Alexander royal bus and see if it still runs
If I had a chance to save one I would
I know. Its sad.😔😔
its just like how tower transit are wasting there 5 year old geminis and e200s
the same is happening with stagecoach London alor our old buses get scrap for no reason
At least my local company have taken on two of Tower Transit's geminis to be used for many years to come (We're still using 2001 geminis too)
Some buses have poor maintenance
Its no wonder First are in trouble money wise then.
I went on most of these buses when I was a little kid 😭😭😭😭😭😭😢
I get the 56 to
Where is the first scrap yard ?
It didn't deserve this
Omg why is first glasgow scrapping the good old buses, and leaving us with the boring new ones
Scrapped as could sell them off did not meet the new European emission standards for new heavy-duty diesel engines seen 3 year old lorrys and buses scrapped as can not sell them
sad
Yeah they couldve just simply given the Alexander Royale to Brightbus.com if they were still around!
First needs to sell their old buses instead of scrap them
😥😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
theese will soon be are wonderful alx400s :(
At least Cambridge Bus and Coach have W942 ULL so that one is not going to scrap for a while
Already is, lots of ALX400s have been scrapped, London now have no AVLs, few VLAs and no non preserved euro 2 tridents, yet alone, any euro 2 vehicles all together, it’s just soooo wasteful
I never really liked the alx 400s
and they are now
Every bus comp sells there retire units
Any London bus comp London: er you sure about that
:(
Don’t watch video it’s too sad 😭😭😭
You have to understand, they can't get the parts for them to repair.
I can buy parts for my fifty year old motorcycle
First bus are a disgusting company. Vile bus drivers and vile morals. Boycott first bus.
Convert them into permanently parked community hubs. Youth, somewhere for the homeless to sleep, food stalls, etc
Some can get turned into mobile homes
er okay
First always scrap buses 😭
I hate first now, they are just idiots for scrapping these.. 😠
AE86 INITIAL D stagecoach London is much better then the crap first London.
321 Bus route you got a point, I said I hate them, I prefer stagecoach too, and metro line are all right too
AE86 INITIAL D Yeah
321 Bus route first was always crap, especially with their darts, they never started right, or they broke down or even overheated, and no thanks to fucking mechanics trying to fix it.
First Eastern counties is rubbish and they get rid of them like recently 900 buses has been withdrawn from the fleet and 1 YES 1was sold rest were scrapped in 2021 first Eastern counties scrapped most of there fleet in a while that's why most routes are every 30 mins to 1 hour from every 5,10,15 and 30 mins it is sad to see it plus alot of there drivers are gloomy and always are late but not all drivers but most are like that I do want to say some were dda complaints
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Thats another reason Firstgroup are bad
First are so wasteful
Yawn
Can't read your text, it doesn't stand out.